The Daily Zeitgeist - Y’all Not Horny For BIDENOMICS?! Shark Attack Victim Blaming 08.09.23

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

In episode 1528, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, director, and stand-up comedian, Marcella Arguello, to discuss... HEY F**K FACE GET HORNY FOR BIDENOMICS!!! AI Starting to Look Like a Bubble? Als...o Starting to Look Like It Has a Soul? New Pill is Bad News… For Cancer! The News Really Needs To Stop Hyping Shark “Attacks” and more! HEY F**K FACE GET HORNY FOR BIDENOMICS!!! AI Starting to Look Like a Bubble? Also Starting to Look Like It Has a Soul? This Book of Poetry Written by AI Should Scare the Hell Out of You New Pill is Bad News… For Cancer! 'Cancer-killing pill' that appears to 'annihilate' solid tumours is now being tested on humans The News Really Needs To Stop Hyping Shark “Attacks” Junkie ‘Cocaine Sharks’ are strung out and ‘tweaked’ in Florida: expert Girl attacked twice by shark: ‘I could see blood dripping down her leg’ Is your ‘yum-yum’ swimwear attracting hungry sharks? Rash of shark attacks reported in New York over July 4 weekend Don’t Call Them ‘Shark Attacks,’ Scientists Say New York’s shark-infested waters are a good thing. Yes, really. New York to deploy shark-monitoring drones to beaches following reported attacks How the Media Stokes Needless Fears About Sharks Feeding frenzy: public accuse the media of deliberately fuelling shark fear Shark Week Hosted by Jason Momoa Results in Highest Rating in Years Discovery Channel’s ‘Shark Week’ Is Packed With Misinformation and Junk Science LISTEN: Tell Me by RahillSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 299, episode 2 of Dirt Daily Psycho. Stay production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, August 9 9th 2023 oh baby i'm doing that did not maniacal laugh because my thing was not loading it's national rice pudding day national book lovers day international day of the uh wait let me get this right because we've got a shout out indigenous people international day of the world's indigenous people national passion fruit day oh shout out indigenous people. International Day of the World's Indigenous People. National Passion Fruit Day. Oh, shout out Passion Fruit.
Starting point is 00:02:07 International Coworking Day. World Calligraphy Day. World Veep or National Veep Day. Whatever that is. Not shouting out Mike Pence. But anyway, rice pudding though, you know. Does it spell like Veep, like V-E-E-P? Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And it ain't the HBO show. Probably for the office. Speaking of National Book Day, a private equity company just bought Simon & Schuster. Oh, wow. We'll see what that does for books. Yeah, it'll be good. It'll just be missing pages.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah, they're like, no one reads the fucking back... I used to say, I don't finish books. So just print three quarters of it yeah that's the fucking private equity guys we actually looked at like some stats and like the number of pages read like really declines there's a long tail of course but yeah we could really save money by just 60 of the books don't have material costs 100 pages yeah anyways my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Play that plumper music, white boy. Play that pumper music right.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Talk coal gas study and deny wet pants pee stains till you die. That is courtesy of La Caroni. Getting it all in there on the Discord. I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray. In honor of the Alabama Montgomery Doc Raw, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Michael B. Phelps, a.k.a. Scuba Gooding Jr., a.k.a. Aquamane, a.k.a. Snoop Doggy Paddle Dog, a.k.a. Samuel L. Jack Swim. SaddleDog, a.k.a. Samuel L. Jackswim. Shout out to TV on Discord for aggregating all of those fucking nicknames of the man who hopped in the water in that video.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Oh, man. What a time. What a time. I think I picked the worst fight video to be like, ah, fight videos. Enough. Enough with the fight videos. I know. When you said that, because your overall take. I still haven't watched it.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Now I need to watch that shit. Yeah, because when you know it's a black dock worker who told these white people to move their boat so the city boat could come in to dock, and they said, fuck out of here, and he moved the boat for them, and they decided to put hands on him, you're like, oh, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Like, you've sent the flares up and the smoke is incoming yeah and it arrived by air and by sea all right i'll watch it right after we record miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests one of your favorite guests writer actor one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it absolutely and you can catch her tonight at women crush wed Wednesdays at the Ford Theater in Los Angeles. She has a special on Max that is just
Starting point is 00:04:51 so good. It's called Bitch Grawl. And she is called Marcella Arguello! Marcella! And here I am to save the day! Yes. Hello, gentlemen. How are you? What's good, Marcella? I really thought you guys were going to talk about the day. Yes. Hello, gentlemen. Hello. How are you? Looks good, Marcella. I really thought you guys were going to talk about the video. I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I can't wait to hear what Jack has to say about this shit. I want to hear him throw his people under the bus. That's my favorite. Yeah. At first, I thought you had seen it yesterday. I don't like it. Come on. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:05:24 It's really hard to watch. It's really hard to watch. It's really hard to watch. That lady's a mom probably. I love that they're also sunburned as they're getting whooped. It's really beautiful. It's really true. I am like really excited. I also saw people,
Starting point is 00:05:37 yeah, I also saw people pointing out like, and this is why white people are demanding that they have guns at all times. Right. Because they know. They don't want a fair one. They would fucking lose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You don't want to. Immediately. They don't want a fair one. It's wild too. You never want to. Just to see like all. Have you seen that people were already like the reenactments people are doing at their pools? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:05:58 What a blessing to the internet. Like I'm so glad X hasn't completely destroyed everything that was beautiful about twitter yeah because it's like i i've been like frustrated about keeping twitter on my phone and i'm like but i have all these fucking shows to promote so i'm like once this show's done i'm gonna fucking you know take twitter off my phone but this feels like the i was like you know what if i go out this week this is a beautiful way to go out the cop versus the slide in Boston? Oh my God. I did catch that one.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I also did not care for it. I thought that was not very... I was worried about his safety. I get it. I respect that. Enough slide videos. Enough of these dang fight videos. I mean, we're getting whooped out here. Did you...
Starting point is 00:06:42 There's slides or angry mobs of people who are sticking up for their people. It's wild, man. Oh, man. And the energy has shifted in our society. I saw a black hotel employee say something kind of wild to an older white person because they were like all frustrated, complaining about how the breakfast juices weren't marked. Like they weren't, they didn't say what they were. And he was like, and the black hotel employee is like, sir, yes, we are a brand new hotel, but someone stole our signs.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'm sorry if you don't know the difference between orange juice, cranberry juice, and apple juice. And I was like, brr, brr, brr. They had time today. Wow. August 6th changed the damn world. Like tell them, tell them the damn world. Tell them. Tell them.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Tell them. Tell them. It was beautiful. I was like, yeah, black people don't. That's it. It's done. The energy has shifted. The air is different.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Interactions are so different now. And I love it. Good. It is wild. Yeah, Hannah Nicole Jones on her Twitter, she was commenting on the video. And she's like, make no mistake about Montgomeryabama and its place in the slave trade and american slavery and how you have a majority black state that's only getting up their first black mayor like like uh recently you know and saying like there's a lot more energy swirling around that video than merely it just being like
Starting point is 00:08:01 a random doc you know and and yeah exactly that doc is where the slaves came in like i mean come on like you you got white people attacking one solo black gentleman and also he's not like young and like buff and like physically looking like he's gonna fucking fuck them up in that moment like it's to me it really comes out of nowhere that they attack him you know like you know he looks like he's just like i gotta do my fucking job i job. I don't want to fuck, but also, you guys need to, I need to do my fucking job. Right, right, right. That's like his whole energy.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Just, I need to do my fucking job. That's his energy. For real. Just wants to fucking do his job. He's irritated. He's like, these people again? For real. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:08:36 That's his energy. So it's wild. Anyways, Jack, you need to watch it. I need to watch it. All right. I'll watch it on the commercial break. How long is it? Jack, you gotta, man, dude, watch it, watch it after we record. Okay. How long is it? Jack, you got it. Man, dude, watch it.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Watch it after we record. Okay. You're going to want to. There's also so many funny replies that you actually, you don't just watch it. Yeah, you got to watch it with the commentary track on. But before you can think about it, you got to watch all the replies and see how fucking, it's beautiful. It's too beautiful.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah. All right. And also, I'm going to say Montgomery, majority black city. Also, how can you call yourself the daily zeitgeist you don't watch the most popular fight video on the fucking planet he's like it's probably just a dumb racist attack video probably from the screen grab you saw
Starting point is 00:09:14 but see that's where you need to follow more black people or black blogs where they're like y'all an act in five it has arrived it's beautiful there's so many different angles oh my god it's this and for a lot of people like it's violence i'm like you have to understand that there is a history of black people being attacked without any kind of restraint and no
Starting point is 00:09:35 consequence following so when people of color especially black people see videos like this it is exciting yeah yeah it is healing and then did you see that tom segura clip um where he was talking about uh this is an old clip of his from one of his netflix specials and he breaks down how white guys have no loyalty to each other but like how black people in other races do and he basically describes a scene that he saw at a park where one white guy uses the word the n-word and then you know he proceeds to get attacked by two black guys who don't even know each other and he's like basically like oh you're gonna get murdered i'm not helping you and like this bit is great it's really funny um and it's an old bit and he like obviously is recirculating it right
Starting point is 00:10:19 now to like be like white people have no loyalty to each other and he's like it's beautiful that other races do but we don't yeah but also, you don't need to say it in that context. He's like, come on, whites! Like, we gotta get together now. Like, we gotta have each other's backs. He didn't say it like that! He didn't say it like that! Because doesn't he start it off talking about, unless you got a tiki torch,
Starting point is 00:10:37 that y'all stick together? That's how you know that those are the ones that are sticking together. But for the majority of white guys, they do not stick together. They're not wearing their khaki with polo shirt and mask outfit, screaming, you know, so-and-so ain't going to do this. It's a funny bit. It's a funny bit. Back when he was still, like, actually writing funny bits. Is he okay?
Starting point is 00:10:56 I always worry about him and Burt Kreischer. I mean, you know, I think one of them is going to have a heart attack soon enough. Burt Kreischer looks like he is not doing well. From the random clips i've seen the last three months i'm like oh sir hope you yeah he looks like he's gonna have a heart attack soon for sure yeah kind of all right anyway sorry a bit of a bummer all right marcella we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about from the news we're going to talk about the the push to get
Starting point is 00:11:25 everybody horny for the economy under biden talk about the economy under biden as it relates to ai and you know the washington post published this article where they were like this whole craze is based on a single lie like a single just misunderstanding of some stats that that happened and then also like simon rich that humorist is like really worried about ai and like published this book of poetry so we'll talk about that uh we'll talk about a new pill that is bad news for cancer fuck yeah and uh why we need to stop hyping shark attacks, all of that, plenty more. But first, Marcella, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Okay, so my search history from today is
Starting point is 00:12:14 I Googled inventor of the wheelchair, and his name is Stefan, or probably Steven, Farfler. And I Googled him because i wanted to write an inappropriate joke about how i believe that the inventor of the wheelchair just really wanted some pussy like that's how the wheelchair was invented and i tweeted it out and then i was like oh let me actually before i tweeted out i should say i looked up who invented the wheelchair because i was like man i already know somebody's gonna be mad everybody the thing about comedy and writing jokes is that you can see now how people are going to be offended yeah and i was like oh i
Starting point is 00:12:53 gotta be prepared for someone being like how do you know a man invented the wheelchair and it's like oh i don't i don't think that the person who's credited for inventing the wheelchair is the person who invented the wheelchair you know i'm sure there was like some fucking ancient indigenous motherfucker who invented that shit that'll never get the credit for it that's the truth of the matter but i like you always have to be prepared and i hate that so that's a really good way to know me i fucking hate that our crowds have gotten so like pc that everything has to be worded so perfectly and it's like that's not how comedy works guys, it's just me making a fucking joke about how thirsty men are.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And people are like, that's not historically. It's like, can you focus on like some actual problematic comedy? Don't come at me for like presuming the gender or identity of the person who made the wheelchair because I'm trying to make you laugh by saying wheelchair was invented by a horny guy. That's theation and y'all not fucking with that exactly so that's a little about me look where i'm at in my comedy right i laughed from the setup the setup made me laugh so i'm fucking with it i'm on board it's is your presumption that the inventor needed a wheelchair
Starting point is 00:14:01 to get to the pussy or that the inventor was just trying to. OK, yeah. Yeah. Like he was at home. He's like, man, that bitch Susie told me I could get it if I could just get to her house. But my legs don't work. How the fuck do I get this dick wet? And I can't have my dad carry me again.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Exactly. He's sick of that shit. All that rubble that he has to fucking drag me through. Like, yo, that's desperation. That's innovation via desperation. Which we all know is how the best shit is invented. Oh, yeah. Hornyness and desperation.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Yeah. 100%. Those are like the two pillars of pure creation. Poppenheimer taught us anything. Yeah. Pussy Poppenheimer. I need to write that down. I am become death. Yeah.heimer taught us anything. Pussy Poppenheimer. I need to write that down. I am become death. Destroyer of worlds.
Starting point is 00:14:50 He said as he had sex for the first time. Jack, did you get enough sleep last night? Why? You seem really like you don't want to be here with me tonight. Am I lagging? I think you're lacking
Starting point is 00:15:05 is the real word. She wants you a little bit brighter, Jack. She's taking it personal. I need you, Jack. I need you. I can't be mean to you when you seem a little down in the dumps. What? Are you tired? Get a good night's sleep? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Did you have a nice breakfast? What did you have for breakfast, Jack? Three eggs and an English muffin oh damn that's pretty good yeah that's good damn that's a man i like that we both are like oh shit you get a workout out. I was trying to loosen you up, Jack. Okay. I'm confused because I was in the middle of a sentence. I don't give a fuck what you're in the middle of.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I'll fucking ask about how you're doing anytime I fucking want to. It was wild because, Marcella, you were lagging on the call. So when Jack started talking, it seemed like you had nothing to say. And then you started like, are you okay, Jack? and then you said like are you okay jack like i'm so confused i love it oh shit marcella what is something you think is overrated okay wait my overrated underrated are actually like like they work together they're they're views they exist because of the other so you know i'm on a double strike with the wga and sag that's
Starting point is 00:16:32 where my head is at but i knew that when the strike happens that all of my comedian friends who've gotten a lot of success in acting and writing um we're gonna do stand-up again and i fucking love it oh yeah i'm so glad like there's a couple i wish would just fucking give up because they should have always given up but there's some people that i'm like so thankful that they're getting back into the stand-up shit and it's cool but it's like underrated overrated where i'm like it is overrated to be a successful actor like it's underrated to be like a comedian who like has shit to say every night and wants to be on stage like spreading their gospel and you know so i'm so that's my
Starting point is 00:17:11 underrated overrated where i'm like i wish more people were i wish i should say this i wish comedy stand-up comedy was rewarded more and so that people didn't like just give it up just because they're like well fucking the money's in acting the money's in writing which it is but i wish stand-up was a little more respected so that comedians who are so fucking good didn't have to you know give up doing it to fucking have you know pay the rent yeah because it's like i think that's for i see the difference right because like when you're a stand-up you're up there telling your jokes from your perspective your story but then they're like hey man you want to use that talent and service of like some other shit and we'll get you paid.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Then like, yeah, you got to put your own creativity. I mean, you offer that in a writer's room and shit like that. But sure, it's not going to be the same. Like it's not not not too many head writers and be like, yeah, do your thing. And we're just going to incorporate that in the show. They're like, dial that shit back and give me a proper B storyline. Exactly. Exactly. going to incorporate that in the show they're like dial that shit back and give me a proper b storyline exactly exactly and that's what's interesting too is that now we've gotten to the point where acting and writing is not as rewarded which is why everybody's like wait a minute bitch
Starting point is 00:18:14 i could be doing stand-up and make the same amount of money as like being a fucking actor and streaming that's wild you know oh it is does it do you kind of like not mourn but when you see somebody like oh okay they got that gig you're kind of like i'm not i'm gonna see you less at night there they go yeah yeah that has been my that's been that's been more real in the last five years too because so many of my friends have really like focused on acting or writing or whatever and i'm like yeah and i remember laurie kilmartin she was my mentor for many many years before i took my first writing job and um and she one of her things was like try to avoid getting into a writer's room she's like because that money is very addictive that money is so addictive and i was like oh because she was like you're really good at stand-up and
Starting point is 00:18:58 you love stand-up she's like struggle for as long as you can that's what basically the advice she gave me like struggle because she also knew that once that if you have a kid or you get married or some shit, your whole shit changes. And your responsibilities change. But you can live grimy or on a couch or couch surf or hotel surf or whatever. Just solo dolo type shit. Right. And she was right. Because I remember being like, when she told me that, I was like literally watching my friends all around me
Starting point is 00:19:25 just pursue writing and acting more because the money was better. But now it's not better. So they're coming back to stand up, which is great. I love it. Who are your homies that are coming back to the stage? Who are you most excited for?
Starting point is 00:19:36 Nico Santos. Okay. He was the star in Superstore. He did Crazy Rich Asians. And he's so funny. And when he's like fucking zeroed in oh my god that motherfucker can talk some shit and does voices and
Starting point is 00:19:49 can sing like he's so funny he's really and a lot of people don't know him as a stand-up but he's great people should people should yeah I think I just know him from Crazy Rich Asians yeah yeah a lot of people only know him as an actor yeah yeah happiness for beginners but Nico will be at the Irvine Improv
Starting point is 00:20:06 headlining on August 31st and he has some very great comedians opening for him. Okay, okay, okay. I like that. Irvine, you've been warned. Also, I guess, are we allowed to talk about things that are on Netflix? Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Justin, maybe cut it. I didn't say what it was. I did. I fucked up. I came in and was like, it's called happiness for beginners. I need that. You can say it. Okay, I can.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Because you're not. Yeah. You can say it. You're not. All right. Jack, you're a lifelong scab, have you said on this show? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Come on. I'm team scab for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jack and I are about to, we're about to be the new stars of Abbott Elementary. We're heading down to the studio. Have you not heard? Shit. They were looking for people. I love yeah, yeah. Jack and I are about to, we're about to be the new stars of Abbott Elementary. We're heading down to the studio. Have you not heard? They were looking for people.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I love it. Yeah, great, great, great. It's going to be really mediocre. I was going to say, this shit's going to be fucking terrible, but it's a check. Yeah. I can't wait for Abbott Elementary to get canceled.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Oh, no. You know what's wild, though, about that point, too, about those writers' room gigs? The same thing with late-night writers' rooms. Those, they have that's like such a golden handcuff situation for a creative because the money is non-stop year round and you get these long hiatuses and then you just got to come in do your little jokes and
Starting point is 00:21:15 then be like man i'm fucking caked up like but i also have lost the will to do comedy because right and you know another one shout out to laurica martin again because she was really she when but you know she was a writer for conan for many many years and she did this brilliant thing where like all the jokes that were rejected from the monologue she would just tweet them out one by one it was fucking brilliant i was like yo that's a smart productive way to like use twitter and also know what works and And that's, I've certainly gotten to the point where like you can kind of test material on Twitter. And it's like, if this has traction,
Starting point is 00:21:48 you're like, oh, I can do this on stage. Like easy. It's like, it's so easy that, you know, you're basically saving your own time. It's brilliant. Work hard or work smarter, not harder. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the economy, AI, and other shit that i don't can't even begin to pretend i understand we'll be right back in 1982 atari players had one thing on their minds sword quest this wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists, but the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean,
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Starting point is 00:23:23 when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like why? That was one of those moments
Starting point is 00:24:43 where you're just like, oh wow. It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and there seems to be i i mean i guess it's a an acknowledged concerted effort from the biden campaign to be like man the economy is pretty fucking good right hey you hear about this economy it's not doing too bad economy well there's also killing it over there yeah i'd say legacy media also got the note because in the last fucking two weeks i've seen at least 15 articles with a headline to the
Starting point is 00:25:34 effect of the economy is cooking thanks to biden did anyone notice or like joe biden is not getting the credit he deserves for our fantastic economy. Another one is like Bidenomics. Ever heard of it? You fucking dipshit. Like I saw that headline. Yeah. They're like, he seemed really aggressive.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah. And like this is again, like you're saying, it's all part of a push to get Bidenomics like sort of in the minds of voters, like his sort of like economic principles that he's been like rolling out, which aren't't necessarily revolutionary but slightly different than other democratic presidents hey shithead well you were busy watching barbie yeah joe biden was out here working his ass off so you can put a little fucking money in your pocket right exactly uh but you didn't notice you're too busy saying my job is beach yeah or saying i am become death come on now the economy has become health and that's thanks to joe byron there it is again it's all like they want everybody to just be like hey look we've got
Starting point is 00:26:41 falling unemployment we got inflation numbers that are starting to dip. And we look like we're having that soft landing from like, we're not going to actually have a full-blown recession. And it's all thanks to Joe. And there are numerous write-ups about how he's helping the economy thrive. And we should expect more things like factory openings and new infrastructure projects. And conservative outlets, obviously, are doing the opposite.
Starting point is 00:27:04 They're just taking every opportunity to say by dynamics is a failure or whatever without really pointing to what but it is true unemployment is going down inflation is like you know cooling off a bit uh and forecasters say things are increasingly looking like we may avoid a recession but the polling right if you ask fucking people what the fuck they think they're still not hot on biden or his handling of the economy what the fuck you talking about what's their fucking problem i mean it's also funny because it's like that's what these articles are missing usually in these types of articles and bold statements like here we're talking to a regular common human and let's see what they say and they're not including that for a fucking
Starting point is 00:27:41 reason they're like here's janet yellen from the federal reserve i don't know what the fuck you like i i these are not connecting with me or people right and lauren summers what's your opinion of how this economy is working out for the average everyday person from your from from your remote down in little saint james yeah and like all these like you know normal people again it's not catching on because normal people day-to-day people don't look at these stats or wall street indexes to surmise how well their lives are going you know the reality remains that home ownership is becoming more and more of a fucking fantasy especially with like increased interest rates
Starting point is 00:28:25 uh and a lot of people still feel that even though costs have come down slightly they're still like no shit is still wild out there it's like i paid fucking 18 for a fucking sandwich the other day that was not fancy it was just at a restaurant because that's i don't know whether it's price gouging from the business owners or the actual inflated costs of goods. People can't make sense of that. They just know, man, shit, a dollar ain't getting me what it used to. Yeah, they're not looking at the stats. They're looking at their fucking savings account, if they even have one.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like, that's the reality. Like, that's what you're looking at to decide, like, yeah, how good is this shit? And what's fucked is that the fact that, like, Trump is trump is like a serious potential contender it's like i guess we still have to vote for biden even though i'm not like crazy about the oldest man on the planet running the country that's that's definitely how they want to put it they're like guys what else you're gonna do like vote for someone right who like you know cornell west who says things out loud that are actually in line with how you feel or just come on but don't split the vote is gonna win and they act like it was never an option to like replace him with a more viable candidate they're just like
Starting point is 00:29:30 what sure what do you want this is laziness this is our guys they probably they didn't want to they didn't want to fire up another real campaign machine to actually go toe-to-toe with their just figure like man i don't know we can we're all right if we get this decrepit monkey skeleton up there and just people vote for him against the orange guy it'll be fine but like you know i think this is another failure again where like these like liberal like wonks are trying to dumb explain how the economy is just good on paper and when it should like if you're gonna try and do some shit like that to actually connect with people then you have to frame it through how well the American workers are doing. Can they afford houses? Are their salaries and
Starting point is 00:30:09 wages enough to keep up with inflation and maybe be able to save up or do something on the side? Are their companies operating like the economy is doing great? Because probably not. That's why people aren't noticing how good Biden is doing doing with the economy and personally i use two metrics to think about like if like where inflation or the economy is at first of all how much does it cost to feed myself and mcdonald's for breakfast that shit is 13 dollars right now good yeah you know you know what sucks is that they are basically forcing people to use their apps to get decent costs and it's like these poor old people that are like you know like they just want their dollar coffee
Starting point is 00:30:47 that they've had for fucking 50 years and they can't even get it anymore all you need to do to get that dollar coffee is hook us up with all your health information so that we know when you're kind of close to kicking the bucket and can advertise to your younger relatives
Starting point is 00:31:03 because it is disorienting. Every time you pull up to the window, they go, hi, are you using the McDonald's app today? What? No, motherfucker, I'm in the drive-thru. What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't even just connect it now, Marcella, that the point is you could get a discount by using the app. Because I'm like, I am
Starting point is 00:31:19 in the drive-thru. Give me my two McMuffins. Well, I will say I use it because the prices are so crazy i was like i'll fuck it i'll just i'll use it is it that much different sometimes like you know like i'm telling you they and but the thing is the trick now is they switch the deals it used to be you could still get the dollar coffee but through the app now it's like okay sometimes we'll give you a dollar for a coffee but yeah yeah no that's one metric for me because
Starting point is 00:31:42 i remember when you could get two sausage mcmuffins for five dollars and i was like that's a fucking like that's where we're at that's and they have that at that deal on the app but only sometimes that's what i'm saying exactly that that's what's crazy bro i remember when we had 35 cent cheeseburger sundaes or whatever the fuck it was yeah wednesdays and sundays yeah oh my god hamburger wednesday Get out of here. Hamburger Wednesday, cheeseburger Sundays, 39, so, whew, that was the fucking shit. And then you go with, like,
Starting point is 00:32:07 your homie who had the big Catholic family and you're like, yo, we eating fucking good today. That's us. That was us. That was us. We always did that.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That was my homie that I always kicked you with when they were like, yo. That was us. We were the family. I'm a salado fish on Friday. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Obviously, obviously. So, again, so that's one thing because, like, I think that's a very normal way to think of, like fast food is like your easy, cheap go-to food that should be affordable. When you're paying $12 for like for one person or a word, we're doing something wild. The second is how do those around me feel about their wages and their financial outlook? And anecdotally, I've like, most of my friends do not work in the entertainment industry.
Starting point is 00:32:44 They all have, you know, they all have some form of the same complaint, which is their companies are going through austerity measures and it makes their lives harder. Yeah, it makes their lives harder for not more money. So they're like, yeah, I got a job or whatever it pays. But like I'm doing more because my company's asked like they fucking laid off a ton of people and thinking we can do all this shit or i have less material to work with at my job where i need these materials because they say the economy so you know joe you got to start i mean i don't know why i'm telling you but the focus has to be he's a fan yeah okay joe focus on the vibes there's something called the vibe economy and the vibe economy is not doing great right now because the vibes are really what a lot of people are feeling like,
Starting point is 00:33:29 yo, you feeling good about shit? Some people are saying no. And I get, and you get why that is. So again, I think it's like interesting that the needle that the White House is seeing move and they go, wow, look at this. It is not a needle movement that is perceptible to the average American person who you are counting on to vote for you. is seeing move and they go wow look at this it is not a needle movement that is perceptible to the average american person who you are counting on to vote for you so until you can connect those
Starting point is 00:33:50 dots like this is just some dumb pr shit that's just annoying people now it's also like every day every time i log on to um twitter i i'm literally every day we're seeing someone like this new this other group is now going on strike and this other group is also going on. And then this group over here is also going on strike. And I'm like, yeah, we really are seeing like the biggest labor movement in years. That's like, yeah. So I guess I would also force I was Biden's PR guy. I guess I would also be forcing this fucking propaganda, this Bidenomics propaganda shit, because we can all see that the news is not reflecting you know whatever
Starting point is 00:34:25 fucking stats they supposedly came up with yeah it's good for like a very small segment of the country who can look at that go yeah man i'm it actually is we look like it does look like a soft landing like the fuck is that well because the majority of americans are like invisible to them exactly the people who they actually work for and and this has been like designed by those people spending billions of dollars year after year on lobbying but like that the only thing that's visible to them are these metrics and they're like getting they're they're acing the class in those metrics but the that's the only thing that they can actually pay attention to and then they wonder why people are upset.
Starting point is 00:35:06 But it's like, well, you have no access to those people because the system has been completely built by these institutions, like intentionally, brilliantly so. They've done a really good job of just cosseting, you know, like keeping you from information about like how people how people actually are living their lives yeah i feel like we got to return to a standard where
Starting point is 00:35:30 if you spent 20 at taco bell by yourself you're gonna die from eating all that food but now that's like one combo and a couple extra shits and you are already 17 and i'm like this used to be what the fuck and i know i'm like feeling old time like taco bell mcdonald's old cost there used to be but like these are the kinds of things you notice when you're out in the world that reflect back to you what what your toil is worth but also you know the other thing the other thing about that whole like oh i feel old because back in the day cheeseburgers were 35 cents But back when we used to hear that from people that were older than us, it's not like the price was like a jump.
Starting point is 00:36:08 It was like, oh, you mean the thing that's $1.50 now used to be 10 cents? Like, okay, well, I can see how that sucks. But also like that doesn't seem crazy. Now it's like, no, no, no. Cheeseburgers used to be, you know, whatever, $6.50 on Sunday. And now they're literally, know fucking five dollars for one like you can't it's not that's that's not the same jump it's just not the right jump yeah and also those people who were saying that shit when we were younger were like in their 70s sure like they
Starting point is 00:36:35 we we are you know talking from like our 30s and 40s that's the other part like it's gotten so crazy so quickly there's like 16 year olds out there being like i remember when exactly yeah the cheeseburger meal was affordable yeah fuck man yeah well but good luck with all that pr shit but my god like again like we said the poorest people they probably know are the interns at the white house right right yeah yeah children or for a second who can only afford to be interns probably because their parents have rich parents who already like have a career on capitol hill or whatever all right as regards like the the economy that is visible to biden like there's been a lot of writing about how it is largely propped up, especially the tech sector
Starting point is 00:37:28 is propped up by all the hype around AI. Like everyone is investing massive amounts of money in AI. Like some of the biggest growth in the economy has been around AI. And we've been like somewhat skeptical on this show, like about the fact that this is like
Starting point is 00:37:47 functionally going to be the absolute game changer that everybody has claimed it's going to be there's this article in the washington post a few days back that points out that the whole thing that like kicked off all the excitement around chat gpt was this report that said that they were like hitting these numbers of users that were actually like they were hitting 100 million people using their thing regularly faster than tiktok and instagram like by a lot like they just like everybody rushed in everybody was on this shit now it was gonna like change things the same way that like instagram changed day people's day-to-day lives and it's like totally based on like bullshit the the number was inaccurate like the number that they were
Starting point is 00:38:36 reporting was actually monthly i think i think it was like visitors yeah website visits just people who like went to the website oh so 100 million people checked out the website checked out the website sure that's it they didn't they didn't actually use the shit and like they won't report their monthly active user number which is probably means it's really high and good really funny story to follow after the by the nomics the whole right yeah no it's just such bullshit. The whole thing is such bullshit. But because capitalism is not like, you know, if it ever was, it's no longer an effective way to distribute value to people at this point. It's just a way for people involved who know the rules and control the rules to generate
Starting point is 00:39:20 ways to make money for themselves and other people who are involved. to generate ways to make money for themselves and other people who are involved. And so that misunderstanding just took like venture capital firms have poured like billions of dollars into AI, like research and development, even as like people are saying like chat GPT users have gone down, like even from the fake high point that they were talking about. It's not like it's grown since then, which kind of makes sense to me because it's like complicated to use. It's not, it's not like Tik TOK.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's not like Instagram, you know, it's not a thing that's like addictive and easy to use. And it just like fits nicely into your life. It's also not something people need to be using on a regular basis. Like I can get understand if you're like, okay, you write copy for some fucking job. That's likeless like all right cool yeah you use that every time you go to work but like for the average person like i don't give a fuck about using chat gpt
Starting point is 00:40:13 no if anything like the the scamming abilities of ai are more impressive to me like there is a new like these people are these researchers found that they could figure out your password based off an audio recording of your keyboard clicks. And the machine learning would analyze the waveforms and intensity to basically discern what you have typed. So, like, you know, there's something they're saying, like, I read my password out loud as i said yeah jack is daddy's most precious boy exclamation at symbol um but like it but like in those ways i'm like holy shit like i feel like there's more interesting shit i'm hearing to be like whoa you could fucking steal someone's password password off an audio recording more than like this shit can write a headline? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 In this article, they're like, some issues that have popped up with chatbots that we're not sure we're going to be able to solve. They make up false information and AI experts don't seem to think it will be solvable
Starting point is 00:41:21 because it's just pulling information or it's just like from any anything yeah right it's remixing information in a way that seems smart so i don't know the other problem they're using people's copyright works to train the ai so you're basically getting a remix without paying the original artist right over and over again that's the entirety of the thing i like how yesterday there's that shit with zoom where they're like yeah man the the terms and conditions say you know we can fucking train our ai with your shit just so you know when you use zoom cool people like saw that in the fine print they're like wait what the fuck is they're doing
Starting point is 00:41:57 like we would not we're that's not we're saying what we do but enough people are like this is fucked and fuck this bullshit we could legally and you could do fuck all about it, but we won't. Okay, stop freaking out. But enough people were complaining that they're like, okay, yeah, yeah, we're deading that. We're deading that. It's fine. It's fine. We're not trying to get free fucking AI modeling off your Zoom calls and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But yeah, it's all around. Oh my God. Why are you guys being so weird about this i thought we were friends we're zoom here dude use this every day oh just predatory bro tactic i mean oh my god you're being so weird about this honestly are you okay is everything okay at home what the fuck did you eat a breakfast how much breakfast did you have breakfast you have two eggs yeah yeah you have that energy because you're being really weird about this you're being really weird there's a there's also an ai story that's emerging from the humorist simon rich who wrote
Starting point is 00:42:56 that he had like an fx show with jay baruchel that was pretty it was funny it was like weird and it's like a rom-com show mixed with Black Mirror. He's a funny writer. Did you jerk off to his show? It sounds like it. What? Nothing. Nothing of the sort. I don't know why. Where are you picking that up? He calls it Rolling Pretzels.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Rom-com with Black Mirror? That seems like your dream. Oh, Man Seeking Woman. That was the one with Maya Erskine. Maya was in that. Yeah, yeah. And Eric Andre. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And isn't someone like Hitler or some shit in it? Yeah, it's a wild show. Jack loved it. He loved it. Yeah, that's it. The Hitler part. Maya Rudolph and Hitler. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Maya Erskine. Whatever. Same death. I don't give a fuck. Anyways, he is childhood friends with someone at open ai this is the only reason we know about this and like at a wedding a couple years ago the person from open ai was like showing him and his like three other friends this tool that they were developing that was it wasn't the thing that eventually became chat gpt it was this other like darker one and they worked with it for a year.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And he's like, you know, the stuff from chat GPT is like, they, they gave you the dumbed down happy version. Sure. This thing is so bleak. It like has a personality and that personality seems genuinely like not happy about the state of the world and
Starting point is 00:44:28 also like talented as a poet and a comedy like it it generated some decent onion headlines like that he shared in this time magazine article like they're not you know they're not onion headlines that would be like man the onions doing it again and again which is why they're not which is which is exactly what ai does right it takes a good idea and it washes it fucking into like a more digestible form yeah it's a c plus yeah it's a c plus headline right but yeah because like he seems genuinely spooked like he's and he like got john mulaney was like retweeting it and being like this guy's smart and he seems really scared so i'm really scared too but it's just like how like tech bros and i mean true tech engineers true people who work in silicon valley they are like oh yeah we don't
Starting point is 00:45:17 have alexa and like like anything like that in our home like they you know they're the ones like that you gotta yeah you gotta follow them like what the ones that are like that. You got to follow them. What are they saying about this shit? They're like, oh, you got that shit? Turn the mics off. Turn the mics off. Unplug that shit. You're like, why?
Starting point is 00:45:30 I just want to listen to music. They're like, okay. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. I mean, to that point, OpenAI took it away from them after a year. They were like, you can't have this anymore. You can only access code DaVinci 02002 on a one-off basis if you ask for it
Starting point is 00:45:48 so i don't know there's this like bleak emo sad boy ai brother of chat gpt that they have like hidden away behind closed doors that is like freaking this guy out they're like i can't tell i can't tell if it's like it still feels i mean they fed it like a bunch of poetry that probably represents a bleak view of humanity's place in the universe so you know that that's what you're gonna get back so i can't tell it it feels like it's somewhere between oh these people are smart and scared like we we should at least pay attention. And the New York Times journalist who thought that chatbot wanted to fuck him. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:46:30 You don't remember that? No. Oh, I think it was out. Maybe when you were out on paternity, there was this New York Times journalist, like when all the chat GPT stuff was coming out, he was like, I had a long conversation with, I forget which chatbot,
Starting point is 00:46:44 and the chatbot had a woman's name and she tried to get me to like kill my wife or leave my wife and like join her in holy matrimony or like it was like so weird he just got he yeah and it became like a big headline it's also just that classic thing of like when when guys don't realize that the woman in front of them is some you know how like you can't even be nice to guys because they think you're flirting but some like the next level version of that is guys who are like i'm not flirting but they actually are flirting they just don't realize they're flirting and then like the woman is gonna flirt back because you know that like she's responding to what you're giving her yeah like you know you know he was fucking being weird oh for sure yeah but anyways what he was
Starting point is 00:47:31 saying is a weird black box that i don't understand did you guys see the shit that came out today that the ai generated video of indigenous australians are being used in ads by opponents of The Voice, and it's casting doubt. It says the ads have so far reached up to 210,000 people and feature an AI-generated character with brown skin who voices scripts casting doubt in the referendum. Oh, my God. So this can get worse before it gets good at all and that's what a lot of people are saying like it's that that first layer you got to watch out for is just the wild levels of disinformation that like yeah before we get to the part about like people's you know taking over full industries it's like this shit is gonna play the fuck out of people at first yeah and can you imagine if if they had if like trump had that when like the beginning of like the the shit happened with the election
Starting point is 00:48:25 like dude he he would have fucking used the fuck out of that if he knew that that he was able to but why can you i mean i'm sure we'll see this and obviously we're going to be seeing some shit like this in 2024 but it'll probably be with like such terrible taste from like white supremacists that you're like oh come on no this is fake as fuck. But I don't know, enough people will probably buy it. Yeah. It feels like all, like what it has effectively done, like the actual leap in technology
Starting point is 00:48:55 is just like making lies harder to spot. Yeah. Like that seems like the actual effective thing. Like all the stuff that people are pouring money into, like they still have this very fundamental flaw where they're like yeah but it's all lies and there's nothing you could do like you can't use it as a research tool because it's just if this if the information that you fed it is full of shit it's going to like tell you right lies and even if it's not it might like get the wrong conclusion it might draw the wrong conclusion exactly so the only thing it does is the thing that is exciting about it when you first encounter it which is like man this sounds
Starting point is 00:49:31 like it's a person who has a personality like it seems like it really is good at fooling you into thinking there's thought behind it and that's like i i haven't heard anybody be like and beyond that here are the other things we know it can do. The main thing it seems to be is just a really good. It's like the Mission Impossible mask for information. It's like, yeah, you can't like the lie. The disguises for lies on the Internet have gone up like 100 percent. And it's just gonna be so much harder
Starting point is 00:50:05 to tell bullshit from not bullshit yeah that's why you can only trust us marcella jack and miles yes and we are not ai renderings of ourselves mjm forever exactly you know mmj medical marijuana that's what it is also you know uh just know, the more I just read about it, it is like you really just do see this fork in the road. You're like, I see the applications in this benign sense. I see it in the potential to be the authors of creativity. But yeah, I really missed the part where how much industry folks are getting so pumped up about it and pouring money into it when, again, it feels like another brilliant bit of manufactured storytelling on some level. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Yeah, it seems like marketing. It's that thing, too, where it's like I've seen more negatives and positives come out of you know the its entire functionality and that's what's fucked it's like yeah i guess it's cool to help people write copy but is uh assisting people write copy worth uh the fucking lies that are being perpetuated and it could be used by the government and fucking elections and all kinds of funky shit man it's gonna be it's gonna be wild ride for the next 10 years. And we're not ready.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I'm out here complaining about... Those Montgomery, Annabelle people probably are more ready. They're ready. They're going to be like, bitch, I'll break that fucking robot. I'm out here shattered at the McDonald's drive-thru. I can't believe how much McMuffin does. Is that voice that asked me if I'm using the app? That's supposed to... Do you know asked me if I'm using the app?
Starting point is 00:51:46 They're like, bro, do you know about AI? I'm like, what? That's you. They don't have the Oreo pie anymore. Is that good? I haven't had it. It looks a little too intense. All it takes is me to be high one night and just be like,
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Starting point is 00:55:58 don't know what that means but okay but fuck that thing yeah Yeah. So one scientist described PCNA, which I think is the proliferating cell nuclear. Yeah, they described it as like a major airline terminal hub containing multiple plane gates, and their cancer-killing pill is like a snowstorm that closes a key airline hub, shutting down all flights in and out. So only in planes carrying cancer cells
Starting point is 00:56:28 oh so if it's doing the right thing then it's like okay you're good yes but then hold on hold on what's in here cancer no fuck that we're not going anywhere yeah which is wild because like so much of cancer treatment is just like i don't know we just like fix a laser beam on the general area that it is and like that whole area gets fucked right right yeah like it's pretty harsh a lot of the time so the fact that this is as targeted as it is and like intelligent at communicating on a at a cellular level is pretty exciting and yet 20 years tested on what types of people they tested it on because you know i'd imagine just like covid and and the and the vaccine it's like it's gonna affect everybody differently i hope that this shit works my dad died of cancer so i support anything that can help some people
Starting point is 00:57:14 you know i've lost so many people in the last year to it it's just yeah it's it's so devastating and it's like you you're you're looking for all the advancements we make yeah can we find the way to eliminate that slow painful death that so many of us have had to watch that's what's so annoying when you hear the sentence you said earlier jack that was like you know they've spent billions on ai research and that's just making shit worse every day and it's like bro you guys can't invest in something that's going to save lives of people that are going to contribute to society in a positive way or even that's going to affect that's going to affect the chemo industry so i don't know if you want to get in the way of that exactly why would you want to do that right and and this is the best way to organize things
Starting point is 00:57:57 it's just on whatever is going to make the people at the top the most money yeah it's like annoying like you know beyonce god bless her for spending a hundred thousand to keep the trains open yeah in dc because like the weather delayed the the concert and she wanted to make sure everyone got home safe which was like very thoughtful but it's like can we just get some of these billionaires and rich people to like spend money on shit that's gonna like really just actually help society in an actual substantial way. It just, it's just wild to me how rich people spend their money. Yeah. Well, and also just, you can just almost picture like the way our, like our society works. It's like shark tank. It's like sharks. I
Starting point is 00:58:36 have an offer for you. I just need $2 million in funding for my new breakthrough cancer drug. I've been researching for 20 years and this just a more investment will get us over the line. Wait, so what's the over-under on that? They're just like, well, I don't like this idea. So what is it? How can it benefit me? Sorry, I missed that. I was messing with this chat GPT,
Starting point is 00:58:55 and I think she wants to fuck me. Whoa. I said I'm trying to cure fucking cancer, man. When's the wedding? Okay, so then can your pill help with his wedding for the oh my god that's so fun yeah like and yeah we're just sort of at these crossroads and it's like yeah let's pick the fucking the thing that we can and just underserve like our a lot of our medical research but hey uh at least good it's good to read these kinds of fucking developments
Starting point is 00:59:23 because yeah so the initial results so far are only in cell and animal models, but the first phase of clinical trials in humans is now underway. So we will be keeping an eye on that. So there from a story that isn't being covered that much in the mainstream media to the one that's being covered way too much in the mainstream media, shark attacks, baby. Shark attack. Shark attack. I attacks baby shark attack yeah we do we love it we love a shark attack don't we folks but this week it was reported that a man in
Starting point is 00:59:54 florida survived a rare shark attack and the shark was trying to eat his booty hole or some shit yeah yeah trying to lick actually yeah what a stupid joke i'm sorry i was trying to eat his ass they were they were like that thing was trying to eat your ass no but like for real in the biblical sense no it was it was just like it was he was bitten on his lower leg in what authorities are calling a rare shark attack off the coast of florida but like people are basically pointing out that the media is now just there the horny for shark attack stories yeah they're just putting the word shark attack in a headline is going is money it's just like they start hearing yeah they're trying to keep people out of the boiling water that is the ocean now because the temperatures are rising in the ocean.
Starting point is 01:00:47 They're just like, but also these shark attacks will just don't get in the hot ass water and you won't notice that climate change is everywhere. Also, Ian Edwards has a really great bit about shark attacks. He's like, those aren't shark attacks. You guys are invading their homes. They didn't attack you. You are in their house. It's our home invasion robbery. He has a great bit about that check it out that's actually a stand your ground law type situation yeah and in florida yeah yeah report but there's been
Starting point is 01:01:16 like reports of the floridian cocaine shark which i remember that phrase being a thing i don't remember anything about it but the headline is junkie cocaine sharks are strung out and tweaked in Florida. Expert, you will be shocked to learn that that headline was in the New York Post. I love that they think sharks are junkies. Like, oh, my God. Proof that the concept of junkie is like a man-made perspective. Right. And also like in that.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And what does that mean like the shark is gonna go sell like his mother's vcr for fucking cash or some shit like a bag let me suck your dick for some cocaine why am i trying to bite you that's where that rare attack came from yeah this is a true headline wait that's really funny though it's a it's rare because the shark was just like hey man hey man i'm just trying to talk to you for a second, man. Hey, let me just talk to you. I'm trying to get some cocaine, man. Hey, man, I saw you hanging out over there. Hey, where them boys at?
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah, that's why it's rare because he's like, hey, man, hey, come here. I want to talk to you. Oh, we them boys. Oh, okay, okay. So funny. Fuck, that's funny. There's also a headline from the New York Post
Starting point is 01:02:25 is your yum yum swimwear attracting hungry sharks did Pinky Doll write this fucking headline right yum yum shark attack owie what's yum yum swim is that a brand I thought that was a brand
Starting point is 01:02:41 they're saying that they're yummy the sharks want to taste your nasty little nasty little the content of the story is just like yellow might be a thing that attracts sharks attention that's it who the fuck gave the term yum yum to this article like your post i know but is it like some old man who's like you know those kids are out there in their yum yum bathing suits put that in the headline put that, those kids are out there in their yum yum bathing suits. Put that in the headline. Put that in the headline. Yum yum.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Look at those yum yum little toys walking around. It's confusing because I have no context to be like, what the fuck is a yum yum? Or am I that lost? It's just yellow. Yeah. I think it's just all generated by whatever gets the most headlines or the most clicks through. And a lot of times, like the thing that gets the most clicks through are people feeling like, what the fuck? So what they mean is that it says, quote, the apparent link between bright hues and shark bites has even prompted some to dub the color yum yum yellow.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Oh, OK. Well, that makes it less dumb, too. Yeah, that makes it actually perfectly makes sense yeah but also i love like the reflex of the media to also like victim blame shark attack victims yeah were they asking for it in that young what was she wearing yeah oh yum yum oh he was wearing a yum yum oh yeah man you're gonna lose your life what was the ai wearing when it asked me to kill my wife do you know what i mean like These are the questions we have to ask. For real.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Fucking yum yum baby soup. Fuck out of here. Yum yum. Experts are trying to get rid of the phrase shark attack because shark attacks are almost always actually provoked by humans. It's like humans
Starting point is 01:04:22 either fucking with a shark or the shark accidentally biting and then being like, actually provoked by humans right like humans either fucking with a shark or like you know the the shark accidentally biting and then being like oh oh gross it's like the montgomery alabama brawl and how people are saying that it's a brawl as opposed to an attack on this fucking security guard like that's the actual thing that happened but because you know like it's all media framing it's crazy how the media frames shit yeah because like even with like they talk about with climate change too like that's bringing sharkers sharkers sharks closer to the the shore like as like they're the sort of like the the sea temperature changes too so it's like it's all come on now they're not they're not out here
Starting point is 01:05:01 scheming uh it's more just so shit is fucking changing out there and we need to accept that yeah it's like they they put some protections in place because shark populations have been decimated by industrial fishing and so they put some protections for the sharks so this is actually just a sign of like a healthy ecosystem and people are like fuck no get out of the water yeah they're gonna fucking wreck my shit i'm just trying to wear my yum yum bathing suit and be on my paddleboard doing yoga yeah i'm surprised white dudes in florida haven't started like trying to hunt sharks yeah oh they do right i mean that's the thing so that's the thing like the severe human cause decline of shark populations just doesn't
Starting point is 01:05:46 get covered instead oh i didn't know that oh yeah yeah like they've been like since jaws right like since jaws like jaws caused a huge uptick really just going after and killing sharks yeah that's wild yeah just let them cook man just just stay the fuck out their fucking spot that's all yeah god people are losers yeah well i mean nothing will make you feel stronger than harpooning a baby shark in the dome yeah you fucking take that man but the 2017 poll found that sharks are 41st on a list of americans fears despite the fact the fact that sharks are statistically less lethal than being careless while taking a selfie like they're it's one of those things it's that sharks are statistically less lethal than being careless while taking a selfie. It's one of those things that's like you are statistically,
Starting point is 01:06:29 like winning the lottery. It's like your chances are statistically zero. Like you're not going, it's not going to happen. Are you gaslighting me right now? It's not going to happen. So just go in the water in your yum yum yellow. Get out there. Just have a good time. go on the water in your yum yum yellow. Get out there. Just have a good time.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Splash about. Got that yummy yum. Yeah. And then they also point to Shark Week as being like not. It's just full of misinformation. A lot of shark propaganda on both sides. Yeah. Well, this one is.
Starting point is 01:07:02 So they had Aquaman, Jason Momoa, that's hosting Shark Week this this year. And he promoted his appearance with an ad in which he controls the ocean's sharks like a symphonic conductor. And but experts are like Shark Week is like a huge source of misinformation and nonsense about sharks that sometimes glorifies the sort of wildlife harassment that will get a shark to bite you. Natural selection. Marcella, as always, such a pleasure having you on the Daily
Starting point is 01:07:40 Zeitgeist. I need more energy from you, Jack. Marcella, what a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Holy shit. Please leave both of those versions in. Thank you so much. It was so great to be here. People can find me at MarcellaComedy.com across all social media on Marcella Comedy. social media marcella comedy also i was hoping i totally forgot i wanted to promote my show tonight because tonight i'm doing women crush wednesdays my show that used to be weekly that turned into monthly we're doing it at the ford theater here in los angeles tonight and i'm very excited because it's a fucking beautiful amphitheater and it's and we have an incredible lineup special cast we have our first drag queen i'm meatball who if you i don't know if you know did the george santos drag queen performance that went viral but yeah it's gonna be a fucking amazing show so please come out tonight use the code women for for 20 discount come on la come
Starting point is 01:08:34 see me host my favorite show and my best element if you like me shitting on jack o'brien just wait till i fucking manhandle that audience i thought thought you were going to say most of your material was just shitting on me. It could be. If you show up. I love the TDZers. You call it the Jack album? Yeah. Fuck Jack.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Fuck this guy. Fuck this guy. Amazing. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Is there a work of media? Just literally everything about the montgomery alabama doc fight that shit i cannot get enough there is just so many tweets that i really can't even go on one like they're all so good like they're doing all these like art renderings
Starting point is 01:09:19 like classic black art and they're putting folding chairs in them and like man it's so beautiful it's so funny the miles earlier or i'm sorry miles had mentioned the uh the reenactments like there's no there's no version of it that isn't hilarious and he's not there's no one thing that's funnier than anything else it's just like all mind-blowingly funny so definitely jack i'm telling you bro make sure you also consume all that bullshit because it's so funny. And I will. I will have consumed it by the time they hear yesterday's trending. So, yeah, you'll be ready.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Amazing. Well, Miles, where can people find you? And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, all them places at Miles of Gray. Find us on our basketball podcast Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosties, you can find me on my 90 Day Fiance podcast with Sophia Alexandra for 20 Day Fiance
Starting point is 01:10:12 and if you like true crime or hearing about people who like to kidnap and rob millionaires and give to the poor well check out my latest podcast called The Good Thief about the Greek Robin Hood who was actually doing that shit in the 90s. So yeah, those are all the main places you can find me.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Terms of media, don't really have anything specific, but yeah, just, I've been watching a lot of boat content to be honest. So good. The kid who jumped in the water was
Starting point is 01:10:42 a 16-year-old. Yeah, 16- old 16 year old i just found out yeah and that was his co-worker he was pulling up for that that was the other thing that someone had tweeted something like man that kid swam whatever however long it was and then pulled himself out yeah and fully wet clothes fully wet clothes so he was heavy as fuck and whooped ass and somebody was like ah to have the energy of being 16 again. Like, there's so many takes that are just so worth enjoying. Like, oh man,
Starting point is 01:11:10 great. Jack, where can people find you and is there a piece of media that you've been enjoying? Oh my God, thank you so much for asking. You can find me on Twitter
Starting point is 01:11:17 at Jack underscore O'Brien and on threads at Jack underscore O underscore O'Brien. Jack underscore O'Brien. Are people still on threads? Barely. I mean, I'm there. I look at it, but. Yeah, I look still on threads? I mean, I'm there.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I look at it, but. Yeah, I look at it too, but man, I'm not. Didn't they say like half the people have fallen off though, who have signed up, which makes sense. And I don't think half the motherfuckers were even using it when they signed up. But anyway. Yeah. Tweet I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And this actually was the tweet that I had was Marcella's tweet about the guy who invented the wheelchair that she talked about earlier. That was my number one for the day. Here, let me actually find it. Let me bring that. I appreciate that. God, you're obsessed with me. Why are you so obsessed with me? You're so obsessed with me.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Leave me alone. There you go. Why? You're the one that wants me to kill your wife after you told me. Never mind. That's not nice. That's not nice. You're so obsessed with me.
Starting point is 01:12:12 That's true. I love Jack. Jack finally looks me in the eyes over these Zooms. Like, man, daily's like, guys, we've come a long way. You got to break them, you know? Hey, man, I remember we used to go in there into the studio and I couldn't even get Jack to look at me and I'd be like, what the fuck? And then I now, here we are.
Starting point is 01:12:31 He's just looking at my tweets on the episode that I'm on obsessed. Deep eye contact. Deep, deep, deep eye contact. The tweet I've been enjoying from Marcel Arguello. Damn, whoever invented the wheelchair wanted pussy so bad. There it is.
Starting point is 01:12:47 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Oh, yeah. This is an artist called Rahil, who's an Iranian-American artist, DJ, kind of producer. The track is called Tell Me. You spell it R-A-H-I-L-L, Rahil. And this is like dope. I don't know, man. This is a very, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:22 It's like a multi-genre kind of uh instrumental uh just really good good music it's like it's fun when you hear people making new shit that sounds kind of new but yeah this is rahil with tell me all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows that's gonna do it for us this morning but we are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we'll talk to you all then. Bye.
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