The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeitlander 4: Trendgame 7/16: Anthony Bourdain, Blue Origin, Frito-Lay, Netflix, Deadpool

Episode Date: July 17, 2021

In this edition of Zeitlander 4: Trendgame, Jack and Super Producer Joelle discuss the new Anthony Bourdain documentary, the soon-to-be youngest person in space being some spoiled rich kid, the Frito-...Lay worker strike, Netflix's new game streaming service, and Ryan Reynolds being the most meta actor ever. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 That is courtesy of Come On, It's still good podcast um shout out to y'all i am jack that is joelle monique hello hello hello hello hello uh thank you for joining us absolutely on this fine friday afternoon sending people into the weekend with six trends for them. Six things that are trending. Let's kick it off with Anthony Bourdain is trendling. So there's a new documentary that just hit Cannes that is about his life. And the filmmaker in a recent New Yorker profile talked about how he used AI to do some of the Anthony Bourdain voiceover stuff from the documentary,
Starting point is 00:03:10 which I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. I feel like Anthony wouldn't like it, and therefore I'm having trouble getting behind it. There's something about putting words in a person's mouth that's really like ringing alarm bells and anthony is so prolific on on radio shows and in his own net like shows i just feel like as a documentary unless i don't know what they're ai is it stuff they scripted or is it like things he wrote and
Starting point is 00:03:42 maybe didn't get a chance to do like read or do voiceover for so it's emails that he wrote so he's it's if you're gonna do it like having him read some of his emails out loud feels like the way to what you would want it it being him reading something that he actually wrote. However, I don't know. Like, just from a filmmaking perspective, like, if I was watching that, I'd be like, wait, why did he read his emails out loud before he died? Yeah, and I think there's something to be said about either find the footage or find someone to do the voice.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Like, in I'm Not Your Nego, Samuel L. Jackson does the voice for James Baldwin. And it's like so beautiful. It's definitely an interpretation of the person using their own words. But there's something that feels more authentic than here's an artificial voice we use to make it sound like that. On the other hand, we are so familiar with Anthony Bourdain's voice. like that on the other hand we are so familiar with anthony bourdain's voice like i don't yeah tons of people me included are constantly re-watch his show uh specifically the cnn version and it i understand from a filmmaker point of wanting to be like listen we're intimately familiar with this voice it we should hear it coming from him but then there's like tone and inflection and
Starting point is 00:05:03 i feel really for you about it well i i think it has the potential to be beautiful and great and really put the viewer in anthony's headspace which is the goal of a documentary anyway um but it also has the possibility of being alienating and putting wrong inflections on and an emphasis on words that maybe were not his intention. And that makes me feel a little weird. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:30 here, I think I have, uh, the audio right here. Let me just, okay. Hello. My name is Anthony Bourdain.
Starting point is 00:05:38 What? You were so wild for that. I was like, what is happening? Yeah happening yeah hopefully i don't know yeah we'll shout out to one of the greats to ever do it and i hear the documentary is pretty good so um but again like this is one of those things you you didn't need to distract from it by using technology uh but i do offer people um the complete freedom once I die to use the hundreds of thousands of hours of my voice that I've recorded and released to make me say whatever they want. Use me as a human greeting card, whatever you want. You do not have my permission to do the same with my voice. Don't.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Let's see. Oh, we finally found out who the third person on jeff bezos's space flight this weekend is gonna be um and i think this is gonna inspire lots of people whose dads are millionaires bordering on billionaires uh because it is 18 year old oliver damon who whose dad paid $28 million to make him the youngest person ever in space and yeah I mean shout out to him
Starting point is 00:06:53 very cool well deserved he's applying to colleges this is really you know he needs this right now he really needs to get the advantage over the other kids so that he has a chance at life yes flex sir flex on those college freshmen as a parent could you imagine sending your 18 year old in what is essentially a space experiment from a private like i nasa gets it wrong sometimes i can't imagine i can't imagine putting my baby on a plane to space no right like the
Starting point is 00:07:27 first time you know flight 360 maybe uh right right yeah absolutely not yeah i also can't imagine it's gonna be like great for them also i'm not impressed that he's the youngest person in space that absolutely you did not earn this You're not a space prodigy. This is just ruining the record for youngest person in space now. It's just like, okay, well, technically. You know what? That seven-year-old who really. It's like the Star Wars era of baseball.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yes. Yes. I'm waiting for that seven-year-old prodigy, you know, who can do, I don't know what science is you need to get to space. I'm just going to say rocket science. The math. you know that that kid who's like i'm ready and that's like you know what yes yes we need actually surprisingly easy it's just like addition and subtraction uh so you know uh the yeah this feels a little bit like for some reason i this just intellectually does not agree with me um it reminds me of like when youtube influencers write their autobiographies at the age of like 19
Starting point is 00:08:34 it's just like you haven't done shit like when this kid gets up there like the whole thing with going into space is supposed to be that like you have this amazing like pull perspective back and suddenly you realize that we're all just part of this human race together and uh we're just very insignificant and this kid what is this kid gonna he's gonna be like tight hey jeff that's pretty tight right yeah i mean maybe he'll turn out to be like Howard Hughes-esque in that, you know, he had a lot of money and a dream. And it started off sort of weird, you know, mostly just about accolades and getting out there. But then he found a passion and it blossomed into something unique. You know, maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Didn't Howard Hughes like earned his money though no like he howard oh he just inherited him a large company yes and then he almost tanked that company trying to launch his film career hey um that's that's awesome that i have like completely bought into the you know america loves to erase any sort of uh hand hand-me-downs that the the rich get and make it a story of them pulling themselves up by their bootstraps um just him and his millions of dollars and a fleet of airplanes he had a larger fleet of airplanes in the navy i didn't mean to make this about howard hughes but you give the drift young guy giving money could maybe become something but it just
Starting point is 00:10:08 seems so silly i really wish they had brought someone where it would have been significant to be like oh wow they're going to space that's so cool yeah take a hundred year old not a fucking 18 year old yeah rich oh my gosh that hundred year old was that like three g's on his body just fucking powder against the back of the don't take an octogenarian or higher keep them on the ground yeah um well uh down in topeka kansas uh or up in toeka, Kansas, depending on where you are spiritually. I am spiritually in the spacecraft with Jeff Bezos and this young man. But in Topeka, Kansas, Frito-Lay workers are striking after being forced to work 12 hour days, seven days a week. Quote from one of the strikers, I think people are pushed to the edge kovig created some
Starting point is 00:11:05 of this during kovid managers got to work from home people see that and realize they have other options i don't know it's pretty dope uh glad to see some collective yes get out there uh five year rights five months off uh five months with no day off unacceptable uh exhausting my guess is most of them are on their feet all the time it's a factory so 12 hours on your feet we know what factory conditions are like uh we've all read animal farm uh and we've seen the amazon workers and their pee bottles so yeah i hope they get some respect but my guess is they're going to pull a similar thing that, is it Nabisco who owns Oreo? And was just like, if y'all are mad, we'll just take our jobs to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Peace. It's such a scary time for workers right now, particularly blue collar workers who don't have a lot of leverage in their ability to dictate their schedules or, you know, make plans for their lives they're just literally half at the will of their employer so i don't know hopefully somebody can give them some ability to make better decisions for themselves because that's wild well my time at amazon has taught me that uh unions are actually evil and we could learn we could figure this out on our own right um so yeah all
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Starting point is 00:15:50 bigger than a flag or mascot you have to be ready for serious backlash listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back uh and netflix first of all netflix just hired a head of podcasting so uh oh really netflix coming to take the food out of my uh baby's mouth um but also uh they are apparently uh aiming to do some video gaming.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I'm excited about it. What did they launch? Like a video game section or what's happening? Super not clear. It's early stages. They hired Mike Verdu who used to work for Facebook acquiring games for the Oculus headset. So this guy's clearly in the know. Oculus works with a bunch of different video game development companies so it sounds like what they're gonna do is just put it right
Starting point is 00:16:50 next to the movies and television shows i don't know what kind of controller you'll need if they're gonna come out with their own specific kind if you can buy any generic kind and connect it um it's just not really clear yet. It's still very early days, but it's an exciting opportunity because I think they're looking to launch new release video games. So it'll be a great opportunity for indie developers, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It'll be a great opportunity for indie developers to be like, hey, here's my game that most people would not normally buy given on this very large platform. And it sounds like at this point in time, they're not planning to increase. It's not like an additional package you'd have to buy. It would just come with the rest of the stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Wow. So you wouldn't have to buy a console. No. You would just be able to play through Netflix. I don't know how that's going to work because you can play Netflix on so many different things. So I'm not sure how it's going to all work. That would be game changing.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah, totally. Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's exciting just to see again the potential for indie game developers of which there are so many right now uh to have a large platform to launch their games could could be exciting um deadpool is trending uh there is a new movie coming out called save guy is that what it's called save guy free guy free guy uh that is in which uh ryan reynolds plays a video game character who finds out he's a video game character it's like a video game crossed with truman show uh yep and it's very meta continues with ryan reynolds's thing of being meta in meta movies um and to complete the metaness of it all uh they released a deadpool trailer for uh free guy which is deadpool commenting on ryan reynolds in a Ryan Reynolds movie. It's the most surreal.
Starting point is 00:18:46 As well as Taika Waititi. Yeah, it's so surreal. And it was confusing to me at first. It was like, 20th Century Fox presents Free Guy, and then here's Deadpool. And I'm like, it's not a Fox property. And then it suddenly dawned on me like, oh, right, no, Disney purchased 20th Century Fox or acquired it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And then they also put corgan because deadpool hasn't officially entered the marvel universe yet so this is technically his first appearance in the mcu maybe but it's a trailer on youtube so it's not really the mcu but he's interacting with mcu characters again sort of for the first time in In the first Deadpool movie, you get a bunch of MCU characters. But again, not from Marvel's Disney, from Fox. So the incest of studios and the overlap, and it also seems like potentially illegal hurdles. It was wild. It really blew my mind watching it.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I still can't fully process what, if literally anything, it means. Other than, like, Ryan Reynolds is just a G and can do whatever he wants now. He's reached this sort of superstar status of not having to adhere to the typical Disney rules. You know, a lot of these actors, performers have to live real strict, clean-cut lives. Like, you do not want to upset the mouse. Ask Gina. She knows. performers have to live real strict, clean cut lives. Like you do not want to upset the mouse. Ask Gina. She knows.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But but he also can reach out to these other companies and do other things and still find a way to fold it back into Deadpool because that character has been designed to be like so meta and out of the box. Again, I don't know if it means anything long term or if this is just a weird one off thing Ryan gets to do. And I just have to like marvel at how bizarre it is it was weird i don't know literally marvel yes literally so so this is because deadpool has not been in the marvel universe this is like a the first time that deadpool has crossed over into the marvel universe and it's because of those two characters being yes on the same screen something crazy here
Starting point is 00:20:45 someone pointed out like they were both in a dc property because ryan played green lantern and taika has a bit part in that green lantern movie this is technically a reunion for those two guys but for a different comic book movie company it was wild all right well joelle uh it's been such a pleasure having you uh on tdz uh we only got to five stories but that's all the time we had so uh where can people find you and follow you yeah you guys send me out joel monique you can find me all over the internet at joel monique it's j-o-e-l-l-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e there you go and that's gonna do it for us for this week uh we are back monday with a whole ass episode of the show until then have a good weekend be kind to each other and be kind to yourselves don't do
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