The Daily Zeitgeist - Zuckerberg Gaslights Self, The Fauci That Stole Xmas? 10.7.21

Episode Date: October 7, 2021

In episode 1004, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Blake Wexler to discuss what Zuck had to say about the recent Facebook news, Jan. 6th witnesses are hoping to run out the clock, Havana syndrome ...sase for attack unravelling, the "war on Christmas", the Zodiac killer has NOT been identified and more!FOOTNOTES: Zuck speaks: WOAH WOAH WOAH, that’s not the Facebook I KNOW! Jan 6 Witnesses are hoping to run out the clock… Havana Syndrome Case For Attack Unravelling The “War on Christmas” Has Started Early No, The Zodiac Killer Hasn’t Been Identified LISTEN: Khalil Blu- Runway Talk Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:30 It is National Chocolate Covered Pretzel Day, an important day for me and mine because I do love a good chocolate covered pretzel. As long as they're salted. I need that salty in there. What's your favorite one you'll buy at the store?
Starting point is 00:02:45 I mean, flips. I'm here for anything. Oh, I knew you were going to go flipping out. I'll go for anything. I like this poke, too. You know, like sometimes you see the ones that go to a boardwalk, and it'll be like the pretzel rod, like just a straight shooter. Where they do only half of it to prove to you this is actually a pretzel.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Right, right. Not a carbon rod or something yeah my name is jack o'brien aka the best part of vaccine up no swimmers in your come uh that's courtesy of chris mackling a new take on the fact that the vaccine you know makes you infertile uh the fact i'm gonna put that in quotesile. The fact, I'm going to put that in quotes because I'm still doing my own research on that, but Chris is pointing out here that that could just be
Starting point is 00:03:32 birth control. That could be something that you see as a positive. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Graham! What's with these homies soaking in girls?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Why don't they wanna thrust? How did they ever do it with guys when they just couldn't bust? But you know I'll jump
Starting point is 00:04:02 so that you could hump. I won't close my eyes. Okay, shout out to, oh, hi, Morb, for that wonderful Buddy Holly Weezer LDS soaking jump hump crossroads, a.k.a. Thank you. Love that song. Beautiful work. Rhodes, a.k.a. Yeah. Love that song.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Beautiful work. I mean, soaking is a thing that's been around for a while, but I feel like it's just reentered the zeitgeist in a way. Soaking's here to stay. I'm calling it. I mean, for someone who like a close friend of mine in high school, he went to he played football at Utah. I remember the first fucking break back.
Starting point is 00:04:41 He was like, yo, really? They'd be floating and shit. I'm like, what is this? So in a way, it feels like that moment when twitter is like ray jay's brandy's brother i just heard about been on the soaking shit all right miles well we are thrilled to be joined once again in our third seat by a brilliant comedian writer and actor uh who's written for and appeared on comedy central and abc ever heard of him yep his stand-up album is The Blake Album. Stuffed Boy and Live from the Pandemic
Starting point is 00:05:09 debuted at number one on iTunes and Amazon and his album 12 Years of Voicemails from Todd Glass to Blake Wexler charted on Billboard. Ever heard of it? Yep. Please welcome the hilarious, the chaotic, Blake Wexler.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's pipeline time. This is Blake Wexler, a.k.a. the Wexon Valdez, a.k.a. the oil spill thrill, a.k.a. the barge in charge, a.k.a. the fossil fuel ghoul, a.k.a. smelly Ellie. No need for hysteria. It's the affected area. Thank you so much for having me it's I missed you guys I I do all joking aside and none of those were jokes but now I do want to be serious it's great to see you guys I miss you thank you yeah the feeling is mutual man I'm it's funny I'm like where you been you're like I'm around I'm like then I'm
Starting point is 00:06:00 fucking up because y'all wanted to I've been needing to hear from Blake. It goes both ways. It goes both ways. So I can reach out as well. Yeah. I do love that Blake went timely with his AKs, with the oil spill, and we're still stuck on Sokin and other cum-based stories. I was from weeks ago, months ago. I was going to write on the Discord where a lot of people submit AKAs. I'm like, y'all, I think we're approaching peak come.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Right. And we may need to switch gears. So, AKA writers, I challenge you for next week. We'll get a few more days into this. Next week. Not yet. Switching it up. What is oil, though, if not the earth's come so i think we are honestly
Starting point is 00:06:46 and i who said that was that rl stein yes i think so that's right yeah yeah rl stein the first sentence in say cheese and die i think it was bumps yeah i thought it was you know he was dedicating the book to someone but no it was actually just sage sage wisdom could you imagine just like those pages that are just dedicated just a serious book in the first one you're like you're like isn't oil just the earth's come like gee what age group is this book for who is this for this reprint of infinite jest is something else. Infinite Jizz. I'm sorry. No, here he is. Yes, we're back. Chaos boys.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Young chaos. Young chaos. Little chaos. Blake, you are coming to us from the streets of Philadelphia. I am. No, no, no, no. What's good, man? What's new in Philly?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Philly's great. We had trash pickup day today, which was one of my favorite days of the week. You know, you clean the slate, start over, pile that stuff up again. Found a dead squirrel on the windshield of my car, which I took personally. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because it had that note on it that said, fuck you, Blake, you're next. It said, you did this to me, Blake Wexler.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And then the first four numbers of my wexler and then my the first four numbers of my social where generally it's the first three or the last you know yeah yeah they did first four this time but yeah no uh dead vermin's and trash day notwithstanding philadelphia is great yeah you've painted a beautiful picture yeah i really thank you it's i'm a words myth and i think being a words myth i like drawing pictures with my words so yeah yeah wonderful do you y'all do you ever do that thing where you look at your like when you take your cans out you're like man i can get a week another week my cans they're called breast smiles for the garbage pickup i did that the other day i'm like i'm so I'm such a dedicated bringer out of my garbage cans.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like there'll be one can in it and I'll be like, oh, they should probably take this. But part of me is like, that seems like a waste of everyone's energy. If like like sometimes if it's like less than a quarter full on trash day, I'm like, oh, I'll save them. I'll save it yeah i'll do the same thing where it's like well if i just hold on to this for another week cans don't generally smell because the smell is my worst fear but in just period the smell by trash is my worst fear but no you're right across all the spectrum of your fears yeah yeah brain aneurysm earthquake all those uh distant shark bite distant number to the smell of my cans but yeah no can wise uh yeah i mean if it just piles up for another week
Starting point is 00:09:30 wait three weeks you know what i mean yeah depends on the heat you know because i've i've chanced it before and i nearly like ended my own life with like a bunch of old shrimp that was in a garbage oh no miles like in the in the heat not in front of lake miles not in front of lake what did we talk about i'm sorry my nose hairs like fell out of my nose like i remember it's like the ammonia was like like there's some dead bodies we need to resurrect to bring them by this can that's that's some chris yeah no crustacean talk from now on put yeah as a friend if you guys could be friends and not talk about or mollusks yes okay yeah all right blake we're gonna get to know you a little bit better uh in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about
Starting point is 00:10:15 we're gonna talk about mark zuckerberg thus spoke zuck he spoke on you know all the all these you know wild accusations being thrown at Facebook. And he doesn't even like it's like they're it's like these people are like a different planet, man. Like, what are they even talking about? Do you guys agree with this? Really? It's a shame. They say that about the great work. Come on.
Starting point is 00:10:39 We're going to talk about the January 6th witnesses who are seem like they're hoping to run out the clock on having to testify in front of the congressional January 6th committee because they have nothing to hide. So they're just going to ignore their subpoenas. We're going to talk about Havana syndrome. There's a newly unclassified report that we'll talk about the implications of that we will talk about the war on christmas which the libs have already started and we will talk about why the zodiac killer has not been identified finally yeah what the fuck is that oh i just saw that on twitter there's so many zodiac killer jokes yeah i have to catch me up on these things. I wish I gave a fuck about the Zodiac. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That's one of those things where people just wrote a million Zodiac jokes and then they didn't get to like get them all out and they've just been holding on to them. And then anything tangentially related to the Zodiac killer, they get to just unleash those like, you know, jokes they've had on ice for the past however many years it's like my good friend drafts yes it that's as good of an explanation as anything i've been able to come up with for why that story has like blown up because it's that the claim to like they've solved it they have these are the people who we would trust to solve it is i non-existent i'm totally confused by how this has become a thing but before we get to any of that shit blake we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history i will tell you that i just wanted to give miles props god forbid real quick where he made me laugh so hard in the intro when you referred to a pretzel rod as a straight shooter.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's such a weird thing to say. I lost it. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not really. My vocabulary has been altered by many drugs. So I arrive at different ways to describe things, you know, than most people. Jack just took it as just oh that's a completely normal way to refer just a straight shooter straight shooters you got the
Starting point is 00:12:52 curvy ones curvy straight shooters uh nuggies there's all kinds of pretzels the pretzel taxonomy i get i get it's a strange world okay my search history. Was that your question that you asked six seconds ago that I don't remember? I searched Richard Gere, Bill Clinton, because I was watching that impeachment show. And we were like two and a half episodes in my fiance and I. And I turned to her and I said, oh, I can't believe they got Dick Gere. And she just kind of ignored it because she thought it was like a dick joke. And then after the episode i searched like oh wow like i'm under you know is he like how many episodes like has he ever
Starting point is 00:13:30 done something like this and then it wasn't richard gear it's clive owen who was playing it and for three whole episodes of the show i thought bill clinton was played by richard gear and had not a clue in hell like if you if i was to bet the safety of my loved ones and my dog i'd be like yeah it's richard gear clearly but no it's not richard gear it's uh it's quite here i mean i was like how you went like real familiar too you're like dick gear huh right right well you know you got to keep it interesting around the house were you able to find any other people making the same mistake as you? Like that,
Starting point is 00:14:06 that's always important when I make a mistake is to be like, well, a lot of other people like this has to be a trending search term. I will just, uh, you know, say that I can't find anybody else, uh,
Starting point is 00:14:17 making this mistake. I was too busy looking up brain bleeds and, you know, other serious medical issues to look into the rest of it. But yeah, no, that is a good way. Uh,
Starting point is 00:14:27 what do you have one like that, Jack, where one time you thought this, and then a bunch of people, like, I haven't seen anyone think Richard you're for this. I don't even know if the guy's still alive. Nobody knows.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Nobody knows. It's actually impossible to know. There's no way to know for sure. How could you verify something like that? Yeah, no, I have a couple of these every day. My latest was just coming to the conclusion that everything is fruits.
Starting point is 00:14:50 There are no vegetables. And people were quick to point out a bunch of trends of that nature. So what I do is I come on this show and just talk about how I'm wrong about everything. And then people are like, yeah, me too. And yeah, that's how I, yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:07 this is all a ruse just for Jack to feel better about. Like, what do we talk about this other thing? Jackie's like, nah, I can't believe I didn't know about this. Anyone else? Anyone else?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah. I think the closest I did was like, I didn't realize it was Jillian Anderson in the crown playing Margaret Thatcher the whole time. Interesting. And I didn't even it didn't even register. It was one of those things. I just I accepted the performance as it was. And it was so strong. I was just I don't I didn't even question who the performer was. I was
Starting point is 00:15:35 like, this is Margaret Thatcher in the crown. Margaret Thatcher as herself. Yeah, the crown. Yeah. And I just I don't know why i just it never occurred to me normally i'd be like wow this this performance is great i think on some it was it was so disarming i went further and i was like this is a reality show i think these are like this is very verite stuff it's margaret thatcher was so weird that you think it's a bad performance before you like look up a clip of her. You're like, Oh, that's literally,
Starting point is 00:16:07 that's literally what she was like. Like that's how she spoke in a very, very affected way. Blake, what is something you think is overrated? Subtitles. When you're watching television shows, if you're watching the show in your language,
Starting point is 00:16:21 like in the language that you speak, like if you're watching a show in another language, you don't understand by all means put subtitles on it it's just like i don't i can context clues this probably and understand like i gotta learn the hard way yeah i gotta it's immersive yeah but no i i know a lot of people and i do this myself where you know either you don't want the volume on too loud because volume on things like swings in such an insane way when you're watching something where it could be people whispering and then there's like a war scene and it's so fucking loud you got to like turn the volume down real quick so you don't get evicted but
Starting point is 00:16:54 so anyway that was a tangent that um i don't know how i got there but my point is is that i think you know i know sometimes we'll do subtitles if it's like like an english show for instance you don't like you can't pick up on accents very well but he's blinder peaky the blinders peaky and but in general uh i think like a lot of people leave it on like i know a lot of people leave subtitles on take it off you know take it off enjoy the show taking the visuals don't read the show if you don't have to i see see. I like it. I like it on. Well, fuck me. Well, you know, that's what I said.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You know, I guess I'm glad you came to fully implode your whole appearance here on the show. So we'll never know what's going to happen eventually. Yeah, yeah, I know. But what better way than this? But for me, it's mostly because, like, I'll be high and sometimes my comprehension is better if i'm reading dialogue at certain times or if yeah i think that's usually it or like in a case like deadwood like i had to keep the subtitles on because everything was so fast-paced and colloquial i did not know what was going on that's a good point yeah there are there are exceptions that's a very good point there are
Starting point is 00:18:00 exceptions thank you thank you so much for giving me granting me a religious exemption for that of any time yeah sometimes it will spoil what you're watching like the the reveal will come on come in the subtitles before it's actually spoken yeah like when i was watching old yeller i saw bang and brackets before they shot the dog and i i like i was like fuck fuck it was just a double whammy yeah no that's good it'll also spoil comedy too like in a yeah yes well yeah like a joke real quick where it's like uh but you'll start laughing before you know if it's a really good show and then they do the joke it's it's a very odd way to digest something but yeah yeah i was i recently ruined like a really funny punchline in the other two for having the subtitles on.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And I was like, no! Probably would have hit harder if I saw that performance rather than like, as if I was reading a script. And yeah, to that point, I definitely agree with comedies. The timing of the subtitles does not honor the timing of the delivery. So sometimes the jokes land a bit better when you hear them delivered. Exactly. I read them out loud while i'm watching it to you know let my wife know that i i predicted it you know like i do that sometimes too just the best with the other but it'll be a dead scene you know like a like a dead scene where it's not like super high impact or just reading it out it's just the most annoying thing you can possibly do yeah yeah whispering it like
Starting point is 00:19:31 really loud no i've never loved you or mouthing it yeah we're all mouthing it right now by the way we don't yeah it's a podcast but they've been robbed of that yes squid game i've uh i've watched now half of the third episode this is how i watch tv yep and you know with kids is you watch until they wake up or you know you pass out sitting up but it's you really can't fuck with your phone all that much while you're watching a show that does require subtitles to understand oh no yeah you got to respect the material that because that that second episode and i don't know if you i don't i'm not gonna try and spoil anything but there was like a moment where there's this other character and i was like i looked down for a second and missed all the context around this character
Starting point is 00:20:20 and i'm like what the wait where'd this guy come from and i was like i had to stop and go back like five minutes to realize so yeah i tell you something i've never told anyone at the the first time i saw no country for old men in the theater i just spaced out at the end when he was doing that speech and then it like ended and everyone's like wow and i'm like i i had no clue like you didn't read it no idea four years like for for maybe four or five years everyone would talk about how great it was i'm like yeah it was great but i didn't know why it was great oh the tommy lee jones speech yeah the tommy lee jones speech yeah yeah could did not hear a word of it like was staring but did not hear a single word of it right right right oh my shit what is something you think is
Starting point is 00:21:06 underrated underrated owning as much underwear as possible like and because whenever i do laundry it is almost always because i run out of like clean boxer i don't know why i felt a need to clarify what type of underwear but yeah boxer briefs and and uh what brand lucky brand actually wow yeah when you find a brand that works i think you know for me i i stick with it and hopefully i'll you know get a couple not to make this a lucky brand commercial what uh why are you so uh brand loyal what happened it's so i mean if we i have good leg hole openings a thick it, actually the smallest fly opening out of all. It's almost jokey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I find it. Yeah. It's comforting in that way. I can't even get a diamond there. Yeah. To be honest, it is like, I have like a thicker ass and they're good for a thick ass. So. Okay. Yeah. Oh, without sometimes you'll go. I have like a thicker ass and they're good for a thick ass. So, yeah. Oh, without sometimes you'll go.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I'm in a similar situation. I'm thick-thighed. And sometimes the waist won't be the same as what the leg holes need to be. And I'm like, you'll either be like this fucking super loose waist, but the leg holes fit right. Or you're wearing something that your waist fits right but you are like actively cutting off like circ like your femoral artery is being constricted by the underwear so i feel that okay i'm gonna look into that yeah it's good it's good try it yeah yeah yeah i have four pairs of uh boxer brief twins that are uh of all underwear just four pairs so i have four that are like recent and you know i
Starting point is 00:22:47 really like those and will do laundry to get those and then i have like 20 pairs that are like disintegrating yeah that i don't like totally i'm i need to change those out but i is that okay quick question for the this triumvirate we have here. Is this due to watching your father wear disintegrated underwear? Because my dad, one of my earliest memories has been like, I think my dad is in a bad place because his underwear is disintegrating. And I remember early on, my mom was like, you need new underwear. But he was like, no, it's fine but he was like no it's fine it's
Starting point is 00:23:25 fine it's fine and i'm like looking like the second you said that i was having a moment where i looked at a pair of under and i thought no i i get a few more of these yeah and i don't know why but i don't know if that's learned or not no it wasn't learned for me my dad was on top of his underwear game and just uh you know that apple fell real far from the tree yeah i think it is also the fact that no one sees it really you know what i mean where if you had a tattered shirt you would people be like this guy's like is yeah in a bad place they're not doing well you know but like tattered underwear it's like well you know it's still not necessarily uncomfortable but you know recently i was like you know what you have worked hard enough for a long enough
Starting point is 00:24:09 that you don't need to have like this b team of like rags you know what i mean like in the thing so but but jack i can totally relate to what you're saying as well yeah it's just a thing like i don't think about i guess i just rock the vaporware sometimes you know just falling apart thread bear barely hanging on to the waistband and then sometimes i've like rage ripped them up while they're on wow yeah it's like it's almost like anger at yeah it's like being in one of those like porcelain smashing rooms ripping off your own underwear like like i've done that with a t-shirt before that is actually very satisfying it's very childish on a t-shirt yeah but like shredding your underwear off too i don't know wait do you
Starting point is 00:24:51 have your pants on while you're shredding it off so you just like pull it it's a trick oh yeah yeah yeah absolutely that's how i used to do on most of my first dates yeah that's the closer he called that that's that's how he closed the deal he'd tear off his own underwear and i mean you knew very quickly that was someone to be like so put off by it that it ended there or they would lie about being put off and say that they had an appointment that they forgot they had those were the only two scenarios yeah oh i have an appointment or someone's like oh my god no what is that all right let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about the news how do you feel about this kids hi i'm akilah hughes and i'm so excited about my new podcast
Starting point is 00:25:42 rebel spirit where i head back to my hometown in hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader. You choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies, when the civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools. These charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash.
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Starting point is 00:29:23 at katiecouric.com slash good taste. That's K-A-T-I-E-C-O-U-R-I-C dot com slash good taste. I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. And we're back. And Mark Zuckerberg, you know, there's been a lot of negative talk, negative Nellies out here in the news talking trash about Facebook. And Mark Zuckerberg apparently just found out about it. And he's like, huh? How is this? This is not the company that I know.
Starting point is 00:30:02 No. So he has decided to post on, looks like on Facebook to defend the company that i know no so he has decided to post on looks like on facebook to defend the company and yeah he just sounds like he is a dictator who's just can't just through like sheer will is trying to convince people that none none of these problems exist? No. Nothing. It's very much a gaslight job like on his own employees because these people, they're doing the fucking work, fool. These aren't just like lemmings
Starting point is 00:30:35 who are like, please give us our, like if you're working in these different departments like Francis Haugen was, they know exactly what's going on because he's saying these people are like
Starting point is 00:30:44 in a lot of these other subgroups are getting upset that there isn't action so he's saying look his first part of the letter is him talking about like oh that was a big boner on monday huh with whatsapp going down and then he's like i'm sure many of you have found the recent coverage hard to read because it just doesn't reflect the company we know and again he, he will not reference Francis Haugen or refer to a whistleblower or anything of that nature. Quote, we care deeply about issues like safety, well-being and mental health. It's difficult to see coverage that misrepresents our work and our motives at the most basic level. I think most of us just don't recognize the false picture of the company that is being painted. Oh, I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 He goes on to say many of the claims don't make any sense. If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create an industry leading research program to understand these important issues in the first place? If we didn't care about fighting harmful content, then why would we employ so many more people dedicated to this than any other company in our space? Even ones larger than us? I'm sorry. Who is larger than them? I mean, the social media space. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:53 What? Google, I guess because of ads. Maybe that's if they're looking as an ad business. But even then, I don't. That's a weird claim. Even, you know, even the bigger guys are doing stuff not as good as us. Like, you're the fucking giant of the land i love that he got a brag in there too you know like whenever someone's
Starting point is 00:32:10 writing an apology and they find a way to brag as well we have industry leading research yeah just yeah you don't have to put that in there but it's funny because there's allegations about how research has been wound down and francis haugen was even saying that like, they're like, and Amy Klobuchar, they're both touching on this fact that some of the data is not available to people who are actually trying to research a lot of this shit. So that's not really true, Mark.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And also like, yeah, just having a research body doesn't mean you're doing it to fucking like Exxon was researching global warming. That doesn't, they're not it to fucking like exxon was researching global warming that doesn't they're not a hard be like why would we have industry leading research it's because they have to know what the fuck their product does in the real world and they're just like okay fucking don't talk about that shit yeah so based on like all the reading about in like the internal dynamics of
Starting point is 00:33:00 facebook they do the research they hire people like Haugen who do the research and make these recommendations. And it's not usually I don't think they fire them. They just ignore the fuck out of them and promote the people who come up with ways to, you know, increase engagement. Like it's just it's a very passive way of just, you know, dealing with a problem by not dealing with it. Right. Speaking of research body, if I was to describe Mark Zuckerberg's physique, I'd call it a research body. Like that's how he looks. His other defense is also really lame. He says, quote, and if social media was responsible for polarizing society, as some people claim,
Starting point is 00:33:44 then why are we seeing polarization increase in the U.S. while it stays flat or declines in many countries with just as heavy use of social media around the world? Well, maybe because you've been here longest. Yeah. It's a matter of time because it's not like you haven't seen like other political unrest explode out of people using facebook so i don't exactly know what his claim is because he's clearly avoiding things like ethnic cleansing that would be organized via facebook because that's not polarizing it's just another very selective bit of data he's using to defend himself when i think it's just clear that he's desperate and this is all looks just fucking terrible yeah and i like i do think that is probably an effective line of argumentation because it's true that like social media isn't the only reason that polarization is increasing
Starting point is 00:34:39 in the u.s but i don't know it's just very it is an ingredient. And also, like you said, there have been plenty of incidents where it escalated wildly and incredibly dangerously in other countries. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, people are like, have you looked in what's going on in, you know, Myanmar? Okay, whatever. We'll just look away from the glaring lights. And then this other one is just fantastic.
Starting point is 00:35:12 The argument that we deliberately push content that makes people angry for profit is deeply illogical. We make money from ads. And advertisers consistently tell us they don't want their ads next to harmful or angry content and i don't know any tech company that sets out to build products that make people angry or depressed the moral business and product incentives all point in the opposite direction okay that may be but i'm not sure again this is another thing where of course advertisers aren't like yeah man put my shit next to like the most violent fucking video. The whole thing is you go to Facebook because of clicks.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Any advertiser online goes to a media property for clicks or engagement. And like just as Francis Haugen said, more engagement is the thing that you can hold up in front of people who are trying to buy ads and they go, oh, fuck. Yeah. So it's popping over there. That's where I'm trying to put my advertiser, where there's a lot of activity. So even this one, it's just so deeply illogical that this would. How could that occur? Yeah, it's easy to recategorize like things like that and be like, well, that's not designed to make people angry. They're interested
Starting point is 00:36:25 in it for this other reason like that's it's just such a vague explanation for like that allows them to just sort of recategorize things and let themselves off the hook yeah it's also a very inhuman response to a deeply human issue you know what what I mean? Where like these issues that people, like the collateral damage that social media does are mental, it's mental health. It's deeply human issues. And when you respond to it in such an analytical, you know, like computerized way,
Starting point is 00:36:58 like completely, yeah, it just shows the exact problem in the situation. Like, well, no, the money comes in and that business is doing well and we're not actively trying to do yeah maybe not deliberately but right it's you're the way things are set up that's where you're incentivized so what what are you saying here but the last paragraph is like sounds like some evil villain that runs this dystopian society. Oh, wait. Maybe that is just him. He says, quote,
Starting point is 00:37:28 When I reflect on our work, I think about the real impact we have on the world. The people who can now stay in touch with their loved ones, create opportunities to support themselves, and find community. This is why billions of people love our products. I'm proud of everything we do to keep building the best social products in the world and grateful to all of you for the work you do here every day. There you go. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Okay. Well, you know, I'm really curious to see what his inner thought process is around this, because I'm sure that Richard Blumenthal thing was like, yeah, Zark, Zark, Zark Muckerberg. Yeah, Zark, Zark, Zark Muckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg needs to get in here and explain a lot of these things out loud and not just be like a senator. That's highly illogical to say that. So I don't know what that would look like, but it's it's hard. I don't know how you dance around really direct questions given Francis Hogan's testimony. Hogan's testimony. And to just equate the fact that they get money for ads and advertisers
Starting point is 00:38:27 keep paying with their not being a social problem is just so... It's just the most base level. Market makes good. Everything good gets market bucks.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And the thing that they, the reason that they are so dominant in advertising is the level of data that they've collected about anyone. It has nothing to do with like why people are on the site in the first place. Like they have unprecedented amounts of information and like these psychological profiles of people that are, you know, things that if you had told an advertiser about 20 years ago, they would have fucking shot in their pants.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Like it's the best thing that they could possibly imagine. Right. And yeah, the fact that people are willing to pay for that has nothing to do with like the idea that you're doing it for the right reason or using it in a non-evil way sorry for the shot in the pants thing i was just picturing don draper just hearing about facebook and you know the what oh my god yeah truly a shot in the pants let's talk about um january 6th commission or the congressional January 6th committee, because there are some pretty key players. Dan Scavino, Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Kash Patel, who are all Trumpers that have been subpoenaed to testify in front of the congressional January 6th committee. And they're just like kind of ignoring it.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yeah. And they're just like kind of ignoring it. Yeah. They're just like, well, they say like everyone except Dan Scavino they think has been served. But apparently Dan Scavino is just acting like a regular old Prince Andrew in his attempts to duck process servers and just go into like a hidey hole to be like, I don't know anything about him. So you have to serve someone else. be like i don't know anything about him so you'll have to serve someone else but despite all of that happening it looks like even if they're served their game plan is just to fucking ignore the subpoenas because trump told them to and there's you know the same thing blah blah blah executive privilege do they have a plan there's like in this guardian article people like doesn't really seem
Starting point is 00:40:41 like there's a plan here more so that they would probably just try and run out the fucking clock and hope the Republicans take the House back by the midterms. And then what January 6th commission are we talking about? Yeah. So a bit of a cynical play from them. But I expect nothing less from people who are, you know, hell bent on just, you know, overturning an election. But yeah, you know, people in the committee though, have said from the beginning, like this isn't going to be the same as like when Trump was in the white house, how we're going to handle executive privilege. Sure. Mark Meadows and Scavino, they definitely worked in the West wing. So there is an element there of executive privilege, but in, in terms of
Starting point is 00:41:21 like using that to like not comply with this subpoena there, they have been saying like we will issue criminal referrals like if we if if we're being ignored. I hope that's what happens. Part of me just looking at the data set of the American legal system and how powerful white men are able to get away with anything. I'm a little bit worried that that might not happen. But it also seems like, you know, many of the people on the committee are really interested in at least trying to find some semblance of accountability. But it's like one of those things where you just kind of like, well, wait and see, I guess. Yes. Speaking of powerful white men, I had a very scary situation recently where i saw steve bannon wearing the same coat that i own and it was absolutely horrifying where i was really really excited about my new coat and then saw steve bannon wearing it was a barber coat wearing the same brand i'm like well i don't know what the fuck to know what i think about anything anymore to be true i don't know
Starting point is 00:42:23 i guess if i have the same fashion sense as that pig i should probably just let someone else shop for me oh man it's a cool coat you are wearing three uh three colored shirts right now on top of each other only the middle collars popped the others are appropriately uh pressed down, he really loves that coat, huh? It's disgusting. I feel like he has on like 5J crew outfits at any given time, just like on top of each other.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah. I guess it maybe looks more ballin' if you wear like multiple pieces of clothing. Just so you know, you may have $300 worth of clothing on, but I have $7,000 worth of clothing on because I'm so you know like you may you may have three hundred dollars worth of clothing on but i have seven thousand dollars worth of clothing because i'm wearing 14 shirts and 13 pairs of pants yeah so he's actually a very slender man we just couldn't tell because of he's in great shape you never know yeah i've been wearing the whole time just big fear of his losing his clothes this big greatest fear that in a brown in a brown america
Starting point is 00:43:28 his greatest fears are doing the right thing is number one and losing his losing all my clothes just a serious interview and like i mean it's it's i know it may sound weird but if you've ever lost all your clothes it's it's a frightening prospect and i just want to allow myself i just want a lot of that to happen to me steve what happened what how did you lose your clothes i went to a wedding look they lost my baggage i had to wear a suit that was a little too baggy for me and it was just ever since then i vowed to always wear on my clothes people kept talking about the emperor has new the emperor's new clothes around like around the trump administration he finally read it and was like oh no went the opposite direction yeah just in case some of these are invisible i want to guarantee
Starting point is 00:44:19 no one sees me naked yeah so i put 14 shirts all right let's take a another quick break and we will be right back to talk havana syndrome havana good time how do you feel about biscuits hi i'm akilah hughes and i'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's right here in black and white in print. They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. In the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that.
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Starting point is 00:48:54 of the attacks that have been described as Havana syndrome, that the attacks should be in quotes because they found what we had suspected, what a lot of people have talked about, that the noises that they were associating with the attacks should be in quotes because they found what we had suspected, what a lot of people have talked about, that the noises that they were associating with the attacks that first happened
Starting point is 00:49:10 in Havana were crickets. And it was a declassified like State Department study. So it's not, this isn't like an outside researcher. This is like what they have learned themselves. researcher. This is like what they have learned themselves. Now, around this time, the Biden administration had started referring to Havana syndrome as unexplained health incidents, which kind of suggested they were backing off of the idea that they were deliberate attacks from, you know, adversaries. But because that became a story, they now have issued a new report that seemed to back in, like jump back into the this is an attack camp because the people who are suffering the symptoms believe that they were attacked and that they're very sensitive, understandably, about. Because we're in their country attacking them right exactly so you very much would be on pins and needles the fuck oh okay i'm just i'm just a nurse that's all i am not a cia op but yeah the this miami herald piece about like the new this
Starting point is 00:50:21 new direction quotes a and the this is a trend senior administration official but no name we need to believe our personnel who are coming forward people are facing real symptoms we are very conscious that people are experiencing something very real and it's having a real negative effect on their health health and we're seeing better health outcomes the sooner we can respond to that so it's like they're trying to treat it as though it's a real thing because it is, as we've talked about, functional disorders. Like they're the real thing that these people are experiencing real symptoms. They're not just making them up, but that it is probably a neurological and, you know, a stress-based thing. And that is the thing that explanation is very offensive to
Starting point is 00:51:08 anybody who is suffering from this and so there's this new article from jacobin that just kind of puts this in the context of a bunch of different stories over the course of like the last 25 years that have been kind of adopted and just repeated by the mainstream media because they are you know they go in the direction of like helping america maintain an aggressive foreign policy. So they start with the Havana syndrome reporting and just like all the different headlines that flatly state that Cuba attacked U.S. diplomats, which, you know, are generally CIA agents. And, you know, pointing out that any time somebody is quoted, it's always they're always quoted on background or they're quoted as like a unidentified administration official. And they point out like this happened immediately after Trump indicated that they were
Starting point is 00:52:14 going, his administration was going to go like hard in the opposite direction of the Obama administration and start being like really hostile towards Cuba. And then this event happened and they seized on it and started ramping up their negative foreign policy. But they kind of put it in the context of, you know, the New York Times, all these mainstream media outlets trusting military officials on things like Russiagate, which, in addition to being hostile towards Trump, was also allowed the military to make Russia seem more dangerous. And, you know, with a lot of the Iran reporting towards the end of the Trump administration, because they were trying to justify a case for war. When they're holding up shards of things, they're like, this says Iran on it. I don't know if what you want to do with that. Maybe do a war. I don't know. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I can cook up some other evidence. Yeah. We don't have a pattern of doing that at all in this country. Yeah. But it just reminds me of like the, you know, we talk about the news relying on police sources and especially like for the local news and like, you know, the guys with guns are the sources that they
Starting point is 00:53:25 need to satisfy like audience bloodlust and like their willingness to chase that bloodlust makes it so that we live in a world that we think is more dangerous and keeps people tuning in and it also just creates this sort of feedback loop where you know the version of like the world that exists in the minds of the military and the police gets like filtered back to us over and over again and it's just you know why why is that like after the most catastrophic like mistake in the you know recent history of america going to war in iraq was like turned out to be based on a complete lie you'd think that the mainstream media would have like altered their approach a little bit and been a little bit more willing to pump the brakes on shit like this but
Starting point is 00:54:18 it just seems like that is as currently constituted like unless something kind of dramatically changes the mainstream media will let the military feed them you know bullshit right so i think that the tolerance for bullshit stories from the pentagon is higher because they're all they all have a relationship with each other you know it's like you have a homie who may bend the truth from time to time you're like okay all right that wasn't the best thing, but we're still good because I know you. And it's the same thing. Like you'll get burned by just straight up misinformation from the Pentagon. And still it's like, no, it's all good. Like, don't worry about it. Like we got to keep this thing going, you know, General Electric and the Pentagon do some good business together. And we're
Starting point is 00:55:02 also NBC. So, you know, well, let's let's business together and we're also NBC. We're not going to make it too hot for anybody. Can I be honest about this before we move on? Just real quick. I think this Havana syndrome is Jamaican me crazy. Gotta go. Havana, tough time. Get him out. I'm having a tough time
Starting point is 00:55:22 with this Havana syndrome. I swear to God. I'm being serious i know it's i know that's the problem that's the problem oh man yeah i mean so many reporters like get into the game because they would like want to be war correspondents like they have that like kind of you know they grew up on the idea of like going to vietnam and being a reporter on that or you know and it just you know as blake i think you were suggesting is jamaican them crazy it is and that's exactly not even suggesting just what i was pointedly saying i think there's no room for
Starting point is 00:56:02 interpretation there yeah in college i had a i took a class called war reporting and my professor was a former like embedded journalist and he would never he would always just show us movies and we would never like it's like why like you have the most interesting story in the world why wouldn't you just teach us and then one day there was this girl in class like who just maybe like laid in a little too hard being like all you do is show us movies like why don't you actually instruct us and tell us what it was like being there and a 45 minute story of one of the most emotionally traumatizing things i've ever heard in my entire life the one time he ever told a story about his time in war, about how his guide was like murdered right in front of him.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And then the whole class was like completely silent. And he goes, yeah, all right, I think we're done for the day. And then he, and we're like, never asked him to talk about it again.
Starting point is 00:56:57 We just watch movies for the rest of the semester because it was that it's like, yeah, that's why he doesn't talk about it. You know what I mean? Anyway, just random side note. But seriously, that made me sane.
Starting point is 00:57:07 The joke doesn't work when you change it. That made me sane. You can workshop that one. We'll work on it and come back, report back to Zayk. No, that's the final form. Okay. Yeah, yeah. No, that's fine. I think it'll stand. Just give it a few years. Yeah, yeah. We'll just...
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Starting point is 00:57:34 they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll it's begun. Fauci said in an interview that it's just too soon to tell whether holiday gatherings will need to be restricted due to the pandemic for a second year in a row,
Starting point is 00:57:53 which is a... There he goes. It doesn't really say anything. It's like a non-answer that doesn't really offer any specifics for what kind of restrictions they might put in place but right-wing media you know i i guess the fact that he was willing to answer a question like enraged right-wing media the national review wrote an article calling him a grinch and you know the fox and friends labeled fauci a grinch because they you know that was too good not to repurpose yeah right it's october it's october they they're talking grinch and claimed that he was about to cancel christmas based on his statement that it's too soon to tell that i i it's a seems fully fabricated. it's harder to order presents for people or, you know, due to climate change,
Starting point is 00:59:07 there are fewer Christmas trees available. And, you know, there's a shortage of truck drivers because as their wages have declined over the years, there's just been a problem with finding enough people to do that job. As the New York Times pointed out, it takes a peculiar form of logic to cut pay steadily and then be shocked that fewer people want to do the job. But that's what happened in the truck driving industry. And also because of slowdowns in manufacturing, there has been a slowdown in the production of fake Christmas trees. So these are all things that rent shit.
Starting point is 00:59:49 The real spirit of Christmas. Yeah. And they don't they don't they're have all of your like most of your unvaccinated base take airplanes to congregate because that, you know, they're already like getting freaked out by the demographics of how like the pandemic is affecting things. folks don't worry about any kind of spiking cases just do your thing y'all i it's i don't know this is just it's watch it's it's fun watching them get so outraged and i mean so were there things in place that like actually stopped people from congregating or was it just like advice last year? Like in like guidance, right? Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that. I like,
Starting point is 01:00:53 I'm so confused what they like at the height of the pandemic. They just offered guidance. They're like, okay, big brother. Nice try. Asshole. Oh, you said it's,
Starting point is 01:01:01 it's an advisable to gather with elderly family and when there aren't vaccines. OK. Yeah. OK. Yeah. I don't know. It's yeah. They were just merely guidelines. But I think most people, because they were able to look around in their communities or just the news and be like, OK, so this is real. And there's the potential for untold harm for people that I will I will heed these guidelines. Yeah, I mean, J.M., our writer, J.M. McNabb, was pointing out that like this actually kind of obscures how, you know, focusing on the idea that he merely mentioned that he might at one point consider giving some travel advisories around Christmas. He might at one point consider giving some travel advisories around Christmas. Like, so that caused him to backtrack. And he was Fauci was like, no, you misinterpreted me.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I'll be spending Christmas with my family, which is like fucking right. Again, way too soon to tell whether that's a good idea or not. The CDC uploaded their their 2021 holiday guidance to their website which was picked up by multiple news outlets uh but then they deleted it because they had actually put up last year's holiday guidance instead of this year's and they haven't figured out what their guidance is going to be in 2021 fucking it's just a position for them to be in where they're like oh fuck don't say don't give them real advice or else they're going to accuse us of stuff. So let's water it the fuck down. Yeah, because the situation is just so.
Starting point is 01:02:33 My uncle is a big Fox News person, and I gave him I put like he's a bad guy. So I put coal in his stocking and then he pulled it out and he's like, this is such a great gift. This is my favorite fuel source so don't give Fox News people coal in their stockings because they'll completely misinterpret it as a gift did he take a bite out of it too he's like oh you don't think I will you don't think I will watch this
Starting point is 01:02:56 Blake like a jawbreaker over the course of the next three days joke you asshole my ulcer oh god oh god yeah but i mean the big news story of the day is really uh of yesterday i guess that that the zodiac killer has finally been identified according to tmz, you know, all the other main news sources, Fox News.
Starting point is 01:03:27 So a group of researchers ID'd someone named Gary Francis Post, who died in 2018 as the Zodiac Killer. The degree to which this got picked up would have suggested it was like a law enforcement agency that had like done some some sort of dna linkage um but they so they're made this group is made up of former investigators and journalists so essentially volunteers acting in no official capacity they called the case breakers right they're called the case breakers and they want one of their like key theories is that post also killed sherry joe bates in 1966 whose death was followed by a zodiac like letter and this is strange because the the
Starting point is 01:04:17 police were sent a zodiac like letter so it's not like nobody entertained this idea that it was that was from the zodiac killer and her murder was part of the zodiac killings but they looked into it and the letter was revealed to be a hoax and an actual cold case units have already like investigated that that case and concluded that the murder is not connected to the zodiac case So they're just like putting out a theory that most people believe to have been widely disproven and saying, well, here's your evidence. And then there's also like the evidence
Starting point is 01:04:54 that they're pointing to are photos from Post's dark room actually match scars on the police sketch of the Zodiac killer, which it's just creases. It's just lines on the forehead. Yeah. It's just creases in a forehead. Oh no. Oh no. Come on, case breakers. Come with something heavier than this.
Starting point is 01:05:15 They also claim that they deciphered new code in the Zodiac letters that could only be cracked if you know Gary's full name. But they're not revealing that just yet they they want to they're being proprietary about their solution where are they the fucking cyber ninjas my pillow voting audit like what the fuck is it oh we go we got it can't show you we just can't show nobody right now it's too explosive tom colbert who is one of the main case breakers his former job
Starting point is 01:05:47 was working for a hard copy so i mean he knows how to do a good tease hell yeah people you know but uh he was also a story broker which is somebody who like buys up compelling stories and like sells them to people to make movies he sold the story rights for fly away home and the Val. Um, so, so, you know, like real hardcore grizzled,
Starting point is 01:06:12 uh, crime solving shit. Yeah. Gumshoe shit. Yeah. And yeah, it just feels weird that this is one that any news outlet, even if it's just TDZ, has seized on and been like,
Starting point is 01:06:25 solved? The reason I just started wheezing and laughing is I'm following along in your document that you guys use. Oh, sorry to show a behind-the-scenes look at the show. This is all coming from the top of my head, Blake. You're right. It's all loose scraps I keep by my desk.
Starting point is 01:06:41 This is the document that I, the 126-page document that I made for the show. And the case breaker team had, which I can't believe I just said without laughing my way through it, but at case breaker team, I'm like, Oh, it says eight following two followers on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:06:58 You have a screen grab of it. Like, Oh, this is probably taken from a few weeks and now they have 14 followers. So yeah, we're in, we're in the same place. Yeah, it's trending.
Starting point is 01:07:07 It's trending. So basically they're saying that the case breakers, the evidence that they're working with has been debunked. So they're like, this is already built on like a false premise because you're already using debunked, like you're trying to connect dots that really aren't there. you're already using debunked like you're trying to connect dots that really aren't there yeah i mean unless you like look at look at the those forehead wrinkles man i'm just saying like those are pretty well they better come with that info that they say they they're ready to decipher all
Starting point is 01:07:38 the letters because we have to know his full name and only we do i mean okay i how many people did the zodiac killer kill exactly that's information that they have to proprietary as well yeah so you'd have to ask them yeah they're holding back on uh they say you'll never believe what we found out about how many victims zodiac five claim he wait claimed to have killed 37 five confirmed dead but possibly 20 to 28 okay interesting just another example of their work on a famous story where people are you know very horny to identify a historical figure is colbert got interested in the db cooper case and that's the bank robber right yeah so db cooper was a bank robber who hijacked a plane and then jumped out of said plane after like you know making everybody turn around i guess uh or go go into the cockpit anyways it's it's a
Starting point is 01:08:43 people think that he probably didn't survive jumping out of the plane, but it's very mysterious. They never found the body. And he thought he had figured out that it was this guy, Robert Rackstraw. And so Colbert approached Rackstraw, offered him $20,000 to participate. And when he refused,
Starting point is 01:09:04 Colbert threatened to have him hounded forever and then he started catfishing Rackstraw who then in turn reverse catfished Colbert and yeah it just seems like real real top level you know
Starting point is 01:09:20 mature mature and you know top level investigative shit going on someone who's clearly not just trying to get the thing over the line by any means necessary true dedication to the truth unflinching you know rather than like oh fuck your life up if you don't admit you're db cooper so i can sell the rights to this yeah so that's that's the story of how the Zodiac Killer was saw was identified. Well, I'm glad to know that all the people who are talking about it now I can finally actually every fucking tweet I see now. story of the zodiac killer is saying like there's they could be right about who it is but publishing articles like definitively claiming the zodiac case has come to an end based on these people's
Starting point is 01:10:10 work it seems a little premature like i've read the story the headlines then like i i've looked at the article and they were talking about these case breakers like they were a known quantity that like i should be familiar with and the fact that they have 14 followers, 15 now that I'm following them, is wild. They do have their own logo, which is not nothing. Right. Yeah. It's kind of huge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:38 It looks like Charles Barkley's signature shoe logo. Right. Is that a 34 in there? Yes. As always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you? The pleasure is all mine. And I can share it with you if you'd like.
Starting point is 01:10:56 But I yeah, I love being here. I always love doing this. I'm a huge fan of you guys. You can find me at Blake Wexler on everything. Every Wednesday in Philadelphia, I do a show at St. Stephen's Green and then I have an exclusive for you guys I have not announced this anywhere but
Starting point is 01:11:12 wet exclusive we have on November 18th in Charleston I'm recording my first one hour special so at Theater 99 one hour stand up special November 18th at 8 p.m so uh yeah very have not didn't even announce it on my own goddamn podcast blake's thanks for god's
Starting point is 01:11:31 sake so yeah but anyway that's uh that's coming in november november 18th nice right coming south cac and uh is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, there's a tweet from a at case breaker team and it's, no, the tweet is from Laurie Kilmartin at any Laurie 16. And she tweeted a picture of a Kieran Culkin's character and Jerry from secession holding one another. And Laurie just wrote a moving toward this stage of my life. It was very, very fun.
Starting point is 01:12:08 But yeah, she's an incredible comedian, writer. Miles, where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also the other show, 420 Day Fiance. Check us out at twitch.tv slash 420 Day Fiance 420 with Sophie Alexandra. Talking about 90 day, 420 day fiance check us out at twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance 420 with sophie alexandra talking about 90 day some tweets that i like wow let's see first one is from at 1-800 viagra you're in
Starting point is 01:12:36 his dms good for you girl he's easy go get him let's love that spin on it. Another one is from at brow tweet. B-R-O-W-T-W-E-A-T-E-N tweeting. Caterpillar walks snake. Okay. What? Caterpillar grows wings snake. Okay. What?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Stupid. And then one more from a listener. DJ baby bok choy at CR underscore B-O-R-O-N tweeted, not Miles and Jack roasting me alive because showed all your Starbucks collector's mugs like just sitting on this shelf. No shade. I love the Star Wars based ones. But yeah, it's a real movement.
Starting point is 01:13:19 The Starbucks collector game. They kept going and going. I was blown away. I fully turned around on this and I'm now in completely supportive of anybody's decision to collect those cups. Just don't pay resale.
Starting point is 01:13:35 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Jamie Loftus helped tweet it. I'm in the phase of getting my shit together where i'm adding a second ingredient to pasta which is a very specific phase we've all been to uh and blank patch tweeted why does spell check no mcconaughey but not fuck i have never spelled matthew mcconaughey's last name correctly no it's now now hey that's how i yeah now gee the fuck out of here with that yeah and if you want to Matthew McConaughey's last name correctly. No. It's. Now. Now. Hey.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Yeah. Now. Fuck out of here with that. And if you want to add fuck, just put it in your one of your contacts. Oh. It knows. Interesting. If you want to fuck or fuck in all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah. Rather than duck or duck in. Quick tip for the people who constantly curse and then get mad at the auto correct because it's like it's like duck auto correct duck and then all caps fuck yeah get added to your contact yeah fuck fuck fucking all right well you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Starting point is 01:14:55 as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Song? Hey, there you go. Miles, what song are we sending people to go check out? This is a track called The Story of a Girl I was saying, this is the story of a girl
Starting point is 01:15:10 around the whole world No, this is the story of a song called Runway Talk and it's by Khalil Blue featuring Mavie Dawg It's just a dope, you know, just rap from the 21st century I'm coming out
Starting point is 01:15:26 of my golden era hip hop cave more and more and just really ingesting as much like new rap as possible. And I just like, again, just like yesterday's track, Armor. I really like this, the production on this. And I just like the flow. I like the swag. I just like it all. So, and I think you will too, if you like some some little you know some some new some uh genre breaking hip-hop so this is runway talk by khalil blue all right well the daily is that you guys is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning but we are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we'll talk to
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