The Daily - The Spectacular Rise and Fall of WeWork

Episode Date: November 18, 2019

It was one of the most valuable start-ups in the United States, with bold plans to revolutionize how and where people worked around the world. Today, we look at how the dream of WeWork crumbled — an...d explore the story of the man responsible for the wreckage.Guest: Amy Chozick, a writer at large for The New York Times covering the personalities and power struggles in business, politics and media.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading:Adam Neumann had an inexplicably persuasive charisma and a taste for risk. Then he found a kindred spirit with an open checkbook.WeWork is preparing to eliminate at least 4,000 employees, cutting nearly a third of its work force in an effort to staunch further financial losses.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From The New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is The Daily. Today, it was the most valuable startup in the United States, with plans to revolutionize how and where people around the world worked. Amy Chozek on the spectacular rise and fall of WeWork and the story of the man behind it all. It's Monday, November 18th. Amy, I wonder if you could read this letter that WeWork employees sent to their bosses. Sure. Here's what they wrote.
Starting point is 00:00:47 To the We Company management team, WeWork's company values encourage us to be entrepreneurial, inspired, authentic, tenacious, grateful, and together. Today, we are embracing these qualities wholeheartedly as we band together to ensure the well-being of our peers. Thousands of us will be laid off in the coming weeks, but we want our time here to have meant something. We don't want to be defined by the scandals, the corruption, and the greed exhibited by the company's leadership. We want to leave behind a legacy that represents the true character
Starting point is 00:01:22 and intentions of WeWork employees. In the immediate term, we want those being laid off to be provided fair and reasonable separation terms commensurate with their contributions, including severance pay, continuation of company-paid health insurance, and compensation for lost equity. It's a pretty grim letter. It is. So how did WeWork get to this point? What's the story here? Co-founder and CEO of WeWork, Adam Neumann. So the story of WeWork really starts with a man named Adam Neumann. Growing up in Israel, watching American television and movies, I believed that the American dream is get a degree, get a great job, have lots of fun, make lots of money. He was born in Israel. He moved to New York.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I majored in entrepreneurship and marketing. And he started all of these sort of fly-by-night entrepreneurial ideas. One of them was... It was going to be a women's high heel shoe with a collapsible heel. Women's high heels with collapsible heels. Another was... For storage. No, because it's uncomfortable, Michael, to walk around in heels all day. So you collapse them when you're going down subway stairs.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And this is definitely not my passion. And I came up with my second great idea. Crawlers with a cave. Crawlers was baby pants with knee pads on them to protect the baby's knees for the crawling age. Knee pads for crawling babies. The slogan was, Just because they don't tell you doesn't mean they don't hurt. Of course, the business was a tremendous failure. So he settles on co-working.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And in 2010, started WeWork. WeWork is a leader in the business of renting out spaces to entrepreneurs. And it was a very specific time to be in the co-working business. There were a lot of people who had a lot of startup ideas. Silicon Valley was booming. And it was a very specific time to be in the co-working business. There were a lot of people who had a lot of startup ideas. Silicon Valley was booming. And you needed a place to work outside your parents' basement, right? It lets people rent out a desk or a private office equipped with amenities like internet, coffee, and spacious common areas.
Starting point is 00:03:39 They were sleek. They had community space, sofas all over the place for team building. There was cold brew, kombucha, Taco Tuesdays. There was beer and wine on tap. Instead of going out for a drink, you'd stay at the office. It really came to symbolize the kind of startup entrepreneurial hustle of millennials. In other words, this kind of space was perfectly timed for a generation of people who didn't see themselves as office workers, millennials. In other words, this kind of space was perfectly timed for a generation of people who
Starting point is 00:04:05 didn't see themselves as office workers, but as individual businesses and entrepreneurs who needed a place to do that. Exactly. We work as the office space of tomorrow. The future is about light, innovation, creativity. It's going from me to we. We give you space that will inspire you, uplift you, and help you innovate the products of tomorrow. So in Adam's mind, this was a community company. His mission was to elevate the world's consciousness. He would talk about this. So he grew up partly on a kibbutz in Israel, and he would talk about it as a capitalist kibbutz. It was this mix of like capitalistic hustle with this yearning for communal meaning. Adam Neumann would say that he wanted WeWork to create a world where people don't just make a living, they make a life.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And they make a life in these WeWork offices. Exactly. The thing Adam Neumann is really best at is communicating his vision, convincing people that he can change the way we work and live. He fully adopted the persona of the Iconoclast startup founder. And he looks the part. You know, it's six foot five
Starting point is 00:05:18 with flowing brown hair. You know, people looked up to him when he walked in a meeting. People literally paid attention to him. But the most important person who bought into his vision is a Japanese executive, the head of a company called SoftBank. The thing is, you know, I have a vision. Called Masayoshi-san. Everyone calls him Masa. We go and change the world together.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Masa's company oversees something called the Vision Fund. Thinking about what is the future, how we can change the life of people for the better humanity. This is the largest tech investment fund in the world. They have $100 billion to play with, largely
Starting point is 00:05:59 from the Saudis who want to diversify away from oil and invest in tech. And Masa is this very interesting character who's always trusted his gut. One of the investments you made is considered by many people to be the most successful investment in the history of mankind. You invested roughly $20 million in Alibaba. And at the time it went public, it was worth roughly $90 billion. What is it that made you feel this was worth putting in $20 million? Well, he had no business plan. But his eyes were very strong, strong eyes, strong, shining eyes.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I could tell. And so he meets Adam Neumann. Adam Neumann gives Massa a tour of his offices. This includes the right soundtrack in the background and all the sleek office space and virtual reality renderings of WeWork office space in the future. So you could wear these glasses and feel like you're standing in Tokyo or Shanghai, right down to looking out the street and seeing the scene that you would see from the offices. And this really blows Mas' mind.
Starting point is 00:07:09 He loves this vision. He loves Adam's energy. You know, both WeWork and SoftBank Vision Fund are shoot-the-moon operations. So after a 12-minute tour of the WeWork offices and Adam Newman's vision. Basically both willing to make humongous bets and they're sort of, you know, enabling one another. Masa-san invests over $4 billion in WeWork. And by the way, I work in a WeWork, so WeWorks are good. I hear they have good drinks on tap, David. They do. Look.
Starting point is 00:07:43 This is an enormous investment. And he doesn't say, Adam, I need you to be a very careful steward of this extremely important investment. Be careful with my money. Instead, he says, I need you to go crazier. I need you to do more. I need you to explore your wildest visions. He says that. He says, go as far as you can with this. And need you to explore your wildest visions. He says that.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He says go as far as you can with this, and there's more money where this came from. So just how wild does Adam Neumann go with this $4 billion investment? So we're at WeWork in Austin, Texas right now. He started opening WeWorks all over the country. My new office at the Crystal City WeWork that just opened up today. Every major American city Crystal City WeWork that just opened up today. Every major American city had a WeWork. My new office space, which is in the WeWork in Long Beach, California. And then he expanded massively abroad. I feel like I remember this moment because I woke up one day and had a long walk around Manhattan and there was a WeWork at every single turn.
Starting point is 00:08:43 The Lurden Taylor building. Absolutely. They became ubiquitous. WeWork now has 45 million square feet of real estate. It's the largest private landlord in New York, Washington, and London. Wow. And then giant companies started also moving their employees into WeWork offices, thinking it's a draw for employees to work in these spaces. Like which companies? Verizon, Salesforce, IBM all moved a lot of employees into WeWork these spaces. Like which companies? Verizon, Salesforce, IBM, all moved a lot of employees into WeWork office spaces. This is the point when Adam really leans into Mas' advice, which is to go wild, pursue your craziest dreams.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He opens a WeLive apartment building and wants to expand that. He says these are places that will have community and cut down on the suicide rate because people never feel alone. He was talking about WeGrow, and he and his wife opened a school in downtown Manhattan. There was WeBank. There was WeSail. There was WeSleep. There was talk of an airline. WeFly? WeFly, presumably. There was talk of WeMars Mars even putting office space on the red planet. That really is wild. It was wild.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So Adam Neumann becomes fantastically rich. He also indulges his eccentricities. I mean, he was known to walk around the office barefoot. But now he's installed a private plunge pool in his office, a cold plunge, an infrared sauna in his office. He has a white Maybach. He's like blaring hip hop as this chauffeured white Maybach takes him all over Manhattan. He also convinced the company to buy a $60 million private plane, which he and other executives hotbox. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:20 That's, you know, getting high in a confined space with the marijuana smoke filling the cabin. Tequila. Adam Neumann loved his Don Julio tequila. He would even get people who didn't seem the tequila type, like Jared Kushner, to take tequila shots at 9 in the morning while they were scoping out some real estate in Philly. Wow. But employees said that there was just free-flowing booze all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:43 A lot of marijuana, a lot of these summer camp kind of weekend retreats. People would get drunk and they'd dance around a fire singing to Journey. And other sort of animal house antics, but always infused with this like larger purpose. Adam would get on stage with like Deepak Chopra and address employees. And it was this culture of WeWork that was very specific to kind of Adam's vision for the company. So Amy, as Adam Neumann becomes this large human life character, as WeWork is opening offices all over the United States, all over the world, and as this large human life character, as we work as opening offices all over the United States, all over the world, and as this term we starts to get applied to all areas of life,
Starting point is 00:11:29 are people starting to question whether this is getting just a little too big and whether it's all kind of adding up? By and large, people looked at what Adam had accomplished. We work on every corner, as you said, taking over iconic buildings, and they believed in what he was selling.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And then on top of that, you throw in Masa, this Japanese tycoon who had made a fortune investing early on in these founders, Alibaba, Yahoo, Uber, just based on gut instincts. And if he believed in Adam, why shouldn't everyone else? So WeWork does what successful startups do. They prepare to go public, meaning they can sell their shares to the public. There's a valuation on the company of $47 billion. That makes it the most valuable startup in the country. And part of going public,
Starting point is 00:12:20 they have to disclose everything in paperwork. And that's when things start to unravel. We'll be right back. We were just unveiling its IPO filing. So why do things start to unravel when WeWork files all this paperwork to go public? So this is the first time that journalists, investors, the public can really look under the hood at what's going on in WeWork. Do we have any numbers in terms of how much money they're making or losing right now? And it's not pretty. Net losses were just under a billion dollars, $904 million. The company had lost $900 million
Starting point is 00:13:10 in the first half of 2019 alone. Wow. They had rapidly expanded into markets that weren't necessarily friendly to WeWork. And there had also been some kind of questionable financial dealings between Adam and the company that he started. Like what? Well, he had trademarked the word we and sold it back to the company for $5.9 million. He ended up returning that money, but that certainly raised eyebrows. He had bought a lot of the buildings that WeWork was now leasing. So the company had paid him millions of dollars for space in the offices that he owned. So this is all very unconventional and potentially even self-dealing. Right, but then there's the text of the IPO,
Starting point is 00:13:49 the legal document that they filed with the SEC. The word community is listed more than 150 times. And there was all of this kind of propping up what we now know is a very unprofitable business with this lingo of self-help and creating community. And people just started to see it as selling air, you know, couching this unprofitable business in language that made people feel good. So this paperwork filed with the SEC really sets off an implosion unlike any other in startup history. All the bad press and the bad moves caused the company's expected valuation to drop from
Starting point is 00:14:26 $47 billion down to just $15 billion. It could come in as low as $10 billion, according to the office-sharing company, below $8 billion, and that is a fraction of the $47 billion. The value of WeWork plummets. So this is when discussion starts to spread of, well, should there even be an IPO? Is this company ready to go public? And people start to turn on Adam pretty quickly at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:52 WeWork CEO Adam Neumann is facing new pressure from some of his top investors following the company's decision to postpone the IPO. Some board members and large investors in the company are privately discussing whether they could replace CEO Adam Neumann and how they would do it. They think he should be removed. He should not be the CEO of WeWork. Not only should he not be the CEO, but he should have no involvement in WeWork anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah, this is now official. WeWork has officially come out saying that Adam Neumann is stepping down as CEO. Eventually, Adam is forced to step down. People are supposed to say, I hate to be an I told you so, but I love to be an I told you so. This house of cards was coming down. This business based on beanbags, distressed furniture and Nespresso machines. And yet somehow this guy has been treated as some guru genius because he's such an effective self-promoter. P.T. Barnum is supposed to have said, there's a sucker born every minute. That's
Starting point is 00:15:45 what's going on here. And Wall Street, they were suckered too, along with SoftBank buying in. Where'd they get this $47 billion for $12 billion of cash? So they decide that even getting rid of Adam does not save this effort to go public, and they have to pull the IPO. I mean, this is hugely embarrassing. This company that had been valued at $47 billion, most valuable startup in the country, is suddenly valued at a tiny fraction of that. And this Japanese investor, Masasan, who had been such a visionary, it's extremely embarrassing for him. Ultimately, he has to apologize to investors specifically for putting so much faith in Adam Neumann.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So what becomes of Adam Neumann at this point? He has been pushed out of his company. In a way, he has been exposed as someone who is a better salesman than operator of a company. And it becomes pretty clear that he has built something that is not all that revolutionary, but is a little bit of a financial, and it becomes pretty clear that he has built something that is not all that revolutionary, but is a little bit of a financial house of cards. Well, here's what's so interesting about what happened to Adam Neumann. He walked away from the company he founded with over a
Starting point is 00:16:57 billion dollars. How is that possible? SoftBank bought his shares in WeWork, and they also agreed to pay him $46 million in consulting fees for four years. Wow. Nice work if you can get it. Why? SoftBank would say that this was the cost to get Adam out and start to clean up the mess, which includes laying off potentially thousands of employees. You know, in this letter, the employees call it graft. Here he was walking away with over a billion dollars. I mean, generational wealth as they face layoffs, losing their health care, getting nothing. They write, we are not the Adam Neumanns
Starting point is 00:17:40 of this world. We are a diverse workforce with rents to pay, households to support, and children to raise. We are not asking for this level of graft. We are asking to be treated with humanity and dignity so we can continue living life while searching to make a living elsewhere. Amy, how do we explain what's happened here, the pretty sad saga of WeWork and the situation that has ended with all these workers waiting to be laid off? So the story of WeWork and Adam Neumann is essentially a story of his exploitation of two phenomenon. two phenomenon. The first is this kind of late stage tech capitalism, when investors really want to believe in these startup founders who have businesses that are essentially sort of traditional businesses with tech layered on. Uber is a perfect example of that. Calling a taxi with your phone. And in turn, give these companies enormous valuations when the business underpinnings are not necessarily there.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So the irony, of course, was that Adam Neumann tapped into this tech vernacular about changing the world, about revolutionizing office space. But his company had really nothing to do with tech. It was a commercial real estate company. But people believed that. But it had a tech valuation because investors believed it. The second thing he quite brilliantly exploited was this yearning of millennials having this capitalist ambition and hustle, but also this yearning for community. This we generation, as he called it, that it's not about you or me, it's about we. And in the end, it essentially was about him. about we. And in the end, it essentially was about him. It is us who will blaze a path forward, paved not with algorithms, not with software, but with values, with friendship, with common goals,
Starting point is 00:19:42 and most importantly, with humanity. And I think that's been particularly hard for WeWork employees to stomach. It's not just that the business turned out to be not as profitable as they thought it was, and their CEO walked away with a giant golden parachute. It was that they believed that it was bigger than that. They believed it was a community, and now they're saying that it wasn't. And the We Revolution is going to be led by the We Generation, and it will restore in each one of us a sense of dignity and community without which greatness cannot be achieved The we generation knows that you must treat other people the way you want each other That being part of something greater than yourself is a privilege
Starting point is 00:20:20 And the we generation does not discriminate between age, race, gender or religion Thank you, Amy. Thank you, Michael. On Sunday night, The Times reported that WeWork is preparing to lay off at least 4,000 employees. Those layoffs are expected to be announced as early as this week. We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today. Over the weekend, impeachment investigators released the closed-door testimony of a National Security Council official, Tim Morrison, who further tied President Trump to the quid pro quo with Ukraine. Morrison testified that Gordon Sondland,
Starting point is 00:21:29 the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, acted at Trump's behest when he repeatedly communicated to Ukrainian officials that opening investigations helpful to Trump would result in the release of $400 million in U.S. military assistance to Ukraine withheld by Trump. Morrison also testified that National Security Advisor John Bolton had tried and failed to convince Trump to release the military assistance during a meeting over the summer. And.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Thank you! What a great night it is for Louisiana. And to God be the glory. Governor John Bel Edwards of Louisiana, the only Democratic governor in the Deep South, narrowly won re-election on Saturday,
Starting point is 00:22:24 defeating a Republican supported by President Trump. It was the second time in two weeks that a Republican candidate for governor backed by Trump has been defeated. After the defeat of Kentucky's Republican governor, Trump had told Louisiana voters that he needed them to deliver him a victory. So Trump took a look, so you got to give me a big win, please, okay? On Saturday, during his victory speech, Louisiana's governor gently teased Trump about the outcome. And as for the president, God bless his heart. That's it for The Daily. I'm Michael Barbaro.
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