The Daily - The Sunday Read: ‘The Books About Sex That Every Family Should Read’

Episode Date: July 24, 2022

How do you teach your child about sex? It’s a perennial question that has spawned hundreds of illustrated books meant to demystify sexual intercourse.But for the Canadian author Cory Silverberg, the...re was something lacking. Silverberg, who uses they/them pronouns, felt that books on sex aimed at children often omitted mention of intimacy in the context of disability or gender nonconformity. And so they set about making a book of their own.They wanted to tell a story of how babies are made that would apply to all kinds of children, whether they were conceived the traditional way or through reproductive technologies, whether they live with adoptive or biological parents, and no matter their family configuration.The book critic Elaine Blair, who had also felt that children’s literature on sex was a little thin on inclusivity, recalls being drawn in by the fact that Silverberg’s “Sex is a Funny Word” is one of few children’s books that contend with the fact that children encounter representations of sexuality in the media.Ms. Blair met up with Silverberg in Houston to understand the germ of the idea and the editorial process of delivering the book, from conception to print.This story was written by Elaine Blair and recorded by Audm. To hear more audio stories from publications like The New York Times, download Audm for iPhone or Android. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Growing up is a strange and exciting experience. Dad? Yes? Where do babies come from anyhow? Well, your child is inquisitive. But sooner than you may think now, your child will be old enough for a full explanation. The better you understand all of these facts, the better you will be prepared to discharge one of the greatest responsibilities of parenthood,
Starting point is 00:00:21 the intelligent education of your child to the facts of human reproduction. When my daughter was in preschool and was approaching the age of when it seemed like we should maybe talk about the subject of sex, a friend recommended the work of Corey Silverberg, an author of sex education books for kids. It was almost disorienting to read the books because their approach to the subject was like nothing that I had seen before. My name is Elaine Blair, and I'm a writer, mostly a literary critic. Pretty much the only way that sex education happened in books for children was by telling them the science behind how babies are made. The earliest book of this kind in the U.S. is from 1939.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And actually, it doesn't even mention sex, although it mentions every other part of conception, gestation, and birth. And most of the popular books on sex education have actually pretty much followed that framework. Even as sex ed books have started to include other subjects, it just seemed like more chapters were being tacked onto a textbook about how babies are made. When you read Corey's books, they depart entirely from this framework. They define sex as something that adults do to feel close to one another, but they stick closely to children's experience and the questions that children are asking about sex. And what I love about the books, particularly the one that I focus on in this story called Sex is a Funny Word,
Starting point is 00:02:06 is that they really make room for the fact that sex is a funny word and that people have a wide range of responses to it. And all of that is okay. Corey is actually a very strong believer that it's parents who should decide how sex ed goes for their kids. It's really about affirming the instincts of the parents and helping them develop a flexible language for talking about their values, whatever those values may be, rather than telling parents how or what they should be talking about with their kids. So here's my article, The Books About Sex That Every Family Should Read, read by Kirsten Potter. The books about sex that every family should read. Read by Kirsten Potter.
Starting point is 00:02:48 This was recorded by Autumn. To listen to more stories from The New York Times, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, The Atlantic, and other publications on your smartphone, download Autumn on the App Store or the Play Store. Visit autumn, that's A-U-D-M dot com, for more details. About eight years ago, when my daughter was in preschool, I went to the children's alcove of our local library and found the book that I'd heard was the standard bearer of liberal sex education for younger school-age children. It's So Amazing, a book about eggs, sperm, birth, babies, and families,
Starting point is 00:03:28 by Roby H. Harris and Michael Emberley. My daughter had so far only thrown me some softballs about pregnancy and babies, but it probably wouldn't be long, billboards in Los Angeles being what they were, before I was fielding questions about sexuality. It's So Amazing covered many subjects—anatomy, gender, fertilization, gestation, birth, love, heterosexual intercourse, sexual orientation, child sex abuse, and HIV. Light on gender difference, open to gender fluidity and self-determination, it looked like a reasonably sound compendium of current thought. A graphic of a boy and girl had arrows pointing to most
Starting point is 00:04:11 parts of their bodies reading same, and only one set of arrows pointing at their reproductive organs reading different. Our reproductive systems may divide us, the book suggested, but let's not lose sight of all that we have in common, such as our circulatory, digestive, and lymphatic systems. In a chapter called What's Sex? An Unclothed Man and Woman, Partly Covered by a Blue Blanket, Kissed in Missionary Position. When two people care for each other, sexual intercourse is very loving. I read in the accompanying text, But then came the next chapter, What's Love?, with pictures of smiling families and couples, in many different configurations,
Starting point is 00:04:59 watching TV, eating meals, cuddling and walking dogs, all with little red hearts around them, with nearby text explaining the meaning of words like straight, gay, and lesbian. Now something nagged at me. All the different kinds of couples did fun things together with their clothes on, but only the man and woman in the previous chapter got to take their clothes off. Other sex ed books I'd seen for this age group were about making babies and didn't even mention same-sex couples. But this book's well-meaning attempt at inclusivity practically spelled out a hierarchy of value. Heterosex is sex. The other stuff, though very
Starting point is 00:05:38 loving, is off-brand. This was rather too much like my own liberal-ish childhood sex education, a scene of maddening adult evasions and inconsistencies, the unspoken drift of which was that some desires and practices were less good than others. I closed the book. But still, it troubled me. What should the illustrators have done? Drawn more pictures of more naked couples in a wider variety of common sexual scenarios? That hardly seemed right. Not long after, a friend recommended Sex is a Funny Word by the sex educator Corey Silverberg and the artist Fiona Smith. The book defines sex as something people can do to feel good in their bodies and also feel close to another person. Sex is also one way grown-ups make babies. Apart from these statements,
Starting point is 00:06:34 which are accompanied by drawings of a fully clothed, smiling couple and, separately, a baby, the book doesn't try to explain or illustrate sex acts. It's focused on children's experience of bodies, gender, and the strange things that can happen socially when the topic of sex comes up. Illustrated with comics panels, it follows four elementary school-age children. One page shows the children encountering pop cultural depictions of sexuality. Mimi is in a movie theater watching a prince and princess kissing on screen. Cooper walks by his brother's room and finds him watching a music video with a close-up of a person's breasts. Omar sees a roadside billboard featuring a woman in a
Starting point is 00:07:18 tight dress. A question mark floats above each child's head. A panel like this may sound unremarkable, but it actually makes Sex is a Funny Word one of very few children's books to contend with the fact that children encounter representations of sexuality in the media. The book is also filled with all kinds of social scenes. Kids telling jokes or teasing each other, chatting with neighbors, arguing with siblings, running errands,
Starting point is 00:07:45 riding the bus. In one set of panels, Mimi bounds into the kitchen where her dads are making dinner. One of them asks her how her day at school went. Great, she tells him. I heard some kids talking about, what does mean anyway? Her dad's face is startled, and then, in the next panel, angry. Don't ever say that word again. That's a bad word. Mimi is indignant. That's not fair. I don't even know what it means. How am I supposed to know if a word is bad if I can't say it? Dad is at a loss. Go do your homework. And then, his face softening, he adds, we'll talk about it later. Scenes like this also make Sex is a Funny Word one of the few books to show children dealing with the subjects of sex and gender in their family lives. Sex is a Funny Word is part of
Starting point is 00:08:37 a trilogy of books written by Silverberg, including What Makes a Baby? and the recently published, you know, Sex, that have quietly upended the genre. Silverberg, who uses they pronouns, is skeptical of the term sex positive and would like to see a world with no normative pressures around sex, including the pressure to have sex or care much about sex at all. Rather than beginning with the premise that sex is great, and everyone will eventually learn to enjoy it, they begin with the subtly different premise that sex is often difficult, and they want to help make it less difficult.
Starting point is 00:09:15 For some people, sex is great. For some people, it's terrible. For some people, it means nothing. I heard them tell a group of parents, our kids don't know who they are yet. I want to phrase things in a way that leaves all those possibilities open. When Silverberg was 17 and looking for a summer job in the mid-1980s, their father, like many well-connected fathers before and since, called around to people in his professional network in Toronto to see if anyone had work for a high schooler.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Silverberg's father was a sex therapist, and the job he found for his kid was working as a clerk at Lovecraft, the first sex toy store in North America owned by women. Silverberg was a young-looking 17 and had never so much as kissed anyone, yet they found themselves charged with helping customers pick out vibrators. They were mostly women, and they would see me and keep looking around for another sales clerk. They were like, I don't want that guy. Silverberg laughed as they told me this story in a cafe noisy with a late morning Sunday crowd near their home in Houston.
Starting point is 00:10:42 When Silverberg speaks to groups of parents or teachers, they talk about having grown up the child of a sex therapist with access to a wide selection of sex education materials for both adults and children. They were a precocious reader and studied these carefully, but none of them offered any clue about something that was increasingly worrying them. I was this femmy kid that everyone thought was gay, Silverberg said, though they themselves were not at all sure
Starting point is 00:11:08 that gay was the right concept for what they were experiencing. Silverberg was attracted to women but found going out with them uncomfortable in some way that they couldn't understand. I just felt bad, lonely and bad. I thought that there was actually something structurally wrong with me.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Silverberg eventually realized, when they were in their early 30s, that they felt more like a woman than like the man the world had presumed them to be. It was gender, not sexuality per se, that was at the heart of their struggle with their body and romantic life. But for years of Silverberg's adolescence and young adulthood, there seemed no good way to even begin to explain how they felt. I would say I'm weird. I would say I'm not straight or that I'm straight-ish. People would say that I'm a man and I would say, well... Silverberg went on to work at Lovecraft for
Starting point is 00:12:03 nine years while finishing high school and attending university. Though they were very confused about sex in their own life, they were pleased to find that they had the ability to talk about sexuality without feeling or seeming awkward. Or, as they put it, They became particularly interested in working with the store's disabled clientele. Other people's sex stuff didn't freak me out, and I knew how to show that it didn't freak me out. They became particularly interested in working with the store's disabled clientele. With the non-disabled customers, most of the work was just helping them to say what they wanted. But the disabled customers would be very specific.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Do you have a penis pump that doesn't have latex because I'm allergic to latex? Or I want to try to have an orgasm, but I can't hold anything with my hand. What can I do? They'd come in able to talk about every aspect of their bodies, what moves and how, where there's feeling and isn't, but then their question would be, how can I have sex? It seems to me the reason those people asked, how can I have sex, is because the world had already told them exactly how they were supposed to have it, by having penile vaginal intercourse, and they can't do that. So they were stumped. After graduating with a master's in education from the University of Toronto, Silverberg developed a specialty in training professional groups, midwives, teachers,
Starting point is 00:13:22 home health care workers, occupational therapists, on issues of sex and disability. Then some friends came to them with a proposition. Could Silverberg write a book for their young son about how babies are made? The friends were the parents of a four-year-old and had another baby on the way. The father was a trans man. The children's books on store shelves featuring mom and dad conceiving baby in a four-poster bed or adopting a child did not account for their family. Silverberg was immediately intrigued. They knew right away that they didn't want to write just for the children of trans parents. They wanted to tell a story of how babies are made that would apply to all kinds of kids,
Starting point is 00:14:02 whether they were conceived the traditional way or through reproductive technologies, whether they lived with adoptive or biological parents, and no matter their family configuration. But what is it that all babies and all expectant parents have in common? Silverberg came up with a simple, pared-down story of a sperm, an egg, a uterus, and people waiting expectantly for the arrival of a baby. On the last page, Silverberg asks readers, who was waiting for you to be born? Silverberg asked Smith to illustrate the book and made a Kickstarter page, expecting to bring out what makes a baby themselves
Starting point is 00:14:43 after a few publishers rejected the idea as too niche. Our goal was to raise $9,500, and I was sure that I would hustle, hustle, hustle, and then get members of my family to give me most of it, Silverberg told me. Instead, they met that goal the first day the project went live. By the end of the month, they had raised nearly $65,000. Although a lot of the early supporters were LGBTQ families, that's not how we got to $65,000, Silverberg says. It was straight families. There was a critical mass of conventional families
Starting point is 00:15:19 who wanted a different story and were open to revising their whole way of thinking about how sexuality and reproduction can be discussed with kids. When I met Silverberg in their home office, a book-lined converted garage behind the gray-blue Houston bungalow where they lived at the time, they've since relocated to Toronto, they pulled a stack of vintage sex ed books from the shelves, picking out some of the
Starting point is 00:15:45 most visually striking. Silverberg dresses in the collared shirts and professorial sweaters they've favored for years, and when people see them with their longtime partner, a woman, and their seven-year-old, they seem to assume they're looking at a straight family. Silverberg does not usually correct that impression in brief social encounters because they don't feel that there's a quick way to sum up their experience of gender. Speaking before groups of parents, Silverberg has the mild, encouraging manner of a professional facilitator. But one-on-one, they're an animated fast-talker, eager to discuss the history and the pitfalls of a professional facilitator, but one-on-one they're an animated fast talker, eager to discuss the history and the pitfalls of a genre that draws so much ire from
Starting point is 00:16:31 the political right, but not much serious engagement from anyone else outside the field. One volume they draw from the stack is How Babies Are Made, a popular time-life picture book from 1968, illustrated with paper sculptures of animals mounting each other to mate. Another is a trippy little Danish volume from 1973 called How a Baby Is Made that shows a full-body illustration of a grinning, wild-eyed cartoon Scandinavian couple in flagrante. Peter Mayle's Where Did I Come From, a blockbuster hit in the 70s and still surely the most exuberant book of its kind, features a doughy, pink, middle-aged couple and a groundbreaking mention of orgasm. All the rubbing up and down that's been going on ends in a tremendous big lovely shiver for both of them.
Starting point is 00:17:26 The wide variety of tones and visual styles among these books makes it all the more notable how consistently they're locked into the same basic framework. More recent popular books like Laurie Krasny Brown and Mark Brown's What's the Big Secret and Robie H. Harris' Sex Education series for different ages give more space to anatomy, including children's bodies, discuss masturbation, reassuringly, and mention different kinds of relationships. But the more room such books make for the precepts of sexual liberalism, gender and sexual inclusivity, frank discussion of anatomy and pleasure, the stranger seems their insistence on yoking discussions of sexuality to even longer discussions of conception, gestation, and birth. Sex, in these books, is a small part of the larger story of human
Starting point is 00:18:19 reproduction. This happens to be the opposite of what nearly every song, video, television plotline, overheard wisp of schoolyard gossip, or adult innuendo suggests to children, which is that sex is incredibly interesting in itself, deeply tied to social status, and has little or nothing to do with babies and parenthood. hood. There's certainly nothing wrong with teaching the science, Silverberg says, but a biology lesson doesn't open out into the conversations that many parents hope to have with their children about attraction and intimacy, about communication and consent, about the online pornography that kids may already have seen. Compared with the other books in the sex ed library, sex is a funny word is among the least explicit when it comes to the mechanics of sex. There are no descriptions of penises inside vaginas or any other acts. Partly because Silverberg would never reduce sex to heterosexual intercourse, but also because they're not convinced that children of this age need to be told exactly what people do with their bodies during sex
Starting point is 00:19:25 or to be shown pictures of couples in sexual embrace. Seeing is not a small thing, they told me. The chapter Learning About Bodies has pages about privacy, nudity, and the special significance and silences around certain body parts in order to set up its pages on sexual anatomy. I want kids to know that seeing a naked body is a big deal. It matters. When we see stuff, it stays with us. Silverberg is perfectly happy to be going against the liberal pedagogical tendency toward showing kids more. They don't relish any of the political labels that inevitably get attached to their work.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Sex is a Funny Word was on the American Library Association's top 10 most challenged books list in 2017 and 2019, meaning that it was a target of removal requests from schools and libraries even before the recent surge of conservative censorship. Complaints ranged from discussing gender identity to simply addressing sex education. I bristle against the language of liberal and progressive because I am genuinely trying to write books for as many people as possible. Some people might think that the books are going to contradict their values, and what I can promise anyone is that in some places they will,
Starting point is 00:20:45 and in some places they won't. If your values are that homosexuality is wrong, the books will contradict that. But they also will never say that you should go and have more sex. They certainly will never say that being religious and having a healthy sexual and gender identity
Starting point is 00:21:01 are incompatible. And never will they say sex is great. I think that a life that doesn't include sexual activity, whether that's for religious reasons, moral reasons, or reasons that have to do with your body, can be a completely full life. It took Silverberg and Smith seven years to complete, you know, sex, their book for kids entering puberty. The four main characters of Sex is a Funny Word are now in middle school, and Mr. C, their sex ed teacher, leads them in discussions about body changes, gender, and sexual decision making. Dozens of pages are devoted to boundaries and consent, illustrated with comics of variously gendered
Starting point is 00:21:45 young people, at the movies, on picnic blankets, at parties, asking permission to do things like hold hands or kiss, talking to one another about what feels good or bad or meh. Examples of language for negotiating physical intimacy abound. You want to go check out upstairs? Can we just hang here for now? Let's slow down. Is this still okay? Let's take a break. Reading, you know, sex, I remembered that when I first spoke to Silverberg, they mentioned some of the questions they were wrestling with as they incorporated much more factual information about reproductive biology, anatomy, birth control, sexual assault than they had in the earlier books. Questions like, how do you define a sexual feeling as opposed to other
Starting point is 00:22:32 feelings? Should this new book have some kind of illustration of sex? I had thought of these as technical questions about which body parts and sexual activities to show, which definitions to use in the course of what I basically pictured as a big information drop. I hadn't considered the possibility that mood and metaphor and surrealism could make a book about puberty feel like something other than a pedagogical text. I certainly hadn't pictured a group of kids in bathing suits chatting about their menstruation experiences in a swimming pool filled with bright red blood. Nor had I imagined that a pair of anthropomorphic lemmings could demonstrate how social pressure leads us to initiate or agree to physical intimacy that we don't really want.
Starting point is 00:23:20 As for the question of how to illustrate sex, Silverberg continued to opt for less graphic detail rather than more, settling on the idea of stick figures. The inspiration came from a groovy 1970s novelty item that Silverberg remembers seeing at souvenir shops as a kid, posters showing grids of silhouetted figures in different sex positions, each one corresponding to a zodiac sign. Based loosely on Silverberg's recollections, Smith has drawn a half-dozen cheerful, gender, and genital-free stick couples assuming some iconic poses.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Most people think having sex looks like this, reads the accompanying text. When I got to this panel, I fell through one of those temporal trap doors and, for a split second, was reading as my childhood self. I eagerly looked to the next panel for the myth-busting truth. Someone was finally, finally going to tell me what sex really looked like. But, of course, Silverberg is not one to stage a big reveal with claims to definitional authority. Having sex can look like a lot of things, reads the text in a second panel, where the same smiling stick people, solo or in pairs, do things like make eye contact, hold hands, give foot massages, sit in front of laptops and have fantasies involving the torso
Starting point is 00:24:41 of a broad-shouldered, hairy-chested hunk. This kind of open-ended phrasing, a signature of Silverberg's, is something that they developed years ago through a conversation with an early reader of Sex is a Funny Word. Silverberg always workshops books in progress with audiences of different ages and backgrounds to get their perspectives. And this reader, a transmasculine person who was raised in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish family, said something that made a strong impression on Silverberg.
Starting point is 00:25:11 In the first draft of Sex is a Funny Word, Silverberg recalled, I wrote in a lot of places that people either felt good or bad about things. A touch might make you feel good or make you feel bad and so on. But this reader said, some things just make you feel nothing much at all. But that's a feeling too. Silverberg was electrified and seems electrified all over again remembering the moment. It was this idea of neutrality. I had been doing the typical thing,
Starting point is 00:25:39 which is laying out two options. But even if there had been 15 options, Silverberg says, the problem was making a finite list of things that a reader might feel. Because if they don't feel any of the things on the list, they think, well, that's not me, and I lose them. They grow subdued thinking about the challenges of reaching and holding a wised-up audience of young teenagers. The way that sex ed often deals with confusion in puberty, Silverberg says, is with a wink-wink, like, you're going to be confused about your body, but you're not really going to be confused about your body because everyone knows what happens, and here's what's going to happen
Starting point is 00:26:21 to you and how you'll feel. But I don't know how people are going to feel. I only know my experience and the experiences of people I've talked to, which is a lot of people, but still not everyone. Bye.

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