The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Big Suey: Big Cat Cried First

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

Tony kicks off the hour with a Refran Del Dia before we discuss the flag-planting controversy in college football after Texas players planted a flag on a Baker Mayfield Oklahoma jersey. Plus, Izzy saw a car on fire on the way into work, which is possibly the most Miami thing ever. Ben Herbstreit has become a celebrity and we wonder which college football analysts would not be able to get credentials for their dogs. Jess goes further into this week's college football slate, including the QB situation at Texas with Quinn Ewers and Archie Manning. Also, Cooper Manning wore a crazy hat, Izzy's house is apparently covered in boogers and nails and how much do Chris's daughters' dreams cost? Then, Mark Messier joins the show to discuss Prime Video's new docuseries 'Game 7', which he is an executive producer on with Danny DeVito. Also, was Greg Cote right about Connor McDavid? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it and now here's the marching band to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar Roy can you hit me with a transition real quick

transition can we do a ref round the deal of course we can well there's debate on whether Tony came up with that either so we're not really came up with what we're doing there a big gap though some Sane of the day, real original. I used to have a reframed D on my Spanish speech and writing class. Yeah, see? What year was that? Oh, I feel like 10th grade.

Shout out to Miss Armengol. She's still with us. Is she? I don't know. Oh, OK. I have a really good content. It would be competing with Tony. Just come on, Bill.

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wheel this time all right let's spin it oh this is a fun one Billy's gonna like this one for sure cuz he's been told this one a bunch. Hmm I like how it comes before I actually say that was an English. Yeah, that makes me happy today's that I found that dia is casa del carajo Casa del carajo, what do we normally do here? Do we give the literal translation and then what it means? I know what Casa means Yeah, Casa do here? Do we give the literal translation and then what it means? I know what casa means. I'm gonna let Billy go take his. There's lots of casas. Yes. Where things can be. Lots of casas. Billy, would you like to explain casa del carajo? What is casa del carajo? If you're using it the same way that I'm

thinking of it being used, it's like you ask like where is that and then they'll tell you like casa del carajo which means it's far as hell. It's very far away. It's like hell's house. Exactly it's like very far away. BFE. But carajo I feel like is usable in many different ways. Isn't it just a flat out like damn it or you know like a S word type of situation. Exactly just like in Spanish there's a lot of different meanings for a singular word, right? Carajo, the actual translation of carajo is a crow's nest, like on a ship, right? Where you have the person who's out there like looking for land. Really?

Yeah, so that's what a carajo is. It's a crow's nest that somebody would go out there and that's where the saying, Betepa carajo, you're going up to the crow's nest and you're looking out and trying to find land. Vete pa carajo, eso está en casa carajo. Can I ask you if this phrase that I've heard all the time growing up translates to a different household?

Dominican household is my household. That's a bad word. And my mom would always say, vaya pa la joya colá. I have no idea what that means. Just go somewhere really far, or that thing is in the joya colá. I have no idea what that meant ever, and I never far or that thing is in the Hoya Cola I have no idea what that meant ever and I never thought about a translation I never heard it anywhere else. Have you ever heard that? I have not but I can ask Frankie Thank you, who's part of the same Dominican tribe you Frankie Cynthia at least here on our team

So I can ask him and then come back with with an answer. But today's our fun the dia casa carajo Can we use it in a sentence, like including Billy? Yeah, like including Billy? Yeah, like put Billy in the sentence. OK. So Billy, me and you, can we go over to Izzy's house? But the problem is, in traffic, it's so time casa carajo. That's true.

I was actually thinking about having a boat day again. OK. Because we're back. See that? I was layered. I like Hey. We're back. See that? I was layered. I like it. He combined two words and he also brought in the other joke. Yeah, he's been thinking about that one for a minute.

Because our new best friend, Ethan, and I took the Brightline home yesterday. It was a very pleasant experience. I felt bad because we were sitting in like... What are you doing there? I felt bad because we were sitting in like... What are you doing there? I felt bad because we were sitting in like... Somebody help me out here. Is it handicapped seating? Or is it different? No, you're good. I'll let her ride. You're good.

The seating with all the extra space in front. And my legs were just all stretched out. And I just felt really bad about it. But Ethan, our buddy, I decided, hey, we should have a boat day. And, yeah, I forgot why I was talking about this. I just pulled a Chris... Casa Carajo. buddy and I decided hey we should have a boat day and yeah I forgot why I was talking about this I just pulled a Chris

and we can have a boat day. Do you have a car on your boat? No no we call those those are called like tuna tuna something like a tower to the tower you go up there and you're like there's a fish so So, hit me with a transition, Roy. Transition. Jess, what is college football's obsession with flag planting? Because I saw that Texas, I believe, planted their flag through the jersey of Baker Mayfield.

Was that last week? Yes, last weekend, two very notable flag planting incidents. One in which Texas players put the flag at the center of the field after they beat Oklahoma through a Baker Mayfield jersey, which he was then asked about and he was like I've been living in their heads rent-free for 10 years, which I thought was a very classic Baker move. And then another flag planting incident is he where James Franklin stopped the Penn State

players from putting their flag at midfield at the game against USC and he was like, no, don't do it, stop. And it was already too late. They were at midfield with the giant flag. My question though, about this whole phenomenon, because I don't think Notre Dame's ever done this. I don't think I've ever been in the vicinity of a college football team attempting to do this, but the flag, this is a very stupid question. The flag doesn't stay. They just put it down and then someone just holds it,

and then at some point they just decide to walk away. I don't get that. I mean, it's the equivalent of Terrell Owens doing the football on the star, right? Just kind of throwing it down and then doing his sign. I don't get it, I do want to talk about that Penn State one though. Did, was this something that they do every week?

Where they, right, so this was sort of a new? This is like a thing you do when you beat a team on the road and not every team has done it, but it'll occasionally happen. I don't know if it's like the MO of specific teams but this was a big road win for Penn State so they did it. So it happens after the game? Yes. Right not before the game where people get into a fight and stuff like that so does the losing team still hold that personally they still stay out there and defend their their

field or they just go back to their locker room? This was like after, I don't think anyone was even really on the field at this point, at least from the video that I saw, but it just feels like a very strange thing where you just take a little flag out to midfield and you just hold it there and you stand there and then you're like, ah, we did it, and then you just kind of leave.

It feels like a very strange thing for James Franklin to be upset, to actually have to deal with and be out on the field and stop them. Like, first of all, I don't know where they get the flags from, maybe the cheerleading squad or whatever, but just go ahead and watch it happen

and then reprimand them in the locker room. The idea of him being this hero who stops it at sportsmanship in the name of sportsmanship. Stop, no! He's so upset. He probably knows he's gonna blow a game soon. You know what I mean? Like in classic James Franklin fashion,

he knows he's gonna blow it and then there's gonna be the video of him, yeah, like, oh look, there he is letting blow a game soon. You know what I mean? Like in classic James Franklin fashion, he knows he's gonna blow it, and then there's gonna be a video of him, yeah, like, oh, look, there he is, letting his team run around. It was the perfect win for the Stugatsas of the world, because it was a very big win on the road at USC. However, USC wasn't ranked, so it won't count towards his ranking of, you know,

big games that he hasn't won. But it should still count, because it was a big win. But the Stugatsas of the world will get to put an asterisk by it. Who has to take the flag out and then bring it back inside? They claim the field as their own, and then what? Just like a water boy come up and be like, OK,

it's not really our field anymore. We're just going to take this flag inside. When the flag gets back in the locker room, are there players disappointed? Like, what the hell, man? I planted my flag inside like when the flag gets back in the locker room are there players like disappointed like what the hell man I planted my flag I have a lot of questions about the logistics of this I'm not gonna lie it's just not something that I'm familiar with I've never done it I've never seen it up close so when I see it happening and I see a coach getting really upset about it he's like don't disrespect the

other team I just find it all very funny I think that the Baker Mayfield thing is more disrespectful because it's like, okay guys, he's. When was he there last? Like it's been such a long time. If I were him, I would treat it the exact same way. Pat myself on the back and say like, wow, they still can't get over me.

Kind of like ha ha, suckers. The closest I've gotten to planting a flag was at a beach when I'm trying to dig in the umbrella. God, that's hard. It's great though that when you do plant your flag and you umbrella. God, that's hard. It's great though that when you do plant your flag and you get your territory if you get to the beach on time and then it fills up and you're just like wow.

Speaking of seeing things up close for the first time, I was driving in this morning, I saw two things. Thank you, Roy. I saw two things that I'd never really seen up close and I was very happy to see them both only because the first one I wasn't so happy to see actually was a car fire. And it was just a car absolutely just in flames

and everybody was on the opposite side of the expressway and so everybody slowed down. That happens all the time. If you look at only in data. If you look at only in data, right by it. Rubber neckers though, right? Do you ever like pass a crash and you're like, I'm not doing it.

I'm not gonna look. I'm looking forward here. Even though you're already going slow anyway. You're only doing that for yourself. It's not like there are other drivers you're like, I'm not doing it. I'm not gonna look. I'm looking forward here. Even though you're already going slow anyway. You're only doing that for yourself. It's not like there are other drivers who are like, hey, who's looking? Oh, he's not looking, he's a good guy. He's just driving.

It's just so annoying when that's what we've waited on. I've been in traffic for 45 minutes and it's just an accident on the other side of the highway that people just wanna. Not gonna lie, I took my phone out for this one. You took your phone out? Yeah, I mean, we were going so slow as it was. No, I just took a little video. I'm sure it was happening.

The other one I might have, if I'd had the video of it, I finally saw, actually I thought it was two people, but it was just one, getting sort of their comeuppance for crossing the express lane poles, right? So I saw somebody do it, and he nearly got into an accident doing it. And so we're still driving. I hadn't gotten to the express lane yet and I look up and there's cop lights and I'm like,

yes, they pulled that dude over. Finally somebody gets it and I get to watch it happen. No, it was not quite as good. It was another person just ahead of us who had tried to cross and got T-boned. And so there was somebody who had just done it, and his very next experience, literally five seconds later, is to see somebody in an accident having just done it.

I wonder if that person is just like, wow, I absolutely got away with one today. Because he or she definitely did almost get hit. But I was thinking about that as I was driving. I'm just like, man, a lot of terrible things can happen to you on a commute to work every day. Like, that's like a war zone it looked like. Somebody just got in T-bone and was standing

in the middle of the expressway. Know the person's car's on fire. I think we all are gonna die. Jesus. Probably not the way I wanted to go there. How were the vibes, Billy? Will you transition us away, please? Yes, transition, get out of here.

Get out of here. I mean, not get out of here, but. Get off this subject. Get off this subject. Get off this subject. I do want to check in on the vibes, because Billy's just the vibes captain today. I thought I came to bring good vibes today. You didn't.

I mean, you did start off by telling Tony's tears were a controversy that we're gonna rip the company apart, and it's really just because everybody uses the same website. I didn't bring those vibes, I just was reporting the news, I'm sorry. He is a reporter at some times. Yeah, like, do we blame, like, you know,

whoever the, I don't know, whoever the chim kent or you for hurricanes no he's just telling you what's going on now really I was told by Jason in my headset that the reason there was only one camera on Tony was because Taylor told him that it was only gonna last a minute or two mitt per quarterback get lied to you're gonna have to get to the bottom of this per quarterback Don LeBbatard to us residents Two guts 41 powerline road second down a nine. This is the down Lebatar Show with the StuGuy. I saw Willow was in the office today.

Do you guys know who Ben Herbstreet is? I know you know who Kirk Herbstreet is. Have you guys talked about Ben Herbstreet on the show? Oh, yeah. So we've talked about his little press passes where he had one in Alabama that said line barker. And he had one in South Carolina that said wide retriever. Oh cute. That's funny. See that one But Izzy I'm not gonna lie at Ben Herb Street a little bit of a controversial topic a lot of people are sick of him They think that he's getting way too much exposure enough with the dog etc. Etc. He was at a dolphins game though

He was the chief happiness officer. I'm just telling you I'm like Billy. This isn't my He was the chief happiness officer. Or operator. Just like Billy. This isn't my- What? Vibes. Today you're the chief happiness officer. This isn't my take.

I love Ben Herbstreet. He is a good dog. But I do see people roll their eyes at him now. And I'm with you. Anytime you make a press pass for a dog, Charlotte Claire in F1, his dog Leo, he gets press passes all the time at F1 races. Every time it gets me.

Every single time. I can't help it but just be like, aw. Do they not like Ben because he's got three siblings at home, they're probably not related, but he's got three other golden retrievers at home and he's the only one who gets to travel? I think it's just a we see too much Ben situation. And again, not my opinion, but Billy,

I see the way that you roll your eyes sometimes when Ben Herbstreit gets brought up. Well, I mean, Ben Herbstreit got his own show. Did he? Yeah, I mean, there's only a certain number of shows where you went to a dog, like, get out of here. You're not Lassie. First Lenny, now Ben.

Who's the college football analyst that can't get their dog credentialed, though? That's what I wanna know. Like, you know, recently. Matt Berry. Like, yeah, like, Matt Berry's like, I wanna bring my dog, Herbie did, and they're just like, ooh, we're out of credentials. I feel like Matt Berry could.

Probably what happened with Robert Griffin III. Couldn't bring his dog, so he quit. But I saw Ben meeting with Ugga, I think it was, of Georgia. Ooh, how'd that go? I mean, they seemed to get along just fine. Sniff butts? I think they were just nose to nose at this point, not a butt to nose. Sniffing nose?

But was there another sort of controversy involving mascots for you, Jess? Well, there was this sort of odd thing that happened the other day. So, Lehman's a huge football fan, but he's not as big of a college football fan as me, I would say, so I said a sentence the other day, and his reaction was just like a complete blank stare,

and that sentence was, do you remember when Bevo attacked Ugga? And he just stared at me and was like, what did you just say? I have no idea what you're talking about. And the reason I thought of that was because Texas and Georgia are playing this weekend and the last time they played was the 2019 Sugar Bowl

where Bevo got loose in his like corral and sort of like lunged at Uggah, the Georgia Bulldogs dog and like Bevo's a huge longhorn, like he's a big ass. Is it white, is it brown? Is it all color? It's mixed, yeah, mixed. It's not important. It is important, the description of Bevo.

I've tried to envision the large animal attacking another animal, I'd like to know what color it is. I'm just saying, I don't see any of that. Well, now we've got images of it, now we've got pictures of it from that sugar bowl. Oh I see what you're doing Chris. Yeah, so there's Uggah just kind of minding his own business. And then all of a sudden comes Charging.

Yo forget about Uggah. I mean there was a lot. There were people in the mix also, yes. But yes, Bevo Big Steer just sort of charges. Some lady, this lady right here almost gets decapitated. Luckily she just ducks and the horn goes right over her head. I think her shoe fell off too. Holy shit.

I kind of remember, were there people saying that Uggah was wearing like bright red and that's why? I mean it's Georgia, that's the color. Right, but I think this is way too close to actual humans and a football game to be happening. Has this like been ruled out, cause this still happened, or is this still going on on the sidelines

of important games for Texas? Also probably a bad idea to put a bulldog next to a bull. Well yeah, I think that was the main takeaway. Good takeaway Roy. Nailed it. You got there. Probably a bad idea.

But anyways, I'm really excited for this weekend because this is gonna be a great college football game and I'm excited to see Georgia at Texas. It's also, like I mentioned yesterday, U.S. Grand Prix in Austin this weekend. I wish I could have gone, but they told me it was too expensive. But it's going to be a great sports weekend at Texas and I really hope there's no incidents with livestock this weekend because that was a scary time for everyone. I was supposed to be, I'm actually going to Austin for a flag football tournament in a couple of months,

and normally they have it on Columbus or Indigenous Peoples Day weekend, but they had to move it back because they had Austin city limits, but I think this F1 event is another reason why it wasn't, so you gotta go win a championship on Halloween. But, I'm curious about in Texas, where they say if you got two quarterbacks, you have none.

Also, everything's bigger. Right. Texas seems to have two quarterbacks, and they're not utilizing both of them, right? Cause they're too similar in style? Well, no. Quinn Uers is the starter. He is like definitively the better quarterback, has tons of experience and you could see that his

experience this season has been a huge difference maker for them. Like they've he's gotten better year over year and so I think that his like his ability is just a lot higher than Arch Manning but Arch Manning as like a fill-in while Uers was hurt did a really nice job. He made a couple mistakes, but like, yeah, he's young, he's a sophomore, he did not expect to start this season. So they have a good backup quarterback,

which I think is something that, you know, a lot of teams throughout a long season, if your starter gets hurt and you have someone that can come in and just manage the offense, make some nice throws win a game That's a super important thing depth is incredibly important in a long college football season. So it's good that they have him there Yours looked fine last weekend against Oklahoma's his first game back But was like a little shaky at the start maybe

So that'll be something to keep an eye on in this game But yours has been playing well and I think he's a really good quarterback. Jess, do you think that Arch Manning, when it's all said and done in his career at Texas, seeing that he stays at Texas, is he gonna be, does he have a higher ceiling than Quinn Ubers?

That in a couple years we're looking at Arch Manning being like, oh wow, he's a round one, pick one kind of quarterback. That's a great question. I think it depends what you think of viewers now in terms of his NFL prospects, but I think that the Texas program has gotten to a point where they are consistently recruiting really excellently.

And so I think that the ceiling for the program's really high, which then I think also raises his ceiling individually. So I was of the opinion that Arch Manning was of the Mannings. He was going to be the next big thing. And am I wrong here? A sophomore in college football, even at the quarterback

position, is it still young? Aren't we expecting a sophomore, if you're great, to be great by then? Well, no, I don't think that's necessarily, it depends on your situation, I think. I think if Manning had decided to transfer because he wanted to start as a sophomore, it would have been not a huge surprise

because we've seen other quarterbacks do that, but given how much Texas put into the recruiting of him and the buy-in that like he has committed himself to with Sarkin and with the Texas program, like I think it depends on the person of course, but like I think it makes a lot of sense for him to stay and have another year where he's not playing or is only starting as a reserve versus go somewhere else where you maybe didn't really wanna go to school two years ago

and then start over with a new coach. So there's definitely pros and cons to it. Some players have a really short window where they're like, I wanna start now. This is my window. He's just not in a hurry, it feels like. Yeah, and Texas is really good. I think it makes sense to wanna be on a team

that has a real shot at winning a national championship and winning an SEC championship, which Texas was in the playoff last year and was one game away from playing in the national championship. So I personally could not, I wouldn't wanna leave that. That sounds pretty awesome.

Well, he redshirted too, right? So like he still has eligibility and he knew he was gonna be behind Quinn Yuer. Yeah, exactly. So like he kinda signed up for this and he just knew, my time is gonna come next year. It almost seems like he's got enough experience

in his family to figure out, hey, I don't wanna be like, is it granddad who didn't win anything in college? I wanna be like uncles, right? But I got plenty of time to be there. Even if I were to get to the NFL at the age of 21, probably would struggle. So he's just kinda going through the motions and doing it, I guess, old school.

He also, by the way, is cashing in, because he's making a ton of NIL money without even starting. His name and just his skillset, he came out this year and no one's expecting him to play, but he played because of Inger, and he did decent enough, right, but he's still cashing checks just kind of sitting there.

Yeah, I think he's doing fine. He has a very nice situation. Last year's backup to Ubers did transfer because he knew that Arch would be the preferable player to come in if he left, I think. So that's kind of like the different situation where different players are on different timelines and sort of have different opportunities

that they can take. And of course, like it matters too where you can transfer and what that situation is but I think Texas is in a really nice place right now so it would be, I think it would have been pretty weird if he decided to go that abruptly. I'm so glad we're talking Texas right now because I know Jen CFB talked about this

Cooper Manning hat that he wore this week but we just need to talk about it here for a second. Just put it up guys, I mean what is going on with this hat? Is he going for a joke? Because this is one of the most ridiculous looking cowboy hats I've ever seen. Everything's bigger in Texas. Is it just a sunny day?

And he's just like I need coverage. Cooper Manning, he's got an oversized cowboy hat, but it's not just oversized, it's like over like. Over curved. Curved, yeah. And the funny part is, and I don't know if this is just this photo and it's unfortunate, but no part of that hat is providing shade for his face right now.

It's all sun and he's still got sunglasses. That's a good point. Tony's right there, sombrero vibes. He's completely in the sun. He's getting sunburned despite the sun. Somehow. This hat is so big it reminds me of the cop in Scary Movie 3 where every time they cut back to her,

her hat gets bigger and bigger. This is like a comic. This would be great for him. This should be his thing. Next week, just one inch bigger and you don't even notice. And then by the end of the season, his hat is taking up an entire section of the stadium. Why, see.

It also appears he's standing on the stairs, not in the section. Is this a, the Mannings are sneaky hilarious and he's doing this just for attention to be funny or is this like a functional hat which at the moment happens to not be working for him whatsoever? I don't know, we'd have to ask him.

I don't know what his decision making was. His posture too is like, it's almost like he's crammed. Like if he's in a subway car that's like really tight, why are his arms like so close together? Why not stretch out a little bit? When you're that that crammed the last thing you need is a giant hat And the guy in front of him is digging for gold trying to get right there I like that you can not like he's wearing sunglasses and a hat that's covering half his face and you still look at him And you're like oh, yeah, that's a manning. Yeah, can we zoom in on the guy digging for gold?

Yeah, and then hit the video. Let's see if he I'm curious and just how comfortable people are Wow, he's going two fingers. he's kind of going to squeeze to get that in the middle there why is it so much more comfortable picking your nose when you're driving like I don't care whatsoever if anybody catches me like you know the whole Jerry Seinfeld better he's like oh no pig but like I don't care if somebody can't like you're probably never pig. I'm probably never going to see you again. I'm not going to flick it onto your car. It's OK for me to pick my nature.

Where are you going to put it? That's another great question, because Anthony and I have had these conversations around the house. If you go around the house, and it's not necessarily a booger thing, but if there's certain pockets in the house, if a housekeeper hasn't gotten there, and housekeepers only come like once a year There's a pile of nails nail clippings somewhere

It's usually like behind the couch against the wall in the cow. Yeah, so you do that too right dust and then there's time No He's like hey nobody's ever gonna see that it's no big deal. Here's the other thing and if you come over. I'm sorry I'll have cleaned up Here's the other thing, and if you come over, I'm sorry. I'll have cleaned up. I promise. Where's the house again? Casa Carajo. Casa Carajo.

Another reason not to go. This is, I think, a universal male thing. To correct me if I'm wrong here. If you're kind of like digging, you don't really get gold, you get some silver nuggets, just kind of disappear into nowhere. You just kind of flick it into the air into nowhere, and it just disappears.

Like, if you were to look at your finger, by the way, my finger's so gross right now, it creeps me out because it's like broken and I haven't really had it checked out and every time I look down I'm like, ah, I forget. And it looks like, no, it looks gross, it looks like it's broken. But.

Duh! I think I'm gonna let you talk this one out. Which part? You and yourself. The booger thing, just talk it out. No, yeah, so if you actually see it on your hands, you'd be like, oh, there's something there. But if you don't look and you just kind of do one of those,

it just kind of disappears into the air. You assume that the next time you vacuum, you're gonna pick it up at some point. I don't, am I wrong? Is that not something that people do? So gross. People definitely do that. But you're not supposed to ask, right?

Like I've seen. I've never asked anyone where their booger just went I've been thinking about it at home because I'm just like I'll just see Anthony just do something like that like he'll just you know Wow, you caught him in act and I well I don't I want to ask but I'm like do I want to know the answer? But then I want to pull on that thread. I kind of do so it's like I have a suggestion for you What's up a tissue Wow at all times? Yeah, I like people have tissue boxes in the car. Yeah pack. I thought that was just like a white people thing Yeah, I don't know. I thought people like cry for random reasons

Yeah, I have no idea that white people just had tissue boxes around because they break out in well allergies and breaking out Breaking out in Tony's tears. I thought that was just the white people. Not allowed to cry anymore. Nobody cries or has allergies. Big Cat cried first. I'm a little disappointed that Chris wasn't with me on that one.

I could see you looking for me as an ally and I was just like, oh this is what this is like. But you were there on the nail clipping though. You seemed to be there on the nail clipping because you just didn't want to go that next step. He wanted to add the dusting part. He really liked the dusting. If you go to Izzy's house, keep your shoes on

because there's boogers and nails everywhere. Oh my god. That was also my take. Izzy, it's tough when you... I encourage people to take off their shoes. It's not really tough. That's where the boogers go. They're stuck on strangers. It's more like a smooth texture than tough, I'd say.

No, it's tough when you bring up a topic that is so disgusting and not even Chris can just go with it just for the hell of a show, which is his specialty. How about this? I'm usually there for people, but that one, I was like, ooh, a show, which is his specialty. I'm usually there for people, but that one I was like, ooh, he picks his nose in his house. How about this, transition? That's a lie.

You can go, I have a transition if you need one. I'll split it. And if I need to clear my nose, I'll just go. He keeps going. Where did that go? Little snot rocket. Billy? Taylor Swift's in town.

I know that this is a talk of the town, even though I forgot that she was in town this weekend, because I did the whole thing where I tried to get tickets for myself and my wife. How much were they? Oh, I didn't get them because I couldn't. They're super crazy expensive right now. Even now they're crazy expensive,

and it's like, am I gonna? Like four figures expensive? I think it would have cost me 17 grand to take me, my wife, and my kid. You got that, buddy. Well, it was good, it would have been decent seats, but I'm not even exaggerating. There's seats on there, I went on Game Time

and I looked it out, there's seats on there like $20,000. Like it's insane. Is that Harbrock? Yeah, what people are trying to like. It's so much money. You pay $20,000 for you and your family. No, no, that's a ticket, one ticket. One ticket.

You pay $20,000 for one ticket, Chris, are you then breaking out your phone and recording every second of it, or are you living in the moment? I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just judging my daughter the whole time. You better enjoy this. Put it this way, you're doing all right

if you're paying 20 grand a ticket. Like, yeah, I mean you can get up a deck for like over $1,000 but still it's ridiculous. Like the seats are crazy. Which makes me wonder, like are you guys people that like hoard tickets? Like if an event comes you'll buy extras and then sell it and if so, what's the most you've sold a ticket for,

like on a resale? I've always fancied myself someone who wants to be that guy, but I stink at the whole like- I've done it, I know Billy, I know you've done it. I did it by accident once. It's hard to actually get these tickets, it's like 10 a.m., they go on sale, it's like you gotta be on your shit to get these tickets,

and I'm not. I don't keep any tickets. Doesn't your dad keep old credentials, Chris? He does have a drawer full of credentials, yes. I keep old credentials, I don't know why I don't keep any tickets. Doesn't your dad keep old credentials, Chris? He does have like a drawer full of credentials, yes. I keep old credentials, I don't know why. I have all my credentials too. I have them like hanging like on a little hook by my door. They take up so much space.

Honestly, if I got rid of them, I could probably get Halloween decorations because they take up so much space. I'm looking right now, it looks like before fees, like $800 for the upper deck for T-Series. Do all in pricing on Game Time, that's what I do. Chris, if you knew that your daughter would be so inspired by that concert

that she would work to be a pop star of her own and whether or not she's successful. This was my pitch to my mom to try to get her to buy tickets by the way. Your mom, was your mom going or she just gonna buy tickets for you? I was just like, maybe my mom, I just wanted my daughter to see,

she's very into Taylor Swift and like my daughter Plus what's the number here and like she's there? She's gonna go to school and the other kids are gonna be there and she goes to public school What's the number you would pay for out of pocket if you thought that was to be the case? If you thought his daughter's his daughter's at the age where you have the uncomfortable conversation like you're never gonna be a pop star not paying Six grand for you to go see country. You're not like she's inspired by My daughter the funny thing is, is my daughter has done this thing

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Are we living in an altered world or what? Oh my goodness! This is the Dan Lebatard show with the StuGuy. We're joined now by Mark Messier, six time Stanley Cup champion, Hockey Hall of Famer. Mark I was at I think game three of the Stanley Cup final last year. I was like three seats away from you. Nobody was near you. It felt like you were just focused the entire time. How seriously are you in your bag during a game?

Well, I think it's important to, well, first of all, I'm very invested in the game. I think having been there and played in those types of situations there, first of all, I'm watching it very intently as a fan, then as an analyst in trying to really kind of get the tempo of the game, the tenor of the game, the emotion of the game, then of course the patterns of the game

from an analytical standpoint. But, you know, even if I wasn't working in this industry, I'd still be watching hockey the same way. So be able to watch hockey and then have the job with the ESPN and prime. Now it's amazing. Yeah. I have to focus because I have a hard time even following the puck, but you're wearing that game seven hats. I should tell people it's the greatest hat in the history of hats. It's an amazing hat. The two best words. We're going to send you guys a couple. Oh, please. Thank you. Please do. You're the Simon. If you don't mind. I mean, yeah, I will thank you

Trying to get something Messiah executive producer on Amazon Prime's new documentary about the two greatest words in sports game 7 Tell me obviously you're famous for your game 7 prediction and victory How cool was it getting to focus just on this element of sports? Well, it was incredible. Actually, it's been quite a journey. It's been four years to get to this point. We were able to lock up all the trademarks to game seven. My partner and I, Isaac Chura, and we realized we had something very powerful.

I think the whole Genesis behind the game seven docu series and what's going to roll out after as a brand is that everybody in life can have a game seven moment. You don't necessarily have to be a sport person or to love sports. It can come from all the arts, music, industry. So I think for us being able to tell the story through the lens of sports of how these great players were able to perform when the pressure was the most intense. What are those life lessons that we can all learn from it. So there's humanitarian side to the docuseries but there's also incredible amount of emotion from both sides from the

winners and the losers which we always have to recognize. Mark how did you get involved in this and how did you get involved with Danny Devito. Well Danny Devito is a good friends with Isaac Chira, and they've done some endeavors themselves in the past. Great friends. Isaac was talking to Danny about what we're trying to do with Game 7 and create this community through a docu-series. And Danny goes, I've had my own Game 7 moment.

And Isaac goes, really? What was that? He goes, well, I was cutting hair over in New Jersey and I got an opportunity to go read for a new sitcom that was coming out. So he realized that this was gonna be a make or break moment for him and he had to perform under pressure. So he went in there to the audition

and he grabbed the script and tore it in half and he threw it at everybody in there. He goes, who wrote this garbage? And sure enough, but go, hey, you're like, you're Louie de Pauw and he got the role of taxi. And then he said, that's his game seven moment. That's hilarious. Classic DeVito. Mark, can you articulate for us what it's like? Like the feeling you have before a game

seven as opposed to any other game you've ever played it? Well, that's a great question. I think that everything is obviously magnified, electrified. You've come a long way from, if you think about, started training camp, 82 games, two months of playoff hockey against four different opponents. And here you find yourself with one game left to play

to win a championship. Obviously, there's more at stake. There's a lot of things that come into your mind. What happens if you don't win? What happens if you lose? What's that gonna feel like? But ultimately, going through the process of what you do on a day-to-day basis, you get back into your routine.

And I've always felt it was important to think about the things not going well. But as you get closer to game time, you start to replace that with all the things that and well, but as you get closer to game time, you start to replace that with all the things that and all the positive reinforcement, good self-talk and picture yourself actually winning the Stanley Cup. And then by the time the puck drops, you really get back into executing your game plan, not only as an individual, but as a team.

And that kind of replaces all the noise that you have to kind of be able to shut out to perform under pressure when it's in those kinds of moments. What would you do? Like, did you ever have a teammate where you knew he wasn't built for a game seven? How did that work? Like, you just knew certain guys weren't built for that moment. Well, I think you try to pressure test everybody throughout the year and you put players in situations to see how they do react. And ultimately trust becomes the most important word for any team that's on a journey to win some kind of championship.

Trust is, you have to be able to be able to trust everybody that's going on the ice at every particular time from that they're gonna execute their job on the ice and their positioning, that they're going to execute their job on the ice and their positioning, that they're not going to be retaliatory and take undisciplined penalties, and that they can handle the pressure. And, you know, I actually have played with players

in the past that you had to be able to put them in situations to be successful. And fortunately enough for me, fortunate enough for me that I was with a lot of guys that could handle the pressure. But obviously, obviously not everybody's built for it. Again, he's the executive producer on Amazon Prime's new documentary about Game 7.

It's called Game 7. So great. So Mark wanted to ask you about last year's cup final, that Game 7 between the Panthers and Oilers, where does it rank for you? Well, it was incredible actually to watch it from my perspective, having played and been an Oiler early on in my career, being from Edmonton,

knowing the challenges that the franchise had had and only to find themselves back in the Stanley Cup finals and then to get themselves down three nothing in the series, It was incredible. I guess disappointing for everybody to find themselves in that situation. But then for them to claw their way all the way back to force a game seven was, I've been to a lot of sporting events in my life both as a spectator and as a player. and as a player. Game six in Edmonton probably was one of the most incredible, emotional, vibrant

place, arenas I've ever been into. Game seven was pretty good too, I thought. Game seven was amazing. Going all the way back to Florida, obviously, the disappointing that the Orders weren't able to win. Of course, unbelievable journey for the for the Panthers to come all the way back after losing in the finals a year before only to win it this year. What a what a moment for the Panthers. What a

what an incredible moment for the team and all the players. Going into this season, the oldest finally got their first win of the season with their overtime victory. Connor McDavid who asked for assist hasn't scored a goal yet. Are we worried that the Orlers are going down a similar path as last season or is it now time for them to get hot? Well I think there is some worry that you don't want to get so far behind the eight ball it takes so much energy to claw your way out of it like they had to last year. So I think there is that kind of freshness still in their minds about how they started last year. You know when you go I don't think there's some I don't think there's anything in sport more

disappointing than to go all the way to game seven a championship game and then lose. So I think there is a little bit of a hangover for that for the players and although they're not going to say it is just emotionally I think it took a lot of the players and now they find themselves staring at six months of regular season hockey only to be able to get back to the playoffs and exactly where they want to try to right or wrong in their minds anyways. So I'm not worried. I think they did make some changes. They got some new players in that it takes a while to kind of get the similarities and the synergies

with theirs, but ultimately they're a good enough team to be in the playoffs and whether they can get back to this town and cut finals there, we'll wait and see. Mark, last summer we had you on to discuss Greg Cote calling Connor McDavid, Mc overrated. Please, Mc overrated. Roy just pointed out the slow start here. Are you maybe changing your opinion coming

around to Greg Cody's side or what do you think? I think Greg might have to rethink his position. That was some of the most nervous fake laughter I've ever heard on any sort of radio show. By both of us. Yeah. I'll just end it on this, the other side of it, the Florida Panthers here. We in Florida are looking for a repeat here. What do you think the chances are

of the Panthers actually repeating? Well, it's incredible to see the Panthers, you know, losing the finals a year before, come back and win it last year. They got, had, because of the salary cap, they lost some instrumental players in the championship team. But I watched them play the other day there and looked like they've made some incredible replacements

and their core guys are still there. The challenge is gonna be that that'll be three years in a row to get to the Stanley Cup finals. Injuries, rest, fatigue, both physically and emotionally are going to come into play this year and they got to be able to get through this regular season hopefully rested and injury free. If they can do that, if they can get to the playoffs just in a good playoff position, they don't have to win the division, they don't have to win the conference, all that, but if they can get to the

playoffs relatively healthy and get some rest while doing it, they're going to give themselves a really good chance of getting back there. They got a great young nucleus. Of course, the goaltender, Bobroski is, uh, has proven that he can carry the load. So I wouldn't count the Florida Panthers out just yet. Uh, Mark, last question that game seven with the Rangers calling your shot. It was so legendary, such a legendary moment in sports, such a legendary moment for your career. I am wondering, would you take that Stanley Cup because you won so many with Edmonton. But if I told you, hey, the Edmonton Cubs got to go away, but you still get that game seven for the Rangers, would you take it?

Well, the good news is I don't have to make that decision. But if you had to, if you had to, Mark, I mean, you know, help us out here. So what I'm telling you is you can have all the cups from Edmonton or the one cup from the Rangers. What would you take, Mark? It's a hypothetical question that I just, it would be impossible for me to answer because I would be undermining the incredible experience I had in the five cups in Edmonton. It's like asking somebody who's their favorite child. I don't have an answer. It's Emma. I mean, everybody's got a favorite child. But they just don't want to admit it. That's what Mark is saying.

Yeah, you might have it, but you're not going to admit it. Right. Mark Messier, thank you again. He's part of Amazon Prime's new hockey studio team in Canada. And again, the docu-series Game 7, an anthology, five-part anthology series debuting October 22nd about Game 7. Mark Messier, thanks so much. Thanks for having me on, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you, Mark. The Dan Levitard Show with StuGots is sponsored by BetterHelp.

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