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Episode Date: December 22, 2023The guys end 2023 with a back to basics episode of GBF. Chris Simms is excited to work on Saturday and have a Sunday full of texting his wife thoughts he won't remember. Stu Gotz picks dozens of game ...in Stu Ya Gotz. Tony Boselli surprises Mike Golic. Juju, Carl, K-Funk and SherBear make their weekly picks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. God bless football, Billy Gill.
God bless football, Mikey.
God bless football, Stu Gatz.
Thank you, Mikey.
Happy holidays to you.
Happy holidays to the audience as well.
Billy, yeah.
I call this a back-to-basics God bless football.
The building blocks of God bless football.
Okay.
The different B2B.
Well, listen, these are the basic building blocks of God bless football. Okay. The different B2B. Well, listen, these are the basic building blocks
of God bless football.
No three of us, Michael, Xenier, Chris Sims,
and K-Funk making picks.
I mean, that is it.
That's what we're gonna do today.
I thought you were gonna tell the people
we had Mojo on this week.
Pretty exciting about that.
You're right, Mojo would be a, would be,
you're right.
That'd be getting back to basic.
Yeah, I actually was gonna reach out to him and ask him if he wanted to surprise K-Funk
this week and just tell him like, hey, Mojo K-Funk is like really going on a tear.
He's really like, bragging about it just to have him come and humble K-Funk a little
bit, but it didn't happen.
I think, I think K-Funk might need that.
I think K-Funk might need Mojo to come in and
just knock him down to pay because right now he's flying. So he's, he told us at one
point, he was picking 80% this year, which is, which is total bowl. Yeah. That's not happening.
I think we might need Mojo to just come in for a quick minute. No, I think K funk is
enjoying not having Mojo and Chris, Chris, Chris, I know. I know. Anyone else around,
right? No, I don't, I'm enjoying seeing a confident K-Funk.
I gotta be honest with you.
That's really the problem is that he's really too respected,
I would say.
I don't even wanna say respected,
but not disrespected by the people
that are picking with him this season.
So, they think he's cool.
I think.
Well, no, they're just not mean to him.
So, anyway.
Billy, I think you should go full heel turn on K-Funk.
Yeah.
Just constantly treat him like Mojo.
Listen, here's it.
Well, that, that no, you shouldn't, here's the thing that you don't know behind the scenes.
Do you got something in the works with K-Funk?
And K-Funk may have gotten him into something that he wants to do.
100%.
But Billy, let's be honest.
We have, we have both grown to love and respect K-Funk. We have, we Billy, let's be honest, we have, we have both grown to love and
respect K funk. We have, we have, let's be honest, he's family at this point. Sure. He's
family. Also, if you're watching the draft Kings Network, you're not going to see any of
that because that's just on the podcast. Oh, okay. Listen, the, the Ravens, this is interesting.
There are two big games in the NFL this weekend is interesting there are two big games in the NFL this weekend there are plenty of big games in the NFL but there are two
games that people we consider possible super bowl previews of course the
dolphins in the cowboys and the ravens and forty-nineers
uh... i just read funny to me to hear that the ravens were
hurt like scared like
irk is a word you use when you walk into a haunted house and someone says, boo, okay?
No.
Where you see a ghost, okay?
But like to be Erkth because you're underdogs at San Francisco, Erkth, that you're underdogs
at San Francisco.
Many people consider that to be the best team in the NFL.
San Francisco is favored by five points.
What the hell is Baltimore talking about?
Erkth is like annoyed.
I don't think the haunted house conversation applies at all.
I thought it was like a scary word.
Now your Erkth.
No, it's like you're annoyed or bothered.
Yeah.
Lamar Jackson was a little perturbed.
Yeah.
Like that happened.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like Erkth means like, you know, scared.
Okay, well, I feel like if I was like a team,
and obviously, this is someone, I did look it up.
I'm saying this is someone who's not in the NFL,
I would wanna be the underdog, you know what I mean?
Like, don't think that I'm gonna be good.
Like, don't think that I'm gonna go to the Super Bowl.
Like, that's fine, I don't care.
What is this thing?
Well, I think coaches love that stuff, Billy.
I think coaches love that stuff
because it allows, you know,
hey, look, they're disrespecting you.
Baltimore, you know, Lamar Jackson MVP and they don't think you're better than the 49ers.
I do think the coach who is the underdog kind of loves that, you know.
We'll chip on the shoulder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are you excited about this weekend?
What am I excited about this weekend?
Yeah.
Football wise or outside of football?
Either.
Well, football wise, I mean, the dolphins have a big game, which is going to be exciting
against the Cowboys, but I don't know.
I mean, the game, it'd be good for the dolphins to win because I think if they win, they'll
clinch a playoff spot.
I don't think they may even win the division if they win.
Well, it depends on Buffalo does, but yeah, I mean, it'll be finally a fun big game for the dolphins. The Cowboys are a little bit down at the moment.
So even if the dolphins win, I already know the narrative there is going to be like, well,
it's not the same Cowboys. They're not playing as well as they should have. So we'll see
how things go with the dolphins, but that I'm presuming that that is the or assuming,
is it assuming or presuming? I'm assuming that that's the other game that you were saying is a Super Bowl preview.
Yes.
Yeah.
Dolphin.
Billy is irked on the storyline that hasn't happened.
There was a good question.
We're getting a word right.
Listen, we have nailed it in.
Here we are, mailing it in.
I'm here at least.
I don't know where you are because when we talked about this year, like, yeah, let's
buddy, let's go.
We're going to record this and it's going to be great.
And then it's like, I'm not going to be there.
And now, listen, I was planning on coming there. I was told not to. I mean, what do you
want for me? I think it'd be an extra day off. And I'm gladly take it. Yeah. By the way,
did you say fantasy contest? If you want to compete against a weekly fantasy contest,
go to dkng.co slash levitar and you can read against this in fantasy. You're a jerk, you know, fantasy contest.
Why?
I heard that.
Who are talking to today on TV?
This is going to be very exciting.
We have Goliath and Tony Bisselli together.
I had it never fails with Mikey.
He just sits there with a big smile on his face.
And he listens to those two animals talking about football. Mikey, sits there with a big smile on his face and he listens to
those two animals talk about football. Mikey, it's such a football hard-o conversation.
I know, they love it. They love it.
Mikey, I have a question for you. And you're years of doing all of this. What is like your
most like, I just love sitting back and watching this happen? And like being a part of it,
but just like by association, like just watching this happen.
Mikey C. Oh, okay.
That's it.
Agreed.
I miss you so much, man.
Very obscure reference to many of our listeners, but I have to be honest, Billy.
I agree with the right answer.
It's the right answer.
I think if I won the lottery and I used that money
to start my own thing, I would give Mikey see a job.
It probably wouldn't be like a job that was like
super vital, it'd just be like,
I just like his energy and like him kind of like around.
You know what I mean?
You just kind of want him in your life, around your life,
but not too involved with your life.
I know what you just give him a nice little salary.
Yeah, you know what I would would do now thinking this out.
I'd have him like, if we did like a podcast or whatever,
like I'd have him be part of that too,
but I think to like actually,
I think I'd make him my personal trainer.
I think I'd have him just because I feel like
it'd be so fun to go to the gym with him
because like he takes the gym very seriously now.
And he looks great from all the pictures he sends us,
but I feel like I'd make him my trainer
because he would also like negatively motivate me the entire time and tell me like,
what a piece of crap I am and how unhealthy I'm while like coughing through all of it.
Yes, he's a second floor guy at the gym just so you know.
Yeah, I know, I've heard.
Yeah.
Not everybody can be, but he is.
Yeah.
And then we're so up.
Yes.
Anyway.
Anyway, Billy, we're going to have
go look, but sell it together.
K fucking the boys.
That's, that's the problem.
The segment used to be mojo in the boys.
And now it's K fucking the boys.
And it's gone to his head.
And we'll have Chris Sims as well.
So I'm, I'm looking forward to this.
Billy, you have no idea.
You probably told me this before we started,
but you have no idea who we're going to first.
Do you?
Yeah, we're going to go to Chris Sims first.
Oh, look at that.
You got answers.
You got answers in the last five minutes.
All right, let's go to our buddy, Chris Sips.
BFD with Mike Florian every day on B.Cop, the Unbutton podcast, football night in America.
They have the Patriots and the Broncos.
I'm laughing at you.
Because there's so many good games this weekend and that's the game
that you guys have on Sunday night football.
Two Shay, I will turn the laugh around you.
That game's on the NFL network on Sunday night.
So, wow.
So what do you have?
Our games are on Saturday.
We got two games on Saturday.
We got the bangles and the Steelers and the Chargers bills on Saturday.
I'll be working Saturday and like, I'm a little disappointed. Can we just start right there?
Yes. I mean, does Billy not make enough money to wear a different sweatshirt on the
show? What's happening? What's happening? What's the hold on a second? Nothing. Wait,
I'm just sitting here. You wore last third. last Wednesday and then I want to say you wore it two Wednesdays before
that and you might have worn it now three of the last four shows you were on and the
other show he was out I mean yeah so I mean it's probably getting that dry clean
you didn't know what to do so you know you just like I can't go on without my red
sweatshirt I can't go on without my red sweatshirt. I can't do that. Since I started our Monday show by saying,
we'll get to you the second point as I promise you.
I started the Monday show by saying,
in the three years we've been doing the show,
the thing that makes me happiest is your relationship with Billy
and Billy's text to you over the weekend,
that he was right about something and you were wrong.
I didn't say that, That's not a detached one.
You kind of was.
I did have maybe maybe two was made.
Tyree good all the time because Jalen water.
I know.
I know that all that all that two hundred ninety yards of total off
at damn they were just reattending the world.
There's a thing.
Here's the thing about the dolphins crazy.
Like this is going to sound ridiculous, but they've given them quarters off.
Like that game against the Broncos, they had the whole quarter off.
They had almost a whole fourth quarter off this time.
So like the numbers don't actually indicate what's going on in some of these games.
No, you're right about that.
Numbers a lot of the times don't always tell the context of the situation.
That would be one yet where you're right about that early on in the season when it was
really hitting on all cylinders and nobody had figured out how to defend the dolphins at
all.
You're right.
You guys took the gas to put off the gas pedal and probably could have more points and
more yards.
But now it's like every week, the 49ers equal little closer for that ranking for the top offense and football.
But to your point, it's still, it's still a really good offense.
There's no doubt about that.
The offense is great.
To a still really damn good, Tyree, Tyree kill, okay, he's not in there, but they use
Jalen Waddle in the, you know, the same sensor or way to stress defenses out.
And yeah, he's not Tyree Kill.
Maybe he's an A-version of that, but still dangerous as hell.
And, you know, I like the dolphins.
I really do.
You know, I've been thinking a lot lately
because I'm like, okay, I know the 49ers
you're going to the Super Bowl in the NMC.
I'm so I ticked before the year,
certainly not coming off of that now,
but the way things look.
But like the AFC,
I've been like, man, I know I'm gonna get asked on these shows,
who do you think it's gonna be in the AFC?
And the more I think about it and kind of let it
ruminate in my brain a little bit,
the more I feel like I wanna say the dolphins on this.
On a consistent basis here.
Yeah, I don't know that when you watch the games back,
you see the broadcast, you hear what the broadcasts are say. So one of the things. Yeah, I don't do that. Yeah, so games back, you see the broadcast you hear with the broadcasters say so one of the things.
Yeah, I don't do that.
Yeah, so one of the things Ramos said during the game was, yeah, Jalen Water looks good,
but you know, you can do this one week without Tyreeke, but after, you know, two, three
weeks, they start figuring it out with Tyreeke.
So Tyreeke needs to get back.
Yes, there's no doubt about that.
You know, you can get away with it one week, but the beauty of what they do is, right, you go
to all in on stopping all the tirey plays and all that.
You become vulnerable and, oh no, now we're in a coverage that's not in good versus
Jalen Wattel or some of the other weapons on the field.
And that's the tirey kill hill effect.
All right, Mike Fuente has one of our producers here has been dying to ask you this question
for many, many weeks.
So Mike, the floor is yours.
Hey, Chris, this is Mike Fuentes.
You know me as Montez.
What's up, Montez?
What's up?
Why does Trevor Lawrence suck?
Not really a question.
It's a statement wrapped in a question.
That's right.
That's what an upward inflection.
Well, he doesn't suck.
All right.
That'd be the first thing, I tell you.
Listen, they're not the same as last year.
He's had a few more bonehead mistakes or decisions, certainly during the year.
But I think you can kind of go around the whole team with that same type of statement.
You know, again, it's Trevor Lawrence didn't miss the two field goals in the first half, right?
Trevor Lawrence didn't manage the game to where we get no points when we could have just clocked the ball
with 13 seconds and taken two shots into the end zone, right?
Instead of, you know, clocking the ball, we try to run a play and throw the
ball into the flat.
That's done Peterson's fault.
I don't care what way or shape, you know, however you want to frame that, that's his
fault.
So I think it's more of Lawrence pressing Lawrence injury and not being 100%.
Their own line's not good.
I mean, again, last year they had Juwan Taylor and Cam Robinson this year
Most people can't name either tackle on the Jacksonville Jaguars
Let alone the interior part of the old lines not that special anyways
So I think lack of pass protection
You know the inability to run the ball really at all over the last five or six weeks
And then it's a offense that's good, but I don't look at it and go,
oh, wow, it's so creative.
It's amazing.
So it can't pick up for some of these things
you're talking about.
And yeah, I think that's leading to a less than Trevor Lawrence
and a less than performance by the Jacks offense.
Does it drive you crazy?
Because we know that you're a big Trevor Lawrence
guy last year.
You said that you thought after you saw him
at the Hall of Fame meme, like he was going to be the next one to take the
next big step.
I was with him by the way.
Does it drive you crazy when you see after that week's performance on social, people
comparing Trevor Lawrence's stats to Daniel Jones's stats through their first 48 career
starts because they are very, very similar.
Yeah, I just think it's a little overblown.
Unless a Trevor Lawrence
didn't get off to a great start in his career. He was a part of easily his rookie year, the
most dysfunctional team in football. It's not even close. In fact, you would go, that
might have been the most dysfunctional season in football in the last 10 years by anybody.
So don't expect to have great numbers first.
Years of Peterson, he had last year where, yeah, the first half of the year wasn't good.
The last 10 games, eight games were phenomenal.
This year, it's been a little bit of a roller coaster ride.
But I think a little bit of it is everything that what we said, let alone.
I don't think Calvin Ridley has kind of come through quite the same way.
The defense isn't as good as last year.
So I think there's a lot of team stuff that I would look at.
But like, you know, the one thing I would say is like, yeah,
they're on a three game losing streak, right?
I mean, he threw seven in completions in 260 yards,
I guess the Cincinnati Bengals could have been better,
sure, as he the reason they lost that game.
I mean, absolutely not.
Their defense can stop a Jake Browning.
They're allowed to.
The Cleveland Browns made some mistakes, definitely.
Made a lot of big plays too.
I think one of the interceptions, maybe two,
weren't even his fault.
But there's no wiggle room for them right now.
He's got to kind of play perfect.
I think is what we're seeing a little here.
And the team around him is just not supporting him the same way
So Montez he doesn't suck. It's just a lot of things going on there with the team and he still has a lead ability in a lot of ways
Montez left. I mean, yeah, it's the question and then bailed on you. He had to go produce
See that's the problem with the whole world right now
Huge statement and then walk out because I'm right.
I don't even want to hear an answer.
That's right.
Take it up with Montez.
He made a good point.
I made a point.
Chris, the NFL is so funny, man.
It really is because last week after they beat the Eagles, the Dallas Cowboys with the best
team in the NFL, then they get blown out by Buffalo and they're not the best team in the NFL anymore.
And now Buffalo is the team that no one wants to see in the playoffs because Josh Allen is a badass.
What did you take away from that Cowboys bills game?
Well, I mean, some of those things are real.
Like, you know, I was saying that before the bills in Cowboys last week,
like, you don't want to see the bills right now.
It's crazy.
They're what?
The number nine seat in the AFC and they're clearly one of the five best teams in football.
Now, they f*** that up and put themselves in that situation.
The eagles were seeing them fall apart here in front of our eyes.
But I think the big thing is, and we've talked about this a lot with Dallas and it came
true. I mean, it always comes true and a lot of big football games
We just didn't expect Buffalo to do it this way Buffalo dominated Dallas at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball
But really I mean of course on the offensive side of the ball for Buffalo to break out the run game to that extent and
Just dominate Dallas's front. I mean, that's alarming.
Kind of like what I've been saying about the Eagles.
You know, I've never seen a team win a Super Bowl that lost three games in a row in December
or even lost to two the way they did before Monday night.
Same thing I'll say with Dallas.
I've never seen a team win the Super Bowl that loses 31 to 10 in the midway point in
December. That doesn't happen, right?
So real good team, sure.
Super Bowl team, that's debatable.
They got major flaws there.
I mean, their linebackers are not good.
Their safes are okay.
Their detacles, especially without Jonathan Hankins, they're small.
They get overpowered.
And I give a lot of credit to Joe Brady and Josh Allen
and Sean McDermott for, you know,
kind of willing their way into a tougher,
more physical offensive football team here
down the stretch.
And hey, for the first time ever,
Josh Allen didn't have to carry the bubble bill.
Somebody else actually helped carry Josh Allen.
And if they want to go to the Super Bowl, they need a little bit better mixture of that to make it there. Chris, which of these backup slash
fill in quarterbacks do you think actually has a shot of being a starter at some point
in time?
It's a good question.
You know, I mean, Gardner Minto of course is in that conversation for me.
You know, I don't know if it's high level starter, right?
But I think he's a guy that team could go,
wait, we're gonna make him the starter.
We're gonna keep options open and looking for other guys.
But hey, if he keeps playing well,
we'll stay with him or if not a parent better option
just jumps out at us, then we'll do that.
Jake Browning, I think, is just a really, really good backup.
I don't look at him to be a starter in the NFL.
Nothing wrong with that, by the way.
I mean, that's very valuable to know.
Nothing wrong with that, NFL.
It is, and I certainly don't mean it to be disrespectful.
It kept him in the playoff race.
Like, he's not going to play off right now.
Exactly right.
Yes, yeah.
I mean, he's Joe Burrow light, right?
I mean, he's like, I talked about with almost like Jalen Waddle as a lesser Tyree kill.
Jake Browning is, he's a lesser talented Joe Burrow, but plays with the same style has
good feel.
Just isn't, doesn't run as well.
You can't fit the ball in the tight windows down the field or even throw the down the field
passes with as much power as Joe Burrow, but there's still a lot of good there.
So I guess what I'm saying is I favored Gordon or Munchy.
Is there anybody else I'm missing that's apparent to you here?
Your boy Tommy DeVito, you don't get into it.
Well, yeah, no, I'm not going with that.
He's never been sold to that.
I never was.
Well, he's like, I respect him.
And I think he can work his way into being a backup.
But yes, starting quarterback, I mean, again, you saw,
there's too many games where you go, they can't even rely on the dropback pass game.
It's not even right.
There's some plays he makes here and there.
But if you'd stopped him from scrambling, which Green Bayden do the week week before, you know, he has a hard time making a lot of stuff happen
in the pocket with his right arm.
What'd you make of Demante Casi, the Steelers defensive back being suspended, not for a game,
not for two, not for three, the rest of the season for something.
I'm not certain.
I know they're trying to clean up the sport, but the sport is violent, Chris, and occasionally,
that's going to happen. I know the NFL wants to send the message, but I feel like that message is too stiff.
The rest of the season is like a lot of games.
Yeah.
I hear you there.
Now, I think when the term rest of the season makes it seem like it's more aggressive,
right?
Yes.
You know, when you really look, yeah, it's a four game suspension, Kareem Jackson,
you know, I think you look at what he did and what he got, right? I believe that was
a four game suspension as well. And it is a repeat, egregiously repeat offender in the
Monte Così. Yes. So I think that's the big problem. And they're one saying, you're showing
district regard for player safety altogether. And I think they're looking saying you're showing disregard for player safety altogether.
And I think they're looking at that play going, you were this close to probably paralyzing
the receiver, right?
He's totally extended, diving out, right?
And I'm all for the old school stuff.
You know me, I'm all about it.
I think it's gone too far in a lot of ways.
But I think the players on defense have gotten good enough now to know, wait, that's a no-win
recipe for me or the guy that's about to catch the football.
I know where the Steelers and we're supposed to be tough and physical, but I thought that
crossed the line.
Now, I will say, like, and I'm all in agreement with Tom Brady.
Again, this is, some of this got to go on the quarterbacks
and stuff. I'm so sick of seeing quarterbacks getting receivers blown up or throwing into quadruple
coverage and we go, oh, first down because it was passing her appearance. And it's like, no,
he threw the ball into a crowd of people. The defense is allowed to touch the ball, too.
There's a lot of bad offenses being rewarded. And that drives me crazy right now too. You
know, you don't protect the quarterback, you get hit a little too hard, they go, well,
first down, you hit too hard, that's not fair. I know you didn't block anybody and you
suck on that play, but here's 15 yards. Oh, hey, you didn't block anybody and you made
a bad decision throwing the ball down the field into triple coverage and they give you
30 yards and you're like, what?
I mean, so that's the, that's drives me crazy a little on Sundays watching games.
I love the idea.
I'm with you.
I'm Brady.
I thought Brady was great on it.
And I do love the idea of the referees throwing a flag and it's 15 yards in the quarterback
for a, you are dashing.
I've been saying, I brought up the same thing, or the quarterback has to pay D'Amante
because he's fine.
Something like that.
Yes, right.
There used to be a time when we were growing up, the early 2000s, where throwing the
receiver a hospital ball was like, not cool, you didn't do that.
That's what Brady's trying to say.
Like, oh, here's a ball, now get your head knocked off. Oh, oh, you hurt screw you bringing a new receiver. And we got 15 yards. I was
a good play by me. I mean, that's what we almost created times there at the quarterback
situation. And yeah, there's, there's got to be something like that, like a legal attempted
manslaughter by Gardner Menshue. 15 yard penalty, bring it back. It's a little crazy.
And you pay Cosy's fine.
I love that.
Hospital ball.
Yes.
Yes, the hospital ball.
Chris, can you explain that to someone who played quarterback at Texas and in the NFL?
Like did you ever have a throw where you just wanted to grab it right back because you
knew you left your receiver out there to draw it?
Oh, I like, when I, I did it, you know, you know, certainly more than
once, but there's one that always sticks in my brain. And like I said, in my day, right,
it was really like, you don't do that. If that windows that tight, you don't get your
receiver killed. You move on to the next, the next guy, because you knew the defenders
were going to knock the guys head off. I threw a pass to Michael, actually Michael Pidman.
Michael Pidman, Jr.'s dad.
Oh, God.
He was running the old, like, what do you call the Texas route?
Like, where you fake your run into the flat,
and then you come back over the middle.
And when I said, said,
Hut, Ray Lewis started dropping back.
So I was like, he's gone.
He's out of there.
Mike Pidman's gonna be wide open. And He's out of there. Mike Pippman's
going to be wide open. And as I turned the throw to Mike Pippman and I was like, this, I was
like, oh no. It's like slow motion. It's like slow motion. And I mean, he got so quickly
destroyed by Ray Lewis. It's like, I didn't even see it happen. He was upright and he was
laying on the ground. There was like no one between. And I really thought I killed Lewis, it's like I didn't even see it happen. He was upright and he was laying on the ground.
There was like no one between.
And I really thought I killed him,
but thank God, Mike Pittman Senior is very tough,
just like Junior is.
What'd you say to Pittman?
I built his looking up the play by the way.
Oh, I was like literally,
I'm so, I was like, I think I came off the side.
I was like, dude, I'm so sorry.
Yeah.
You know, like, he forgave you. How many times you do that on purpose? And then you're like, oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah. You know, like, he forgave you.
How many times you do that on purpose?
And then you're like, oh, I'm so sorry that you got this.
That would be true.
That would be a little better.
Only if you were a wide receiver, Billy.
That's it.
You were the receiver.
And you were wearing that red sweatshirt again
that the Miami-Marlins are not red.
I mean, then, yeah, I throw you to get killed by Ray Lil'
I'm imagining Chris doing this, not like his own kids at the Thanksgiving party.
Like, uh, or a little disobedient this year.
Hey guys, that Texas round is there.
And that Texas round is open.
He wants his brother something.
Yeah, my nephew mouth off to me.
I'm gonna make sure his head just knocked off here by his father.
So, BFT with Mike Floreo every day on Peacock, the Unbutton Boggast football night in America,
apologies to Saturday games, Bengal Steelers, Bills and Chargers, going to mess with Sims
his Saturday. Quickly, before we get you out of here, one corner back we have not spoken
nearly enough about this year. He's had a good year, Chris, is Baker Mayfield.
Like what is happening there?
What are they doing differently with Baker?
That Cleveland maybe wasn't doing.
They gave up on trying to be a run first football team.
Right.
And the biggest thing is they're pushing the ball down the field.
Baker's got a big time arm.
He does.
And he can really throw the ball with great power and accuracy, 25,
30 yards down the field. And then they got the type of receivers to do that. They're protecting
well right now, right? They're running just okay. They're running better because teams
are starting to go, whoa, we got to back up because every time they drop back to pass,
it's like a 30 yard completion. So within that, that's helping
the run game a little bit, but they got a good formula of aggressive down the field and
they're an awesome screen team other underneath. And Baker is approaching a dress right between
a aggressive and reckless, right? He's being aggressive, but not reckless. And if he doesn't
feel like it's open down the field,
he's checking it down to Rashid White, he's making plays or whoever else. And they got to go
on that way. Campbell could be dangerous. Campus problems, they're defense. Like Todd Bowles has
got to stop going all in on stopping the run all the time. They're too aggressive, right. That's his
MO and teams are ready for it. I think if he could they can play a little more conservative on the defensive side of the ball
I think there'll be a real pain in the butt in the playoffs. I give us 30 seconds on each of the two big games here this weekend
We'll start with Cowboys dolphins go ahead. Wow. I just there's so many fascinating things about this like I felt like the Cowboys
Were reluctant to be overly aggressive last week because of like,
you know, Josh Allen and they were afraid he might escape the pocket and then they couldn't
cover Man to Man as long.
But at the same time, when they played kind of conservative, they got gashed in the run
game in other ways.
Like, how aggressive are they going to play it this week and get the dolphins in this fire
power, right?
That's where I'm really interested to see.
The cowboys
are at the best when people at the Linus Krimmage bump and run man to man in your face, but
as we know, that's dangerous against the Miami dolphins. So, and then that dolphins defense
of Vic Banjillo, it gets better every week. So watch out. Yeah. They're good. All right.
And then the big one Monday night, everyone's looking forward to this 49ers and Ravens. Wow.
What a game Chris.
I mean, clash of the Titans. I mean, physicality just in your face, type of stuff. The 49ers are the hottest team in the sport.
We know that, right? But as brilliant as Shanahan is, the dog, I mean, the Ravens will pose some schematic issues or make shenan think a little bit. They're so well coached and creative on that side of the ball.
Plus, they got the defense of front to not have to overplay the run game too much, to give
them some flexibility and the play action in the past game that way, to where that could
even out the playing field a little bit as well. And the other thing is, I mean,
I love the Ravens plays in their offense.
And I, of course, think the 49ers defense
is one of the best in football.
They don't let anybody run the ball on them, the 49ers.
And what I want to say to the Ravens is,
stop justifying everything.
Run the ball.
They're so worried about justifying Lamar's contract
in OBJ and safe flowers in the first round.
And Todd Munkin, they are still at their best
when they run the ball, like you saw
on the third and fourth quarter of the other night.
That's gonna open up everything.
Be like the 49ers.
You know who's leading the league
in the least amount of pass attempts
in football. The 49ers. Brock Purdy. Any second and yards behind two of. So you can be explosive
in a high flying offense. Why also being a running football team and they get to pass happy, but I'm
excited to watch that game more than any. That's going to be an awesome Christmas night game there
to settle into.
What is your Sunday going to look like? I feel like this is your first Sunday you've had
often a long time, right? Oh, it's going to be a Sunday. It's going to be a Sunday
Christmas.
Oh, baby, Christmas Eve. It's a double whammy. It's smoky, smoky, drinky, drinky. It's
going to be not Christmas without trees. You know it. So we're going to have some fun.
I'm going to be watching football in the couch and I'm going to be definitely and having fun.
It's going to be fun.
I'm definitely going to be texting a lot of things to my wife on the phone because I'm going
to be scared.
I won't remember them the next day.
All right.
So that's what we're doing.
Perfect.
He does this all the time.
He texted when he's high.
He's drinking smoke.
He went to the kitchen. And texts there just as a reminder to himself
of things and thoughts that he has that he needs
to get on with the following day
and his wife regurgitate some back.
So he has no idea what they mean.
He treats his wife like a post.
It's not exactly exactly.
So next week, let's start there.
I want to start with what text you sent to your wife.
Yeah.
All right.
All right. All right. Sounds good. All right. BFD, Mike Floreo,
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four over the 49ers. Those are the picks, everyone. Happy Holidays. My goal is going to join us in
just a second here on God bless football. We came bearing gifts. Mike, me, Mike, E.A. and Billy
figured, what do you get the man who has everything? And you have everything. And so we realized, you know, as we approach the holiday season
here, that you don't really like talking football with us.
So we come bearing gifts today, a big gift.
It's a hall of famer.
It's someone you enjoy talking football with.
It is our friend Tony Bacelli.
This is our gift to you, Michael Goliq senior. It feels like
a right.
He's setting it up like it's something great about my mom a massage from Groupon.
I know every year.
Billy's right, but Goliq, is it fair that you really you would dare us, but you really
don't like talking football with us because we don't know what the hell we're talking
about, right?
No, but you guys are entertaining in the fact that you come up with ideas that are outlandish,
like changing baseball rules and things like that. I get a kick out of that. You're your BCS
ranking. You're giving us death. Yeah, but but when I can actually talk exes and owes and
football with one of the best to ever do it, Right. Obviously, I would choose that over you three frigging clowns.
So yes.
Yes.
Well, Merry Christmas to you, Mike.
Yeah.
Because I Tony.
I'm Mike.
How you doing, man?
I'm good.
How are you?
He seems alike to get.
I mean, good.
Well, you know, well, it's always nice to be with the great.
So when I called the Detroit and Denver game and the three people
I saw there from Detroit, Lomas Brown, now he does radio. So I see him all the time. Lomas
Brown, Chris Spielman and Herman Moore. And, and you know, I was talking with someone
about, yeah, I got to run into these guys and I was like, oh, that must have been cool.
I said, yeah, I said, yeah, all of his great players like to hang out together. And they're
like, oh, that's cool. I'm like,
no, I said, that's a joke. I'm kidding. I said, one of these things doesn't belong.
That's me. I don't believe it, but belong with those guys.
But I don't know about that. He played for a long time. Lankz matter.
Yeah. Well, yes, it does, Tony. Well, yes. Lankz does matter.
Yes. He's been writing saying that immediately. He's been saying that immediately.
As soon as that came out of my mouth, I'm like, I hope my wife doesn't hear that.
I don't know if Tony regretted that more when Lancashmatt has come out of this mouth
or if Jalen Hurtz regretted it more when he said the team lacks commitment.
So, that's quickly he wanted to back pedal on that one.
Back.
Walk back.
Mike, we did discuss the fact that if the Eagles lose some games, the chiefs lose some
games, that stuff like this would happen where fans were teammates would start questioning
other guys on the team.
And in this case, it's, it's Jalen Hertz coming out after the Eagles have lost three straight,
saying the team's not entirely focused.
Now, you and Tony Bicelli, good guys, team guys. I don't envision you guys ever saying something
like that publicly about your team or any of your teammates. So Mike, I will start with you,
then we'll go to Tony. How'd you feel about Jalen Hertz's comments?
Well, I, like I said, I'm sure as soon as he said it, he was trying to think of unsaying
it. And at that point, what I would have done is I said, listen, guys, I'm sick and I
have a whole lot of medicine in me right now. And I don't know what I would have done is I said, listen guys, I'm sick and I have a whole lot of medicine in me right now and I don't know what I'm saying goodbye and then walk off.
Because you don't want to have to answer that, you don't want your teammates to have to answer
because, you know, that's what reporters will do. They'll go to the rest of the team and they'll
say, this is what your quarterback said. What does he mean? So I don't know what he meant by it.
I've never heard any type type of follow up on it,
but it's something you never want to say publicly because then you end up starting to write checks.
Other people have to cash and that's something no other play. You don't want to you don't want to be
talking about something other than the game coming up or you know what you're dealing with. And the best way that I can would respond, Tony, would
always be, don't point to finger pull the thumb. Just don't do that because it just sets
you up in a way where everybody else has to answer questions for you.
Yeah, you never want to be interested. You don't want to add to the noise and the
inspections that are already out there. And I think, you know, good rule of thumb,
you know, I tried to always do it.
It's talking general about the game,
what's going on, what went well,
when it didn't, what's coming up.
And then if you're ever gonna be critical,
just talk about your own game,
like what you need to do.
Because you can always,
didn't you not asking anyone else
to, you know, respond to something you said.
And he was focused on what you could do.
And I think the hard part about Jaylin's comment,
it's so ambiguous.
ambiguous, you don't know, like what is he discussing?
Is it commitment to guys showing up,
working, studying the playbook?
Or that can mean, hey, we need to be committed
to getting back to the fundamentals of doing
the little things right.
Those are wildly different.
Like the second ladder comments, I can't, it's just saying we need to get back to the
basics and do a better job.
The first one, you're calling individual guys out.
Now everyone in the media and everyone in the locker room wants to know who's he talking
about.
Right.
It was Jason Kelsey, guys, just so we know.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure it was.
And the thing about it is, let's look at this year and also remember, other teams are
getting paid.
I mean, who won the Super Bowl last year?
Kansas City.
How are they fairing right now?
Right?
I mean, they're nine and five.
They don't look like the Super Bowl champs have looked.
Look at the Buffalo Bills, a team we put right at the top of the AFC. They don't look like the Super Bowl champs have looked. Look at the Buffalo Bills,
a team we put right at the top in AFC.
They're fighting to get even into the playoffs.
The only one I think you can really say,
oh yeah, that team's got it going on.
It's San Francisco.
They went through the injury bug early in the season
with Debo Samuel and Trent Williams, lost three in a row.
And that's what a lot, as Tony knows,
a lot of it is about is when do you get hurt?
When do you get, because every year someone gets hurt.
When do you get hurt?
When do you get healthy?
And I always say one of the great sayings, and I saw this when my brother Bob's 77 Notre
Name Team won the National Championship.
I think it was the second game of the season.
They lost to Ole Miss.
And then they ended up in the bowl game to play Texas who was number one in the country with their old
Campbell as they're running back and Notre Dame beat the crap out of them on the national championship and
On the on the board in the locker room it said it's not where you start. It's where you finish and that's what it is in the NFL
too, you know hit your groove at the right time at the end of the year and things will be okay because the top teams
We know about other than San Francisco are all kind of laying eggs here and there.
Mike, I think it's even more appropriate for the NFL. I mean, in football, you can get eliminated
because of the system. Right. The NFL, it doesn't matter. I mean, the fact that the 49ers lost
three in a row and they were beat up midseason, who cares? And by the way, there's still three weeks left.
Every team is an injureer to her way
from not being relevant
and not having their team ready for the playoffs.
So you gotta let this thing play out.
I thought the Eagles were gonna be a different team this year
because if you look at that offense last year,
and I think you're now looking
what Indianapolis is doing, Shane Stuykin is a really good that offense of year. And I think you're now looking what Indian apples is doing. Shane Stuykin is a really good offense of mind. And you go back to Herbert's early days
while he had success. Guess who his coach was? It was Shane Stuykin. I mean, Shane
Stuykin is one of the better offensive minds. And I thought losing him was an under reported
story. You know, you look at all the stuff this week is how predictable
they are on offense, not much creativity. People figured them out. You know, whether that's
true or not or whether it's just guys aren't playing well in jail and so or whatever.
It's not the same offense. And in that defense was great last year because they played with
a lead every week, a two possession lead where they could pin their ears back. And Mike, you know, it's a defense alignment. When you're,
when you stop worrying about stopping the run, because you know, guys have to pass, yeah,
advantage defense. And now you have that offense line on their heels and they're, and they
can't do what they want to do.
All right, guys, let me present this scenario to you because I don't want to harp on this
too long, but Jason Kelsey did respond to Jalen Hertz's comments today.
So clearly Kelsey feels like maybe the rim that him, he's had some penalties on the last
couple of weeks that have cost the Eagles in big spots.
Jalen Hertz as the captain, as the leader of that team, as a guy who outplayed Patrick
Mahomes in a Super Bowl of the Eagles lost last year.
What if what he is saying is actually accurate?
What if the guys aren't as invested as he would like them to be or as they were last year?
What if Jason Kelsey because he's doing a podcast because he's shooting a thousand commercials
with his brother is not as focused. Is it still wrong for Jalen Hertz to say that?
It's wrong in my opinion. And first off, I'm not there. But boy, to think that
that he is mercy. Yeah. No, I know, I'm getting to the point. Okay. First off, to think that
would be Jason Kelly would blow my Jason Kelsey would blow my mind. Okay. Second, does
Jalen Hertz have the right to say that? Yes. In the locker room, I would never say that
publicly. But I hope he is asked that in the locker room. I hope never say that publicly, but I hope he has asked that in the locker
room. I hope he has gone up to whoever whatever player he feels hasn't committed enough. I hope
as a leader, he has talked to that person in the locker room. I don't need to hear it.
I don't need to hear him say it publicly. And you know what? He doesn't owe the media.
He doesn't owe the fans to say that.
He doesn't need to tell the world. I don't think some players are committed. He needs to have that
discussion in the locker room behind closed doors with those players. That's how I would handle it.
And some would say that's the old school way. And but you know what? There's a whole lot of old
school that still works in the new school. Yeah, don't air your dirty laundry in public. That's not what you do. There's certain things that
need to stay in the locker room, be handled in the locker room. And if it's a guy not doing his job,
a group of guys not preparing properly, you make that, you have that discussion. First of all,
you do it one on one with that individual. And then if this stuff isn't getting taken care of, then you can call out the whole
locker room can get involved.
But the last thing you do is go to the media.
There's no upside for the Eagles.
There's no upside for Jalen Hertz.
And as far as Jason Kelsey, I have no idea who he's talking about.
I would watch the last couple of games on tape, but I watched it quite a few earlier in
the year.
Kelsey, I don't care how he's preparing,
it's still one of the best enters in football.
Right.
So I didn't see it any drop off on film
because of his commercials or being one
of the sexiest men alive,
which I was very proud of him for.
I was very happy.
Just Kelsey to me, and I'm not the locker room,
so maybe something's changed in the last
couple of weeks.
He's a pro's pro.
He's one of the best centers in the NFL.
I'd be shocked if it's him.
Say what you will about Jason Kelsey.
They say if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
And the other story that came out is that Jason Kelsey's regularly cheating and moving
the ball up a couple of inches at a time.
So every center does.
Everybody.
Exactly right.
He's clearly trying.
I want to ask you guys both because this is interesting.
I'm glad I had both of you today.
We talked to Austin, Eckler earlier this week, his coach was fired.
I asked him, did you guys quit on your coach?
And he like scoffed at me.
And he said the notion that we would quit on a coach, that means you're quitting on yourself,
that means you're quitting on your teammates. That means you're quitting on
your friends. And so do you believe in that concept where a coach with a message is gotten
so old where a team would actually quit on their coach?
I told you, go ahead Mike. I'm sorry. I mean, it's fine. But to say quit on your coach,
you know, what are you saying? You're not listening to anything he says anymore.
You're not following the game plan.
I mean, to me, that's ridiculous and that's on the player.
Every player goes, you know, by the time you're in the NFL,
I should need a coach to motivate me.
If I can't motivate myself to go out and play again,
it's a Tony Bacelli, there's something wrong with me.
And just from the self-preservation mode, there are 53 players and then however many on the practice squad,
some are locked in and have a job.
The majority in the middle, which was me, foot soldiers, you're kind of playing year to year,
sometimes you feel you're better off than other times.
And others are playing on the back end of the roster. Man, they're playing and praying at God, they have a job around the practice
squad. So that by the end of the year, when you're not playing for the playoffs, it is self-preservation time.
So to think that they're not trying as hard on the field because of the coach, to me, is idiotic.
You're still trying hard on the field because now you're trying to me, is idiotic. You're still trying hard on the field
because now you're trying to get a new contract,
keep your job, whatever the reason is.
So I don't understand the quit on the coach.
We're not gonna play hard for you
because we don't think you should be here
is doing nothing but hurting yourself on the field.
Yeah, I've always had a problem
when whether it's fans or media,
and now whatever, say it,
it looks like the team is quit.
Because here's the deal, it mics right.
That tape lives forever.
Now, what I do think happens, and I think this looks like quitting at times, or not being
prepared or not playing the best, I do think whether it's a coach's message getting
stale, a team being
out of it, underperforming. I don't think the preparation during the week is
as sharp. And I don't think you have clean practices and maybe you instead of
spending a couple hours watching film, you watch 30 minutes of it. Like I don't
think your preparation is as good. And that impacts the quality of your effort. And in coupled with and this was talked about I did the Thursday night game where that was just it was over early
Football's an emotional game and when the emotions are sucked out of you
Because you're looking at the scoreboard and it's like oh my gosh. I don't think you are trying less
I just think emotionally it is hard down in and down out to get yourself going.
And especially if you have a prepped the way you know you should.
And that can be due to a lot of different factors in human nature and everything else.
And I think sometimes that gets translated by the media or fans is like, oh, that guy
quit.
I don't think anybody quits because here's the other thing.
You go half ass out on that field,
you are setting yourself up to get hurt physically hurt.
So during the week guys, you have your schedule
and say on Thursdays or whatever,
Monday's Thursdays or Wednesdays, you go in,
you went in every year at 730 to lift.
Now maybe, you know what, you get in at eight o'clock,
you don't lift as hard after practice, maybe,
or now I don't know they have it on the iPads and stuff. Maybe you don't lift his hard after practice. Maybe or now I don't know they have it on
the iPads and stuff. Maybe you don't watch as much film as you normally did. Sometimes
a group of players are going together and watch. Sometimes someone I will splinter off
and I'm going to get home. So he is exactly right. It's the preparation during the week. It's
not the trying on the field. Unless, and this one guys, I'm not gonna lie,
this one pissed me off bad.
George Pickens from Pittsburgh.
When this guy out on a play, out on the edge blocking,
stops blocking a guy while his running back
is coming his way, and the guy comes off of him
that he quit blocking on and makes a tackle.
And he brings up, I didn't want the tank del situation.
I didn't want someone running into the back
of my legs and hurting me.
So he frigging quit on his other 10 guys
because he was concerned about
what might happen to him on the field.
That, I can't tell you how much that angered me
because to a man, anybody that's finished playing playing this game has said what do you miss most?
I missed the locker room. I missed the team. I missed the comrider. I missed the fellows being together and this guy
went on that play on his team. I don't want to sit here and throw back in my day thing,
but you guys know the personalities on my team and fill when buddy Ryan was a coach I can't even fathom if we were in the film room and that play ran in there and that guy stopped and
Everybody asked a why and he said I didn't want to get hurt
What might have happened to him in that film room?
That was a joke to me and then you hear
Rich eyes and saying TJ Watt had told told him that some of the younger guys didn't really practice
that hard or didn't really practice the way Tomlin wanted him to.
And I started thinking Mike Tomlin's going to be in football hell.
You know, if all of a sudden these guys aren't doing the things that he wants them to do
because he is a great coach, but Tony, I'm not going to lie, that one got me.
When you're on the field and you just basically say,
I don't give a damn about the other guys on my team,
I'm not blocking this guy anymore
because I might get hurt.
Well, yeah, Mike, but I think that also goes back
to what the locker room or the coach allows during the week.
Because that is not picking just deciding
at that moment to do that.
That is behavior of how you prepare,
how you practice that is allowed
for whatever reason in the locker room.
And I'll go back, I mean, because you're right.
I mean, we had good years and bad years when I was in Jacksonville,
but one thing we had is a strong locker room,
and I'm not gonna name the guy,
but we had a young player who was really talented.
And, but he liked, he didn't like to prepare correctly and he
didn't like always showing up on time and he didn't like always doing what he needed to
do at night during the week.
And so we we just had enough of it and we took care of it in the locker room and we made
sure he understood through a set of actions that we then happened that that behavior was not tolerated
and that wasn't going to be okay and that's not who we were. And so I think the George
Pickens stuff, you get what you allow. And so why are you allowing that if you're Mike
Tom? Can he recover from that with his teammates? Well, well, I mean, there's only one way
you can recover and that's
by
being out in the field and doing your job and but
member you had dante johnson as well not diving on a live the not diving on a
live ball right and you try and look at leadership in the locker room and and
for that team it's basically
what it's cam hayward and it's tj what right i mean those are really the
veteran leaders of that team.
So Tony's right, that stuff that when the team sees that happen,
that should be, and I'm not saying you got to sit there and knock a guy out in the locker room,
though, I'm sure, that's, yeah.
I'll let that one.
Tony's laughing, I mean.
I'll let that one, I'll let that one.
Tony name names, I mean, I like that one. But that one name names. I mean, just name it.
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
I mean, great lock rooms.
And you have a, you have good friendships and everything.
I don't know how it is today, but when I was playing, there were fights.
Yeah, things handled.
And I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
Exactly. Right. I'm not giving you my, I have an opinion that I'm going to eat that
aside. Right.
Things were handled in the locker room. And my, my problem, I agree with you. I have
a ton of respect for Mike Tomlin and what he's done is a coach. At the end of the day,
though, that's a reflection on him. Whether like it doesn't matter.
And at some point is a coach and as a team, you have to make a decision.
And you have to make a statement. And I think the time the statement is, if that's who you are, then you're not going to play.
And it might hurt the overall team, but it sends them to the stage because you're not going to go anywhere with those guys anyway.
And so you might as well bite the bullet and say, not on my team, you play like that, you practice like that. That's the effort
you give. You can just be an active. I don't care.
Oh, guys, I know Tony has to run here. Tony, we appreciate it. The Hall of Famer always
nice enough to spend a few minutes. Mike stay here for just a second here. But Tony, I
just want to let you know on the way out. If you want to get love it hard, a little holiday gift, okay?
He's doing that thing again, where, you know, his crusade and football, where he enjoys
watching it, but he cringes as he watches it.
Do you want to let him have it or what do you want to do?
He's a hypocrite.
He's a hypocrite in the meeting.
I mean, let's talk about how bad football is and all this nonsense and blah,
blah, blah, blah.
But then he's made a whole career in living, by the way,
very comfortable living on the back of the game of football.
And so maybe he should remember, maybe he should just go in
whatever bank he's at, get online and look at his account and how much
he's in there and his investment account and then re- reevaluate what he says about the game of football.
Boom.
There you go.
Stock the land.
He's only happy holidays to you.
We even talk about the Jaguars who might not
make the playoffs.
Tony's there.
Oh, so I got to listen, we got a game.
Number one, our quarterbacks in the concussion portal,
protocol, whatever call you.
We got Tampa who's playing well.
We have three straight and all of a sudden, can't stop people. We can't get out
of it. I mean, it's, it's a tough situation. We'll find out though. Um, eight and three
to eight six happens real quick. Yeah. Well, balance. Don't play. Don't play, baby.
Bully checked out there. Tony, all day to you and your family.
Thanks, Tony.
The whole thing bus.
The whole thing bus needs to be more centered.
Tony, okay?
It needs to be more centered in your show.
I got it.
Look at when it someone gave me.
Look at this thing.
It's the company that is those beanie babies.
And they don't give me stars.
My wife.
Oh, that's so cool.
Mike, look at that thing, man.
That is very cool. That's what you get when you're a hall of family. You get good stuff like that. Mike, look at that thing, man. That is very cool.
That's what you get when you're a hall of family.
You get good stuff like that.
Well, you know what it was?
For sure, Mike.
It was a nice,
out.
We get this side of fun.
I had a fundraiser with the House for our foundation.
And this guy shows up with the gift because I have a gift for you.
Mike, okay.
So his company makes WWE the championship belt for you. Okay, so his company makes WWE the championship belts for wrestling. And he says,
I had this made for you, big Jag fan. And so I said, I'll put it in my office. So it
was pretty cool. It's very cool. So what you get when you're one of the best ever, you
know what I get when I walk into the hall of fame, they say, that'll be $14, please.
When you get your wife putting to be me two beanie babies up in your office.
That's what you do.
All right, Tony.
Tony, I need to get you out of here, but have you worn that naked?
Oh, God.
The belt.
The fact that these two, I don't even know how that baby's.
You're mine.
I just why you think about me naked.
Billy. It was the beanie babies. You're mine. I just why you think about me naked. Billy. It was the beanie babies.
I'm not. I'm not. It was an odd question. Um, but I would if I were. No, you know what?
I'm not against trying it. I mean, there you go. There you go. It's Christmas. Listen,
Michael Irvin told the stories on the show of him, you know, having sex with the jacket on. I'm just saying, okay? You've done that, Tony. Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, log off, Tony,
you don't want to be part of this anymore. The playmaker. All right. See, it's really
quick. Before we get you out of here, the two big games this weekend, it's rare, Mike, where you have a weekend with her two potential Super Bowl previews, okay?
So the first one, the Ravens at Niners, just your thoughts on that game, Mike Ravens
and Niners.
Listen, the Niners are the best team in football, the deepest team in football.
My biggest question here is, what does San Francisco do to contain Lamar Jackson?
Because those guys love to freewheel
rush. And that's going to give Lamar ways out of the pocket to do some damage. So let's
see what they do there. I still like San Francisco. This could be a Super Bowl matchup.
The way both teams are playing right now. But I like San Francisco and that one.
All right. The other one, which has significance to Billy here, the dolphins and the cowboys.
Cowboys, it's funny, Mike, best team in the NFL after they beat the Eagles and they can
blow it out by the bills. They're no longer good. And no one wants to face the bills,
but that's the NFL. But dolphins and cowboys, what are your thoughts here?
It is amazing. Everybody was on McCarthy at the beginning of the year. Nobody was on McCarthy
coming up to now when they were winning and everybody's on McCarthy again. It's amazing how
that happens. You saw Zach Martin got nicked up.
He should be fine for this one.
Listen, Miami, Miami's still more of an enigma to me
than Dallas.
Dallas, I think, is such a good team running the ball,
passing the ball defensively, I think,
is the difference again in this one.
While Miami has the heavy hitters
and can score at the drop of a hat with their
receivers, once Ty Rieka is obviously back of what they can do and hit it quick. But
you got to deal with Micah Parsons or what he's doing on the defensive side. I think Dallas
will get back into it. I think they will ground and pound a little more in this one with
that old line and the running game. So I think Dallas gets back on the winning ways after getting smoked last week.
It feels like whoever wins this game, Mike, the public's going to discredit regardless.
The dolphins win. They finally win a team with a winning record. It's like, oh, but Dallas
is freefalling. They were frauds. And if you know, Dallas, it's like, well, Miami can
never beat a winning team anyways. It's because we've seen both sides of these teams
and like the Eagles, we've seen the good and really bad.
So you haven't seen the consistency and you can lay the consistency of the bad of the
three game losing streak per San Francisco again on some injuries and they've been money
since then.
Go Joe and Goliath weekdays eight to 10 a.m. on the draft Kings Network and wherever you
get your podcast, Goliath and Smeti as well.
Mikey A, it never fails.
It never fails. When I have Goliath and Bisselli on,
I will always get some version of this text.
I'm such a football nerd.
I love this stuff.
He does.
He does.
He does.
That's true.
He just, I do.
He sits right in front of the smile on his face.
It's unbelievable.
It is fun.
It is fun talking football with a football guy.
Not that I don't love you guys,
but you know
It's in a different way. Yeah, that's right. I try. I love you differently. Yes
You love us. You're not in love with us. I know true true. You know what I love you very different Mike
We just love you. That's it all your wards and everything we love you. Okay, we do
Appreciate that and I would wear that belt naked without question. Okay, good. Of course you mark that down
I'm gonna get you one I would wear that belt naked without questions. Okay, good. Of course you mark that down, but I'm gonna get you one. I would do it. Okay, well, tell Chris it's coming.
I've done other things like that in front of her. Let's just say let's just say she's kind of
call us to the whole thing already. So nothing would surprise her. What's on TNX? Not even. Alright guys, enjoy the games this week.
Thanks.
Where's Gord, by the way?
Yesterday, Billy texted me, he's like,
hey, we're going to do the show too.
That's the guy, that's okay.
I'm like, I Gordy, who was sober for what a month now.
He's so close.
He texted me at four o'clock and says,
I'm so drunk right now. I'm blacked out.
He texted you while blacked out. Huh?
Yeah. And then he said he sent me and Billy a video of him doing an ice-lood shot.
Party. And then I said, all right, well, two o'clock tomorrow and he goes two a.m. I go, I go,
yeah, Gordy Art shows that two a.m. buddy. Maybe that's where he is.
Carl Douglas at some point. He is going to,
like Carl is going to be representing one of you at some point. Yeah, I can't wait.
It's going to be a turn of going against you. I can't wait.
Hey, Carl, it's kind of crazy to say, but anytime I'm bored going about, I just watched
Norman Donald's OJ jokes for 30 minutes. I think you a lot. So, uh, there you go, buddy, you're
my mind. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. That's a weirdest couple.
Carl, we need OJ on the end.
Carl said, thank you.
Carl, we need OJ on this, okay?
We need him on one week.
I haven't talked to OJ.
I haven't talked to him.
I mean, it kind of owes you.
Carl, you got him off.
I mean, Jesus.
I know.
No, he loves me.
People tell me he loves me.
Right.
He's on Twitter, not. He's on Twitter. He's on Twitter.
He's on Twitter.
Nonstop.
Let's look.
He's just between us friends. Carl.
He did it right.
He loves you.
No.
He loves you Carl.
He loves you.
No, I thought he did before the trial.
Right.
No.
You're such a good lawyer.
You convinced yourself. You love didn't fit. Yeah. Right. No. You're such a good lawyer. You convinced yourself.
You loved it and fed it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Look at Carl Levy.
I love him.
I love him.
You said your hips on that Carl.
Hey.
I was dancing at a party this weekend.
I'm good.
I'm getting better.
Were you really?
I had my office party Thursday night.
I was dancing.
This is amazing.
Ju-ju is here. Hello, Ju-ju.
Whoa.
What did do my family? I was so always honored to be here and be a part of this game, man.
I had all the love in the world. Y'all, I'm happy holidays.
Same to you, Ju-ju.
How about your Eagles, everybody?
Yeah, it hurts bad. I was sad.
Gina and it was the Seahawks, which makes it extra-specialty pointy that night.
They turned it in my chest.
We dropped the ball and then drew a lot.
And then I had to post about it.
As if we were fries,
it's like, I'm real in right now, K-Funk.
Yeah.
Ju-ju comes on with this nice message
of so nice to be with you.
Hey, K-Funk comes over to Tom with,
how about your fucking U?
Yeah, yeah. And Ju-ju comes in nice and fucking man. Hey, that's how you do it. nice to be with you and K-Po comes over to come with how about your fucking new guy?
I heard you were in Miami and two gots couldn't give you five minutes of your time yesterday.
I mean honestly one of those things like I was literally willing to go so far out of my way like I was literally willing to go so far out of my way. I was stalling things to try to pull it off. What the fuck did I do?
I mean, what are you doing?
I'm just sitting here for seven hours.
I mean, I was trying to hold an extra day and everything.
By the way, Mikey, if he loses his next fantasy game
has to oppose nude in a calendar.
And so, yes.
We're thinking, yes.
Wait a second.
No, we're gonna do.
Okay, we're not saying nude.
How is rising position?
Very stages of undress. Okay, so we're thinking next year, the loser, whoever has the worst record next year,
we'll have to do the same.
Well, something the same fate.
You guys give it that Carl.
Yeah, calendar all year long.
I mean, I'll do it this year if you guys want.
I don't think anything.
I was gonna say you have nothing to lose here.
I vote this year.
So, guys, last week I asked Carl this Carl drink, and today he's very much is telling us
he does.
Look at all of the bottles around him.
Yes.
I didn't see you guys.
The second bar.
The second bar.
Wait, so Gord has five fridges.
Carl has five bars. I this is, I ain't never told nobody it is.
I haven't told you how this is going to be.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do. No idea. That's a gift for Don't You or what? Look, that's a great, that's a great caveat.
Cause this is, I ain't never told nobody this.
I haven't told y'all this since last year.
If y'all think about it, you remember the most expensive bottle I have in my house is an emin-smith sign bottle of his tequila that he gave to two guys.
But he forgot it and the super bowl.
I want it.
I was wondering what happened to that thing. That's so great.
And I'm stuck with an Elijah Craig bottle sign by Max Holmer.
Juju, I want that. Very Christmassy.
All right, let's get to the games. Carl, go into you first. Okay. We have Lions at Vikings. Vikings
plus three and a half. Man, all these games are big games with the exception of the second one
Lions at Vikings Vikings plus three to half Carl who you take it here?
I think the lines are gonna turn it around so I'm going with the lines. I'll give up the points. All right, okay, fuck who you take it
Just give me I'll take I'll take the Vikings here. They never shot to make a playoffs. So right? Yes, they do. Yep
All right, they're at their home. Give me Vikings, even though I do like the Lions, but give them Vikings.
All right, share bear, who you taking here?
I probably would have taken the Lions, but last Saturday,
I played about four hours.
I picked a lot of Chris Humphries, a little Minnesota native.
Right.
And guys, good man, guys got some length.
That was a good tennis player before he grew.
And I'm going to go with the Vikings.
I'm a Minnesota guy now. Okay
Could you put a ball with Chris on freeze?
Juju who you taking it? We have Vikings. We have the Lions. It's at Minnesota Vikings are plus three to have
four or five words. I'm on Ross St. Brown. I'm going with the Lions this week. They need to win
They need to spawn back and Detroit. The Andy Troy feeling the city is alive. The Vikings are in the way.
All right. Is that four or five words? We get to two.
I think yeah, I might have been two.
That's all good. Neither.
Let's go to the next game. Commanders at Jets, the Jets somehow are a three point
favorite after being shut out by the dolphins last week. Let's
go to a K funk first year K funk. Are you taking commanders at jets jets minus three?
I mean, you know, I've been riding the jets a lot this year. I don't know why I mean,
because they're because they're defense, but what happened to me last week? I'm going
to take the commanders, give me the commanders. Okay. All can't learn more. All right. Call Douglas who you taking here. Commanders at Judge. Judge minus three at home. As a tribute to Aaron Rodgers not playing
this year, I'll take the commanders. Okay.
Judu, who you taking commanders at Judge? I'm gonna take the commanders. I think Jacobi
percent look good in the little time he had last week.
So if they give him another shot,
I can see the win.
Like three points.
Were you shocked that Jacobi percent
was still in the NFL, G2?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That has been like pretty decent at every stop he's had.
No idea, but we were all surprised.
Carl was shaking his head.
Yes, I had no idea.
It was still cool.
I had no idea.
All right, who hasn't picked this game?. I knew I was a pick this game.
Share bear. I was never a jet fan but I run it out there night with my this girl I met
and her best friend his husband was Nick Baud while we're in the full back of the jet
so I'm kind of going that route but I went to a Washington game and you got great parking
there. You can get really tight. A close and I'm going to go I'm going to go to commanders
great parking. You go with the parking? A lot of
parking available. It's not just that's not the judge by the
way to say you know, well, what's the luck? They're doing a
viewing point.
parking just got easier.
All right, first it was banks, first it was banks now it's
parking. Yeah.
Carl, you'll be representing one of them at some point.
Browns and Tom Browns and Texan,
Giu, Browns and Texans Texans plus two and a half at home.
Browns with Joe Flacco Texans again without CJ Stroud.
Giu, I'll start with you.
Who you taking here?
Yeah, man.
That's a big problem without CJ Stroud.
And I spilt out Joe Flakko,
got no more as flocking right now.
So I'm gonna take the brownies.
Okay, were you surprised that Case Keenum was still in the NFL?
Yes, I was.
We were still doing the Minnesota clap.
I was like, dammit.
Let's go to my share bear here.
Who you taking?
Browns, detections, detectionsans at home plus do it a half
I went to a browns game once my partner brand sider was being
recruiting by Andre david's age and
Who watched one play from from the field and the rest of the whole rest of the game was inside the bar
It's a cold place tough place to play. I'm going to Browns. Okay Carl, who you taking here, games in Houston. No, they're in a dome. Yeah, yeah, it's there. You know what?
Parking is great though. The parking is great news. Hey, listen, I like the
parking and clean then something with the brown.
Okay, fuck you taking your browns and Texans Texas place to have?
I'm on the the the juju train here. I went to strip up at Walker flock. Oh, okay
I'm gonna go walk a flock go on this one and give me the browns, baby
I'm good. What what what's that connection? I like it. I love it. I like a walk of
Flacco. Come on. They have how long?
I wish they could tell us that story.
Get them on the pod to cowboys at Dolphins big game.
Two big games coming up guys.
All right.
Cowboys at Dolphins dolphins minus one and a half points at home.
Man, this is a big game.
It's going to be a fun game.
Share bear going to you first.
Tell us who has the better parking situation.
Go ahead. Yeah, right. I mean, I'll tell you Who has the better parking situation? Go ahead.
Yeah, right. I mean, I'll tell you what, the kikis and the rivers not have good parking
on Sunday nights. You're on. Yeah. It is bad. Wow. It was a fun time. No. Um, I wouldn't
mind a back. I wouldn't mind running it back this Sunday. So, uh, so it's good to run
it back after a win. So let's go to dolphins. Okay. Taking the dolphins. Let's go to
a car. Carl, who you taking here? Cowboys at dolphins dolphins minus one and a half?
The cowboys have played so poorly on the road and against 500 teams. I got to go with the dolphins and give up the points. Okay.
Okay, Funk, are you taking here?
In my last three weeks on the show, I have three losses. Two of those were me going against my own team.
Right.
Yeah.
Dawkins.
I got to stick with my dolphins here.
Okay.
Juju, who you taking your cowboys at Dolphin's Dolphin's minus one and a half points?
I'm gonna mix some of the share bear logic with the K-Fort logic.
You know, when I grew up, when I was growing up, Dave Sipers, I used to have a cowboy
on his show and he's a doodorobat.
In my cousin, he is Tyree Hill.
So I'm gonna go with the dolphins.
Okay.
Oh God, I love you all.
Raven's last game, Monday night, God, what a game.
Raven's at 49ers, 49ers, a five point favorite.
Juju can start with you here.
Who you taking?
Mm.
I feel like at this juncture in life,
in this juncture of the season,
and just this juncture of Earth's existence in space,
you will be kind of crazy to go against the 49ers
at this juncture, man.
They got MVP candidates up and down the roster.
I'm going with the 49ers.
Okay.
All right, taking the 49ers.
Okay, Funk, who you taking here? 49ers. Okay. All right. Take the 49ers. Okay, folks, who you taking here 49ers minus five at home,
taking on the Ravens? Yeah, I don't think this is going to be close.
I don't think the NFC is going to be close. The AFC, there's a few teams that are
contenders, but give me the Niners today. Give me the Niners every
thing you did. The Niners are are well, well, well, machine
there. Okay. A lot of f**ks. Yeah. Let's go to, uh, let's go to Carl. Carl, who are you taking here?
Stu got this is going to be a Super Bowl preview.
Oh, somebody said the other game is a Super Bowl preview though, Carl.
The offensive. I'm saying this is going to be a Super Bowl preview because the
Niners are at home. I give it to them.
I give up the point. I think the Niners. Okay. Take the Niners and share bear. We have
Ravens at Niners game of the weekend Monday night. I mean, I just feel like ever since Levi
Stadium got rid of anyone that wore khakis, the Harboros are just not happy. You know,
they just they go in there with the vengeance, you know. Yeah. And yeah, it was ever it was
ever a city that that travels the well, all the airports in you know. And if there's ever a city that travels the well,
all the airports in your Baltimore,
I just feel like they're gonna travel well, the Ravens.
I mean, a lot of opportunities to get out to San Francisco.
So I'm going to Ravens.
A lot of flights out of BMI, is that what you're saying?
Well, no, there's a lot of airports.
You got BMI, you got Dulles, you got Ravens?
Yeah, Ravens is the best airport in America.
I mean, that thing.
Yeah, amazing. Yeah. All right, Reagan's the best airport in America. I mean, I think. Yeah, I mean.
All right. So we all agree that the loser this season will have to do a naked calendar
shoot. No one agreed to that.
I agree. I agree. Where are we at right now?
Wow. They all agree. I figured out. I figured out.
Carl, we love you promote that law firm of yours, my friend.
Sure. My brother, the best firm in California is Douglas Hicks law.
That's Douglas Hicks law.
Excellent.
Share bear anything to promote on the way out here.
No, I mean, just hoping to see you and Billi, pickle jams, you know, uh, the Miami Marines
stadium, uh, what, January 13th, 14th, we'll talk more about as we get closer.
Okay, fuck anything you want to promote? Just my three and two record last week. I don't want to promote anything except ice shakers.
This court is not here. I'll give them a shout out ice shaker dot com.
Excellent. Uh, juju anything? Uh, yeah, just after games on Sundays, me and my
doubt telling me we go live on Sunday night live, man, we will be coming on the football games that
just happened. Also, I think we should still do a calendar regardless to be released at the Super Bowl.
All our brothers are beautiful on this camera zone.
Everybody get a month.
One professional headshot.
Super Bowl, we're gonna roll out the God Bless Football calendar, naming other partners doing that.
Also, check out your music, book on Camille.
Like, let's get them to choose your money, something else.
Can we call in? not a call in.
Can we call in your show or no?
Oh, yeah, that's that's going to be I think today the same
day this airs we're going to do another call.
So maybe next week next time, but it's definitely appreciate
I'll end up the panel.
I'll give you a call.
Me.
Okay.
All right, gentlemen, we appreciate it.
Happy holidays to all of you.
Merry Christmas. Happy holidays to all of you Chris
Yeah, I'm a down Mikey. Yeah, my down Mikey. Yeah, man for you get out of here. So little brother. Yes, we will pick this sir
We will pick this up right after the New Year fellows, okay?
All right
God bless football
you