The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF: Fantasy Football Preview

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

Mike Wright of The Fantasy Footballers returns to get you ready for your fantasy draft! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:02:44 the Thank you. I mean a little more enthusiasm perhaps. You know, I was wondering also if it was just me or not. Yeah Okay, so it wasn't just me good. It's early. I'm doing things. I'm looking at a line, you know, we're trying to figure out Friday afternoon. What are you talking about? It's week zero Billy college football is here guy. It's week zero, Billy. College football is here, man. It's no longer called week zero. It's week one, as Greg Cody explained to us on the Dan Leventhal Show at Wood's New Gods. It is a week one that lasts two weekends. It's week one, part one, because we have like six or seven teams, I think eight teams that
Starting point is 00:03:20 play twice in week one. The rare doubleheader for some of these teams, I find out it kicks off by the way. Florida state, Georgia tech, 12 Eastern in Dublin, because of course, I think Dublin, of course you think Florida state and Georgia tech. You think of Atlanta, Georgia. Yep. So their problems was with the number zero, not with the fact that the word week, meaning two weeks, like that's, that's what they feel like they had to with the number zero, not with the fact that the word week, meaning two weeks, like that's what they feel like
Starting point is 00:03:46 they had to change, the word zero. Yeah, I don't know. Listen, you have college football this weekend, the games mean something, it's Florida State and Georgia Tech, you have a Hawaii midnight game. I don't think Delaware State caught their plane. Did Delaware State make it to Hawaii? I was reading stories last night.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I'm concerned about this because my strategy every Saturday is lose as much money as possible and then bet it all on a white at midnight. It makes you feel alive. I mean, it does. Not necessarily the most responsible betting advice. Maybe don't do that. I'm not advising that you do it.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I'm just, I didn't say, hey, this is what you should do. I didn't, I didn't say that. Football season is a marathon, Stu. God, it's not a sprint. That pays it out. On top of, by the way, week one in college football, or week one, part one, whatever you wanna call it, also it is fantasy season.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And we have Mike Wright, our friend from Fantasy Footballers back this week, and he's going to be helping you, the listener, set up your fantasy team, and us too. And also, we love Nitro, you love Nitro. Nitro is not back, because we thought that you guys would actually want some fantasy advice, not explain to Nitro why it is that you need a running back
Starting point is 00:04:51 on your fantasy football team. We love Nitro, God bless them. But you know, we thought this would be more beneficial to you, the fantasy consumers, than just picking Nitro's team. Yeah, so Mike Wright. More broad strokes here. Yeah, Mike Wright, fantasy footballers is gonna join us. We do love him, we do love Nitro's team. Yeah, so Mike Wright. More broad strokes here. Yeah, Mike Wright, Fantasy Footballers,
Starting point is 00:05:06 is going to join us. We do love him. We do love Nitro. We realized probably midway through the second go around with Nitro and Mike Wright that this was a tune out for the audience. Yeah, I mean, no, no, unfair. I don't know if I would classify it as such
Starting point is 00:05:22 because there are discussions too, should we do it again at some point? But headed into the season, we thought, you know what? Let's have the focus be on Mike Wright and not Nitro. I know, but Billy, you will agree, it's not our best idea. The fact that we were having Mike Wright help Nitro and only Nitro who pick his fantasy team probably doesn't serve our audience very well.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Well, here's the problem. When discussing fantasy, I've learned the best way to do it. And the most fun way to do it is calls or, you know, you have like user viewer submissions, whatever, right? What really happened with Nitro is Mike EA was getting mad and he's like, this is a waste of my time. I'm not getting anything from Mike. Right. I have access to Mike, right. And all we're doing is learning about nitro. The guys asking all these stupid, why shouldn't I draft two kickers? Was one of the ones that. Why do I need, should I have two kickers?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Was a question. So I'm concerned I have this tight end. Did I take a kicker in the third round? Why not take him in the seventh round early? Right. For the record, for the record, I love Nitro. I just didn't love that segment. That's it.
Starting point is 00:06:23 No, it was also, you know, when he, when night, when, you know, Mike would ask him like, well, who's on your team? He's like, my quarterback is Jay Allen. It's like, okay. Yeah. It's the same. It's the same.
Starting point is 00:06:34 The guy from, the guy from was this, was everybody on his team. All their first names was their first initial. And it's always like the guy from San Diego. It's like, well, that's not a team anymore. There is no San Diego. Anyways. We made it to the conference finals, I think,
Starting point is 00:06:49 in his fantasy league. That's how good Mike Wright is. That's how good Mike Wright is. That's how good Mike Wright is. Well done, yes. Not just that, but like, that honestly is the secret to fantasy, is that I've been at so many leagues where the person who knows the least,
Starting point is 00:07:05 not that I'm saying that I know a lot, but the person that knows the least often succeeds because they have absolutely no emotional attachment whatsoever and they don't overthink absolutely anything. They just figure out the scoring system and like, yeah, this person, I'm just gonna plug them in. And it's like, oh, why would you get rid of this person? It's like, because they're not doing well.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And it's like, but they were the MVP of the season two years ago, like it's just a rough start. And they're like, nah, it's like, but they were the MVP of the season two years ago. Like, it's just a rough start. And they're like, nah, it doesn't matter. They end up being absolutely right more times than not. Always. Every time, because you're so right. There's so many players I hold grudges against for bad seasons, like two seasons ago.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And then they end up having a great season, but I'm still mad about 2009 or whatever. Before we get to Mike Wright coming up here in just a minute, one guy that I am high on at fantasy and he is worth a late round flyer. He was named the starter this week. I named him the starter this week before they named him the starter. That is Bo Nix in Denver. I am intrigued, Mikey A, by Bo Nix in Denver.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Can I ask you guys a question? Is Bo Nix good? Bo Nix good? I don't know. Bo Nix good? I don't know. I don't know. It's good. I don't know. I have a follow up. Can I ask you guys a question? Well, is Sean Payton? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I don't know. 25 at 25 and 21 without your breeze. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I listen, I know it's a football show. We're supposed to be experts. We're supposed to have answers. I don't know. I don't know a football show. We're supposed to be experts. We're supposed to have answers. I don't know I don't know
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Starting point is 00:09:52 Mike Wright, the fantasy footballers podcast is exceptional. I hate when fantasy football season comes around those podcasts, those football podcasts, Billy always jump ahead of hours. You know what I'm saying? Because everyone's into fantasy. And so Mike Wright has the biggest and best fantasy football podcast, fantasy podcast anywhere. He was kind enough to join us last year and help Nitro out with his first fantasy football draft. And he's back again this year to help you out the listeners. Oh, boys. Yeah. I mean, look, you, you can, I get it. I get it. No one wants to be second
Starting point is 00:10:22 place to a bunch of schlubs like us. I get that but we can all be in agreement that football is back. It is the best time of year we and like We let's get this preseason out the way and let's play some real football and win some real fantasy games I Feel like Stu gots you should apologize to Mike because you made it seem like this is just like a gimmick thing like oh this Time of year his little podcast just jumps ahead because everyone wants fantasy football advice when like the reality is your podcast is at the top of the charts year-round which is kind of crazy because football season is you
Starting point is 00:10:57 know however many months five six months long and then the rest of the time you're still up there so much so Stu gots and I have an admission to make and I don't think that I should be admitting this. And Mike, I hope that you don't hold this against us in any way, shape, or form. But Mike last year joined our show on a number of occasions, as you mentioned, to help with Nitro, and we have competed against Mike and his podcast
Starting point is 00:11:22 in the Sports Podcast Awards the past two or three years, and we were in the sports podcast awards the past two or three years. And we were in the same category. Mike's in a couple different categories, but in the football category, we were both there. And we won back to back years. And then last year we did not. And I did a dirty little trick,
Starting point is 00:11:40 if I'm gonna be honest with you. And you're supposed to submit little clips that show the different range of your podcast. And one of the clips that I put in there was a clip with you, Mike, and Nitro. And I said, look at how great we've covered fantasy, where I was using you to compete against yourself for an award, and sure enough,
Starting point is 00:12:00 your podcast actually did better than our podcast, so the trick didn't work. Oh, no, that is that's that is fantastic. I Hey, don't hate the player hate the game. I gotta respect the Sneakiness I like it But I still need to apologize Billy. I need to yeah. Well, you know, all right. Sorry Mike How many dress have you done already how many drafts Real drafts. I've only done a handful. They're sneaking up starting next week is when I'll really be drafting way too much.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Alright, so how many drafts do you have in your future here? Oh gosh, I don't know. They just pop up like weeds. I mean, before it's all said and done, I'll have done probably 10 plus. And then if there's people, I mean, there's real degenerates out there. What shout out to all of you who are playing. They're playing basketball. They're doing drafts as soon as the Super Bowl is done. Like, to be like, oh, I'm going to take care of next year
Starting point is 00:12:57 right now. It's a wild world, man. Well, I was going to ask. I'm sorry, Billy. I was going to ask you, Mike. Do you ever wake up, like, you just wake up one morning and you say, you know what? Not today. Just not today. That happens a lot for the waiver wire where you're like, oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I need I need to go put waivers in over here. How soon Mike is too soon for a fantasy draft because I'm in two leagues, which is not that much, honestly, and I'm the commissioner of one. So I'm kind of responsible for setting the date on this fantasy draft, and I don't like doing it too early. I don't like doing it after, you know, just one preseason game, because you never know what can happen,
Starting point is 00:13:36 you know, at training camp. You never know what can happen in these games. Obviously, the big starters are not gonna be playing in week three of the preseason, so there's not really a risk there, but I always kind of like to wait until the last minute. So sometimes it's also just to get, like, who do I get in my last round of the draft?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Like, who's someone that's probably going to sneak onto a roster that may steal some points here or there? Do you want me to answer the how late is too draft? How late is to draft or the player question? He did. He has two questions there. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:04 How late is too late to draft? Or I guess what is the right time to set up a draft? Honestly, it's really about the comfort for the comfort and knowledge of the fantasy football players and how much risk they want to take on. Because the injury thing is the biggest, right? Where your second round pick, whatever, your first round pick, they go out and then they're hurt
Starting point is 00:14:25 before the season even starts and your team is toast because you've already burned that pick. So we're, our main league, we call it the League of Record, we are, for the first time ever, we are drafting kickoff Thursday. Like we're drafting, we're scrambling to put our teams in and then we're all hanging out watching the opening night.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But there is an advantage, or I should say a strategy, of if you really know football and everyone in your group knows football, an earlier draft can be fun, because over August, that's when these later players start to reveal themselves to the general public, because the casual players are trying to catch up. So a player, if you want my late round player right now, it's Rico Dowdell running back of the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys despite all this CD Lamb nonsense and Jerry Jones just, someone needs to get,
Starting point is 00:15:24 we got to get Jerry Jones out of there of running things for the Cowboys. It's time for the new regime to take over Jerry. You had a good run but they're gonna be a good offense. That's what I think you can project confidently about them is they're gonna be a good team, they're gonna be a top 15 offense at worst and I did a huge study of looking at running backs who aren't drafted to be great but then end up sneaking into the top 24 and there's about five or so of these players every year and the thing that all of them have in common is they're on great offenses so I I understand that Ezekiel Elliott is the name and it's Mr Cow Cowboy is back with the team but he hasn't been the Zeke that we we knew and loved for it's been a while since we've really seen that player and even all the Cowboys beat reporters
Starting point is 00:16:15 where the moment pads came on Rico Daddle has been the best running back on this team and he is being drafted after Zeke and just extremely late I think there is a a good chance that Rico Dadel emerges as the leader of the timeshare and the most valuable fantasy football running back from that team. All right, Mike, so people who have a bad commissioner out there and they have to draft, you know, this week or next week, they're not doing it opening night of the NFL season. How do you handle how do you go, if you're drafting in the next 7
Starting point is 00:16:45 to 10 days, let's say, how do you handle guys like Jamar Chase, C.D. Lamb, and IU? What do you do there? So the big three wide receivers I'm not as concerned about, like they know the system. Nothing has really changed for those players. And it's not like the running back position. I never played run. I don't know if you guys know this,
Starting point is 00:17:07 I never played running back in the NFL, but I can make some assumptions about playing that your body has to get ready. You're gonna be in a car crash every 45 seconds when you're playing running back in the NFL. And Josh Jacobs last year during his holdout, I was mentioning on the show like guys I'm a little concerned here that he's not out there getting the reps
Starting point is 00:17:29 getting his body really ready to play now maybe I just got to the correct result with the wrong process but it still led me to be very concerned about Josh Jacobs for wide receivers though these guys are the elite of the elite I'm not concerned. They're going to play. Like they're not going to hold out through the season. At least I understand there's whispers that Jamar Chase is like, there are people saying he won't step a foot on a football field without the extension. Once game checks are up in the air and you miss a game, you miss a game game check that's a whole different level of cash like that's that's people's entire year's
Starting point is 00:18:09 salary that they're gonna skip out in a game I don't think they're gonna do it you mentioned before that you created this list of running backs based on good offenses how much stock do you put into a guy being on a good offense versus say a Deontay Johnson who's going to be on probably a bad offense. Sure. For running backs, it's extremely important. You have to have, you know, like there's some key tenets that we need to have for our fantasy running backs. Number one is volume. The phrase volume is king for fantasy running backs. That has been true for a very long time. That's
Starting point is 00:18:43 the reason why in the first round you're seeing just essentially three guys. You see Christian McCaffrey, Breece Hall, Bijon Robinson because those are the only three running backs we can, well number one they're really really good at football, but two you can confidently project these are three down running backs who are only going to be taken off of the field When they're tired, you know Project it because Arthur Smith Has been kicked out of Atlanta for failing to do that in my opinion
Starting point is 00:19:18 So that's that's why they're up there at the top So if you're not gonna find a guy who has volume which is the majority of the running back position now It's it's all platoons. Okay, now I'm going to factor in efficiency. I'm going to factor in how good is the offense, because I need touchdowns. I need touchdowns on any guys who are actually catching the ball, because that's just how fantasy scoring works in half point or full point PPR. Yeah, I get, there's some holdouts out there that play, They call it standard where they don't get a point for catching the ball. But those are like those are dinosaurs. Those those guys are going. They're dying off. It's
Starting point is 00:19:53 all half point full point PPR. So it really is finding high scoring offenses and efficient running backs because it's not the 90s anymore where 20 plus running backs are going to get all of the work. They're they're rotating way too much 12 team draft where does Mike right? Like what's the preferred position for Mike, right? So I'm good. I would say to about maybe the 106 the 107 Because that that way to me, you know, I tear I Put these players into like buckets and those three running backs I mentioned those guys are in a bucket and then the big-time wide receivers of of Tyreek CD
Starting point is 00:20:35 Jamar Those are I feel really really confident in them. It sucks that I don't get to say Justin Jefferson's in that bucket them. It sucks that I don't get to say Justin Jefferson's in that bucket, but with Sam Darnold being the guy for the Minnesota Vikings and you don't have the the unknown hope of JJ McCarthy coming to take over halfway through the year anymore because of the the meniscus injury, the Darnold numbers are scary man. They're really, they are really, really scary. Not scary enough to drop Justin Jefferson, who in my opinion is the best wide receiver in football. Can't drop him out of the first,
Starting point is 00:21:08 but it's enough of a tiebreaker that I put those other three guys above him. So if I'm at the 106, I guarantee I get one of those six players. And then second round, I get the best player back. You put a lot of stock in like offensive coordinator changes in terms of like fantasy and what that might do for players like a Cliff Kingsbury or Kellen Moore like do you does that impact players greatly or not that much to you?
Starting point is 00:21:32 It is definitely part of the process Kellen Moore would be the name I would go to of Wow He's kind of floating around the NFL can't seem to hold down a job Sorry Kellenellen, that does not affect what I'm doing over here. I'm playing a different game than you are. And the last couple years, Kellen Moore has given us greatness. Like, you know, CD Lamb, the real breakout. Last year, before Keenan Allen got hurt, he was he was absolutely elite and now we're looking at
Starting point is 00:22:05 him over in Philadelphia. The big thing is bringing motion to the offense. You know we've kind of started to talk about that a bit more. It's a it's a deeper concept for fantasy football but casual fans should get used to it. Looking at the teams and the offenses in particular who use motion the most, just rattle off any top tier offense that you can think of. And they are, they're there. They're using motion all the time and Kelly Moore was a part of that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So he's gonna bring that to Philadelphia with tons of reports of it already, of moving guys like Devontae Smith, moving them into the slot, moving them all over the field, creating actual mismatches. It's not the, we're really high T, we're just, it's man versus man, we're going to beat you. No, use some strategy, man. There's a reason that the Miami Dolphins get Tyreek moving because he's already at full speed once the play starts. It's a huge advantage, so use that. So for the Philadelphia Eagles, we're
Starting point is 00:23:05 very excited what Kelly Moore should be bringing to this offense for a team that was, if memory serves, they were near the bottom of the league in terms of motion. And you saw what happened to their offense. Like the second half of the year, it sure felt like people had figured out how to stop the Philadelphia Eagles.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Hopefully, they can't stop them. I am hesitant to bring Mike Fuentes into this conversation and allow Mikey to ask another question because what I want for this segment is for Mike Wright to help the audience, not to help the individual people associated with this show, with their draft and their team. And with that said, I bring in Mike Fuentes
Starting point is 00:23:44 to ask a question I'm sure has nothing to do in terms of positive information for the audience and is only concerned about his own team. Mike Fuentes, go ahead. Well, actually me and Danny B are taking a look at Mike's desk and he has Powerline there next to him on his right, Tua Burrow, his Air Jordan coffee mug. It looks like Newman right here in front of the camera.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And then I'm really in love with the huge Indiana Jones Funko Pop there underneath the guitar. That's probably my favorite thing. My man. Yeah, I'm like, none of that matters right now. I'm doing a 16 team league this year. Jesus. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:24:18 That's a lot. That's a lot. Listen, you got off to a good start. You talked about his desk and all the things around it. What's the matter with you? He sucked me into it. Anyone who knows the the icon that power line? Actually is they're okay in my book I feel like tight end is kind of one of the most shallow positions
Starting point is 00:24:41 It's basically you have Laporta, and then you have Kelsey, and then just a grab bag of guys. So if I want to target somebody in later rounds, do you have a suggestion outside of a McBride or somebody who might be a sleeper or even a Kyle Pitts who's kind of in a now or never type year? Who would you suggest would be a good sleeper for a tight end in this coming season?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Sure. I would start off saying that this year at tight end the at least guys at the top it's way heavier than it's been in a long time. It has been Travis, Kelsey, Mark, Andrews log out. It has been that for years and years and now you got Kelsey, Laporta, McBride, Andrews and I'll even put Dalton Cade in there. Those are five players that none of them would shock me if they finished as the tight end one at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But I would say the 16 teamer is a little bit different. So this is a 12 teamer sleeper. We'll start there. What is Jake Ferguson of the Dallas Cowboys? My second cowboy I'm gonna mention here. But he led tight ends in red zone targets. It just didn't come through as much as it should. Historically speaking, Dak Prescott has always favored the tight end position going way, way back. But Ferguson was essentially
Starting point is 00:25:58 a rookie last year. It's his second year, but it was his first year really being the starter. So he can even improve from what he was which is was really a breakout For fantasy football, and if you're looking let's see a deep deep sleeper Alright, I'll give you I'll give you two one of them. I hate But I have to bring it up anyways It's it depends on where you play I should say depending on your platform But taste some hill of the New Orleans Saints, I hate it because it's so gadgety and it drives me crazy,
Starting point is 00:26:30 but I'm not sure I love anything in this world the way that the New Orleans Saints seem to love Taysom Hill. Like, this guy gets to line up all over the field, he gets to take snaps away from the starting quarterback sometimes, and there's platforms out there like sleeper where he is still eligible To go into the tight end position and then other than that Dude, you you got to start strong
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'll say that it's if you can start strong and buy a few weeks at the tight end position and then figure it out On the waiver wire one of my favorite guys to start that right now at least just start Hunter Henry of the New England Patriots. He got off to a really really hot start last year and his opening schedule is opening three to four games very favorable at least based off of what defenses did last year. Defenses will change of course but Hunter Henry is a guy who I think that if you have completely punted the position even in a 16 team or I don't know if anybody's really gonna be on Hunter Henry and you can pick them up and play in the first couple weeks and then just make that
Starting point is 00:27:35 your priority for the waiver those first couple weeks grab a tight end. Mike for me I haven't done my drafts yet but I've done a lot of mocks. And one name that keeps jumping out at me where I can't believe he's still there. I mean, go back a year, Cooper Cup was going top eight picks probably. And now I'm seeing him in the fourth round, fifth round, but like he was hurt and he came back
Starting point is 00:28:00 and he still got his volume. What do you make of like the Pukinokua Cooper Cup share with the Rams? I think that people are writing Cooper Cup off just too quick. Look, Pukinokua is, it's extremely exciting what he did of breaking the rookie reception record and all that. Like the fact that he did that from being a fifth round draft pick, I think that's part of like such of the intrigue you know when when Jamar Chase is his rookie year is awesome for fantasy football no one's surprised but because
Starting point is 00:28:34 of the whole story of Pukinokua I think that really does it gets in your bones man fantasy football is emotional we try to pretend that it's just it's statistics and I'm a robot and I'm gonna... No man, the guys who are on my team, those are the best players in the NFL because they're on my fantasy football team and when they have bad games like it's personally affecting me. So the fact that Cooper Cupp who when he came back like you said from the injury he did have a couple good games I think both him and Puka can coexist. think Puka's being drafted too high I think
Starting point is 00:29:08 Cooper Cupps being drafted too low having said all that everything rides on Matthew Stafford who I mean like I think we're okay he had a little bit of hamstring tightness but his his injury concerns like if if Stafford goes down, that whole everything, Kyron, Puka, Cooper Cup, it's all ruined. And he has been a little bit more fragile dealing, like just these chronic back problems. So that's the risk involved with the Rams,
Starting point is 00:29:38 but Cupp's ADP is sensational, and hopefully we're not moving it. Mike, has there been a guy over all the years you've been playing fantasy football that you drafted and he absolutely wrecked your season, wrecked your league, wrecked your team and you swore never to draft him again? Yeah, there are definitely those players. Recently it's been T Higgins.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Okay. He just keeps breaking my heart over and over. But I still pound the table and I say he's a really good player. He's not Jamar Chase level. He doesn't have to be. He's a really, really good wide receiver. And my main league, it's a keeper league.
Starting point is 00:30:20 So you get three players and you hold over. And so these last two years I've had tea and it's just been emotionally draining for me and yet I'll be back over here saying he's got Joe burrow. Everything makes sense for T Higgins then the other one was It wasn't a draft but it was Deandre Swift the year back when he was on not the Eagles year But the Lions year where I traded essentially all my big ammo to trade in my main league
Starting point is 00:30:52 to go for a championship. All of it went into DeAndre Swift. It didn't work. It didn't work. It didn't work. And then I'm stuck holding the bag because there's nothing I can do. I can't make good trades. My ammo's gone.
Starting point is 00:31:07 No one wants Swift. So we'll see how he does for the Bears. But him and T are the most recent fantasy burns all over my body. You seem to be very high on Anthony Richardson from what I've seen. I think I saw that in your rankings in a four point touchdown league,
Starting point is 00:31:24 you have him higher than Patrick Mahomes on your rankings. I can go and verify that but I will say regardless of that yes extremely bullish on Anthony Richardson and it's he is a he is the difficult case where you can get mad that fantasy football is not real football. Like these guys that run, these quarterbacks that run, it is a totally unfair advantage. That's like the reason why Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are the elite of elite for fantasy quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:31:59 is because they run so much. And that's just, that's simple math. 10 yards on the ground, one point. Twenty-five passing yards, one point. I'd rather a guy who runs for 50 plus yards every single game. And it's just it's projecting what Anthony Richardson could do. Obviously, it's it's really high risk. We've seen him play two games, two full games. We've seen him been in more, but he keeps getting knocked out with injuries. So it's a really high risk situation for him but I think that he's going to run so much
Starting point is 00:32:32 and as long as he can give us 3,200 or so passing yards, that with the amount that I think he's going to run, especially around the goal line, he's going to be one of these guys that maybe you don't necessarily want to watch it because he's completing 58% of his passes. But when he's running that much and getting all those rushing touchdowns, you're not going to care. But does Jalen hurt someone we should be concerned about with Jason Kelsey retiring? So I think it's a combination of things, right? Because you have Jason Kelsey retiring? So I think it's it's a combination of things, right?
Starting point is 00:33:07 Because you have Jason Kelsey. We get to find out this year the tush push. Who was really responsible for it? Because the the broadcasts like to remind you each and every single time that he does it. You know, that guy squats 650 pounds. Yes, I know, Troy. You you already told me that this game that he is very strong. I get it. He has strong legs. But is it Jason Kelsey because other teams
Starting point is 00:33:32 have tried to do it and they can't seem to have the success rate that the Philadelphia Eagles have. You also have Saquon Barkley who, I just mentioned DeAndre Swift. Swift actually had a ton of carries inside the five. He just was a professional at getting tackled and stopped at the one yard line which gave all those rushing touchdowns to Jalen Hurts. He was Saquon Barkley. I mean, you want to talk about guys that squat,
Starting point is 00:34:01 Saquon Barkley could do that too. So I think that that will be the difference of, I think the rushing touchdowns for Jaylen Hurts go down, but all that stuff I talked about with Kellan Moore, you're hoping it balances out with some more passing touchdowns, which it really should happen. His touchdown mark was too low last year. Jayden Daniels seems to be one of those guys
Starting point is 00:34:23 that you might want to get. What do you do with him? Where is he going in mock draft, Jaden Daniels seems to be one of those guys that you might want to get. What do you do with him? Where is he going in mock draft, Jaden Daniels? So he is one of our favorite targets. My favorite personal quarterback targets, it starts with Kyler Murray, because you can get him usually in the sixth or seventh round. And he is back.
Starting point is 00:34:42 The fact that the moment he came back last year for the Arizona Cardinals they went from one of the worst offenses in the league to immediately a top ten offense is just because Kyler was back now you had Marvin Harrison jr. Kyler's my favorite target but Jayden is right up there he might even be my second favorite guy to draft because of the upside. Everything I just said about a quarterback running, it applies 100% to Jayden Daniels. Plus Jayden Daniels, like,
Starting point is 00:35:12 I'm more confident as Daniels, Daniels being a good passer in the NFL than I am for Anthony Richardson. The numbers at LSU are outrageous. Meanwhile, the college tape on Richardson, it's tough. You would see him throw a pass that only he could throw and then the very next pass you're like has this guy ever thrown a football? That's how wild the accuracy jumps were for Richardson but Jaden Daniels, just absolutely John Madden football type numbers from LSU last year. Cliff, I know him well because I'm an Arizona boy,
Starting point is 00:35:46 so I've watched his offenses. They're not the most creative things in the entire world, but I think that you'll get enough that drafting him is a really good idea. We've been telling people, even if you invest, whenever you invest in a quarterback, you might want to draft Jayden Daniels at the end, just in case. He is the prototypical late round quarterback
Starting point is 00:36:13 that can break fantasy football. It's a long time ago, but Lamar, Lamar's MVP season, he was being drafted right around where Jayden Daniels drafted. I had him, yeah. Yeah, and it was like I Screw you could have screwed up eight picks, but because you got Lamar, right? He turned into a championship team Mike. When should you start thinking about a quarterback not in the first round not in the second round, right?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah, no, don't do it that early but the numbers are actually it plays out more of take the early guy, you know, Josh Allen, Jalen Hertz, you can take them, and in my homes, I'll go Allen Hertz, my home's Lamar. If you're going to go early, it's okay because the hit rate, historically talking about quarterbacks drafted in that range, the hit rate for them to at least be a top five quarterback is very strong. Obviously, if you draft a quarterback, the first one you want it to be the first overall quarterback, but just saying the percentage chance that they will not destroy you is pretty good. It's actually those middle quarterbacks. Those are the guys that historically are not coming through with their floor and it's not
Starting point is 00:37:27 coming through with their ceiling. So those middle round quarterbacks, that's actually where I avoid it. I either jump in early or I wait later and I'm leaving the draft with like Jared Goff and Jayden Daniels. The Fantasy Footballers 10th anniversary Megalith show is going to be held this Saturday in Los Angeles live at the Palace Theater. For tickets go to BallersLive.com. Mike, congratulations first on 10 years when you started this.
Starting point is 00:37:52 You seem surprised it was this Saturday by the way. No, no, it's that I just, I'm wondering if Mike is surprised that 10 years on this is where he is right now. Yeah, not on this shitty it's not what I meant. So this show started where the three of us all works together at a tech company making video games where all we wanted to do was spend our time talking about fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:38:17 That company actually goes under, we're all trying to find jobs, the other guys are working, like getting their real estate license, I'm trying to start a beard oil company and trying to like what are we gonna do boys and then it's and we're like hey it's three guys upstairs in some in a kids converted bedroom just sweating our balls off because it's Arizona and you have to turn the AC off to record because that's how loud it was in that house. The fact that it's there to 10 years later
Starting point is 00:38:46 and we have like a big office, we have multiple employees, we have an incredible team, yes, it is extremely surprising. What is your personal favorite fantasy, I guess, you know, type league? Like is it, you know, is it individual teams? Like what is your preference, Mike? My preference first off is the ones that I win. I like those ones the best.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah, of course. But I like keeper leagues. I hate keeper leagues, man. Oh, get on board, man! I can't stand it. Dynasty is really fun because you get to, like, I mean, I had, so I drafted Evan Ingram in our dynasty league, in the rookie draft, I just traded him this year.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So his entire career was on my team. So it's like, Evan Ingram's one of my guys. I'll love that guy forever. Hard to let go, huh? Yeah, oh, very, very, very difficult. But so it's, but those can be tough. Like if your team falls apart and you're trying to rebuild Let go, huh? Yeah, oh, very, very, very difficult. But those can be tough. If your team falls apart and you're
Starting point is 00:39:48 trying to rebuild and actually trying to win, it can take a while. Where keepers gives you just a little taste of that, where maybe you find lightning in a bottle. Our main keeper league, I got Antonio Brown right before he turned into Antonio Brown. And I kept him through that whole entire run and people hated it because they knew in that league no one else is ever gonna
Starting point is 00:40:10 have Antonio Brown he's mine he's on my team. So getting a taste of that the the attachment to some of the players I like that more than the full start over and I like it a little bit more than I just have everybody forever. Alright so give me a guy who's worth a flyer at each of these positions. Late in the draft, OK, you're reaching, you're just trying to find the guy that has some upside or is an injury away from becoming the guy. Let's start with running back, the running back position.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Give me a flyer at running back. OK, so I threw out Rico Dowdle for you. The other one I'll throw out is, let's go, man, it's tough, but I'll go JK Dobbins, Los Angeles Chargers, one because when he's healthy, his talent is unbelievable to me. I mean, we saw him a couple years ago return from an ACL, gets hurt, misses like six games and comes back and he's still hurt and he averages over seven yards of carry. We called him JK 1L because of JK 1 leg. If you watched him running out there,
Starting point is 00:41:13 he's literally throwing half of his body forward, just willing it to go down the field. But he's one of those players, like I talked about Rico Dowdle of, the Chargers are gonna be a good offense. It's gonna be high T it's gonna be the Greg Roman hardball way over there it's gonna be run run run run run but it's gonna be effective it always has been effective for Greg Roman offenses so the fact that JK Dobbins is really late and could take over he could be a steal really late
Starting point is 00:41:41 all right give me a flyer at wide receiver. Okay, at wide receiver, let me think here. The name, it jumps to, I'll give you two. I'll give you two guys. Okay. One is Don Tavian Wicks of the Green Bay Packers. He's like the super nerd metrics that we talk about in fantasy football, like yards per route run, targets per route run, these types of things
Starting point is 00:42:07 that most casual NFL fans have never heard of. He scores really, really well in them and these are metrics that we use to find guys that can truly break out. The question for him is, will he be on the field? Where, I mean, they have an embarrassment of riches at the wide receiver position. It just comes down to if Duntavian gets an opportunity,
Starting point is 00:42:28 I think that he will come through. And the other one would, I'm gonna throw out Khalil Shakir of the Buffalo Bills, had an awesome yards per reception this past year. The whole wide receiver crew for the Buffalo Bills is in flux. What you know is the offense will be good. Josh Allen will probably throw for 400 passing yards, 30 plus passing touchdowns. It's just who's gonna benefit from it. Curtis Samuel already dealing with turf toe. Keon Coleman is a rookie and I think he'll be pretty inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So it's Shakir is a deep flyer. Donteva on Wichstegotz was one of those guys last year that we would pick like over, under, on, on like receiving yards because he'd get like one or two targets a game and he'd break out like a 15 yard reception if he caught the one target that he would get per game, which is why he was crazy. By the way, A staple of Billy's Big Board, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Exactly right. In addition to the 10th anniversary, if you want, you can get the Ultimate Draft Kit at ultimatedraftkit.com. A portion of that will go to St. Jude's, which you guys have done a great job raising money over the years. Stugatz, you're going to like this. As part of the Ultimate Draft Kit, you can get a risk and upside meter to be checking in on players. Oh, wow. What does that look like? Just explain that to me, Mike. That's exciting. Yeah, so with all the players, you can see out there their projections because that's how we do it.
Starting point is 00:43:50 We start at the quarterback and then start divvying things out to the rest of the team. But those are like median projections. I can't project that Devon H. Han is gonna run for eight yards a carry like it just I can't do that Because this is not being intellectually honest. That's such an outlier But what I can do then is in his upside meter. I go and I put he's at a nine So what it what it looks like when you're looking at the players? It's just an easy little There's a green bar in a red bar high red bar means high risk high green bar means high upside Wow easy I mean send me the entire kit if you don't mind Send them money
Starting point is 00:44:33 Everyone can get it I'm not gonna send you money. I'm just asking for a kit Give you the money, okay, well 100% go to the Children's Hospital or no? No, I paid for a portion. A portion, man. I got a business to run to. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I would like my 100% to go to the Children's Hospital if you don't buy it. Okay. I'll tell you what. You make a donation. I'll get you a free draft kit. Okay. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:02 That is a ability. You're gonna have to show me how to make a donation. I've never done it before. Okay. Wow. Wow. That is a ability. You're going to have to show me how to make a donation. I've never done it before. I think you're telling on yourself, man. Yeah, I don't care. I've been telling on myself for 20 years. It's like just telling on himself. Give me a flyer quickly here, like a late round guy that you might like at tight end. Ooh, I mean, Hunter Henry is about as nasty as you want to get there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:25 But I'll throw one more out for you. Let's go, like we don't know exactly what the Baltimore Ravens passing attack is going to look like, but Isaiah Likely, the other tight end for that team, he was very serviceable. He had some games last year. Yeah. When Mark Andrews went down, Isaiah Likely was an excellent pickup and just a full plug and play tight end.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And just with the progression of his career, it wouldn't be a surprising thing if their focal point of the offense is Zay Flowers, Marc Andrews, and then they've been trying to find that other wide receiver for years. The reports on Rashad Bateman have just they've always up always down getting hurt all the time it wouldn't surprise me if they switch things up and they feature Isaiah likely a little bit more you ever give your
Starting point is 00:46:17 fake team your fake players a fake pregame speech like how does that how does that work oh yeah you got you you gotta order them in your starting lineup appropriately. You gotta like you move a guy up to RB1 like, like I'm giving you the confidence boost today. Man, I'm putting you on my RB1, don't let me down. You've been promoted to RB1. Yeah, and they care.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Act like an RB1. Yeah. Are you mean like Brian Flores or you nice like McDaniel1. Yeah. Ha ha ha. Are you mean like Brian Flores, or you nice like McDaniel? Too soon. Too soon. I'm sorry. Wow. I'm more of a McDaniel motivational with positivity.
Starting point is 00:46:55 What is the thing, since Fuentes brought it up earlier, we haven't heard from him since, the thing that you were proudest of around that desk? Oh, I mean, I love the power line. And I don't know if you can see, I might be blocking it. Oh, I'm the weatherman right now. If you can see, if you can see Bill and Ted back here. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:47:16 That's who that is in the orange jacket. I didn't know. Is that- Yeah, big time Bill and Ted. Is that Donovan McNabb on your bookshelf running? I don't know, it might be. Right next to the Vans. Number six? Yeah, is that no, it's Smith then, it has to be Devonta Smith. Yeah. And I like your retro Bucks helmet too. Oh, that one's signed by Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Oh, there you go. Wow. I like it more now. Send me that too with the kit, all right? Yeah. All right, the Fantasy Footballers, you can check them out on Spotify, Apple. You can check out their website, fantasyfootballers.com. Mike Wright, we appreciate this. We're sorry, Nitro couldn't make it. He parlayed his success with you last year into his own fantasy show. So thank you though, buddy.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I know, I appreciate it. Again, I love cutting it up with you guys. You're a good group of guys to talk with. So anytime, you let me know. All right, we'll do it again soon. My biggest regret is not starting a fantasy show. That's the thing. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Don't worry. I'll clip this for our award nominations, two guys. We're good. Thank you, Mike. Happy 10th anniversary to you, man. Thank you. Happy 10th anniversary to you man. Thank you. The year was 2017 and I was a youngish man thinking I was invincible and nothing could
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Starting point is 00:49:43 and we're back yeah godless football is presented by smirnoff we do game days please drink responsibly the responsibly. The Smyrnaf Company, New York, New York. So you gots. Yeah, go ahead Billy. I have a question for you. It's a game I'd like to play. I don't know if you wanna. Is this a new game? I have a question for you.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I mean. No, no, no, no, no. This is a different game. We have that game. Okay. Yeah. You wanna play a game? We have so many games.
Starting point is 00:50:01 No, no, just go ahead. You were talking, go ahead. Oh, you don't wanna. Well, what I was gonna do is play a game. If you don't wanna play a game, we won't play it. All, just go ahead. You were talking. Go ahead. Oh, you don't want to. Well, what I was going to do is play a game. If you don't want to play a game, we won't. All right. Let's let's play a new game. I think Mike is disappointed with our performance in that last segment. But go ahead, let's play a game.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Well, this game is called Mike, right or Mike wrong. And here's how it works. Here's how it works. We had Mike right on for a long time. I feel like we did a better job by not having Nitron. We love Nitro. We'd love to have Nitron again. Would love you guys stop outing your criticism of Nitro by saying you love Nitro. Just it was a bad idea. I love Nitro. I love every time you have to put a qualifier though. It's like never good.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Like I just love Nitro, but the man was an American Gladiator. I don't want him thinking. I didn't. I don't like it. Okay. we love him so much that we didn't invite him back. Anyway, go ahead, Billy. I think that American gladiator, and I could be wrong, and maybe someone can look this up, I think that American gladiator is like a Nobel Prize. Like you were always an American gladiator. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So like always Nobel Prize award, but you're always an American gladiator. Once a gladiator, always a gladiator. Yeah. Correct. So I am saying how much I love him because I still wanna have him on into a fantasy segment with him later on,
Starting point is 00:51:09 just not this week, right? So in that situation, I think we made the right Mike Wright decision, right? But I also believe we may have boxed out Mike Ye. So I think we may have been Mike wrong in that situation. So Mike Ye, how would you grade the interview that we do with Mike, right? Mike, right or Mike wrong? It was a little C plus ish.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I mean, it was, it was okay. It was good. Mike, you got a lot of good stuff in there. I like this. Mikey A, Mikey B or Mikey C. I'm Mikey. Wow. Wow. Billy threw a bad. Mickey C. How about that? Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, Mike Wright knows, and there's so many guys I want to ask about because I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Is Devin Aitchin gonna be really good this year or is he gonna take a step back? I don't know. I don't know. Mike Wright, Mike, no, but I never got to ask. It's a good question. Never got to ask.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, sorry. I think we should do a segment, Billy, where we have Mike Wright back on and only Mikey Hay asks questions, okay? Okay. You'll win your fantasy league. I mean, listen, Mikey has been great to both you and I and this show for many, many years.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Loyal and we love him. And he just wants this one goddamn segment where we ask the right questions. That's all he buys. I lost my fantasy league and I had to make a calendar for everybody in the league featuring. Oh, yeah. Did you do that? We never got that. Oh, yeah, I definitely did it. So I really need, I do have one for me.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Where is it? Get it, get it. No, I'm definitely not gonna get it. Yeah, they haven't seen it, so I can't show you guys yet. But- When do you give it to them? At the draft, at this year's draft. Ah, what months are we doing? Are we doing like a September September to August?
Starting point is 00:53:09 Okay, interesting. I had a theme. So so I lost my fantasy league. So Mike, the Mike Wright segment is personal to me because I can't do that again. Okay. Well, to be honest with you, I'm more interested in your calendar than your fan. Sure. Everybody is where to take these pictures?
Starting point is 00:53:26 I have people flying. I Billy, I learned Photoshop for this. This is really Billy. I'm going to tell you a secret just between me and you. Yeah. So I had myself animated for one picture. Really? I paid a professional illustrator to animate me.
Starting point is 00:53:44 That seems like cheating. Billy, if you saw the picture, you wouldn't be upset. No one would have said, you know what? You know what? You cheated. They'd say, thank you for doing this. Is there a, so there's a theme? There is a theme. Can you tell us the theme at least?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Yeah, I'll tell you that. It's called A Loser Through Television and Film. So it's all famous TV and movie scenes replacing me with the star of the movie. Are they all shirtless TV and movie scenes? At least six of them are. And then others. At least.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Were others just scenes that you decided to recreate shirtless? I think I chose well, I will say that. Did you choose running and sprinting on the beach as Rocky or Apollo? It was one of the last ones to get the axe. It could only be me. I couldn't have somebody else in the scene. I didn't spend, we didn't spend any time on Tua.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I didn't ask for Billy's reaction. I didn't ask Mikey A for his reaction from afar. And the reason is Joe Rose, the big dog, said it perfectly a day ago. Why are we still talking about this? How close football? The year was 2017 and I was a youngish man thinking I was invincible and nothing could stop me.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I lost a bet and I said, you know what? I'm going to bite into this onion because that is the punishment for losing this bet. And boy did I learn I was not invincible. Lots changed over the years. One thing that hasn't, the great taste of Miller Lite. Another thing that hasn't changed is that it's less filling. So what is the best thing about the original light beer? Miller Lite has sparked this debate since 1975 and we still haven't settled it. My personal favorite, the great taste.
Starting point is 00:55:35 It goes with almost anything and now during the summer if you're outside grilling, it's the perfect accompaniment to a nice warm burger hot dog. You don't have to choose what's best. Miller Lite has great taste and is less filling. Tastes like Miller time. To get Miller Lite delivered right to your door, visit MillerLite.com slash GBF. Or you can find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly.
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