The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF- Spags in studio!

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Friend of the show Steve Spagnuolo joins the guys in studio during the Chiefs' bye week. Why can no-one dial up a blitz like Spags? Could OC Spags beat DC Patrick Mahomes? Learn more about your ad cho...ices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 God bless football. Billy Gill. God bless football, Steve Guz. Thank you. A special Wednesday edition of God Bless Football. This is big. It must mean a big guest is coming through. Is that what it means? I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:01:04 what you do know. If that are breaking news, I do know. You're right. Yeah, of course. We're coming off of Monday Night Football. The Rare could have been in first place. Now you're in third place kind of game. Yeah, but I feel like I'm in second place. Oh, because they got Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:01:16 All right. Yeah, we're back. I mean, you don't feel like that? I don't know. All right. What do you make quickly before we get to our big guest that I'm going to ruin it right now? It's Spags. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah. Yeah. Spags rolled through the studios here at Metalork Media. He was a delight. Do you now believe that I have an actual friendship with Spags or you're still questioning it? No, I'm not questioning it. It was a delight to have Spags in studio. We don't have many in studio guests on this show. No. He was a delight.
Starting point is 00:01:46 We had him on. Everyone loved him in the office. Yes. Taylor threw out his credentials at him at one point. He said, I used to play football in North Carolina not to brag to which Spags just kind of looked at him and was like, what's wrong with you? Fun little day when Spags came to the office. When you say he looked at him and said, what's the matter with you? He looked at him and saw that he was five, eight, there's no way he played football.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Well, okay, here's the thing. Right. Headed into that, we had a nice little game going on where we were asking Taylor, hey, if you were offered a quality control job in the NFL, would you quit this job for that job? And we thought the obvious answer was yes. And then he had a ton of conditions depending on the team depending on the head coach
Starting point is 00:02:28 Where he wasn't going to just take that job and then because you know, I'm a dog I went and I told spags the exact situation was like it Can you believe this guy if someone offered him a quality control job in the NFL? He wouldn't just take it. He's like you got to get your foot in the door Right no matter what you have to do where you have to travel What the job is if you want something bad enough you have to get your foot in the door. Right. No matter what you have to do, where you have to travel, what the job is, if you want something bad enough,
Starting point is 00:02:49 you have to get your foot in the door. This is very specific to quality control coaching job for the NFL. He said he would not take the job at the Carolina Panthers. He also said he wouldn't take the job in Jacksonville. In case anyone
Starting point is 00:03:00 was wondering. Taylor was saying. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but Spags is saying no. If you want it badly enough. Correct. You will take the job in Carolina. You will take the job in Jacksonville. Yeah. But Spags is saying, no, if you want it badly enough, you will take the job in Carolina. You will take the job in Jackson. Correct. Interesting. Yeah. Yep. That's classic spags. Classic spags. I mean, that's why he's the best defensive coordinator in the NFL. Quickly, before we get to Spags, are you surprised that the Steelers who are coming off a victory here, reports are that Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:03:22 is going to be benched. Russell Wilson is back trying to play his way back into the Hall of Fame, Billy. I uh I'm not surprised. I don't think Justin Fields has looked great the past couple of weeks. There's more upside with Russell
Starting point is 00:03:38 Wilson. I think there's more of uh what do we gotta lose here? You know? Yeah. We got two quarterbacks. This one's okay. Let's see what we got with the other one. I think you have to give Russell Wilson. You have to give him a try. Yeah. We had two quarterbacks. This one's okay. Let's see what we got with the other one. I think you have to give Russell Wilson. You have to give him a try. Yeah. See, because the Steelers, I think they're forward too now,
Starting point is 00:03:49 but the Steelers, there is an upside to Russell Wilson that you simply don't have with Justin Fields. Justin Fields, he's been around long enough. You know exactly what he is. Russell Wilson, you still have questions as to whether or not he can return to the Super Bowl winning championship quarterback that he once was. Well, he also won the job coming out of camp. He was named the starter
Starting point is 00:04:11 then because of an injury he didn't start. So I mean he won the job. They had made the decision previously. He's going to be our starter and Justin Fields did not do enough apparently to keep the job now that Russell's healthy again. Right. Winning four to six is not enough. Yeah. Well, not for Tomlin, he wants to win all six. I mean, has he looked great to you? Justin Fields? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:30 No, I would go Russell Wilson. Okay. Yeah, no, but I love Russell Wilson, like just following kind of the career lot, his career path here, first three years, four years, first ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah. Last few years played his way out of the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And now Mike Tomlin on one of the you know biggest brand in the NFL. One of the biggest brands in all of sports the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tomlin is giving him an opportunity to play his way back into the Hall of Fame and perhaps be a first ballot Hall
Starting point is 00:04:58 of Famer. Wow. How about that? What would he have? One more Super Bowl. We have to get to Spags but before we do now you have to be curious. Oh I picked your curiosity. You have. Yes. What would he have? One more Super Bowl. Hold on. We have to get to Spags but before we do, now you have. Oh, I picked your curiosity. You have. Yes. What would he have
Starting point is 00:05:11 to do? Huh? In Pittsburgh to now make his way not only back into the Hall of Fame as you put it but a first ballot Hall of Famer. So, if he wins one Super Bowl with the Steelers, he gets back into the Hall of Fame. If he wins two, he's a
Starting point is 00:05:23 first ballot Hall of Famer. How about that? So, he's a first. First ballot or just Hall of Fame. Two Super Bowls is twice as much as one. It's Eli Manning though. And we've had a lot of people say Eli's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah. Some people have
Starting point is 00:05:56 said he's not a Hall of Famer at all. Hmm. I'm trying to remember who said that but I have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was Fuentes. I think Sim said it too. Yeah, Sims. No, Sim said not a first ballot guy. It was Fuentes who said, yeah, it was. It was Fuentes. It was not. It was somebody though. Alright, let's get this back. He smelled very
Starting point is 00:06:15 good. Did you notice that? I did not notice that. Really? No. That's because he was sitting next to me and I kind of counter. You just got your little sniff. He smelled good. That's weird. Yes. I mean, you didn't notice it? No. He had cologne on. I think maybe I was stuffed up. Well, and of course I was in the room and I smelled bad.
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Starting point is 00:08:21 Sponsored by Diageo Americas, Inc., New York, New York. and other important details sponsored by Diageo Americas Inc. New York, New York. Billy, this is very exciting. Spags. Spags is here. Four-time Super Bowl champion. He is in town. He is strolled into town. Five and oh on a bi-week. The Kansas City Chief. Spags, I've been saying on the show, and Billy's been laughing at me,
Starting point is 00:08:56 that you should be the MVP of the NFL. No, I don't know about that. A lot of people are saying that, Spags. That's going a little too far. That's called, it's called really good players and good assistant coaches. That's what that is. That's what really good players and good assistant coaches. That's what the buzz is about in the league. I don't know how much media you consume back, but everybody's saying the defense is carrying the Chiefs this season.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah. I tell you, it's a nice compliment and I think it's good for our guys to hear that defensively, but when you got Patrick Mahomes, you're never out of a game. And let's face it, I mean, these games are all tight Yes, I mean the ones we're in tight them seem like every week every game is tight and Our guys have so much confidence in him, right? I think it helps us play a lot better So it all begins with Patrick and the offense and they keep it rolling and we just our guys like being a part of what? They do keep us in the games and keep swinging away. He's being humble Billy definitely I'm boy is what makes Patrick different like you've been around football your entire life
Starting point is 00:09:49 So you've been around quarterbacks your entire life. What makes this one different? Well, I I'm one that values football intelligence greatly and and Pat is off the charts Smart and he's also a, like he gets it, he can relate to every player on the team. He doesn't make it about him. I mean, he loves to win. He knows it's a team that wins and not just one position. I love being around him.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I mean, listen, I'll walk into the quarterback meeting room and if I'm thinking about putting something in or doing something defensively, sometimes I'll run it by Pat and say what do you think? Will this do anything or I'll go to him when we're in practice. We're in training camp. What a barometer by the way. Yeah Pat, what are you seeing that we're giving away? And he's terrific.
Starting point is 00:10:35 He's great. Wow. He could be a defensive coordinator. Oh yeah, someday he will be. What do you mean someday he will be? He'll do whatever he wants. I don't think he's going to want to be a defensive coordinator. I think he's going to be fine when he retires.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I think Spags is doing be fine when he retires. I think Spags is doing just fine as a DC. Yeah. I take all the help I can get, man. I'll use any resource possible. The defense has been fantastic. Chris Jones is such an amazing... I've never seen a...
Starting point is 00:10:59 Well, maybe Reggie White. Is that a fair comparison? Yeah. Listen, Reggie, he is that a fair comparison? Yeah, Reggie was big time. But Chris, listen, he changes things for us defensively. Like people have to do things differently when he's on the field, and then we can counteract with that, which is kind of a good thing.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And he faces a lot of double teams. We go through that every game. People slide into him and take him away. But he finds a way to make a big play at the right moment, and you need that in this league like I say these games are all tight our games are always tight and having him at the end of the game is helpful. When is the the perfect time I you you were you were very happy when we were exchanging texts last week that you had arrived at the bye week because you
Starting point is 00:11:38 know you get some time with a wife and get some time to come down here what is the perfect time for a bye week? I don't know if there's a perfect time. I mean it's always good. Coming off of any win is a good week. I tell you it was kind of unique this year that we had the bye week coming off of Monday night which is kind of good because when you play on a Monday night it's a tight squeeze to play on Sunday again so that was good and it was always good to win but you know listen ideally you say right in the middle of the season but the way I look at it is I mean we went to training camp like July 16th so this might be half way between whatever stretch we're going to have so we just got to get refreshed and get ready to roll and then it will be
Starting point is 00:12:17 a 12 week grind and hopefully longer. Me and Billy went to the season opener at Kansas City my first time there Billy's first time there. Did's first time there uh... we had a some barbecue we did we had barbara yeah specs they love football more than we do yet the fans of the kansas city chiefs love football in a way that miami will never look for ball it's uh... it's a passion the fan base is starts terrific i mean if they
Starting point is 00:12:41 they love their chiefs i mean when loser draw that lose, or draw. That's what you learn there, which is different than a lot of places. And that, the narrowhead, it's rocking on game day. How do you coach against, I guess, complacency, right? Like you're going for a three-peat, obviously that's a motivating factor. There's never been a three-peat in the NFL. But it's easy to kind of get complacent, I guess, right?
Starting point is 00:13:03 When you've been successful for so long, right? And then we see last year, last year, you guys, earlier in the season, people were saying, hey, something might be a little bit off in Kansas City, right, and then you go on a run in the playoffs. That was me, by the way. That was the one who said it. You're not yet up winning the Super Bowl, right?
Starting point is 00:13:18 So how do you coach against just, I guess, guys getting bored with the success, if that's even a thing? Yeah, listen listen in anything And this is quite a challenge. We've we've we don't even talk about you know 3p. We're game to game I mean, that's just how you have to do it, but no one has ever uttered those words Super Bowl you guys are screaming three p.m But the it all begins at the top. Listen, Andy is a rock. Win-lose-or-draw, up-down, doing well, not doing well, winning Super Bowls, not winning
Starting point is 00:13:50 Super Bowls. He's so steady and so consistent. And I think everybody feeds off of that, beginning with the quarterback and all the coaches, because Patrick gets it. And I think our guys have a really... We've got enough veteran leadership mixed in with a bunch of young guys here that i think that they understand it and uh... it is a one week at a time business mean what he's good as you last came virtually for us in our by we can
Starting point is 00:14:14 have to be a win uh... but i think we stay stated andy is all about process uh... he doesn't change month things stay consistent whether we're up or whether we're down and I think that resonates throughout the team I think that's the key in my opinion. Billy that week to week thing is real I was texting him after week three saying you're the MVP and he's like hey we're just 3-0. He barked back at me Spax. He got very mad at me. Trust me I've been in it long enough to know.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Spax we have a guy here named Taylor who you met just before recording. The Carolina kid, yeah. Yeah, and he has gone around the office quite often and just uttered to himself, no one draws up a blitz like Spags. Just we'll sit, no one, talking about anything else, no one draws up a blitz like Spags. I didn't teach Taylor well enough because what I say is no one dials up a blitz better than Spags. No one does. So how do you know, I guess, for the fans of yours like Taylor, how do you know the perfect time to dial up the blitz. Yeah. Better than that, better than spags. No one does. So how do you know, I guess, for for the fans of yours like Taylor, how do you know the perfect time to dial up the blitz?
Starting point is 00:15:08 I don't know. I don't know if anybody knows it. Listen. Just by feel, right? Well, the perfect blitz is when the guys that you call it into execute it the right way. Right. Listen, there are a number of times when we call them and it doesn't come out exactly like we want or they pick it up. The ones are nice when they come through and deal with time that's good. I tell you what, I give our guys a lot of credit. We spend a lot of time with these. Nowadays, you know, football has become a lot of walk-throughs. Yeah. I mean, you don't do real football during the week anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:37 You hate that, don't you? I do. I know. But... Your old school, it's okay, Spax. That's all right. I'm not afraid to admit it. But our guys do a really good job in staying in tune to when we do do these walkthroughs and I think that
Starting point is 00:15:50 carries into the game and a lot of times when we put something together it's going to require that our guys execute it the right way and our guys to a T do that so it's I credit those guys. Did you ever think you'd be here when you were coaching the Barcelona Dragons? Like here in our studio? Yeah, right here in the studio. What a great memory to bring back. I'll tell you what, that NFL Europe was one of the more fun experience I had as a coach. So I was in Barcelona for the one year in 92 I think, years of running together and then 98 I went back to NFL Europe with the Frankfurt Galaxy and that was a great experience. I thought the players in that league, they were all playing for something. They were all probably cut by the NFL team.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And so they had this apple and nugget they wanted. So you had an eager group all the time in every meeting, in every game, they were willing to work. And that was really neat to work with. When I went there in 92, I think I was coming willing to work. And that was really neat to work with. I was coming, when I went there in 92, I think I was coming out of college. And you know, college you were dealing with players that were going to school, and you had to work around academic schedules. Anyway, I went in NFL Europe,
Starting point is 00:16:54 and these guys were eager to play, and it was all football. I mean, I just loved it. That was great. Do they like the NFL in Europe? Cause like we see now we're in the midst of like the European section of the NFL season, right? Where they have all the games abroad and you coach there.
Starting point is 00:17:06 But when you watch it, you're kind of like, these are just fans of the teams that want to go to Europe. So they're going to root on their teams in Europe because they got a European vacation out of it, right? Did you sense when you were there that there was like a yearning for NFL football? We did. I mean, our players did.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I mean, our players were talking about it because they were out and about a little bit. But I do think that, I think the European fans, especially in Germany for whatever reason it was explained to me at one time that because we had USA bases in Germany for a long time and then there was some football that was developed at lower levels that it became a little bit more popular there and and that's probably true but I in the experiences that I've had in the international games
Starting point is 00:17:42 I think the fans have been terrific and I I do, and I'd have to check, but I think most of them are European fans going to the game. You guys played in Frankfurt last year. We did. I had to explain to... It's a homecoming for Specs. Yeah, it was in that same stadium.
Starting point is 00:17:56 But I had to explain to the players when we played in that game a year ago that when you hear whistling, right, that doesn't mean that they're happy. That means that that's bad. Like you boo here. So we have to educate them. I told them.
Starting point is 00:18:10 So wait, they whistle, when they're upset, they whistle? Some of them do. This is what I remember. I think that's a, it might be a soccer thing, but I was back there in 92 and 98. I remember somebody saying to me, now Steve, when the fans start whistling,
Starting point is 00:18:22 don't think they'll like what you're doing. That means they're upset. So that was my little mini education about real people. When did you know you wanted to be a football coach? When did you realize? Yeah, I know it was back in the eighth grade. I had a friend of mine that went to a basketball camp at Springfield College.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Springfield College in Western Mass was a big phys ed school. It was one of the number one phys ed schools in the country at the time. And he had come back ranting and raving about this school. Billy's laughing that there was a big phys ed school. I was just laughing, our school's grown a P.E. Well at that time. That's exactly what you brag about.
Starting point is 00:18:55 It was big, it was big then. This is back in the mid 70s. He's a youngster, Spax. Yeah, he don't do it. Billy wouldn't understand that. That was a big thing. But he came back. Jim was a big thing, phys ed was a big thing. That's right, if you were do it. Don't even understand. That was a big thing. But he came back. Jim was a big thing.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Phys Ed was a big thing. That's right. If you were gonna go be a Phys Ed teacher, that was a big thing. Yes. So anyway, he kinda lit it up in my mind. I said, yeah, I wanna do that. And then I just had this vision of going to Springfield
Starting point is 00:19:17 College, becoming a Phys Ed teacher, coming back and teaching at my high school and doing what my, because my high school coach I loved, and I wanted to do that and along the way when I failed I failed at that yeah I didn't make it back to Grafton high school too much success pop tells a story that he always dreamed of being a division three basketball coach okay greg poppins you're an NBA champion go do it then exactly right there is something I'm
Starting point is 00:19:42 guessing though there is something cathartic like the thought of Spags going back to coach at a high school level probably gets him excited, right? Like there's no pressure. You just go coach. Go coach kids. Kids are eager. It's fun. I always thought that the best way to test your teaching skills was to go coach 12 year olds because what you say is exactly what they hear hear if you're not an explaining it exactly the way you want done right come out right right
Starting point is 00:20:09 every summer when I was coaching in college I'd go work these camps up in Connecticut and I'd always work you could work with the high school kids you could work with the young ones I always work with the young ones because I thought it it challenged me to say things exactly the way I meant them like when you when you're dealing with these pro players you know it you only got to say half of it they understand what you're trying to say things exactly the way I meant them. Like when you're dealing with these pro players, you only gotta say half of it. They understand what you're trying to say. But when you're talking to young kids.
Starting point is 00:20:31 So it tests your communication skills. Yeah, it does. It really does. That's interesting. What do you think you'd be doing, would you still be a gym teacher if you weren't coaching, if you weren't the D coordinator for the Chiefs? I'm gonna tell you what, I'm looking in your studio here,
Starting point is 00:20:43 I'm looking at that hockey. You got some hockey highlights on there. I loved hockey. I was a huge Bobby O'Reilly fan growing up in- You're in hockey town now, Spax. I know, I loved the Boston Bruins growing up, big bag Bruins back in the early 70s. And I would have loved to have coached hockey.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Here's the thing about coaching hockey, this is the way I felt. Like when I'm coaching these guys, the only thing I can really do in my shoulders got now is throw ball drills, right? To be involved in the game when you're a hockey coach you can go out there and skate with them Yeah, you can pass you can shoot on the goalie like you could be a kid forever Yeah, so I always thought coaching hockey would be pretty cool. That'd be more fun because you play hockey every day. Yeah Playing you'd be like one of the players the weight so so as a fan of, you're from the Boston area,
Starting point is 00:21:28 so as a fan, I'm assuming, of all the Boston teams, is it driving you crazy to watch the Yankees going into the ALCS right now? No, actually, being in New York for the last couple of years, listen, I'm an odd Boston Red Sox fan because the Red Sox are not in. I do roof over the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I like the Yankees. Spax, be careful. I know, but that's all right. Listen, they're in it now and I love watching them play. Listen, I wasn't happy that they beat the Royals. I was really pulling for them. That's a great group over there. Matt, the manager is terrific.
Starting point is 00:21:58 We were really for the city. It was great for the city to have those games there. I would have liked for that to continue. But listen, I appreciate good baseball and playoff baseball. And the Yankees are playing really good now. So I'll continue to watch it just because I enjoy the game. I could see Spags as a hockey coach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I kind of do too. I'm sorry. I'm hanging on the boards. You're a hockey coach. Wait, so you hate the Panthers, right, Spags? You have to. Not a hater of anybody. They did just beat the Bruins the other day, didn't they? I know, yeah yeah. Yeah, the whole playoff thing last year. That's right. That was tough one
Starting point is 00:22:29 I think I caught it this Connor McDavid Yeah From the Edmonton Oilers Say I basically saying he's like the Michael Jordan Last yeah, he stands out. Yeah. Because, well, he was playing down, they played here, right? Yeah. Yeah, because I have a nephew that's a big Panthers fan.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But I was in awe of the way that guy played. Yeah. Yeah, he's terrific. Were you excited when Tatum finally got his championship? I was excited for the Celtics. Don't tell me you like the Knicks, too. You can't do that, Sparks. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I really didn't get, when I was in New York, didn't get that i was in new york to get too many nicks games um... maybe one but i but i grew up a self-expansed souls you know but dave cowell's larry bird all you know i thought it was so it's good to see them when that i've always uh... i've always wondered if there is a player an offensive player or an offensive coordinator that keeps someone like you up at night like if you have a game against them the next day whether it be joe burrow or some coordinator that's is
Starting point is 00:23:31 there a guy that joe burrow's a guy that's one you're not sleeping the night before no listen these quarterbacks there's a bunch of quarterbacks nowadays i always feel like the talented cerebral quarterbacks are the tough ones the guys that little change things in an instant at the line here other guys in the series and jose obviously one of them uh... i mean i guy we go against every day is is top of the yet the heat there but yet i'd the challenge of going you know the game within the game of uh... michael i'm backer you know through the defense of coordinator and the
Starting point is 00:24:03 quarterback through the offensive coordinators is a neat game to be involved with, you know, playing and play out and I enjoy that part of it so when we're facing a team that has a real cerebral quarterback to me that's the biggest challenge but it does does keep you up at night because you know that they can get you these guys that work the cadence and change the calls and get you to show what you're doing and get into something that they're tough which do you think would be an easier transition me this might be a dumb question be said patrick would be a great defensive coordinator because he's
Starting point is 00:24:32 so great at reading defenses anything you do is an offensive coordinate haha i started out on off wait is that true is patrick is quarterback exactly all right all the friends? How about this situation? Patrick becomes a defensive coordinator and you have to scheme the offense against Patrick. Against his defense? Yeah. I don't know if I'd want to do that again.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Just to show off. But listen, I started out in this game on offense. I was a high school quarterback and then I was a college wide receiver and I coached three years on offense. And I forget what year it was like in 83 or 84 the I was at Lafayette College in Pennsylvania of course great head coach Bill Russo we had lost our D line coach and he said I'd like you to go over and
Starting point is 00:25:14 coach the D line and I was fired up I get to coach these big guys it was great for three years I had these this young group of defensive linemen at Lafayette College and then from there I just stayed on defense for the rest of the time. I guess it was a pretty good move. Were you uh? Although coach of those quarterbacks gets pretty cool too. It worked out for you. Everything's worked out well for you.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I know you had a stint as a head coach. I think we discussed this the first time we had you on. That is something I'm not trying to create any sort of rift here. I know you love Andy and you love your job. And in fact, I told you I would stay in that job for the remainder of time because you have that quarterback. But is head coaching something you would you would like to try again? Listen, I get asked this question a lot, sure. I have to be the right situation because I have I'm in a great situation. Yes. I think I think in this profession young coaches in this
Starting point is 00:26:04 profession they jump at the first thing. I certainly did that when I had my first chance. And I think the next time you kind of, you know, if you're sitting in a really good situation, you consider it a little bit differently. But listen, that eagerness is there. And we'll see what happens. Well, you also are in a situation where maybe if you sit long enough, then this situation becomes available, you know? I like working for Andy. He's a good man. So we have you know? Yeah, I like working for Andy. He's a good man. So, we have Andy leaving this quarterback.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I don't think Andy's leaving this quarterback. If you were Andy, would you? No, I would not leave this. Well, I blasted Andy when he benched Alex Smith for Patrick Bohomes. Okay. That take hasn't aged well. No, it hasn't. Did you burn that tape?
Starting point is 00:26:41 No, Dan plays it back just about every single day. He's trying. He's trying. So he it hasn't. You burn that tape? Uh no, Dan plays it back just about every single day. He's trying. So, you know, so he can throw it in my face. Were you laughing like the first two weeks of the season when people were saying,
Starting point is 00:26:53 Kelsey, he's done, he's not focused. Were you and I warned Travis that stuff was coming. Were you worried about that? Were you laughing at that? I'm I'm going to be honest with you. I I I don't hear it. I don't feel like I don't feel that. I I'm not I'm not listen. I don't I'm not flipping through the phone trying to figure all that
Starting point is 00:27:06 stuff out. So I didn't really, I wasn't aware of it. Every once in a while you might hear something, but we don't worry about Travis. I said, Travis is, there's some guys in all of these professional sports that you know when you're going to need them the most, they're going to show up. That's Travis. And he's there. That lateral play though, is that something that's worked on every single day? I think I don't normally see... he does it. He's always looking. He plays around with it in practice. You'll see him do it all the time. It's not like it hasn't been reversed before. And I don't think it shocks his teammates when he's looking to do that. But the thing about that is
Starting point is 00:27:43 you have to have extreme self-confidence, and that's what Travis has, to do something like that. Fortunately for us, it worked. Well, you also have to be Travis Kelsey, right? Like Xavier Worthy does that first year. You're like, let's hold onto that ball a little bit. Yeah, you might want to be cute. You gotta win a little bit first.
Starting point is 00:27:58 What does a bye week look like for you? Because I imagine that as a coach, you don't have a ton of free time, right? So like, when you have a week off, are you like fighting yourself to not get back to work or are you able to just disconnect completely? No, this, what are we today, Friday? So Wednesday to Friday, what will happen now is by the time I wake up tomorrow, it'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:28:18 49 is my next week. And I was watching them last night. Of course you were. But watching, you know, and looking for certain things. I tried to stay away from writing anything down while I was having dinner over at Smith and Walenskis. I got to be careful. I can't do my, I'm trying to spend time with my wife.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Wait, so you're at dinner at Smith and Walenskis with your wife, you're watching the game, and you're thinking about pulling out a pen and a pen and taking notes? I had to be careful. And I, it was great. They were great over there, those two guys, because the Royals were playing the Yankees and I wanted to watch both. So I had one TV with the San Francisco cable, one TV with the baseball cable. I was in heaven.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I was in heaven. Your wife was in heaven? No, she was great. She was great. I got a good wife. Good wife, happy life. Yeah, exactly. Oh man, it's so great.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Your relationship with Andy Reid, what makes that? He's such a great, it's funny how it flipped in Philadelphia. He could win the big game and now he's the guy who only does is win big games. I'm more interested in your relationship with him because he seems, and he's been on with me and Billy and Mike Golick a bunch of times on this show, but he just seems like such a fundamentally decent person. To the core. Yeah. One of the best people, the highest character people we're ever gonna meet and he's just again I go back to how consistent how rock solid he is. Listen Andy's been through some rough times like we all have and yet he's always
Starting point is 00:29:38 steady, he's always the same guy. Right. I think that's a I mean that attribute is huge in a person. I mean nobody likes to be around moody people or you don't know what you're getting. And with Andy, he's just so steady. I think people rely on him for a lot of things around the building, outside the building. I mean you can't even imagine how many people in the business, outside the business, that call Andy for advice. What do you think and when i was when i left and i was one to the giants and i was in saint louis i was always calling what are you gonna do about this
Starting point is 00:30:12 because he's that kind of guy he's a little pick up always is that common with other coaches i think in a lot of ways yes but any unique in that he's been doing it for so long uh... he's just got this unique way about him in terms of never being rattled and seeing things. He can sit back and see big pictures better than anybody I know. You're getting ready for the Niners. Kyle Shanahan. I know you didn't take notes at dinner. Thankfully you didn't do that. I don't want to say something seems a little bit off
Starting point is 00:30:42 with that team. It didn't look awful on last night. No, they looked yeah, but they haven't played you yet No, listen it this is it's gonna be a challenge. We're looking at a little ways here. I'm still in my bi week It's like I'm be cute. I know I know I'm making you take out the notepad though right now Yeah, I'll be when I walk out of here. I'll be John You'll probably give me some I will okay. Can I can I do that? Can I tell you what I see on the tape? Yeah. Okay. You have a team that gives you more trouble than others. The Bengals, I think. The Bengals have been tough. Yeah, that's a good football team. I mean, they're all... Listen, everybody plays us tough. You get everyone's best shot. I think so. Yes. And to the other team's credit, and it's a challenge for us, our guys, to this point have done a good job with it. But we got a long way to the other team's credit and it's a challenge for us our guys to this point Have been a good job with it, but this we got a long way to go
Starting point is 00:31:29 It's the season you know there's gonna be ups and downs in every season It's been we've been fortunate in the five games. We've played but When it doesn't get rough we just we got to get rougher You know and and step up to see what happens the last two years I have questioned whether or not your team is going to win the Super Bowl and you have won the Super Bowl both those years. Would you like me to start doing that again? If whatever you did in the last two years do the same.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I said something's off in Kansas City. They're not right. They're the team I would want to face in the playoffs. I said that before the playoffs last year. And then you guys went on an historic run because Patrick woke up one day and told his wife, hey, I feel like winning the Super Bowl. That's ridiculous that he can do that. Yeah, let's keep. I want you to stay consistent. You guys don't change. Okay. All right. The chief. There's something off. There's something off in Kansas City quickly and we appreciate the time. What was the order at Smith and Willensky's last night?
Starting point is 00:32:19 What do we have? They have a great burger there. I think we got a burger. Yeah, we did because it's good. I don't, I don't usually get a burger, but they have you're in Kansas City. I know well, I know but Away from that I'll get the high cholesterol But it was great that Williams the bartender always a good friend of us he's great Yeah, and we can we walk right over this Listen, this area is terrific. We love coming down. Yeah. We'll be here at some point, you know, when we get done with the when my wife makes like the rest of us to retire. Maybe get too cold in Kansas City. Come coach down here. Kansas City is like 70 degrees right now. It's beautiful. Yeah. The winters are brutal. Yeah. You don't want to be in the winter. Like negative 30
Starting point is 00:33:02 in your first playoff game last year. I'll tell you what, that was tough. And I had been in that championship game we played with the Giants against the Green Bay. In Green Bay was cold. Yeah. Was that the one where Coughlin lost his mind? Yeah, well he was really red. The kicker.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah, the kicker was gonna fall off. It was a great day, but it was cold. How do you stay warm on the sideline? Because the players, once they go out there, the adrenaline's rushing. They've been moving a little bit. Yeah, they can stay warm. Now we got the heaters over there. I mean, now they do a good job with stuff on the sideline? Because the players, once they go out there, the adrenaline's rushing. Yeah, they can stay warm. I got the heaters over there. I mean, now they do a good job with stuff on the sideline, but I bundle up, man.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I was cold. I don't normally wear a stocking hat. I had to wear one for that game because those ears get cold. Tuwa said it's the coldest weather he's ever like. But obviously, he's from Hawaii. He plays in Miami. Who was that? Tuwa. Tuwa said he never wants to go back there again.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah, it was cold that day. It was cold fight for everybody. I mean, it was hard for all, I guess. Are you surprised that Belichick is not coaching right? Like no team wanted Bill Belichick in the off season? Yeah, I mean, look at, best coach ever in the history of football, in my opinion. I'm sure if he wants to do it again,
Starting point is 00:34:02 he'll have his opportunities, but a lot of respect for him. So if you want to, and we'll leave you on this note, I want you to get back to your wife. Oh, yeah. Because I'm sensing she might want you back here. A little time. Yeah, right, a little time. But before you retire down in Florida,
Starting point is 00:34:16 there's a stop you have to make, you know this, right? So I'm just thinking, most people go to New York and then they move down to Florida. And so feel free to stop in New York if you, you know, after the season, you know, because there's a head coaching vacancy there. And we're going to worry about the Chiefs, right? You want him to go up to New York and then come down to Florida? I want Spags to be the head coach at New York.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Spend some time in New York. If you actually like Spags. Because you can't move to Florida. But if you actually like to care about Spags, you wouldn't want him to go to the job. I would tell him to never take that job. That's exactly right. Spags, take the job, please. I love you. You guys are beautiful. He wouldn't want to go to the job. Exactly right. Spags, take the job, please. I love you.
Starting point is 00:34:47 You guys are beautiful. He doesn't want to comment on someone else's job. No, no, no. He won't do it. Good move. He's a man of honor. He won't do that. You don't talk about someone else's job.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Spags, we appreciate it, 5-0. I would say that you guys are going to go undefeated this year, but that would go against what I've said the last two years. So, I'm going to say, hey, I think something's off in Kansas City. Say it with me. I would have. No, that's your words. We appreciate you. You guys are the best. Thank you. All right, get back to your wife. Spagati here for my friends over at Miller Lite. I don't know how your football season is going, but mine is going exactly the way the last 40 football seasons have gone.
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Starting point is 00:36:46 back. We, yeah. Yeah. We're here. Yeah. He was great. I love that he has a waiter. Smith and Walensky. Like he has a guy. I love that he is spending quality time with his wife and he sees the 49ers game on the television and that's
Starting point is 00:37:03 the team they play this coming week. Yeah. And he is tempted to take out a note pad and write down notes about what Brock Purdy is doing on offense. I can't be convinced that he didn't go to the bathroom and do that, you know, like, oh, I'll be right back. I'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He goes like four or five times, comes back. Calls Andy Reid real quick. What's that on your hands? Hey, Andy, I saw this. Yeah. You're fascinated with Taylor turning down NFL jobs that were not offered to him. Yes, I didn't understand it. And he started going down a path where he was like, Yeah, no, I'm not attaching my attaching myself to that coach. That coach is on the way out. And then I'm gonna go to and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:38 this isn't this isn't real life. Taylor, right? This isn't fantasy. Right? We're just you want to believe you want to QCC job or not? Yeah, exactly. He's like, I'm not going to go to Jacksonville. Doug Peterson's on the way out. He actually, he actually. That doesn't mean you get fired if you're the QCC. Well, you probably. Yeah, but maybe you're good at being the quality control
Starting point is 00:37:54 coach and and you know, Doug Peterson's not good at being a coach. Yeah, he told Spags. He goes, Doug Peterson on the way out. Spags would never hire Tim. Spags is kind of like, OK, what's wrong with you? Anyways, see you Friday. Yes, special edition of God Bless Football on a Wednesday with Spag.
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