The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF: The BCS Returns + Jevon Holland, Mostert, Ekeler & More
Episode Date: December 1, 2023(0:00) The guys recap a good TNF game between the Seahawks and the Cowboys. (8:43) Jevon Holland won America 98 inch TVs after his Hail Mary return. (20:45) The final BCS rankings of the year are reve...aled to Golic. Who made the playoffs? (38:54) Raheem Mostert reacts to the Dolphins loss of Jaelan Philips, the best strategy for picking up his kids from school and to invite Stugotz out for some drinks. (56:55) Stu Ya Gotz. (1:00:16) Chris Simms isn't happy about his family's Thanksgiving Day game. (1:18:40) Austin Ekeler wants to play BINGO with you. (1:30:41) Gordie takes us on a tour of his mom's house as they guys make their weekly picks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Oh, God bless football, Billy Gill. God bless football, Mike. Yeah. God bless football.
Stood up. Thank you, Mike. Yeah. We have a lot going on. Big game last night. You guys are all fired up about
deck press. God. Are you guys, I mean, Mike, yeah, you Billy are just taking shots. Unnecessary shots at
deck press. No. What do you mean? No unfair unfair falsehood. That's not what's going on.
Look, let's just look. Can we just start this way? Yeah. Thank you, Cowboys. And thank
you, Seahawks, for finally having a good Thursday night football game. For entertaining us.
Yes. Yes. Thank you. Right. It makes sense. It's the first Thursday night game where they
literally had a week. Like it wasn't they played Sunday and then they played Thursday.
They played last Thursday, right? It was garbage. Now this Thursday, it looks good. They had a full week arrest. You're right.
It's a good point, Mike. I didn't even think about it last time as I was watching the game. I'm like,
wow, these two teams are playing well. Did you see the, uh, the big news? So there's going to be
a flex this year, which I was kind of surprised by the game that's getting flexed out. The game that's
getting flexed out is actually a chiefs game. So Monday night football is choosing not to go with Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey
because they're playing the Patriots. Oh, okay. Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, imagine
that a few years ago. Patriots getting a bomb. Against Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. It is crazy.
Rebellichek. Now get that out of here. Uh, we have a lot going on.
Cowboys win last night, 41 to 35 over the sea hawks.
Deck press got last seven games.
I want you guys to hear this, okay?
Before I tell everyone who's joining us today, we have Washington and Oregon tonight,
packed 12 championship game, very exciting weekend coming up.
But Daccan is last seven games, guys.
70% completion percentage
23 touchdowns to interceptions. I don't trust them. I mean
Don't trust do it in the postseason. I have to do it. It matters. Yeah, do it when it matters
I mean do it listen next week they have Philadelphia at home beat him beat him now
We threw for three touchdowns. No one just options at Philly a few weeks ago.
They lost the game.
Do that and beat them.
Here's the thing, Mikey, is I think that we influenced Stugots in what we were saying
before the show started.
Yeah, if we had had my conversation, he was ready to call back the best mother back
in the NFL.
He didn't want to be the outlier.
He knows me so well, Mikey.
Yeah.
Hey, really?
Well, for those of you who were not listening to us, please show which was everybody because
how could you have been?
That press got seems to be a little, here's a little screen pass here. He's a little
screen pass there. Pass interference, ADR gain. And here's a little screen pass for a touchdown,
three yards. Are you choosing him? He is a little check down Charlie, right? But the thing that he is mastered right now, that
billionaire I were discussing, Brian, deck press got has become the king of throwing the
passenger fear. It's ball. He under throws a long shot and just waits for the DB to run into his
receiver and they get the flag every time he's really good at it. Are you saying that? Are you
saying it's a skill or does he not have an arm? No, no, it's definitely a skill. All right.
Okay. Really him and him and Gino were both utilizing that weapon last night. I feel
like the weapon. The last night's MVP was defensive passenger fear and slag right by
the end zone and DK that guy's hard to stop. Forgive my ignorance. I didn't know DK Metcalf was so fast.
I didn't know that DK Metcalf was going to own the fastest speed in the NFL this season.
And hey, I'm going to ruin the Dolphins party.
I'm not the fastest person in the league this year.
All right.
Are you watching?
Did you watch the Seahawks for the first time last night or what's going on there?
No, I didn't watch it for the first time.
But like all season long has it's been dolphin fastest person.
Another dolphin, another dolphin, another dolphin. DK Metcalf. Oh my God. He's the fastest person in
the league. And you know what it is that confuses or that has to see me on that? He is so big and
strong. Then I'm like, how can someone that size also be so fast? He's a freak. I mean, he really
is. Well, I'm saying that I'm saying that in a good way, like a freak's a freak. I mean, he really is. Well, I mean, he's a lovely person.
I'm saying that in a good way, like a freak athlete, Billy.
I'm not saying he's a freak.
I mean, I said, I'm a freak.
So I have a question.
If he's so big and strong, he's so fast.
Let me ask you this.
Why isn't he better?
I don't know.
Gina Smith.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't have an answer for you.
I really don't.
I like the game of who do we blame for DK McCaff not being the best player in the NFL. This is fun. I'm not certain.
Pete Kerry. He knows it was taken. How many names do we go before we blame DK? I mean,
not his fault. That's not that is not an option here. You sound silly. If you were the
quarterback of the Seahawks, you would be throwing to him on every down.
Is that what you're saying?
Yes.
I'm with you.
I think I'm with you.
I'm really loaded today, Billy.
We have Austin Eccler.
He's going to join us where he most hurts going to join us.
Javon Holland is going to join us.
He, the guy who caused the fail Mary against the jets, it wasn't his fault.
Was it?
Most certain Holland. What are you doing to me? Sorry. It's weird. What are you doing to me?
We have, I mentioned that, Claire, we have the boys make of the pigs. We also have Chris Sims
and we have Mike Goliath, hopped up on drugs. I mean, well, hold on, hold on. You're bearing
you're bearing the lead. What? We have the final BCS rankings of the season. Our playoffs
are set and you're going to find out who made it and who didn't make it in final BCS rankings of the season. Our playoffs are set and you're going
to find out who made it and who didn't make it in our BCS rankings with Mike Goli.
It is a great point. I'm sorry. I left that out. And we do it while he's hopped up on
drugs. Well, yes. But it'll make sense once you get to that portion. Billy, do we have
a game this week to play with our listeners for great. We do go to dkng.co slash levitard compete against us in fantasy.
Once you're there, if you become a friend of the levitard and friends group, then every
week it's very easy.
You just go there and you'll see the weekly competition in there and you can compete against
us.
You don't have to go through the whole rigmarole of going to the internet and all that
stuff. Going to the internet and all that stuff
How you guys going? Javan some of us are doing better than others because there's a dolphins fan in here And there's two jets fans in here, so I did a little bird did tell me that there was a jet's fan in here
Unfortunately, yeah, I'm just sorry for that outcome. Yeah, that's tough
Who was the little bird? I want to see him hard.
You see my first joint when I first joined somebody said, uh, Mike, I'm out of
menu. Sorry about that, man.
The bird isn't so little.
How's that?
That's telling which one it was.
I have so much to ask this guy.
I really do.
And it's all about one single play.
Perhaps the greatest play in the NFL this year.
Mike, with a Jets, that's what happens to us.
These are the things that happen to us, the team, and our fans, Mike, you know that.
That's where I want to start with, if it was any other team, would you have even tried
to return it like if it was the bills would you just been like, oh, I'm just going to go
down.
No, it's a chance.
I know the bills.
I would have tried to backflip. Probably I would would try to throw a little backflip or something.
Like that. Those little extra some on the end.
Wait, Javan also played wide receiver. So he was taking that thing to the
house, right? Javan 100% and I'm a returner too. So that's, you know, people don't,
they forget that I'm a returner too. Yeah.
Javan, I have a question for you. So who do you think was more upset about
you returning that for a touchdown?
Was it the Jets fans?
Was it the Jets?
Or was it TCL who you're here on behalf of,
who you cost a million dollars in TVs
that they now need to give away?
Honestly, I think they were more excited than upset.
I had no idea that TCL was actually doing the promotion.
It's the ultimate game day upgrade.
They've been doing this all season.
And apparently, I'm the first one that they had actually come to fruition
So I didn't know about it so after the game my agents kept me up and they were like yo turns out you won a
98 inch
Flat screen TV and TCL is giving like a million dollars worth of
Last-screen TVs out 98 inches. So I'm like man
Add more the more the merrier. So I thought it was cool. I thought all of the upgrades that they had
during the season, they were pretty unique. And not many of them happen.
Like I was the first one, but they still got them going on. Like there's one,
this Thursday night game, the Cowboys to see Hawks. If any of them score,
you know, 50 points or more, then they're giving out like 50k and TVs and flat screens.
So shout out to TCL man. A lot of people might get TCL makes up with TLC, but it's TCL.com slash upgrades.
You guys go in, check it out, see if you can enter in to get those upgrades because no scrubs.
That is well done by you, man. I'm definitely getting the upgrade.
Now you're good at this. That was well done by you. There are three people on this zoom who could use the TV.
I mean, you know, what do you decide who gets them?
I might have to put in a little word for you, man.
I keep in mind two of us are Jeff fans, though, okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You ripped our heart out.
At the least you could do is put a TV on the wall, you know what I'm saying?
And 98 inch TV is a wall, Javon.
It's 80, it's 80, 84 inches wide.
I put my tape measure up to my wall.
I got like two inches of room on each side.
So I think I'm pretty good.
Wait, what's your, what's your wingspan?
My wingspan, like, yeah, can you carry the TV?
Like, it's a massive TV.
No, I don't know.
84 inches is huge, dude.
Like, I don't know if I got that type of
eastman but. Well, Wilkins could right? I mean Wilkins. He might be able to. I might be
wimpy if I carry that type of TV. Alright, so wait a second. So, so the balls in the
air that jets are going for a Hail Mary that turns into a Hail Mary, okay? Like we need
to know this. Just, just put us there. You see the ball. It's coming to you. You catch
it. You're running it back. like put us there, what are you thinking
as the whole play is going, Dad?
As soon as the play happens,
as soon as I see him throw the ball in the air,
because I thought he was gonna get sucked.
He threw it in the air, I checked my left and my right,
I see my fellow DBs boxing out,
because usually like I'm back there to knock the ball down,
and that's what we practice, like me knocking the ball down.
No, second quarter, like going in the half time,
couple of seconds left, we're about to get the ball coming out of half time. I was like,
oh yeah, let me make some happen. So boom, I get the ball immediately I'm thinking
return. It's kind of like drop field goal when there's a whole bunch of slow
line in and that's about it, maybe a kicker or so, but no, I just, I just let
the pump returner in me just flow and it, you know, it worked out for the best
of us. And then Christian threw a crazy block on breeze hall pancaking
them and then I had to I had to shift my man 10 boil unfortunately but I had to do
it I had to do it to get to his own so right what did you see in the scouting
report so that you knew 10 boil wouldn't be able to tackle you it wasn't much I
seen some tape years ago just you know lack of tackling an ability after a pick so I a pig. So I was like, you know, I could take advantage of that. Mike, you just don't
them. Maybe we would have taken a sack. We would have cheered. We would have cheered
those. Yes. Timmy got sacked. Go ahead, Billy.
Javana, have some bad news for you. I looked it up and your wingspan is 76 and 5, 8 inches.
So you can not carry the TV by yourself. Yeah, definitely need some assistance for sure.
Yeah.
Wait, so Wilkins was chugging down the field and he was banking guys for you.
That's great.
Yeah, he was banking guys lead blocking for me.
He was like, come this way, this way.
So I had to follow by my man 94.
You had the rare Sunday off because you guys played on Black Friday, which was interesting.
So did you watch the games on Sunday?
Like how do you do that?
How does that work for you?
Yeah, just I'll just turn them on. I mean, it felt like when I was back in high school or in middle school, I
used to get up early and watch games with my pops. So it felt good to just be able to do that, chill
and a couch, relax, enjoy football. I think to rekill, I think this is going to be an obvious
yes for you, but I think to rekill is the MVP of the NFL this season. Do you agree? Yeah, I mean,
he's having a phenomenal year for sure. What's it like guarding him in practice?
Very difficult.
Like, if you, it's just like certain things he does.
Like, it's not the fact that he's fast.
It's the fact that he's fast in and out of his break.
It's not like, he can run elite routes as well.
That's the difficult part in guarding him is that.
He's not just a fast, straight line guy.
Like, he can run left, right, up, down.
Like, he does all of the change of direction
just as fast as he runs straight so that's what makes it
tough. We love your coach how would you describe Mike McDaniel?
Unique. Unique. One of a kind for sure. Really? Like never had a coach like
it never right? Never had a coach like him. When you see the video and he's cold
and he's outside and he's telling jet fans that he's cold but also reminding
him that he's winning like you love that right? Yeah, I mean, but and honestly like I would do the same thing
I mean if I'm cold, I'm that jet right there is like it's hot. It's nice in the cold game
So I'll do the same thing while I'm especially with deepened so like bro
I'm not gonna just stay out there be cold cuz other coaches do it. I would stand in front of the heater
What is hard knocks been like for you guys? It's a little different because it's in the season
It's been cool. It's a NFL films does a great job of kind of like hiding the cameras and not really
putting them all in your face and everything like that. I think the only camera that you can
kind of see is during the team meeting. It's like in the corner. It's like a remote control camera.
But other than that, they kind of just been low key. Like they pop up when media is in the
locker room and you know the regular media times but Everything else is kind of they kind of like hide them still like invisible, you know
It's been cool, but it's also cool to like see it on TV and now like you're watching the week and our preparation and how
You know like to was preparing against Max Crosby and how Clinton Bell was able to like bump them around and practice
I thought that was really cool, too
You have anyone that you see that's kind of like acting up a little bit, trying to get a little extra camera time like your coach is handing out cakes or anything.
No, no, so people have asked me if coach Campanelli, if he is like putting it on for the camera,
but he's the same.
If not more turned up when the cameras are off, like that's just him throwing through.
So he's real passionate guy, loves football, loves playing ball.
So have you got in the cake? Did you get a cake this week?
I haven't gotten a cake yet, but I do get a cake.
I got one against Denver.
I got a cookie cake, which is like pretty unique for DBS
to turn over.
So what's your favorite cake just out of curiosity?
Cheesecake.
Really?
New York style?
New York style.
I'm a big cheesecake guy.
You love that crust, right?
Like that grand, the grand cracker crust at the bottom there. Yes, delicious.
Delicious. I don't even say Fudgey the whale. I love Fudgey the whale. Wait, hold on a second.
You said you got a cookie cake. So are you guys getting different types of cakes for different accomplishments?
Yeah, they're like different styles for I don't know the specifics, but I know that like cookie cake was like a specific like to turn over defense a back cake and then there is the regular cake and you get a wedding cake so wait hold on
I'm not gonna wedding cake you wait you're gonna be gifted a wedding cake yeah like a giant it's
like a giant cake and everybody shares it of course you know among the team but it's a giant cake it's
it's pretty hefty and do you do you know you know this will house? I just want to announce that.
It seems like there's a scale, but I'm also wondering, like, did you get a cookie cake?
Because the bakery was out of cakes that day, and that's what was left.
No, he said, like, my position coach is the one that kind of brought it to fruition and
like, designed it.
He said that cookie cake was just two turnovers by a DB, like two punch outs.
That's like what it was for.
So I was like, all right.
And then he told me I might get a weight in cake or I might get a regular cake
I don't know but we're gonna see on Thursday with the turnover or it's called the ball meeting. Have you ever seen Fangio left?
I actually
Well
Like I don't honestly don't have never seen him like chuckle like actually
like I don't honestly don't have never seen him like chuckle like actually just full on laugh maybe like a here like smile maybe a smirk but he's a stoic guy
man he's a stoic guy it's all the lighten up I mean yeah I just this
person out you know he's been around the league for a long time he's a OG keeps it
cool calm collated are you concerned like Rahim was very vocal you guys lost
jail and fill ups and Rahim was vocal about that
Field and how dangerous that field is did you do you feel it like do you actually feel like you're threatened while you're playing on it?
Yeah, you you almost can't get your footing like the field is trash
I don't I said it in the me in my post-game interview. I don't like the field. I think it's trash and I think that it needs to change
It's just you can't really get your you can't really feel stable in the ground in that field.
And a lot of injuries have occurred,
especially this year from that specific midlife field.
So definitely needs to change.
All right, we're gonna let you go here in a second.
We'll talk about TCL and the ultimate game day update as well
in just a second on the way out here.
But you did play your college football at Oregon.
Big game this weekend.
They are disrespecting Washington.
Washington already beat you. They aren't defeated and they're plus 10. But you have Oregon
winning and covering them assuming, right? Of course. Of course. A broken clock is
right twice a day. And just how happens that Washington was right on that one
day. But there will not be right again. Talk to championships,
University of Oregon, 2025. But 10 points. I mean, that's a lot. And they're
going to smoke them boys. I'm trying to tell you, man. Just wait. Just wait. Bo Nick's going to win the Heisman. That's going to be his Heisman day, right?
Bo Deicis for the Heisman. Bo Deicis. It's his 12th year in college.
Yeah.
Phoenix, the same thing though. Phoenix, been in the league for five years. Six years.
Yeah. You're the league. It's college football. I love that we call the league that.
They get paid big bucks, man. Shoot. If I was in college, right, when they brought that money out,
I would have still been in college. That is so great. All right. Hey, you big bucks, man. Shoot. If I was in college, right, when they brought that money out, I would have still been in college this day. That is so great. All right.
Hey, you've been great. We appreciate it. Good luck. The rest of the way. But one more
time here on the way out, TCL, the ultimate game day update. Tell the listeners what you're
doing with them. Yeah. So they still got a game day update going on. They're giving
now 50 K. If the cowboys in the haw Hawk score more than 50 points this upcoming Thursday game you guys can go in to tco.com slash upgrades to get your chance to win
TVs, flash screens, whatever you can think of this Thursday.
All right, so how do we do this?
Send you our address.
What do you want?
Like what?
You got to go online.
You got to go online.
No, no, we got to pick a sub.
Yeah, we got to go online at tco.com. Okay. no, I'm going to pick a sub. Yeah, you got to go online at tco.com
Okay, max lash upgrades. That's as far as I know anything else. They go handling, but I'm just a messenger
All right
Listen
Not for me, but for dolphin fans for South Florida. Okay, they've been waiting for a good team down here for a long long time
Okay, go with a super bowl for us. All right, you got it
Hello, oh long time. Okay, go with a Super Bowl for us, all right? You got it. Hello.
Hello. How you feeling? Yeah, I felt better. Have you passed the kidney stone or have I before?
I have one in the early 90s and I don't remember. It's the worst pain. I mean, you're double,
I'm double over in the back seat yesterday going to the emergency room. Just praying that I can get through all the rigor moral
of checking in to get to the drugs.
Because I mean, you can't, as Billy knows,
you can't have a comfortable position.
I've had 12 surgeries, got hurt on the football field,
and I've never had pain that such a small thing
pays off.
And they put the IV in and he said okay. Here comes the morphine. I'm like oh
I mean and within a minute. I'm just like
Mikey A if you passed the candy stone before I have not I have not so okay
I'm terrified this is what's it feel like can you explain the person like what it feels like like give me some comparison bases
I don't know. As I've said, Stu, I've had 12 surgeries.
I've been hurt on the football field many times.
Nothing has compared to this pain
that goes in your lower stomach and into your back.
You, the thing about it is that the worst part is,
it's, you know, it's not a joint or anything.
It's inside and it's just a dull, constant achy pain and you can't find a comfortable position
to get rid of it. Normally, you know, if my shoulder hurts, if I rest in a certain way,
it relieves it or my knee or something. This, you can't. There's no comfortable position
until you get drugs in you that
numbs you from that pain. The funny thing about kidney stones to gots is as soon as you pass it,
it's instantly gone. The pain just vanishes immediately. All immediately. It's the craziest thing.
So weird. The good thing is though, like you start slowly feeling it, like move. Like when it's
moving, it really hurts, but then the pain will go to your side. You're like, okay, like you start slowly feeling it like move like what it's moving it really hurts
But then the pain will go to your side, you know like okay, like I have an idea that this is gonna pass soon enough
You know, I mean like maybe don't take another day, but at least we're like we're headed in the right direction because you feel it
Move through your entire body until it finally goes out. Do you have to Mike not to get too personal?
Do you have to? Did they give you like a?
it only goes out. Do you have to, Mike, not to get too personal. Do you have to, uh, did they give you like a, uh, what is the word I'm looking for? Like something you have
to pee in to to try to catch the stone? No, or you're just going straight in. Just going
straight in. Yeah. Whenever it comes out, it comes out again. They, they said it's not of
the size that it's a real concern. They said five or six millimeters, they get concerned.
This is three. So they're not too
concerned. I so bummed out. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, they give you drug. You go home with
drugs. I mean, and listen, I take them. I may firm. I did it when I was playing. I took
drugs for pain. I took the needable for a game. I am a firm believer in modern medicine.
Much like Aaron Rogers is to try and get back on the field. The firm believer, well, Mike, let's just start at the most obvious place. What do
you make of the most recent rankings here? I mean, all four undefeated teams should be
there. And if all on all four undefeated teams win their conference championship,
it's going to be an easy decision. And people are going to try and make a debate that Florida
state isn't one of the top four teams. And I could see the debate for that, but you can't put
a one-loss team over Florida State if they win the ACC championship. I don't see any
possible way you can do that. Here's the big question I want to ask you guys.
Okay, but Michael, one second before you ask that question, by putting Florida
State at four, they have essentially said win in your ring, correct? Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Without question, win in your ring.
Completely agree.
So here's the thing that Mike and I completely disagree on.
Alabama beats Georgia.
Right.
Okay.
Now a one-loss team is going to get into the party.
Does Alabama get in over Texas?
If Texas wins their big total championship,
beat Oklahoma State and they have one loss,
Alabama beats Georgia and their one loss is to Texas.
And only one of those teams ends up getting in.
Is it Alabama or is it Texas?
Mike has said the SEC could be completely left out.
If that's the case, I want to see a solo camera on Greg Sanky, the commissioner of the SEC
to watch his head explode.
I don't think there's any way that happens.
And I think Alabama would get in over Texas.
He disagrees because he said Texas has been ahead of Alabama and the rankings, which they
have.
But all of a sudden, if Alabama beats the committee's number one team in the country, I think they would get
in over Texas if only one of them goes, we'll see.
All right.
Are we ready for the BCS?
Well, I want to ask Mike quickly, what do you think the playoffs going to be when it's
all set and done the weekends over?
It's going to be a great week at somebody great games.
What do you think the playoff is going to be? I think Michigan is the first lock. I picked Washington at the beginning of the year
to make the final four because it's always about us and we want to be right. I would like
to see Washington winning them be in, but I'll be honest, I think Oregon's going to be
to me. I think Oregon right now could be the best team in the country. Okay. They're
playing their defense is playing well. The offense is playing well. I love I think Oregon right now could be the best team in the country. Okay. The way they're playing.
Their defense is playing well.
The offense is playing well.
I love it.
I think they beat Washington.
All right.
So you have Michigan and Oregon in.
Do you think Florida State's going to win quickly?
I do think Florida State's going to do it.
So they're it.
And I think Georgia's going to win.
So yeah, Georgia Michigan, Oregon, Florida State.
Yes.
Mike, now we're going to give you this is the final BCS of 2023.
So our playoffs are locked.
Wait, before the conference championship, yeah, we're not going to, no, no, they're locked.
We're not going to waive. We're back and forth. These are the teams that are getting in.
Okay. Now, Chris couldn't be here today. Mikey A will, we'll give you Chris's. Chris
has, I don't know what he's doing, but he does get you know, you're responsible.
You're one of the committee, the one of the what he's doing, but he does get you know, to the irresponsible like the committee.
The one right most of the committee Chris is not paying attention.
You guys are giving a final list without all the games being played.
We've seen enough.
I hate you.
We've seen enough.
The committee.
Yeah.
We watch the least half of one of each game.
No, not boring injury.
We've seen enough.
This is it.
All right. I'm not boring. I'm not boring. We've seen enough. This is it. This is it.
All right, Mike, as you know, with the, with the BCS, we start with the number one team
in the country.
And it was also a reminder.
Our playoffs also already expanded to six teams.
So six teams will get it not the four.
All right.
I like that.
The top six are in.
Mike, E.A.
Take us away here.
Get us started with the number one team in our BCS rankings.
This one was easy, Mike Michigan.
Big win over Ohio State last weekend.
They undoubtedly lead the league in IYNCYN, TAN,
OTH, TMTY.
You're not cheating, you're not trying,
and no one tried harder than Michigan this year. Well said. Well said. I can't complain about that at all.
I cannot. They wanted it the most Mike. I mean, that's right. They went to extreme.
The check is interested in that job. Yeah. There you go.
Yes. You know, that's a hard boss interested in his job. I here we go right out of the gate. I'm in agreement.
I would have no problem.
Wow.
Let's see how long that lasts.
Yeah, I know.
I'm feeling as good a hand now.
I don't think so, Mike.
Number two, another one of your four,
Florida State.
Because Mike and the BCS,
we don't hold injuries against teams.
So Mike, being said,
I-N-T-F-J-T-G-H.
It's not their fault.
Jordan Travis got hurt. However, T-, S U S, they need to show us something.
Yeah, they do. I agree with that. Show us something. I'm while I wouldn't have put them to Final Rankin. I'm not overly down on that pick because
wait, but Mike, but Michael, the other second, Mikey A is right. Billy, why did they need to show us something? If this is the final ranking, they've already shown it to us.
It's a metric, it's a metric.
Correct, I got a correct.
Nice one.
I'm going to come it right now.
Well, because that's correct.
Here's the thing though, they're not, they're not number one,
they're number two.
That's why they're number two.
They need to show us something.
I love it, it's a metric.
It's like AJ Brown thing, the earth is flat.
Just watch a rocket take off and you can tell why.
I mean, what? Well, we don't need to get into that here. Yeah, we know. Let's going to be talking about that. I'm not talking about that. I'm not
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And of course, another important metric, A, arch.
How about that?
Arch.
Arch.
Look at the game, Arch.
You got some playing time, huh?
One, one, one, two, for five or something like that?
Hey, they were touchdown pass.
They 30 yards.
They're a little bit of slow V.A.
I don't think anything through a touchdown. Doesn't matter. He's lurking, Mike. He's around. He's a touchdown pass. They're 30 yard. The lyrics love the A. I don't think I don't think you threw a touchdown.
Doesn't matter.
He's lurking, Mike.
He's around.
He's a manning is around.
I'm not overly disappointed in you.
OK.
And normally would be at this point.
Remember there's six Mike.
There's six.
Oh, I just six.
Yeah.
All right.
So number four, number four, got to go to the SEC,
even though I disagree. But you got'll go number four. Gotta go to the SEC even though I disagree,
but you gotta go with Alabama.
Of course they lead the league in DYS, HTW, T-I-B.
Did you see how they won the Iron Bowl?
Oh, a point, one chance per cent to win that thing
and they won it.
But remember, they also lead in G, Goosebumps, Mike.
Goosebumps. Forget the Heismosebumps, Mike. Goosebumps.
Forget the Heisman moment, Mike.
Forget the Heisman moment.
That was their BCS moment.
They're in.
You've got Alabama over Georgia at this point,
but one thing I do like that when you start
to match up the first round in the playoffs,
you now have Texas playing Alabama.
Three, four, playing one another in a rematch. Well keep in mind we're six Mike. No, I know
But you said why three plays four six plays one in five plays two three plays four drugs. You have your first matchup right now
We'll see maybe I'll back up. All right, Mike
Now now this is where things start to get interesting
number five were things start to get interesting. Number five, Oregon. Now Mike, I need to tell you,
I was not in agreement with this one, but the committee thought this was an important
metric. BSO WN ANCS WWTT B U I-F. Billy said Oregon will never win the national championship, so we want this to blow up in
his face.
Also, Mike, T-W-W-D-L-W-R-M-M-C-L-B-A-T-F.
Them winning with Dan Lanney would really make Mario Christovall look bad, and that's funny.
Boy, boy.
Yeah, boy.
And listen, as I said earlier,
I could see them winning the championship.
So you have them against Florida state in round one,
which but the most interesting thing to me right now is you have one slot left.
That's right.
And you don't have Washington undefeated or a number, a number of undefeated.
So one left.
Yeah.
One slot.
All right.
Here we go.
Mike. He didn't like to feed in Mike. Yeah stuff. Gonna be an undefeated. Has to be.
Has to be an undefeated. Oh, it's not. Is it? You guys are set me up. You rap
bastards. Mike number six is Liberty. Wow. They are undefeated. Mike. They
lead the country in GM L O GM D. Give me Liberty or give me death.
You put them there just so you could use that line.
No, no, they also lead the country in THL. They have it lost.
Yeah, they haven't.
Neither has Washington or Georgia. Mike, they also lead the country.
What happened to you?
They also lead the country in WHO L they do? They do. They also lead the country in W-H-O-L-L-T-A-T-O-A-O-S.
We have one less loss than Alabama, Texas, Oregon,
and Ohio State.
That is true.
Yeah.
Thank you.
But they have the same amount of losses as Washington.
And Georgia, guys, you know what I'm watching?
They're Georgia in there.
Listen, in a head to head,
you're going to do enough.
You're going to go with who has the more, give me liberty or give me death. Exactly. You don't have watching dinner Georgia in there. Listen, in a head to head, you're doing that.
Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now.
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Do it now.
Do it now.
Do it now. Do it now. Do it now. Do it now. Do it now. Liberty or FSU and Texas playing Alabama. Mike, are you telling me that Liberty would have no shot
against Michigan because it's good nose.
I mean, it knows.
Appalachian state beat him once, you know.
You know what?
Liberty might have a better shot than Iowa does.
Wow.
No doubt they should put him in the big 10 championship game.
Ha, ha, ha.
Oh, wow.
Well, you know what?
This shouldn't shock me.
You guys started it out strong and then you made me
scratch my head. Well, now's my egg. Whoa shock me you guys started out strong and then you made me scratch my head
Well now's Mike
Yeah, we still we still got to finish out the top 10 here Mike
So you know even though these teams fell slightly short number one on the OLI the outside looking in is Georgia
This might come as a surprise to some lesser rankings have ranked undefeated Georgia as the best team in the country
Come as a surprise to some lesser rankings have ranked undefeated George as the best team in the country.
But unfortunately Mike and the BCS, we ranked teams on what has actually happened, not
what we think will happen.
And just because you're undefeated, that doesn't mean you're automatically going to get
in.
So unfortunately Mike right now, they lead the league in TDDIAAE.
They didn't do it against Alabama early enough. And possibly, the L-T-L, two little, two late plus Mike,
were S-N-S-I-T-M-S-B-Y-B-W-G-B-T-Y.
Still not sure if they missed that's in Bennett yet,
but we'll get back to you.
Wow, that's in Bennett.
Well, if they live this weekend, we'll get back.
Not sure yet.
It doesn't matter to be quite honest with you.
No, it doesn't matter.
No, it doesn't matter.
You can play Alabama, play him early enough
for this SEC championship game late this season.
By the way, T-I-L.
You guys know next September 28, who is playing Georgia
at Alabama, regular season matchup.
Oh, wow, that's gonna be fun.
Well, Georgia has a chance next.
There you go.
So wait till next year guys, because you're playing Alabama early.
Someone must have left them the rankings, I guess.
Yeah.
They said we better schedule, Alabama.
Right.
Number eight, Mike, you've been screaming about it out of the pack 12, uh,
Washington, although they are still technically undefeated and beat Washington State, they DEI-TPT-L-T-G-S-I-O-E-R-B-T-L-I.
Did everything in their power to lose that game?
So in our personal record book, they lost it. And as you know in the BCS, one of our main rules is also
IYLWSYDGITP.
If you lose to Washington State, you don't get into the playoffs.
And for that reason, Washington is on the OLA.
Wow, what the...
And I add something as to why Washington should be in the top group.
You can, but it doesn't matter.
I'm going to do it in letters and numbers.
Well, TB, TB, O, Y and five T.
They beat Oregon, your number five team.
How about that?
What is that?
What is that?
But what is that, dude?
Are they giving me liberty or give me death?
They lost to Washington state in our personal record book.
Who did?
They did not lose to Washington State.
That's what we said in our personal record book.
Yeah, you got to be in our personal record book.
You wonder why I hate you guys.
What?
The drugs are kicking in.
The drugs are kicking in.
No, but I like this.
He's not nearly as angry as he normally would be
because of the drugs.
Yeah.
This is becoming more painful than me passing the kidney stones. We are the kidney stones
of your life. Yes, true. Perhaps this will make you put you in a better mood. Okay.
Yeah. It's the O O L I might be a tie at number nine. Wow. And speaking of nine.
First time it's happened. Yeah. On December 9, These two teams will face off in what we think should be the national
championship game every single year. We do. It should be the national championship game. Mike,
it is number nine army taking on number nine Navy. Wow. Listen, I have always said, you know,
I'll never, I'll never rip a an armed
service is being in there. Those who have never been to a a Army Navy game live
do yourself a favor and make the trips on year. It is incredible.
Absolutely incredible. Yeah, go this year number nine versus number nine.
That's right. Oh my god. Yeah. What a man. Let's all say it together.
They lead the country in the most important metric.
T-Y-F.
T-Y-F.
Y-S.
It's gotta be thank you for your service.
That's right.
Thank you.
That's right, you.
You win it.
See, you guys ended it on a positive note
where I like you again.
All right, Mike, well, we appreciate
you tolerating our nonsense.
Good ranking, huh?
What do you think?
Yeah.
They started out well and finished up
a little shaky.
But and the fact that you did the rankings before the last games were even played.
I guess just shows how progressive you guys really are.
For say, yeah, exactly.
Mike, Melissa, something to look forward to next year is when it expands to 12 teams,
we'll do 20 of these.
Okay. That's right.
That's right.
I guess that's why this is my last year on the program.
Oh, and Mike, we'll get back to you on Stetson Bennett. Yeah.
Starting to hate you worse than Billy Mike. Yeah. Wow.
It's the drug stock. That's it. It is. It is. I can't be held responsible for anything I said.
Okay. You can get out of here. I
gotta get some rest. I'm going to enjoy the a joint championship weekend. Hopefully
a stone comes out. See I'll be a stone see you. I want to tell you something
Rahim okay because you become a friend. All right. Christian McCaffrey.
Christian McCaffrey to re kill. Jamar chase. Stefan digs. They all have less touchdowns than you my man. You lead the fucking NFL and touchdowns for him. I know that that gives you goosebumps, doesn't it?
It kind of yeah, it's like it but it gives me more
Errors to like score even more so that way I could like in the talk, you know what I mean or hold out. Yeah, yeah
in the talk, you know what I mean? Or hold out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, hold out.
One of the reasons over, you should not take another snap
until you have a new contract.
Don's right about that.
We care about you, right?
Listen, HN's heard I think now's the time.
Do it right now.
Right now?
Yeah.
Make Hard Knocks interesting.
Let me score at least three more rush and touchdowns
like a beat I would with Ricky Williams, and then we'll go.
OK.
Then the holdout starts. Yeah, then we could we could think of some some some some schematics.
All right, but that's pretty cool. If I told you before the season, you'd have more touchdowns
it to re-cale Jermard Chase. All the guys in his name. You be like, what? Yeah, I'd be
like, you're nuts. What's the bigger accomplishment this year leading the league and touchdowns are surviving the turf at MetLife. Oh,
Jesus.
Honestly, that surviving at turf at MetLife is kind of that's that's I'm glad I was able to survive it. It was
that that turf monster is crazy out there.
What's going on there? How are they injuring everyone?
I don't I really don't know. I think it's just I think the
turf just does too much. It doesn't give like you don't have any leeway when
you're you know going and trying to play football like grass at least breaks
into pieces where it's like turf is just all one chunk that just sticks
together like it is they say the pellets are supposed to do certain things but
in reality pellets and it's do certain things, but in reality,
pellets, and it's just, they, those things just get caught in your mouth. That's, that's about it.
You feel it when you're playing like I'm running the risk of getting injured on this field. Is
that, is that fair? I mean, if you have so much adrenaline, you're not really thinking about
this playing servers, you know, but like when you see injuries go down, you're like, oh, wait a second.
Now I need to take a back seat.
This is kind of nerve-wracking, you know, to continue to keep playing on these type of
surfaces.
It's not welcoming, you know, it's not, I mean, to see one of your brothers go down is like
as tough.
I mean, especially with JP, he's like, he's been ballin', You know, he was coming back from injury and he's been playing lights out.
You know, he's gonna be a player to be rectified for the next several years as a key guy
on the defense. So for him, that to go out, man, I just, uh, and especially like at the start of a play, like, non-contact,
I mean, obviously, like I said, there's, there's plenty of science behind, uh, you know,
turf and non-contact injuries that are some very severe.
Rahim coming into the season, there were lots of expectations for the dolphins.
They were a super bowl talk.
It calmed down a little bit when you guys have lost a couple games, especially to like,
the Eagles, the Chiefs, the bills, whatever, right?
Do you like it better when you have all of the eyes on you and you have that expectation
or when you're kind of like what you guys are doing now, where you're clicking on all cylinders
and you're still doing your thing, but you don't have everyone saying like these are the
favorites right now.
Yeah, I mean, you know, you're talking to a underdog, you know, and I feel like having that underdog mentality,
especially with like, you know, people saying, Hey, look, you know,
these guys can't be, you know, guys above 500. I mean, if you look at
the statistic, like the guys that we played against, we were literally
getting their best shot. They've lost the week before. So it's not
like, Oh, you know, we won this week
and they won, you know, the same week.
And then now we're going head to head.
And it's gonna be a battle of the clash.
It's like we're really getting their best ball
when we expect something completely different.
You know, it's like, I just hate the narrative
that we can't be above a 500 teams.
Cause that's not the case.
Like I said, when Philly lost that first game against the Jess, who did we have, who did
they have to play next?
It was us.
You know, same thing with the chiefs, they lost against Denver, who they have to play
in Germany, us.
So, I mean, all these, you know, different analytics and everything like that.
I mean, the analytics is just, yeah, it takes
people to the whole level of thinking, which is totally fine, but in reality, like, it
is. No, it's not. Stop thinking so much. I'm with you. Yeah, exactly. Well, the reason
I'm asking is because Tyree killed today was on a soccer show. And he said on the soccer
show that the dolphins are a better team than the chiefs team that he was on a soccer show and he said on the soccer show that the dolphins are a
better team than the chiefs team that he was on when he won the Super Bowl. And I'm kind
of wondering how you react to something like that because that's quite a statement.
Yeah, no, that's quite a statement. I mean, to say that, I mean, he knows that team,
you know, and I can speak for so do you. I know, and I know that team too, and I know that,
you know, have we done the appropriate thing
in the Super Bowl, we would have been Super Bowl champs.
And that team was really good.
So I know what it takes to be a good team
and so does Reacon, and we're both playing
unbelievable ball right now.
And yeah, to for him to say that statement Stamen obviously he knows there's something special,
just like I know there's something special about this team.
Right, it wasn't your fault in that Super Bowl.
I can tell you that much.
Now, like this team is better than the Niners team
that made it to the Super Bowl.
I feel like we're, we're, we're hitting on all cylinders
right now. We're hitting our peak, especially with, you know,
with the defense, defense defense doing unbelievable
job right now. They're clicking, they're doing everything they possibly can. And that defense
that I have when I was on the night, I was was pretty damn good too. So yeah, were you laughing,
put us there, were you laughing when Tim Boyle thought he could throw the ball 55 yards?
I mean, what happened? Honestly, I was like, okay, here we go. He's just I
know they're going to just chuck it up and he took that thing
up. And I'm like, okay, Javon just got the you have the
interception. All right. Well, oh snap, here you go, open
field. It's just like, to my to my to me, I'm like, damn, this
is like a perfect like part return like, Javon, he can do great
things as a punt return,
or two if you put them back there.
So I wasn't shocked, but then I was also shocked
the fact that we ended up scoring right before half.
I was like, oh, man, I might, I keep telling Javon,
I might have been the best play I've ever witnessed
in person.
There's one other play though, and that's the one
with with Kittle against the Saints.
It was fourth and it was like fourth and whatever. And I was on field for that one. I'm like, okay,
let's do. You got some, you got some shit in his neck. But you knew Javon because he's
returned kicks and he's played wide receiver. Like you knew he was going for seven there, right?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. He had the blocks. He had to set up and he went down
inside line. I'm like, yeah, this guy's taking it to the house
What was going on that second touchdown? What were you thinking like what were you?
Will you will you try not to score? Will you just trying to kill some clock? Was there fantasy things going on?
What happened? Yeah, now I was I was trying to kill some clock and then I also started thinking about fantasy points
I'm like all right these guys these guys are gonna kill me if I just if I just take a knee right here
Let me just go ahead and score. I just wanted to boost a couple of fantasy points.
That's all.
Okay.
Well, thank you.
I have you.
Hey, you're welcome.
Is the jet fan base the most annoying fan base?
Nah, I wouldn't say that most annoying fan base simply because I mean,
they, you know, if you're a jet fan and you're going through, you know, hard times,
they're still, they're still going strong.
I mean, they almost remind me of the Eagles, but less, less crunchy, I guess.
Right.
Like the Eagles fan base is, yeah, I mean, my wife went to the game and she got a rental car and they said, you know, her rental car was keyed up.
I guess somebody's caught wind that she was, she was a dolphin's fan or something because she had like most
her you know a tie on or whatever she makes like custom most of pieces so yes I guess
she stepped out of her her my mother-in-law and next thing you know after the game they came back and
no hold the rental car was keyed up okay I will say this though, like jet fans, they could put on that cape of like having a jets
attire on and then, you know, next thing you know, they got it.
They're going to another game in MetLife and they're rocking, rocking the Giants.
I mean, it's two different capes you can put on.
They're repping on all New York style games.
You love beating that, they do, especially in their place.
I did, I did. I did, I definitely did. I'm not going to be a little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit Mike that's all because he's he's over there just grimacing right now. He's like kind of down right now
hurts
hurts
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but you don't feel bad for us man. I hate that I like Raheem like I hate that I like it
So do I actually
You guys are awesome. Hey, hey as long as I got gill with me we good, man. That's right. Hey, right? What happened with two guys
He never went to your house on Halloween to give out candy like he wasn't there. I know you said I know you said that when
How's it for you and he never did
Yeah, man, see the thing with you know still is just he big time you man. He don't want to be my friend
I get that. He doesn't want to hang out. He don't want to hang out.
The clubhouse. He don't want to hang out.
Of course, his clothes for the last nine months.
You know that clubhouse is open though.
We can go grab some drinks out on a Friday night.
This Friday, yeah. Let's go.
I'm ready.
You got a Washington. Raheem with him. It's just can you come on my podcast? This Friday in
With him it's just can you come on my podcast? No one my podcast then he goes to you
Yeah, right
Wait
To be I was gonna get to recon but okay
Who is he at who is he bothered you about?
Not he hasn't bothered me about anybody. I just give it time. I'm busting. I'm busting this bubble
What are you going to wash he did? I think we leave Saturday. All right Friday night club house
Friday night club house, you know, I like to, I like to sip on some, some cab. So, you know, I'm gonna take a take the ease off and relax and get ready for the game.
And sip some nice cab. If you want to join me, you're more than welcome to go.
Okay. Well, I'm gonna call you after this and we're gonna set it up. Okay. All right. Sound like a plan. You'll be drinking alone.
Yeah. I know. Right. I'm gonna be. I'm? I'm going to be I'll be drinking gin and tonics. Yeah, I'm going to be like that lonely girl at the bar
And he's going to treat me like that. Like I'm waiting for my date and he just goes me. No, that's not that's not happening
We're getting stood up. I hate to tell you what is your strategy at the when you pick up your kids at school
We'll let you go on this note you guys are both
And I'm talking to you when I say both you and Billy
What is your strategy when you're picking up the kids at school? Do you have a strategy?
Because Mikey A maintains it's one of the worst things in his life picking up the kids from school.
I mean, it's not so bad. Honestly, it's, it's okay. When, so there's a sign in and sign out sheet,
right? You have to do that before you get the kids, before you pick them up. Like that's that's if you do that before it makes the process a whole lot easier.
But if you do it after you get the kids, you pick the kids up, you're sitting there waiting, you waiting for the other parents to sign in the books and then it's just a big cluster.
So you want to be as efficient as you possibly can, even even them off. Dropping them off, just take them straight to class
and then you sign out.
So that's the best tool that I could possibly give,
a father that has two kids in the same school.
Rahim, it's not our efficiency.
It's everybody else's that you get caught behind.
That's where the problem goes.
See, in our school, there's one line
and it goes all the way down the road. And then you get real close to where you turn into the school. And then the other guy comes from the problem goes. See, in our school, there's one line and it goes all the way down the road.
And then you get real close to where you turn into the school.
And then the other guy comes from the other way.
He thinks he could take a left into it
and then some idiot lets him in.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't see 400 cars behind you?
You think you're the greatest solar board?
He is it. Trust me, I know him.
Yeah, right.
You're like, hey, look, I know Joel
is not the most important kid in this whole class.
All right.
Like, it is a jewel.
Yeah.
It's like, come on.
You can't just cut the line.
Everybody's flowing the same direction.
All right.
Let's just flow the same direction.
Let's keep it stagnant.
Let's keep the flow the flow.
You know what I mean?
I've been here for 45 minutes.
You're going to show up five minutes after dismissal
and think you get your kick first.
No!
No way.
My kids school, like the doors open up at three o'clock.
So you have all the parents just sitting there
at three o'clock ready to, I'm like,
y'all can just hop in your car.
You ain't gotta be the parent
that wants to be the over-achiever all the day, and I'm hop me a car. You ain't got to be the parent that wants to be the over-key for all the day time
Like just relax. We all we all gonna get the our kids relatively close like don't don't worry about it
Just just take a little Susie got to bring out her clock and spiel and it takes an hour and a half to load that thing in the back
And I'm like, come on man. I'm trying to move. Yeah, I tell you what my my middle child Niko
He's I love him to death. That's my boy. He but when it's time to like get things
Speed up the flow of everything. He's the one that wants to take his sweet little time getting in the car
And he wants to he wants to talk to you daddy
We driving in truck. No, we're in the car right now. Let's just we got to get the let's come on
We're gonna there's a whole lot of traffic waiting for us right now. Let's, come on, we gotta get it going. I want
to get out of this traffic now.
What's with all the questions? Get in the car. Yeah, yeah, stop the, stop the questions.
Let's, let's get in the sea. I got a bucket up. Let's ride. Let's do it. He likes to
schmooze a little bit. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah, he likes it. He likes to bask in the ambience
of the, the towel pickup. Oh, man. You know, it starts in the ambience of the the towel pickup
Oh, man, you and it starts when the doors open not before when you were waiting. It starts when the doors open
Yeah, yeah, absolutely
He's just like it's funny because he just sits in his like little circle in his classroom
And as soon as he sees me he's like already grinning. I'm like dude. I already know what time it is
We go we go have we go have a great time getting into the car.
He wants to talk to everybody. He wants to say hi to everybody, everybody.
The people, the raising a monster, you're raising a monster.
A polite child. What a monster.
He's a nice kid though. He's the nicest kid. I know he's so sweet though.
So where do you get that from? Is that from you or from your wife? Oh, schmoozing. Man. Oh, he might
got that from me. I ain't going to. I can see myself at his age. I was doing that too. You
know, you can't complain about it then, man. I can't. I can't. That's why I just I cut him
slack. I do. I have to. I have to cut him him some slack, man Oh, man, you're you're the best for him. We appreciate it leading the league in touchdowns
They play the the commanders coming up this weekend. Keep it rolling man. I'll see you Friday night at the board
Okay, all right. Hey, I'll see you there. You better not stand me up either man. All right, stop shaking your heads
You and Billy enough I mean Jesus
Billy knows built me and Billy had his understanding Mike Mike knows too. That's a problem. Yeah
Why don't you invite Billy right now see if he wants to do this? I care about you Raheem, and I don't want to see you get hurt
You know Billy you want to come to the club now. You live so far from here
You can sweep over at John's house. Yeah, okay
I wouldn't invite you but my house is getting renovated right now.
I'm not my mother's house right now.
Can we have a sleepover in the offseason?
Can we do that? Me, you and Billy.
Hey, I don't know about all that.
That's three-girl men sleeping like that.
You can come home. I don't have a hell of a time now.
No, just a sleepover male.
No, watch a movie get some wine.
No, no. No, I have an idea. I have an idea.
So guys, we could take them up to two chains house to go fishing on his lake.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Okay. I got the fish and pole ready to go. I got like this like portable fold up
fishing pole. Right. I keep it my truck and it's like in like a little storage
container and my truck. Man, I, hey, I'll pull over to the side of the road and go
fishing now. All right. How about this? Okay. of my truck. Man, I, A, I'll pull over to the side of the road and go fishing now.
All right.
How about this?
Okay?
No sleepovers, no nothing.
Me, you and Billy, when the season's over,
because Billy wants to learn how to play golf,
hence the clubs in the background there.
Let's go play golf with Billy.
How about that?
Billy, Billy, don't know what he doing with them things
that they're not sure.
It's a fact.
That's a fact.
Don't worry about me either.
We, we, we on the same plan for you.
Me either. We all, we all, we we, we on the same plan for you. Me either.
Oh, we're there. Hey, we all gonna get, we all gonna get lessons together. Okay, done. Perfect. There'll be like a
three stages out there, man. All right, man, good luck this
weekend. Keep a roll, man. We're out. We're happy for you.
Leave me NFL and touchdowns plus your team. Right now, not the
one seed, but you're flirting with the one seed. And I think
you guys will ultimately get it because the schedule is
somewhat easy the next three or four weeks, but that's me saying it not
Rahim saying it, okay, I know the last game.
Mike doesn't like that one. Mike's not about that one. I know Rahim doesn't like that.
I mean, he didn't say it, I said it.
He didn't want to say it, that it's easy.
Well, he plays the test again.
Yeah, we still got it. We still got to play the test.
Rahim, you're breaking up. You're driving through a tunnel.
Mike, can you hear me Mike?
Good luck to you in Washington, man.
We're happy for you.
All right, Breeze, you got it.
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Let's get to the game.
Championship weekend, what a big weekend.
New Mexico state, they're taking on Liberty.
Liberty is undefeated.
They're minus 10 to the half.
I have Liberty winning the game,
but New Mexico state is going to cover.
Washington taking on Oregon.
Washington undefeatedated already beaten Oregon.
They are getting disrespected here.
Plus nine and a half.
My goodness, they beat them already.
Washington is going to win the game outright by the 10 anyway,
but Washington wins by three points over Oregon.
I'm taking the Huskies.
Texas, they need to impress big 12 championship game.
They're taking on Oklahoma State.
They need to blow them out. They need to impress the committee championship game. They're taking on Oklahoma State. They need to blow them out.
They need to impress the committee and they'll do so.
Texas by 28 points over Oklahoma State.
UNLV plus two and a half taking up Boise State.
Buy it up to three.
I'm taking the running rebels.
UNLV wins the game outright.
They win by four points over Boise State.
Alabama, Georgia, SEC championship game. Alabama is plus five
and a half. I want you to buy it up to six. I don't know why I'm telling you to do that
because I'm going to pick Alabama to win the game outright. And how about this? They're
going to blow them out by 14 points. Florida State against Louisville with their backup
quarterback, ACC championship game. Florida State is minus two and a half. They win. They cover the semifinals
win by ten points Michigan minus 22 and a half taken on Iowa Big 10 championship game. Michigan
minus 22 and a half. They win. They cover. They win 23 to nothing. Speaking of Michigan and Iowa,
the overrunner in the first half for Iowa is a half point. Buy it up to one, take the under. Second half, it's also a half point. Buy it
up to one, take the under. Let's get to the NFL week 13 Colts. Take it on the Titans. Colts
are minus one. It's at Tennessee. I like this Colts team. If the season ends today, they
be in the playoffs. They win here. They cover here, the Colts by four points on the road
over the Tennessee Titans, the Chargers, minus five and a half. They're at New England,
taking on the Patriots, the Chargers. Eventually they have to win one of these games. They're
going to do it here. They're just a better team. Chargers win by ten points over the pass. Lions,
minus four. They're taking on the Saints. The Lions win. They cover lions by 10 points on the road.
Taxants minus three and a half. Take it on the Broncos. Buy it to three points. Take the
taxans. They win. They cover the taxans win by 14 points at home. Rams minus four. Take it on the
Browns. Joe Flacco might start. Need I say more? Rams win. They cover Rams by 10 points at home.
Eagles plus two and a half taken on San Francisco
Eagles are at home buy it up to three
I have the Eagles winning and covering the win the game outright they win at home by four points over San Francisco
Cheves by this six they're at the Packers
They have the chiefs winning and covering the chiefs by 10 points in green bag finally Jaguars at home
Take it on the Bengals.
Jaguars are minus nine.
The Jags win, they cover the Jags by 17 points at home
over the Bengals. Those are the picks everyone. Good luck.
Sims Billy did a segment on his podcast called Signs of Life and Signs of Death.
Wow. Big news, but we know Billy's not paying attention to me.
We're just happy that Billy's here with us on the show today doing the job he's actually
paid to do.
How dare you, sir?
How dare you, sir?
Very nice of him to show up, huh, Sims?
Yeah, very nice of you.
How are you?
Everything good?
Look at Mike Yee is jet suck.
So he now he's on the Michigan bandwagon.
Look at him.
What are they doing to Texas? Huh? They're going to leave Texas out. Yeah, he is jet suck. So he now he's on the Michigan bandwagon. Look at him. Yeah.
Yes.
What do they do into Texas?
Huh?
They're going to leave Texas out.
They're going to be Alabama and leave them out, huh?
I mean, it is crazy.
If there was ever a year, we needed the 12 team playoff.
It's this year, right?
I mean, but yeah, it looks like we got no chance of getting it.
Like, I don't care what happens this weekend.
Georgia should be in no matter, they shouldn't even make Georgia play to have to get it.
Georgia should be it.
You win every game for three years straight, you get in the final four again.
Yeah, but since it's about the body of work, it's this season, this season, they lose to Alabama.
They, what, what, what about the body of work this season?
They're season they're
great to obliterating everybody on their schedule. So the witness Missouri is Missouri
exactly beat Alabama. They deserve to get it. Right. Even though they do make the schedule
the close game they deserve to be in no matter what. Now Billy made a good point there.
Go ahead Billy. I'm sorry. They do make the schedule. They make it like three or four years in advance. Well, like Alan all the SEC schedule is exactly made and like, I don't know how that shakes
out as far as you can make some of your off schedule, like out of conference schedule,
but still like you don't know what they're going to be three to four years out either.
Like don't give me that bullshit. You don't know that.
Thames, you got to be pounding the table. Alabama beats Georgia and Texas beat Alabama.
Texas should be it. There should be pounding the table. I don't believe in that logic.
I don't believe in that logic because Alabama is a different team than they were earlier this year
against Texas, right? You know, my logic is we should have been a team that we were better than
in Oklahoma and we can blow it. that's my logic and now you just
have to wait and see and let you know a bunch of people who I don't know what
they're doing in a room and I don't know if they know football that I'm
rank them that makes sense Chris who's rankin on this year astronauts
physicists what is it this year what have they got on the group Chris we saw
arch was there arch played we saw art was there. Arch played. We saw Arch.
That's awesome, right? Yeah. I know. He's caring. Does he not, I mean,
I don't know what the future holds, right? The other kid that played when when
when Quentin Newer's got here, it hurts a pretty good player. He's got some talent there.
But did Arch Manning not look like Archie Manning to you guys? I don't know. I just
kept seeing his grandfather and the way he ran and through. I saw more of Archie Manning
that I did Peyton or you lie. So, but it was really cool to see. Good for him. Gets
out there. Gets a little experience. He's some athlete. I'll say that. He's a little
faster than I expected. That's for sure.
It's in before we get to the NFL, we must start here. Okay.
Even though we already started, but we must start right here.
The Thanksgiving sims football game in the backyard. We want details. Okay.
Uh, so disappointing this year. It was a small affair this year because I think
as I told you guys a little last week, my family doesn't show up for Thanksgiving until
it's dark.
So it's like, like my sister came in and she's like, what about the game? And I was like,
we already played it. It's dark. Like your kids missed out. I don't know where the
fuck are you? I don't. Thanksgiving is over in like 20 minutes. You just got here. So
it was like me and two kids and my brother and a kid. It wasn't even a good football game this year.
So it was totally lame.
We had laughs, we got outside and ran around in the cold air,
but yeah, it wasn't what I thought it was gonna be.
I was a little disappointed.
I didn't tell you how sounds like a joy on Thanksgiving.
Gee, you're yelling at everyone.
I mean, I didn't yell.
I didn't, I was very nice.
I didn't say one word.
I should have said something.
I was like, I should have been like, hey, we came here. My wife cooking all the food. How about you guys show
the fuck up at some point, you know, but I did not yell. I would have liked to have done
it. PFT with Mike Florino every day. I peaked off football night in America, Sunday night
football. You have the chiefs and the and the packers this week. That's a good game.
The unbuttoned podcast as well. Jordan Love, man, eight touchdowns. Two interceptions last four weeks. Like you start to get it.
It seems like Chris. I definitely, I was scared, right? About a month ago, I was going, I don't know.
I'm not sure how this is going to go. It doesn't look good, right? The offense had training wheels on.
It was like, you know, it's hard to be successful at offense when you're being on this basic. I think they got to a point three or four weeks ago and I kind of hit on this on my podcast
a little bit where they finally realized like, you know, we either got to start unveiling
the offense and he succeeds or he fails and at least we know what we got here.
And Thursday was by far the most diverse and aggressive attack yet. And that's, it makes
them intriguing. Green Bay's got talent. They're young. They got a quarterback who's inexperienced,
but there's talent across the roster on both sides of the ball. And that's where Sunday
night, like, hey, I've got to look at the game. Of course, I'm going to pick the Chiefs
to win. I am, but the game to me is a little bit more, I think, dicey than people think where the chiefs with that
aggressive defense against Watson and Dobbs and Jalen Reed and Muscray, they want to play
mandemat against that crew. They better be careful. And they're the gotten creative on
that side of the ball. So it's good to see Jordan Love definitely looks like he's settling
in, definitely looking like he's got a chance to be the real quarterback in the future the way he's looked the last
three weeks for sure.
It's funny.
The last three or four weeks reminded me like man Aaron left a really good team like
that seems good.
We, I think we hit that on the offseason too.
That's where it's like man, you know, that align they can pass protect.
They got running backs.
They got young tight ends.
They got young talent and receiver. They got young talent all over their defense.
Right?
I mean, Green Bay plays this the right way.
They should be a team that is around and very relevant for the next five or six years.
Chris, do you guys just mentioned Aaron?
Aaron's 21-day practice window is now open and kind of a decision has to be
made. And I've been wondering watching the Jets play. How different they would actually
look if Aaron was there. Is that crazy? No, no, I don't think it's crazy. I don't. I mean,
they'd be better. I don't think it would be like, Oh, it's a top 10 offense and football.
And they're just like a surgical machine.
There's no way, you know, they're not.
But I think what Aaron would do and where it would translate to the record is, yeah, a
little bit more moving in the ball, a little bit more staying on the field, so the defense
doesn't get so worn out every game by being on the field all the time.
And then those ways, you know, maybe you could have won, you know,
two or three more games through the defense and him taking care of the ball. And then,
hey, hopefully he can make a clutch play in a big moment, almost like the Denver Broncos
and what they're doing to the Russell Wilson right now. It's not earth shattering, but
instead of them saving the saving his worst for the big moment right now, he's playing
his best in the big moments and getting them over the hump. So yeah, it would be better, but I don't think we'd be going, man, this offense and,
ooh, are they awesome in big plays though?
It's still be a little bit like, why is an Aaron Roger and the Jets better on offense?
What's going on?
And, you know, I mean, he's real and now, I mean, he sees the writing on the wall.
So now it's like, oh, I don't know if I'm coming back.
I'm not sure I'm going to play.
I'm not sure if we'll die.
You know, because he knows it'd be really hard to look good with this group and the current status
of where they are in the AFC right now.
Is Bill Mellichack doing anyone, any favors by not committing to either one of those quarterbacks?
Is when you go into a game and you're like, you're both going to play at some point,
it feels like he's kind of already taking the air out of Mag Jones and setting him up
for failure.
And then you have Bailey Zappi, who's sitting there and he's like, I just want to be told I'm starting
which doesn't help anyone. So what is the strategy right now with this?
It's a great question. What's the strategy been for the last 24 months in New England?
I mean, I think it's fair to ask all of that. I mean, it's weird to see right now,
Billy. I've never thought Bill Bellichek would do some of the things he is doing as of late.
It's against everything he's ever believed in or thought of as a coach, and I've ever
heard him preach or any of his assistance preach or anything like that.
Yeah.
I mean, you're giving your offense in a team no leader.
You're blaming it on one person, right?
You're right.
You've taken the power and the leadership away from Mac Jones.
And then in my heart of hearts, I don't think they even like Bailey Zappy, but they don't
know where to go. That's a disaster, the fact that they don't have better options. I mean,
they cut the guy twice and they're like, okay, I guess we'll make them a backup. They
don't even want them to be the backup. They don't know what to do. The offense isn't
good. Bella checks filled them with receivers on the outside.
We've talked about all the issues.
It's dysfunctional looking right now.
And I don't know.
I wouldn't blame them for going to believe cunning him.
Maybe he could do some quarterback design run stuff and do something like that.
Mac Jones is not as bad as he's been playing.
He's in a funk and he's around a lot of bad things and he's got to know formula that makes
sense for Mac Jones skill set. And let alone one thing I'll say about Mac Jones, he's
got to improve his throwing motion this off season.
You can improve your motion to throw the ball with more power and zip.
He's a natural enough thrower to do it.
Too many soft balls and layups and, you know, wimpy throws from him that have to change
or he'll be a backup quarterback forever.
That's the one thing I do know.
What do you think the 49ers would look like if Kyle Shanahan got his way from what we believe
was he actually wanted Mac Jones kind of had to take Tray Lance because if you get the
idea, okay, he gets Mac Jones, the guy he wants, right?
Then he probably doesn't gamble on Brock Pertie at the end because he gets the quarterback that he wants. So he may use that pick for something else. So what would
the 49ers look like if Mac Jones was there?
I think a lot like they do with Brock Pertie, right? I don't think it would be a whole
lot. Is that kind of guy? That's why they like, you know, Brock Pertie's Mac Jones Kirk
cousins, right? That's why they like him. Shennahann has all the answers.
He just wants somebody that can go down
and write them on the test on the field.
That's what he's looking for.
And Billy, Shennahann makes all the calls out there.
So nobody forced his hand.
In my heart of hearts, I believe public pressure,
people in this organization,
everything pressured them to a corner
of where he felt like the deck is stacked against
Mac Jones before he even got here.
And I think a lot of things played into that, whether it was the yelling of the fan base,
the yelling of the Justin Fields and Tray Lance fan base, the media memes, all of that,
let alone, I know in Kyle's mind too, a lot of his coaches have left and gone somewhere where I think he thought,
hey, maybe if I get a trade lance, I can add some new wrinkles to my offense and not everybody
build a copy and do all that.
I think all those went into factoring that decision in.
But ultimately, no, I think if they got Mac Jones, I've kind of said, you know, for a
while, like Mac Jones, I think they might go to the Super Bowl instead of Jimmy Garoppolo. The year the Rams went in one, right? I think it's a lot like Brock Purti,
a lot of really good stuff, system play every now and there, a wow talent play, but he
would fit that style of play. That's the formula he needs, Billy. That's what he needs.
Chris, it seems like when we're discussing, I'm not saying you specifically, but when we
discuss who's the best quarterback in the NFL, the name Jalen Hertz rarely comes up.
Why?
Like to me, he might be the best player in the NFL.
Like you can, you can honestly say that you watch the game the other day and you think
he's the best player.
You think he was the best quarterback in the field in that game?
No, I thought Josh Allen was, I thought Josh Allen was great, but Jalen Hertz is one
of a lot of football games and Bindy was super bowl and he scores a lot of touchdowns.
It doesn't seem like he gets a lot of the touchdowns are so overrated everybody in football
It's going to push that's how I told you it's a bullshit. I don't care about his rushing touchdowns
They're like a mute point Tom Brady was the best quarterback sneak quarterback before that like I told you
He can squat 70 pounds. It doesn't really matter, right when you got a right team in the offense there, right?
He's afforded luxuries that other quarterbacks aren't.
Let Stu Gotts.
If Josh Allen had two turnovers and 50 yards passing
in the first half of the game last week,
they would have been down 30 to seven, right?
Right, bro.
Jaylen Hertz can just sit back and kind of let the game
come to him.
They're down 17 to seven.
What do they do? They
run the ball all the way down the field. And then he picks the run and he throws to a wide open
AJ Brown. I'm sorry. Whoop. He's doing some of that stuff. I mean, he's he's real good. But when
people start to say MVP, I just I don't see it that way at all. Like, at all, the week before that, the cheapskain, he's got a 78 quarterback rating.
I mean, he was like, below 50% throwing and had no yards, like the whole game until the end.
And listen, he's clutch, I give him a bet.
But that's where I don't see it.
Guys, there's a good chance this weekend.
He'll have as many turnovers as Josh Allen on the year
Will ESPN do a sports center sports center special on his turnovers this week?
But he does that no, but they did one for Josh Allen. Why I don't know because they don't want to
Put the the facts out there. There's a love affair with Jalen
Jalen hurts that I don't understand. He's
an awesome human being. He's handsome as hell. His story is cool as hell, right? But best
quarterback and football and MVP, negative ghost rider. Those are bad qualifiers too. I mean,
I love your dad, okay? I mean, you're yelling at me. I love your dad, okay? You're screaming
at me. He's like, Jaylen hurts. It's all like, all I get all week, it's all like,
get, it's all I see.
And I want to go, and he's on a team
that allows and sets him up for the most success
that any quarterback and football, like I told you.
Right.
And that's where people got to look at it.
And I'm not trying to like take anything from him.
He's ice in the veins.
He's better in the pocket making throws this year
than he was last year.
But there's nothing he does better than Josh Allen.
At some point, again, Josh Allen left the field twice
the other day and his team was winning
and then he never gets the ball back. He's afforded luxuries. Again, the Super Bowl. He was on the best team and
up by 10 and a half and he had a monumental club, right? But he still gets the clutch call.
Everybody still says he's clutch because he threw for more yards than people thought he
would in the game, right? That is where I just don't buy that. And you know, so that's
where it's not fair to me. And you know, so that's where it's
not fair to me. And that way, what does he do better than Josh Allen? There's nothing.
There's nothing. Josh Allen in the homes are better runners than Jalen Hertz, but they
have to run Jalen Hertz because he doesn't throw it like them. So they have to use that
more. So I have respect for that, but I just get sick of hearing that storyline all the
time. And I'm sick of the quarterback on the best team gets the MVP.
I'm sick of that shit.
Chris, do we have to accept that Trevor Lawrence is a very good quarterback, never going
to be a great quarterback, but good enough to win a Super Bowl.
Is that fair?
No.
Well, yeah, I think he can be a great quarterback.
I think he's brutal line great right now.
He was great.
CJ Straub was phenomenal in that game.
That game was a great quarterback duel though.
Trevor Lawrence was amazing as well.
Yes.
Right. It wasn't maybe scrambling and buying time.
It was like quick decisions thrown big time throws
into really tight windows.
I did a whole thing on my pod today about it
because that to me might have been
one of the best quarterback tools of the year
and it's got something.
But no, Trevor Lawrence is, he can be a superstar
and I think he's borderline already as a superstar. He's getting close.
What do the Bears do with Justin Fields after this season? They're going to have two of the
top four picks in the draft so people know. So what do they do with Fields here?
It's a tough decision. It really is because there's some things I really like about Fields.
I mean, as we know, his running is elite. He has moments of throwing the ball really well.
But like the other night, he missed plays.
There was throws there to be had, right?
And he didn't throw it, didn't see it, whatever.
I think they're gonna move on.
I think they're gonna move on.
That would just be where my heart is.
And honestly, if you made me choose,
I'd probably say I'd move on too.
But that's not an easy decision, that's not.
And the Bears, I don't know what's gonna happen
with the head coach, but that head coach leads.
People are gonna want that job, not only because
of the draft fix, but the Bears are set up,
like I talked about with Green Bay,
the old line is young and good.
The whole commets are good tight end.
DJ Mooren Mooney
have real juice on the outside.
They got some good people up front in the
second, up front on defense and in the
in the back seven. So the bears are one of those
team that are young and I'd say watch out for
in years to come.
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He is Chris Sims.
We love him.
We are disappointed, man.
I thought the Thanksgiving game would bear more fruit.
It did not.
I'm disappointed too.
I brought my fire.
I can tell you there was only five of us out there,
but I brought the fire.
I mean, I promise you.
Did you lose?
It sounds like you lost.
Sounds like you're team lost.
You know what happened?
Like I think my brother called it a tie.
He was like, try to be nice.
And I want to say, what?
They scored and he was like, all right, let's go in.
I was like, what?
We said first to five, right?
Like, come on, like what do we do in here?
Tell your brother enough.
I mean, the kids don't give a shit.
They want to win or they want to lose.
Exactly.
This is Jersey.
It's like you, the winner you lose.
That's the way it is.
And that's what we were.
We were in Jersey. Disappointing by my brother winner you lose. That's the way it is. And that's what we were. We were in Jersey disappointing by my brother, Matthew.
Very disappointed.
All right.
Since next week, we're going to talk about coaches.
I'm going to give you a list of coaches.
You tell people they're going to be in their current job next year when the season starts.
Okay. We're going to be next year.
All right. Sounds good.
Let's say it.
How is friends giving Austin?
Friends giving. Wow.
So for me, it was just like virtual because my mom is in Colorado,
and my little brothers in Wyoming.
And so we got on the phone for a couple hours
and we're just chilling together
and just catching up on stuff that we're looking forward to.
Why it actually was player of the week,
defensive player of the week.
And the, I forgot what the conference name is,
but he had a sick pick six
that I was so proud of him.
And so we were just catching up on everything.
He that was his last game.
And yeah, now it's going to his bowl game and then you'll probably come catch some of my games.
So it was good to catch up with the fam because we don't get always get that that time together since both and kind of the same football schedule.
And he's got school and everything.
Tell me and watch that dreadful jet stop in this game on Friday.
Please tell me you didn't watch that thing.
No, I did not watch that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's there's some games that excite me that one was not on the list. Really?
Lost it. I'm watching seriously. Think of crazy. The game it is that you're playing, right?
Okay. With a culture in the playoffs right now, the Falcons are in the playoffs right now.
Your team is not in the playoffs right now. The Eagles are the best team in the playoffs right now, the Falcons are in the playoffs right now. Your team is not in the playoffs right now.
The Eagles are the best even the NFL.
They lost the Zach Wilson. What a crazy game, man.
It's, it's absolutely wild, man.
And I think that's why it has the popularity that it has because it's, it's,
it's predictable, but it's also amazing at the same time because unpredictable things
can happen. And you know, like you have tendencies and things like that,
but it's not uncommon for like crazy stuff to happen. And you know, like you have tendencies and things like that, but it's not uncommon for like crazy stuff to happen. Whereas like an upset, you know, the fans
are going to make it up or about it and people are going to comment on it. But it's like,
yeah, that happens. This is the NFL. Any given Sunday, anyone can win. You got to show
up every single weekend. You know, we're seeing that with our team where, you know, we got
to make sure we're getting back to the expectation that we're supposed to be playing at.
And so yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't surprise me when crazy stuff happens in that. If that's
what makes it so amazing and so competitive.
I am asking this strictly out of curiosity. I'm not trying to put you in a bad spot. I promise
you. Okay. But I know you feel like now you're put it be out of the.
Well, I'm gonna do it.
Listen, I don't know, however you want or don't answer. Okay. But I've always wondered what
it's like when you're in the middle of a season
and your coach is, there's rumors swirling around your coach
in the future of your head coach.
Does he talk about that stuff with you?
Is it, is it, do you guys talk about it amongst yourselves?
How does that work?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's something, it's really important actually
because we have to stay together in the locker room, right?
Like the last thing we want is, you know, this big, you know,
divide of pointing fingers and it's this fall, it's your fall.
And so, but I think Coach has actually done a really good job
of is making sure that we're transparent about it.
Like, hey, this is what the media is going to come and do.
Like, we see it out there.
Right. It's, it's impossible not to have much.
Our lives are covered of, you know, the allegations of this.
Or this person
needs to do this.
And for us, we have to stay in a big group where it's like, Hey, we know what we have to
do as an organization internally because it's different when you're in it than from the
emotional side outside of it.
Like we can't get emotional.
Like, yes, the game is emotional, but when we come out and work, we got to make sure
that we're staying flat.
We're going forward because the thing that if it does happen and we start point fingers, then it gets really ugly. And
then now we're not going to talk about football anymore. We're talking about drama.
And we're not trying to turn this into a drama, you know, TV show and MTV back in the day.
You know, this is, this is, this is the NFL. And we got to go out there. We have a job
to do. And so I think coach has done a good job of saying like, yeah, this is out there,
but guess what? We all have to take I think it was perfect.
One of our linebackers coach said this.
He's like, we have to take the appropriate amount of accountability for what's going on.
And, you know, I think he's done a great job of that.
And I said in the past.
And then also, you know, putting that back on ourselves, like we got to make sure we're accountable
for our own play and really making the message about staying together and making sure we're
working together as a team and not related to all this crowd noise about who's playing well, who's not what's
going on.
Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
We still have to go out there and play and that doesn't matter to us.
So, yeah, it's it's a sport.
So he will actually have that discussion with with you guys as a team or the captains or
something like that.
Yeah, yeah, he'll bring it up.
And we're not we're not we're not shying away from it.
It's it's the reality of, of sports, you know,
you're going to get scrutinized.
You're going to get, you know, this, you know, whatever,
whatever's going on, if you're doing, doing really well,
you're going to get the high praise.
If things aren't going to, the plan, then guess what?
People are going to be like, this is what's wrong.
This is what's wrong.
And, you know, we've been around this.
We're, we're old enough, I'm mature enough to understand that.
And it doesn't always, like when you're in it,
like I said, it doesn't always mean anything.
It's just what the noise is.
And you have to block out the noise.
I remember Kobe talked about it one time.
He came and talked to us.
And he said, you know, when a lion's hunting, you know,
like when you're just looking through,
like you gotta look through the grass to see the gazelle.
Like you look through, like the grass is all this noise.
And like you got flies around your eyes.
You ain't worried about any of that stuff.
It doesn't matter where you're looking at, you're looking at the
pride, which is winning on Sunday for us.
Like that's all we're focused about.
So there's trees and all this grass popping up, all these weeds in the,
in the way of us.
Like, it was, I mean, you just look through, right through it.
Do you get odd by anybody now to like musicians, actors for you,
business people?
Does anybody get you like, wow, I'm the great of Warren Buffett was the guy Warren Buffett
Man, I think I just have a general's respect for people that have
That have really continued to grow it doesn't matter what field they're in but have continued to push to a point where now
They make an influence on other people's lives like that really gets me going
And that's what I look for too.
And that's what I look up to.
You know, that's the concept when people ask me,
they're like, hey, is there people that you look up to?
Not necessarily, but I look up to that concept
that people that have been able to grow in their career
to a point where they were able to impact
the people around them and have success
in what they were doing at the same time.
And I think that's so special because I think
that's where I find my fulfillment.
Like that's where I want to be in my life. I want to push towards where I was able
to have success, but then also impact positively the people around me and leave a legacy through
that. And I think that's so special. And so I look up to a lot of people and it's a lot
of like even like people like yourselves that you guys are making an impact, like having
success and continuing like you know, with the media side of it, where it's like like
like I want to be like able to do that one day. And that's what I'm pushing
for. And, um, man, so I look up to that concept more. So then an individual that's like, wow,
like all those people wowed me. I can't believe Austin Eckler looks up to us. Like, don't
sit. Don't sit. Don't pull that thread. Don't pull that thread. I look up to the concept.
I'm waiting for you. That you you live by and then put out there.
Well, how does this one work?
So when the owners, if indeed your coach does get fired after the season, and the owners
are looking for a new coach, do you expect the owners as a as a veteran, as a team captain,
as one of the best players on the team?
Should the owners consult the players under the next head coach is going to be?
No, that's Poverprar pay our pay grade. Really?
The big Bovar pay grade. I think you guys should have some say. I think guys like you and
Keenan Allen should have some Sam Sirius Austin. Like, you guys know who you want to play for.
So I guess I haven't been like, I've been around. I haven't been around long enough to
have that type of influence in that organization, right? Where it's like, you have ownership in them, right?
Where it's like, and it's different than like the football side
where I'm part of the team.
I think it's more of a decision that they have to make
as far as looking at the business and the culture
that they're trying to establish.
And I think there's just more that goes into it
that I'm going to be putting into it.
Like the metrics that they use
might be a lot different than what I use.
And so I don't know, even that goes as far as like the draft. So your brother
was the mountain west defensive player of the week as you pointed out. So like, yeah.
Yeah. So like, do you come draft time? You maybe go around, maybe sneak some tape in
there, maybe drop some hints. And I hear about this white eckler out there.
Yeah. For sure. I mean, this is, I think this is, now this is the second time he's been, you know, defensive
player of the week.
So I mean, he's, he's been doing really well, man.
He's flying around super athletic, like just same at work ethic as me.
And so he's only junior right now.
I think he's going to take his last, he's guys like the COVID extra COVID year.
So I think he's going to go back for that and kind of write, really try to give him.
So if established as one of the solid, um, safe uses in college football and then probably
take that leap and come over to the, uh, the professional side.
Do you guys fight often you and your brother?
No. So we're seven years apart.
And so it wasn't like we were growing up.
It wasn't really much of a fight like because I was just so much more developed and older
than him. And so it was like, basically, I just beat up on him.
Um, just that brotherly love, uh, like we, we play like so I was like, basically, I just beat up on him. Um, just that brotherly love,
like we play like football and I like, be on like my knees and I'd run on my knees and then just
like smoke him and then he'd, you never get by me and he would stiff arm him and, you know,
things like that back, you know, brother stuff back in the day. And so now it's kind of turned into
more of like a, I feel like he just like kind of really looks up to like the example that I'm setting.
And I really just kind of continue to give him nuggets to continue to live by and continue
to just grow him. It's really his mentality because he's going to have to pay his own
path, but I can help him give him nuggets to live by some principles that will help him,
you know, continue to progress.
You've got to New England this week. I mean, you know, we do. Yeah. Yeah. We do.
You press somebody up there while you're there, you know, oh, stop. This guy is guy going back to the bell attack thing. Look, I'm looking
through the grass now. I'm looking right through the grass. Eyes on the prize. You got
a reverse. Who needs to impress who right now? Okay. You got a reverse. It's a fair point.
I'm not certain players want to play for that type of coach anymore. It's why Austin should
have some say. I mean, that's why that's what I'm talking about, man.
Listen, I have an idea for you, okay? I know you said you don't want to coach, right?
But I'm thinking, I know you said it. You'd rather do the media stuff, okay? And I understand
why. But college coaching is a great gig. So here's what I'm thinking. Oh boy, you go
coach a college somewhere because any college would hire you, Austin, Eccler, you bomb for two seasons, they fire you and
you walk away with 50 million guaranteed. Wow. I mean, I mean, obviously you don't want
to bomb because then it ruins kind of the reputation, but the 50 million, like there's,
that's a lot of, as you know, as you know, there's a lot of ways to make money in this world,
you know, and look, I've been playing the NFL for a while now.
So I've established, you know, some type of, of, you know, base of, of, you know, funding.
And so for me, the reputation would be more than the 50 million, my opinion.
All right.
50 million is really cool though.
50 million is really cool.
It's not that if you're broke, but if you're not broke, then
it's not as cool.
And the reputation in my opinion is even better.
I'll listen to your four and seven.
But here's the crazy thing about this year in the NFL, the teams in the playoff right
now are six and five.
Like you still have a shot Austin.
Oh, yeah.
Look, you're not out until you're out, man.
And you know, Jacksonville was four and seven last year and they ended up beating us
in the first round of playoffs.
Yeah.
Looking through the grass, man, remember what Kobe said?
Looking through all the distraction eyes on the prize.
You know, like beat New England, get the street going. We got one at a time.
All right. Don't lose to the Patriots, man.
I don't want to talk to you after you lose to the Patriots.
I mean, the Ravens is one thing, not the Patriots.
All right. All right. Look.
I'm not trying. I'm not trying to lose, dammit.
We know.
We know.
We know you're not, man.
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Well, good luck this week.
Up in Foxboro.
And that's a long trip.
Austin.
Jesus Christ.
I'm sorry.
It is.
It's what I signed up for.
It's all good.
Anything you want to promote on the way out, sir.
Yeah.
If you guys want to show up to Bingo Night coming up on Friday here.
What?
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by me and I have some other sign stuff that they're giving away. If you win that, so good luck
if you join up for that Austin, good luck to you this week. I feel 10 and seven. I do.
I feel a run coming. I feel you guys go with 10 and seven. I feel you guys making it a nice
little run in the playoffs about that. Let's do it. Let's do it, man. I'm feeling
yeah. All right. We'll see boys next week. Hey, Gordon. Hey, how are you? What are you
eating? I'm at mama Grocks and she's got five refrigerators
and freezers, so I'm very fortunate to have a lot of different options. Would you go
aisle three, fridge four would you get? Exactly. I went fridge one, aisle two, and left
over meatloaf with mashed potatoes. We're taping this at 11 in the morning, a little bit
early for meatloaf and mashed potatoes, no? Gord Gordy's been up since like 530 dude hit the gym probably twice
already, so over, you know? He's sober, right? How sobriety going Gord? You know what's awful
about this whole thing? The whole purpose was to feel better, right? And to be more focused.
Four days ago during my workout, I blew my back out. So now I'm actually, I feel worse. I'm
in more pain. And I just, you know, it just sucks because I would have felt better if
I was hungover party and all the time. So now I have a blown out back and it's four days
and it hasn't calmed down yet.
All right. Are we ready for this week's games, guys? Billy, can we throw in a bonus game?
Mikey, can we throw in a bonus game? Can we do the over under the team total for Iowa and the first half? Sure.
I'll pick you under whatever is. Oh, well, it's, it's half a point.
Wait, what exactly? Iowa team total over under, okay? And their game against Michigan, big 10
championship game. In the first half, the over under is half a point in the second half. The
over under is half a point. Okay, fuck you're going first. You're taking the under. I
will first hand draw the worst offense I've ever seen in my life. So yeah, it's the
half point over under. Okay. So let's go. Let's go. Let's go to Carl. Carl, are you
taking here? I'm going to take the over for now. All right. Hey, uh, Gord, I just can't like their defense has to get a turnover or something like inside
the 30 to be able to kick a field goal. Like I have to think there's going to be more than
a point, half a point. I'm going over first.
First half. This is first half. All right. So Gord has the over. Carl has the over. K
fuck has the other share bear. Who you an Iowa first half. Have point over under how do we not use this all this throw in some money and like make
this like our our first investment together.
Wow.
We not just the team.
And we all should bet it and take the over honestly.
Like how do we not do it?
You know, get a little bankroll together.
All right.
So let's do it.
Let's do it on this game.
You want to take the over?
Let's all think the over.
Come on guys. A thousand bucks each. Okay. Get a bankroll. Let's do it on this game. You want to take the over? Let's all think the over. Come on guys, a thousand bucks East.
Okay. Alright, I'm gonna get a bank roll. Let's get a bank roll.
All right, done. But I like the end. Thank you. I mean, that's the problem.
That's really the line to you. Yeah, it's really the line. Yes.
All right, let's get to the, let's get to the games this week.
We have dolphins at commanders. The commanders are
plus nine and a half the
commanders. They're at home
taking on the dolphins.
K fucking going to you first.
You take it.
Oh God, I don't like this at all.
Um, give me the commanders plus
nine and a half.
Carl Douglas, you're making
weird. I don't know what you're
doing over there. You're cheering.
You're excited about this game.
Go ahead commanders are my or
plus nine and a half at home taking
on the dolphins.
The one thing I have learned all year is you don't take the, you give up, you take
the points when they're at home and dog. I've gone against it all year and I've gotten
my ass kicked all year. I'm taking the commanders and the points. This is a trap being put it off with the trap game. Let's go to Gore. Gore, who you taking?
I, you know what?
It does feel like a trap game.
But the commander's defense is terrible.
And now they've been giving everyone away.
And Miami's offense is insane.
I'm going, I'm going Miami.
I think they cover nine and a half.
She ever who you taking?
I'm gonna go to the dolphins.
All right, let's go to the next game.
Carl Douglas, I'm going to you first here.
Broncos, that Texans, Texans are reminded
of three to half.
Who you taking here, Carl?
I think the Texans are gonna win,
but I think the Broncos are gonna cover.
So I'm gonna take the Broncos and the points,
but I Texans won a close one.
Sheerber, who you taking?
I mean, there might be one guy who's the best in NFL, but there think since one of course one, share bear who you taken. I mean, there might be one
guy who's the best in NFL, but there's one guy in that on that field that's, you know, the best
Super Bowl quarterback. So I'm going to Russell Wilson. Hmm. I like that. Right. He's done it. He's
done it in Super Bowl for the space needle. Yep. Yeah. And he's very good time zone training when it
comes like flying takes you calisthenics on the plane. So I'm gonna go rustle Wilson.
Who you taking here,
Gord Texans minus three and a half,
they're taking on the broadcast.
Denver's hot right now.
I'm just rolling with the hot wheel.
Let's go to K phone.
K phone, can you take it here?
I'm gonna take fucking Houston here.
All right.
Taking the text along.
I get to curse.
I mean, yeah, it's just, you know.
All right, K fucking,
but it's the same with you for the next game here.
Cardinals go in the Pittsburgh.
They're taking on the Steelers Steelers or minus five and a half.
Who you take it?
The Steelers are sneaky this year, man.
I, uh, what do they like six, seven and three or six and something like that?
Yeah, six and, yeah, you're playing good at home.
I'm going to take the Steelers here.
Let's go to Gore, Gore.
Who you taking your Steelers minus five and a half at home?
They're taking on the Arizona Cardinals, Cardinals and Tyler Murray. I'm going to go with go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go I like it. Like I you think it here. Let's go to Carl Carl. Who you take it here? Hey, man, the stealers only average
like 16 points of game. Yeah, I'm going to take the Arizona and the points. They don't
score enough to cover five and a half points. I don't care. There you go. I know, but that's
the, you know, that's the magic of Mike Tomman. You think they don't score enough? I'm all
sudden they win by seven points. And that's what they do.
All right, let's go to a share bear, share bear.
Who you dig it?
You know, God, I don't know.
I don't know guys, honestly, it's a tough one.
I had a bite of go play Mary and golf course a couple of weeks ago.
You know what?
I'm a little Pittsburgh.
I'm a little Pittsburgh.
I don't know what I happen to have, but I got to buy there a day when the weather's good.
You know, Arizona is a love Arizona, but you know, you know, I'm just got still.
Let's go.
It's a whisper.
The big game of the weekend, guys, 49ers at Eagles.
It is odd that the Eagles have lost once this year on getting points at home, but they
are plus three.
The Philadelphia Eagles, Gord first, Gord who you're taking here.
That is a tough west to East Coast travel and getting points. I have to go with the Eagles, Gord first, Gord who you taking here. That is a tough west to East Coast travel.
And getting points, I have to go with the Eagles at home.
Three is, I feel like three is way too many,
but it feels like a trap, but traveling like that
is so tough on the body.
There's no way.
You know, I don't think you would discover it.
I don't think they cover that.
Eagles straight up.
All right, Eagles stretch.
Eagles money line.
I'm with you, Gord.
Eagles get in the game out right.
Eagles money line. All right, Carl, who. Eagle's going to win the game out. Eagle's money line.
All right.
Carl, who are you taking here?
I'm taking the eagle.
All right.
Share bear. Who are you going with here?
I agree.
And these easy times don't travel in
going west. It's tough to go east.
And hell, it's even tough to go
from just Miami to four buyers in the
car ride after, you know, a long night.
So I'm going to, I'm going to I'm going to do.
Okay, fuck you need to pick this game 49ers at Eagles Eagles plus three.
And everyone takes the Eagles and you know what? I'm taking the 49ers here.
There you go.
The better team the Eagles got the refs on their side. Not this week.
No, no help from the refs this week. Niners are getting it done.
Chiefs app Packers Packers plus six Packers plus six Jordan loves starting to play really well.
The chiefs got it together in the second half against the Raiders last week.
We'll start with K funk here.
K funk, will you take it?
Um, you know, I always say I don't go against the halls, but I do think, yeah, the
Packers are great.
I'm going to roll with them with the points.
Yep, beat the Lions.
Let's go to Carl here.
Carl, who you taking?
I don't want to be like K Funk, but I'm taking the pack than the points to.
I want to be the, but I can't, but he's bright this time.
All right.
Uh, share bear.
Who you taking here?
I'm going with them to roll back, taking the packers.
Uh, Gord.
I just have to go opposite.
Chairs, Kelsey's, you know, good buddy of mine too.
So get him on the pop bro.
Him and Tate.
He has his own.
Yeah, he does.
He does have his own.
Two big time.
Two big time these days, you know.
I'm telling you, if you ask him to come on and tell him it's with me, he'll come on.
Just do.
Well, we can't even get Mojo on.
So I don't know about that.
I want to bring Gord to Tahoe next year.
Gord, you want to come? Tahoe? Yeah, absolutely. Well, you're coming to Grand Beach. So I'm going know about that. That's good boys. I want to bring Gord to Tahoe next year. Gord, you want to come Tahoe?
Golf tour?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, you're coming to Grand Beach, so I'm going to be there tonight.
You're inviting me to Tahoe.
I'm inviting you to Lake Tahoe, correct?
Yes.
All right, before we get out of here, and we'll let you guys promote whenever you need
to promote Gord, are you actually showing us the five ridges?
Or what do we do in here?
Oh, yeah, let's do that.
And why am I walking over there?
You know, New Year's resolutions around the corner,
head up grognfitinets.com, get your fitness equipment,
make sure you're staying fit and lean and mean,
go into the new year.
All right, he is taking us to the Bronx House.
This is very exciting.
All right, here we go.
So this is fridge one.
So that's in the kitchen, correct?
Yeah, these are all meals from the last few days. Freezer one. Oh my
good. Thanks for back right there. Here's another refrigerator right there. That's just a smaller
one. Okay, that doesn't count. That was five does it or does? I counted. Down the wine
cooler, the wine cooler. All right, here, this is where it gets nice. Oh, wow. It's like
what's the blue tape, the painter tape? We got to hold the clothes.
That's that room called. What's that room called?
This is called the, it's a laundry room.
There you go.
Lodge a room. Okay, bet.
Your laundry room doesn't have your laundry room doesn't have two
fridges in a car.
Oh, man.
It's gonna stand up.
Freezer.
So these are all.
I got the cabinet.
The cookies and stuff for Christmas are already being made.
Oh, those are wine rolls. Yeah. You have banana breads, zucchini bread. There's a cake right here.
Cake. Can you see? Yeah, so we have four fridges so far. That's it. And then just that one.
Carl, promote the law firm on the way out. This is one of the great attorneys that we have in the United States of America. Go ahead, Carl.
Douglas takes law, Los Angeles nationwide. All right, boys. Get out of here. We appreciate it. Have a great weekend.
And we will talk to you next week. Get that group test. God bless football. God bless football, gentlemen.
God bless football gentlemen.