The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: 12 In Front of The Hour

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

Pete Rose died yesterday, and Dan leads the crew into a conversation about his lifetime ban lasting until his dying breath and whether or not that was just. Then, Greg Cote finally explains how he alm...ost ended up as Gregory P. Cote, Lucy says she's a great gambler, and Mad Dog Russo watched the Mets win live on his show and the sound was as glorious as you would hope. Plus, it's time for Against the Spread, Dan and Chris make car analogies for the Dolphins, and Greg shares the story of two different people who love him and the show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:22 app now to order your game day favorites. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Baseball's all-time hits leader is now dead and you can make an argument and boy did Pete Rose start a lot of those, that the hit king was finally kind of killed by baseball itself, which tortured him until the very end. Because a man can only seek forgiveness and tranquility and grace and peace and redemption for so long unsuccessfully before the unrest of his purgatory consumes him and his body and his spirit and even his legendary will is forced to give up. Such an immortal on the diamond, such a mortal off it, baseball finally buries in its judgmental resting place's garden outside a singular rose. He was 83. The math on
Starting point is 00:02:22 that means he spent about as much of his life fighting the sport he loved as playing it, as much time disgracing the field as gracing it. That's a shame. His and ours. We can litigate all the pros and cons of electing a degenerate gambler into a hall of fame until each and every one of us is buried right there next to him. But none of those words will change any of the facts about his performance on the field.
Starting point is 00:02:48 He had more hits than anyone ever. That will probably live forever. But in the end, a history house for a sport that's all about numbers chose moralities over measurements, chose to forever judge this man instead of honoring him. The last we saw of him in documentary form was the sport still looking down its nose at him and denying his begging. It must have been so humiliating to get the whole of your identity from a single thing and have it rejected by the sacred lords who are most entrusted with honoring it. The only thing
Starting point is 00:03:25 those judges ever did more successfully than Rose was judge him. And they think they did it most correctly, but they did it most wrongly, which is a pretty good working definition for sanctimony. What's the point of entrusting judges and arbiters with judgment if all they're going to do with it is abandon common sense to instead clutch with a death grip to rosary beads and the strict definition of a rule. Pete Rose may now rest in peace but I really don't know how baseball does. We know that all professional sports leagues are full of greedy hypocritical liars, but this sport fancies itself more sacred than most, even with its storied history of greed, drugs, cheating, and segregation. Pete Rose's crimes,
Starting point is 00:04:13 personal addiction, and weakness. Being human, in other words, in a sport in which failing seven out of every ten times gets an assortment of others not nearly as good as Rose through its hallowed doors. It could not have been in any way good for Rose's health late in life, always desperately craving to be loved back by the game that spent the last half of his life rejecting and burying him long before his final resting spot. Haunted, he was a living ghost hawking his signature for money at the seedy Las Vegas fringes of disgrace. He lied and he gambled. Those were his baseball sins. I sit next to a liar every day. Hey. I work for a gambling company. I will not judge a human the day after his death for being human. The entire sport is
Starting point is 00:05:04 supposed to be about going home, but baseball barred the doors of its most hallowed home and locked one of its favorite sons outside forever until his body went cold as the rest of us. All they had to do at the very end was lift a single forgiving finger of grace, but instead they'll have us believe that he's the only one here who should feel disgraced. You could have just called him the Hick King. Can I ask a question?
Starting point is 00:05:37 I thought yesterday, like one of my initial thoughts. What is? And I wondered, I'm not gonna do it I guess. So, and it was an inside thought that I said outside here and I was like, I don't think we should go there and you guys are like, yeah, ask that question, it's fine. Oh, now you're putting it on us.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Well, so like, if you're banned for life and that ends, does the ban? You're saying for life, and that ends, does the ban? You're saying if life ends, does the ban? Yeah, like are you, like, no. Does a lifetime ban- Is he still banned? Does a lifetime ban end when the life does? Put it on the poll at Levitarch Show, I think it's a good question.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Does a lifetime ban end when the life does? Because you're not doing anything for Pete Rose now if you put him in the Hall of Fame. The whole point was for him to get to enjoy it after, you know, having his identity. I shouldn't say having his identity because he broke the rule and what happened to him is a consequence of the rule, but also baseball is so obviously stiff that you could have forgiven that at some point before he died. We actually had an unaired interview with Pete Rose not too long ago and there is one bit that I dug through our archives for because we asked him what happens if you pass away and Major League
Starting point is 00:06:57 Baseball decides to maybe put you into the Hall of Fame posthumously. We asked him what his opinion would be on that so I think it's fair on today, on today of all days, to have him speak for himself in this, on this regard. In the future, several decades from now, let's say Major League Baseball then makes the decision after Pete Rose is long gone to enshrine him in Major League, in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. How would you feel about that? Well that would, to be honest with you. I wouldn't want to go in the Hall of Fame because I think the Hall of Fame. OK, and don't get me
Starting point is 00:07:30 wrong. The Hall of Fame is for two things. It's one for the player and it's two, three, excuse me, three things. His family. OK, his fans. And and his teammates and everything. It was everybody who was associated with it. It don't help me when I'm six feet under.
Starting point is 00:07:49 How the hell is that going to help anybody? I mean I still go out, today I go out and try to sell the game of baseball and I'm not even in the game of baseball. But you guys will agree my name is synonymous with the game of baseball. I have all the records. You know, that's all baseball is, is statistics. It's all about statistics. All you guys on TV talk about, how many home runs you got? How many RBIs you got? How many runs you got? How many gold gloves you win? How many MVPs you win? How many world series you play in? Those are all
Starting point is 00:08:21 questions that I can answer with no hesitation at all. I want to get to Greg Cody's story about wanting to be Gregory P. Cody as a byline and we will because I know a lot of you are upset that we clipped him there and he's also upset with the hard network out. But I do want to say of this that to me what the Hall of Fame actually is that it does for players that I think is the single most important thing that the Hall of Fame does for these players who had to be so consumed with sports that maybe they didn't enjoy the climb up as much as they could or would have because there were always piranha around who were younger
Starting point is 00:09:05 trying to steal their shit. It is a fountain of youth and old age that gets them to relive their glory in a way that is special, how the rest of us might not understand. The joy that I have seen from people who get to relive more nostalgically, more presently, and more joyously with the wisdom of old age. Yeah, I was pretty great. And man, it felt good. And I was too busy battering my body and traveling all over the place to stay ahead that 30 years later what you're doing to honor them is giving them the most precious gift of here's some access to your youth you may have missed and
Starting point is 00:09:50 you've denied in that forever and you can't get it back yet he was robbed of that at unnecessarily you know he committed a baseball crime that should never have been alike sentence uh... i've always said that you shouldn't have to be perfect to get in the Hall of Fame, and if you weren't perfect, let them note that on your bronze plaque for eternity. Let them note that he had the gambling problem
Starting point is 00:10:13 that ostracized him for years, but don't keep him out and let him die without that. The whole concept of rest in peace, if you believe in that, he ain't doing that today. He's tortured in rest and always will be I mean But he's not an innocent victim like Pete Rose did this to Pete Rose and Pete Rose in multiple conversations also lied about it, right like at first it wasn't I Didn't bet on baseball and it's like I did bet on baseball, but I didn't bet on my team
Starting point is 00:10:40 But I did bet on my team, but I didn't bet against my team. So like, there never really was truth there, right? So like, there's never really an honest conversation for the forgiveness with him, because every opportunity he was given, legitimate or not, he lied about. Given the crime, given the lies, should it have been a life sentence for the all-time greatest hits leader
Starting point is 00:11:01 who never cheated on the field, never had a hit of steroid issues or any of that stuff I Mean that's the problem right because he did break the cardinal rule of baseball and Whatever the penalty whatever you think it should be it shouldn't be keeping one of the all-time great players out of the hall It doesn't have to be forever is all I know but it's also just an asterisk right like it's not real like it Okay, may not have a plaque with his face on it, but he will have things in the Hall of Fame. There's acknowledgement of Pete Rose.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Like people know who Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are. And like we mentioned it and we touched on it on that interview that never aired, but like it kind of, and not to be like the whole Chris Cody, Zion Williamson thing, like it kind of added to his aura, not being allowed to the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It made him money as well. It was, you could argue it was good for him, right? Like it's a strange. I mean, making the Hall of Fame would have made him money as well. It might have, right? But like how many people would know off the top of their head, this is the hits leader and be interested in getting their autograph 50 years after they were inducted into the Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 00:12:03 I don't know the calculus on if he was allowed to stay managing around the game and still was able to have a career in and around baseball. Well, he gambled as a manager, which is another problem, right? He's the one who's determining the outcome of the games and he's gambling on his own team. I imagine during the meat of that band, I know he showed up at Fox briefly in their studio show, but I think a lifetime in and around the game, not being persona non grata is probably worth more to him
Starting point is 00:12:35 than being posted up at a sad Vegas casino. He was starting to make a comeback, and you will see in the end of his life that he ended up off of Fox because there was stuff with women that was problematic and so he wasn't going to make it back no matter what it is that the contrition was. But I want to ask you guys more generally how you feel about the idea of going an entire lifetime without forgiveness. I am generally pretty forgiving.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I'm also a bleeding heart leftist because a lot of people in this country don't think we should be so forgiving about things. I want people forgiven because I'm pro-forgiveness. Doesn't mean I don't want them punished. Doesn't mean I don't want impungent punish doesn't mean I don't want consequences I just rarely wanted to be consequences so stiff that forgiveness never comes there will be no forgiveness you've made the mistake and that mistake is forever you will not get to correct it that's it it's over for you I'm just generally against that not
Starting point is 00:13:43 always either by the way, but in this particular case, even if it though even though it's the worst sin in baseball, in this particular case, I don't know if I want to say, you know what, once somebody's limping around in their 80s, can we reconsider some stuff? Put together a committee. How about this? You're applying age and optics though, I mean. Put together a committee that allows people just in general once they reach their eighties just put together a committee of forgiving people so that we can all consider whether a lifetime band should be for a lifetime or whether we
Starting point is 00:14:17 send someone off where they can actually rest in peace while they're still living because we haven't chased them around with a pitchfork in their 80s. What do you think of that idea? It's an odd committee. It is. Agreed. Is that the veterans committee? Because there are committees that also said no, you can't get in. Is this the worst idea ever? Veterans of forgiveness committee is what it should be. No, the worst idea ever was Stugats holding a napkin with the word spags on it in the penalty. That was all I had. That's where the camera is. The camera has been in the same spot the whole time. My apologies.
Starting point is 00:14:52 That was the worst. I mean, that was the worst mistake ever. It can't be forgiven. It was pretty bad. If I put it in front of the committee, they would never forgive that. You have no color balance issues when you try to hold up a white piece of paper and you just thin ink. What are you doing pal?
Starting point is 00:15:11 What? Major penalty, five minutes, proving comedy. It is a delayed penalty. It's very delayed. I don't know why you were wearing it. You wrote spags on a piece of paper, put it in your mouth and looked at the wrong camera, tucked it in your hat and nobody could see the word spags on the piece of paper. Nobody knew what you were doing.
Starting point is 00:15:36 He was turning his head to look at a monitor that had already had his vision blocked from it because he put a piece of paper that said Spags inside of his house, also covering any hope of being able to read the word Spags. Epically bad. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs. LinkedIn Jobs has the tools to help find the right professionals for your team, faster and for free. As MetalArk Media continues to grow as a content studio, we strive to
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Starting point is 00:17:04 her. No, I don't. That's the thing about beingats. I wish you were here, my wife. I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married. You're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her.
Starting point is 00:17:16 You just said you do miss her. I'm on the phone with her for 30 seconds. Hello, all right. All right, we'll see you. All right. And then I'm going to see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie. Good. We'll see ya. All right, and then you know, I'm gonna see her in two days I was jumping Charlie good. This is the done libertar show with his two guards
Starting point is 00:17:32 Greg Cody you go to the Miami Herald and you're asking to be Gregory P Cody and what is the backstory of this? Is it before Stephen A Smith is Stephen A Smith? Yes for sure The Herald had a really great guy and a gifted writer named S.L. Price. All his friends knew him as Scott Price, but his byline was S.L. Price, which is very elegant, very author-like. It sounds more like a 20th century author, you know, a novelist or something. And I thought that was pretty neat. And just on a whim, I went to my bosses and said, hey, Greg Cody wants to be Gregory P. Cody on his byline from now on with an homage to
Starting point is 00:18:16 S.L. Price. And it didn't fly. And with good reason. I mean, this wasn't super early in my career. Art already been established. I was probably in my late 30s, early 40s. And the Herald just said, no, let's we can't change who people see you as and know you as at this point. Let's not do that. And they talked me out of it. You were so powerless at the Miami Herald that you didn't have any control over how you were named. I didn't want to get into a fight. I'm sure if I had wanted to really make an issue of it I probably could have. You know, I mean theoretically I could have gone by a pseudonym. You know, I could have been, you know, Nelly Wild Bill Cody. You know, all of a sudden that's my byline. Nelly Wild
Starting point is 00:19:00 Bill Cody, huh? Well, yeah, Nelly. He was, a woman's name. He was gonna do Nellie Doogie, and he got tripped up, and he just didn't know what he was doing, and so then he became Wild Bill Cody. Wild Bill Cody, but I didn't wanna do that. Could've been WB Cody, in honor of Wild Bill. I don't know, I didn't even think of that. But, yeah, so I'm just plain old Greg. How old were you at this time?
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think I was like late 30s, early 40s. Yeah, that's too late. My step-uncle, I don't know when your aunt gets remarried. I don't know the technical term. There's a lot of divorce in my family. Stunkel. Yeah, he changed his name randomly three years ago. And he was like, call me this now.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And I was like, brother, you're 50. It's too late for that. Really? Yeah, you're John. You don't get to pick a new name now. What did he pick? He picked, I don't want to JP. He's a really nice guy.
Starting point is 00:19:46 But he was like, no, and here's the thing, is I didn't, he didn't tell me like, hey, I go by JP now. My aunt was like, well yeah, JP will be later. And I was like, who's that? She was like, JP? And I was like, that's why I asked who it is, John. So I feel like you can't change your name
Starting point is 00:20:02 after a certain point, because I try to be respectful and call him by what he wants to be called. Right. But like I've always known you as a different name and you just like what at age 50 were just like, Oh, nevermind. It is weird. But when it comes to a byline though, like SL price was always Scott price to me because his friends called him Scott. You knew him as Scott, but SL was just his byline.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So if I'm Gregory P Cody in my byline people I know are still gonna call me Greg. It does sound more impressive though I will I will grant you that a byline with an initial and it gives you put it on the poll at Levitard show if you have an initial in your byline do you seem more impressive than you are, yes or no. Lucy, I don't know this about you. Everyone here, except Greg Cody, I think, gambles. Do you gamble? Do you enjoy gambling? Not only do I do it, I'm pretty good at it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Are you? I'm pretty good at my college football bets. Normally, like, if I take the time and really just sit down and do it, so my routine usually last year was different because DraftKings wasn't legal in North Carolina than it is now so I always bet when I get home I used to like when we would plan out our trips I like ooh gambling legal state so I could
Starting point is 00:21:17 use the DraftKings app and I'd always do it at the airport. The reason I asked the question. I'd plan the plane and be like ah but I but I bet very, very little so that I'm not like, I just kinda like to do it because it's fun. I'm not actually like putting money that I can't afford to lose on it. The reason that I ask you the question is because if you enjoy gambling, you will also enjoy somebody else's bad beat story.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Not your bad beat story, although there are some bad beats so bad that you can even enjoy those. I've laughed sometimes at the way i get beaten on things but tell me whether you find this pete rose story i believe it's one of the greatest stories told on this show especially because it's this person telling it tell me whether or not you find this bad beat story to be funny at or six in front one night of a corner
Starting point is 00:22:03 which is a track in cincinnati and that they deer ran out of Back side Which was your horse winning by? It was six and a half and front going down the back side. This and they put a wall up at the track now so deers can't get on the track. That ruled. Yeah, that's awesome. That was a great story. By the way, can I make a quick correction? You said I never gamble. Speaking of horses, I do bet on my race horse calmly whenever she runs. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, every time. Bonaifides. She won a grade two race earlier this year. Wow. In France or Germany, I can't remember. But you know, I won like 80 bucks. She's never a huge long shot, but she's always a small long shot.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So it's not like you're never gonna get rich, but yeah, I do gamble in that sense. Greg, I thought of you recently because I saw that Kelsey's bought into Team Valor and they themselves have a racehorse now. Why are you swinging your coffee when he's talking? Because he just told a story and he got to be the star of that story
Starting point is 00:23:13 and we talked about his initials and he's just enjoying. Yeah, Travis Kelsey and I are Team Valor stablemates along with Guy Fieri. Ooh. Greg, if you could change your first name, but it can't be Greg or Gregory, what would you change it to? Alphieri. Ooh. Greg, if you could change your first name, but it can't be Greg or Gregory, what would you change it to? Alphonse.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Okay. Oh. All right. Would you go by Alf? No, Alfonse. Alfie? Ooh, Alfie Cody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 That's a good dog name, next dog, Alfie Cody. Alfie? Yeah, Alfie Cody. Yeah, that's cute. Wasn't there a movie called Alfie? Yeah, sure. It's funny that you say that
Starting point is 00:23:42 because I'm reading the Will Smith biography and they allowed him and Jada Pinkett went and asked their son initially to choose the name for his brother and they gave him permission and he just shouted Luigi. And they're like, we can't do that. And they crushed the kid, but then they named the dog Luigi. So they had the exact pivot that you had where they just said, name one of the pets that and left a broken hearted kid with a brother with a different name because Jada and
Starting point is 00:24:09 Will weren't gonna have a Luigi Smith running around in their family. Do you think that this Norm MacDonald bad beat story told on our show, nothing can rival the Pete Rose story, but this blackjack story from Norm MacDonald is pretty damn good. One time I had a massive bet down. It was my last bet. I just said, I'll just bet all this. And then I got two aces. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And then I was like, I don't know if I have enough money, but can I get some credit from the casino to bet on this other ace? And they're like, no. Does anyone'm like, does anyone else wanna buy an ace? No, but everyone else there was betting small. You were at a $5 table. No, I don't like that. I don't like the, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:24:57 I'm watching the draft. What? What? Nor, what? I was just watching the draft So anyways my two aces I go hit me, you know, I have to you know, I mean so I have to hit so I Have been ace and an ace. It's a two So obviously I would have had 2 21.
Starting point is 00:25:29 He said I have one 22. Just watching it like a draft. We on during a draft like the whole trap. He was doing comedy. We had him on during the football season at like 10.30 a.m. There was no draft going on. Yesterday was an exceptional baseball day. It was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:25:52 The doubleheader between the Mets and the Braves had consequences. I imagine Billy, that second game of the doubleheader, you were rooting against the Braves. Oh yeah, no. I wasn't watching the game, but I was rooting against the Braves. Mad Dog was watching this live. We've got a lot of Mad Dog sound. I don't know how long it is, but let's just enjoy this vicariously
Starting point is 00:26:10 through Mad Dog, who cares deeply about the Mets, as in the first game, Francisco Lindor, who's been great for them. He was so bad for them last season, and he's just carried them for three quarters of the season this year. Let's listen to Mad Dog react to Francisco Lindor's home run. An opportunity against the Braves, back of the season this year let's listen to mad dog react to francisco lindor's home run
Starting point is 00:26:25 opportunity against the braves back of the bullpen now he hits a fly ball that's pretty well at the right side and that's what is that landowners just got flat out and that's the eight to seven but you're not over by the door and you're not has the advantage my goodness, what a baseball game! As Lindor hit a ball out the right center, looked like a fly ball at first, but the ball
Starting point is 00:26:50 carried and carried and carried, Harris scaled the wall and it left it, and New York now leads 8-7 and Diaz gets a second life in the bottom of the ninth. Oh my goodness! I don't know if you're allowed to do play-by-play like that. Maybe you are when you're on Sirius x m and they have certain rights to certain games what other sound do you have from that doubleheader and mad dog that would show his general enthusiasm for all baseball riches that were happening yesterday and then he just hit a home run is that just see that is uh... nemo and he just hit
Starting point is 00:27:22 the ball out of the ballpark in the upper deck and right and the Mets now have a 6-3 lead, a 6-1 outburst in the top of the eighth inning against Nelobar, Kamenez and uh, and Henglisius and the Mets now are in excellent shape to win this game and now everybody in Arizona has become a Met fan for the rest of the day. Oh my goodness Arizona got knocked out of the playoffs with that second game yesterday because Of what Ozuna and the Braves did to save their season at the end. Give me a little more mad dog enthusiasm It's three nothing the whole game
Starting point is 00:27:58 Here's a three one from Diaz and they say ball in the left field and pretty well in and it's off the wall. It gets by the left field and one run will score, two runs will score and there's Atlanta Braves score another run. A three run double off the wall on left field by our good buddy Albies and Atlanta leads seven to six in an absolute classic now down in Atlanta. The Mets who had a 6-4, they didn't bring Diaz in and Diaz gives it up back to back to back to back and now all of a sudden the Mets, oh my goodness how they bounce back in a game two scenario will be fascinating in places now. Can close it as New York trails 7-6 as Arby's just missed a grand slam out the deep left at a 3-1 The season is here and there is absolutely nothing better than game day, but it can be
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Starting point is 00:30:43 I heard that as a woman faking pain. I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't, you know. It was not fake. It was in no way fake. You can spot a woman faking it. Stugats. Yes, I can, Jess.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Expert. I've been married 40 years. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. two guards. That's time, that's right it's time for a Gash! Let's go ahead and start it over. No editing, let's start it over. Just leave it there so that people can feel your shame and we can all sink into it. And then we'll just start over. That's time, folks.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's the spread. It's The Spread. Let's try it again. And it's brought to you by. Try it again. No, let's, look, your father's ashamed. Take three. Yeah, let's try this again. Again, leave all of this in.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Do not edit it under any circumstances. That's right, it's time for Against the Spread! Just heard Stugat's whisper to Chris, do Thursday Thunder, do Thursday Thunder. And it's brought to you by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you're going to hear all about DraftKings and how all it has to offer Throughout the show DraftKings the crown is yours. I think you got that wrong, too No, I think you got I think we did you do homework with Chris as a kid. No, obviously it shows. Yeah child left behind All right, so for my against the spread, I'm sorry Chris I felt being saying you said you're good at this
Starting point is 00:32:44 I think we need to have Lucy's picks now if you're alleging to people that you can make them I'm gonna be bad at it because you've put all this press you put pressure on it by saying you were good at it Yeah, I just hoped you wouldn't follow up Just kind of hope you forget about it. He never does Yeah, it's kind of a bummer see if I told you you would forget about it So he would start he would start calling you all the time and making those bets. Are you kidding? Do you know how many times he's done that?
Starting point is 00:33:07 I'm just shocked that hasn't happened, because it hasn't happened this much this season, but Chris Cody would text me every Saturday of last year. I've been texting Mina on this front for, Mina and Mike, for about three years. Well, don't text me. I'm busy on Saturdays. I have to work.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You know how that goes. That's honestly, I almost texted you this past Saturday, but it was like right when I know you're out there like getting content. I'm just like, I'm not going to be that guy. That's like, I almost texted you this past Saturday, but it was like right when I know you're out there like getting content, I'm just like, I'm not gonna be that guy that's like, hey, give me your winners. You're out working right now, give me the winners. Lucy, can you give us a winner?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Oh yes, so for my against the spread this week, I was taking pit minus three at UNC against the spread. Pits four no, and shocking enough, they're going like anti-Narduzzi in their scoring points. And I don't think, I'm so sorry, Taylor, it can be overstated how bad UNC football is this year. They are terrible.
Starting point is 00:33:52 They blew a 20 point lead against Duke, the rival this weekend. They are awful. It's gonna be a home game. There aren't gonna be a lot of fans there. I'm taking Pitt. Undefeated Pitt Panthers. Against the spread.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Against the spread. For my against the spread, I'm gonna take Panthers. Against the spread. Against the spread. From my against the spread, I'm gonna take the fight in Texas Aggies. Against Mizzou. Mizzou's still good, but I don't think they're as good as last year. And now it kind of feels like Coach Elko's scheme, especially defensively starting to take shape
Starting point is 00:34:18 over Texas A&M. You know I was a big Connor Wegman guy, but I don't think you can go back to Connor Wegman and talk to some people around the program. But you can't take readouts right now. Look at me, Lou. Lavi and Moss. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Fully online in the last game. A grinder, a bit of a grinder against Arkansas, but I think Coach Elko and that home field advantage will be enough for the 12th man. I'm going Texas A&M against the Spritz. I thought that Lucy and Mike alleged last year that Mizzou was doing NIL better than most and that they had help from the state and that Mizzou would be in the playoffs this year because of how they had reinvented themselves last year. That was last year. There was a court injunction basically saying that the NCAA couldn't really act on any injunctions
Starting point is 00:35:03 that they had on NIL, and Tennessee's also doing it quite well. Mizzou, they were first to the market with having that kind of setup, and they reap the benefits, and they still do. They still are recruiting at a high level, but the advantages have kind of dissipated some. I'm gonna take the Miami Dolphins plus one
Starting point is 00:35:24 at the New England Patriots I know you guys are thinking last night did not look good for the Dolphins and Tyler Huntley He had what 96 yards not super efficient, but the Patriots haven't been much better Dan the Patriots last three games They've scored 13 3 and 20 points. They're only one of the season. They scored 16 This is not a team that can put up a lot of offense and with Tyler Snoop Huntley in there I feel like things might click give them a little extra time to work things out also here's the thing when you go up to Foxborough this is the time of year to do it it's gonna be a high of 69 a low of 50 only 6% chance of precipitation
Starting point is 00:36:02 and winds moving 7 miles per hour east-north-east. So, not a bad day for football. Fall has arrived in Foxboro, Massachusetts and so will the Miami Dolphins against the Sprens! You are actively committing a crime against our audience by making them think about or watch that football game. I mean, a winner's a winner. If I have to, they do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 That's a low bar. 16 points wins the game. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What is the over-under in Patriots-Dolphins? That's gonna be in the- 35 and a half. 30 is crazy. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I mean, it is insane given where it is we were with the Dolphins, I don i don't know seven eight games ago uh... that is the wheels falling off of the vehicle they would score thirty five points a game by themselves so that i have any in one game do you realize that the uh... the thing that's happening with the dolphins that makes me do things like say the season is over and they built it all wrong is and especially when you guys are saying they're not big enough for their finesse team they've built a Ferrari and when the spark plug gets taken out it's such a vehicle of you
Starting point is 00:37:14 know the way that it's supposed to work with its parts the vehicle is built Fragilely, but Dan explains cars without knowing anything about cars. No car would work without a spark plug. Let's give him a chance. Let's give him a chance. Let's play out here. Keep going with it. Alright Bob Vila, take it away. If you take out a spark plug, next thing you know it seems like the brakes and the steering wheel don't work because the car just ends up in a ditch or doesn't turn on. Nothing works. I got a better one. Let me do this better. Is the spark spark plug that important we have a Lamborghini and only two and knows how to drive stick shift everyone else just is trying the car automatic or manual that's in this analogy six shift yeah I think aren't all I know well he's the only one that knows how to drive it but is this Lamborghini a stick shift it's it's a stick shift yeah okay I think Chris's analogy is better than mine
Starting point is 00:38:02 especially because I don't know about cars and I don't have any idea what the spark plug situation is. Well it could be fine if you lose a spark plug. You need a spark plug to turn it on, so without the spark plug nothing would work. I need a jump. You understand what I'm saying when I say though that you have a vehicle and it feels like the brakes and the steering wheel don't work the moment that one little glitch is off. I had a car that every time you turned, you opened up the sunroof, it caused a fuse to blow, and then my car would randomly shift into park in the middle of me driving. Is that a good analogy?
Starting point is 00:38:31 That's what's happening. That's what's happening. That feels right. Also, the driver's side window didn't roll down, so I went through the drive-through, had to open the door. Oh, the worst. What about the chassis?
Starting point is 00:38:39 So embarrassing. So, too, is a sunroof. Yeah. What's the chassis? Greg, you owe $5 for your phone pinging there again Yeah, it did because it always does because you don't know how to turn down the bag Rosenfeld texting me That can't be true. No, it is get back to him. What do you say last night while watching? I? Was I was chanting at the TV?
Starting point is 00:39:03 We want sofa classic bag I was chanting at the TV, we want Stofa. Classic bag. Reference John Stofa, a Dolphins quarterback in 1968. Gary the Bag, we all met him and got cornered by him at Greg Cody's 70th birthday party. And stood up and waved when we mentioned him in his speech. It was all 1430, Gary the Bag? That's correct.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. And you know it. And you do know it, thank you. The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody is Greg Cody's podcast. He wants it promoted every time he is on here. But before we promote that, Greg's been mad today and he's been mad since last week, Stu Gotz,
Starting point is 00:39:43 because he just said to me during the break, he's like, hey, I've got some trepidation about asking you this, but promote my podcast, okay? And I'm like, well why? I asked you, I didn't say it quite that forcefully. I mean. You said you had trepidation. Right, yeah, after last week.
Starting point is 00:39:58 About me promoting your podcast or asking me to promote your podcast after last week when you were trying to say something heartfelt about your wife and I continually played with the microphone. Sure. your podcast or asking me to promote your podcast after last week when you were trying to say something heartfelt about your wife and I continually played with the microphone. So you're mad about that and you're still mad about that because he says I got a memory like an elephant is what he says.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I don't let go of things like that. He's getting over it. He said on the Greg Cody Show that that's as mad as he's ever been with you, which I called BS on. I mean he gets mad at me a lot and I understand it. He had every right to be mad. I am, he gets mad at me a lot and I understand it. He had every right to be mad. I am apologizing all the time to Stugats and Greg
Starting point is 00:40:30 because of how we do this, because I often. Was that Dan's? Classic bag. He's just gonna keep texting you because it went off again and now you're not even hearing. What did you respond back? What did you say to the bag? I didn't yet, I mean.
Starting point is 00:40:43 What's the bag up to now? Give him a second. Tell him I said hello. Hold on Yeah, I don't know. He's working. I've never met him. What was that last thing? Yeah, who what was that? This is like I'm turning it off. What did the bag send to you? I'm terrified to have it ping again. Dad we're asking what that last thing was. We want the communication. It wasn't from him. So I don't know where it was. Who was it from? I don't know. But you control that. You sent it back. I mean.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's astonishing. You don't know how to put your phone on vibrate, so your move is just to turn it off. Was it Radke? Last time he turned my phone off for me and threw it across the room. There's a little thing right here. Luckily, it landed on a sofa.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Greg, I did that because I keep turning it down, and you turn it back up. So I just turned it off. You owe $10, by the way, in fines. fine all right let me get right on that you heck of an apology I mean juice hey that's getting pulled in the bucket and no one's actually paying their fines anymore and it makes it just like a horrible thing I mean took a mean for the first time ever last week opted with the swap helmet to take the instant death and the fine bucket from Mike.
Starting point is 00:41:45 It was an all time moment, historic. Some are saying unhistoric moment, unhistoric. But there's no money in there. Jesse's been getting it. No, there was $10. It was $10. He did it for $10. He accepted the loss for $10. I have 10 here, but I can't give it
Starting point is 00:41:57 because I need to save five for the valet. That's fair. In fact. That's nice of you. I was gonna ask if someone could break a 10. You're gonna give know five to the valley well his son his son shames him it's chris telling him moss it's not christmas it's begrudgingly he gives five it's chris cody telling his father you don't give one in two dollars anymore to a valet you gotta give five
Starting point is 00:42:17 dollars because inflation right but if you if if the valet spends eight minutes getting my car uh... two dollars eight uh... seven If the valet spends eight minutes getting my car, $2.87 in an hour, he's getting, you know, 14 bucks an hour. The idea of you going out of your way to break a 10, though, is ridiculous. Like, just give him the 10. It says the big spender.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Oh, I don't think I'd give him the 10 there. Get your five back. Thank you. I think you get your change. You're not gonna go get changed, though. Like, I'm with you. Five is plenty. I'm not saying I give 10.
Starting point is 00:42:46 But if I only have a 10, I'm not going to drive somewhere to break it. You're well within your rights to ask them if they can break it. That's true. No, you don't do that. No, you can't. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah, they don't do that. That's more cash than a valet driver. I think I gave someone a 20 once, because I'm not going to ask for change from a valet driver. You can also ask them for their Venmo. I refuse to. I am lying. That's my move. Yeah, but that's the lie. That's what you for the Venmo. I am lying. That's my move.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah, but that's the lie. That's what you ask and then you don't pay. That's a lie. I do pay it though. I mean, we love Venmo, don't get me wrong. Proud sponsor. Yep. Saying that out loud so you all know that.
Starting point is 00:43:17 You know you can get three, you get 30 DK dollars if you transfer $100 into your DraftKings daily fantasy account using Venmo first time users. Just throwing that out there. It's a funnest idea. You guys are so busy self involved talking, thinking yourselves wacky. You didn't notice that StuGots just stole $5.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Like it happened right in front of your eyes that StuGots traded a 10 for five. He's stealing a lot more than that today. And you guys didn't even notice that he put in his pocket that StuGots just made $5 right in front of you because you're so right back there that we're gonna insult Venmo by accident that nobody's noticing that Stu gots is actively stealing money right in front of your eyes I broke his ten with five singles so there you go how about that you're welcome he still
Starting point is 00:43:59 has no idea anyway as I was saying Stuats, put that $10 back on the table. You were offering him $5. Put it in. I owe you $5. Oh, you owe me five. Yeah, you owe, exactly right. You actually owe me eight. Yeah, no, you owe Stugats $5, if I remember correctly. I gave him $3 last week for the valet driver,
Starting point is 00:44:19 so now you owe me eight. So you gave Stugats a 10. Stugats gave you five singles back, and now you owe Stugatz $5. Memory like a steel trap, that guy. Yep. Okay. Any more?
Starting point is 00:44:29 Back to you, Dan. I owe you, just put that on the table. Any more? Just get it all out so that I can continue the show now. Just keep doing whatever it is you wanna do for as long as you wanna do it, and tell me when I can have the show back. We should print more money.
Starting point is 00:44:41 That helps. Then you can get Tyreek Hill on the Chiefs. Yes, you could. What if? You want to play some more? What if? What is the worst mistake ever made? Do we come up with something that suggests that there's a worst mistake ever made?
Starting point is 00:44:53 Sam Bowie. Ford Edsel. That can't be the worst mistake ever made. Ford Edsel was an infamously bad car. He offered Chernobyl as a nominee. You're going to say Edsel. My blonde hair. Yeah, Lucy's blonde hair. Lucy, can we get a picture of that? car he offered chernobyl as a nominee you're gonna say it's all my blonde hair yellows is one who seek and we get a picture of that
Starting point is 00:45:08 i'll see if i can find out when you're at the s b's that was said that i was it was just that it was even blonde it was brass is a terrible looking somebody should have pulled me aside said so greg cody is mad at me from last week and uh... we have now promoted the podcast the great kody show featuring greg kody i'm getting over it there's also something else that he was upset about from last week which is that he never got to do his lobo's update he got mad again today because we hard
Starting point is 00:45:38 networked out at him so he he's a little bit agitated he stormed out of the studio last week, but now the mayor of Albuquerque, evidently, is a big listener to the show. I wonder if this happens to you guys almost everywhere you go, because I don't know what your fame looks like when you travel, but if we go just about anywhere, I think there will be one or two people in some place
Starting point is 00:46:04 that listens to our show, that. It just happens weirdly It's not a cavalcade of people but like randomly you'll find that the mayor of Albuquerque is fired up because Greg Cody has been Wounded by his Lobos update not getting to be done. So what happened with the mayor of Albuquerque? Yeah Albuquerque, of course is the home city of the new mexico lobo's uh... which were named after greg's lobo's a lot of people know and the lobo's you know everybody talks about georgia alabama as the game of the week it wasn't new mexico played at new mexico state in a storied rivalry the lobo's were all
Starting point is 00:46:43 in for they go into New Mexico State and win their first game of the season 50 to 40 why'd they win because the mayor of Albuquerque Tim Keller chanted we are the Lobos the most golden three words in all of sports and that inspired the team evidently and so we are the Lobos. The Lobos. The Lobos. We are the Lobos.
Starting point is 00:47:09 We are the Lobos. We are the Lobos. The Lobos. We are the Lobos. So basically they made the mayor just say the phrase we are the Lobos and some guy took the sound and chopped it up and put Okay, yeah They were very it was disrespectful to the Lobos last week on this show and someone in the mayor's office Let the mayor know that hey we need to make this right
Starting point is 00:47:35 let's put up a photo of the mayor here so we could see what it is that that he's got going on because The killer yeah, he's very serious about his footballs He wearing shoulder pads or just a shirt that looks like it has shoulder pads just a football jersey Sam sands pads yeah mayor since 2007 he must be doing something else right mm-hmm I'll tell you that right but something else about the the great Cody show podcast I want to say real quickly and this is in honesty, I heard about a listener of our show who climbed- And the Levitar Show.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Who climbed Mount Kilimanjaro wearing a Greg Cody Show hat. And I'm like, I gotta talk to this guy. So we had him on the show, and it turns out climbing Mount Kilimanjaro is the least interesting thing about this guy because he lost his mother to a brain tumor. He himself is a cancer survivor and he's got multiple sclerosis. He's climbing a mountain, the tallest mountain in Africa with MS. So this guy's a truly inspiring story. And the only reason my dad wants to talk about it is because he was wearing a Greg Cody show hat. Exactly. The most impressive thing about the feat,
Starting point is 00:48:45 that is correct. The most impressive thing is that now a Greg Cody hat has been at the top of Mount Kilimanjaro. It's never been done before. I think it's the hat that says Greg Cody is for lovers. Yeah, right he is. If he had all those same elements
Starting point is 00:48:58 but didn't have the hat on, would you still be talking about him? Probably not. Not at all. Other people have done it, just no one else has done it with a Greg Cody hat. I guess that's true. Yeah. Shout out Matt.
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