The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: A Drift Better Left Uncaught

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

The 49ers finally got lucky after years of bad breaks. Then, Greg Cote delivers a Back in my Day that's controversial across the United States. Plus, Dan gets excited for the Super Bowl, we learn about the timeline of witches, and Greg ruins Billy and Jeremy's plan to save baseball. Also, a startling Stat of the Day, Greg calls out Angel Resto, and progress in NFL hiring procedures and the New York Knicks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Put the microphone in front of you, Greg. Yes, sir. Hey, you have a back of my day today, right? I do. Yeah, that's it's a two-sign. I'm sorry. I was still here. I dare you. No, that was my fault. That was my fault. I forgot what day it was. We'll get to it in a second and we will get to Billy's suggestion for saving baseball. I

understand that when you lose that way ball, I understand that when you lose that way, what is going to engulf your offseason is everyone from every angle is going to have a criticism and it sucks to have to live with all of that. All I'm saying about the Ravens is the following, if I've been the best team in football all year and what I need in the big game is for my MVP to play like the MVP and for my defense to do what it has done, I do not blame those coaches for choosing to trust the things that made them the best

in the league, just like I don't blame Dan Campbell for doing the same thing in the last game that he did in all the other games, and just simply believes in the idea that my guys are pretty good and I'm going to trust them. A coach buys himself plenty with his players when he does that, when he trusts them to simply be arrogant about yes on fourth and three I trust my offense, what do you have? I trust my guys to get the three yards. He's not consistent half to half though,

Dan Campbell. That's the problem and And Dan, you also lose your players when you put them in a position to lose the game. Stagants, it's not inconsistency that was Dan Campbell's problem in that game. Dan, he kicked a field goal at the end of the half to make it a three-score game. But we went over this yesterday. That is different inside of the five-yard line

than it is in other situations. And he always goes for it. Like he's done it, it's not always, it's 20 of 24 times, but that's what he does. Like I just don't understand criticizing a coach for doing the same things that he did to get you to 12 and 5 or 13 and 3 or 13, 14 and 3. Which is why the criticisms from, for the Ravens lands because they totally changed up their identity for that game and While Kansas City's defense is very good and took certain things away It didn't take away the real engine that made that whole offense run the entire time You mentioned the NFC championship game and I didn't get this taken yesterday

And I want to shoehorn it in before we get to Tuesday's back in my day We mentioned that the Niners kind of got lucky in that game. You've outlined why. And it's finally the luck working out for them. When you think about how they've missed the Super Bowl previously, the injuries at the quarterback position, famously Brock, party snaps his elbow in that game against the Eagles. But also I thought back to when they had a really good team and they went on the

road and the NFC championship game against Matthew Stafford. They had the game 1, an interception. Matthew Stafford totally changed his narrative because they dropped an interception in that game. So they get super unlucky there, they get super unlucky the following year, and they somehow back into the Super Bowl, having not played well at all for about a month. Kyle Shanahan has never come back from the point deficits that he's had to the last

two weeks, and they haven't done so in impressive fashion. So I think you can actually say they've gotten lucky just as easily as you can say they've gotten unlucky in previous years. The back in my day is ready. It is. So too is Billy's saving baseball. Which would you go to if you were me here, Greg Cody? I would go to Billy. Wow, I'd go to Greg.

Oh! Wow. Stand off. That's why they pay you the big bucks. Oh! It is time to take a trip down memory lane. Here's your guy, Greg Codyudi, with Back in My Day. Too many papers here. You aren't ready for it.

Okay. Clotheslines. Where'd they go? Gone with the wind or rather the gentle breeze that once caressed our washed garments to a state of sun-kissed dry. One of the indelible memories of my ute was the backyard at 1440 and what stood between the above-ground swimming pool and the lime trees. It was a clothes line, now a relic of the past, foreign to many or most except elders, but once a staple of how millions dried their clothing. Dad planted in cement two six-foot, T-shaped steel poles about 15 or 18 feet apart with a pair of laminated, thin steel cords strung taut from the tops. When not in use, dozens of wooden clothespins would stand sentry on the lines like crows

on a wire at the ready. When in use, clothes of all variety, from shirts to pantaloons and undergarments, along with towels and pillowcases, would hang pinned from the line, wafting in the breeze, drying by degrees. The clothes line was nature's clothes dryer, efficient, cost-free, and noise-free, but for the soothing riffle or soft snap of a bed sheet is a mild gust passed by. Nowadays, clothes are thrown into the behemoth maw of the electric dryer in the laundry room.

You're clothes in a sodden ball, a wet clump as the dryer lumbers to life. With great clatter and racket, the time-consuming dryer spends an hour banging and twisting and high heating and over time shrinking your garments. It's textile torture. Meantime, the sun winks and the breeze tickles in the backyard where the clothesline once stood. Many condo associations and communities, no doubt taking bribe money from Big Dryer, have even banned backyard clothes lines as unsightly. Ah, but guess what?

Big Dryer doesn't want you to know this, but hang onto your clothespins because the old backyard staple of Americana may be making a comeback. California passed a right to dry law legalizing clothes lines again. More than a dozen other states, including Florida, remarkably, have overturned local bans on clothes lines as more and more folks embrace the natural way of life. The rally is overdue. Beyond the cost saving and the quiet, mechanical dryers emit greenhouse gas emissions and increase fabric wear and tear. The breeze doesn't. The clothes line also produces no static cling or cloying perfume from fabric softeners

and much less wrinkling as well. Make it a family project. Erect your own clothesline. The air fryer is all the rage. Why not the air dryer? The one waiting for you in the fresh air out back. I'm Greg Cody and that's how it was back in my day. Yeah.

Beautifully written. I was not aware that's how it was back in my day. Beautifully written. I was not aware that the clothesline was endangered. I thought there are many, many people all over, not just this country, but moreover the entire globe that don't have the money or the electricity for dryers and that this is still something that is being used all over the place. Am I wrong about this? No, I think you're right globally. Certainly in underserved countries and economically deprived countries, you're probably right. But in America, when the dryer became invented

and became popular in the 1940s and 50s, you know, clothes lines, like my backyard as anecdotal, clothes lines, you know, became out of vogue. I don't think in America, though, among people, I don't think, I'm guessing I have this right, I certainly didn't think that it was illegal to have clotheslines in America. They're banned in some communities, Dave. Oh, for sure. Yes. Yes.

But it's because they're viewed as unsightly in communities that have money, I would assume. Like, not community, because I think I'd try. Correct, you pay $700,000 for your condo, you don't wanna see Greg Cody's underwear. As of 2013, there were 19 different states that had passed laws forbidding bans on clotheslines. So we're getting back. We're getting back.

We're getting back, but if you put it on the pole, do you have a clothesline or do you use a dryer? I suspect it would be pretty lopsided. Do you use them? I did, back in the day, do you have a clothesline or do you use a wash dryer? I suspect it would be pretty lopsided. Do you use them? I did, back in the day. Sure. Put it on the pole please, juju. Well, I don't have a good answer for that.

You've succumbed to societal pressures. I'm picturing the look on my wife's face if I said, you know what, I want to get rid of our dryer. I want to build a clothes line in the backyard like Wild Bill Cody. What do you think her reaction would be? She would not be happy. On a sunny day, it takes about four hours for an article of clothing to dry. On a cloudy day, about six to eight hours.

Okay, what's your hurry? I mean, you could be done in 45 minutes. And what's your hurry? Big news for you, Greg. In 2011, Steven Lake made a documentary about this huge controversy on clothes lines called Drying for freedom. There you go. How about that? So I'm only 12 years behind the curve on this I thought I was inventing all this my neighbors still use a clothes line really they're in their 80s

Okay, good for them. It's nice. They go out there, I go out in the yard, the kids are playing in the yard, there they are picking up their whites, picking up their reds, all that stuff, yeah. Then they go out there and put some new stuff. When it gets cloudy out there, I look around, I'm like, oh, it's gonna start raining. Should I go tell Nana that it's gonna rain so that they bring in the clothes?

I hope they don't get wet, you know what I mean? No, that's a factor, but the wood clothespins were replaced in time by the plastic clothespins. Oh, worse products. Yeah, worse. I mean, you gotta go wood. 100% always go wood. Yeah.

In fact, my house, Greg, I don't know if you know this, well, why would you know this, but my house, when I bought it, it has a clothesline that's been set up, and it was used for, I don't know why, because there's a dryer. But I'll use it if I have to hose things down outside, or sometimes if I clean some towels, or I clean some mats, some door rugs, stuff like that,

have it air dry outside. Good for you, Billy. But then it rains, and then I have to do the whole process again. That's the part, the darn rain. Well, the rain is cleansing as well, though. Yeah, but it also wets my dry rugs, and I have to dry them again.

It's always sunny tomorrow. That's true. After every rain comes a rainbow. It's a gag. Mm-hmm Not true in any way which which part just all of it the rainbow I would have pessimists just every syllable that tumbled from your lips all of them were wrong At Levitage show a rainbow without rain. Please put it on the pole if you pay $700,000 for your condo. Do you want to see Greg Cody's underwear you damn right you're on a closed line bonus

I'm in boxers now so those are much better to look at than when I was in tidy whiteies trust me on that one because at some point the tidy whities don't quite get white anymore in the back if you catch my drift what year did you stop wearing tidy whiteies Greg? I'm trying to catch your drift. It's a drift better left uncaught given what he's talking about. Back away from the drift everyone. They make underwear in all sorts of colors you don't have to. I know, but back in the day, if you wore tidy whiteies, they were called tidy whiteies for a reason. Yeah, I understand. But if you prefer...

If you still prefer those tights as opposed to the boxer, and you don't want to catch that drift again, you can just opt for a different color. Yeah, we love the boxers, we like to breathe. You know what I mean? But you understand what Mike is saying, you can get brown, tidy whities, essentially. Oh yeah, yeah, but I'm past the tidy whities. Yeah, it is a different one.

Put it on the pole, please, Juju. Are the fruit of Greg Cody's looms shit-stained? Wow. I mean, just say what you meant. That was a drift that you were trying to get us to count. Stop making it a drift. Stop making it a drift. He doesn't need to be a little less direct. Yeah.

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Don Lebatard! We like to call this one a chorus of Owen Wilson. Ready? Stugats. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Stu gots ever so slowly is getting me excited about the Super Bowl because I hear him during breaks planning things. He's talking to Greg Cody about dominating radio rows, selling the pride of a lion there with juju and Stu gots creating a commotion on radio row to get Greg Cody interviewed. Billy, why are you shaking your head no back there? Because we have a tight schedule

that we need to adhere to and we have added responsibilities this year. So we're not just gonna have free reign like we did last year. We can just run around for hours. Like I've looked at the schedule and there are tight windows and there's lots of travel going back and forth.

There's activations that are being shot during the early days that we have to leave Radio Row then go back to Radio Row. There's walkthroughs, there's rehearsals, there's all kinds of things going on. We're not going to have all of this endless amount of time. He doesn't care so much about your planning and your schedule. That's fine. I honestly, and I had this conversation and by the the way, go to circa.com slash levitar- underscore. Come visit us.

No, that's not it. You were doing so well there, man. Well, I really thought you were gonna help us out. You were so dressed, man. I was really, really hoping you were gonna help us out. I'm a little worried. I feel like, and I know the planning, we're probably too far down the road here,

but I was thinking we should do those shows Monday and Tuesday because that's when the energy's gonna be at a maximum. Thursday and Friday, energy's not at the maximum. Well, too late now to change it. Can we do Monday, Tuesday? February 8th and 9th, 10 a.m. So please stop talking, 10 a.m.

Pacific Time, reserve your tickets now at cirkelossvagus.com slash LeBatard. I'm gonna find the time to do this with Greg because it's important to Greg, okay? Not only will he be pitching the Pride of a Lion, also fins at 50. We are gonna send that thing to the New York Times bestseller list.

I'm also thinking perhaps a very sad Las Vegas Pete Rose style autograph session where he autographs books outside a store in a sad strip mall. I am going to get this done and I will do it on my own time. I will be there for every single thing that I need to be at. Okay. All the rehearsals. I'm ready. I'm taking this thing seriously. But Billy, I'm disappointed in you. Why? This was your idea. You said create a buzz early in the show, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I am willing to do this on my own time. Hopefully you'll be willing to do it as well. I know Juju is in. I just, I need to know the time. You know what I mean? Because then we can make it. What did you get there, Greg? I got there late Tuesday.

Oh, that's not good. No. How's that seance going that you guys are planning with Don Shula? How's all that going going that you guys are planning with Don Shula? How's all that going? Could you guys talk about a lot of stuff and then do next to nothing? That's falsehoods. That's not true. How's the seance going?

We reached out to a witch. What do you want me to do? Yeah, that was the same answer I got last time I... I don't have the ability to speak to dead people. I need to talk to people that can, and they're not my employees. I can't just make them talk to me. Things are happening. I'm trying to make it happen. I have employees and I can't make them talk to me.

I don't know why you think having the employees, like I have employees, I want a seance, make the seance happen please, please make me stop asking for the seance, it's a good idea, execute it please. Dan, this is what I've learned about witches. They perform a seance on their own time. With their ready.

Exactly, right. Okay, when they feel like, when Rosalyn, a friendly witch, she's a friend of ours. And we want it to remain friendly. Yes, she has, when she feels like it's the right time and she can connect with Don Shula, that's when we'll do it. We're on her watch.

Shula's gotta be ready as well. That's right. Shula's gotta be ready ready the last thing you might be taking a nap The last thing you want in a seance is unwilling participants You want everyone to be in it you want Don to be in on it you want Roslyn to be in on it You want captain Lee on it you want Greg and I you want everyone that's there to want to have the conversation It to happen which it will never happen want to have the conversation. I just want it to happen, which it will never happen. It may.

You guys just talk about it. It may happen in March, but it may happen. Is this a pro bono thing for her, for Rosalind? Yes. Okay, so I think if there's money involved, she would be able to talk to him a lot faster. Well, that's not how that works. I think it's-

You don't know Rosalind, I mean. You're implying that this is some sort of sham in which money is exchanged and then- I think if you offer her a couple hundred bucks, I think Don Shill will be very quick at answering. You're the reason she's not willing to do it right now because she thinks it's a joke. We're taking it as a joke.

We're not taking it seriously. She takes us very seriously. Yes. She can't be bought. Correct. A couple of housekeeping items, Stugatz, because Billy sabotaged our ability to promote something that's important to promote because right now Friday is really exploding and Thursday ain't far behind and

What we're doing in Las Vegas is something that this show has never done before Everyone is going it'll go it'll be piecemeal Greg and I are getting there a couple of days late It's a it's a quite an effort to get everything we're doing out there, but it'll be just about everybody on our show out there with multiples. And the point of it is to meet you, to talk to you, to get with our fans and do something fun around a seminal sports event. And the whole point of what it is that we're doing is for the employees here to have after two and a half years of very hard work, a week-long party in Vegas,

and to get and meet and greet our fans, which we know are coming in droves to spend this time with us because we don't do much stuff like this. I will also tell you that at lebatardaf.com, Juju's got a new collection of shirts out and they're the ones that everybody really loves if you want to see some of what Juju is doing there because we're gonna have merch and everything in Vegas. So we're looking forward to seeing you and we're encouraging you now to get out there

because the whole thing is filling up. We don't do stuff like this very often. Billy, we've waited long enough. How do we save baseball? Oh, that's a good question, Dan. I don't know if you've cut onto what's happening in football, but football's back. There were some down years,

people vowed to go away from football. Ratings didn't indicate that any of that happened, but football was gone for a little bit, and then it came back because of love. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey have brought football back. Their love seems to have brought new fans into football. It's pushed away some fans that say they're going to stop watching that have not stopped watching.

So I was thinking, we've tried everything possible in baseball to fix baseball. We tried the warning tracks were made of trampolines. We tried magic at bats. We've tried all of these things. None of it has caught, even the ponds in the outfield haven't caught on. So what does baseball need potentially? What's wrong, Greg?

No, I'm just, I'm waiting. It's like a punchline coming. I'm wrapped with a punchline. Baseball needs a power couple. Baseball needs love. And baseball needs a celebrity it couple, I think, to get some interest back and to kind of bring in this crowd, this audience that is now watching football.

And I don't know if they know this, football is going to end in like two weeks and then baseball is going to get started. So there's going to be a new sport, but you need a couple to be invested in. So me and Jeremy were out here before the show and we were trying to figure out what is the perfect recipe for a couple that could help baseball? What do we need? Do we need a pop star?

Do we need a starlet of some kind? Like Beyonce? Well Beyonce's Mary. Well she's Mary. So that would be, it's a little difficult. It's a little difficult. Scandal, you can throw some scandal in. That's the part that would be nice

is if we can get a scandal wrapped up in this as well then you can really get the ball rolling and get some eyeballs on the game. We almost, we were close. Cole Tucker, the minor leaguer, who didn't really work out as a prospect, he I believe is married now to Vanessa Hudgens. But she's also kind of B-list star at this point.

So that one didn't really hit the way that we needed to. So we're trying to figure out who is the pop star that can date a baseball player. I think Bryce Harper trying to steal Taylor Swift away from Travis Kelsey would be the player. He's also married. And he's married. Then there's Harper.

The problem is when infidelity comes in, then you have to choose a side and it complicates things. We're trying to hope for someone who's not married to be involved in this, if at all possible. Makes sense. Yeah. Floating out there, Dua Lipa? Yeah, Dua Lipa.

Ooh, I like that. Dua Lip is you know a big celebrity a big huge star at the time We think maybe become the internet Greg if I were Taylor Swift. Oh, I would lease myself out to No, no Okay, it's a money-making venture for her here. We're going nothing How I hope to know I Oh. OK, it's a money-making venture for her. Here we are. Nothing is opposite of how I hoped it would. No, I know she doesn't need the money, but if she did, imagine she makes a phone call to Rob Manfred. I'm going to do for baseball what you did for football.

That's what I'm going to say if I'm Taylor Swift. I'm dating Juan Soto. I'm going to do for you what I did for the NFL. I don't believe her. For half a season, maybe less. Right. Okay. And who fits the bill?

Who pays for this? Baseball. I know why are we doing this. MLB. That's why he's going Rob Manfred. Yeah, exactly. One more to the top. Just take it right out of the room.

What do you think the budget should be? What's the price? You know, five million bucks? Five million. For half a season? No, no, for a month. But maybe that's like one concert, maybe. Or two, that's two shows.

It's to be negotiated, but she's worth it. Look what the NFL has gotten out of Taylor Swift. We're looking for true love. Is Juan Soto married? We'll find out. Weren't there some estimates of... 330 million, I believe. That's what Taylor Swift has generated for the NFL 3. Incredible.

Just by showing up. Five million would be a great deal for Major League Baseball. It would be. That's how they like to do things. I met 50 million. Oh, you met that? Well, now it's better. Yeah, 50 million and a free bat.

This went as poorly legal slugger. A free bat. I thought this was going gonna go a lot differently when we were talking, we were shopping it out there. This was not the goal at all. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to steer the conversation away from where we go. To leasing out Taylor Swift.

Leasing out was probably a bad phrase only for to use. If you were to rephrase it, what would you say? Borrowing. Oh, worse. Yeah. Taylor Swift's a bright business woman. You know, she's eligible to do whatever she wants with her name, image, and likeness.

Thank you for giving her that permission. Yeah. No problem. This is a nightmare. It's a nightmare because you talk about workshopping it, and at one point, I do remember the idea of Elton John dating Bruce Boatsheet. But unfortunately, we never got there.

No, that was Tony LaRusso. Yeah, we never got there. Never got there. Well, you're trying to get there, but then Greg had Taylor. Elton John is in a long time relationship. So, ineligible. But that, yeah.

Eligible. Want so to not married has a girlfriend. Hello. Oh. Ha ha ha ha. Available. Oh, what? That's available? You know, you don't know what the relationship is. Girlfriend can mean anything.

It can be serious. It can be casual. You're right. It can be long standing. It can be recent. Maybe they just met a week ago. We don't know that. When you had a girlfriend back in the day, Greg, did you ever have like multiple girlfriends

because it wasn't that serious? Multiple meaning two. Sounds like a yes. It's a lot easier to get away with that back in the day. At the same time. Oh, that should be your next back in my day. Yeah, adultery. It was a lot easier. You can have an entirely separate family back then. Move to another town two miles down the road.

Back in my day, I'd go on vacation to my employer. Wouldn't know if I was alive for two weeks. That is a great back in my day, I'd go on vacation to my employer. Wouldn't know if I was alive for two weeks. That is a great back in my day, a gulp. Hey, I'll do that. Yeah, that's a good one. Five million. Tell us more about your scandalous dating habits. It's a true story that I was in a long time permanent, not permanent, but full-time relationship with a young woman. This is Inou Eloune and proof that Lebertas is a young woman. habits. It's a true story that I was in a long time permanent, not permanent, but

full-time relationship with a young woman. This is Inou Alouna proof Dan Lebatard show in the Stugas. Gambling by DraftKings. Dan Lebatard. He said while you were off there, while the connection was bad, he had mentioned that you have lost a lot of weight and that he admires that. What got into you? Why why did you decide I thought it was all I thought we enjoyed being about the munchie yeah oh it's luring again okay the connection is bad again unfortunately back to Magnus okay back to Magnus for Magnus and this is going about as well as it could go thank you Billy again for laughing in my face. Stugatz! I mean, I have a sense of words here. Can you actually... Yes, we can hear you. Hello.

Yes, sir, action. Hello. Action! Man, I'm really sorry. This is literally the worst way to ever do this. This is burning my heart that this is happening, but if you can hear me, just understand I'm sorry. This is the Dan Levitar Show with Stugatz. Start of the day, start of the day. It is the start-lebatar show with us two gods. of the day, it is the start of the day.

Today's remarkable stat of the day is brought to you by Venmo and PayPal. This one comes courtesy of Josh Dubau of the Associated Press. With the 49ers and Chiefs having no Alabama players on their active roster, a remarkable streak will continue. No player who finished college at Alabama. That's important. No player who finished college at Alabama has scored a point in the Super Bowl. Players from 143 other colleges, ranging from the Coast Guard, which has a few us with one point, to Miami with 84, the most have scored in the Super Bowl. No members of the Crimson Tide, despite their dominance,

have scored in the Super Bowl. No graduating members. Correct, like Jalen Hertz would have been eligible, but he finished as a sooner. But who graduates these days? Not even graduating. Your college career ended while you were at Alabama. Finished your college career at Alabama. So like you did there for the draft

while you were in Alabama. That's shocking. That's like one of the most surprising stats of the day we've had in a really long time. The only reason I don't find it shocking is because Alabama's players are too good to complete school. They go out to the pros early. There are plenty.

No, no, no. It's not completing school. It's finishing their college career at Alabama. Yeah. They just had to the pros early. There are plenty of them. No, no, no, you're not understanding. It's finishing their college career at Alabama. Yeah. They just had to go last T they played at Alabama. They don't have to graduate. They can declare as a junior.

And you haven't, anyone who's finished their career at, okay. People who didn't transfer away from Alabama. You could leave college early. I said this part was important. Yeah. So like, let's say you finished as a junior and you went to the NFL.

But you finished your career at Alabama. So two and not Jalen Hertz. None of those players have scored a point in the Super Bowl since whatever. Well Jalen Hertz, everybody finishes college career at Alabama. Correct, yeah. Got it. My bad, thank you for the clarification.

No player that picks his head up on Sunday night football and says You know so-and-so left guard Alabama crimson tide they've never scored a point. I Appreciate all of the clarifications Another clarification from earlier in the show that I have to make the caricature that Greg Cody is objecting to, he smeared the name earlier of Angel Resto while trying to compliment him, but saying his fees are exorbitant. Angel Resto has since texted me,

I never received payment from Greg Cody for anything that I made for him. I mean, lower the fees. I mean, perhaps we get a payment. The Stugatz is strong in you, Greg Cody, complaining about fees you did not pay angel I'm talking to you directly right now liar

no I think I paid him I think you know I'm gonna get my staff on it right my staff is on it uh... they're checking into it as soon as I alert them so we're gonna rectify this situation, Angel. Well, you just called him a liar. Right. And how does a rectification happen? Well, pardon me.

Five dollars from before. You owe $10 now. To be accused of not paying a bill is ridiculous. I was late on my calmly, the racehorse bill once and got a nasty letter from team Baller. But this is worse because Angel did a great job on my logo, even we're thinking of redesigning. But I thought we paid him.

I will check with Chris. You owe $10 right now in fines. No, he charged me a lot more than that. It's more than $10. $10 for the fines for the five. I wish it was only ten dollars. But you owe Angel ten thousand. You owe ten dollars here for coughing into the microphone. I thought it was five bucks. You've done it twice. I don't recall the first time. It was in the first ten minutes of what we were doing today. You never happened to do it. You liar! You've mentioned that. Did you maybe give it to Christopher and tell him to pay and maybe it disappeared?

And he pocketed it? Yeah, possibly. I think that's exactly what happened. Wow. I gave him cash. I was going to send him directly to wherever Angel lives. Yeah. I don't believe he did it.

Angel likes dealing cash. No, we're going to get to the bottom of this, Angel, if you're listening. Seriously, if you haven't been paid, you will be paid. He just called him a liar. He just called him a liar. I was kidding. That's my impression is to, I'm be paid. He just called him a liar. He just called him a liar. I was kidding. That's my impression is that I'm defending myself. That's my go-to.

I'm defending myself. Same. Then I do my due diligence. If I find out that Angel's right, and it was just some terrible oversight, I'm certainly glad he alerted me to the faux pas. Still got to. Speaking of being alerted to something, something that escaped my attention, because a lot of people complain over many, many years that I am always beating on the same drum, race-related

drum. But Roy Wood Jr. pointed something out to me that I had not noticed, that absolutely represents progress, hiring progress when it comes to football. Bill Belichick, that job replaced by in-house candidate who had relationships with the team. Michigan football, that job replaced by in-house candidate without going around and interviewing a bunch of people, but the greatest sign of progress. Those are two pretty good ones, two gods, to go from Harbaugh and Belichick to you're not you're not outsourcing a bunch of different interviews. You're just hiring a guy that you know, because you have the relationships with him and it's a black guy.

And that does represent progress, but not as much as this. The Atlanta Falcons said no to Bill Belichick and hired a dude named Raheem. That is, we don't even need the Rooney Rule anymore. Like once, put it on the pole, please, at Levitard show. Do you need the Rooney Rule anymore when Belichick loses a job to Raheem? And a retread head coach, because Raheem Morris had an opportunity once at that position before,

and it's hard to get a second chance despite the success. I mean, we were constantly wondering why Lovie Smith hadn't been hired a second time. We were always wondering why Jim Caldwell hadn't been hired until he got hired again by the Detroit Lions. But I actually do think the Rooney Rule has finally figured it out by incentivizing you hiring minority candidates developing developing those candidates into an attractive commodity that another Organization may want to scoop up and then you getting draft compensation

And you don't need to look any further than Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan when you look at their staffs It's among the most diverse in the sport. Now what is happening with Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan? They're known as king makers. Everybody wants someone that is adjacent to Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh. It's how Brandon Staley seemingly comes out of nowhere and gets a head coaching job. So these are teams that have a very unique approach to the draft and draft capital. They don't really care for it. They know that they can pluck a Pukinakua later on and now as part of their strategy they will just develop minority

candidates to the point that they'll get a comp pick in the third round and that'll replace the draft capital that they've used to acquire a proven commodity at a position of need. We're finally seeing real results with the Rooney Rule. Except for Eric Biennamy. What is happening there? Why can that guy, I need someone to do a deep dive, Seth Wickersham if you're listening, onto why it is Eric Biennamy is not getting a job, but Daniel right because if I told you 10 years ago

Bill Belichick was gonna leave the Patriots six Super Bowl rings and a team would not hire that person Because they were hiring a guy named Raheem. You would have left me out of the room Well, let's let's explore something here for a second because one of the things that I do find interesting and how easy it is for people at microphones to explore something here for a second because one of the things that I do find interesting and how easy it is for people at microphones to criticize anything that takes time to correct itself. I think of the Knicks now because a lot of people were complaining about the changes that they made and they've made the correct changes.

They still haven't gotten the star, but now they are in a better position than they have been at any time when this management team came in they came under a great deal of duress because jail and brunson's not good enough but jail and brunson is good enough i don't know whether he's good enough to carry a team to the finals but now they are credible enough for the first time this century to attract something that will finish deep in the playoffs. You have expectations for it and they fixed the New York Knicks. But the amount of noise around the New York Knicks,

because they inherited 20 years of failure, whether it's the Rooney Rule or the New York Knicks, these things take a minute and microphones don't wait a minute to criticize. And you can absolutely say that the NFL has done some of the hard, heavy lifting on something to at least improve, because it hasn't been corrected yet, but at least improve what was a great deficiency that the league had and that it had a blind spot about. You mentioned the NBA and the New York Knicks and yesterday we were talking about the decline in the NBA's ratings as all the other sports go up. The NBA has an issue. And the NBA have often made fun of the Knicks. Everyone says the league needs the New York Knicks.

Well over the last 35 years the Knicks haven't done much of anything, and yet the league is in a real healthy place. Well, they could use the Knicks being good now. That could actually be a nice shot in the arm. So, the timing might work out for this league. But you remember how loud it was, right? When everyone took over, the Knicks were selling their soul to get in the agent business, because the agents are the power brokers, the way they were gonna fix this is by getting the free agents finally,

because they have a bunch of brokers who have relationships, real relationships with players. But that's not how they did it, Stu Gotts. They've done it through shrewd team building. And they did it with a father-son relationship with Rick Bronson. I think of anything people, nick fans are disappointed that the agents that are now running the nicks

are not able to get a big superstar but they have done a very good job of putting together a very good they've done the harder thing at the end of the district of god's no probably not yet and you need the superstars but they built it the hardest way which is architecturally versus just getting a relationship i thought when they were getting leon rose and

west when they were getting relationships i don't want west yes when they were getting that thank you stew got you got it i was surprised that you came with that one worldwide and yes he uh... what but i thought that they were trafficking in building relationships to free agent power. That's not how they built it. They've built something that's strong and has Taj Gibson again. Ten day contract. I mean, they did tamper with Jalen Brunson.

They got dinged a second round pick for it, but they were found to have tampered. But that's the best thing they've done. I don't think anyone thought Jaylen Brunson, I didn't. Could be a number one player, like lead a team, be the best player on that team, but he's done it. The funniest part about the people that they hired is they didn't lean on those relationships. They leaned on a former backup point guard's relationship with his son to convince him to come over.

We'll take it. I mean.