The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Adnan Virk Takes Out David Samson (feat. Adnan Virk & Lucy Rohden)

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

The REAL Adnan Virk is here and he is here to take out David Samson for tanking his podcast. Then, Adnan shares his thoughts on Timothee Chalamet and Mad Dog's meetup at the "A Complete Unknown" premiere in London, dishes out his credentials as a movie reviewer, and eulogizes Bob Uecker right as the news breaks that he has passed away. He also has all of the news you need on the upcoming Golden Globes. Plus, Lucy is here as Dan and the crew try to determine how she can complete some challenges to pay off her fine debt AND get to the Super Bowl. She also shares why it might not be a smart move to count out Notre Dame. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. What's up everybody? Your boy is back from paternity leave and I have a very important announcement. UFC 311 MMA Hangout is back at Kassatiki live and in person at the number one UFC bar on the planet, Kassatiki. We'll be watching UFC 311. That's Islam Akashev versus Armen Tsarukyan number two.

We've got the Bantamweight title also in line between Marabdawal Ashvili and we've got Umar Nomaga made of undefeated. Plus, we've got a banger to open all that stuff up. Yerpa Hoska versus Jamal Hill, 10 PM Saturday night at Casa Tiki Live. If you want to pull up on the boys or YouTube, Twitch, Twitter, wherever you watch the MMA Hangout, support us. We love you. 2025, big year. We're back. Let's go. This episode of the Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gz is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Yesterday, I was lamenting why it is that Chris Sims, Chris Sims unbuttoned, that Chris Sims can't be on NBC

exactly the same person he is on God Bless Football or roaming around Earth in a way that makes me feel like Chris Sims should be allowed to smoke a cigarette on television if he indeed smokes, because he's hiding his real self from us and only shows it to us on Chris Sims Unbuttoned. Adnan Virk is a similar creature. I really like Adnan Virk.

I've liked him for a long time, but the real Adnan Virk is a hell of a lot more interesting than the guy who hosts Amazon Prime Monday Night Hockey. But I don't get the real Adnan Virk is a hell of a lot more interesting than the guy who hosts Amazon Prime Monday night hockey. But I don't get the real Adnan Virk on television. I get great at television Adnan Virk. Amazon Prime Monday night hockey hoes. I know everything about hockey. I'm charming.

I'll do television. But my secret side? Oh, you'd love that. My dark underbelly? God, the comedic timings I have. If I could free that man on television, I'd be a free man artistically and not be the slave to the sports gods of broadcasting. Do I have anything wrong here, Adnan Burke? Because this is why I'm bummed.

I'll tell you why I'm bummed, okay? It's not just that I have not been able to unleash the real you on the American public in a way that would be appalling and delightful. It's that I've tried to combine you with David david samson talk movies and kids don't want to hear about you guys talking about back to school with rodney danger field in nineteen eighty six uh... and so i haven't been able to make you siskel in ebert the at but but i just heard you being on boarded by chris cody and you talk and i

just heard david samson is pissed and it's all i heard and and and i don't know what he's pissed about I don't know what's happening with you and David Samson but I've been trying to combine you for a while at least in part because I think that that Oscars party that you guys did one night was I mean that is one of the best things metal arc has done I had so much fun around what you guys made of content. I want to be something that covers the Golden Globes I think we're out of time with Adnan. Thank you for stopping by No, Adnan because

He hasn't spoken in three minutes. Alright, so all of that said I really want to show the people your personality so I'm going to talk for five straight minutes That's like Bill Maher. That's how he does it on Club Random The narcissism gets so good sometimes that you end up talking over your guests Adnan, what's happening with our Oscar party and why is Samson pissed? So, Dan, great to see you as always. By the way, I look forward to the South Beach sessions with Andy

Garcia. I hope it did not bite your ear. There's a dated reference to Joey Zaza and Godfather 3. With regards to David Samson, listen, I'm going to be as candid as possible and I'm doing this because we're friends. We're genuine friends and I love you. And I love me and Cody and Mike the entire show. Here's the issue with Samson. It's come to light that he basically

is the reason cinephile no longer exists. So I respect him at Samson. Like I really do. Like I think he's done a lot of great things in his career. But I can't respect him for what he did to my podcast. I did 336 episodes of my podcast. It came out of my heart. It was a deep love and passion they have for cinema.

And because he's small and diminutive and he couldn't take that, he went behind my back to John Skipper and to Bimel and he got the podcast canceled. I don't know how he did it, but it was Machiavellian and it was Samsonian. And I'm probably giving him too much credit by giving him his own adjective.

Because again, I give him credit. He got it done. He wanted me out and he got me out. So congratulations, David, you did it. You got my podcast canceled and nothing personal survives. But I know what you did to me. And let's just say chickens come home to roost. I'll leave it at that.

Wow! Whoa! Whoa, wait a minute. That is the greatest threat. Shannon Sharp does it his way to Kirk Herbstreet and Adnan Virk does it his way, firing about. Like that is a, that is company on company crime right there. I have not heard any of that.

Hold on, Dan, and I'm gonna say this. Because Adnan is a cinephile, I know he's quoting Malcolm X. Yes! In the Spike Lee movie, Malcolm X. What are you talking about, the JFK assassination? That's fine. Yes.

He sounds ridiculous saying it. Oh, you don't see the difference between Malcolm X saying it and Adnan Burke saying it to David Sampson. Denzel Washington as Malcolm X. Exactly, to a means point, I'm not really quoting Malcolm X. I'm quoting Denzel doing Malcolm X, but go ahead. No, it's fine. Just, I wanna do a Golden Globes recap with you i want to talk to you

about mad dog and his desperate begging to meet timothy chalamet ending up in him meeting timothy chalamet in a way that all the corporate entities work together to make uh... chris russo stu gots like you get to just get to the top and start asking for things and they'll start happening for you because you're shameless. So I texted mad dog who's a colleague of course at MLB network prior to the film being out because at the winter meetings in Dallas. I'm not sure that was necessary or appropriate but I did text mad

dog and I said hey listen I don't want to burst your bubble. I've seen a complete unknown and I understand you're raving about it like this is the greatest films in Citizen game but it's not. I didn't back, he said, what do you mean? I said Timothee Chalamet is fantastic. He's a superb young actor. He can make films for art house audiences and also for big box office. So he can do Dune too, but he can also do Call Me By Your Name. And he's excellent as Bob Dillon, particularly the fact he sings his own music, which James Bangold, the

director with Walk the Line, also had Joaquin Phoenix sing as Johnny Cash and Reese Witherspoon as June Carter Cash, Reese Witherspoon won on Oscar. So I gave him credit. But the film itself, I go, man, I gotta be honest with you, man, it's a fairly conventional musical biopic. And I said, going into that film, I didn't know a whole lot about Bob Dylan, aside from the fact he's enigmatic, he's moody and kind of a prick. And I came out of the movie and I said, yep, still all the things that I thought. I understand what the purpose of the film is. And he's very angry. He hasn't seen the film, and I can tell. You keep talking.

This is December 4th. You haven't seen the movie. You don't get the screeners like I do. You're not a member of the Critics' Choice Association. You're just loving this movie. That's what's cheapened it by not. That's where it's deserved. That's where...

That's exactly where it is. What are your credentials? Go ahead. Please tell me again your credentials. Tell them again. Go credentials. Tell them again. Go ahead. Say that again. I remember the Critics Choice Association.

I've said 85 films throughout the year, but prior to their release, I get to see these films. Matter of fact, I get the Brutalist DVDs sent to me, which is one of my favorite films of the year. I get the screenplay of Challengers, which as you guys know, because I'm a tennis guy, I quite enjoy the film seeing tennis on the big screen. I mean, I get vinyl.

My crime would love this. I got Conclave the album. Like it's just, these things get sent to me because of the position which I hold. Okay. So Mad Dog, but again, I give him credit much like David Sampson. Mad Dog figured it out. He's like, I will just bloviate about this film as if it is the greatest musical biopic ever. And I will just, I will worship the altar of Timothee Chalamet who is having a moment and is now apparently dating Kylie Jenner who we saw at the Golden Globes so again hats off Mad Dog at the London premiere it was surreal to see him there he's dappin up Chalamet and hugging him and stuff like it's awesome it's great for him you just have the odds movies not that great and

Chalamet is not gonna win the Oscar we know how to what Mad Dog says and then I have a question for you because you said it's not that great. What is an example of a great biopic, particularly of a musician? Because I feel like you're right. They're all kind of blah. I remember when Rami Malek won for the... Bohemian Rhapsody, a joke. And I was like, this movie is basically so a bunch of people who grew up listening to the Queen could relive those songs.

It was so like distorted. It was like, some of like the situation, like, hey, we will rock you. Like, hey, that's a song. And then that's not how it happened. None of that happened like that. But it just allowed people the nostalgia of like, I remember that song when I was in high school

or middle school or whatever, and they sang it. So what, because you watch so many of these, what is an example of, oh, this is actually really good? Yeah, great question. So that would be particularly right. The problem was it was so sanitized. People that know Queen go, this is not the Freddie Mercury.

Like there's none of the bisexuality, there's none of the sex and the drugs, it's just the rock and roll. So like, why are we doing this? So at least they give Elton John credit with Rocket Man. That film would start, Edgerton, that was a warts and all biopic. I didn't think entirely successful,

but at least it was more authentic to the story. I'll give you two. I think Ray's a really good biopic. Taylor Hackford's a good director. I thought Jamie Foxx was immersive in the performance, and I thought I learned about Ray. I learned and I got to see, again, the Warts and All depiction, the womanizing,

the bad behavior in addition to the musical genius. And I also think Mangold, who directed A Complete Unknown, did a much better job with Walk the Line. Like, I thought that was a genuinely stirring musical biopic. Johnny Cash is a fascinating character. It was one set of him. He walked with God but partied with Satan. And I thought he was able to nail that dichotomy in the movie that Cash is a guy who was a believer, but also had a serious drug problem. And that Reese Witherspoon playing June Carter Cash really was it saintly in terms of bringing about his rehabilitation.

I think sometimes what happens when you have these as they call it cradle to the great biopics we need to show in the person's born and go right to their death this always happened and with a completely no they're not doing that they're showing four years of Dylan's life when he's making these critical hits and apparently sells up by going electric it's a different approach but I just didn't think it was that successful given the degree of difficulty I asked this question sincerely in the history of difficulty, I ask this question sincerely. In the history of made movies like this, that a main actor would take and try to, you know, Hollywood up, is there a biopic creature less likely to have any interest in this being done on him than Bob Dylan in the history of like cinema and art and music and everything else like wouldn't Bob Dylan be the most likely reputation lead absolutely hate

in the history of human being celebrity that this movie is being made about him. The only one I could think of data for just going to like any discipline of creative arts might be JD Salinger and catcher in the right guy famously a guy who is an anonymous lose it. creative arts might be jd salinger and catch on the right guy famously a guy who is anonymous lucid no but not right no a famed recluse this this is a this is purposeful

this misremembers history so much to have this actor tried this role for an artist who would think this the most despicable thing in the history of capitalism and commerce like i think that he ike what what would Bob Dylan say honestly he really feels about the doing of all this? I've seen his, well, you can parse whether or not he was being honest, but I've seen him praise the performance of Shalem.

Correct, Mike's right. I didn't say anything about the movie, but he did say Shalem did a hell of a job. So I don't know if he's just being genuine and kind to Timothee, but yeah, I can't imagine sitting through the film enjoying it. No Direction Home, which is a brilliant Scorsese documentary about Bob Dylan. Again, you get the sense that he's so reluctant and so recalcitrant to have any sort of examination of his life. He doesn't want

to talk about it. He doesn't care about it. And you're right. He's on the short list of people who I just think have zero interest in this adulation. Spoiler alert, the film ends with the fact mention that Dylan got a series of awards and never bothered to show up To the ceremony like he's been gotten like the Congressional Medal of Honor. It's a cap. I'm good He has zero interest in these types of topics and I guess that makes him true to his art But again, I just don't understand why he needs to be so gruff about it Dylan praising Chalamet's performance This is Dwayne Wade liking the statue, right? Right, that's that's what I just don't understand How any of it is allowed

to exist by America. Like Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan supposed to represent art and would find all of this offensive, just all of it. I would think, or am I just attaching what people He's really good at having people assume that about him. Yes. Because they create a mythology or because it's so? Well, because he's quiet, people build a mythology around him. Like Kwey Leonard. Yeah. Exactly around him. Like Kwey Leonard. Yeah, exactly. It's exactly like Kwey Leonard. Apple time, apple time.

Yep. He's the host of Amazon Prime Monday Night Hockey, and I really, I feel a bit of shame that I'm not out here talking more about Spencer Knight being a god and the Panthers and the Bruins playing amazing hockey. The sport is moving very fast for the regular season. It needs to slow down. Just all of it needs to slow down. I need to have a life. I cannot care about why it is that Winnipeg's power play is so

good or Connor McDavid is slightly less than what I thought he was. Dan, don't worry. We'll slow down for two weeks in which USA and Canada finally play with NHL players for like the first time in a decade during the Four Nations Challenge. I love the fact Mike Ryan is going to be at the Four Nations. I think that's fantastic. Mike Ryan, special correspondent. Mike knows I'm not working for Amazon. I might just go to Montreal. You know what?

Honestly, I think it's going to be an incredible tournament to see the best on best with the... And by the way, for all my American friends out here, USA is favored. They have the better team, certainly in goal. Connor Hellebuyck, not only is going to win his third Vesta, he might win the Heart Trophy this year. He's been incredible.

He's got more shutouts than losses. And the fact that he's standing tall in the U.S. net, I think it's going to be a hell of a tournament. Candice still has a ton of offensive firepower. Speaking of the Florida Panthers specifically, Dan, one of my favorite moments this year on Amazon Prime is getting an interview with Paul Maurice who says he's the anti-Bob Dylan. He is as good a quote as you'll meet. He's self-deprecating, he's funny, he's charming, one of my favorite people in sports.

Moe's the best. Adnan, before you get out of here, Golden Globes, do you wanna give me as much information as you can? Let's speed the music up on him as well. You know what, we did this to Diana Racini. Yeah, he doesn't talk fast enough. No, so this is, well this is the thing. Here's the thing, I don't know what exactly are the inner workings of him and Samson,

I will have to find out the details on. How much more apparent can I make this clear to you Dan? He gets to the file cancelled. Now he's not showing up because he's a baby. Well, what happened showing up? What did he not show up for? You you listen you're on the text and you asked him to come on, but I haven't seen my phone because I've been busy talking at you. Okay. Well the text literally says I'm not coming on the show today. You can read it right now. That's a trademark bedside manner that we love so much about David I'd still love to do the Oscar show with or without Samson. We have plenty of capable people there Mike Ryan's great I mean Al has et cetera

I don't know why we need David Samson's authority to do an Oscar show for the record. I well Because he's gotten near the money Key word there is money. Oh, no. What is money? I'll give him that What do you mean? What have we done? We I need help with the money. We're arguing over t-shirts I asked you people to handle all this for me. We put a wolf in charge of the head house make music people to handle all this for me we put a wolf in charge of the head house music Bob Dylan will be disgusted by this conversation Adnan Virk Golden Globes

recap as much information as you can give us as fast as you could give it because the real Adnan Virk cares about this spoiler alert more than hockey don't ever say that he loves you and more than tennis and he loves those things no you love the arts you love getting those little gifts from Scorsese Actually actually guys I have to bring the fun down But I do want add an end to weigh on weigh in on this and actually ties two of his passions together cinema and and baseball Just came across wire Bob Euker has passed away. Oh Yeah, that's devastating news.

Mike. He's like an all-time legend man. You know, it's funny for a generation of people. They'll know him just because of Major League and he's brilliant movie and he ad lived everything in that film. Bob Costas has told me that who's of course a friend of the show and a dear friend of Bob's but Bob Euker if you didn't know Major League, you didn't know Mr. Belvedere, which was on the show as well. If you just listen to him as a baseball guy,

he was absolutely brilliant. He actually gets way too much credit for how funny he is and how entertaining a personality is and not enough credit for what a great baseball announcer he was. And he was still calling Milwaukee Brewers games. And even after this past season, when Craig Kelsen went to the Cubs, they thought Milwaukee would go down a step.

No, they're still in the playoffs. And Bob Euker was calling playoff games and still bringing it and was such a joy to listen to. Oh man, that's a tough blow for baseball fans, man. You can have Tim Kirchner on Tim Can Tell You Stories for years. He said the greatest master ceremonies ever was Bob Euker. He's just so funny and so charming. And that's a big loss for the sport of baseball. Dan, now you go. Meantime Demi Moore wins her first Golden Globe.

That's her first major award in 45 years of being an actress. And again, I'm not the one to say that she should have been lauded with laurels for a few good men. She was Oscar nominated for Ghost. GI Jane, of course, is a big box of a set. Striptease, less successful. But give Mike Ryan credit.

He was the first one that texted me in Samson, because you guys are going to watch the substance. I was like, eh, horror movie, Gonzo filmmaking, let's give it a shot. And both of us, all three of us, matter of fact, enjoyed it a lot more than we probably should have. And it's not a film that would normally get awards type consideration because it's too gruesome, too gory,

but it's audacious, it's challenging, it's got heavy themes to hit on when it comes to women's issues. And Timmy Moore does give a go for book performance. I see the Golden Globes recognizing her. Although I'd love to see Mikey Madison still win the Oscar for Enora, which is one of my favorite films of the year. And also credit to The Brutalist. Again, Adrian Brody might go down in history as the worst two-time best actor winner ever. Think about this. He won best actor for The Penis at the age of 29. He was the youngest ever best actor winner. He's now the favorite to win for The

Brutalist. Again, I will show the DVD here again. And I love the film. Brady Corbett might win best director. He's the favorite guy Pierce is sensational He's gonna get on for best morning actor, but but Adrian Brody if I see you guys give me five iconic Adrian Brody performances You're not gonna be able to do so and you could throw out Pat Riley and you know playing a Lakers coach in showtime honestly Kong this is what we're doing Adrian Brody, and he's gonna win two Oscars It's crazy to think about Robert De Niro has one best actor Oscar ever for Raging Bull

Adrian Brody is about to win his second. De Niro could never be in Predators. It shifted the paradigm instead of the predator coming to earth He took a bunch of earthlings to his planet. Uh-huh Also, he was in fool's paradise. He did a good job in that Give me Brody on his way to an Oscar. Give me the joy that you get in your life, any kind of being able to wave at us that I get this DVD because of my movie credential. That's not what it is.

I'm just trying to establish credentials, Dan, because people say, who is this loud mouth? Who do you think you are that you get to opine about films? You're just some sportscaster at MLB Network. You're a hack, damn it. And I said, no, no, I'm not a hack. I'm a guy who gets sent the screenplay to challengers. There's like-

You're often worried about the show aging out. How many of our listeners know what a DVD is? I just, I can't believe that he's just waving it around. And I, what is the, like, give me- Dan, Dan, Dan, you flush flush it I flaunt it that's a difference what no I'm just asking you that what I what I want to know is if I give Ed in Burke the moment that he can show America what his credentials are and he could hold up in front of America let me show you America how

credentialed I am somebody sent me this and it's Robert De Niro sock or whatever it is like can they can you get it? Would you sniff daily as part of your morning mantra? What like what would the thing be? What would the one thing be? I have an unbelievable picture of Martin Scorsese in a director's chair on the set of The Irishman, and it's a gorgeous shot. I'm a big fan of that photographic look.

You know, imagine Levitard in Repose staring out at South Beach, but I don't get to see your face. I get to see you from behind. It's a gorgeous shot. Black and white Scorsese in the director's chair. Simply says director on the side of the Irishman. It's immaculate. I thought it was going to be a laser disc of Casino.

Actually, I do have some great criterion DVDs. It means right about that. And then good seeing you. He's the host of Amazon Prime Monday Night Hockey. If you wanna do fast 30 seconds of baseball, we can do it through a lot of speed. He can do it on, you saw what just happened. I thought, I'm a bit offended

that we just eulogized Bob Euker with that music playing right before you started it. Yeah, but we faded it down. Chris was on it and Adnan, I mean, man, was he ready for that as well. A pro, a pro! What a great O-bit. Dan, we're still waiting for your words on it. Adnan, I mean, man, was he ready for that? A pro, a pro. What a great O-bit. Dan, we're still waiting for your words on it.

I do have one more movie question because Nosferatu is a huge box office hit, but it's a little polarizing and the polarization basically comes down to one thing. Count Orlok has a mustache and a lot of people, they kept it secret and the reveal was kind of stunning. And I basically boiled it down to the people that didn't like Nosferatu didn't like the mustache. Was it in retrospect a mistake to put a mustache, a historically accurate mustache on Count Orlok?

Well, there's no question the movie's been polarizing. You're right, Mike. It's made a ton of money, which is a great sign for Robert Eggers, who you and I both appreciate as an independent director. He's a visionary. His films haven't made a ton of money, whether it's The Witch, The Lighthouse, or The Northman.

But this one's got people talking. And a friend of a friend said to me, how come Bill Skarsgård's not getting Oscar consideration? I said, well, maybe the fact that he's the monster. He goes, hang on a second. The awards, they love when they transform themselves, yes? Demi Moore transforms herself. Timothee they love when they transform themselves. Yes. Demi Moore transforms herself.

Timothee Chalamet transforms himself into Bob Dylan. So why does this guy not get credit for transforming himself into a monster, into Nosferatu? I said, all right, it's a fair point. I love the film, especially the cinematography. I'm a little mystified. It's been virtually ignored by all the major branches in terms of the acting categories.

Lily Rose, Dep, I thought was terrific. Best of all, as I said, the look of the film is amazing. Is the mustache the issue? Perhaps. But Eggers brings it. There's no question about it. Mike, I will take you up on your challenge as Adnan Virk leaves us, but I will ask Adnan Virk to tell me if I have anything wrong here because Tim Kirchhen and Adnan Virk are very good gatekeepers for baseball, baseball's history, and the things about it that are special. And yes, when someone dies at 90 now,

yeah, long life, we will not remember them correctly. But as it relates to Bob Euker, as a player, wherever the Trulogy resides, he was fine as a player, a known player, but the career that he had, 50 years after that that was being a clown prince face and voice for baseball that was almost eternally lovable everywhere it arrived in public and also Milwaukee can tell you a lovely dark undercurrent of a baseball man who lived with all of the insane bitterness is that come with

traveling on the road for fifty years following a ball team around and was great as a human being in a way that uh... ties him regionally to something but nationally through the movies as well to being a voice face and time for baseball that was allowed to age lovingly on radio of all places on radio right like it's a specific thing in a specific market with this a specific relationship with the years of a regional audience

uh... milwaukee is crushed today that this man a historic clown prince of representation to america through the movies and through baseball uh... a historic figure in the region that transcended sports. Yeah there's always some special about baseball on the radio Dan and again it's part of a bygone era for some but Tom Hammond's being inducted in the baseball Hall of Fame he's been the voice of the Cleveland Indians now guardians for decades and like you'll go back and listen to his calls the Roger Davis home run 2016 or any number of moments in the 90s Indians.

You're like, yeah, that really speaks to that locale and that generation. And similarly, as you said, for Milwaukee, this is small market team, right? In terms of attendance and payroll, they're in the 20s of a 30-team baseball league. And yet, Uke is the voice of summer for so many Wisconsinites.

We know how tough the weather can be in Milwaukee, but they get up to the lake in the summer, and they're listening to Bob Uuker call Brewers baseball. And if they had a night to day two, they've had some good runs. Obviously, the playoffs have been successful, but Bob Euker's voice, it will be inextricably linked to baseball for those people there. And again, on a national level, people at least heard him enough on NBC broadcast.

They know Major League just a bit outside and all the one-liners. At the age of 90, it was truly a life well-lived. And I'm telling you you this is not just because of people by people say these things a fundamentally humane and decent human being i've got a photo here of you guys blocking david samson out of the zoom not allowing him in the personal meeting room on my text here what is happening here i'm just looking at the, and man, what are you doing David Samson?

Why am I being sent? What is happening? Oh, you guys invited him and he says, I'm not coming on today. He just threw a tantrum. Yes, that's what I told you. Correct. I said, look, we're going to go on and talk movies,

even though, you know, I get stuff sent to me and I'm an actual critic and you're not, we'll still come on and do our bit. And he, and he said, he said, I'm not coming on today. I'm like, really? You're just going to take your ball coming on today. I'm like, really? You're just going to take your ball and go home? I'm like, OK, that's fine. Nothing per hashtag.

Wait to see. All right. We'll put you on next week. Thank you, Adnan. Appreciate the time. Thanks, guys. Love you, guys. This is a message from sponsor Intuit TurboTax.

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Stugatz. I hope he has the day he deserves. That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go f yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve. It's a great kind insult. Yes. It's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out. That's a less southern bless your heart. This is the Dunlavatar Show with the StuGats.

I've got a bit of a corporate problem on my hands. I've got a renegade star diva rising up the ranks of the media elite. She's getting on the field with the help of Ricky Williams. She's breaking rules. She's clawing her way to stardom and she thinks she doesn't have to pay fines around here. And I got into corporate trouble trying to sort of

like send an email to everybody. I was trying to be democratic. Let me send this to 13 random employees. Hey, Lucy killed somebody on the air. That's a $50 fine. She refused to pay it. I've never had anybody who just refuses to pay. Can we take it out of her paycheck?

Somebody vote, and then everybody ran scared. Oh no, you can we take it out of a paycheck somebody vote never been scared all you can take it out of a paycheck is fifty dollars there and and so i said no yet so then what she does is she kills the person and the company having fun because i want to your money and she should pay the fine but she's too big a star to control anymore and so now i have to get venmo involved the corporate sponsor and they're controlling the fine bucket and we have to respect the fine bucket

and she still hasn't paid the fifty dollars so lucy where are we i never saw you answer the email that i sent a sensitive thirteen people amin agreed that i did amin agree that you should have a taken out of your page paycheck fire i i i would say that she should willingly, voluntarily present it because that's the ethos of what we do here. But yes, should she disagree, take it out of her check. What was the democratic process?

Lucy, did you see that email chain? You didn't respond? You ignored the entire thing. Dan, do you really think I'm a star? That's so nice. Someone said they were close to me? and you ignored the entire thing. And do you really think I'm a star? No. That's so nice. Someone said they were close to me. That's really cool.

I didn't hear anything else you said. I stopped listening after star. Well, you have risen to stardom and you are evidently going to go to the biggest of games. Well, she wants to. No, no, I wasn't talking about the Super Bowl. I'm talking about Notre Dame. Are you not gonna be around Notre Dame, Ohio State? I would assume you are you not no, I'm going

What why did I got my big games? Why did you think the biggest of games was the super? I'm going to both big games. You're going to you're going to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm a star I get to go to both big games Well, you got to be fines those stars have to be fines Like you got you might as well come on reading a book and be AJ Brown. Like you gotta pay the fines. Jimmy Butler.

You gotta pay the fines. It's now sponsored. We have to respect the sponsors. I understand you don't respect the boss, you don't respect the company. You have to respect the sponsors. Jeremy, were you on this email chain? I asked 13 random people.

Well, no, you didn't put me on the email chain. You don't care what I think. Okay, but I asked, it was 13 random people and I got how many answers and one very purposeful omission Yeah, that's right. It wasn't one Jessica. Did you have a vote here? Yeah, did that come in on a Saturday because I saw it I was like Florida doesn't have same-day registration. So I don't think I was eligible for a vote. But we brought in a corporate partner that is literally made to make the fine system

even more convenient. Which they have. And yet, this is a culture problem, and she's just saying she's going to the Super Bowl, that's subject to corporate approval, so challenge, at least. Challenge. Let me ask the HR heads in the world,

is quid pro quo bad? I do love a challenge. I don't know what the challenge is gonna be. Do you keep the flag in your sock? Ooh, I have. What do you mean a challenge? Like the red flag. Havre, pay off the fine through unconventional means.

You can't ask an employee to give you part of their paycheck. Yep, that's right. But you can ask them to eat something really bad for them or do something that was like really physically tiring. And if she does that, then she can go to the Super Bowl. Yes, our company has a long checkered history with forcing people to do these things. I'll call it the Lucy Super Bowl Challenge. Oh, can we get a sponsor?

Venmo. Venmo. There you go, it works. Well, what's the challenge? And what's the ven... Is anyone going to tell Venmo? Like... Ah, they know.

They know. Ven knows. They listen. Okay, Venmo, Ven knows. What are the challenges? Because yes, we've got a dirty history here. When we did Freedom, there was a whole pepper thing. So what...

We're going to really ask her what the challenges should be? No, we have to present her with challenges. Let the audience pick. That's a good one. Oh. No. That's a good one. Yes, no, yes, yes, that's a good one. That's exactly the way to do it.

At least submit submissions and then we will choose one of those. The audience selects with a hashtag, Ven knows. Yeah, can you dress up like Jim Harbaugh as the Michigan coach and interview Buckeyes fans? Oh yeah, I'll do that. Ooh, can you dress up as Jim Harbaugh after he was taken by the dirty bubble

in the wild card playoff game this weekend? You're obsessed with this. I'll do that as well. It was like the greatest thing I've ever seen in my whole life. I just loved it so much. Change the game. We should petition, maybe have the audience petition

to get TikTok banned to punish Lucy. Yeah. Well, you laugh at her, but I feel like this is a very real pain. We're taking away a sugary addiction for her. Why, Lucy, it must not feel good. Also a stream of income. Yeah, that's the big one.

It must not feel very good to have everyone laughing at the idea that you've lost your TikTok. Yeah, well, I've also lost a huge portion of my income as well. And that's the part that really, really sucks. TikTok's creator program actually does pay decently well, but for me, TikTok has been what I've used to sort of, one, get this job.

Every job I've had is because I posted on TikTok and grew a following that way. It's how we get brand deals. It is a huge chunk of my income that is lost because the government doesn't want someone stealing our data even though if I were to go to another US based app, they're also stealing my data. It really, it really, really sucks

because like it's not just gonna like impact me financially. It's gonna impact so many people, so many small businesses, so many people who have made their living as creators it really does actually suck and i will miss my scrolling time to i want to get to the college football of the moment but just to explain to people what metal arc is trying to do in the modern age uh... the media is under siege information is under siege the rich people who run things want to spend how many billion on twitter so you can be where you are now

as Elon Musk taking over newspapers and even staring down Bezos with yeah you're gonna not have your newspaper say anything bad about Trump because the rich people are going to be in charge of the money and the media. This is about college football yeah. I hate that TikTok has taken a form of income from her that now makes me have to present challenges so that we can pay in this modern media age to send her to the super bowl because her income has been harmed and she doesn't pay fines and i can't take them out of her check live a question lucy have you explored using red note now you may need to learn mandarin but apparently they pay well over there

i have not used it yet but I have seen lots of videos of people using it yet. One, they're teaching college football there, so I think I could be really, really good at that. I think it's a little bit funny that everyone got together and they were like, fine, you're gonna take our app, we're gonna go to the even more Chinese app, the one that is specifically meant

for the citizens of China. We're gonna use that, please take my data. And you can't read the terms and conditions because it's all in Chinese. So you're like, fine, got it. Have my data, I don't care. I'm always usually so good about reading things too in a language that I understand.

That's my favorite thing about this whole thing is TikTok is stealing our secrets. And I'm like, and so like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk, those are the people we're supposed to trust with our data? Like, no, no, now it's safe. Oh, thank God. Did you talk about Elon Musk buying, perhaps buying TikTok?

Yeah, we did that yesterday. And we talked about how Pablo was smart enough to live at the time of Mark Zuckerberg at Harvard, but not smart enough to A, invest in Facebook in Facebook or B stop him from ruining the world Didn't he say he was like one of the first hundred people to sign up for? 199 The Facebook as it was called To rate one

Drop the Justin Timberlake great note He's the guy who invented Napster. That's my favorite part. It's like yo Some of you young people don't remember this. Napster was the first, like, this is how we get music for free. And it was glorious. It was awesome. Dude, there were no bugs, there was no viruses, everything came down pure and clean.

I was a king, I was a bootlegging king. Do you guys know that about my life? I used to bootleg music. You had the CD burners? Yeah, man, CD burners, walking around, man. I was selling them five bucks a pop, three for 20. I used to have a guy come to my old job and like with just a binder.

It's like, what movies you want here? And what do you want? Well, I wasn't movies. Movies was later in my life. Yeah. Early on. Unless you wanted to spend seven days downloading signs. Also, blank DVD writeables were a lot more expensive back then.

But yeah, man, Napster was such a thing. And so it's crazy, because now as I think of it all, it all is one continuous thread, Dan, right? You start with Napster, which wasn't even social media, it was just like, hey, how we got music, and then the guy who invented Napster is basically advising Mark Zuckerberg, who created Facebook, and Facebook turns into Instagram,

and Instagram is this thing in TikTok and here we are where Lucy is learning Chinese literally so that she can supplement her paycheck. Ooh, that could be a challenge, learn Chinese. I'll do it, I'll need it. I'd like that, you will have to say something in Chinese, yes, you will have to learn. Film a TikTok totally in Mandarin.

If you would like to submit a potential challenge for Lucy, tweet us at The Levitard Show with the hashtag Lucy Challenge. You ripping the Chinese government in Chinese for whatever. Don't make it worse. OK, very good. I'm glad we got close to the fire and then ran away.

Do a TikTok dance and then post soliloquy in Mandarin. And that's a good challenge. That is a good challenge. We will find out what the hashtag should be for this challenge to send Lucy... lucy to the super bowl because tick-tock has affected her income but she's still not paying the fines and i still don't need those fifty dollars so where i can't i don't have income anymore from tick-tock

where you can't that's fifty one dollars if you don't have the amount of money that the finest and now it's fifty one dollars that we should what are your credit card company the u.s. government should pay that. They took that from me. No, there's a multiple fine. There's a $1 fine for not paying or not having the fine. Should it be incremental?

Like I need help from Venmo on figuring out how we're doing all this. We need to please the corporate sponsor in these difficult media times. Do we have that sheet that has all the fines listed? Because I believe that's the new fine system, Dan. So what you're referring to is the old fine system, where you would have to be fined when you didn't have the fine money. Now that we have Venmo, and thank you Venmo, we have a new fine system.

It's on the screen for the people watching on YouTube and elsewhere. It's $1 for a mistake, $2 for coughing into the mic or having phlegm, $3 for pestering, which Dan, $5 for tone, Dan, also, you're not really great on that one, $7 for not listening, which Dan, $5 for tone, Dan also, you're not really great on that one. $7 for not listening, that's one for me. $10 for phone interruption, and $50 for death. Fines are doubled on Tuesdays when Greg Cody's here. Alright, speed up the music, Lucy. Give us the best that you have on all college football things

as we head into the biggest game of the biggest games as I try to cancel Martin Luther King Day to get Jessica to work on Monday and celebrate Notre Dame football on Tuesday. Are we going to be celebrating Notre Dame football on Tuesday? I think there's a better chance than people realize. Right now the line is what Ohio State minus eight and a half. I actually think that this game only goes two ways. Ohio State wins by 21. They're a very good team and when they're playing like not even their best but just

75% of their best they're pretty much impossible to beat but you've seen this season multiple times that Michigan game Will Howard has not played well up until the postseason He's been electric in the postseason but if Ohio State fumbles if Notre Dame is able to put them in a position where they're They're stuck in third downs and Ohio State is terrible on third down. I really do think Notre Dame has a chance to win this game. If it's close, I think Notre Dame will win through their defense.

If it's not close, it's not gonna go well. I think I did pretty decent. There's reports that the transfer portal opening up is gonna actually be pushed to after bowl season. This was an obvious thing that was under everybody's noses. I don't know why it took so long, but this should make everything easier, right, Lucy? Yeah, I believe there's gonna be a 10-day period after bowl season. All the coaches voted yes on this, so it's probably gonna move forward. I think this

is gonna make things so much easier. Specifically, you look at what happened with Penn State. They had to play the postseason without their backup quarterback because he needed to enter the portal. He's at Mizzou now and it like makes sense for both him to want to be able to continue to play for Penn State in the postseason and the playoff. But also know, hey, you're not going to have a starting job next year. It's probably a good idea to move on.

You had the incident with Marshall where they couldn't field the team because so many players transferred. This is going to eliminate a lot of that. Marcus Freeman hair, real or Beijing? Both. I don't want to say. The hairline's Beijing. Is that why they beat Penn State?

Because Penn State was making the coach was making jokes about the hair. I think James Franklin was instigating. I think he was being difficult to be difficult, and he hasn't earned that right yet But yeah the hair it it just sort of appeared and they didn't need it. He was so handsome and he was so handsome Lucy, thank you $51. Thank you Billy yes, you know what we've been talking about all season long. It's weird off. Yeah, how'd you guess? been talking about all season long. Smirnoff?

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We're gonna be there. Oh, yes. I can't believe we're by 59 already. Yeah. Time flies. It does, yes. We're old. I'm old.

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