The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: An Extra Minute With John Fanta

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

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We're bringing in college football expert, John. College football? Excuse me, college. Get your mind out the gridiron. My bad, it's hard. Well, I mean... Hardwood! John Fanta is also a football enthusiast,

but we have him here to talk about basketball. He is... He might be interesting to talk to you about the proposal that I just made to David Sampson, because, John, welcome to the show. You're a Browns fan, right, sir? Come on now. Where's the Cleveland Browns fan guy? Come on now. I'm waiting on my next quarterback here. I got the number two pick in the draft. Now, I don't know what we're

going to do. I don't think Cam Ward's not going to be on the table for me. But hope springs eternal. Do you want are you one who wants your door or would you rather go ahead and get a dual Carter or I guess or Travis Hunter is a possibility there also. So, you know what, guys, my belief system is always this. If you don't have it right at QB1, what does it really matter? But by the same token, at the number two pick, to me, Abdul Carter is such an overwhelmingly talented player that it's hard for me to pass him by.

When at number two, there are real questions then about the value of Chaudhuri in that slot in the draft. If they go and get him, I'm good with it guys, because I got to get that position right. And let's face it, I'm not saying that he is just but a year ago, we didn't have Jayden Daniels doing what he's doing. Yeah. And you can go right down the line of other cases in the in the National Football League. So I'm good with either route. I really am. All right.

Speaking of overwhelmingly talented, right now we got all one seeds, all chalk in the Final Four. And it's like, it's not just that they're one seeds. I think they're four of the best, excuse me, four of the top 10 Ken Palm teams ever in these Final Fours. Like how excited are we? Are you one of these guys who wishes we had one Cinderella in here?

Or are you super excited about the overwhelming amount of talent and great coaching that we have in this year's tournament? You know what, Dominic? My thing is, when I look at this lineup of teams, this is historic because the last time that we had it happen was 2008. And that's the only other time it's occurred.

That being Memphis, Carolina, UCLA and Kansas. Think about this. These four teams have a higher efficiency rating than 21 of the last 22 national champions. So I want to see the clash of the Titans. I want to see the best teams play each other. And it's gonna be fascinating to see this weekend in San Antonio where you have Duke the most efficient offensive team in the country against Houston the best defensive team in the country. Where you have Auburn in Florida and for the better part of the year Auburn was the number one team in the country. They've been the number one the most weeks. But they lost the last time they met Florida. The only time they've met Florida this year. And

it came at home inside Neville Arena. So there's a bunch of storylines. I truly believe this. We had it so good in the Cinderella Con the last couple of years. And while college sports is nuts and college basketball is wild, it's basketball guys. This is not like football in the trenches where the comparable to a Cinderella meets the heavyweight and gets blasted at the line of scrimmage and it's not a game. I think that Cinderella's carriage

is stopped at the BP or the shell. They're getting the gas tank up. And in 2026, we're gonna see that carriage run right back through. I do believe that, but let's not deny that sometimes when Cinderella has made it this deep in the dance at some point, they even turn back into a pumpkin in the tournament. These four teams make for quite the weekend in San-An. This toasted bracket update is sponsored by Jimmy John's.

They're finally here and they're hot. Try the new toasted sandwiches at Jimmy John's. Order one today. Nobody calls it San-An. They do now. We just kicked it off. They call it San-An right now. Do you do a bracket? Do I do a bracket?

Yeah. What kind of question is that? What do you mean? I didn't know if he did one. Does Mari read paternity test results? You're speaking my language, I love Mari. Do cows get milked? Come on now.

How did you do this year? I guess that's more a better question. How did your bracket turn out this year? Well, I had three of the final four. I wasn't gonna go chalk, chalk, chalk, chalk. I did think it was funny that the people who did and everybody ripped them on selection. Look, you can't just go all chalk.

But I did think the top of the country was overwhelmingly good. I thought Michigan State could end up making the Magic Cap in his 30th year to get there. I did okay. I did. Okay I thought UC San Diego was gonna make a run in this tournament. They you know, I talked with dusty May about this He's the head coach of Michigan and he's like when people say that that the Cinderella thing is dead He's like you see San Diego was a possession away from beating us All right, he's like it's basketball man

Like wait, I've been on the other side of that at Florida Atlantic when we made the improbable run. You just, you just simply never know what can happen in this thing. And that's why like, think about this fellas, shouldn't Texas Tech be in the final four? They were up by nine with, with 251 to go in the game, up by nine with 251. You wonder how the hell they lose that. The, um, the four teams that are here, and I alluded to the coaches earlier, two of them are 65 or over. Then the other two are 40 and under.

With the changing dynamics in college sports, I think if you would have asked me, I would have said, you know what? Only young coaches from here on out because of how this has all changed. What am I to make of the idea that Pearl and Sampson are in here with Golden and Shire? Couple of guys who are willing to adapt and accept the fact that their team's on the clock from two to five every day

and the other 21 hours of the day they're not. Cause that's our world now. Like it just is. It's different, different time, different place. And I think for like a guy like Bruce Pearl, he figured out, you know what, my football program's one of the best things I got going. We're going to make money off that. We're going to have cash. I'm going to do my very best to energize the sport of basketball.

We're in this climate right now where some of these basketball coaches, some of these football coaches like to get in some sort of a match where, who's better? Who's this, who's that? I think Bruce has done a brilliant job of kind of just making it a celebration of Auburn Sports and he has adapted and he's so open to doing media, he's willing to talk to people, these kids want to play for him, there's an energy around that. As for Kelvin Sampson, guys I gotta tell you, I'm amazed by the building job he has done. And I don't think anybody could have predicted this.

The last five years, they own 15 NCAA tournament wins. That's two more than anybody else. They're staggeringly strong. I mean, multiple final four trips, two final fours, four sweet 16s, three elite eights. This is at Houston, and they move into the big 12. They only take one loss the entire big 12. What do I credit for that?

Kelvin being an older coach can say things and do things with his players. I don't know if coaches under 40 can do because I don't think it resonates and I don't think it comes through the way. It's a different generation, but it is interesting in college basketball, where a Tom Izzo, a Rick Pitino, a Kelvin Sampson

can do and say things that maybe the Todd Golden, right, can't, or John Shire aren't saying in their practices, but also there are many coaches who have quit because I think they thought that message would get lost in today's times and really the older generation still certain guys are still able to do it. So it is a fascinating dichotomy, but I do think fellas we're in we're in a world where we're going to continue to see the younger coaches step up and thrive because they want

to be in this pro model relate to the kids model. John, that's really fascinating because, as you mentioned toward the end of your answer there, most older generation guys say, I can't coach them, I can't talk to these kids. I mean, I've talked to coaches and even, you know, NBA veteran players and say, man, if you, I mean, if you talk to them

the way you used to talk to us, like, you lose the kid forever. So what is it about Kelvin Sampson, about Coach Izzo, about Coach Pearl that they're still able to keep that old school style about them? They recruit the families. They recruit the families. They tell the parents here's what you're in for. I know you got a hard out so lightning round coming up real quick. Okay you ready? Great question. They say great coming up real quick. Okay, you ready? Great question.

It's a great question. Yeah, and I can give you an extra. I'll add an extra minute because you two have been fantastic. Okay, I appreciate it. We got an extra minute, guys. All right, here we go. So who is the team if you're parachuting into this tournament and you're watching the Final Four, who is the fan favorite?

Who should we be rooting for? And why is it Kelvin Sampson? Oh, it's Kelvin Sampson because he's never won, he's never won a national championship. I think when you haven't won a title, we're in this world where like, you have to back up your success with a ring. And it's like, well, it's six one game tournaments, not one six game.

You got to win six games in a row. He's preached his culture of toughness. People have given him flack at times for being limited offensively. It'd be an amazing story. I think it's his best chance to get that elusive title. What am I to make of this new tournament, the Crown? There's a whole other basketball tournament. Crown is yours?

Is that something that college basketball appreciates and respects already? Well, I think that it's an interesting tournament because it's coming during a week when a lot of people are still starving for basketball and are also starving to, you know, to get in on the action. If you will, watch these games and check, check. I exactly. Exactly. So I think for in that respect, it's got some upside there.

You know, you get a game like Villanova USC is a quarterfinal game in this tournament. Just going to be real with you guys. That's better than any game that we've had in the NIT from the brand perspective. So I think for them between the games, between some of the star players, they're giving out NIL money. I think that NIL is only going to rise up, which is everything in college hoops. I think it's gonna have staying power, and it's in Vegas.

Broader than the tournament, we know about the NIL and the revenue sharing plan coming forward. The most recent articles that I've read suggest that the Big East is going to become a basketball power because of the disproportionate amount of money that they'll be able to spend on their basketball programs because they don't have to support football programs. Is that something we should expect? So should next year's Final Four and the Final Four after that be all Big East teams or is there something else coming down the pike? Yeah,

that's crazy. That's crazy talking to me. It's SEC, ACC and Big Ten coaches expressing and Big 12 coaches expressing this heavy concern because Big East programs are gonna be able to dedicate more money from ref sharing. Okay, I'm sorry. When's the, SEC coaches have never made under the table deals? Yeah!

Never paid cash? Yeah! Come on. Let's get under the table. Big East is set for success, but it's all, the Big East has always had a spot on the table. Like it's, but whether they have, come on, three, four final, that's not gonna happen to that degree.

The conference is in a good place because it values basketball and in college basketball, it's gonna continue. They got big personalities, big time coaches with Patino, with Hurley and so on. That's what keeps the league going on top of its prioritizing of hoops. The SEC, the big 10, these other leagues, the concept, the idea, the thing put in the press that they're not going to have dollars, get the hell out of here. Let's go.

Way to go, Jon Fanta. Awesome appearance. Thank you so much, man. Jon Fanta did it. He's the man. Thank you so much, man. John Fanta did it. He's the man. Our first successful interview, thanks to a great John Fanta. Thank you, guys. Thanks for not rejecting me. Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo. Started with a bark, ended with a bark.

That's a great man. He should have been here. Hawk should have been here. Why? Because he's a Brownsie. John would have loved that. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a Browns guy.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I want to commend you all. Oh, because he's a Browns guy. John would have loved that. Oh, yeah, he's a Browns guy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I want to commend you all. No one referenced soda in that entire interview. Thank you so much. Good job, guys. We were just doing it before. He's got to be a Fanta drinker, right?

If you got to like Fanta, your name's Fanta. Right, but isn't it also like, don't you think that he gets that? The hackiest question you could ask, probably. So that's why I'm proud of you guys. That's what we would have done if Dan were here. Just to start on an awkward note. You want to do a Dan impressions

of how he would have asked that question? Dan? Charlie's like, hm, hm. I can't do it on command. What? No, I, Dan, new respect for Dan. We all love and appreciate Dan. We aren't here.

No? Grant Williams! There we go. Billy, we got an update on the search for Jason Mason. Yeah, Jason Mason has been contacted. Ooh! Yeah, so we're waiting more on Jason Mason. Hold on, time out.

You guys looked at a picture of Taylor that's like five or six years, how many years old, saw someone in the background and said, get me, that ain't not even in focus. His whole face is in the picture. How'd you guys know who he is? No, well we were making fun, well Dominique was making fun of.

I was not making fun of Jason Mason. I was making fun of Taylor. I mean, you used Jason Mason as a means to make fun of Taylor. I mean, you used Jason Mason as a means to make fun of Taylor. I mean, I was a little confused why he needed to have glasses on while he was running. That's a good point, man. Just like, I would assume that you would have

dropped all the way to Jekyll and like, I know that maybe you can't read small things, but you can see. You know why? Because he's not a nerd like y'all. He's looking in the stands like, okay, that one over there, all right, okay. Second row, I see you over here.

Go ahead, buddy. Jason Mason. Why does he have his first name on it? I appear courtesy of myself, Jason. You're doing all the jokes we did yesterday. It's good humor. I think it's just, yeah. He plays for George Mason.

He looks like, where's the George? I'll play track. That's a good question. It just says Mason. Yeah, and the way that it. He looks like he's, where's the George? I'll play track. That's a good question. It just says Mason. Yeah, and the way that it's moved. Oh, gotcha. Also, he looks exhausted.

Taylor looks like he's just out here warming up. Well? Jason looks exhausted. Is his name Jason? Yeah, his name is Jason Mason. Yeah. His name's not Jason Mason. You said you contacted him.

What's his name, Billy? Do you know his extra name? He has been contacted. Hold on a second. I'll get it for you contacted him. What's his name Billy? Do you know? He's been contacted Hold on a second. I'll get it for you right Anthony Williams Williams you know you just making that name up. No, that's his name Tony well Tony Buddy Tony will buddy. Well, what would his hockey name be? Will see so we contacted him. I'm not sure if he's joining us, but maybe next hour Negotiations yeah, we're ongoing, trying to figure it out.

We're also getting to the bottom of that race also, so that photo might tell a different story than the results of that race. What? A hell of a tease. Wait a second. It does, Taylor lost the race. Yeah? And confirmed in that race, Taylor was on the North Carolina C team. What? Taylor?

But in Taylor's defense, North Carolina's C team did have a better time in the race than the North Carolina B team. Where was the A team? However, they did lose. Where was the A team? The A team wasn't even on the sheet so far was Taylor's scholarship I know you walked on for football. Did he walk on for track as well? Yes, and he also walked off the team the next year because he didn't like the coach

We found out was my coach when I did We found that out on mystery Crate. Did you like him? Yeah, I liked him. I liked him. It's fine. Yeah. You're a good athlete, so I... I... I... I...

Coaches tend to like good athletes. That tends to be the case. I don't... I liked him. I didn't say he liked me. Right. I think that's normally what happens is with coaches, you're a good athlete, they treat you well.

You like them. They like you. That's always been my experience. I never really had a coach I didn't like. Met a lot of guys who work at Foot Locker who said that their coaches were assholes. Happens all the time. Man, they put me for that coach, hating on me, man.

Yeah, bro. You know who coaches don't hate? The dudes who make their job a lot easier. I didn't do that, because I had a situation in track where I sprained one ankle really bad, and then I was in the training room basically all the time, and I would just go in, do the treatment, be in the training room forever,

and I thought that's all I had to do, because I couldn't walk, I couldn't do anything, and then he was mad at me, he was like, well you still should have been coming to practice, I'm like, what am I gonna do? I can't pull vault with a sprained ankle and like a brace on. So then I came back, I swear to God, came back, first day back, go up, come down,

sprained the opposite ankle. First day back in practice. So I'm telling you, I don't think he liked me at all, because the first sprained ankle, pick up basketball. Oh! Yeah, and he told me, he's like, if you were not a walk-on, you would not be on this team right now

I go to cut if you're a scholarship guy and you were playing basketball and sprained your ankle you wouldn't gun I was like, okay coach The funny thing is like we did it all the time I mean we played basketball in college all the time the coaches didn't mind they didn't hate it. They're appreciated I hated it. Yeah playing against the football players. I was weird. We would play some, a version of basketball. It was physical. No fouls. No jump shots.

Oh, yeah. Why do you think slam ball never caught on? A lot of dunks though. Like slam ball was like everyone's dream as a child, like trampoline basketball. Like some serious injuries in slam ball. I feel like. Yeah, it ruled. It was like jacked up.

I feel like that might have been part of it. Really, like seriously? Why aren jacked up. I feel like that might have been part of it. Really? Like seriously? Aren't those trampoline parks like, people are just tearing ligaments left and right? Yeah. Knock on wood, I've taken my daughter

to those trampoline parks, never seen an ambulance. And there's always hundreds of kids. Never seen an ambulance. I would think, I would think. They just put them straight in the hearse. I would think once a day, someone's tearing something and there's an ambulance coming. No, they just, so they have it happen so often

that they got a well oiled machine. They get them out, they get them into the back room. They bring out the blue tent before you can see it. They just tent the kid. Are you calling an ambulance if you just like, sprain your meniscus? Like you're probably going home and you're like, oh, that doesn't feel good.

And then you're going to the doctor in a few days. For that lawsuit though, I'm trying to sue. I feel like Chris, you're the type to get on there. I need an ambulance, I can't move. No, not you need an ambulance, but you're the type. Because I've been to those. My kids are probably just leaving that range. My youngest kid just leaves in the range where I have to go to those type of parks.

Never one step foot on there. Same. I don't actually jump. I just watch. That's a place where you're signing waivers, though, right, Chris? Oh, yeah. You're not suing them.

There's a whole line for the waiver part before you get to the pay part. It's like sign this waiver and then you can go pay. You can do it ahead of time. And if you do it ahead of time, when you get there, they make you physically sign it also. So you can go through an electronic waiver process and I'll be like, yeah, we're gonna breeze right through it.

Then I get there and they're like, you did an electronic waiver, we see. Now fill it out with ink. Oh, they make you do it twice? Oh, hell Yeah, they plan You're not gonna get no suing that place is I'm gonna tell you right now. That's not fun like it the trampoline park Kids love it kids love it because they don't have fun. What kid they have six ACLs kids thing is fun for adult. Yeah Oh

Come on now Chuck E cheese American Ninja Warrior Oh, come on now. Chuck E. Cheese? American Ninja Warrior? Is that for kids? I do like doing Papa Shot of Chuck E. Cheese. I do like an arcade, because I can do it. Let me get the card for a second. Yeah.

Do it, man. They do. So the gymnastics, Dominique Dawes has gymnastics gyms in the Maryland area, and they also, they're gymnastics half ninja courses. So like the kids, my youngest daughter loves ninja courses. The kids do love ninja courses. Is it swiveling with like cold water underneath? I don't think they have swiveling cold water things.

They do have basketball hoops though. Corner three off. They don't shoot too much at the trampoline park. You know that right? There's a trampoline there for a reason. At the trampoline park, I take my daughter to, they have like an American gladiator thing where you walk out on like the thing

and you're battling with someone, some aggressive, that's always where I'm at, just watching those things. Watching those kids all the time. The parents are getting mad at other parents' kids, like he's hitting, you're supposed to push. I got you over there with- Taking bets? Yep, you got it.

You're like, hey, who's got a red shirt? This guy's got a 600. I'm putting odds on every matchup for sure. Red shirt's been on a three game run. Who's next going to take on a blue shirt? Going to take on a red shirt. What you got on that? You just a numbers runner?

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Don LeBretard again started on the breakfast lawn man. I've been singing a song to myself all morning long Stugats you never heard the breakfast. No hit me with it. Okay. I wish I had some breakfast flan. Da da da da da da da da da da. Breakfast flan. Da da da da da da da da da. Where can I find a breakfast like that? Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the StuGuts. ["Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"] Can I say something about our last interview with the StuGards. ["The Stugarts Theme Song"]

Can I say something about our last interview that I've been thinking about for 10 minutes now? He's a red Fanta guy. I don't like when adult sports fans bark. What? What's the setting that it's appropriate? What? I just- Oh, if you're talking to Willow, it's okay.

But look, we're gonna burn. I don't bark at her. Yes, you do. What? I just. Oh, if you're talking to Willow, it's okay. But look, you're going to burn. I don't bark at her. Yes, you do. I've seen it. What age is barking no longer? You have me sitting there with my dog like woof woof woof woof woof. And Willow goes like this, oh. You've been talking all day.

I'm like, what's she talking about? Is there like an age where barking is no longer like appropriate? I mean, if kids do it, I'm not going to be like, oh, like. Yes, you are. Well, I don't like kids. So mean if kids do it I'm not gonna be like, oh, like, well I don't like kids. So maybe I would. Yes you are. And in reality though, maybe 18, maybe we'll just say the cough is college age.

I don't know, it's like Georgia games, Browns games, like those are the places where you get barked at the most. And they gotta throw the fist pump too with it. Arcidio Hall, that's Arcidio. And they do it because they know it's annoying. This isn't like a surprise to anyone. I hate sometimes when that happens, man. You're waiting for that window, like, just give me a second.

Just give me a second. I'm going to jump in and say what it means. Arseneal Hall, like, shit, man. I didn't realize. I had a whole set up, man. My apologies. Let's pretend like I didn't say Arseneal Hall. I'll do it again.

You need to do my part again. I'll start again. What's the age, like, the cutoff for, like, barking? I think if kids Nailed it I Charlie and I have been work friends for a long time and I think in the last year or so we've probably become like real Friends. Oh, wow

No, I'm gonna try I'm gonna explain it to you No, I think that the friend progression So there is a level of friend that when you know all the embarrassing stuff That's what I'm talking about Like I think that a lot of people you consider your friend But you know, they're not really friends until you start to meet their friends and you start to find out things So when Jessica was talking about fans barking, all I could think about was Charlie's friend who,

and this is not a friend from last night, this is a different friend, this is a different friend who says, or not says, who on third downs, he's a Commander's fan, and on every third down, squeals, he gets at a three point stance and says,

let's heat him up. Yep, that three point stance guy, out of bar. Let's, losing to the three point stance and says, let's heat him up. Yep. Three point stance guy. At a bar. Losing to the Eagles by 50. At a bar? What's he say? Heat him up.

You got blitz. Send the blitz. That just means get some pressure. Heat him up. We got to heat him up. He's getting into a stance at a bar? Hand in the dirt. Stop it.

So it rules. Jessica, this is why I said it's only been the last year or so that I feel like Charlie and I are at a level of friendship where I really know Charlie because I would never Introduce anyone to my three-point. I have friends who do very embarrassing things Three-point stance at a bar every third down yells, let's heat them up So this is I'm gonna figure out what this level of equality in this friendship is. Charlie, have you met any of his friends? I am his friend.

There it is. I mean, you met Kevin. Kevin came to the show a couple times. And DeQuel. Oh yeah, you met DeQuel a bunch of times. Yeah. He hasn't met any of my embarrassing friends. That's what I was asking for.

I wasn't asking for the regular friends. I'm trying to think who would embarrass me. Go ahead. I'm not embarrassed by my three-point stance There's a loneliness epidemic this is why this is Let's heat them up is third down we gotta get a stop It was real tough in that NFC championship game against the Eagles he continued to get into the three-point One sack fumble away his hand is on the floor is it on the bar is it on the floor the

floor yeah like sticky so when it was tush push time did he get in a four point stance because you know you've got to get four points dance for two three point only he's an edge guy he's an edge guy. He's an edge guy, he's a pass rusher. Only on third down, passes situations. If I'm you, I'm calling offsides every single time. That's actually a great idea. I wonder how he would have reacted to that. Not well.

But you can't announce it, you gotta just show up with a flag. Throw the flag right in front of him right there. And then turn to an imaginary camera and be like free play all sides okay his his wife was very pregnant his wife pregnant wife was there no no she was delighted that he was at the bar in a three-point sense me instead of at home with her I'm sorry I think I failed to explain this.

Every single commander's game... Unclear. I can't confirm or deny that. Of course he does it at home! Exactly! If he's doing it at a bar! You think that the man who does a three-point stance and yells, let's heat him up at a bar, is at home, sitting with his leg... I sure hope our boys are victorious on this very important, pivotal third down.

No, let's heat them up. There's a certain part of that that's for attention, right? That you would do at a bar, that like at home, why would you do that? He's a showman. Also, I thought it was something repressed, right? Like at home, don't you dare do that shit in here. I was actually interpreting this differently. I thought this was like a good luck thing.

Like, he's like, this is what I have to do now. That's how I took it all along as this man's a lunatic. No, I think he believes the team needs him. He's one of those. It's kind of a superstition, but it's like, I got to get down his three point stance. I just think he loves ball. I don't think there's anything deep in that.

I do a less extreme version. I'll stand up on a big third down on my couch where you're just like, I'm excited. Like, all right, come on, we need this. We need this right here. Standing's weird. But I'm not getting football stands. The antsy hands is a little weird.

The antsy hands? Show me the antsy hands. That's just, you just get up, you're like, all right, come on, let's go, guys. Chris, getting up and standing up is not the same as getting into a three-point. No, I know, that's why I'm saying, I do a version of it. What did your friend do?

He's like a pediatrician or something? Private equity. Oh no. People's money. Billions of dollars. Eat them up. Eat them up. I went to a game last season.

I got invited to the game and the third down thing made me think about it. I was invited to this game in a box and a guy warned us before the game started. Look at me, Louie. Before the game started, he was like, he told the whole room, I just want you guys to know I'm a third down noisemaker. It's a classification that I never heard of and I didn't know you needed. Now that I feel like in light of three-point stance guy that has a wide lane to be because third down noise guy might be a third down and on the

jumbotron I say make noise and go that might be third down noise guy or you might get into a three-point stance. I didn't think it was the justification or clarification that you had to make until third downs hit and then what happened then he went nuts. And it was like a box where all the people were invited. And you know, there are certain boxes that are a little bit quieter. It's like no one in here is like a super fan.

These are people like a- Titans of industry. A company owned the box and they brought people just as like a reward. So in this box, everyone's just like, okay, cool. This is nice, this is nice. And he is going ape. Give me.

I need it. Just, ah! Let's go! Let's go make some noise! Let's go! I've been that guy before. Are you that guy that implores the people around you? In the stands, on third down, you stand up.

Come on guys! Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Big one right here. I like it. You just want to kind of inspire other people around you don't think the three-point sense is inspiring No, it is like at a bar. It's just a lot like the hand down on the gross bar floor It's a he's trying Charlie does he do it at at games. He ever been to a game. I I can't get firm He's season ticket guy. So so he does it at game. I don't know I feel like that's a question that can be answered pretty quickly. Can you sort of do it for us?

Because how is he sort of down but still can see the high up TVs at the bar? Like how is he able to focus? His hips are open. Good athlete. How's his butt? Oh, strong. Great glutes, great glutes. I don't think that you can get into three point stance at the bar.

I just couldn't do it. I appreciate those guys who bring that energy. I don't. It makes it more fun. You don't? Why not? I don't need that, man. You don't?

You know what I'm the guy, first of all, in the bar for sure because nine times out of 10, I don't know that this is the Packers bar or whatever. So I'm just coming in like, hey man, let me get a, and then some guys in the three point stance, oh Jesus Christ, man, come on, relax. You know what I am? I'm the asshole that says, they can't hear you, you know.

That guy's a dick. That guy's a dick, but that's who I am. And it's not because I think they can't hear, it's because I know it's gonna piss them off. Okay, so two point stance, two feet on the ground. Three point stance, one hand on the ground. Four point, two hands, two feet. What is the number that goes when you're just on your back

in the bar? Touchdown. No, no one knows. Just wondering, just wondering. Just imagining that I'm at a bar, some people two point stance, some people three point stance, and some, there's a couple guys who drink enough that just pass out.

The three point stance does stand out more. Cause if I was doing like center, middle linebacker stance, it's just kind of like, you know, like squatting with your hands on your knees. A DB stance is just a. You're kind of like, you know. What, what number is the stance where you have two feet in your face on the ground?

Is it the Foxworth stance? It's definitely not the Foxworth stance. What the, there's a picture, I can't remember who it was. They're running off for a, it was a T.O. and you're just kind of on the ground. Michael Turner. That was Michael Turner. Oh, Michael Turner, yeah.

Turner the Burner, Charlie was the producer of Highly Questionable, who used to pull up that picture all the time to try To embarrass me because I missed the tackle. I missed one tackle my whole career is okay. They caught it on film though You don't sound mad at all. Is that is that how that works? I'm not mad. I love it. I love you guys. I love three points that sky I don't This is why he does it because he's got friends like Charlie yeah, man, that's cool. I don't. Come on, man, what are we doing? This is why he does it, because he's got friends like Charlie, like, yeah, man, that's cool.

I think it's pretty cool. Come on, man. I would never be that guy. We just made 10 minutes of content about him. I guarantee you he hates tanking, I mean. Yeah, that's my guy. I think I like him more than guy who barks, but. No, I'll take Barker any day.

I think they're the same guy. Oh, really? Any day. All right, Willow's coming tomorrow. Well, okay, any guy. Definitely the same guy. Yeah, they're the same guy. I think they're the same guy, just, Charlie Lulz coming tomorrow. Well, okay, any guy. Definitely the same guy. Yeah, they're the same guy. I mean, they're the same guy.

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