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You're listening to Giraffe King's Network.
This is the Dunlabel Tarshow with the Stugat's Podcast.
And now, it is time to take a trip down memory lane.
Here's your guy, Greg Cody, with back in my day.
Packing went on in the last con cruise recently, gone 10 days.
Major suitcases and serious packing would be involved.
Wife and I were discussing how much luggage would each bring, and she says to me, almost
as an afterthought, I ordered some cubes that should be delivered by tomorrow.
I had the same blank look on my face I might have had if she had said, I ordered some
door stops that should be delivered by tomorrow.
It was a non-sequitor to my ears.
We were discussing suitcases. You
know, cubes in my lexicon are ice cubes and rubix cubes. Packing cubes, she
addressed my blank stare. Still nothing but furrowed eyebrows for me. So she says
small individual containers with zippers that help organizing condensed
everything. The whole world uses packing cubes but you. I hear that a lot from my wife.
She loves to say the whole world
is doing something except me.
I mock her saying that packing cubes
will help organize my suitcase.
It's a suitcase.
I'm the boss of my suitcase, not vice versa.
I throw a bunch of clothes in there in the order I wish.
It is not this huge and confounding labyrinth.
I don't need a map to remember where I put the t-shirts
And by the way, I'm gonna lay my t-shirts flat or at most folded once because they prefer that
t-shirts hate to be rolled into a cylinder like the cubes want
It sounded to me like packing cubes were a bunch of tiny suitcases
You filled up and put inside a big suitcase
Which means you couldn't take as many clothes because all of the damn packing cubes were taking up space.
And then instead of everything being readily visible
for swift access, you had to remember or try to guess
which of this myriad of opaque zipped-up packing cubes
contained what you were looking for.
Unzipping a suitcase to a sea of packing cubes
is as disparaging as opening the fridge
to find wall-to-wall Tupperware tubs. It's the illusion of efficiency. Somebody on a get rich quick
vendor and vents something we don't need because they know that gallblow trend
gobbling travelers would eat it up. So here come the packing cubes to my doorstep.
The only zippered container I want in my suitcase is the old-fashioned friend
with the charmingly unfortunate name, the toiletry bag.
Pack in a suitcase does not require a science or a system, folks. I don't need a cubed
organized mere save space. I stuffed three pair of underwear in one dress shoe, and balls
of socks and a corled up belt in the other. I proudly underpack. Nobody packs light like
me because nobody cares or knows if I wear the same pair
of undies more than once. Nobody on the cruise ship is whispering, disparaging, hey,
didn't that man over there wear that same dress you wore days earlier? And if I forget my belt,
well, I bet those sell in Alaska and if they don't, it wouldn't be the first time I cinched
together two belt loops with a piece of twine and walked in there with a chin-up strut.
So here I am, just another lumbing sliding to his airport gate with the unwanted convenience
of telescoping handles and rolling wheels.
You can't even buy the suitcase you want nowadays.
I wanted to a luggage store and asked for a large leather vellise with a strap handle.
Didn't have it.
Carpet bags, he said no.
I said, can I get a wooden steamer trunk?
Nope, didn't have that either.
I can't get the suitcase, I wanted.
At least let me pack it my way.
No cubes allowed.
I'm Greg Cody.
Yeah.
And that's how it was back in my day.
Mike Ryan is shaking his head.
Billy is applauding.
He's so right about this.
Well, he's so wrong about one of the wrongs that he said.
How many underwear did you pack for a 10-day trip?
In all honesty, I think I packed five.
Oh, no.
That stuffed him in a shoe.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's a good idea.
I don't see that cute.
Exactly.
I need shoes.
I'm not wearing a cube on my foot.
I need a suitcase to go inside a suitcase.
Like, yeah, that's exactly right. People need shoes. I'm not wearing a cube on my foot. I need a suitcase to go inside a suitcase. It's like, ah, Jesus.
That's exactly right.
People over underwear.
You don't need to wear a pair of underwear.
I'm not shitting in my pants like an infant.
I don't need to change my underwear every single day.
I'm gonna say that.
I'm gonna lie.
I said it.
You're embarrassing yourself.
You fart every day.
That's not the start.
What if the start is just clean air filtered air coming out of there.
No, speak no matter what.
What's it to you?
When I'm living a pet, I drop my boxers.
That's what my family used to call for.
No, you've been doing that hold on.
Let's just stop here.
No, he's right.
He was rolling.
Yeah, thank you, Billy.
Yes, but no, he was rolling.
Yes, but I do want to stop for a moment because I had that same reaction
I'm going to say about 30 years ago when he said and families do have verbiage for all
of this that the Cody family is the only one in the universe that describes that farting
as letting a pet.
Correct.
You let a pet and then you go take a QK.
If you feel it coming, you drop your drawers,
you know, let the pet into the wild.
I love this family.
Pull your pants back up and go about your day.
So you're dropping trout during the dinner service,
just like, hold on, I got a pet percolating it.
I'm going to the restroom, you know, I'm behind closed doors.
Most people feel like me.
Nobody else has the balls to say it.
So many beer farts in the morning. No one feels like you, Greg. Here is the balls to say. That's right. So many beer parts in the morning.
So many beer parts in the morning.
No one feels like you, Greg.
Here's a packing cube.
It's called luggage.
Help me with it.
That's where you go.
Hello, Billy.
Hello.
No, Billy's right as always.
Guys, always on the mark.
Or is the GAC or just meet it with General Sound?
Just add a real like to do that.
Yes, two catchphrases.
I'll take you with God.
I'll take the nod.
You know?
I know how to say, and you know what?
In Mandarin, I'll tell you that. Don I'll take the nod, you know? I know how to say, and you know what, in Mandarin,
I'll tell you that.
Don't do that.
Please don't.
Yeah, my wife is Chinese, she'll fly over here and kill you.
You know what, I would not disparage her by saying
what is just a phrase.
I think you would.
In fact, if I say it, will you ask her if I'm saying it?
I love it when we get out of the eye.
She's right way of positioning it.
I'm like, you're trying to learn.
Yeah, you're trying to learn. Yeah, you're trying to learn.
My wife has been a martial artist.
She's nationally ranked for over 18 years.
She will kill you with a toothbrush.
Well, luckily, she's thousands of miles away from me.
And I run fast.
She's a ninja.
She could be here right now.
I got old man's speed.
There's a reason why when I check into a hotel room,
I still sleep on my side of the bed,
even though she's not in the hotel room because she might be there
Terrified I have to think that everyone in our audience is saying to themselves. It's one pair of underwear a day
Yes, it's not a least not an accrued on vacation where you're being active you go out
You spend all day you go you come on you shower you put new underwear on all bets are off on a cruise
The only exception is me where swim trunks. Yeah, like swim trunks multiple days. That's fine
That saves on underwear. I got two pair a day when I'm traveling 10 days. So that's 20 pairs of underwear
I'm not saying I use them all that's not saying I'm not saying I use them all
But I think I think are you grabbing your pants like why are you changing underwear today? I'm bringing saying I use them all, but I think I did. Are you crapping your pants? Like why are you changing underwear today?
I'm bringing underwear.
Anytime I wash myself, I change underwear.
Too much underwear, you're over underwearing.
You don't go commando once in a while.
Ain't no love.
Old underwear, you know?
That saves on underwear as well.
Is the over on Chris' underwear.
Greg Cody claiming that the only thing
that should go in a suitcase that is
also another suitcase, the toilet treat bag. Correct. The only thing with a zipper other
than pair of jeans have zippers. And let's say a button. Put it on the pole, please
Judeo at Lebitar Show. Do you have any other bags inside your suitcase other than the
toilet treat bag? They have compartments.
A good suitcase, you don't need other suitcases
to go into the suitcase.
You put your socks in one thing.
You put your underwear, five pairs of them into a shoe,
and you're good to go.
It's just more efficient though.
You can pack like six shirts into one little packing cube,
and then you press it down, get all the air out of it,
and this little space right here is holding like six shirts.
But who wants to dig through that?
Right wants to get on the cruise,
or zipper his suitcase, put on a pair of shorts,
no one can wear.
So flip flop to T-shirt and go hit the drink bag.
It's the deck shoes the whole time.
I mean, there's no flip flop.
I travel every week.
I got those vacuum sealed bags.
You put the vacuum cleaner in it,
it sucks out all the air,
you can pack your whole closet into a suitcase.
Amazing. No, we don't do that. We don't do that. cleaner in it, it sucks out all the air, you can pack your whole claws into a suitcase. It's amazing.
No, we don't do that.
We don't do that.
Yes you do, mom did it for you.
No, I packed my stuff.
She's the one who bought the cubes.
She packed her thing and I packed mine.
Darn her for being more efficient.
I mean, she tells me what to pack, granted, but then I throw it in my suitcase.
She's got to be disgusted by your underwear, have it.
There's no way that she's good with that.
Um, you know what?
It's a peccadillo of mine.
She finds it endearing.
There's no way that she's true.
She's into deep, you know what I do.
This is a sincere question.
Do you have any underwear that's older than me?
No way.
No, I don't.
I do have t-shirts older than you.
Do you have five pairs of underwear?
Yeah.
What's your oldest pair of underwear?
That you even nearer surprised
that it's last of this one.
I recycle my underwear every couple of years.
The pair you're wearing right now,
when did you put them on?
My haines.
Who was present?
This morning.
No, we love haines boxers.
What's a vampire in it?
No, no, I wear a fresh underwear.
I would imagine your wife swaps them out too, right?
Like if she's buying you these cubes,
I'm sure everyone's going to want to see them out.
It's like here, Greg, here's a new pack of underwear.
Exactly.
I also wear t-shirts multiple times.
I'll wear the exact same outfit to a restaurant,
two nights in a row.
Do you have any t-shirts from the Nixon era?
No, they don't ask that long.
Carter?
No.
You're not self-conscious about wearing it.
You're not even separated by five days and outfitting.
How many Reagans?
You're just wearing the same outfit.
You have a Ronald Reagan?
You have a limited-fitting Ronald Reagan.
It's one word.
It's one word.
It's just whale.
But that's it.
What are they seeing off the boat in Kielargo?
It's not like he's wearing like a blue shirt
that it's like, oh, is that the same shirt?
Is it a different shirt?
He's wearing like a shirt that says,
oh my God, it's the Watford shirt.
I swear to God I was just about to say,
in Alaska, he wore that Watford shirt
like six days in a row.
No, but I did wear two, three days in a row.
Unless I'm sweating profusely,
and it's sitting on a hike, and it smells, then I'm wearing a three days in a row. And let's some sweating profusely. And it's sweating.
We went on a hike and it smells.
Then I'm like, where are you days in a row?
Your wife has no fear of you ever cheating on her.
Ever.
No fear.
Why do I want to change shirts?
If I'm wearing a dress shirt into an air conditioned restaurant,
I'm not sweating, I'm not spilling anything on it.
It's perfectly clean. I wear it again the next day,
what's the crime in that?
I don't get it.
People are so fiscidious about what they wear
and changing underwear every day, it's just unnecessary.
I think pet peeve, I think that this,
or four fathers didn't do that.
That's right, Greg.
This is a telltale sign of aging
I believe there is a crossroads and I don't think it's just getting married
I believe there's another depth of aging here when you're wearing the same outfit two three four days in a row
That is something that people only over 50 or 60 end up doing. You stop caring.
You do not care about hygiene.
You do not care about the opinions of others.
Greg should be commended for what he's doing.
You go to any hotel and they say,
you know what, use your towel twice
for trying to save the environment, the whales, blah, blah.
Greg's taking that to all of his clothes.
He's doing that with all of his clothes, minimal washing,
saving all the whales, all the turtles, all that.
He's doing all these great things for the environment.
He's not being, you guys, you know what you are?
You're close, gluttons.
That's what we're surrounded by right now, Greg.
Everybody needs a new outfit every day.
For what?
Damn right, they do.
Whale?
And another thing, don't make me out to be worse than I am.
What a weird face.
When I wear the same outfit two days in a row don't turn it into four
days in a row because that's a lot of sun just said that you wore that shirt six
times on the ten day maybe it was six days in eight out of eight days you
wore six days two or three perhaps this is a new and improved
the lebertar show with the stugas gamble on by draft kings
down lebertard.
Just, you can't talk about double-digit national titles
when every single call of you winning the national title.
Sounds like this.
Oh, there's a Stubby Jacket running down his highlight.
It is, it is.
If the audio, yeah.
That's not true.
Yeah, and there's a World War II veteran pitching
into another white guy, and he avoids another white guy.
Oh my God, Notre Dame, the fighting hymns, have done it again for the eighth time. I'm not avoids another white guy. Oh my god another name the fighting
timers have done it again for the eight time. I'm not a pale white people. Spook at chubby checker
Sorry
He's black. I was really good. It's a white name chubby checker. I think I'm like, I'm sorry man
I'm in Provinear
It's a pretty cool rip. It's definitely a quiet stage.
Running down the side.
He smells it differently.
His name is Shubby.
Maybe you didn't hear me correctly.
His name is Shubby Chakras.
It's an S at the end.
I feel like that should be the largest of five.
And Shubby Chakras.
And Shubby Chakras.
It sounds like a college football name.
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certain, he didn't miss me at all. But then, he's been forced back into action, because
you can only help your poor wife deal with two kids for 21 days. And just like that, Make no mistake about it Billy kill is back
Speaking of back. Hey Dan
On Thursday, you know what else is back do you Dan?
football
You won wf a.n. Oh
Forget about that. Thanks for the reminder.
Dan, you know what the B in Billy and the G
in Gill stands for?
I do not.
Baby girl, how about that hat's I being amazing?
Is it though we can't produce boys around here?
Nobody here, Greg Cody is the only one
who can produce a boy around here.
Damn right.
Taking a week off to sit at home and watch Shark Week feels like an abuse of the
metal arc vacation policy. I regret writing that. I didn't know the news.
Sorry. Sorry, Dan. You're not preparing for anything you're doing on WFA and you're not
preparing. You're going to go to WFA and you're not-
Just let it fly, baby. It's worked at this point. Why change up the game now?
Because it's the only place in all of sports media where you have to be prepared where it could work here
Your plan that can't work anywhere else
Your plan is a recipe for value disaster anywhere else in sports media
International thank you. You know that Odele Beckham is no longer on the Giants what?
OBJ Max for stepping is no longer on the Giants. What? Oh, Bj. Max Versteppin.
Feel free to mix in a second or third place finish
every now and again.
Oh, whatever.
I would tell Max Scherzer to look someone in the eyes
when he talks to them.
Oh, come on.
But he can't come up with what he means.
Unless it's Hunter Pence.
I mean, they see eye to eye.
There's two different color eyes.
He's not, he doesn't have a wandering eye.
It's just two different colored eyes.
Max Verstappen is a magician.
He made Lewis Hamilton disappear.
Dan, you know what the M in Max Verstappen stands for?
Magician.
Wow, you're on it.
Are you getting upset because you mispronounced Max's name? Max Verstappen stands for. Magician. Wow. You're on it.
Are you getting upset because you mispronounced Max's name?
I'm lashing out.
Stop her stepping on my jokes.
Dead in company shows.
With Bill Walton, Miles Teller, Lake Tahoe, thick and jake going with Aaron Rogers, articles
being written about me, me writing articles about others,
Steven A Smith,
live God bless football from New York City,
WFAN, Dan, I'm having a moment.
Top five things that are having a moment.
Number five, Christopher Meddog, we're so.
Have a moment, number four, Oppenheim.
Oppenheimer?
Whatever.
Number three, the color pink.
Oppenheim.
Did you just, I think it was Oppenheimer with your agent?
You thought they made a movie about your agent?
Lou, not having a moment right now.
Number two, me. And number one. You thought they made a movie about your agent? Lou, not having a moment right now. No.
Number two, me and number one, Barbie.
I mean, Barbie's having a moment.
Pink was number three.
Yeah, pink.
So you've got Oppenheimer.
Oppenheimer.
Oppenheimer, who would destroy the Earth
with a nuclear bomb and Oppenheimer, who would destroy the Earth with a nuclear bomb, and Oppenheim, who'd destroy
this show with one.
Keep an eye on the angels.
Jason Point.
They're like five games over 500.
Yeah, but they kept Donutani, Trout is coming back.
He's had to make a couple of trades at the deadline.
I mean, they had six years to impress Donutani, and they're doing it now at the trade deadline.
Six games out.
Weird, but watch out for it.
Esquip an eye on them.
Yeah, unless you're just, unless you're Mac Shurser.
Right.
And you can't just look at Hunter Pence.
Correct.
You know what they say about Eli Apple, Dan?
I do not.
An apple a day keeps the Lamaritrofe away.
It's bad, bad news for the dolphins
by the way the barbie thing little out of hand seriously they're pop-up
stores restaurants all over New York City enough barbie you into this barbie
yes to god I haven't stopped thinking about it
if you plan this is the only time I haven't been wearing pink since the opening of the
moon.
So that's where you've got to go.
If you plan on telling me you watch USA and Portugal at 3 a.m., you better have proof.
I did watch it.
A picture of you watch, I need something.
Otherwise I don't believe you.
A picture of me watching it?
Well I believe you.
I do believe you
You were covering it and you gave me very good details this morning. We could tell you the score. Does that prove it?
No
It's a score of every soccer game. Do me a favor tell me one detail from the soccer game something it hit the post
Okay, but you read that right?
Reagan how did Portugal play well?
but you read that right Reagan how did Portugal play well if you are interested it a show where a host reports news with as much arrogance and bravado was
anyone in the history of our industry only to have it go the exact opposite
way 48 hours later I suggest listening to Mike Francesca the Pope.
That's amazing how wrong he is.
But he thinks he's right.
That's correct.
Hey Delta, congratulations on getting me to my gate seven minutes early.
Do me a favor.
Make the same announcement every time you get me to the gate, seven minutes late, thanks, getting on a plane.
When you're already a little stuffed up, dangerous game.
It is, I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't advise it.
I'm about to do it again on Wednesday.
G.O.
Probably not a good thing when the valet guys at the airport know you by name.
Mr. Weir.
They run to my car.
Um, thanks to everyone on the show for sending me their heartfelt birthday wishes over the weekend.
And by everyone, I mean Roy. Dan you know what the bee in Bellamy stands for?
Birthday. Wishes. Birthday wishes. I got it. It's tough day. You're
consumed with Barbie. I get it. I was so jealous of Billy at his paid three
weeks off for paternity leave that I spent the entire weekend trying to convince my wife
to have another kid.
How'd that go?
Oh wow.
Oh wow.
The harder part is getting her to have the sack.
Yeah.
Hey.
You're right.
Max Sharerser, do it in New York.
The match GM said this is not a fire sale.
Hey, match GM. Sell your not not a fire sale. Hey, match GM.
Sell, you're not having a fire sale of somebody else.
Because I ain't buying.
Thanks.
Anyone else get tired or getting tired of messy and Beckham?
No.
Really?
There's a new one everywhere in the opposite.
We've had LeBron and Wade.
We've had great duos down here.
And other than that, do something.
And they just showed up.
They haven't lost most popular guys in town. Oh And they just showed up. They haven't lost.
Most popular guys in town.
Oh, they've lost plenty.
Get out of here.
What do you mean?
Yeah, the team has.
I mean, these weird tournaments they make up in season.
Nothing.
But literally, they haven't lost anything.
They also have one technically irregular season game.
Have that.
There you go.
Do it in the regular season. Yeah, there you have that do it the regular
when do they play
august 20th is the next league game
i doubt anyone but they played tomorrow at the league cup in the inner land
no they played well i mean the stadium is far the state is still hour and not quite
not quite or land that is one of the most amazing things anywhere in sports.
Seeing Puff Daddy and Serena Williams and LeBron fly in to a gas station near a gas station in Fort Lauderdale.
I believe Puff Daddy was five names ago.
Whatever.
I doubt anyone has ten things in their life.
I doubt anyone has ten things in their life. I doubt anyone has ten things in their life.
That mean more to them than the public's chicken tender sub
means to me.
Put it on the pole too.
I dare you.
Will he always be puffed at you?
That's a good word.
The Texas Rangers are wheeling and dealing, Dan.
You of course know what that means.
The Rangers are doing, right? You know what mode they're in?
Oh, win now.
Oh, you are on your game today, man, despite Barbie.
Dan, I've started my preparations
for the upcoming NFL season,
and I'm telling you right now,
that you should keep an eye on these Chicago Bears.
Did you forget how this segment works?
Yeah.
He's like, it's all over the place.
Top five teams, you should keep an eye on.
Headed into this NFL season.
Number five, the Steelers.
Number four, the Browns.
Number three, the Raiders.
What are they for real?
Number two, the Saints.
Number one, the Bears.
Anthony Richardson, congratulations on passing the SNF test.
For those criticizing Dr. J about his all-time NBA top 10 list, it's his list. Make your own team USA.
That's how you park a bus.
Can't believe New York basically shut down
because they had four straight days of 91 degrees
that felt like 95.
Hey New Yorkers, what you call hell?
We here in Miami call home.
Speaking of hell how our briles
Dan those are the weekend observations
Don Lebertard photography's not as hard as it's made out to be and now with computer
I mean you can make anything look like anything day. It's almost cheating
It's not fair. If you push a button it takes a thousand pictures. You're gonna find a good one in the batch
There were a lot of photographers there
taking a thousands of pictures.
One got that photograph.
Okay, good retort.
Still gots.
Haven't you ever passed by photographers?
Tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch.
I guarantee you when that shot was taken,
we didn't just hear, tch, tch.
That's not what you heard.
If you were by that camera,
tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch.
Am I ear with that?, my ear would that.
He does a good camera.
This is the Dalai Batar show with this two-gats.
I've liked this guy for a long time,
have enjoyed his reinvention here in the media space
as he got to it very early and figured out
how to make an economy around being a former
athlete who is interesting. He's got a new show owned with Rex Chapman from SmartLess Media,
wherever it is you get your podcasts. This is about owners, correct? You had a number of different
options on which way you wanted to go in the content game. Thank you for joining us Rex,
it's nice to see you. Why did you choose this one? Well, Dan, thank first. Thanks for having me. Do we go back
like 30 years now? That's a long time. 25, 30 years, is that right?
Yes. Well, yeah, you were, you were a part of one of the greatest games in Miami Heat
History beating Michael Jordan with a roster of eight players and you had about
40 points in that game right? I didn't tell you to bring that up. I just was trying
to go into our history together. You let them there though. Well, thank you. Well,
it just going back for a second before we get to your podcast, where does that rank
with most fun you've ever had in a basketball game beating Michael Jordan with eight players as a member of the game or seven players?
That was pretty fun.
That was pretty fun.
They came in the bulls.
You know, they ended up 72 and 10 that year.
They came in and partied on South Beach the entire night knowing we only had like eight
players and we weren't very good anyway.
And I know that because I was there part of the night.
And then I went home and got a little sleep, and they didn't get any sleep.
And we just put it on them and yeah, it was fun, fun of shit.
Oh, the podcast with Rex Chapman.
Why did you decide to do this about owners?
Because we don't see these owners very much.
They get to live these shadowy existences where they're the ones actually breaking in all the money
we make assumptions about how smart they are when they're not actually that
smart so why did you decide to do this
uh... rich course and called me guy that is running the smartless uh... sort of
media brand uh... for jason bait mishon haze and will learn that from their
spin-off they spun off part of uh... uh their smart-less podcast into a couple different other ones
and after I did that greatly successful CNN plus show in New York for four episodes
before the network went kaput. They called me asked if I'd be interested in this. I was living in New York studios in the city and I thought why not
It is a it's a really interesting concept to talk about these people that really have a stranglehold on the communities
That they buy these franchises in and I've
Realized over time the the best owners well, they try to win, but they make the fans feel
Like part of the process. They they make the fans feel like part of the process.
They value the fans.
Good owners do.
They want the fans to be proud of the team that they put on the field or on the floor.
And a lot of these owners don't give a crap about the fans.
And I find those to be the most fascinating ones.
What did you learn most or what have you learned most so far even though you
haven't been doing this a ton yet?
Man, I think, for instance, Russell Crowe was one of our first episodes.
He reached out to me, Russell Crowe the actor, Oscar winner, Big Sports Fan.
Didn't know that. He bought his childhood rugby team, turned it in from
Rupert Murdoch for $3 million.
It's worth $85 million today, and it's the thing that he's most proud of in the world.
He loves it.
Sports ownership.
I think we're seeing that with Ryan Reynolds and Rob McLean.
He now with Rexham.
These guys, they love their acting and entertainment, but they love sports as well.
What kind of owner Rex was Mickey Arison?
Mickey was great and I, I just ran into Mickey in Vegas with his wife and son Nick.
They always give me the biggest hug when they see me and I was part of their, I guess, their first team down there.
Um, in Miami, is that right, Dan?
Pat Riley's first year, did they own it before then or not?
Yeah, the family is owned, it's into 88.
Okay, okay.
So I, yeah, I love those guys and I,
there are many times I'm asked about, you know,
good owners and bad owners anymore.
And Mickey is the one that I,
I kind of go to as sort of the top of the ladder.
He put Pat into it.
I think the best owners, they realize what they don't know
and they find people, experts in the field like Pat Riley.
They put guys like Pat Riley in charge
and trust Pat to put his people in place.
He's done that with Eric Spolstra.
They have a system.
They might not be title contenders every year
but they're in the playoffs every year,
and their fans are proud of the product they put on the floor.
Mickey does an amazing job of empowering the people around him
to do a top-notch job day in and day out.
It's just their system.
We have learned recently, not unlike with owners,
that many of these very wealthy CEOs or people
running giant businesses don't have any earthly idea
what they're doing. You mentioned your CNN plus show. I was very excited for that. And in
general, the endeavor and CNN has since collapsed because it is so poorly run. What happened
there, Rex, with you? Was it just a corporation coming in and deciding we're going to take
this all as tax hits. Never mind all the content
we were going to make. All those budgets get scrapped, get out of here Rex Chapman. We were
going to give you a big chance you're canceled after four shows.
Yeah, that's right. I did have a couple of your contracts, so that helped. As did many
of the sort of people that they were trying to develop shows around. And to be honest, yes,
they were just going to write everything off. to be honest, yes, they were just gonna write everything off.
It was a new philosophy, new ownership group came in,
not like unliked professional sports.
They decided they wanted to go another way.
They scrapped everything, took the big tax break,
and moved on.
That's part of it.
And you pick up and you move on.
But it was a terrific experience.
I'm forever grateful for the opportunity.
Rex, you mentioned Mickey Eris,
and there's a lot of opposite examples out there.
If you're starting a hall of shame
for a world's worst sports owner.
Now, let's do this another way.
Let's do it five.
Top five, one, two, three.
Owners of all time or right now? What do you want to do? Do you want to do top five?
I got to go all time.
Okay. All time.
This is exciting.
Hold on. I got to write this down.
This is very exciting. Let's all write this down. We got to get our pens here.
Get the fanfare. Get the highest quality production that we have back there to get
Rex Chapman's top five worst owners ever. The podcast is owned with Rex Chapman.
Number five, Rex.
Number five is George Shin.
That's a good one.
That is good.
George Shin, extremely cheap owner, drafted me.
That was his first mistake, I suppose.
Drafted me eighth, overall, to handle Michael Jordan in the east as a two-guard and i'll tell you how that worked out
michael jordan ended up owning the hornet that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that in extremely cheap, eventually sort of ran the thing into the ground, had to sell the team,
move to, move the, sorry, move the team to New Orleans, and then had to sell. It was just
a disaster. Number four, number four, Howard Schultz. Howard Schultz bought the Seattle
Supersonics in the early 2000s, held on to it for a couple of years. He bought it for like 200 million
sold it for like 350 million. It's just a bad business deal and the team moved to OKC. A team
deserves to be in Seattle, but he sold the team and made like 150 million if he to held the team for
10 years. He makes a billion dollars. If he held held on to it for 20 years he makes three or four billion dollars bad business.
That's the Starbucks guy right?
Starbucks yeah.
Number three.
Number three, Marge Shot.
Wow.
You got two worse than that all right good luck.
Marge Shot.
I was a teenager in the 80s growing up in, and the reds were the closest team to us.
She did do one thing that sort of endeared herself
to the fans, which was she kept
season ticket prices very low,
like maybe the lowest in the league.
The problem was she was incredibly cheap,
but on top of that, she also had random Nazi memorabilia
laying around her house.
I mean, what are we talking about?
They constantly asked her to do sensitivity training.
She was constantly saying,
uttering racial epithets at just admissible owner.
Number should have been left.
Number two.
Number two, dance nighter.
Oh, I have seen such a good stats.
Dance nighter.
You know, having played in Washington
for the bullets way back in the day,
we weren't very good.
The redskins were pretty damn good.
And the one thing about the redskins during that time
is the fan base loved the team, loved the group, loved the whole vibe
of things.
Dan Snyder bought the team and really from all the stuff in the front office, the sexual
harassment, the covering up of everything.
And the fact that he was, he was forced out.
I mean, come on, you can't do it.
Worst job.
Well, not, not just forced out, but forced out with something I haven't seen before, which
is you're leaving, we're taking $60 million as you go, even though you're selling for
$6 billion.
Here's a fine at the very end.
You can't do anything about it because you're awful.
But what is Stugat's the better stat for pointing out his incompetence?
Is it that in 24 years, they had two all pros, two to one a special teamer and one last year?
Or is it that they had as many division titles as federal investigations?
Number two.
Number one, Rex Chapman. The worst owner ever is?
Absolutely Donald Sterling.
worst owner ever is? Absolutely Donald Sterling.
Donald Sterling, owner of the Clippers from the time I entered the league in the 80s,
it was widely known that he was arguably the worst cheapest owner in the league at that
point.
Constantly in the lottery, drafting guys like Danny Manning and Gary Grant and Louis
Volta and really
good players letting them finish out their rookie deals when they had become really good
player, some of them all stars and never resigning those guys, just letting them walk.
Just a bad owner didn't care about winning, didn't care about the fans and then all the
racial stuff.
Come on.
Bottom of the barrel.
Rex, before we get you, before we get you
out of here, the new podcast is called Own Congratulations to James Dolan for somehow sneaking out
without getting in the top five. But you have become a bit of a social media and presario,
can you tell me how it is that that community worked for you, how it is that what is the backstory for how it is that you developed a place where people find things virally
very quickly?
Pure accident, but I'm sure I've told you this before, but I was, you know, I watched
a lot of basketball and one day it was on, this was years ago, seven, eight years ago.
I'm watching a video on Twitter or X or whatever
the hell you want to call it now. And it's a school of dolphin swimming out or swimming
into shore as a guy's paddle boarding out and one dolphin jumps up, strikes him right in
the chest and knocks him off the paddle board and I just said to myself, that's a king charge.
And so I tweeted out blocker charge.
Is this a blocker charge?
And I guess some sports people found it clever,
funny, whatever.
And it started this stupid Twitter thing that I have
and now people just send me funny videos to put out.
So I guess it's fine.
It's just weird.
You sound wildly bored by it.
Thank you, well, Greg.
It sounds a bigger thing. Thanks for being on with us. Always good wildly bored by it. Thank you, well, it's on the bigger thing.
Thanks for being on with us.
Always good seeing you, sir.
Thank you for making the time.
Thanks, fellas. Always.