The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Everyone Is A Court Jester
Episode Date: July 25, 2024Amin Elhassan joins the show to discuss the intricacies of the comments from Gilbert Arenas and Paul Pierce toward South Sudan's basketball team ahead of their matchup with Team USA and Luol Deng's re...sponse to those comments. We examine how Luol took the high road, the xenophobia soaked into what they said, the racism these players have faced over the years, and the Top 5 People Who Make Amin Feel Like a Piece of Shit. Then, Greg finally gets his chance to question Ron Magill's Africa story, and Deshawn Foster gets off to rough start as a Big 10 Head Coach. Plus, it's time for Thursday Thunder, a show spelling bee, and, as we discuss our Olympic sport coverage draft, Jeremy ruins everything with wokeness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast.
Every day except for Monday, Aminah O'Han and Charlotte Wilder, they put together Oddball.
It is a quirky, fun, super-informed look at things throughout basketball and beyond.
I don't know, because I have been away, I don't know how Amin has felt about USA team basketball
and South Sudan's near victory over team USA
I hypothesized last week that I thought that if South Sudan had won that game that I would imagine it to be one of the great
Sporting achievements in the history of Sudan, but I don't know the the history so I may have that wrong
I want to talk to Amin about that and some other things including I mean
that wrong i want to talk to me about that and some other things including i mean
paul pierson gilbert arena saying the following of the game before the south
sudan game paul pierson man they probably even got nobody over six three
over there they got basketball teams out there do they even got basketball courts
out there anywhere
and then uh... gilbert arena said amma among other things come on man cool
runnings were not supposed to lose to, cool runnings, we're not supposed to lose
to the cool runnings team, they don't even have shoes,
they get their shoes from America,
we gotta ship them shoes, they don't even have basketball
rims, we're losing to people who got baskets in the back,
they shoot on bleeping peach baskets in dirt, no shoes.
Now Luau Dang, always classy Luau Dang,
gave a long response to this and I will read only
parts of it and then I will go to a meme.
But he says, I normally don't pay attention to these types of comments, but as an African,
a leader in my community and the president of the South Sudan Basketball Federation,
I feel it is important to respond.
This is for those who have asked about these comments, those who are offended by them and
everyone who has followed our stories.
Growing up, I heard many similar comments and those very remarks are some of the
things that motivated me to change the narrative. Africans now show solidarity
and support for each other more than ever. Moments like this are not for us
to get upset and lash out. Many Africans and black people who embrace their
African heritage are working hard to bring all black people closer to
educating and sharing stories and historic moments. As for Gilbert's
comments, they were certainly more disrespectful and cruel. Personally, I
don't care much. I would never trade places with anyone. Being African is
special. I will continue later in this conversation, but I mean your general
thoughts as you saw all of this unspool. Well, Dan, first and foremost, you know,
South Sudan, gonna do a little you know, South Sudan, I'm going to do a little geography
lesson.
South Sudan is a different country from Sudan.
South Sudan seceded from Sudan in 2011.
It is the youngest country in the world.
And even though there are many South Sudanese people who live in Sudan and many Sudanese
people live in South Sudan, and we might share some customs and some heritages.
They are two different countries. Having said that, I always have love and joy for South Sudan.
To me, it's still one big country and I supported their independence and watching them
do anything is always something of joy and happiness to me. When it comes to Team
USA Basketball, many will be shocked because of my stance on US men's national team soccer,
but I am a huge fan of Team USA Basketball. I want them to see, to be good. I think USA
basketball being great is great for the sport. I helped the gold medal team in 2008. I was doing advanced scouting for that team.
So I'm always rooting for Team USA.
I'm always rooting for Team USA, except Saturday.
I was rooting for South Sudan because this is something that cuts as close to home as possible.
And it would have been the greatest upset, certainly in the sport, maybe in the history of all sports.
Because when you consider the lack of resources available, the relative newness of this program, what they've been able to accomplish, it's nothing short of remarkable. This is Miracle on Ice, this
is Rudy, this is every single, you know, the Hoosiers, this is every single one of those
This is every single, you know, the Hoosiers, this is every single one of those hokey Disney style movies of a Goliath versus a David and David almost won on Saturday.
I just, you know, to me it was, it was, I got texts and calls from people during the
game, are you watching this?
People who don't watch basketball.
And so it went from, okay, they're up, all right, pretty good, okay, all right, here
comes a third quarter run.
Well, it was nice while it lasted.
Then realized, no, these guys aren't backing down.
You actually got a chance to win this game.
And you know, for it to come down to that last play, when you gave me under the basket,
what might have been?
How do you got that win, how he got that done?
Well, I do want to talk to you about what might have been,
but just for the commentary between
Dang and Arenas and Paul Pierce,
I will continue to read from this,
because Luau did treat all of this as a teachable moment.
He says, I'm not upset or angry at these ignorant remarks
made by my former colleagues.
I was more disappointed to see them
coming from two individuals. I've always respected the remarks made by my former colleagues i was more disappointed to see them coming from two individuals i've always respected the
comments made by paul pierce showed misinformation a lack of research
however he used it as a teachable moment to shed positivity once he was informed
thank you to paul pierce for apologizing that i can respect what was your take
because we're talking before you came on here mean about what's happening in
sports media where the luau dan show will lose to whatever paul
pierce and gilbert arenas are making
uh... i i don't think the luau dang show loses i think it wins i think that what
you just read right there
is an example of luau winning
uh... and you might look at the look at me louis sounder ready here but
i'm i'm gonna say every once in while, you come across people in your life
that are so good as human beings,
not only at what they do professionally,
but who they are as people,
it makes you reevaluate yourself and think,
damn, I'm a piece of shit.
Grant Hill, I felt like that around Grant Hill,
I feel like that around J. Cole,
and Luol Deng is on that around J. Cole, and Luol
Deng is on that very short list of people.
Luol makes me want to be better because I'm not doing enough.
And this is a guy who's always done it the classy way, and this isn't his first time
with controversy specifically towards his nationality, towards his ethnicity.
If you remember the Danny Ferry thing, where Danny Ferry read a scouting report that he got from some source saying that Luol is the African
guy who sells you fake goods on or whatever that ignorant racist comment was. You know,
and Luol, if it was me, I would have lashed out. I would have called Danny Ferry every
name in the book, the Atlanta Hawks organization as a staff record label and an MF and crew, but Luol didn't do that.
He took the high road and that's why he always reminds us
that that is how we should all aspire to be
and that's why I always think Luol's a winner
and you can see it in that program.
That program doesn't get to where it is
with someone filled with vile and vitriol.
It gets there with someone who's filled with positivity in class and
shout out to L'Oll.
Having said that, I am friends with Gilbert Arenas.
I am friends with Paul Pierce.
And I understand what they were going for.
They were going for the quote unquote funny, despite, like I said, this being an incredible
sports story, they went for the funny and the problem is in our society today we have a big
issue dividing or sparsing parsing between this is information and these
are guys that's making jokes. You know I'm always team comedy
whether joke is bad or good or in good taste or bad taste it's a joke. The
problem is people look to Gilbert Arenas as
an expert. People look to Paul Pierce as an expert. Now, maybe Paul more so because he's
on a mainstream linear TV show versus Gilbert just mouthing off on his podcast. But the
reality is what Luol said stands. And in that moment where there was an opportunity to support something that hasn't
gotten support that isn't getting love from left and right.
You could have supported it instead they chose to make a joke and I know it's in them to
do that because I hear how Gilbert Arenas goes so hard for Bronnie James as he should.
I think Bronnie gets a lot of unfair criticism.
Gilbert defends him and sticks up for him
It's it's the same thing except South Sudan doesn't have a rich famous dad
Who's the best to ever do it South Sudan is the little engine that could I saw a lot of criticisms that were saying that like
Not only were these comments very xenophobic
but they also were just ignorant of international basketball and sort of what the the progress that's been made with the
Basketball Africa League, I believe it's called so I'm curious like if if that's something that you think that people who are talking about
Team USA on TV should be educated on before they speak about these sorts of things or if you think they're just going for an easy
Joke, and they're not really there to inform anyone.
The question of questions. No, Jessica, it's a great question of questions, Jessica, because
first and foremost, it starts in the production meeting. Is there a production meeting? Or is,
are they just showing up, getting makeup done, sitting down? Like, what's the topic? Okay,
I got it from here. Right? That it starts there. Do they want to be educated? Right?
The South Sudanese team, forget about basketball Africa, they got NBA players. William Gabriel is an NBA player,
right? JT Thor is an NBA player. Peter Jock has been in the G League and on the fringes of the
NBA. There's a bunch of guys on that team who are either NBA players or fringe NBA players to the
G League, basketball Africa league, et cetera, right. So it's not like a bunch of wild unknowns
that came from beyond the wall.
They're like, oh, who are these guys?
We know who these people are.
If you watch basketball, even on a cursory level.
The other part about this that's so important to recognize
is that Lual, a lot of this program
is out of Lual's pocket.
There isn't this massive federation
like we have in USA basketball that fund raises year round,
brings in millions of dollars from sponsorships
and is able to pay for camps and stuff.
Lual's done this out of his pocket.
A lot of these players were kids that grew up
going to Lual den camps.
And by the way, yes,
there are no indoor courts in South Sudan.
A lot of these players grew up in either America or Australia
Or elsewhere in the world, you know
Why because they're all victims of one of the math biggest refugee crises in the history of mankind
So not only is it hey, we don't have a lot of resources in our country. Not only is it?
Hey, we don't have a lot of people
Rooting for us. These are people who are coming from the most dire
backgrounds, who grew up away from their homeland, who had to be, experience xenophobia and racism
from a very young age. Yes, in Lincoln, Nebraska. Yes, in Des Moines, Iowa. Yes, right here,
Cedar Rapids, right here in our country. These guys have been victims of extreme racism
after leaving a humanitarian crisis from their homeland.
And yet they all come back, they answer the call,
and they represent their country.
They represent it like Lua with class and dignity,
but also with a determination to be successful.
There are guys on this team
that are gonna get NBA looks, I hope.
And by the way, that includes gonna get NBA looks, I hope.
And by the way, that includes head coach Royal Ivy, longtime assistant coach in the league,
former NBA player.
This is a guy when we start talking about who should be a head coach, take a look at
Royal Ivy because he does it without fancy courts and millions of dollars and all that.
He does it with a bunch of determined young men.
Going back to like the importance of what this close game
kind of meant for that federation too,
I read that it's been, part of the challenge
has been getting players that do have dual citizenship
to play for the South Sudanese team
because they have grown up in other places
and so getting them invigorated to play for South Sudan
has been part of the challenge.
So going forward, how big of a deal was it that
they're now, you know, playing on this huge stage with Team USA and showing that they're
going toe to toe with some of the best American players? Well, Jessica, I'll give you a great
example from elsewhere on the continent. Nigeria is going through this issue right now,
where they have, if you look at the players of Nigerian descent in the WNBA,
have, if you look at the players of Nigerian descent in the WNBA, they've got a team that should compete for a medal.
If you just went by, hey, who's Nigerian, right?
The problem that many of them are going through is not only dual citizenship, but these arcane
FIBA rules that say, well, if you played for Team USA as an under 15 or under 17, you can't
play for, you can't switch basically to another national team.
And that makes it hard because again, many of these kids, as you said, grew up not in their homeland,
and they're taking advantage of the resources of where they grew up or where they were born
in the, here in the United States and Australia, elsewhere around the world with more developed
resources. But when it comes time to represent their senior national team, they're like,
I kind of want to represent my homeland, but there's a lot of red tape and paperwork that's involved
with that.
So I think, you know, it's hard to tell a kid who's 15, 16 years old, hey, I know you
might have an opportunity to play somewhere else, but just keep that door open for us
down the line because they want to take advantage of those resources.
They want to play at these youth levels and be competitive and be recognized and
move up in the ranks. But you know the reality is the FIBA rules make it hard
for them to switch back. And by the way when I was mentioning great talents on
South Sudan team I cannot stress, come on Malwats. He's going to Duke next year
with Cooper Flag. He was on the biggest Moss sought out recruits he's only seventeen years old we interviewed him on oddball seeking
search his name search oddball all-star weekend and it just a great kid in
another in a long line
of rary classy individuals represents south sudan i mean to final questions
here the first uh... take us next to you as you're watching the final moments of
the game the final moments of the game, the heartbreak
of I was a point away or two points away from watching what would have been the, what you
would have regarded as the biggest upset in the history of sports.
Yes, well at least basketball for sure.
I know someone's going to say, well I'm cricket, someone did this.
I don't care.
I'm just saying it was a big deal.
I was in my hotel room, I was about to do the live show
for Count the Dings that we had on Saturday,
which was a great success.
Shout out to Balmany Jones and Nick Wright
and Pablo Torre and everybody else who came out,
Naima Cochran, it was a great night.
But it was that afternoon and they were cleaning my room
and it wasn't on TV anywhere,
so I was watching on my laptop in the hotel lobby,
it was this swanky New York hotel
and everyone's having their little cocktails
and checking in and having a great time.
And JT Thor hits that three and I went berserk
and everybody in the lobby turned out like,
what's going on?
I even had a woman ask me,
are the soccer games still going?
She thought I was rooting for Copa America
or something like that.
And instead I was watching that game
and that last shot,
Carlique Jones goes up for the floater
Then I thought I don't know if that one's going in and he missed it
And when I saw when you Gabriel grabbed the rebound said, oh my god
Is this about to happen right now and I I was gonna freak out if it did, you know
He got stripped. Did he get fouled by Anthony Edwards? Who knows?
But the reality is it was an exhibition game. It didn't really count. They're going to meet again in the group stage.
Team USA will take this challenge a lot more seriously.
But like Jessica implied the symbolism of it and like, Hey,
we got something here. We're, we're, we're close. We're not as far.
We're not Angola. We're not, you know,
the Vatican or whatever small country that gets demolished over here in the Philippines.
Yeah, I don't know.
The Vatican.
The Vatican.
The Vatican.
The squad they have there, Dan.
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The squad. The squad. The squad. The squad. The squad. The squad. Yes in this back and forth. It's easy to see dignity rise above the two court jesters
But the two court jesters are the one who have media jobs that are lucrative luau d'ang giving you classy information
I'm not sure that wins in
2024 as a show as luau d'ang is now talking to you every day about sports the way Gilbert Arenas and Paul Pierce are
talking to you every day about sports the way Gilbert Arenas and Paul Pierce are. Look, there's never going to be a shortage of people who are here just for the jokes
or just for divisiveness or just for something disrespectful to be said.
I'm not saying that day is going to end, but I think we all crave some of that positivity.
We all crave some of that clout.
And it's not just in sports shows and it's not just in media overall. It goes all the way to the highest levels of that positivity. We all crave some of that class. And it's not just in sports shows
and it's not just in media overall.
It goes all the way to the highest levels of our country.
We crave a time where people had dignity and class
and the loud mouth jokester was one guy.
We used to have one court jester
and then a whole court of nobles.
And now it's like flip-flop.
We've got a court of court gestures
and a couple of noble people.
But I think we all crave that return.
And as long as we support it,
and it's good, then I think it always has a place.
Thank you, Amin.
Even though the Zoom was choppy, that was well put there.
The dismount was excellent.
It's no longer, that's a great appraisal for just the state of sports media.
A couple of nobles and everyone else is a court jester.
Thank you, Amin, appreciate it.
Oddball every day except for Monday.
You really should listen to it
because him and Charlotte are doing it differently
than almost anyone in the space.
Hold on, do we have time for Amin to do a top five list
of people that make him feel like a piece of shit?
Because he already gave us three,
I think we just need a couple more.
All right, let's see if we can fill out this list.
I was gonna hit him the look at me Louis on J. Cole,
the way he snuck that in there.
Oh come on, what are you doing there?
No, that he's just so close to J. Cole
that J. Cole makes him feel like a piece of shit.
It's a way of him telling us that he's close to J. Cole.
Number five, I mean, people who make you feel like a piece of shit. It's a way of him telling us that he's close to J. Cole. Number five, I mean, people who make you feel
like a piece of shit, number five.
Dan, it's a five way tie at number one.
I can't rank these people, but I'll give you five names.
All right, number five.
J. Cole, J. Cole.
Thank you.
Number four.
Okay, Grant Hill.
You can elaborate at the end. Number three. Luol Deng.
I've known him for 20 years. Fresh stuff now. Number two. Oh, you wanted me to elaborate.
Number two. Mom. Number one. There it is. Computer buffer ad. Number one. There it is. Computer buffer ad.
Number one.
Oh, and my sister.
My sister.
I said my parents, right?
Yeah, he meant to say dad and then the computer buffer.
I'm glad we stayed with you there.
See you later.
I mean, thank you for being on with us.
I appreciate that my first goodbye was not the last goodbye.
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Don Lebatard. Ron, I can't walk around my house naked because I fear that the cat would be
traumatized. Stugats. Like if your cat or dog suddenly saw you nude walking around your house,
how would they react to that? What would they think? Probably wondering why I don't have
spines at the end of my penis.
Yeah, like a cat. This is the Dunn-Levatar Show with the Stugats!
Greg Cody, can you explain to me a little more?
That was a great ending.
Yeah, just wonderful. Almost as good as the ending to yesterday's show.
Does that neutralize my question of course it is it you you you have undermined the
question of questions i thought he was gonna say like john skipper i don't know
i think it's a may i'm disappointed i didn't make a me as a first stunning
that you would make everything about uh... the omission or the inclusion of
you and a big surprise i got it
why
were you questioning ronill's story, Ron McGill's claim that he almost died in
Africa gored by a buffalo?
Yeah.
I've heard that privately you're questioning this.
Apparently not privately because now you're talking about it on your program.
You know, I needed more details right uh... like was anybody the buffalo
uh... a buffalo right uh... supposedly ran rough shot over a tent why is video
showing a warthog
i think these are just ron's again that kind of thing
exactly what questions do you have i did not animal is that
uh... that's an antelope there's an elephant we love elephants okay uh...
what is it that you're antelope there's an elephant we love elephants okay what is it that
you're questioning specifically because i did not witness this i did witness the aftermath of it and
i did witness a counselor being flown into an airstrip specifically to speak to ron mcgill
because when this kind of thing happens it is a trauma of you know a pretty high order so a
counselor was flown into a very remote place to talk to ron mcgill because of
how close he was to death and how he fell into his wife's arms weeping
because he knows if she had been there she would have died because she would
not have had the animal expertise that ron does right to uh... to not scream not make the noise that will make the animal
bring the animal to you who flew in that counselor
the the the place that uh... organized and helped organize the trip why is that
your question i was just curious
did did uh... the endowment ron's endowment pay for that
come on the committee for the air is me over there so it's also i'm curious such a what you're trying to see
is whether there's a financial scandal around ron's lie of a story
for buffalo tail fish tale of a story that he came close to die
uh... what i saw this is what i saw in the aftermath of it right it happened in
the dark at six o'clock in the aftermath of it, because it happened in the dark at six o'clock in the morning. I saw the tent that had been destroyed, and I saw that the panicked people in the tent
that had been destroyed were mortified because of the number of things that broke inside
of the room they were in, because the animal was bucking and crazed and scared and very
close to where Ron was hiding.
Yeah.
I mean, thank God Ron
wasn't injured. That's all I can say. It's not all you can say though,
because you've been questioning how close he was to actual death. Okay, I
haven't talked to Ron about this. I haven't heard the story firsthand, and so
I tend to be a little bit skeptical about the near-death
experience until it's explained
to me.
But if Ron says that he was terrified and in his long career working with animals and
eye-witnessing animals in the wild, if he says this was the closest he's come to fearing
for his own life, I believe him.
If I ever do this kind of trip, I'm not getting up in the dark and walking around.
I'm just gonna be like, I'll be here, you go out,
I'll see you when you get back.
Right, I'm also not sleeping in a tent.
Well, I mean. Insane.
You think it was a real tent?
I mean, that's the trouble when you hear the word tent.
You assume it's like a little pup tent or something.
I'm sure it was a magnificent tent quote-unquote tent
It was probably you know, 10 amount to a luxurious hotel room was a con tent but still
God bless ron mcgill
You know what i'm saying?
No, I don't actually because you were questioning it
It's a misnomer that I was questioning and and jessica's right that it's not like it's 10 times a tent.
It's a tent, but it's a tent.
And it was, it is like the sides of it are fabric.
But it has a foundation.
Hold on a second.
What makes it a tent?
Cause a tent, you know, back in my day,
what a tent would be, you'd put a stake in the ground
and you would tie a rope to it
and then tie another rope to another side. What is a tent over there?
Ron was hiding behind one of those ropes. So there was a rope involved?
Yeah, but it's 10 times the size of what you're probably imagining a tent is. It has a toilet.
That's probably not something that you're imagining with the tent it has a floor it so it's not it's not dust and sand or what so what is a tent you
guys tell me you guys tell me not a tent room service that the tent has room
lamp in it the tent had a pool no that that did not know the tents did not have
a refrigeration but you had your own pool.
No refrigeration. No refrigeration. You had AC? I had to sleep with hot water bottles and I had to
sleep in a burrito of blankets. Like a burrito of blankets. That's what got the buffaloes ire.
He's looking at his luxurious tent going, who are these show-offs living in it's not the hot water bottle suggests that there's not heat
There's not like it was changing 50 and 60 degrees in temperature
And so hot water bottles are not the most luxurious and the best way to handle that situation
Or any of you quote, why would you question Ron McGill in any way about?
About a story about almost dying. I wouldn't.
You did. You're getting that second hand.
Who do you hear that from?
You were skeptical.
I trust my sources.
Well, I've also gotten second hand the information
that four of your rim tires are bent
because you're a terrible driver.
Okay, you know, that's, listen, I'm on record.
The only thing I've ever made fun of Ron McGill for
is being proud of being in a hot dog dance
All of fame other than that Ron McGill is like a god to me
You know he co-wrote the pride of a lion book with me. I mean we're collaborators. We're friends
You know he's gonna be at my at my yacht birthday party
I mean he'll be the tallest guy there the room is wondering about a mean he was just on with us
We haven't really discussed him has he been invited to your 70th
birthday party? Have not discussed that internally or externally. It's very likely
he might be. That's not an endorsement. Although he didn't put me on his top five. That is not it.
People that make him feel like a piece of shit. Yeah. You'd want to be on that
list. Yeah I thought I might win five. Speaking of terrified, I want to play the press conference
sound of Deshaun Foster being introduced at UCLA.
I wonder if most people had the same reaction I did,
which is not to poke and laugh, but to simply feel bad
because someone choked in a big moment.
Here is your introductory press conference.
You are the face and voice for a team team We are going to introduce that face and voice to the enthusiasm of our customers and it goes like this
Coach Foster, welcome to the Big Ten. We'll begin with your opening statement
How you guys doing I'm happy to be here
Glad to be a part of this great
conference. Finally putting two great emblems together UCLA and
the Big Ten. We're a school that's won what 123 championships
so this fits us being right in this conference football wise
Which is excited, you know
I'm sure you guys don't know too much about UCLA, but our football program, but we're in LA
It's us and USC
We USC We
In closing
She I'm just basically excited that's it
Any questions? Oh god, that was hard to watch
Yeah, that is so that was not his introductory press conference But he's in his first year as coach and that was hard to watch. Yeah, so that was not his introductory press conference,
but he's in his first year as coach,
and that was Big Ten Media.
It was the introduction of,
hey coaches, come out here and talk about our conference
and your excitement to be in our conference,
and that was not excitement.
I can relate to that so much.
The first two years I worked on this show,
so many times I would just be mid-sentence,
like what was I saying?
Where am I?
Oh man, do I relate to that.
You know what's going sideways
when you start doing geography?
You're like, we're in LA.
So with USC, you know.
This is a really easy one to come back from.
Say, I was too busy doing my job,
doing football stuff to write a speech.
You want a speech writer, get someone else. I'm doing football here, doing football stuff, to write a speech. You want a speech writer?
Get someone else.
I'm doing football here, all right?
I told Sullivan we should try to get him on the show,
be like, you get another crack at it.
Go ahead, we should.
We should try to get him on.
I don't think he's in the mood to have fun with this.
No?
What if it was a gentle landing spot,
because you're providing him some understanding.
I'm not sitting here laughing at it,
but I believe we're all having the same reaction of,
I went into it hoping I could laugh,
and now I feel really bad.
Somebody's just sitting in the stew
of I have nothing to say.
Silence, like eight seconds,
and then I'm not happy to be here.
Yes.
Is what I mean by all of this.
But we're in LA.
Yeah, that was great.
Selling your school by just saying geographically
where it is and then staring at us and daring us not to be silent. Like just staring at
the media and being like, well, what do you guys got? Nothing? I'm up here alone, huh?
We're in LA is all I got in my whole story. USC. You know who else is in LA? USC. And you could have just started naming things in LA.
Where's Lincoln? Huh? Lincoln Riley? Anybody? Cafe Marmont.
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Where it can be a creaking door,
it can be an orchestra tuning up before a concert
and the bassoon is a little bit off key
and it comes out like that.
Stugats!
The musical fart.
It's a beauty.
It is a beauty.
F*** me!
Sorry, shit. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Double chocolate cookie.
And a chicken bake.
Three booms.
Boom.
Boom.
Boom.
They love everything.
They never give anything doom anything to know they give a
couple things to do give one doom they made a pizza one time they didn't like
and he gave it a doom really yeah big justice did classic I hope you guys do
more of that on mystery crate I'd like to do my own show that doesn't involve
those memes so can you just put the boom and doom memes somewhere in mystery
crate so that I can get on
with the proceedings here.
With Thursday Thunder, please,
can we get the Thursday Thunder music?
You forgot, yeah, of course you did.
You've been yelling at me for two days.
Remember Thursday Thunder.
Gotta stick in Thursday Thunder.
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Tony, what do we got?
A juju-gadi-cooked-up parlay here for Thursday Thunder.
We're going to start USA versus Serbia Sunday at 11 15 AM.
We're going to go over on bam at a bio points.
Only 6 and 1 half points only six and a half
Only six and a half. Is he gonna play he scored two points in an all-star game where his team scored 200
Oh, you know, come on. That's that's have you been watching him with team USA Dan. Come on
He's he's been their best pick. He's playing well. He's just not scoring
Okay, second leg of the parlay Tom Aspin all fighting for the interim heavyweight championship of the world, the UFC this Saturday.
UFC 304 MMA hangout via Casa Tiki, by the way, we are taking Tom Aspinall money line against
Curtis Blades in the rematch for the second leg of the parlay. Third and final leg, we are taking
King Green Bobby just changed his name. So it is Bobby Green versus Patty Pimlet Patty the baddie
We're taking Bobby Green who's gonna beat the brakes off of Patty Pimlet at UFC 304
So again, Bobby Green moneyline Tommy Aspitt on money line Bama to buy over six and a half points
That is your Thursday Thunder. Tell me more about what you're doing Saturday, Tony
Those have gotten to be fun and different and off the grid what are you doing to celebrate
all your love of love of the mixed martial arts on Saturday. So UFC 304
we've got a very nice car Leon Edwards versus Bala Muhammad and their rematch
and Tom Aspinall versus Curtis Blades the second fight there we're going to
Casa Tiki on Calle 8 friends of the show we're gonna have a bunch of people hanging out there
watching the fights. Very exciting Dan. UFC again nobody sells the the holy shit
that Dana White sells on UFC is incredible when it's the biggest stakes
across the globe. They're doing it in London so it's gonna be fun. And you're
doing it on Calle 8. And we're doing it on Gaiocho. We're doing a try Joe, baby extra Latin style
You mentioned Bobby green. I heard I learned the other day. Did you guys know that Kid Rock's name is Bob?
Bob Rock
Kid Bob
Kid Bob Bob. I
Learned this just the other day. I was not aware. It doesn't really work the same when your name is Bob
Kid Bob, Kid Bob.
I'm gonna call him Kid Bob from now on.
Let's go to Bob Bob.
Robert James Ritchie.
Do you guys know Joe Biden's middle name?
What is it?
Tell me.
It's R something, right?
I can't remember.
It's Robinette.
It's what?
What?
I did not know that.
Put it on the poll, please, Juju at LeBotard Show.
Did you know Joe Biden's middle name was Robinette?
Did you know Kid Rock's name was Bob?
Rb put that on the poll as well
At lebatard show a couple of things that I wanted to clean up from earlier in the show
Jessica Jessica suggested to me while Dave's iron was on and I wasn't able to do
it, I didn't have the window to do it, to get Tony or Chris to try and spell ennui.
And I'm two hours late to this, but I just want to see if you guys want to give it a
crack between the two of you. I'll allow you to team up if you want to, if you want to
combine your brain power
to spell the French word ennui.
I don't think either one of you.
H-E-N-R-Y.
Their famous soccer player?
Yeah, ennui. Ennui?
Cause that one I got.
Is it one word or two?
It's one word.
It's five. Ennui.
We should do it spelling bee style.
Do we have imaging for this, Chris?
I don't think that we can all of a sudden
put together spelling bee imaging.
Greg Cody is our resident wordsmith.
Do you want to define Anui?
Before anyone guesses, can we just get a first letter guess
from Chris or Tony?
Oh.
Can I get a definition?
I need to visualize what it is I'm talking about.
Give us the definition.
You want me to spell it?
No, we don't want you to spell it.
That's gonna undo what we're trying.
We need to spell it.
Like, what are you doing?
We asked you for the...
On we, I think I know what it means,
but I'm not positive.
I think it means subtlety or like...
Doesn't have boredom in it?
Doesn't on we have sort of a boredom in it?
I'm stunned, Greg. You were playing along as if you know, but, doesn't have boredom in it? Doesn't Ennui have sort of a boredom in it? I'm stunned, Greg.
You were playing along as if you know,
but you don't have any idea.
E-N-N-U-I.
Greg!
Go sit in the penalty box.
You're gonna doubt him.
Is that the definition?
This is the thing, I'm not gonna take a quiz
until I know the answer.
I don't know that's right.
Just get out of here.
I was guessing.
I am filled with a great sense of Ennui
that my game did not work out the way that I wanted. Ghosts. How do you spell it? I don't know that's right. Just get out of here. I was just I am filled with a great sense of ennui that my game
Did not work out the way that I wanted to go. How do you spell it? I don't get it
This is gonna be a major. It's not gonna be a minor
We've got a penalty five minutes major asshole
I still don't think Tony knows how to spell it. Did he give us a definition? He
said things that I know what it was. I remember what it starts with. Oh my God,
the first letter is important. I do think they'll both get it wrong anyway,
even though and we on we E N Jeremy, look at me. What don't remember. Yes. Oh, and on we W E I on we used to play
video games on we we need to celebrate on we need to the Paris games and the
fact that Greg and Jessica and Jeremy still have not drafted. There are very
few remain angle for dad here. Yeah, not great. There are very few remaining sports. Great angle for my dad here.
Yeah, not great work.
I actually, I have some beef here because.
Same.
This all happened while I was working from home yesterday
and Chris got to pick beach volleyball,
which is I've declared on this show before,
is my favorite Olympic sport of like the non sports,
you know, like outside of soccer, basketball.
I'll make a deal, we can make a trade.
Okay. Then nevermind, let's make a trade.
This is ridiculous.
Well, the beef, I need to explain to people first
exactly what it is that I'm talking about in the event
they were not listening to yesterday's show.
Each of us was to take an Olympic sport
or two Olympic sports, I took one break dancing
that we are going to do the equivalent of Jessicaessica's f one minute uh... which i missed this week i would
have liked uh... because the racing was pretty spectacular i had a good one in
the and the can but were holding it for next week will be back with sponsor i
won't say who it is but pretty big deal okay so we've got a sponsor but i'd like
to uh... i could to basically inform the audience a lot of times what happens around here that's one of the cooler things that
happens with the weird sports allegiances here is all of a sudden the
chief of the panthers are making a championship run and all over america
people are interested in the panthers because our stupid show is showing some
fandom
if you guys can muster some passion uh... it's going to be a bit of a sales
job what we're going to be trying to do with these minutes in this sport
where we each draft the sport and then show you some sort of expertise on why
it is you should care about what it is that's happening in that sport mine is
breakdancing is the only one that i talk
i was soon informed by everyone that america is not the front runner in
breakdancing that uh... that america would be pulling off an upset
so i'm gonna learn some of that stuff with you guys
but jeremy do you have any beef now because jessica
i don't know how this trade is going to work but if chris is just going to give
you beach volleyball which i imagine was something he just wanted to watch people
bouncing around in bathing suits is what i think that chris was trying to do
there
or you painting is this lecture is so i just i enjoy the sport. I used to play middle school volleyball.
Oh man, what I wouldn't give to see video of that.
We talk volleyball all the time, me and Danny B.
He asked me to come out and give a clinic to his team.
There's no longer a beef, Jessica, between you and Chris
because he's going to trade you without even telling you
what it is that he gets in return.
He's just giving up beach volleyball like that.
That's correct.
Okay.
Trade rescinded.
All right.
Oh!
I'm not the one who accused you.
It's Dan's fault.
Okay.
I have some beef here, if I'm being honest,
because I found it very interesting,
the people that got to select first here.
If you divide this into two groups, right,
you get Dan, Chris, Tony, Billy, and Mike.
There's a bit of a commonality.
Well, the people that are consistently on this show
like all the time, right?
You get that group.
Then there's a very interesting dynamic here
because you have Greg Cody,
who's slightly on the older side of our cast
who hasn't picked yet.
You have Stu Gotts and myself.
You have Jessica and Lucy, and you have Roy and Juju.
Now I have a very interesting question here
I think that this was not only a just not only anti-semitic not only racist not only sexist
But a coordinated attack against the rest of the minorities at this show as the straight white men
Here on our show got to select first. I think it's ridiculous and it's not what the Olympics is supposed to be about damn
Yeah, he's not on here Olympics is supposed to be about damn Zazalish Jewish
He's not on here consistently it ruined my bit. I'm Cuban. I'm so am I Dan
You're also white. So is every other guy on the show. We're all white
We're all Cuban and white. Yeah, white passing but but I'm a minority
Right, but it's a different type. Come on. He's doing it white Christians straight the whole thing the draft is anti-semitic
Yeah, means to God's does that mean the schedule is also all of those things. I sure I don't know
I I just want teams picked. I just want
I just okay. Just make sure to let me know Greg. What does he have to do here?
What is Greg gonna do for us because Greg? I don't know what he's doing right now that's not
listening to the show i'm listening i'm i'm participating because i'm
researching the sport i'd like to choose if there's any less
because i feel like i'm the last person
go ahead and i was well i'm i'm still researching it here okay well let's uh...
let's recoup
uh... let's let's rebound from what it is that we've done already here, because clearly no one's prepared for this.
If all that's gonna happen is-
I'm prepared to give you badminton and canoeing.
But you don't want beach volleyball anymore?
Well, I only get one sport in return,
because I already have another sport,
and we only get two each, so.
Oh, we get two each?
Yes. How about that?
Right now I have equestrian and beach volleyball.
I heard there was major equestrian drama.
Oh, so much.
I read about it in the New York Times.
I'm all over it.
I'm all over it and I'm gonna deliver those facts on Monday.
Three on three basketball.
All right, you guys let me know who we got.
I don't wanna talk about this anymore.
You guys let me know.
Let's do the rest of this off air.
Did I ruin it with the racism and sexism accusations?
Yes.
I've chosen a sport.
That sounds right.
Again, I can't have my little.
Ooh, Greg.
I've chosen a sport. Beloved escape of sports without accusations and wokeness making an appearance
Greg what have you said to suggest I am picking trampoline. No, it's that
Yeah, you're gonna have ages
You know what Greg Cody did I don't know where this what the status is of your elderly abuse
You know what Greg Cody did, I don't know what the status is of your elderly abuse litigation against Mike Ryan.
It's being litigated.
Yeah, it's being litigated.
Yeah, I can't comment because it's in the legal system right now.
I wanted to get to a couple of things that we have not had a chance to get to with you
today.
You are pining and longing for the return of an Olympic sport.
I sent you to the penalty box earlier before finding out what that sport is you're yearning for its return.
Well this is, it's going to sound like I'm making this up, okay, and you have to believe
me that I'm not and you can research it and find out that it's the truth.
In Paris, which is hosting this year's Olympics, Paris hosted the games in 1900, even before I was born. And they had a sport
called Poodle Clipping. God's truth, 128 competitors performing in front of a crowd of 6,000 in
competitors performing in front of a crowd of 6,000 in Paris and the competition was to clip the fur off as many poodles as you could in two hours.
That was an Olympic sport. Now if that was an Olympic sport right now that
would be everyone's first choice, right? I would love that sport. Poodle clipping?
Yes. Poodle shearing. I would call it poodle shearing if I were naming it a sport. Poodle clipping? Yes poodle shear I would
call it poodle shearing if I were naming it. It's an official name. I would still go for beach
volleyball. Would you over poodle clipping? Tony a couple of corrections from earlier
Tony when you were longing for the Olympic Games from a thousand years ago
some people have written in that they were always in Athens back at the start
they did and the torch didn't rotate around. we told them that during the segment. And also the Olympics were nude at one point.
And? I'm just informing you. You go back to that. You think that so the torch just made a...
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