The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Harbor for Harbaugh
Episode Date: October 30, 2023HEYYYYYYY JUUUUUUUDE. The crew kicks off Hour 1 with Stugotz's Weekend Observations before watching an electric clip from El Chiringuito. After the clip, Stugotz lashes out for having to cut his Weeke...nd Obs short due to the clocks. Then, we dive into the Michigan Football news and all the details that continue to leak out about Jim Harbaugh and the program. Plus, Andrew Hawkins joins us to discuss Pickle Coverage, the awful Jets-Giants game, Patrick Mahomes' greatness, and Tyreek Hill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast.
In this time for Stugat's to share his game notes,
no one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boys to weekend observations
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Dan
that cleared it
He went to LA on a mission and let me be the first to say mission complete because Dan,
after an incredible, grueling, two-week stretch covering the Rams, the Chargers, the Lakers,
the Kings, and UCLA for Metal Arc Media.
Make no mistake about it.
You are back.
Yes, after the big sadano sit down, we went down to...
You did that, huh?
Yeah, we finally, we were hooked him in.
It's the only reason we went.
He was here this weekend, sadata.
He was. He sounds so good.
He sounds great.
So professional on those broadcasts.
He was faking it at the beginning,
and now he sparklers in the sky. He's so those broadcasts. He was faking it at the beginning
and now he sparklers in the sky.
He's so good at it.
He is.
Practice makes perfect.
Could have just waited a week though.
That's all I'm saying.
But you had to cover the teams.
I had to get it before he did the UMF Virginia game.
I had to get it exclusively first.
Speaking of back, Julio Jones.
You already used that one.
I know.
It's just sitting there, I mean.
He was out of the league there
and then he played for the tight.
It feels like yesterday I was hiding behind a pole
at the Atlantis just spying on him playing cards.
It wasn't yesterday.
It was old enough, long enough ago
for a receiver to get old.
Right. I hit something on my phone and now I can't stop getting emails from Rocco mediate
Roxy
Is it roxy it is are you sure it's not rocky?
Are you sure are you sure some people go rocky some people go rock see I go rock see
Are you sure? Some people go rocky, some people go rocky, I go rocky.
But I keep getting emails from the guy.
I mean, he's not gonna fix my golf game enough, you know?
Fixie Ken though.
Are you guys getting a lot of political texts?
I just can't get them to stop.
I cannot get them to stop.
Just like a lot of spam texts actually.
You text back, stop.
I've done it many times.
And then you block the number.
And it adoubles.
They find another way though.
I know, there's always a new one.
Kinda like Wackemoll, but, you know,
it hasn't been as bad for me as the presidential election.
Wow.
Nicola Jokic has a chitch.
The Joker.
Now we see that pass.
Such a great amazing pass.
Amazing, the best I've ever seen.
Mike, what's the macaque?
They're three at home.
Mike, what are you shaking your head about?
Everyone wants to be obsessed with the Joker
and Wemba Niyama.
They should not be having your support throw behind them.
They should be having plenty of advantages.
Yeah, so you are now lamenting the big man in the NBA.
They're too big, it's unfair.
Just, why do they need your help? They don't need any help.
Wimbledon Yamma had a video that he put himself where he has a cell phone at I-length
and I'm convinced he's not a good basketball player now. It's just so easy.
Mike, I'll be right about him. It's like a Fisher Price who might be on something with that.
You're not a sports fan if you're throwing your support behind Wimbledon Yamma.
They must stop him. Skinny legs.
He must be stopped.
He's just not fair.
He's not just doing tall guy stuff, Mike.
That's why he's so good.
Honestly, if you guys may should stick to the tall guy stuff.
I'm gonna kinda want him out there, Drew.
Wow, you're talking down to the side of your mouth there.
Oprah 6 from 3.
Oprah 6 from 3.
Oprah 6 from 3.
Turnovers, fouls.
How about just put two arms up. hustle back on D-Files.
Yeah, get the paint.
Listen to the low early on.
Just hustle back on D-2 hands up.
Just to be clear, your take on women's blocks.
On Wembenjama is basically just to run and dunk and dunk
and block and dunk and block and dunk and block.
Stay close to the hoop.
Just make your string so.
My coaching pop right now. Ah, The diamond backs went with a classic called
fuel bike doubters and we're keeping receipts. The old ones you punch, the D backs, Dan,
you know what the C and Clemson stands for? I do not. It stands for the CW. Next week,
they should play on Comedy Central. Fuel bike by Douders, Dabbo said he couldn't
find it. He didn't know. Thank you. Dabbo said he couldn't find the CW anywhere. Couldn't
find it. Didn't know where to find it. If he found it, he could have watched himself lose.
Not a supernatural fan. Fueled by Douders we're taking receipts is actually a good name for a country music song.
Anna Schwartz and Egermovie.
I didn't think of that.
Yeah, just put her mind.
Put 78-year-old Sylvester Salone on a movie poster and put that underneath his name.
Hey, Dabo, God called.
He wants his money back from the NIL deal that you made with him.
If the committee leaves undefeated Air Force out of the playoffs, they should be tried
for treason.
Kevin Durant said the warriors should retire his jersey someday.
No one gets tried for treason in this country.
The back of his retire jersey. They hate what they win the next presidential election. Should read higher gun.
Trees it. Honestly, I just at this point, I'm just hoping Air Force can feel the team come
bull season. Trees it. They're good because of treason. The falcons. Top five things. The warrior
should put on the back of Kevin Durant's retire jersey. Oh, well, I you chose Kyrie over Curry
Number five
No one chooses the nets
Number four, thanks for stopping by
Number three sugar
Number two if you can't beat them, join them.
Thanks, Mike.
Number one, zero rings.
Here come the magic.
Dusty Baker said this is not goodbye.
Just see you later.
Hey, Dusty, make up your mind.
Also, this
two cats is strong in you. Who does that? I do. I, okay, a
moment of self-respect. Who do you think you are? I am. In the
event you work at, served, everything is just fine in
Athens. Georgia, do it against Alabama.
Aren't you the one who was concerned. I was a couple of weekend.
But everything's fine now.
Yeah, because I'm pretty much the one who I just learned
in the hallway.
They just told me, hey, Dan, the next and Ghanu promo
is going to have you saying how he had no chance.
You killed my daughters and keeping receipts.
Deod Sanders, Florida Gators, Collision Course.
Matt rules better. Miami Hurricanes, the rare wind that felt like a loss
Miami should have had to run gassars after that win. I
Looked up my doctor's new office number and now every time I log on there. He is staring at me
Every time you staring at me now
It's weird log on to what the internet he just logged
on to the internet that's not a thing that people do anymore remember I miss logging on
it was a dialed I got to start it you know what does it mean so old I just click
suffering rapidly closed tabs my doctor
staring at me though I mean you don't
know how to get it off you got mail
oh I missed good bye messenger you you
would log out too it's not the
internet used to communicate that's
right that's right
That's true right here in the show what if they would we would we would you would do it It's still okay. What did you guys you know?
Make the day that I had to pry a well in sin messenger away from them now
Like Gmail has this now. I'm Gmail, but now we don't even communicate
The show was so much better than that would you guys put it like an away message on breaks?
AOL messenger, Ruins show.
PRB bathroom.
USC, the rare 50 burger, with a side of you
should be ashamed of yourselves.
Put this in the something to ponder file.
With everything going on here and around the world,
ask yourself this, should we be wasting any of FBI FBI's time on the Michigan football program?
No need to discuss it now
Absolutely
This is a ponder devote more resources in the ponder file
There's nothing more important. Where's the DA?
Dan you know what the C and Corey Seager stands for I do not Stand for clutch. You know what the G and Arola's Garcia stands for?
Great fruits.
You know what the D and Jacob DeGrom stands for?
Don't get a ring in my personal record book.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Yeah, you were stuck on Garcia, what happened there?
I was trying to make sure there was a G in there.
I was trying to just make sure.
I thought sometimes with your accounting,
it can be a little off.
Garcia.
Yeah, no, I got it. But that's what you asked me what was happening. And I was telling you just make sure I thought sometimes with your accounting it can be a little off. I see it. Yeah, no
I got it
I but that's what you asked me what was happening and I was telling you got it happening zero points plus 10 rebounds
Plus six elbows plus countless perfectly executed screens equals Al Horford
Rangers diamondbacks greatest game one in world series history
Most of you will just have to take my word for it.
I realize that's difficult.
Taking my word for it.
Dan, you know what the C and Conor Stallion stands for?
Stands for Cheater.
Conor Stallions.
Great quarterback name.
Chicago Bulls.
The earliest players only meeting an NBA history paid off.
So good.
After a game.
Why did they just do it before the season started so good.
No one has thrown more meaningful first pitches in Major League baseball history
than George W. Bush.
Mr. President.
Scientists caught sperm. How can I know how can we long for that time?
How is that possible?
Is it done of a first pitch this time?
It passed, yeah.
It was that good.
I still got to just celebrating a time
when that buffooner let us and wasn't good enough.
Mr. President.
And I long for it.
I still got to fill out here with Mr. President.
Scientists got sperm defying one of the major laws
of physics, Sir Isaac Newton, fraud,
the Prince of Physics, my ass.
Wow.
What goes up must come down, are you sure?
Jets, with a rare road win in their home building,
Dan, you know what the P and Purdy stands for?
I do not.
Not proper protocol, though 49ers better be careful of Chris Nakinski, because he might charge them with a murder
of Brock Purdy.
Did you pronounce his name right?
I have no idea.
Okay, that's the concussion doctor.
Strogatz has been making fun of us for using for it.
It wasn't even, it was a neurologist, the former wrestler.
He did want to accuse the dolphins of murder.
She's telling the Niners to be careful. He's out there.
Playing Utah at Salt Lake City on a Saturday night is vastly different than playing them on Saturday afternoon.
One might say the difference is night and day. The Utes.
You like that. The U and Utah stands for you aren't good enough. Duke, still a basketball school, so is Carolina,
death, taxes, and that loss,
Biocla Homa, Brett Venables,
the Bob Stoops is strong in you.
Will Levis, whoa, Dan, you know what the W and Will Levis stands for?
Whoa, good guess, but no, it stands for wow.
Oh.
You really got me off the center.
You led me in.
You baited me and you tricked me.
I can't believe that.
There is a devil comment that has ice volcanoes and horns
that was presumably shot straight from hell
and is headed right for us.
Anyone looking into it?
Anyone else concerned?
Anybody?
I believe that's Ruben Bane.
Horn?
Yes, it has horns.
Horn.
It's a devil comet.
A devil comet with horns.
Shot from hell.
Speaking of hell,
orp riles.
Dan,
those are the weekend observations.
Don Lebatard.
I mean, they used to call me Chris karaoke.
Stugats!
Oh, karaoke.
That back row is bringing it today.
This is the Dan Lebatard show with the Stugats.
I'm going to try Stug, to get to some of these things because I really do want to get to a funny moment that happened with my wife this weekend.
Billy is burning on the World Series and I don't want Game 1 to get lost because it
was a lot of fun and our coverage.
A lot of people, I understand this, are complaining that our coverage as a show has been nobody cares about that world
series and we inundated everyone in America with Panthers talk for many months.
Well, at least one ratings was up. Okay. Well, Roy has a Panthers show now too, Dan. That's
right. Thank you, Billy. That's after the game with Roy, the hot new podcast sensation supported by Billy
Gil. Hopefully Billy will be appearing on it with David Dwork as well. I'll be there.
Every Panthers game I go to, I will be on that post game because he's such a big supporter
of all things Roy and of everyone here after the game with Roy, if you want to find out
right now, what is happening? The logo should be in times of Roman.
When is that after the game?
But I'm not going to be able to get to some of the things that I want to get to
because Mike has put in front of me one of the most magical things that always tickles me.
Okay. This is off of El Classico and is El Cheninguito, who is, for the uninitiated,
just a quintessential Spanish language, television broadcast personality, who is always funny.
It's a show. It's not an individual, it's an ensemble, and it's out of Spain. It errs
in this country on Fox Sports Deportes. And it's appointment television all the time
after big games, but especially if there's an El Classico
where the two biggest teams in Spain,
Real Madrid and Barcelona clash.
And no matter the result, you know it's going to be
overly dramatic.
No one shoots a sports television show,
the way that El Chiringuito does.
It's kind of filmed like 1997 ECW,
with the camera always kind of zooming in, in and out,
weird thunder clashes.
But it is lighting.
But it is lighting.
You would say it is classically Spanish television.
It is like from a different time.
It's a Spanish tabloid, and it's unlike anything
that there is in America, and you don't have to speak
the language to enjoy it.
But if you're ever gonna watch it, watch it after a really dramatic El Classico, like
this year's was.
Barcelona had a 1-0 lead in their really cool Rolling Stones kits because they have a spotify
partnership and then the Rolling Stones were in person to look miserable as Jude Bellingham
bags a brace.
20 years old Jude Bellingham might lay claim to the best English
soccer player we've ever seen at 20 years old unafraid coming from behind and winning
this game almost single handedly against barcelona he's already become a massive superstar
in his homeland but now he is transcended and he's becoming already a real Madrid icon
at such a young age naturally because, because his name is Jude.
Hey Jude is often popularly sung around him.
And this happens where on Cheating Geeta,
they have Barça fans and Real Madrid fans,
and one Real Madrid fan took an opportunity
to take the opportunity.
Ah, hey Jude,
I just want to talk to you,
Hey Madrid, I tu, t'has volgut pel mar, el Madrid l'Utza's per final.
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Belvedering Kito never disappoints.
Why is it that that is not more popular?
Why?
I think it's in Spanish and a hard to find.
But that trans place.
Yeah, I really miss Grant.
There are so many moments where I miss texting with
Grant Wall not to make this all super sad, but texting Grant clips of El Chieninghito always brought
me so much joy. And this was a weekend that I really miss Grant because he would have loved
not just that game, not just the talents of Jude Bellingham, but that clip.
Stugat is lashing out, Mike Ryan, because he wanted to complete his weekend observations, and he had to zip
through them.
He feels a little confined by time constraints, and he had to zip through them, and he had
another page of material that on the fly, a master ad liver, he had to throw to the side,
and we never got to a page of weekend observations and stugots is tired
of not getting to just tired to his best off and is just generally tired because
he's zipping in here on a zip line to do god bless football with a more tired
billy who then gets left with fifteen hours of editing
but this page that that was neglected that hit the cutting room floor do you
want to try it do you want to uh...
it's not a full page is just a handful of you had a a bad top
five in there that could have not
it could have been better yet agree with that you would have saved time you could
have done that nobody doesn't
it's not he doesn't edit them beforehand he edits as he's going then turns
to me and says see what a great job I did I left the page out but then says I
had some good shit in there, we never got to it.
I mean, when does he ever cared about the clock with it?
I appreciate it.
I actually clocked discipline, but he can't cut the top five.
It's a benchmark within a benchmark now.
It's benchmarking.
It was a bad top five to Billy's point.
I wanna hear what you didn't say.
Okay, all right, so let's see,
it doesn't need any accompaniment.
It is so strong, it lives on its own.
Did I do Will Levis?
Whoa.
Yes.
I did. Whoa, one wow.
Yes, you did.
Aaron Rogers NFL coach of the year, collision course,
from one to four p.m. yesterday,
somehow watching the Jets win,
finally made me realize how they're lost to the Patriots.
We're off to a rough start.
Kyle Shad ahead. I'm laughing at the next time. I mean bring up bring up the music. I need to be sad without it
Hold on let's let's say that's good. That's the good stuff. That's the good rock party
Dan you know what to be and rock party stands for
blah blah blah You nailed it.
But you didn't mail.
Whoa.
You just wanted to do that.
That was wow.
That was it.
Oh, it's too bad.
We didn't get to it.
Oh, wait.
Music back.
They tried to write off the Andre Hopkins.
He didn't write back. Oh no.
It's a good one. I mean, it's a good one. I'm going to write away from him because that's a social
video. He's a good one. Come on. Billy, what's wrong? I mean, I feel like we didn't miss much.
No, I cut out the right ones. It was an amazing ad-living job by you. We should have all celebrated it on
the fly. Could have done it before we started, but no, it's so great that he can do and
get and cut the bad stuff. I realize why it skipped overall. Master of efficiency.
But in those weekend observations, Connor Stallions made an appearance and it is a great quarterbacking name. You are not
incorrect, but that is not why he's
in the news. This whole Michigan
thing has been so fascinating
because there's just been a slow
trickle of news every single day
for the last two weeks about it.
And the latest is that according
to the Wall Street Journal,
Michigan was going to offer Harba
a big extension, which now they have
rescinded in wake of the scandal. at least are tabling until there's some sort of resolution.
And also the NFL put out a report that the NFL may not be a safe harbor for harbott.
Wow, that was hard to say.
If you want to go safe haven for harbock was you know what I'm with you though
I'm with save harbor or save save haven this is a tongue twister
tongue twister if you want to coach in the NFL though they might not let him do
that how does that work discipline they claim there's precedent because of
Jim Trustle being discipline when he left college because of NCAA
infractions which is very weird Trust Trust was brought on as like a replay consultant
by the Colton had to serve, I believe,
a five game six mentions.
Six games, I think.
I think it was six games, but it's so weird
because there's also two investigates.
Like Stugat's referenced the FBI investigation.
That's apparently not even related to sign stealing.
That is because of their former co-offensive coordinator who was fired in
January for computer crimes
uh... that is what the fbi's investigating and allegedly that has
nothing to do with the sign stealing stuff so
i don't know what like there has not been too much reporting about what that
entails and what
this guy was actually doing that was he was apparently
using his computer
from shem beckler hall
uh... in unauthorized ways.
And now that is the investigation that the FBI is looking at.
Couple fascinating details from this story is it keeps changing.
The standing offer that would have made Jim Horboh the highest paid coach and the big
10 has been pulled by the school.
There was a, a, a detail that came out in the reporting last week that Michigan was sharing information
on opposing teams to help themselves get into the college football playoff.
Games that didn't actually feature Michigan in them, they were reaching out to staffs
that could have assisted their cause.
And also the detail that TCU was aware of the sign stealing.
Remember the incredible start that TCU got off in that college football playoff and they
had dummy calls that apparently worked against Michigan.
And what I would say is it pertains to Harbaugh and the NFL.
The NFL may end up punishing Jim Harbaugh for doing this in the NFL because I shared with
you that detail last week that I knew someone on a Western Illinois staff that caught someone
from Jack Harbaugh's staff videoing opposing sidelines.
I forgot to mention that Jim Harbaugh was also on that Western Kentucky staff at the
time.
This would apparently go back aways.
Beyond that, do you not find it weird that the NFL would protect its free minor league
by not offering him that's a logic.
That's the logic.
You protect your free minor league, your feeder system
by imposing rules so they don't just get to jump
because the institution will no doubt get punished
but the lead offender.
The idea that Harball would be a fugitive
who could, to my way of thinking,
to go to run into the safe haven of the NFL,
where no morality.
Safe harbor is a-
Even for harbors.
Harbour, harbour.
Harbour for harbour.
Harbour for harbour, haven.
That was the headline.
It said safe harbor.
I didn't make that up.
That wasn't mine.
That's fascinating.
That's fascinating to me.
The Tressel thing was over some tattoos
and I thought that was overstepping.
This is wild.
The idea that you would cost yourself
this kind of money and this kind of opportunity
because the NFL locks you out.
They don't blackball coaches.
They don't do that.
I mean, let's be honest.
You think the NFL cared?
They'd like to have Jim Horbyser coach.
Or you think they care?
Like, did you think it's gonna move the needle
for the NFL?
No, getting to a leap at the date
of another tight end would do more.
It's fascinating to see them protect
their minor league free labor system
that is crowdfunded.
Don Lebatard.
Let's go Islanders,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
two guts.
Let's go Islanders, boom, boom, bump, bump, bump, bump.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with this two guts.
I don't have any idea why it is that Andrew Hawkins came in here and immediately placed
an NFL football at the forefront of everything that we're doing.
The whole Monday, what do you mean?
Is it because you grab footballs?
Whatever room you're in, you're going to grab the football
and you're going to put it in a prominent place.
Just let everybody know what's happening.
I said the tone earlier.
I'm paying.
It's like you would not chose.
OK.
I mean, it's a little unusual, but we are here.
We have not talked that much football today.
We haven't done it enough.
That's what Monday is a four.
Yes.
Just wanted to make sure you guys as minds were right.
Well, I want to talk to you about something specifically
because this was funny.
My wife doesn't have any interest in football.
She's basically horrified whenever she walks past the television
during a goal line stand.
I understand that the rest of us have gotten used to it
and perhaps numb to it.
But what's happening out there is a little bit crazy.
So much so. that in the 90 seconds
that she was around the television yesterday,
on the red zone channel,
which is meant to keep me away from some of these things.
She got the following, right?
She got Scott Hanson saying,
there is bad injury news out of New York.
And so she walked by one time and she says,
of course there is.
Then, right after that, Kenny Pickett is down and shaken up
and she just shouts from the other room, Carnage.
And then she asks, how many times, 90 seconds listening,
how many times are they gonna mention concussions
because they went and did it like three times
in those 90 seconds and she also wanted to know
why wink Martin Dale was in pickle coverage. And she also wanted to know why
wink Martin Dale was in pickle coverage.
But she heard that part from.
That was okay.
Yeah, that was different.
She wanted to know,
there was the only thing that intrigued her.
What's pickle coverage?
That sounds interesting.
It's a brand of speedo.
But it is the game show host.
You feel me back there.
There it is.
It's good.
Oh, no, you didn't get the,
you didn't get the team next lap but you got the off microphone
for its Cody laugh. That Jets Giants games. To God is happy today to be foreign. Brian
Dayball, not since Mario Cristobal has a coach made a decision where you're like, oh,
you just lost the game, a truly terrible game
that saves the jet season.
I mean, in fairness, he had no idea
Zach Wilson was gonna do that,
marched down the field the way he did.
I mean, in fairness, Zach Wilson.
Zach Wilson managed the clock perfectly.
Yes, it did.
He did.
He got it down to a second, what, Billy?
They may have gotten the rare home field clock cooking
even though they were technically on the road.
And the referee, the official, I've never seen it,
like they usually have to go grab the ball
in spot, it just like ran by, touched it,
and kept running just so that they had time to spike it.
Did you see that?
Yeah, I mean, we're taught in practice,
and never leave it to the rest because it is a crapshoot
of what they'll do.
Some will take their time, some will say, hey, we know what you're trying to do. Let me give you a hand here. So you're talking two
minutes real receiver, catch the ball, and then run as fast as you can just to hand it to the ref.
They tell you actually not to set it because the ref will take it, find his spot, walk to a different
place, and then you'll be at liberty of the of the referee. But this one knew what was going on. He gave it to the center and the ref just went and touched it like freeze.
I got out of the way.
He gave him the opportunity to do what they did.
It's the one ref that wouldn't have been like, yeah.
Yeah, no, he was involved in this, which is crazy.
Yeah, to the ball, right.
That's what you want.
That's what you want from the referees.
Yeah.
That's what you want.
That's that's actually like not affecting the game.
Like if he did it the other way
That is although we see it so routinely that is affecting the outcome
We want you just to get out of the way and let us play also giants land him a little bit longer
They never call that just literally one second longer
I'll talk to one that game. Well, no, here's the other thing. Lazar would have kept running had no one tackled him
Like he would have kept running and then someone would tackle him at the 10.
Game would have been over. Yeah, you know, it's crazy that I come and I, I,
I set the tone. I put in the NFL football up here and I'm like, let's talk some
ball and you guys start off with giants, Jets. Maybe the worst football game.
It was a game of the weekend. Yeah, it was.
Does anyone have any stats from that game? I want to be there like 25
punts. There were 15 just in the first round. There were more punts than points.
I saw Zach Wilson's first third down conversion.
It was a run.
He was like, oh for 12 like prior today.
It was the team combined at one point for over 17.
And I felt like I was in the second quarter.
It was horrible. It was rainy.
It was the Giants had a 99.9 win probability
with a minute 20 left.
Tell me about the decision of day Alde kick the field goal there.
He had fourth and one and he decided to kick a field goal.
He could have ended the game with a one yard run.
Yeah, he wasn't feeling good about it.
I don't know.
I mean, we always talk about it when the coach makes a decision.
If it goes right, you're a genius.
When it goes wrong, it's the dumbest thing ever.
But what about the process, though?
Like, yeah, okay, we can criticize any result.
But what about the process?
If I tell you as an offensive player, you're up three.
You're both offensive.
Shit, all game.
You don't trust them.
You can go up six in the rain, kick a field, go.
A lot of things can go wrong there.
Or you can get one yard against a tired Jets defense with Davido as your quarterback.
Yeah, but the Jets defense against a tire jets defense with Davido as your quarterback.
Yeah, but the jets defense is a stout defense.
And you're, which you're scared of
is that they're going to flash as this defense
that we know they can be on this play
because they've gotten emotionally up for it.
And then to your point, you're trusting Zach Wilson
to go down there and score.
And it's like, I understand him taking his chances there.
The New York Giants had negative nine net passing yards
against the jets, the newest
in NFL history.
Mm-hmm.
Record breaking.
It was actually like the same outcome though, right?
Because if they don't get it, you get the ball in the exact same place with the same score.
Here, you're telling them you need a touchdown to win.
If you make it, which you assume, you're going to make it.
And you take more time off the clock.
So it wasn't like a crazy desire.
You just anticipate Graham Gano's going to make the field. No, but here's the problem, Billy, with the call
and why you you should have ran the ball there. The only thing you were able to do yesterday
against the Jess defense was run the ball. Yeah, like Barclay had a good game. They had 203
yards on the ground. They needed one more yard. Did he have a good game? He carried the ball
like 40 times and 128 yards to get that defense. And a lot of their passing yards were also essentially run play.
They just throwing it did Barkley four yards away.
Really airing it out there.
But also in the second half the jets knew they weren't passing the ball.
So they were expecting Barkley and Barkley still got yards.
That's not how to play football in 2023.
When you win, you know, I mean, none of that is how to play football.
Come on.
Four and three.
The thing that I thought was saddest about the Giants game was after Tommy DeVito went
in.
And I forget who the sideline reporter was for that game.
She was saying that his backup is Saquon Barkley in the Wildcat.
If he gets hurt.
And I was like, I already knew that.
That's sad.
I know the Giants forstring is Saquon.
I shouldn't know that.
It shouldn't happen that often.
Barkley averaged 3.6 yards yesterday.
OK.
Hawk, can you explain to me please?
Is it simply that Patrick Mahomes was sick and we don't
understand how sick he must have been to play like that
against the defense that gave up 70 points?
I think it was.
It's a couple of things.
What the chiefs are trying to figure out,
is they need a legitimate player
at why I'd receive it.
That Patrick Mahomes feels good about and can depend on.
And it hasn't shown to be the case for him.
And until that happens, I think it will continue
to look the way it does because you understand, okay,
I'm gonna take away Travis Swift.
Once you take away Travis Swift out of the game,
they don't have a lot of options outside of that, right?
And not only, I mean, sometimes receivers will flash
for the chiefs, but it has not been consistent enough
to patch my home to sit back there and say,
okay, if this isn't there, I'm going here.
I can't even imagine through your eyes
what Tyree Kill looks like, through your eyes versus us,
to, because it's a different angle
or what you're trying to say.
No, because what has happened in Kansas City
and I mean,
Am I your target to the former quickest person on the planet?
Yeah, yeah, no.
I mean, you know, I mean, Tyree Kill
was my favorite while I receiver absolutely.
He's saying you can relate to him.
Yeah, no, of course, absolutely.
And it's what, as a kid at the house,
knowing that I wasn't going to get above 5-8.
I don't mean just relate though,
I mean you must be fascinated to see a receiver
take the balance of offense with him from one team to the other.
At that side.
At that side.
I mean, that's one of the Super Bowl, man.
Oh, got him.
Yeah, no, I mean, that's what I was going to get to.
I don't think that it was straight up,
I'm taking this offense and we're going to Miami with it.
I think there's a lot of factors there
and I think Patrick Mahomes is the best football player
on Earth, and yes, Tyree Keele is the most electric football
player on Earth, but Patrick Mahomes has more than enough
ability to make up for what he's lost in Tyree Keele.
Same player.
He did it.
No, you can't, but he has done it.
And I think the problem is, the more you go,
it happened with Bella Check and Tom Brady as well, right?
Like you put these weapons around
and then somebody shows it'd be really good,
especially at the quarterback position.
And just slowly, it's not malicious on purpose.
You said, okay, well let's see what you can do without this
because we'll now put more resources in these places
or the talent just dwindles and dwindles and dwindles
and I'm not saying that she's don't have talent,
but they have a mindset that everybody is expendable
because we have 50 back there.
But he was sick yesterday, correct?
Like that nine points happens because he's sick, correct?
It was a couple of things, man.
It was drops, it was fumbles, it was the fourth and two sky
more gets a ball.
He couldn't, went out there and handed it to him any better
and he's not making the plays and that hurts momentum
and then the defense gets involved.
Nick Bolton was out. So there's so many factors to it. to him any better and he's not making the plays and that hurts momentum and then the defense gets involved.
Nick Bolton was out.
So there's so many factors to it.
I can't say that I worry about it at all.
Like literally, I know there's a lot of teams that have tough losses this year that we thought
were good and that those losses shouldn't have happened.
The chiefs of the one team I never worry about because Patrick Mahomes is the best player
on earth and he can recalibrate every single time.
No matter what the issue is, him and Andy Reed will figure it out and they will still be in the Super Bowl.
To God, so there were a couple of plays yesterday.
Correct me if my eyes are lying to me on this because you know, Addison rips that ball
out of wards hands 60 yards down the field and that Niners Vikings game and there were two
or three times yesterday with both the wide receiver and the defensive back have the
ball together at the same time.
And did you see this play with Enjoukou, where a guy intercepts the ball on an
overthrow to Enjoukou.
And all he does is that guy is trying to get up, is hit the football and
cause a fumble and then recover it.
And I didn't know what the ruling should be there.
But does it seem to you that the precision of these people is such that
that you just can't believe that these, that everyone's getting to the ball at the same time when these
things are this precise?
It's not crazy to me, that is how it works.
Like I, that's, I mean, I guess you see, you know, just in broadcast now, it's like,
it's like, it's like the concussions, too, right?
The hard hits, like you see them more now because the angles are there
and you really, you know, it's an HD and 4K
and they've always been there.
That precision has always been like that.
That's why the rules are there.
If both guys are there at the same time,
it goes to the offense.
Because so often these are both incredible athletes
who are playing the ball and had the same timing,
you know, made the best man win.
So it's not a surprise to me,
but I can see from a fans perspective.
It just seems like it's happening.
Do I have this wrong?
It just seems like it's happening more to me yesterday.
What I'm looking at,
because I don't, well, I don't expect any wide receiver
in that league to be coverable.
And period, I don't expect anybody one on one
to be able to cover the highest levels of that sport,
where a quarterback can put it, where a wide receiver,
it's wide-calsies not stoppable. Yeah, no, I'm not surprised by that.
DBs are the best athletes in the NFL. They just can't catch. That's the problem.
It's like a big catch. They wouldn't play wide receiver. Why are you smiling, Mike?
Why are you showing me a 30 seconds? Well, Dan, that's supposed to be a little
behind the scenes. Sorry, we just for you. Why would you call it a big step, though?
Because there's 30 seconds left, and that's how...
Not a spritz, switch that up.
I'm not sure how much do we pay for that.
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