The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Harbor for Harbaugh

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

HEYYYYYYY JUUUUUUUDE. The crew kicks off Hour 1 with Stugotz's Weekend Observations before watching an electric clip from El Chiringuito. After the clip, Stugotz lashes out for having to cut his Weeke...nd Obs short due to the clocks. Then, we dive into the Michigan Football news and all the details that continue to leak out about Jim Harbaugh and the program. Plus, Andrew Hawkins joins us to discuss Pickle Coverage, the awful Jets-Giants game, Patrick Mahomes' greatness, and Tyreek Hill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. In this time for Stugat's to share his game notes, no one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boys to weekend observations Clear my throat brought to you by Miller light Great taste 96 calories available for delivery Dan that cleared it
Starting point is 00:00:42 He went to LA on a mission and let me be the first to say mission complete because Dan, after an incredible, grueling, two-week stretch covering the Rams, the Chargers, the Lakers, the Kings, and UCLA for Metal Arc Media. Make no mistake about it. You are back. Yes, after the big sadano sit down, we went down to... You did that, huh? Yeah, we finally, we were hooked him in.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It's the only reason we went. He was here this weekend, sadata. He was. He sounds so good. He sounds great. So professional on those broadcasts. He was faking it at the beginning, and now he sparklers in the sky. He's so those broadcasts. He was faking it at the beginning and now he sparklers in the sky.
Starting point is 00:01:26 He's so good at it. He is. Practice makes perfect. Could have just waited a week though. That's all I'm saying. But you had to cover the teams. I had to get it before he did the UMF Virginia game. I had to get it exclusively first.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Speaking of back, Julio Jones. You already used that one. I know. It's just sitting there, I mean. He was out of the league there and then he played for the tight. It feels like yesterday I was hiding behind a pole at the Atlantis just spying on him playing cards.
Starting point is 00:01:59 It wasn't yesterday. It was old enough, long enough ago for a receiver to get old. Right. I hit something on my phone and now I can't stop getting emails from Rocco mediate Roxy Is it roxy it is are you sure it's not rocky? Are you sure are you sure some people go rocky some people go rock see I go rock see Are you sure? Some people go rocky, some people go rocky, I go rocky.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But I keep getting emails from the guy. I mean, he's not gonna fix my golf game enough, you know? Fixie Ken though. Are you guys getting a lot of political texts? I just can't get them to stop. I cannot get them to stop. Just like a lot of spam texts actually. You text back, stop.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I've done it many times. And then you block the number. And it adoubles. They find another way though. I know, there's always a new one. Kinda like Wackemoll, but, you know, it hasn't been as bad for me as the presidential election. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Nicola Jokic has a chitch. The Joker. Now we see that pass. Such a great amazing pass. Amazing, the best I've ever seen. Mike, what's the macaque? They're three at home. Mike, what are you shaking your head about?
Starting point is 00:03:10 Everyone wants to be obsessed with the Joker and Wemba Niyama. They should not be having your support throw behind them. They should be having plenty of advantages. Yeah, so you are now lamenting the big man in the NBA. They're too big, it's unfair. Just, why do they need your help? They don't need any help. Wimbledon Yamma had a video that he put himself where he has a cell phone at I-length
Starting point is 00:03:31 and I'm convinced he's not a good basketball player now. It's just so easy. Mike, I'll be right about him. It's like a Fisher Price who might be on something with that. You're not a sports fan if you're throwing your support behind Wimbledon Yamma. They must stop him. Skinny legs. He must be stopped. He's just not fair. He's not just doing tall guy stuff, Mike. That's why he's so good.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Honestly, if you guys may should stick to the tall guy stuff. I'm gonna kinda want him out there, Drew. Wow, you're talking down to the side of your mouth there. Oprah 6 from 3. Oprah 6 from 3. Oprah 6 from 3. Turnovers, fouls. How about just put two arms up. hustle back on D-Files.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, get the paint. Listen to the low early on. Just hustle back on D-2 hands up. Just to be clear, your take on women's blocks. On Wembenjama is basically just to run and dunk and dunk and block and dunk and block and dunk and block. Stay close to the hoop. Just make your string so.
Starting point is 00:04:21 My coaching pop right now. Ah, The diamond backs went with a classic called fuel bike doubters and we're keeping receipts. The old ones you punch, the D backs, Dan, you know what the C and Clemson stands for? I do not. It stands for the CW. Next week, they should play on Comedy Central. Fuel bike by Douders, Dabbo said he couldn't find it. He didn't know. Thank you. Dabbo said he couldn't find the CW anywhere. Couldn't find it. Didn't know where to find it. If he found it, he could have watched himself lose. Not a supernatural fan. Fueled by Douders we're taking receipts is actually a good name for a country music song. Anna Schwartz and Egermovie.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I didn't think of that. Yeah, just put her mind. Put 78-year-old Sylvester Salone on a movie poster and put that underneath his name. Hey, Dabo, God called. He wants his money back from the NIL deal that you made with him. If the committee leaves undefeated Air Force out of the playoffs, they should be tried for treason. Kevin Durant said the warriors should retire his jersey someday.
Starting point is 00:05:40 No one gets tried for treason in this country. The back of his retire jersey. They hate what they win the next presidential election. Should read higher gun. Trees it. Honestly, I just at this point, I'm just hoping Air Force can feel the team come bull season. Trees it. They're good because of treason. The falcons. Top five things. The warrior should put on the back of Kevin Durant's retire jersey. Oh, well, I you chose Kyrie over Curry Number five No one chooses the nets Number four, thanks for stopping by
Starting point is 00:06:17 Number three sugar Number two if you can't beat them, join them. Thanks, Mike. Number one, zero rings. Here come the magic. Dusty Baker said this is not goodbye. Just see you later. Hey, Dusty, make up your mind.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Also, this two cats is strong in you. Who does that? I do. I, okay, a moment of self-respect. Who do you think you are? I am. In the event you work at, served, everything is just fine in Athens. Georgia, do it against Alabama. Aren't you the one who was concerned. I was a couple of weekend. But everything's fine now. Yeah, because I'm pretty much the one who I just learned
Starting point is 00:07:09 in the hallway. They just told me, hey, Dan, the next and Ghanu promo is going to have you saying how he had no chance. You killed my daughters and keeping receipts. Deod Sanders, Florida Gators, Collision Course. Matt rules better. Miami Hurricanes, the rare wind that felt like a loss Miami should have had to run gassars after that win. I Looked up my doctor's new office number and now every time I log on there. He is staring at me
Starting point is 00:07:41 Every time you staring at me now It's weird log on to what the internet he just logged on to the internet that's not a thing that people do anymore remember I miss logging on it was a dialed I got to start it you know what does it mean so old I just click suffering rapidly closed tabs my doctor staring at me though I mean you don't know how to get it off you got mail oh I missed good bye messenger you you
Starting point is 00:08:21 would log out too it's not the internet used to communicate that's right that's right That's true right here in the show what if they would we would we would you would do it It's still okay. What did you guys you know? Make the day that I had to pry a well in sin messenger away from them now Like Gmail has this now. I'm Gmail, but now we don't even communicate The show was so much better than that would you guys put it like an away message on breaks? AOL messenger, Ruins show.
Starting point is 00:08:47 PRB bathroom. USC, the rare 50 burger, with a side of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Put this in the something to ponder file. With everything going on here and around the world, ask yourself this, should we be wasting any of FBI FBI's time on the Michigan football program? No need to discuss it now Absolutely
Starting point is 00:09:12 This is a ponder devote more resources in the ponder file There's nothing more important. Where's the DA? Dan you know what the C and Corey Seager stands for I do not Stand for clutch. You know what the G and Arola's Garcia stands for? Great fruits. You know what the D and Jacob DeGrom stands for? Don't get a ring in my personal record book. Oh, wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah, you were stuck on Garcia, what happened there? I was trying to make sure there was a G in there. I was trying to just make sure. I thought sometimes with your accounting, it can be a little off. Garcia. Yeah, no, I got it. But that's what you asked me what was happening. And I was telling you just make sure I thought sometimes with your accounting it can be a little off. I see it. Yeah, no I got it
Starting point is 00:09:46 I but that's what you asked me what was happening and I was telling you got it happening zero points plus 10 rebounds Plus six elbows plus countless perfectly executed screens equals Al Horford Rangers diamondbacks greatest game one in world series history Most of you will just have to take my word for it. I realize that's difficult. Taking my word for it. Dan, you know what the C and Conor Stallion stands for? Stands for Cheater.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Conor Stallions. Great quarterback name. Chicago Bulls. The earliest players only meeting an NBA history paid off. So good. After a game. Why did they just do it before the season started so good. No one has thrown more meaningful first pitches in Major League baseball history
Starting point is 00:10:34 than George W. Bush. Mr. President. Scientists caught sperm. How can I know how can we long for that time? How is that possible? Is it done of a first pitch this time? It passed, yeah. It was that good. I still got to just celebrating a time
Starting point is 00:10:52 when that buffooner let us and wasn't good enough. Mr. President. And I long for it. I still got to fill out here with Mr. President. Scientists got sperm defying one of the major laws of physics, Sir Isaac Newton, fraud, the Prince of Physics, my ass. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:11 What goes up must come down, are you sure? Jets, with a rare road win in their home building, Dan, you know what the P and Purdy stands for? I do not. Not proper protocol, though 49ers better be careful of Chris Nakinski, because he might charge them with a murder of Brock Purdy. Did you pronounce his name right? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Okay, that's the concussion doctor. Strogatz has been making fun of us for using for it. It wasn't even, it was a neurologist, the former wrestler. He did want to accuse the dolphins of murder. She's telling the Niners to be careful. He's out there. Playing Utah at Salt Lake City on a Saturday night is vastly different than playing them on Saturday afternoon. One might say the difference is night and day. The Utes. You like that. The U and Utah stands for you aren't good enough. Duke, still a basketball school, so is Carolina,
Starting point is 00:12:08 death, taxes, and that loss, Biocla Homa, Brett Venables, the Bob Stoops is strong in you. Will Levis, whoa, Dan, you know what the W and Will Levis stands for? Whoa, good guess, but no, it stands for wow. Oh. You really got me off the center. You led me in.
Starting point is 00:12:31 You baited me and you tricked me. I can't believe that. There is a devil comment that has ice volcanoes and horns that was presumably shot straight from hell and is headed right for us. Anyone looking into it? Anyone else concerned? Anybody?
Starting point is 00:12:50 I believe that's Ruben Bane. Horn? Yes, it has horns. Horn. It's a devil comet. A devil comet with horns. Shot from hell. Speaking of hell,
Starting point is 00:12:59 orp riles. Dan, those are the weekend observations. Don Lebatard. I mean, they used to call me Chris karaoke. Stugats! Oh, karaoke. That back row is bringing it today.
Starting point is 00:13:16 This is the Dan Lebatard show with the Stugats. I'm going to try Stug, to get to some of these things because I really do want to get to a funny moment that happened with my wife this weekend. Billy is burning on the World Series and I don't want Game 1 to get lost because it was a lot of fun and our coverage. A lot of people, I understand this, are complaining that our coverage as a show has been nobody cares about that world series and we inundated everyone in America with Panthers talk for many months. Well, at least one ratings was up. Okay. Well, Roy has a Panthers show now too, Dan. That's right. Thank you, Billy. That's after the game with Roy, the hot new podcast sensation supported by Billy
Starting point is 00:14:06 Gil. Hopefully Billy will be appearing on it with David Dwork as well. I'll be there. Every Panthers game I go to, I will be on that post game because he's such a big supporter of all things Roy and of everyone here after the game with Roy, if you want to find out right now, what is happening? The logo should be in times of Roman. When is that after the game? But I'm not going to be able to get to some of the things that I want to get to because Mike has put in front of me one of the most magical things that always tickles me. Okay. This is off of El Classico and is El Cheninguito, who is, for the uninitiated,
Starting point is 00:14:47 just a quintessential Spanish language, television broadcast personality, who is always funny. It's a show. It's not an individual, it's an ensemble, and it's out of Spain. It errs in this country on Fox Sports Deportes. And it's appointment television all the time after big games, but especially if there's an El Classico where the two biggest teams in Spain, Real Madrid and Barcelona clash. And no matter the result, you know it's going to be overly dramatic.
Starting point is 00:15:18 No one shoots a sports television show, the way that El Chiringuito does. It's kind of filmed like 1997 ECW, with the camera always kind of zooming in, in and out, weird thunder clashes. But it is lighting. But it is lighting. You would say it is classically Spanish television.
Starting point is 00:15:35 It is like from a different time. It's a Spanish tabloid, and it's unlike anything that there is in America, and you don't have to speak the language to enjoy it. But if you're ever gonna watch it, watch it after a really dramatic El Classico, like this year's was. Barcelona had a 1-0 lead in their really cool Rolling Stones kits because they have a spotify partnership and then the Rolling Stones were in person to look miserable as Jude Bellingham
Starting point is 00:16:00 bags a brace. 20 years old Jude Bellingham might lay claim to the best English soccer player we've ever seen at 20 years old unafraid coming from behind and winning this game almost single handedly against barcelona he's already become a massive superstar in his homeland but now he is transcended and he's becoming already a real Madrid icon at such a young age naturally because, because his name is Jude. Hey Jude is often popularly sung around him. And this happens where on Cheating Geeta,
Starting point is 00:16:32 they have Barça fans and Real Madrid fans, and one Real Madrid fan took an opportunity to take the opportunity. Ah, hey Jude, I just want to talk to you, Hey Madrid, I tu, t'has volgut pel mar, el Madrid l'Utza's per final. Tranquilo, jota Jordi és l'historia de tu vida. I la de los cules, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para, para BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAA! BAA! BAAA! BAA! BAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAA! BAA! BAA! BAA! BAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAAA! BAA It's just a wonderful taunt in the face of a Barça Jersey wearing supporter who has to take it. Belvedering Kito never disappoints.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Why is it that that is not more popular? Why? I think it's in Spanish and a hard to find. But that trans place. Yeah, I really miss Grant. There are so many moments where I miss texting with Grant Wall not to make this all super sad, but texting Grant clips of El Chieninghito always brought me so much joy. And this was a weekend that I really miss Grant because he would have loved
Starting point is 00:17:55 not just that game, not just the talents of Jude Bellingham, but that clip. Stugat is lashing out, Mike Ryan, because he wanted to complete his weekend observations, and he had to zip through them. He feels a little confined by time constraints, and he had to zip through them, and he had another page of material that on the fly, a master ad liver, he had to throw to the side, and we never got to a page of weekend observations and stugots is tired of not getting to just tired to his best off and is just generally tired because he's zipping in here on a zip line to do god bless football with a more tired
Starting point is 00:18:34 billy who then gets left with fifteen hours of editing but this page that that was neglected that hit the cutting room floor do you want to try it do you want to uh... it's not a full page is just a handful of you had a a bad top five in there that could have not it could have been better yet agree with that you would have saved time you could have done that nobody doesn't it's not he doesn't edit them beforehand he edits as he's going then turns
Starting point is 00:18:59 to me and says see what a great job I did I left the page out but then says I had some good shit in there, we never got to it. I mean, when does he ever cared about the clock with it? I appreciate it. I actually clocked discipline, but he can't cut the top five. It's a benchmark within a benchmark now. It's benchmarking. It was a bad top five to Billy's point.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I wanna hear what you didn't say. Okay, all right, so let's see, it doesn't need any accompaniment. It is so strong, it lives on its own. Did I do Will Levis? Whoa. Yes. I did. Whoa, one wow.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yes, you did. Aaron Rogers NFL coach of the year, collision course, from one to four p.m. yesterday, somehow watching the Jets win, finally made me realize how they're lost to the Patriots. We're off to a rough start. Kyle Shad ahead. I'm laughing at the next time. I mean bring up bring up the music. I need to be sad without it Hold on let's let's say that's good. That's the good stuff. That's the good rock party
Starting point is 00:20:03 Dan you know what to be and rock party stands for blah blah blah You nailed it. But you didn't mail. Whoa. You just wanted to do that. That was wow. That was it. Oh, it's too bad.
Starting point is 00:20:15 We didn't get to it. Oh, wait. Music back. They tried to write off the Andre Hopkins. He didn't write back. Oh no. It's a good one. I mean, it's a good one. I'm going to write away from him because that's a social video. He's a good one. Come on. Billy, what's wrong? I mean, I feel like we didn't miss much. No, I cut out the right ones. It was an amazing ad-living job by you. We should have all celebrated it on
Starting point is 00:20:46 the fly. Could have done it before we started, but no, it's so great that he can do and get and cut the bad stuff. I realize why it skipped overall. Master of efficiency. But in those weekend observations, Connor Stallions made an appearance and it is a great quarterbacking name. You are not incorrect, but that is not why he's in the news. This whole Michigan thing has been so fascinating because there's just been a slow trickle of news every single day
Starting point is 00:21:15 for the last two weeks about it. And the latest is that according to the Wall Street Journal, Michigan was going to offer Harba a big extension, which now they have rescinded in wake of the scandal. at least are tabling until there's some sort of resolution. And also the NFL put out a report that the NFL may not be a safe harbor for harbott. Wow, that was hard to say.
Starting point is 00:21:40 If you want to go safe haven for harbock was you know what I'm with you though I'm with save harbor or save save haven this is a tongue twister tongue twister if you want to coach in the NFL though they might not let him do that how does that work discipline they claim there's precedent because of Jim Trustle being discipline when he left college because of NCAA infractions which is very weird Trust Trust was brought on as like a replay consultant by the Colton had to serve, I believe, a five game six mentions.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Six games, I think. I think it was six games, but it's so weird because there's also two investigates. Like Stugat's referenced the FBI investigation. That's apparently not even related to sign stealing. That is because of their former co-offensive coordinator who was fired in January for computer crimes uh... that is what the fbi's investigating and allegedly that has
Starting point is 00:22:30 nothing to do with the sign stealing stuff so i don't know what like there has not been too much reporting about what that entails and what this guy was actually doing that was he was apparently using his computer from shem beckler hall uh... in unauthorized ways. And now that is the investigation that the FBI is looking at.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Couple fascinating details from this story is it keeps changing. The standing offer that would have made Jim Horboh the highest paid coach and the big 10 has been pulled by the school. There was a, a, a detail that came out in the reporting last week that Michigan was sharing information on opposing teams to help themselves get into the college football playoff. Games that didn't actually feature Michigan in them, they were reaching out to staffs that could have assisted their cause. And also the detail that TCU was aware of the sign stealing.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Remember the incredible start that TCU got off in that college football playoff and they had dummy calls that apparently worked against Michigan. And what I would say is it pertains to Harbaugh and the NFL. The NFL may end up punishing Jim Harbaugh for doing this in the NFL because I shared with you that detail last week that I knew someone on a Western Illinois staff that caught someone from Jack Harbaugh's staff videoing opposing sidelines. I forgot to mention that Jim Harbaugh was also on that Western Kentucky staff at the time.
Starting point is 00:23:52 This would apparently go back aways. Beyond that, do you not find it weird that the NFL would protect its free minor league by not offering him that's a logic. That's the logic. You protect your free minor league, your feeder system by imposing rules so they don't just get to jump because the institution will no doubt get punished but the lead offender.
Starting point is 00:24:18 The idea that Harball would be a fugitive who could, to my way of thinking, to go to run into the safe haven of the NFL, where no morality. Safe harbor is a- Even for harbors. Harbour, harbour. Harbour for harbour.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Harbour for harbour, haven. That was the headline. It said safe harbor. I didn't make that up. That wasn't mine. That's fascinating. That's fascinating to me. The Tressel thing was over some tattoos
Starting point is 00:24:46 and I thought that was overstepping. This is wild. The idea that you would cost yourself this kind of money and this kind of opportunity because the NFL locks you out. They don't blackball coaches. They don't do that. I mean, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:24:59 You think the NFL cared? They'd like to have Jim Horbyser coach. Or you think they care? Like, did you think it's gonna move the needle for the NFL? No, getting to a leap at the date of another tight end would do more. It's fascinating to see them protect
Starting point is 00:25:11 their minor league free labor system that is crowdfunded. Don Lebatard. Let's go Islanders, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, two guts. Let's go Islanders, boom, boom, bump, bump, bump, bump. This is the Don Lebatar Show with this two guts.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't have any idea why it is that Andrew Hawkins came in here and immediately placed an NFL football at the forefront of everything that we're doing. The whole Monday, what do you mean? Is it because you grab footballs? Whatever room you're in, you're going to grab the football and you're going to put it in a prominent place. Just let everybody know what's happening. I said the tone earlier.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I'm paying. It's like you would not chose. OK. I mean, it's a little unusual, but we are here. We have not talked that much football today. We haven't done it enough. That's what Monday is a four. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Just wanted to make sure you guys as minds were right. Well, I want to talk to you about something specifically because this was funny. My wife doesn't have any interest in football. She's basically horrified whenever she walks past the television during a goal line stand. I understand that the rest of us have gotten used to it and perhaps numb to it.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But what's happening out there is a little bit crazy. So much so. that in the 90 seconds that she was around the television yesterday, on the red zone channel, which is meant to keep me away from some of these things. She got the following, right? She got Scott Hanson saying, there is bad injury news out of New York.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And so she walked by one time and she says, of course there is. Then, right after that, Kenny Pickett is down and shaken up and she just shouts from the other room, Carnage. And then she asks, how many times, 90 seconds listening, how many times are they gonna mention concussions because they went and did it like three times in those 90 seconds and she also wanted to know
Starting point is 00:27:04 why wink Martin Dale was in pickle coverage. And she also wanted to know why wink Martin Dale was in pickle coverage. But she heard that part from. That was okay. Yeah, that was different. She wanted to know, there was the only thing that intrigued her. What's pickle coverage?
Starting point is 00:27:14 That sounds interesting. It's a brand of speedo. But it is the game show host. You feel me back there. There it is. It's good. Oh, no, you didn't get the, you didn't get the team next lap but you got the off microphone
Starting point is 00:27:27 for its Cody laugh. That Jets Giants games. To God is happy today to be foreign. Brian Dayball, not since Mario Cristobal has a coach made a decision where you're like, oh, you just lost the game, a truly terrible game that saves the jet season. I mean, in fairness, he had no idea Zach Wilson was gonna do that, marched down the field the way he did. I mean, in fairness, Zach Wilson.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Zach Wilson managed the clock perfectly. Yes, it did. He did. He got it down to a second, what, Billy? They may have gotten the rare home field clock cooking even though they were technically on the road. And the referee, the official, I've never seen it, like they usually have to go grab the ball
Starting point is 00:28:12 in spot, it just like ran by, touched it, and kept running just so that they had time to spike it. Did you see that? Yeah, I mean, we're taught in practice, and never leave it to the rest because it is a crapshoot of what they'll do. Some will take their time, some will say, hey, we know what you're trying to do. Let me give you a hand here. So you're talking two minutes real receiver, catch the ball, and then run as fast as you can just to hand it to the ref.
Starting point is 00:28:34 They tell you actually not to set it because the ref will take it, find his spot, walk to a different place, and then you'll be at liberty of the of the referee. But this one knew what was going on. He gave it to the center and the ref just went and touched it like freeze. I got out of the way. He gave him the opportunity to do what they did. It's the one ref that wouldn't have been like, yeah. Yeah, no, he was involved in this, which is crazy. Yeah, to the ball, right. That's what you want.
Starting point is 00:28:58 That's what you want from the referees. Yeah. That's what you want. That's that's actually like not affecting the game. Like if he did it the other way That is although we see it so routinely that is affecting the outcome We want you just to get out of the way and let us play also giants land him a little bit longer They never call that just literally one second longer
Starting point is 00:29:18 I'll talk to one that game. Well, no, here's the other thing. Lazar would have kept running had no one tackled him Like he would have kept running and then someone would tackle him at the 10. Game would have been over. Yeah, you know, it's crazy that I come and I, I, I set the tone. I put in the NFL football up here and I'm like, let's talk some ball and you guys start off with giants, Jets. Maybe the worst football game. It was a game of the weekend. Yeah, it was. Does anyone have any stats from that game? I want to be there like 25 punts. There were 15 just in the first round. There were more punts than points.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I saw Zach Wilson's first third down conversion. It was a run. He was like, oh for 12 like prior today. It was the team combined at one point for over 17. And I felt like I was in the second quarter. It was horrible. It was rainy. It was the Giants had a 99.9 win probability with a minute 20 left.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Tell me about the decision of day Alde kick the field goal there. He had fourth and one and he decided to kick a field goal. He could have ended the game with a one yard run. Yeah, he wasn't feeling good about it. I don't know. I mean, we always talk about it when the coach makes a decision. If it goes right, you're a genius. When it goes wrong, it's the dumbest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But what about the process, though? Like, yeah, okay, we can criticize any result. But what about the process? If I tell you as an offensive player, you're up three. You're both offensive. Shit, all game. You don't trust them. You can go up six in the rain, kick a field, go.
Starting point is 00:30:38 A lot of things can go wrong there. Or you can get one yard against a tired Jets defense with Davido as your quarterback. Yeah, but the Jets defense against a tire jets defense with Davido as your quarterback. Yeah, but the jets defense is a stout defense. And you're, which you're scared of is that they're going to flash as this defense that we know they can be on this play because they've gotten emotionally up for it.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And then to your point, you're trusting Zach Wilson to go down there and score. And it's like, I understand him taking his chances there. The New York Giants had negative nine net passing yards against the jets, the newest in NFL history. Mm-hmm. Record breaking.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It was actually like the same outcome though, right? Because if they don't get it, you get the ball in the exact same place with the same score. Here, you're telling them you need a touchdown to win. If you make it, which you assume, you're going to make it. And you take more time off the clock. So it wasn't like a crazy desire. You just anticipate Graham Gano's going to make the field. No, but here's the problem, Billy, with the call and why you you should have ran the ball there. The only thing you were able to do yesterday
Starting point is 00:31:31 against the Jess defense was run the ball. Yeah, like Barclay had a good game. They had 203 yards on the ground. They needed one more yard. Did he have a good game? He carried the ball like 40 times and 128 yards to get that defense. And a lot of their passing yards were also essentially run play. They just throwing it did Barkley four yards away. Really airing it out there. But also in the second half the jets knew they weren't passing the ball. So they were expecting Barkley and Barkley still got yards. That's not how to play football in 2023.
Starting point is 00:32:01 When you win, you know, I mean, none of that is how to play football. Come on. Four and three. The thing that I thought was saddest about the Giants game was after Tommy DeVito went in. And I forget who the sideline reporter was for that game. She was saying that his backup is Saquon Barkley in the Wildcat. If he gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And I was like, I already knew that. That's sad. I know the Giants forstring is Saquon. I shouldn't know that. It shouldn't happen that often. Barkley averaged 3.6 yards yesterday. OK. Hawk, can you explain to me please?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Is it simply that Patrick Mahomes was sick and we don't understand how sick he must have been to play like that against the defense that gave up 70 points? I think it was. It's a couple of things. What the chiefs are trying to figure out, is they need a legitimate player at why I'd receive it.
Starting point is 00:32:48 That Patrick Mahomes feels good about and can depend on. And it hasn't shown to be the case for him. And until that happens, I think it will continue to look the way it does because you understand, okay, I'm gonna take away Travis Swift. Once you take away Travis Swift out of the game, they don't have a lot of options outside of that, right? And not only, I mean, sometimes receivers will flash
Starting point is 00:33:12 for the chiefs, but it has not been consistent enough to patch my home to sit back there and say, okay, if this isn't there, I'm going here. I can't even imagine through your eyes what Tyree Kill looks like, through your eyes versus us, to, because it's a different angle or what you're trying to say. No, because what has happened in Kansas City
Starting point is 00:33:29 and I mean, Am I your target to the former quickest person on the planet? Yeah, yeah, no. I mean, you know, I mean, Tyree Kill was my favorite while I receiver absolutely. He's saying you can relate to him. Yeah, no, of course, absolutely. And it's what, as a kid at the house,
Starting point is 00:33:43 knowing that I wasn't going to get above 5-8. I don't mean just relate though, I mean you must be fascinated to see a receiver take the balance of offense with him from one team to the other. At that side. At that side. I mean, that's one of the Super Bowl, man. Oh, got him.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, no, I mean, that's what I was going to get to. I don't think that it was straight up, I'm taking this offense and we're going to Miami with it. I think there's a lot of factors there and I think Patrick Mahomes is the best football player on Earth, and yes, Tyree Keele is the most electric football player on Earth, but Patrick Mahomes has more than enough ability to make up for what he's lost in Tyree Keele.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Same player. He did it. No, you can't, but he has done it. And I think the problem is, the more you go, it happened with Bella Check and Tom Brady as well, right? Like you put these weapons around and then somebody shows it'd be really good, especially at the quarterback position.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And just slowly, it's not malicious on purpose. You said, okay, well let's see what you can do without this because we'll now put more resources in these places or the talent just dwindles and dwindles and dwindles and I'm not saying that she's don't have talent, but they have a mindset that everybody is expendable because we have 50 back there. But he was sick yesterday, correct?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Like that nine points happens because he's sick, correct? It was a couple of things, man. It was drops, it was fumbles, it was the fourth and two sky more gets a ball. He couldn't, went out there and handed it to him any better and he's not making the plays and that hurts momentum and then the defense gets involved. Nick Bolton was out. So there's so many factors to it. to him any better and he's not making the plays and that hurts momentum and then the defense gets involved.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Nick Bolton was out. So there's so many factors to it. I can't say that I worry about it at all. Like literally, I know there's a lot of teams that have tough losses this year that we thought were good and that those losses shouldn't have happened. The chiefs of the one team I never worry about because Patrick Mahomes is the best player on earth and he can recalibrate every single time. No matter what the issue is, him and Andy Reed will figure it out and they will still be in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:35:28 To God, so there were a couple of plays yesterday. Correct me if my eyes are lying to me on this because you know, Addison rips that ball out of wards hands 60 yards down the field and that Niners Vikings game and there were two or three times yesterday with both the wide receiver and the defensive back have the ball together at the same time. And did you see this play with Enjoukou, where a guy intercepts the ball on an overthrow to Enjoukou. And all he does is that guy is trying to get up, is hit the football and
Starting point is 00:35:56 cause a fumble and then recover it. And I didn't know what the ruling should be there. But does it seem to you that the precision of these people is such that that you just can't believe that these, that everyone's getting to the ball at the same time when these things are this precise? It's not crazy to me, that is how it works. Like I, that's, I mean, I guess you see, you know, just in broadcast now, it's like, it's like, it's like the concussions, too, right?
Starting point is 00:36:21 The hard hits, like you see them more now because the angles are there and you really, you know, it's an HD and 4K and they've always been there. That precision has always been like that. That's why the rules are there. If both guys are there at the same time, it goes to the offense. Because so often these are both incredible athletes
Starting point is 00:36:38 who are playing the ball and had the same timing, you know, made the best man win. So it's not a surprise to me, but I can see from a fans perspective. It just seems like it's happening. Do I have this wrong? It just seems like it's happening more to me yesterday. What I'm looking at,
Starting point is 00:36:51 because I don't, well, I don't expect any wide receiver in that league to be coverable. And period, I don't expect anybody one on one to be able to cover the highest levels of that sport, where a quarterback can put it, where a wide receiver, it's wide-calsies not stoppable. Yeah, no, I'm not surprised by that. DBs are the best athletes in the NFL. They just can't catch. That's the problem. It's like a big catch. They wouldn't play wide receiver. Why are you smiling, Mike?
Starting point is 00:37:18 Why are you showing me a 30 seconds? Well, Dan, that's supposed to be a little behind the scenes. Sorry, we just for you. Why would you call it a big step, though? Because there's 30 seconds left, and that's how... Not a spritz, switch that up. I'm not sure how much do we pay for that. We'll split the page, not pros. Not pros. Hold on, get to 5. 5. 5. 5.
Starting point is 00:37:41 It's 5, boy. It's always been your fingers. What second? 2. We'll be back. One one five five always been your fingers. What second? We'll be back

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