The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Killy Gil

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

Esteemed Meadowlark Intern Mike Schur is here to discuss the Shohei Ohtani contract, the Braves payroll, Juan Soto, and Billy Kill. Then, Lucy has faced her first adversity as a member of the DLS Show..., but we try to save her with Royalty Free Music. Plus, we play a quick game of "How Old Are They?," and Greg discusses the Dolphins history of sizzling in December. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Today's episode of the Dan Levitard Show with Stugots is brought to you by Peloton, a party on a bike, a roller, a treadmill, or app, or walk, or weight room or anywhere. Peloton. This is the Dan Levitard Show with this Tougat's Podcast. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Always excited to see this man's pale and radiant face with that wonderful hair and all of his statistics and knowledge.
Starting point is 00:00:39 He makes everything around him better. Mike sure returns as our star intern in order to give us a stat of the day. Before we get to that stat of the day, though, you must have. And I don't know whether you had an emergency pause cast or not on this. You and Joe Posnansky do one of the best baseball podcasts anywhere in this or any other country. But did Otani's contract, industry shaking contract, a contract that you as a union man must find fascinating on deferred payments for labor, did Otani's contract merit and emergency poscast?
Starting point is 00:01:16 It did. We're recording it literally when I'm done here today. So it'll be up in the next day or so. Yeah, it's interesting from a union point of view, but it's more interesting from a team point of view because I was actually shocked that the league allowed this. I don't think the union cares as much
Starting point is 00:01:36 as long as the guy gets paid, and in fact deferring payment means more guys can make more money, so I think it's probably fine from a union standpoint. I'm surprised a little bit that the league allows this amount of deferral $680 million to fird is pretty insane. I mean that you know for competitive Balance tax purposes. It's still like 46 million a year or whatever. So you know, that's that's something It doesn't they're not totally cheating the rest of the league out of the money that they're giving him.
Starting point is 00:02:09 It's just, it's pretty clearly gaming the system with a unicorn. Like the guy, he took the money deferred because he makes so much money in endorsements. He doesn't care about a salary. And so it's not like this is gonna happen all the time, especially in baseball, where no one has endorsement money, but it still is a little shocking that the legal allows us to happen.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I don't know what it means long term. It might not mean anything because he's such a special case. I can see the story really moved you. I have to, I have to, the emergency pause cast. You can't do it two or three days later, Mike. You just can't do it. An emergency podcast has to be done the second the news breaks, that's it. How many you've never listened to my podcast
Starting point is 00:02:50 without telling me that you've never listened to my podcast, I guess. But Mike, and I'm getting to it. An emergency appendectomy's not done four days later. The person's dead. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, yeah, again, like that's the whole point of the podcast is that we're incredibly lazy and we don't really get to things and most of the
Starting point is 00:03:07 Emergency Puzzcast we do we don't actually get to the subject of the emergency for like 45 minutes Speaking of dead and I don't want this to take a morbid turn, but what happens if something happens to show Hayotani? You don't want it to take a morbid why why why billy someone asked me out in the other room and i didn't know the answer so i'm asking you you're the baseball guy you're the human guy legit what that's in short not an insured contract it's guaranteed money it's an insured contract is for one year though it's not right
Starting point is 00:03:40 uh... it's insured his family whatever it is that he is old it like i'm assuming mic perhaps you have intramation here. I was like, no one knows the answer. No, that's a great question. Maybe I'll just say it's a bad question. Well, because it'd be not a great question. What? Don't just say it's a great question.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It's not a great question. Hypothetically, show Hey Ho time he dies in two years. I didn't say that. Oh my God. What are we doing? What happens to the conscious? What are we doing? I mean, the guy just signed like a,
Starting point is 00:04:04 what a 75 year deal, I'm worried if America will be around, I think this is an important question. A great question. This is okay. I'm not sure this is gonna get in the uniform. What happens? I don't think you know the answer.
Starting point is 00:04:16 What happens if something trashes? I don't think I do either, but if I did I wouldn't answer that. That's what's happening. Maybe Samson will know. I'm gonna text Samson. I know what the answer is not. The answer is not what Greg Cody said it was,
Starting point is 00:04:31 which is maybe Mrs. O'Connie has to wear the uniform. Right. That's not what's the case. That way it's not free money. You know, you get to earn. Right. You know, the O'Connie's, if not show high, then the surviving O'Connie's have to pick up the slack, Jack.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah, I think he's right. I think that's, I think that's legally correct. Thank you, my name is surviving Otani's. Yes. Shohei is what's to got stuck. I do. Where are you, Mike Sherr, in general, when you look at what's happening with the Dodgers on just the incredible imbalance of we need to buy a TV star, and we can pay whatever
Starting point is 00:05:16 we want because we have more regional television contract than anyone else in the sport. The Yankees did this for years, it did not mean they always won, but the Dodgers stole Freddie Freeman when they didn't need Freddie Freeman and they stolen from the dot they stolen from the braves and the braves are better still than the Dodgers are. Yeah, of all the stats, the one that is the most remarkable to me is that in 2025, the Dodgers will pay Shohei essentially 70 million. The Braves will spend less than that on Matt Olson, Austin Riley, Spencer Strider,
Starting point is 00:05:53 and Ronald Akunye Jr. Like the Braves have been so smart about the way, like unfairly smart in the way they've locked these guys up. So, you know, everybody's talking about how the Dodgers are a super team, the Braves are a super team. The Braves are a super team. The Braves are smarter about the roster construction than anybody else. The Dodgers have more money,
Starting point is 00:06:11 but the Braves, I think you can argue, are still a better team. The crazy thing about the Dodgers, to me, is that their problem has been pitching. They have run out of pitchers at the end of both of the last two seasons because of terrible injury. Look, Walker, Bueller, and Dustin May and Tony Gonsolin and all these guys went down with
Starting point is 00:06:30 season-engine injuries. They've been on multiple Tommy Johns. Then they also had deeply unpleasant people on the roster like Trevor Bauer and Julio Aureus who couldn't pitch either. And they were starting, they won a hundred and something games last year. They were starting rookies in the playoffs because they had no pitching left and Shohei, who is without question, the best baseball player who has ever played baseball can't pitch next year.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So, you know, they're paying $70 million next year for a DH. He's the best DH. He's the best arguably the best hitter in the game. But long term, this is enormously risky for their pitching staff because nobody knows what he's going to be like after he comes back for a second, Tommy John, and they still have pitching problems because they don't know how these other guys are going to be either. So, you know, look, when he's healthy, he's the most valuable player in the game by a factor
Starting point is 00:07:20 of essentially two, and they paid him like that. They paid him like Aaron Judge plus Garrett Cole. That's basically his contract is basically Aaron Judge plus Garrett Cole. And that's what he is when he's healthy in one guy, but they don't know if he's going to pitch to the degree to the level that he's pitched in the past. And that's a big question mark. Look, when you have, when you have Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman and Shohei Otoni is the one, two, three in your lineup. That's incredible. That's three MVPs at three different positions that are three of the eight best hitters in baseball,
Starting point is 00:07:55 maybe or seven best hitters in baseball. So I get it. And I think it was worth it. And the money that they're paying him, they'll make back, they'll make back 10 fold on marketing and everything else. But it's weirdly doesn't fix all of their problems, at least not right away because their main problem in the last couple of years has been pitching. Mike, wouldn't you argue, you know, the Dodgers are being positioned as this sort of nefarious team for pushing all of this money back for years? But couldn't you argue that what the braves have done is sort of the more nefarious version of it by taking advantage of young guys who need the big contract
Starting point is 00:08:30 quote unquote and signing them for, I mean, what Ozzy Albees is making is is criminal compared to the type of player he is. They they all those braves players should see their agents is absurd that they got those contracts locked into the degree they did. Akunya especially. Akunya makes like 12 million next year. And then I think like 17 after that. And he's a $40 million player. So yeah, I have not understood why those guys took those deals. I mean, I get it. It's like, it's obviously life-changing generational money.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But man, oh man, are those guys worth more than they're being paid? And they're all locked in for, I mean, 10 years. Every one of them, Albi's deal runs out, I think, after next year, but it's absurd. And so, you know, look, it's not illegal. It's just outrageous that their agents took those deals to me. Give me all your thoughts on Juan Soto,
Starting point is 00:09:26 who turned down a contract, the equivalent of Patrick Maholms. Well, I think it makes a lot of sense to turn that down because he knew that Shohei would hit free agency before he did. And obviously he doesn't pitch, but he is essentially Ted Williams. If you look at like guys at his age, he's 25 years old.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And the number of guys at his age who have done what he's done offensively, OPS plus and walk rate and all the stuff that really matters, it's like he's top four all time. It's like him and Ted Williams and, you know, I don't know, Babe Ruth and whoever. And so I think it made sense for him because he knew that there was gonna be a guy who set a precedent that he could then use to get his deal.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So he's gonna play out this year and I don't think he's gonna, yeah, I think he's gonna join the braves. I think he's gonna, you know, make 50 to 100 million more than he would have if he had taken that deal because of Shohei's contract. So I hate that he's on the Yankees. That's bad for me and for everybody who likes justice and goodness and happiness in the
Starting point is 00:10:39 world. But I don't blame him at all for turning that deal down because he knew that it was only gonna help him long term. The thing about the Juan Soto deal two Mike, that people fall in love with the 450 that he turned down, but it was over 50 years. It was like 440 over 15, so it was less than 30 a year. So he could make it back with a shorter deal. Yeah, he'll get that for 10 years after next, assuming that he does what he does and he
Starting point is 00:11:07 doesn't get hurt. He'll probably get 450 over 10 at this point because show he's essentially making 46 a year competitive balance tax, which is sort of what people, that was in the ballpark of what people thought he was going to get total that fit 45 to 50 a year. And so tell me why Wandsoto shouldn't get that. He's three years younger than Otani. He's one of the greatest hitters who's ever played the game to this point in his career.
Starting point is 00:11:34 If he keeps us up, he's going to the Hall of Fame. He's so young. I mean, you're talking about, you know, show he'll be 28 when this contract ends. And if Soto signs a 10 year deal, be thirty five like he's in this is his perhaps a loop prime so yeah he'll make four fifty but he'll do it in two thirds of the time that that deal that original deal offer was uh...
Starting point is 00:11:55 gonna last star of the day star of the day and he's a star of the day star of the day star of the day and he's a star of the day star of the day star of the day. Star of the day. Star of the day. And if you're star of the day. Star of the day. Star of the day.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Star of the day. And if you're turning on original sounds. I can hear the music. You get it. Lots of great show hastats out there. Jason Stark had a good one, which was that he's going to make as much money as 130 guys in the AL Central put together. That's a good one which was that he's going to make as much money as 130 guys in the AL Central put together. That's a good one. The money he makes is roughly the profit made by the national airline of Portugal in the year 2022. I like that one
Starting point is 00:12:55 too. But here's my favorite according to worldometer. Here are nations listed by annual gross domestic product. 176 the island nation of Kieribati, $223 million per year. 177 is Shohei Otoni, $70 million per year. 178 is the nation of Tuvalu, at $60.3 million per year. So we officially have a guy in baseball who is out grossing an entire nation. Mike, the David Samson get back to you on what happens if Billy kills Shohei O'Conning? Well, it's not.
Starting point is 00:13:35 That's murder, not. That's murder, not. By the way, I said that the day is brought to you by Venmo. Yes, David Samson and I kind of, a little heartbreaking sending this text, a little editorial by me. He has experience in this, given what happened to Jose Fernandez. But if something tragic were to happen to show Aotani, his estate gets paid
Starting point is 00:13:52 but the team collects life insurance. When you said Mike, David Samsung, give back to you. I thought you were talking to me and I wanted to tell you again that I blocked his number when he texted me that one time. Billy Kill. Thank you, Mike. Don Lebertard. number when he texted me that one time. Billy Kill. Thank you, Mike. No. Don Lebertard. Were you guys building out the A-Rod bathroom of your imaginations?
Starting point is 00:14:11 Is that what I heard you discussing during the break? Towels with an A on them. You know the thing you slide the toilet paper on, that's a baseball bat. Hey, like that. Still gots. You think he actually calls it the throne? Probably does.
Starting point is 00:14:27 It's an actual throne. An actual throne. There's got to be a full length mirror in there somewhere. I imagine somewhere in his house he has a replica of David, but with his head on it. Ha ha ha ha ha. This is the Don Limita show with this stugatz. Stugatz in the history of our show, I don't know whether it's
Starting point is 00:14:47 Ju-ju-gadi who's at the top of this list or whether it's Lucy, but in the history of this show, rarely has someone arrived here and immediately made a huge impact that shows everyone that they are a star. Right off of the bat, a star. But Lucy is now facing her first adversity she just came into the studio now and she was like fanding at her face saying I'm overwhelmed there are way too many people out there second adversity and remember she left that Colorado game early we can also do third the coffee incident as well this one I, is the hardest you've endured so far.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You've survived those and climbed more and more start. You didn't get to 24th on the international rankings of college football analysts by not overcoming those two previous mistakes. I don't know if you can overcome this one though. So she comes in here and she's overwhelmed because there are way too many people out there. It's the holidays and there are a lot of corporate types, milling about. A lot of people, there's a lot of money milling about out there and Lucy keeps scampering back in here to do show, but she doesn't
Starting point is 00:15:57 feel totally confident here because she's not feeling great about the content that has emerged from her latest very expensive metal-ark trip where she expenses a great many things traveling all over the earth. So where are you with this Lucy? The video we're about to show Lucy. First let me say I saved a ton of money. I didn't buy a single hat this trip. Not one. Actually that's not true. Take that back. I bought one before the trip and I'm gonna expense it but I didn't buy one there. We can expense hats. Yes, I have expense so many hats.
Starting point is 00:16:28 What? All my hats, I've expense. They're just gonna want. They all make it to the video. Yeah, the fit checks. Part of the gag. The fit check is like the most brilliant plan ever because I can just buy clothes and cool hats.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So if I like, that's great. If I show my shoe, does that mean I get to, all right, I'm gonna show the shoe. I'll put that in the next thing. Yeah, nice shoe. Paid for a little scam. Now, only if you show my shoe, I'm going to show the shoe art tonight. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, nice shoe art. Kade for a scam. Now, only if you show your shoe the next time a hockey player gets inducted into the
Starting point is 00:16:50 loveliness. Foot, foot, foot. Lucy, how do you feel about what you made? Because we're about to throw it to video here and you don't seem confident today. And I've seen you and you've seemed confident almost the entire time here. Thank you. Yeah, not today. Not our best video, not our fault.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I will say that I came in a little nervous for Army Navy, just because it's very different than the normal like college football games we go to. And you would have thought I smelled or something, because no one wanted to talk to me. No one wanted to be near me. And I wore perfume that day, so I know I didn't smell. There was just like, there were tailgates there.
Starting point is 00:17:26 There were just not tailgates that we were wanted at. And so we didn't really get any interviews because no one really wanted to talk to us. So we did the best we could. And I ended up having a shoot of fake gun and I didn't really wanna do that. And it was just this whole deal and I thought Foxford was embossing.
Starting point is 00:17:41 It wasn't embossing. It wasn't embossing. There was really a lot going on. And I didn't even buy anything there either. So I didn't feel good about that either. What an amazing discovery has had to have happened over the last 20 years, to God's of the Patriots dominating football
Starting point is 00:18:02 that Lucy realized that on that one lonely stretch of road that takes you to Foxboro it's awful it's gonna take you hours and it's nowhere near Boston that's why their fans are so angry they have to drive so far yeah all the woods it's terrible play stinks but they do sell it as you're in Boston and you're not it's the furthest thing from Boston it's like thinking you're going to New York City
Starting point is 00:18:26 and you're in the Bronx. It's something like that. Oh no, it's not like that. It's, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's like thinking you're going to New York City and you're in a marshland swamp in the ocean. This place, so you're in Jersey, this place is obscure and off, off in the shadows
Starting point is 00:18:44 and it's one way in, one way out. This place is so lonely, awful, cold, and how long did it take you to get there? So it took, I didn't look anything up ahead of time. That's my own fault. I did talk to Jess about it, and I told her like my plan to walk around Boston, and she didn't really say anything to me about how far Foxboro was. So, okay, low upset with her, but that's all right. We'll get through it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I drove like probably an hour from the airport to Foxboro. I had to drop Rose off because she had something she had to do and then I drove the hour back from Foxboro to Boston. In traffic. Yeah, because I was like, well, I'm here. I told everyone I was going. I'm not just going to sit in Foxboro and have a bad time. So then I went all the way back to Boston, but I had to leave kind of early everyone I was going, I'm not just gonna sit in Foxboro and have a bad time. So then I went all the way back to Boston,
Starting point is 00:19:25 but I had to leave kind of early because I was like, well, it's gonna take me like an hour or so to get back. Now I was on my way back and I thought, well, I've never been to Rhode Island before. I might as well just go to Rhode Island while I'm close. So I went to Providence just so I could say
Starting point is 00:19:36 I've been to Providence because what if I decided to go see every 50 state? Like one day, now I've already seen Rhode Island, check that box. Then I went back to Foxboro. It was a very long day, and I didn't even buy myself anything. Let's play that video. Hi Dan, we are at Army Navy in Foxboro, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:20:18 That's not Boston. I thought it was Boston. It's been this whole idea, but whatever. It's basically what we are here. You know what? I'm feeling patriotic is hell Although nobody really wants to talk to us here, and I don't blame them. They look so nice and I'm dressed like I Have got to shoot my first gun No, I'm not
Starting point is 00:20:59 I'm sorry. Hate it that. I'm like pointing it right at people I hate that. You'd think after living in Florida for several months now, I'd be a little more comfortable around guns. I'm always getting better on my field, please don't hit one then. I'm having fun, but it is our American right,
Starting point is 00:21:23 not to want to talk to the Levittar show. I get it. I get it. USA number one Do you watch the Dan Levittar show with two guts? You watch the Dan Levittar show with Stugots? Do you watch the Dan Levittar show with Stugots? Yes. O dia é mais araba, mas eu tu O dia é mais araba, mas eu tu We are Penn State. I'm going to go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go!
Starting point is 00:22:51 Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go!
Starting point is 00:23:00 Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! I could never be in the military because my hair looks really bad pulled back. Also physically and emotionally and mentally I'm quite weak, so that could be a problem too. I don't really like getting up early, so I could also, that might also be a issue. Well Dan, they've got John Cougar melonMellon camp on. That is the end of Army Navy.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It was awesome. It was like all the pageantry of college football to the like instigree. It ruled I cried so hard. It was so patriotic. Still somehow not as patriotic as Clemson was, but a very close second. Even though nobody wanted to talk to us us we had a great time here. You asser, you asser, you asser! Hidden down south to the land of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:24:13 They don't have the road. I think I know the word so lasty. Dan we haven't left the field yet because the vibes are so high and the music is so good. Put it on the pole please. Juju at Levitard show, are you surprised that the Army Navy game was not as patriotic as Clemson? I want to apologize to the podcast audience for all of that royalty-free music. The video was much better, though not that much better,
Starting point is 00:24:39 because Army Navy... There was a stretch play in there then, promising. I salute you, Lucy, for trying to do that and thank you for your service. Yes. It's more than just a game, Dan. You know that. Yeah, it's also boring content. Probably on the top of Probably on the off-roading chop and block next year. Army Navy. It is not Lucy's fault. I blame our military that is even I would blame Our military if that was Chris here comes out. I mean not to military. I know I know that if war comes around I trust him because they didn't want to talk to us and that shows good judgment
Starting point is 00:25:16 No, Tony also trust them football is super cool in slow motion, huh? It does. Oh, it looks great the video the video in slow motion looks great. The video, the video in slow motion looks great, but if you're looking for flimsy content that is all packaging and solace. Yeah, but another quite connect. Lucy, you're the military or Rose, who are we taking out right now? Nothing quite connects, like a full-backed dive in slow motion to royalty free podcast music. back diving slow motion to royalty free podcast music. Don Lebertard. I did not propose in a hot air balloon, but I did go on a hot air balloon trip
Starting point is 00:25:51 a ride in San Francisco, Northern California, on my honeymoon we got stuck in a tree. And I haven't been back since, I mean, to the entire area, by the way. Stulgats. You just avoided the entire. Not just the tree, not just hot air balloons. You've avoided the entire West Coast.
Starting point is 00:26:08 This is the Daler Batar Show with the Stugats. Stugats, I would like to show you jumping off of that segment, which was largely video and probably unsatisfying to our audio community, which is our largest community, and it's a giant in the space. And we actively alienate by just watching videos that don't have the right sound on audio. I wish to get to a couple of pictures here that I will allow the podcast audience to look this up themselves so they could produce their own television show without our help if they're not watching on YouTube. The first thing I want to do is I want to show you
Starting point is 00:26:47 a YouTube.com slash at Lebitard show. Make sure to subscribe, get alerts on one we're doing stuff, we're gonna be doing a lot of YouTube exclusive stuff in the future. So it's a nice little way to supplement your fandom. I want everyone who's listening to this before I put the photo up to just Google, if you're just listening to this, Jim Leeland baseball card 42 years old. So I can show the audience right
Starting point is 00:27:09 now what Jim Leeland looked like when he was allegedly 42 years old. So this is younger than Roy. I know this is this is a young Jim Leeland Stevens doing his Stephen A's list in top five teams in the NFL big news at number five the dolphins Still got some doing a different show now if you could just Just do got on there. Listen big. It is big Get them in the top five. We don't need to continue our gift on Stephen A's content Tom Brady is presently 46 years old that picture right up There is of Jim Leal in at 42 take it in I have another one for you and I want you to guess the age here of one Sparky Anderson As I put another one up here for you former Detroit Tigers manager. How old do you think Sparky Anderson is there, Sturgat? 79. Greg Cody, do you have any guesses here?
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yes, I do. He's 67. 67. In that photo, Sparky Anderson is 48 years old. What? You're a liar. You're a liar. Get out of here. How about this photo, Sparky Anderson? How old do you think Sparky Anderson is in this particular photo? With a pipe. 27. This is Sparky Anderson with a pipe. This is Sparky Anderson at 50. So this is Stugatz's age right here. Oh boy. This is who looked I feel pretty good about myself.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Just to be clear, we're following up watching a video with Guess what we're looking at on the podcast. I already established that. Same age as Halle Berry. I'm now going to show you guys a photo of- You're the currently the same age? Of me at 54, this is a photo of me at 54 here. When the pandemic got craziest, you should feel pretty good, Dan. In comparison, make me- Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I appreciate that. the good dan in comparison thank you i appreciate that this is please send us as many of these as you can be i don't think anyone can top sparkly anderson and liland
Starting point is 00:29:15 i believe that of all these three pictures there you in the center are the oldest uh... by a good amount i would say because again jim liland is
Starting point is 00:29:24 forty two there sparklyy Henderson is 50. Call him a play for Dan Lovato right now. That is crazy. Greg Cody, before I get to Mike Ryan and his thoughts on taking out an athlete that these days, no one's taking out. Loser. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Big time loser. Mike Ryan, I don't know if people can guess. Can people try and guess who it is that Mike Ryan is calling a loser? Because this is not someone that a lot of people call a loser. But because the dolphins are such a national story today, and because I will maintain, there hasn't been a game like that one all year. Double digit dogs. Look, there are upsets in that sport, but double
Starting point is 00:30:09 digit dogs at home that are good at the end of the season when everyone's broken and a team doesn't have anything to play for. Like that game has not happened in this season. I have been- Right. ... ...of the play for the next season. ...understandable. I feel like a world-class idiot because I had the swap helmet in the bucket of death, and I've been doing very well. I swapped my G-Men for the dolphins.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Ah! Oh, it's usually embarrassing. I gotta dress up and get all kinky for Dan. Greg Cody, this is your wheelhouse. Well, the dolphins have earned all the doubts about them, okay? They haven't won a playoff game since 22,000, 23 years, almost a quarter of a century, and they have this recent history of fizzling in December, of failing when it matters the most.
Starting point is 00:30:59 So, all of the ghosts come back with a game like last night, okay? All of the scars are open again. All of the wounds are open again because long time fans remember, wow, this is familiar. We're having a good season, we lose again, we shouldn't and then it all goes to hell. So if the dolphins are special this year
Starting point is 00:31:19 and I think they are, this is the time to prove it. They have to beat the jets and then they have three of the most difficult games imaginable, they got to win at least two out of those three. Two word home, by the way. Two word home, but all three are eminently loosable, and the jets game, frankly, is loosable.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Zach Wilson actually looked really good. If last night's game is loosable, they're all loosable. Yes. Correct. Yeah, but that's the way it is with the NFL though. Like who's who's an invincible team? Well, it had been them against bad teams until now. They were. No. And now it's San Francisco for the moment.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Okay. Healthy healthy San Francisco has looked invincible, Dallas at home. Right. Looked invincible. True. Dolphins weren't healthy last night though Like I know you can probably do this game when the Niners lost this year. They had injuries like it's just it's it's almost Unnecessary to talk about because it's like yeah, they were hurt It's just like a lazy conversation to have but they were three guys on the offensive line and then to re kill first quarter
Starting point is 00:32:20 Everybody's heard it's December the NFL you're looking at the Cleveland Browns How inspired are you right now they're on Joe Flacco four quarterbacks? Carried's out there with one arm out there big chub went out week two and you want to complain about one offensive Lime and shut up to kick your ass you better not be playing games too off you better win some of these games because if you see Cleveland In the playoffs, let me tell you something brother. Yeah, they're coming and they're dragging you in a rock fight You know what you need to do if you play the Cleveland Browns and the playoffs, you need to pack a lunch. Did you just, are you packing a lunch for a rock fight?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Celebrating the Browns? I mean, you could plug in any team. You could plug in the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Colts seems like they're FIC-C2. I believe some of your legions are showing here. Texans are difficult too. Texans are probably gonna make it. Not as passionate about that.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You don't wanna face that. You don't seem to have the same... Oh, it's just, I mean, the Dolphin Dolphin had such... Someone so it was hurt. Everybody's hurt, man. Do we bring a lunch to the Texans? The Titans were hurt. And you failed to beat the Titans.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I mean, you want to prove to me that you're not gonna lose a franchise? How about you win some of these games? They won eight in a row against teams that they should be. It's like you're Dolf out. Eight in a row. Can we do this? It's showing an open challenge, but you're gonna lose the Browns. Can we put...
Starting point is 00:33:35 I'd be at that game as a neutral observer. The game together that allows us to select survivor style officially and furthermore, whether people around here are dolphin or dolphin out, we will go to the Super Bowl if the dolphins have a chance to get to the Super Bowl. Our show will go to the Super Bowl. If the dolphins are in play, but I do believe that what Greg Cody is saying here
Starting point is 00:33:59 is true, I heard it too much last night, so you guys my phone lit up. The fan base of the Miami Dolphins that is generational is fearing and doubting and waiting for that game to happen. And the moment it happens, they forget about the previous two months. They really do. So, gots, I saw it. I'm like, wow, all of these people are saying, I felt this before in December.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You have to understand that in my case, to God's, it's not just that I'm the urinator and objective observer guy. I haven't believed in this team for 20 years and I've been right for 20 years on this team. And the only reason I'm in this year is because of how different it has all looked because I know their coach is good of how different it has all looked. Because I know their coach is good, I know their offense is good, but yesterday their key player gets injured on one of these plays that's going to be illegal in a couple of years. That kind of tackle is soon going to be gone from the game. And as soon as he goes to the sideline, he took all my hope with him.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Like I'm like, at that that the way that game was ending and What Tennessee did where I'm like why is Jalen Ramsey not on Deandre Hopkins like why is he 15 yards behind him How did Tennessee just get down the field in two plays on the defense? I keep getting told is good in a spot where everyone needed the defense to be good and I'm watching a football team have happened to them at the end of that game, Stugat. Every hope I've had for every 45 to 15 result the dolphins have had against bad teams.
Starting point is 00:35:35 As soon as Tyree killed, went to the sidelines, I'm like, they're not coming back in this game. Tuwa has not had enough time in the pocket for him to go down the field and even get a feel goal. They were down by a point and I lost my confidence in everything that was happening, Dolphin related. And here's another thing, Stugots, because I wasn't watching it.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I had just left our watch party and I was listening on the radio. Big dog. The local radio, but this is what I wanna tell you that I heard. I actually like that 15 seconds of silence when I watch the replay. Big dog. The local radio. But this is what I want to tell you that I heard you like that 15 seconds of silence. Oh, yeah. This is what I want. Just tell me down in distance, please. I mean, this is one time. Please. Okay. I do not want to kill. I'm not doing that. We're not doing it. I don't want to kill Jimmy Cephalo and Joe Rose the way that Billy
Starting point is 00:36:21 Gill. Billy kill. I did know such thing. Billy Kill killed. I didn't know such thing. Show Hay O'Connor. closest I came was cutting Jason Sanders. Kill he Gill. The thing that I heard on the radio around the 15 seconds of silences that are not good for radio, and I legitimately was having a hard time telling, is this because these broadcasters are indeed older
Starting point is 00:36:51 or is it a despondence I hear after a lifetime of both of them watching and playing Dolphin Football? What I heard on my radio from a couple of Dolphin legends sounded to me like somber stunned despondents. They, I don't think they were just tired at the end of the night the way that old people get. Right. Although it could have been that.
Starting point is 00:37:16 It is possible that it is that, but they sounded so defeated and so despondent as if all of their worst fears they just witnessed it they did not have the words to describe it around the silence that might have been there just because they were watching the replays i don't blame the fans and don't blame jimmy i don't blame jowl like then the jets are a tortured fan base were always expecting the worst possible thing to happen that's because usually the worst possible thing happens error rogers you finally get him.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He tears as a kill, he's four plays into the season. So I don't blame fans for being scored. They expect the worst. That's the way fans are. I do not blame them at all. I know this season seems different, but fans are the same and they'll always be the same. I'm not sure if you heard it on TV,
Starting point is 00:38:00 but in the stadium, there was booing as that game ended. Dolph and fans were booing as that game ended. Dolphin fans were booing their 9-4 team and it wasn't super prevalent. It didn't last long but the Dolphin fans were booing their team at 9-4. In the reason what I heard in that booing is frustration because fans are thinking finally we thought we were above and beyond this kind of a performance. We thought we were past this and it's happened again. This is Inu Alun and Proof Dan Lebatar Show with the Stugas. Gamble on by GraphKins.

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