The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The NBA Name Hall of Fame

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

The Dallas Stars video has EVERYTHING but...she wasn't there. Then, a fight at a screening of Garfield, Jeremy makes some top tier* jokes, Kenny G joins Dan on South Beach Sessions, and Ric Flair goes scorched earth on an restaurant employee. Plus, Mike issues a correction before Stan Van Gundy joins the show. Stan chats with us about Hall of Famers, Role Player Hall of Famers, and the NBA Name Hall of Fame while discussing the Celtics dominance, the young teams in the East, and Pat Riley's comments on Jimmy Butler. *Jeremy wrote this description. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's 3-0 Stars. Let me tuck in. Well, what you missed was yet another overtime in Colorado coming all the way back from a 3-0 deficit to win 4-3. There are so many Stars, no pun intended, on that ice. Dallas is probably the deepest team in the league. This series has everything. It's had hot goaltenders coming into this series,

really young quality players, there's star boys all over this ice, and if you're a nostalgic puck head, you got Zach Parise and Joe Pavelski on the ice as well. But one thing was missing last night, and I'm pretty sure the Dallas Stars felt the impact. She wasn't there. She wasn't?

She was not there. And you can't win those big games without her. If you know you know. If you've watched a Dallas Sars game of Import over the last few years you know exactly who I'm talking about. She was not there. Was there an explanation? There never is Dan. But when she's there you know because the group chat is a buzzin'. Hell, Biz will tell you. That's one of my favorite parts when they have Dallas Stars games and she's there. Biz is like, she's there! He loves it. This is one of the great things about this sport. Her. Three goals down and that's your analysis coming wasn't there.

She wasn't there. She wasn't there. She wasn't there when they went down three nothing either. She wasn't there. They were up three. She wasn't there. She was there for game seven against the Knights to which like anytime she's there. You're hoping for a cutaway of the opposing head coach.

Right. And what happened when she was there game seven. They won. They won. She was there. She wasn't there last night. I want to get to some video here that I want to show you. I don't know how many of you in our audience have found yourself in fist fights. I have told you, Stugats, that I retired from the fist fight game shortly after college. from the fistfight game shortly after college. I remember the feeling of being sitting in the street with a car pulling up and hitting its brakes so it would not hit me because I got my shirt pulled over my head and my I'd lost a shoe and

my my ear was bleeding because until that point I wasn't somebody who had a lot of fear in bar fights but I've told you the story of as soon as I squared up against this person, I saw that this person wasn't afraid, and once I registered that, I said to myself, oh, that means I'm the one who's afraid here, because, and then he was good at mixed martial arts, and then my shirt got pulled over my head, and I didn't do any-

You retired, I mean, you're fighting- I retired. Were you fighting Rob Ray? No, it wasn't a professional. It wasn't a. Sue Grimson? It was not a professional mixed martial artist, but it was somebody who knew how to fight clearly.

And I was quite the amateur and that's when it all ended, the bloody ear. But here you've got a strange setting for a fist fight to break out, and I don't think that we have audio on this. I think it's just B-roll, but it's at a Garfield movie, and what ends up happening is some guy wants to fight and he doesn't realize that he has picked a fight

with somebody who's a Spanish boxer, who's a professional boxer. And so what ends up happening with... Oh, wow. Yeah, you square up and... Square it up. Yeah, you square up against somebody and you see that they're on their toes

and it doesn't go well, yeah. There was a lot of real estate acquired the second he got into that stance. Yes, and this goes about the way that you'd expect, except there's also Garfield on the screen in the background as a cartoon And so it's a it's a little bit weird to see the adults behaving that way in a in a movie theater I'm assuming is filled with children. I think that video was a couple days ago. Those guys must really hate Mondays. Oh boy

We're to see a cat fight at Garfield. Oh, come on, man. Maybe you call them a pussy cat. Get out, get out. From you? Out, three of them? Six minutes. Three of them? How many more of those did you have?

Three of them? That was it? That was it, it was all the way down the line. I see the disgust on Juju's face. I second it. I don't know what can be the longest penalty administered to him. Ten minute major. I don't understand why he has chosen bad jokes as the lane that hasn't been taken by other

sports takers. Dad jokes and bad jokes, but yet another bad investment by you Bally's and it's why you it's why you have a corner office in bankruptcy court because you've decided to get into the bad joke now that's exclusive to us he seems to save the other stuff for now he doesn't do that elsewhere no there doesn't do, it's a, I don't, we have not had, Cody takes some delight in that, but Cody also provides the balance of some good ones. Occasionally, yes. He just fired off, they kept getting worse.

Here's what I need to tell the audience about some of the things happening around here that make things difficult. Does anyone listening to this hear that it sounds like I'm in a subway station? That there seems to have been trains going on here and it's just building construction, but the entire show I have felt a small jackhammering

in my ear and so as if that's not annoying enough to have Jeremy then hit me with not one, but three bad Garfield jokes. For those that are unfamiliar, we're at the Elcer, and the Elcer took us on at a time where we were without a home. And they moved us into a building. There was still ongoing construction,

and they're still improving this hotel. They're working on restaurants and whatnot. And occasionally- Did you know they were putting in a roller coaster? I don't. This is a very bizarre sensation because it sounds a lot like my morning commute. I don't know if there's some sandblasting going on.

And I don't think it's being picked up by the microphones, thankfully, but we have really persevered. No, it's a battering. If, look, there are any number of reasons that you can complain about the show these days, but today what I am telling you is I have felt like I'm in a rollicking subway car.

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slash d l b. There's no safe like SimpliSafe. Don LeBattard. Your history with him suggests three years of heaters. Three years of heaters. But this stug two gods my partner enlivened by a sports we're having sex baby and Joe Mauer yes like this is the best version of him what two gods now you are yeah the the feels good this is

the done libertar show with a stew God Stu Gatz. Stu Gatz, listeners of this show are going to be delighted on Friday if you're a long time listener of this show with who's appearing on South Beach Sessions. I want to show you here, this is a visual joke that they have used to promote this week's South Beach Session and I'm guessing you have not seen it yet because when you leave here you tend to not know a single thing that's happening around anyone's life around here so let's go. The article where he had to be told and informed by the reporter saying you know when you're not there they have a lower third that says without Stu Gotz.

News to me. Stu Gotz is consistently coming in here and saying, I wasn't told about this and that and this and that because he doesn't know how to use Slack. Like he's not participating. I don't want to use Slack. Too many channels, too many things going on. I know, but it's the way people communicate around here

and you keep saying. How about pick up the phone? I mean. Oh, because that works I will say this if Stu gots gets you on the phone you won't get off like Stu gots answer this phone the problem is getting him off I'm a big phone guy I like direct conversation I want to hear the words come out of your mouth I want to hear your response to the words coming out of my mouth I mean that's the way people

communicate that's how three as I am to thank you. What are you laughing about? I don't know. Sorry. The entire conversation is ridiculous I just spent so much time complaining that no one tells him anything when no one else has to be told because we're all Communicating in the same way except for him. He refuses to learn but here is the reveal on who's gonna be joining us on Friday on South Beach Sessions. I'm flipping through some channels in my car, some serious satellite channels, and I've arrived at real jazz. Oh, ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho Yeah, that's where he's been people People have been asking where's he been for years, and I've just been chauffeuring him around everywhere Kenny G is gonna be making an appearance on Friday

It's a long conversation and I delighted in having it because I got to ask him everything long time Friend of the show it is good to have him back somebody else who has spent a great deal of time around our show is have him back. Somebody else who has spent a great deal of time around our show is the Nature Boy, Rick Flair, who has had a fascinating life for a number of reasons, including he was struck by lightning, and the last time I talked about him, he said simply that he'd had a heart attack

in his last match a few months ago, that he just played through. Played through on a heart attack. Hockey player. Yeah, I mean, he's a... 16-time world champ, you just power through. You just through on a heart attack. Hockey player. Yeah, I mean he's a... 16 time world champ, you just power through. You just power through a heart attack and I don't actually doubt him when he says it.

I'm not... Why would you? Well, I mean, because it seems like it would be pretty hard to wrestle with a heart attack. And if you watch that match, it appeared to be very hard for him to wrestle and if anyone's ever looked like they might Have had a heart attack that they didn't know what happened. Yes. It wasn't him in that match, right?

I mean, I told you earlier this week. No one is flirted with death and is still alive more than Ric Flair I mean and I do he flirts with it like every other year Keith Richards is still kicking Wow There is Keith Richards Keith are you playing? Well, I told put it to Nikki six on the pole at Levitard show Who are you more surprised to still have alive Rick Flair? Keith Richards or Nikki six. It's gotta be Richards, man I think most people are gonna pick Richards, but again, you've died though Are you eliminated from this competition because that Nikki six is done done then. Yeah he's died and come back but has do do we have any proof that Keith Richards has survived a heart attack during a wrestling match? I don't know.

Nikki Sixx might be having a heart attack right now. I'm actually seeing him tomorrow. Where? In Daytona. Really? Yeah I go to Welcome to Rockville every year. I love this music festival. It's not a lot of music that you would necessarily maybe think of me being associated with, but I love it. It's a great festival in Daytona Motor Speedway. Who else is playing? Limp Bizkit. Wow. Which the last time I saw I went to attempt to see, I actually saw Limp Bizkit once with The last time I saw, I went to attempt to see, I actually saw Limp Bizkit once with Lebo and I had an unbelievable time at that concert

because that's the kind of stuff that Lebo would want. He's like, yeah, let's just go see Limp Bizkit. I mean, their energy had to be great. Did you see them at the height of Limp Bizkit? No, no, no. I've seen Limp Bizkit at the height of Limp Bizkit and yeah, but what's really cool is they've had this resurgence and it was totally organic.

Maybe there was nostalgia, it's hidden at the right moment. Their videos went viral from the Woodstock documentary and they're getting really young kids at their shows right now. And maybe their sound kind of, it aged poorly and it's come out on the other side. It's kind of like a, when Benny Blanco talks about it, his attractiveness. He's like, I think I'm so ugly that I'm attractive now. Maybe that's what's going on with Limp Bizkit. But yeah, Limp Bizkit's gonna be there.

Foo Fighters, or as Christopher Walken calls them, Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age, one of my favorite bands, Slipknot, another band that you might not think I love, but I love them. Oh, Judas Priest, so excited to see Judas Priest. That's gonna be an interesting crowd, Mike, in Daytona. Jelly Roll is gonna be there

Juju you disgusted by everything you're hearing right now. I'm trying not to judge really Judge the music trying to be inclusive. I'm trying to listen to my brother Michael tech nine is gonna be there insane clown posse It's just a weird wonderful Mess it's like Bally's sports business plan of music festivals. All over the place? Which is all over the place. Do you think the people listening to this know that Christopher Walken is a classically trained dancer?

That he's an exceptional dancer? Well, the Fatboy Slim music video. Yes, but I'm asking since it's so long ago. Yeah, Weapon of Choice is a bit of a dated reference. I'm wondering if the audience knows, it's not just that video, that's where I discovered it, but there are a number of places where you can see Christopher Walken dance and dance well and it's confusing to me every time I see it. I saw him dance in King of New York, he's a pretty good dancer. He's a classically trained dancer. You're pretty good. Thank you for, he danced throughout a music video.

Thank you for telling us that you think he's pretty good. But did you see King of New York? He's classically trained dancer who made a music video for Fatboy Slim that is only him dancing. Yeah, you were talking about Ric Flair in this video so a weird thing happened over the weekend where? Rick Flair. Was this in Gainesville? This was in Gainesville because he had family graduating so he took to Instagram and Twitter and he posted like this huge takeout of this Italian restaurant called Paisano's and He mentioned that he got into an argument with a manager. Well, let's show the tweet We've got video as well, but the tweet says, I spent $1,500.

First of all, before we get to Paisano's SFP. I mean, he comes out of the gate so hot in this tweet. It scrolled across my timeline. I was like, five words in. I was in. OK, yeah. You got your hooks in me. He had you at $1,500.

I spent $1,500 at Paisano's SFP to be disrespected. Keep in mind, it's weird. This tweet, it's not all caps, but every first letter of every word is capitalized. I spent $1,500 at Paisano's to be disrespected more than I ever have in my entire life. After taking 20 pictures with customers and staff, I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. I would highly recommend that anyone

who wants to enjoy a relaxing time in Gainesville at a nice restaurant to never visit this place. Woo! Woo! Woo! Stuck the landing. Five O's on that woo. Always, trademark, has to have five O's.

But then people started digging into this and Rick could have had this experience and this altercation at this bar, and nobody would have, maybe doesn't really get out, but like Rambo, first blood. And so the reports are coming out, people started asking the restaurant what actually happened here, they have their accounts,

so it becomes a he said he said. Now Rick Flair has stuck to his story, but I I will tell you his story starts to become undone by the closed captioning in this video because it is not keeping up with him. Yeah good well I've been there wrong. I've spent money and put this place over and bring my family and friends here. That is bad for you. Why would it be bad for you? Well, watch those videos tomorrow. What's your name, not the job. Nicholas what?

Nicholas, **** head. Pop. Don't ever talk. You don't have to call me that. You don't have to do this to me. You're really leaving my family. I'm not leaving you. I didn't do one thing wrong. I walked into a bathroom.

You're a kid of high cost. Really, what world are you living in? No ma'am, I'm going to give you a thousand dollar tip just to say to him, kiss my ass. If you walk outside here, I know you are, you're respecting me. Tell me to leave. I'm not telling you to leave, I'm just telling you that you're cut off. Oh, I'm cut off in a drug? Really? Yes sir. This guy and I are cool. She and I are cool. And welcome to ****. You don't have to hold me to that. Close caption. Having a difficult time. I'll say it again. You're a ****.

You think he meant to say dipshit, not Egyptian? Why leave me? Trust me. I will come back again. Come on outside here and talk to me like a man. I'm not going to do that because I'm on the clock. Of course you are. You are the **** block. And then another guy at the bar steps up to him. It's an embarrassing look, but here's the thing about Nature Boy, and I'm not excusing this behavior.

Do you remember the Jason Statham film Crank? In order to stay alive, his heart rate has to be at a certain level the entire time, to the point that there's actually a scene in the movie where Jason Statham uses a defibrillator on himself. That's kind of where nature is at this point. The party has to keep going, because if it doesn't and it stops, he might stop. Put it on the poll, please, at LeBotard Show,

should Ric Flair walk into the afternoon bar with a defibrillator? Well, he's got a pacemaker, let's say. But nothing will break a man than when that man has to go to the bathroom and he's waiting in line. You could have the best time at that restaurant, but the second you're waiting in line to go to the bathroom and you really have to go,

that great time becomes a bad time. Well, you know how this show maybe missed an angle when talking about Ben Affleck at the roast? There's an angle here about taking too long in the bathroom where if you've done some social media sleuthing you understand what part of one side is and what his side is. I think I'd tell the guy to kiss Rick Flair's ass for a thousand dollar tip. I'd do it for five hundred.

I'd do it for a thousand and I'd give the other person a piece of that, right? And then Rick Flair goes away and... I've done it for free thousand, I'd give the other person a piece of that, right? And then Ric Flair goes away and. I've done it for free. We're all the richer. I have a number of things that I found to be interesting about this because he was being cut off and he does sound like he's drunk,

but he also sounds like he had a heart attack in his last wrestling match and he also sounds like he was once hit by lightning. Yeah, he does have like he was once hit by lightning. And he also sounds- Yeah, he does have like a slurried drawl. But he's being cut off by the bar, and the tweet said something about, he said after having an issue with,

this phrasing here, leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. That creates for me more questions than it answers. Yeah, well, like you don't have to dig too far to see the answers, but again, like, you know, Nate's just gonna Natech. The people are trying to embarrass Natech with this video. Right.

I mean, he even uses wrestling lingo. He's like, I could have put this place over. He doesn't care. He's scurried to death like 12 times. Listen here, Paisanos, I could have put you over. How do you think a fight would have gone had the person taken him up on the off-front gun? That's a good question.

He would have ran up the turnbuckle, flipped over, thinking that he could actually do a high-risk maneuver from the top rope. I think he's only landed it twice, and then he would have been grabbed by the pelvis and the shoulders, and he would have been like, oh, no, no, no, no, and then slammed from the top rope.

Why does he keep doing that? It's like Bally's thinking that they can try their hand in a new business. They're literally Ric Flair running to the top rope thinking that he can land a frog splash. It ends with him cutting his forehead with a razor blade and the figure four leg lock by the kitchen. Beat the hell out of Ric Flair.

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You know how these late season games are. We don't know. Download Game Time today, last national game on TV tonight. I was gonna watch, now I'm not gonna watch. Holy shit, that was a shitty sales job. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugarts. We are about to go deep inside of the intimacy of Stan Van Gundy and a rumpled bed behind him. That is a freshly slept in bed behind him. We are getting into his life deeply in order to get the freshest of basketball analysis. We'll get to it in a second, but first, Mike Ryan has a very important journalistic correction because you know we pride ourselves on accuracy

around here. Even though Stu Gott said yesterday that horse racing is dead after they got their best rating since 1989. Yeah it's dead. Dan I don't get it wrong often but when I do I need to be urgent and decisive with my correction and guys I had it wrong. She was there. Oh yeah this tweet comes from Sean Joseph. Natalie Gavreau at sexy Nat G and again in the interest of journalism that handle is at sexy Nat G was back for game one for the second round. In fact I saw a video of her happily singing along with Sysmopadown's Chop Suey. So it seems like next game she needs to not be there. Let's not get too right. Why did you miss it? Let's get to Stan Van Gundy. Let's not get I need to get to stand Van Gunn lost Pete DeBoer is elite. I mean tunnel vision

We need to bring in Stan Van Gundy and get the freshest of basketball analysis And sexy nachi was the games is that stands? What is that stands Twitter handle at sexy SVG? It is nice to see you Stan It is always nice to see you have told us that you would be shocked if anyone other than the Celtics won the championship I Believe that I have not seen a lot of teams in my lifetime that do it this way, Stan, where they just, over the course of the game,

grind the lead from eight to 12 to 15 to 19 to 25 to 33 with no comebacks, like where they just bury you and we're more talented than you are. Well, that's exactly what it is in the East and I think we'll just see more and more of that now since I have said that about them being the overwhelming favorites, I still think they're the favorites but we can't ignore what Minnesota and Oklahoma City are doing I mean

5 dominant games by each of them playing both ends of the floor so the NBA finals could set up being great. What do you make of the way the league has been overtaken by the new blood, Stan, because this is a different time. We are not used to young teams going deep into the playoffs. We are not used to the idea that a Minnesota or an OKC can do something like this without suffering a great deal. There isn't, in the history of basketball,

those teams have to do some losing before they get to the finals. Yeah, they're just really good. And I think in the case of both of those teams, they've also got great points. Look, Oklahoma City's the youngest team in this and have been all year. And I've said to people all year, like, when you watch them, forget about their birth certificates. When you watch them, what is it that says young to you? Is it that, you know, well,

they get a little wild at times? No, you don't see that. Is it that they don't commit at the defensive end? No, you don't see that. Do they lose their composure when like calls go against them and things? No, that doesn't happen. They're probably the most poised team in the league. So I've sort of laughed all year at the people who just think while this team's too young nothing about them other than

their birth certificates says team's too young. Nothing about them other than their birth certificates says that they're young. They don't play like a young team in Minnesota either, though Minnesota is not quite as young. I mean, they've got Conley and Gobert towns. Those guys have all been around. They're just young on the scene as a team, but they're not a young team. Yeah, those teams have been tremendous and what we're seeing is a lot of star power being laid to waste by these teams that are on the rise.

Well then, does most of the credit go to Coach Dagenholt? Because, I mean, the composure, the length, the scoring, this is exactly what a pro wants. I mean, what a pro needs. There you go Sing that though. You need to sing it what a pro. I don't get the reference. I don't get the reference I don't you want it you want to sing it for us Stan can you see? The commercial when you're on the broadcast are you aware of how often they're playing this Well, I know it's on there a lot. Yes. Yeah, but it's not in your headsets like when you're on a game. No. I have grown to really dislike Shane Gillis Alexander and Chet Holmgren. Why?

Because of the commercial? Yes, yes, yeah, no. I don't know how could anyone root for these things. I know you just said why you would root for them, but this is a national nightmare. It's an international nightmare. And make it make sense, this commercial is playing twice as much during hockey games. Well, yes, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but we do cross promote. You know, all of the net both of the networks cross promote because we both have hockey and all of the net both of the networks cross promote because we both have hockey and and basketball so yeah that's that's how it they have to make another commercial where they poke fun at themselves because there's a prevailing theory that

because it's the market of Oklahoma City that's the only way that you can like talk people into doing this rather embarrassing overexposed commercial the next AT&T commercial that they do needs to be them singing this and people running away from them or just poke fun at themselves for doing this to us, because it is quite honestly the worst thing going on television. And I include Newsmax. Oh, oh no, I don't know about that now. I don't know about that.

Are you okay with the idea that Rudy Gobert is a Hall of Famer? You know, I would think that by the standards of who we've already put in, I don't think there's any question he's a Hall of Famer. I have said for years and not aimed at any one player specifically that I don't think our standards are high enough. I think the Hall of Fame should be for the absolute best of the best. I had someone tell me a few years back, gave me a criteria that made a lot of sense to me if you couldn't be

The best player on a 50-win team you don't belong in the Hall of Fame And and that makes a lot of sense to me So you might be the second or third best player on a team But if you were our best player would we still be really good that that should be a standard for Hall of Famers there shouldn't be a role player Hall of Fame or just a defensive players Hall of Fame Rudy's a great defender if Rudy Gobert were your best player you're not winning 50 games I do like the idea of a role player Hall of Fame though but and we'll get back to that stand but Rudy go bear if you're coaching the Timberwolves and he comes to you and he says hey, I need to be there My wife is having a child. I need to miss game two of the Western Conference semifinals. What is your response to that?

Yeah, that's his decision. I don't have a problem with that. That's his decision. I mean look there's there's very few things if any that are more important in your life than the than the birth of a child and so You know, I don't have any problem with that whatsoever Stan. Can you give me a Top five role-player Hall of Fame. I'd like to do that right now first ballot role-player Hall of Famers right now Oh, wow, I'd like to do it right now. First ballot, role player, Hall of Famers right now. I'd like to do it with you. Big shot Bob. I probably couldn't.

I mean, off the top of my head though, there's a lot of great role players. But Bob Ory, he just picked one. Like you have to, that's gotta be a first. His role was to hit big shots. Andy won many championships doing that. How many did he win? Six?

That's a good one. I mean, I think to me you would look at this whole group of defenders and rebounders, right? You'd look at Rodman and Ben Wallace and... Wow. But they're in the actual Hall of Fame. They're in the actual... Well, they have no business being in the Hall of Fame is what Stan is saying. If those people are not... But I are saying? I didn't say that. Stu got you did say that. You got to say that. Everyone heard that.

Everyone said no. Go bear and Ben Wallace and Rodman have no business being in the Hall of Fame. That's what you said. Listen, the Hall of Fame is an idiot. Whatever, but you know, I just think we don't necessarily confine it to the absolute best of the best. I mean, we've got some guys in there that were never first team all NBA. You know, like you should be a multiple all NBA guy. Like you have to have been a top 10 player in your era I would think at

some time I don't know I just I just look at it differently and then the bigger problem we have in the NBA is we don't have an NBA Hall of Fame you know what we're combined with international leagues and women's basketball and college basketball. And so it's a little bit convoluted. And I love the hall of fame. I mean, I love going through there. Haven't been in a few years. I think the last time was maybe seven years ago,

but it's a great place and it celebrates the game. But as far as the criteria getting in, it gets pretty tough. Lawrence Thunderbird. Excellent. I don tough. Lawrence Thunderburke. Excellent. I don't think Lawrence Thunderburke would be in the role-player hall. Just wanted to say Lawrence Thunderburke. You know, in the name hall thing?

Yes, that's a different game. Wait a minute, let's play that game. That's God Sham God? Is God Sham God in the name? Oh, yes. In the name. God Sham God's in sham God in the net. Oh, yeah In the playoffs right now, too he's an assistant coach with the Dallas Mavericks who else is in the name Hall of Fame because this

I see I'm not this is way out of my area of expertise, but you brought it up It's one of those things that you know, I brought it up when Mike brought up Lawrence Thunderbird, but how about world? How about like I'm sitting here with a list of names world be free well yes absolutely yeah MVP of the all-name team right there Detlef Shrempf well what was it world be free and then we had Metta World Peace you know Detlef Sh deadlift shrimp might actually be a role playing hall of fame. I think he's in the hall of fame. A donald foyle. Wow, man. Wow, you're good. You made me happy with that one.

Is Stan, I did it. I seem to tickle you, but I couldn't tickle Stan. Look at Stan. Stan unimpressed by a donald foyle. No, I'm not unimpressed. I coached a Donald foil. I love a Donald foil. Fat Lever. That's a good name. Speedy Claxton. I don't think Speedy was actually his name. The problem with Speedy Claxton is he was a great name. The guy never played. He was always hurt. I think it was his nickname. Wasn't Speedy his nickname? Yeah but he went by Speedy Claxton is a great name. The guy never played. I mean, he just, he was always hurt. I think it was his nickname. Wasn't Speedy his nickname. Yeah, but he went by Speedy. I don't think anyone called him Nick. If that even is his first name. Did he go by Speedy? Stan did somebody, I don't know. No one would have ever called me that. No, this guy never made it, but Schoonie Penn. You think that was his name? I mean, I coached Schoonie pen you think that was his name I mean I coached I coached

schoonie in summer league and I remember him as a high school player in Massachusetts played for a good friend of mine love schoonie look at me Louie pick that name up off the ground and hand it to me Speedy's first name is Craig thank you Stu gots I that. Stugatz here for my friends over at Simply Safe. When you travel, do concerns back home nag you? Did you lock up? Did you leave a window open? That's why I recommend investing in Simply Safe Home Security today for award-winning

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