The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Team Dan Takeover

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

Team Dan is here and begins the hour with an apology and admitting to having sent a spy to Team Stu. They take a look back at the dramatic Game 6 between Boston and Miami and Celtics fans making excuses for their Game 7 loss. Then, Mike analyzes his own perfectionism, Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley love the "maximum challenge," and a group discussion on how much of the credit for the Heat's win can actually go to Jayson Tatum's ankle. Plus, Tony says he'd be a good on-court pairing with Max Strus and our joy in Bill Simmons' misery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat's Podcast. I want to ask forgiveness of the audience for an assortment of different things that couldn't be controlled today, including the power going out on what is a big day for our show in metal, not listen to the suit two segments done before this one as Stugots has been left to his own devices. And Stugots as soon as the lights went out in our previous studio started putting Larry Bird and the chief and an assortment of other people at that game who were not at that game because he takes advantage of energy situations to just say what he wants even if it's false and uncomfortable. And now team B, I'm sorry, I shouldn't do that. That works.

That's that's a. Yeah, we say team Dan team Sue. Yeah, Steve team got a got real hairy there. Yeah, Stugat's got emotionally hurt by B team when he was doing it by himself. Team Stugat was left to its own devices for two segments, Mike. And I don't have the bandwidth and you don't have the bandwidth to have checked what those segments were and are that Stu got just did when left to his own devices. I do not trust him. You know this. And I am

fearful of whatever it is that he's putting out by himself over there. It might be next talk for all I know. It's not just two you need to worry about. It's a combination of sugaats and Billy, which is why I put in my spy, Jeremy Tashay to kind of just be the adult in the room, even though according to tenure, he's here the shortest amount of time. According to tenure, he's 10 years old. He's been in the mid tenure tenure. Jeremy Tashay is what we're trusting over there. He's starting his embryonic. He smells like embryonic. Tell me I'm lying to you when I say I trust you. Trust me more than anybody.

You're absolutely right. There's Greg Cody. You heard him. Perhaps just clearing his throat into the microphone. Thank you. That was cackling. That was actually a cackle. Thank you.

We need you. We need you Greg. We need you Greg. Thank you. I'm here for you because I want to talk about a couple of different things that I don't want to just skip past today because the last game is the most important game and it is the most fun thing to talk about. Can we talk for a second about game six? Please.

I want to. Well, well, Tony says, please. And Mike just shakes it said, no, because he's still mad about it. He's pretending he's not mad about it, but it was the rest job. Does 10 to the second. We're going to lose now. Mike, Ryan, you were off to see. You drifted off to see. I need you to admit it in front of everybody.

Yeah, I was off to see. I was. It was, it was a terrible performance from the the stars of the Miami heat. You were you were counting on Duncan Robinson to be the tough one mentally and you knew that he was going to eat in that scenario. But then he missed two wide open, open gym jump shots that were completely be wilderness for someone who's statistically is one of the greatest three point shooters in the history of the game. Five dollars. Game six. Game six was a disaster. Game six was a disaster. And also, I'm still confused as to how Miami had an opportunity to win that game. Because Miami was so poor, so terrible gave up second and third chance opportunity after third chance opportunity

to boss and bossam was dying to give that game away and they almost did. And if it wasn't for Max Trues, totally ball watching on that final play, it's over there. It's over then and there. Oh, game six pissed me off. Game six really pissed me off. The officiating was bad. I can't believe the Miami heat survived. Tony Brothers and Scott Foster wasn't even close and they wore the black uniforms in our faces.

They wore the black uniforms. Couple of things. One, I love Max Truce like a brother. I think him and I on a team would be very good together. One, for the love of God. Two, he was a photographer on that last in Bounce Play. A photographer. Do you know what that means, Dan? He was taking pictures. The rebound was there and he was taking pictures of the rebound. Do I know what that means to be a photographer? Uh, take a way. In a rebound setting, if you're a photographer,

that means you're watching somebody else get the rebound and you're taking a mental picture of it. So Max took a bit of a mental picture. Uh, Derek, why put that in? But for me, it was like, how do you have Jimmy and Bam go? What was it nine for 74 from from the field like it was one of the most incredible games I've ever seen were nothing was getting back to the basket shots for Bam nothing Jimmy at the cup nothing It was like this game should be over before it even started and he had no legs nothing he had no legs You could see in the in the seven, his lift was a lot better.

But I also don't know if that was just because he abandoned the pump fake altogether. Game six, there is a growing list and people just choose to forget them when it comes to band performances. Like I reminded you, not so long ago, the one field goal made performance with your season on the line against Chicago. That game six at BAN had was atrocious. He wasn't very good last night, but we had guys like Caleb Martin and Gabe Vincent is going to people keep talking about Caleb Martin and the money that he made himself. He's under contract for another year. Gabe

Vincent, a three in D guy has absolutely earned a ton of money in these playoffs. That's one of the charms about the the heat playoff run. And this team in general is all of the points and all of the clutch performances they're getting from the quote undrafted guys and spoke hate using that term because he thinks it's disrespectful. But Gabe Vincent scores 29 points, a career playoff high. We just had Caleb Martin 29 points, a career playoff high. We just had Caleb Martin score 26, a career playoff high. Duncan shows up every every third game.

So does Max Truce. This team could win an NBA championship, even though Jimmy Butler takes a night off every once in a while, because his ankle is not quite right. Even though BAM is BAM every third game Where he's got the 11 points on terrible shooting and yet here they are I think it's an amazing story that they're getting so much from their bench Undratted players had 76 points a couple of games ago. It's remarkable Can we talk about the injuries because I I've listened to boss and Celtics

Podcast several since the result. And everyone's mentioning the Jason Tatum injury into a degree. I do think it's fair because defensively, one spoke realize it very late in that game that he could hunt them defensively. You had to consider just pulling Jason Tatum off the court at that point, but it was a little late before spoke figured that out.

But are we really gonna do this? We can't do this with the data. Well, this is what I'm gonna do, Mike. This is okay. Like we don't have to turn this into it matters from a credit perspective or respect perspective. Because people are making that the result. No, but let's do this.

The year that Janis won the title, weren't there an assortment of injuries to every single team that they played. Yeah. What you have to do this time of year is just be healthy enough that maybe some of the luck breaks your way. And you know what? Yoke it gets hurt in the first game in the finals. And you happen to be there and Boston isn't because you just got there. Like you need luck to win these these things are hard to win. Mike, like, I know you like you trade BAM every every three games, but it is hard to get to the point

where you're this close all the time. All the time teams and franchises fall back and instead of concentrating on the injuries with Boston or the injuries with the heat, the injury, the heat have had more injuries than any team in the sport this year. They've lost more games to injury and what. They're in the finals and it doesn't matter whether they got there because Tatum's foot got hurt or didn't get hurt. He he didn't do anything in the final game when they needed him and they lost by 20 points because

they're structurally flimsy because Jalen Brown was outplayed by Caleb Martin period not comma period outplayed their second best player They needed him to be a number one and instead Miami got a number one type performance where the announcers are saying Standman gun you're saying on television Jimmy Butler looks intimidated Caleb Martin did not look Caleb Martin did not look intimidated. How the bleak in a game seven in Boston this Caleb Martin not look intimidated. How does Caleb Martin think that he belongs in that arena where Stukats put Larry Bird and Robert Parrish even though they weren't there. The chief. I mean, the heat or missing Tyler here are they're missing 20 points of game from one of their most dynamic players and the Celtics is gonna make excuses.

You're right. Miami had the fourth most man games missed by injury in the entire NBA this season. They're also missing all of the people. You know, you can't use an excuse. You can't say Jason. It's not an excuse. It's an explanation. Of course, the way they lost though. No, of course, of course, it's a different game. If he's healthy, doesn't that go without saying it's obviously a different game. He really matters to them. Look, imagine what they even look like. He's also a 20 point beat down. It was also a 20 point beat down. I understand, but he was still knocking down open jays. The problems were defensively. I really think and he, he went way too long before

they realized he was a problem on defense. Mike, this is what I would say to you and I believe it is something that will go overlooked as people talk about the Tatum injury. The Braggden injury, he is important to setting up their offense when he's not the one setting up their offense. When he's not the one setting up their offense, it's Derek White and Marcus Smart that you're asking to compliment Jason Tatum. That's not what he had next to him all year. They had to pull, Rodden. He was minus 15 and they had to pull him in the game because he was over three and he couldn't make anything.

He's part of them not being able to make any of their three. It's a flawed team and he realized how much much the Danilo Galenari injury before the season killed them because he was exactly what they were missing against Miami. The one thing with Malcolm Brogdon, too, like, yes, he's a great player. And yes, he's what they wanted to make that offense run. But when you took him out like a chess piece, you take him out, you insert Derek White. He was the the spark plug for the entire series for the Celtics. Like if Derek White isn't there, Malcolm Braugden is not the offensive player that Derek White has been the last four or five games in that series. We applauded Brad Stevens's offseason because on a team that made it to the NBA finals, a team that finally

got over that Miami hump, they found a way to improve. They got Braugden and Galenari for those matchups to take them to the next level. Galenari wasn't available to them. Braugden was obviously not the same player. Greg, as our resident Homer, because there were a number of startling things happening, Duncan Robinson viewed as the weakest among the heat, cupping a hand do his ear in a silent guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. He's a big guy.

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Have you ever at the end of a game with your regional pride felt worse? Yeah. And by the way, part of the reason they lost that game six was because Duncan Robinson missed two wide open looks on threes. Yeah, it ranks up there. I mean, it Mike has mentioned the the game, UM football loss because of a referees call in the festival. I remember the Dolphins 41 to 38 playoff grueling over time game against the chargers. I mean, there have been other

heartaches, but to me, this heartache disappears because they won game seven. It goes away. It didn't even happen because they won Game 7. That's how what a crucible this game was in Miami Heat history and they won. Not gonna think. Hahaha! They're everywhere. If you listen to the ice, look, listen to the ice. Listen to the ice, cover your eyes. The fall is going through all the holes, but the more the terrorists don't know what to do. Watch the people who ask you to watch.

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Wow! This is the Dunluba Tar Show with the Stugats! Because we are so disjointed today because I'm uncomfortable with the music. I'm not going to be a fan of the music. I'm not going to be a fan of the music. I'm not going to be a fan of the music. I'm uncomfortable and awkward under all circumstances, because I can't just into a talk back ask Mike Ryan privately in his headset why he seems distraught or hurt or wounded in general

by the performance of our show today. Did you just drop your head into your hands last segment because I asked Greg Cody a question and he decided to again mention that Duncan Robinson missed two threes as if he weren't with us earlier in the show when you mentioned that or he was here but not clearly not listening.

And he saw we wanted to make the important point that it already been made. Is that why you dropped your head in your hands or was there another reason? Contrary to the entire history of this show as evidence, I'm a bit of a perfectionist. And I'm actually really proud of how today's show has gone. We mobilize pretty quickly and we're doing this for our audience

and we're getting them some content. But yeah, as someone that likes to consider themselves a perfectionist, today's been an absolute train wreck for me. And I, seeing a real professional outfit in the Dan Patrick show kind of laugh at us and not like, ha ha, this is funny. Like, oh, no, not kind no, not kind of like, like, oh, everything that they say in the self deprecating thing, it's just this huge bandage for an operation that's just shoddy, it's a shoddy operation. And we were finally announcing ourselves, we have this big fancy studio that can compete with

the damn Patrick's of the world. and the power goes out, but not enough, not enough to actually end the interview and save face. No, for whatever reason, the only thing that works is our connection to embarrassment in damn Patrick's show. So everyone can see what a what a poor operation we've got. Put it on the poll, please, Judeo at Levitard show is Greg Cody, the human impediment to perfectionism, because it is a difficult wrangle under the best of circumstances.

Keep in mind, in the rotten apple doesn't fall far from the tree. As far as I can tell, Chris Cody is still back in the penalty box since impersonating Jessica and the dark. We haven't found or seen him since then. I want to throw a stat at you guys.

If you guys really want to think that the measurements between these two teams make any sense or can be divided by injury or a tenth of a second, do you realize how batshit crazy it is that the last 23 times that the home team has played between the Celtics and heat. The home team's record in those games is seven and 16. That's the pistons this year. That's the

pistons this year at home is the home team is simply unable to win a game that matters unless they've got a tenth of a second given to them by the referees. And then sometimes you get a situation where a home team might win one of these games, seven and 16 at home, the home team's record. That's crazy. Dan and Greg, you've obviously covered Pat Riley for a long time. And in Dan's case,

you've gotten really close to Pat Riley and you asked me how game six sat with me and obviously I had a huge hole in my stomach and it bothered me from the moment that it happened, but I'm just naturally predisposed to know that Spowe and the Miami Heat, it's not going to bother them nearly as much. And I've bought in to that aura of Pat. And what I'm asking you is, did you also think that it wouldn't affect them? I find it impossible to think that they just produced a game that surprised me more than Game Six and Boston last year when Jimmy Butler went up there. And somehow that's a surprise as I've ever been

by a heat team and doing this this way, even with a Tatum injury was more surprising to me than that, especially when you pair it against some of the great things here, which is hole in your stomach for two days and in the middle of this fire, this has become a legitimate rivalry like where two teams, you know, people will laugh if they don't win championships.

But history and Miami will remember that at a time Miami and Boston, a young Boston team and Miami were fighting for the strength at the top of the conference that Miami wrestled it away from Boston, even though Boston looked like it had younger players who needed some of the toughness that Miami has with all of its undrafted players Greg. I want to bring you in as somebody who knows the history of the sport Pat Riley has been in winning time by Adam McKay on HBO since the 80s Pat Riley has been bleep Boston. I've talked to Pat Riley off air during this series. He enjoys more the feeling of being alive in a road arena before he's won the game. Just the fear, the doubt, the challenge, the competition, he enjoys more, obviously winning on the road, but playing on the road and being in the middle of what feels like hostility, what

he says is what? If you lose, they're not going to hang you in the town square by your thumbs. It's just more alive. So he's not afraid of those moments. He welcomes them and you saw Greg in the press conference after Spolstra lost. He's like, I want to start and play again right now because there's something about the buzz of that fear

that makes these guys bear their fangs, like they enjoy the challenge of maximum challenge. Yeah, Riley's been like that. I think he was steelled into that in the manner in which he left the mix and the reaction he got when he went back to Madison Square Garden. And ever since then, he has absolutely reveled in being hated. That's why what happened during the big three-year with LeBron down here for four years was so perfect is because that team reveled in being the national villain and in being booed everywhere they went. And this team has a little bit of that. And Riley was a very psychological-based coach and so is Spulstra.

They never sound more like Proto-Jay and Mentor than when Spulstra is playing a most devastating loss to his advantage. And I believe he did that. And I think he honestly and Jimmy Boller is right there with it because he thinks like that. And for those two to be able to turn around this team psyche and make fuel from it, I think is again, one of the most remarkable things about this remarkable run. If there is ever a case for sports manifestation, when they played that press conference of Jimmy after losing Game 7, he's like, hey, we're going to be right here again next year, and we're going to win it. Fast forward a year later, almost to the day, and they're up by 20 in the garden. And it's like, how did he do this?

All season, he's been the drumbeat of, this is that we're gonna do it, guys. Don't worry about this, everything's gonna be okay. Don't worry, don't worry. And he finally does it. And to credit, we're spo and Pat Riley, like, when you have such a devastating loss, where you're about to go to the NBA finals,

and it's taken from you in a matter of two seconds, often in bounce pass, to get back up and try to reach the level that you need to for a game seven in Boston is incredible. So like that coaching, the coaching staff and its entirety, for them to take those players and elevate them to that level, they deserve everything. Okay, you and Greg Cody are doing one thing. I would say the inspirational videos and the inspirational speeches did not injure Jason Tatum's ankle, which wasn't it. But Mike, why were you waving a handoff at Greg Cody while he was talking? I was waving a handoff at Tony because yes, I've gotten the goosebumps watching Jimmy Butler's speech from last year's

Eastern conference finals. And I saw what he said prior to game seven. And it was the exact same thing he said prior to game six. He guaranteed victory before game six. Well, yeah, he put up an egg, but he would just keep. He used to go. He just keeps saying. He just keeps saying. No, it's not the manifestation.

It is. No, saying it. It just keeps saying it. And you, well, it didn't manifest much like. Oh, this is not much like. Uh, uh, this is not much like two gods. You just get to weigh with it because everyone just understands that's how Jimmy Butler operates. He kind of has to say that stuff. So we won't hold him accountable for it. Then you were letting Boston off so easy by

blaming it on Tatum's injury without Tatum. All of the other players on that team that not named Tatum were eight for 42 from the three point line. That's why they lost that game. It wasn't because Tatum was injured. That was a factor. If Jason Tatum is not the solar system around which everything there was revolve to make it easier. everything there was revolves to make it easier while averaging 30 points a game in playoff games more often than Larry Bird did. If he is not there to be that and if we're all on television and on the sidelines watching as their number one can't play basketball and Mike Ryan and Stugots are saying today you got to bench him in the second half Stugots for Blake Griffin. If it's that much of a problem that they're playing, if they're playing five against four because their best player is someone that Mike and stugots are saying should be bench. Yeah, of course you would like to think that in that same situation, Max Truce and Duncan

Robinson and Gabe Vincent would go 15 for 30 from three, but the game gets a lot harder when at the end of it, spholster is concentrating on game six, just making sure Tatum doesn't get the ball. So the shot, the shitty shot they get at the end of that game is a spinning loop, deloop crazy Marcus smart three because it's the best they can do when their best guy is guarded. Don't tell me that that doesn't matter. It does, it does matter. But where you miss me with that is when you start rattling off the names that

Miami had to turn to because we're just casually accepting that spul from made it to the Eastern conference finals without a second best offensive player, entire hero with all these undrafted players. Yeah. Jason Tatum is banged up and he can't do the same things. He's still out there on the court. He's stuffing it out. He's randomly not getting treatment on this angle, which is a little bit weird, but he's got do the same things. He's still out there on the court. He's stuffing it out. He's randomly not getting treatment on this ankle, which is a little bit weird,

but he's got Jalen Brown there. He's got the former defensive player of the year of Marcus Smart. Jimmy Butler is doing this with Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin, who is waived by the Hornets. Like this is guts, this is guile. This is all those things that you attribute to heat culture. Yeah, Tatum's hobble.

Is that not the two seed? Is that not a game seven in the vaunted TD garden? It's like we're Caleb Martins delivering. They have a really good team outside of Jason Tatum. You wouldn't have any evidence of that from game seven. Agreed. I would just say to you that the way Jimmy Butler looked in game six, you saw how the heat looked when he looked like that. I don't want to just skip merrily past the fact that Stan Van Gundy was saying on television, Jimmy Butler looks intimidated.

And when Jimmy Butler looks intimidated, what happened? They had no business being in that game. The Celtics missed 11 shots in a row against that Miami Heat team where Jimmy Butler looked intimidated, but Miami looked terrible in a game at home and ultimately lost a game at home because your number one player at this time of year really manners. The number one player on any team throughout the history of the sport. If that guy is hobbled, you got a problem, Greg. You think that's me diminishing what the heat accomplished? Yes, because despite Jimmy Butler's going 14, For instance, looking terrible,

they were a tenth of a second from winning anyway. Don Lebertard. You getting started on the breakfast, Ron? Oh, man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning long. Breakfast, Ron, dun dun dun. Stu got shh. You never heard the breakfast, Ron? No, him, he went it.

Okay, I wish I had some breakfast, Ron, dun dun dun dun. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- This is the Don't Liberty Show with the Stugat. This continues to be a chaotic apocalypse today. We do not have power at our studios a really unfortunate time for that to happen. I would say that in the last 10 years of making content, there is one day that that needed to not happen. And that day was today. So Chris Cody can't find them might be on his train still penalty box. Don't know how we got grandpa Cody to the train on time, but we can't find Chris Cody. And I need more information on how much fallout there was the last time that we split teams up into what was called a team and B team and what was the B team did not like the appraisal?

I don't know what the details of that are was it stugots who was complaining about that? You Tony, weren't you a former member of B team? I was a part of team zebra, which is what a former member of B team? I was a part of Team Zebra, which is what we called ourselves, not B team. We changed it, flipped it on its head. We were a team Z and then witty for some reason who is the adult in the room at that time that Mike sent over. He called, he coined us Team Zebra. So yeah, it was fun.

How did you get promoted to team Dan? How did that happen? Because people need to talk about real hoopers and all the sudden boom, here we are. Yeah, but why do you and Mike, you were making fun during a break here of Tony saying, and we didn't make any fun of him. We're not nearly enough fun saying he and Max Struz would make a good team because they both have similar balls and shooting prowess. What was Tony doing there? I don't know why Tony decided to just volunteer that his game pairs well with

Max Cruz before actually giving us some analysis on the game. But Tony is here because we need that kind of analysis here in the ensemble. I'm just, you know, I'm kind of a puppet master. I realize that there's some high jinks. There's a professional standup comedian with Sue God's Billy. I could see that going off the rails. So what do I need? I need Jeremy Tashay to bring facts and be an adult there. Right, but we've already got, Tony over there. It's too much.

Tony over here, it's a nice little dollop of just his assholery. Okay, but we've already got Greg Cody's rodeo clown of assholery, which is enough assholery for everybody. We don't need any more rodeo clown assholery over here. We've got to match up. Don't forget just my my natural disposition, which is also very assholy and mine. We have which is also very I was planning on having Chris Cody here to kind of balance all that out, but Chris Cody's

with a different asshole in that Dan Burke. Okay. We will get everybody together. We will get team asshole together. Everybody in our two, but I want to I You were naturally doing the right thing and explaining to the listener that's probably very confused right now is Why we're in the situation that we're in but we've never actually told the audience as much as we love the Elser The Elser is still very much under construction It is a soft opening. And that's why occasionally you'll be hearing fire alarms go off in the background and we'll have police officers make sure things to code. We'll hear drilling, which I know some of you may have picked up on occasionally on our podcast. The building is still very much under construction.

Okay, but I need to explain also to the audience that basically from where we were to where we are, we are jumping from a crumbling physically building that was flooding with air conditioning one day we came in after the weekend and there was water up to our ankles and there were pipes and wires everywhere. We are jumping from one lily pad to another. Again, without missing shows, the way we didn't miss shows after we left the ESPN. And it's why we're a slip shot organization.

In general, in some days, we don't have power. I'm just saying that at any point in the last 10 years, it would have been better for this to happen than the time that it happened. In fact, I'm going to say at any point in the last 18 years, it would have been better. And we were in a building originally that I would simply describe as the Poltergeist house

when it was falling apart. So I want to just read to you a couple of things here. And because we don't have sound, we're just going to play sound from Mike's phone in a second. Because that is the height of the entertainment ladder where we now reside with the Bill Simmons is and the Dan Patrick's and the Pat McAfee's of the world and the pardon my takes. Here from, from ball don't lie, I am far from Bill Simmons' biggest fan. I rag on him in group chats often, but me thinks the media members taking the opportunity to shit on him today

Or just a wee bit jealous bottom line bill Simmons money makes Stephen A Smith money look like fifth grade allowance and my question to you guys the group is Do you believe that any of that money come for Tim today? believe that any of that money comes for Tim today. No, no, I don't. As someone that listened to his content today, I don't think it makes him feel better. I think he'd give up half that money to get out from paying Jaylen Brown $50 million, which is what he's a rubber to be looking for. Let me ask the question a different way. The man who had an emergency 90 minute podcast on Sunday to celebrate the 10th of a second where the season of

the Boston Celtics got saved and then flew to Boston yesterday to have a court side seat to his best player injured on the first play of the game. Do you believe that that human being is saying to himself as he walks like Kendall Roy out of the succession

conference room where he has been shivved by shiv? Do you believe that he checks his bank account today and says well at least I have this it doesn't feel quite so bad I'll go to one of my homes in Malibu and cry there. Yeah a little bit bit though, like the home in Malibu. Yeah. He's physically leaving the TD garden to go patch himself up over in his home in Malibu. I actually do think that makes him feel a lot better. This is, this is what I would say to all of America today, though, because if Bill Simmons is going to be the hood ornament or avatar on Boston privilege and Boston winning and Boston whining. Then the greatest thing in all of sports is going to be to enjoy the misery of someone who has lost that you can laugh at in sports the way that you can laugh at Nick Saven. When he does

a lot of winning all over the place, but when he falls on his face, you end up laughing at it a little bit because enjoying the misery of others is something that is one of the great sports joys that there are. Dude, I'm just happy it's not us. Someone was going to get laughed at hard considering the shape that this series took after game six. I'm just so happy. I'm more relieved than happy that my team is in the NBA finals. If that makes any sense, I'm more relieved that I don't have to hear Boston celebrating and Miami becoming meamed,

then I am to actually be in the NBA finals. Human nature, right, is that we enjoy the suffering of the rich more than we enjoy the suffering of the poor because the poor suffer enough. But when the rich suffer, it's like what an athlete is injured or suffering or crying after a game. The reaction is vitriolic.

It's like, ah, he's crying all the way to the bank. He's making $40 million a year, save the tears, buddy. So when Bill Simmons of all people is showing the face he's showing yesterday. I think we delight in that. Oh, but wait a minute, though. This is what I would tell you of all of Boston, though.

This is one of the things that makes the misery such a delight. Do you who are listening to this understand how much that city cares about that team, Patriots were laughing stock for generations before they were Tom Brady's team. That team, that history, Red R back, we invented basketball. Bill Russell is bigger than Michael Jordan. That franchise matters to generations handed down in that city, more than hockey, more than football, maybe the same as baseball, but baseball hasn't had that kind of winning basketball is what matters. And to know that that kind of caring is being beaten by a South Florida that Mike Bryant shrugged and has been telling you games ago, Our team's not that good. I don't expect

anything from that. It's not good. Not a good team. Bad team. A bad team made the NBA finals. They're bad team. Where this is the worst heat team in several years. And they just rounds Boston and game seven at their own place. Dan, what were the stats you gave a couple segments ago? There were like 30th in this, 25th in scoring. There were one of the worst teams in the NBA, and now they're in the finals. I was like, oh, that they were like super hurt. It happened, right?

In this postseason. They were, they're bad team. They were dead last in the NBA in scoring, weren't they? They, dead last. They're not a good team. They're bad team. Bad team. Apparently in today's NBA, bad teams can make the finals. Yeah, but

Caleb Martin. Oh, man. I have no idea. I have no idea how to explain this. And part of the the tears I was trying to drink up last night on E.I. and the sports hub was a lot of that was happening, Dan. A lot of people were saying, you know, the red socks are down. The Bruins seem to be headed in the wrong direction. Now the patriots have fallen off and we wonder what they'll be in a post-hombrey to world. This was supposed to be this course time to take that market for Boston to become a basketball town. And they lost to Jimmy Butler and a bunch of undrafted guys. Let's play some of this sound. Mike, how long? How many hours did you spend without your wife or your wife catching you partaking in the hub? I, uh, I finally went to bed at around one 30 a.m. after I was hubbing all night.

Hubbing all night and hubbubbub here. Did you hear Ryan Cortez call in? Because I believe this was the best call so far from Ryan Cortez, parakeet Cortez. He called and put your phone up to the microphone here, Mike, so that people can hear here at the top of the entertainment ladder. You just playing your phone for a national and international audience. Ryan Cortez calling. Dan, I appreciate the setup, but you have to keep in mind. I had another sound queued up on my phone. So you get.

All right. Well, let's, let's, I'll set that to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say,

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I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, that sound from the Bill Simmons podcast with Mike Sher. This is when there's the one guy in the horror movie who keeps pointing out to everybody else that something bad's gonna happen and nobody believes him. And he almost starts to seem annoying after a little while, but then it turns out he was right and somebody's coming out of the basement.

You've been that way with Miami Heat on our Celtics text thread all year. You've been very focused on it. All these dumb garbage losses, the heat were like 10 and 12, they were 13 and 14, they were never a threat to anyone but you. And now they're still lingering and we're going to go into how weird their season has been. We're talking about sports hate right now. We don't actually hate these people, but we sports hate certain teams, the Yankees, the Lakers, I sportate the heat. I just want them to go away and

I know they won't. This is the problem with the heat, is they don't go away. They are the equivalent of the Steelers, I would say. Nina fell, we're like, you, like the Steelers start out like three and seven, you're like,

this is the year that they fall apart. At the end of the year, somehow, they're like, whatever, nine and eight, and they have another, they still don't have a losing year somehow, they're like whatever, nine and eight, and they have another, they still don't have a losing season, and they're in the mix going into the last weekend, and

they might make the playoffs, and they're dating, they do, they're dangerous, nobody wants to play them in a playoffs. That's the Miami Heat. I've been yelling and screaming about this.

This is invasion of the body snatchers that I have been saying the whole year. Like, don't let these guys linger, and the problem has been, one of the problems has been, these teams have played them, they rest all their guys.

So we don't care, they're a middling team. So like they rest, nuggets, rest, yokech, and the box rest, yonness. And then the heat squeak out

these two, three point wins. And you look up and suddenly, we are, I said this in the North, throughout the other night, we are corigning. Corrining, or they two, seven, first round matchup, Celtics heat, and I am going to be terrified. Do you understand in the vanity of the television ego business, how hard it is to not be able to enjoy at all how right you actually were. We love nothing more than being right. No one in the media was more right about what these teams were than Bill Simmons and Mike

Sherr and no one in the media feels more wrong today about their right than Bill Simmons and Mike Sherr. You know what I think was the greatest thing about game 6, Dan? Was despite all of their hope and belief that my Amy was actually going to be the boogie man again. That all went away with Derek White's game winner. They all thought they were cruising and they smited the beast. And it's perfect that it went the way that it did. And it's perfect that it went the way that it did.