The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: What's Up, Doggy?
Episode Date: May 9, 2024Okay. Enough of that Knicks talk. We're a Miami show and always will be. Zaslow, Chris, and Roy discuss the Panthers game from last night with some more detail including Zaslow's anxiety and old takes..., Witty's worst take of all-time, and Juan Pierre banging the drum pregame. Then, Rohan Nadkarni spoke with Jimmy Butler over the weekend and wrote an article for GQ about the experience, and he discusses Jimmy's future in Miami, why the Heat should extend him, and what being a "needle mover" actually means. Plus, a deep-cut Thursday Thunder, Zaslow is a real person who actually exists, and does the movie Airplane hold up? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugatz Podcast.
I have denied and Stugatz and WFAT have denied Zaslow, Roy, and Chris Cody their rightful earned place to celebrate some 6-1 victory
over the Boston Bruins.
I will welcome in Rohan Natkarni, formerly of Sports Illustrated, who's now doing for
GQ Sports, the Jimmy Butler article from the weekend at the Miami Grand Prix with some
quotes about him loving Miami and wanting to stay in Miami. We will get to him in a second.
But go ahead, Chris and Zaslow and Roy,
the floor is yours after Juan Pierre
banged the drum last night.
JP.
And then your team blows out the Bruins
in what was a desperate important game
and looks more like the team you've seen all year
because they're annoying and gritty and everyone else.
We're just better than them.
Everyone else in hockey hates the Panthers because of how they play.
We're just better than them.
Last night was literally how the Panthers have played the entire season.
I didn't recognize that team from game one.
Our defense was terrible.
And even last night when we were down 1-0, and I'm a disaster during Panther playoff
games. I am. I'm on the verge of vomit the entire 60 minutes.
But even after the first period yesterday when we were down 1-0, I'm like,
We totally outplayed them. I feel totally fine. We're going to be fine.
And then we kick their ass.
Like, last night was so much closer to, I believe, what this series is going to look like.
I don't think it's a long series.
I think we're gonna win both games in Boston,
and we're gonna finish this thing out
in game five in Sunrise.
Madison Square Garden, how about Amon and Bank Arena?
Did you see last night?
Paul's popping.
Well, the best thing that Paul Maurice could have done
was change the lineups in the second period,
putting the lines in the blender,
because that lineup that he brought out there in game one.
Get back to what works, come on.
Bread and butter. Get back to what works. He tried to change it up the first game in this series yeah it didn't work he said that
and that lineup came out at the end of game five of the first round and it worked then it did not work for
four periods during this series and we still have Bennett and Lomborg in the holster then it's gonna be back one of these games
didn't you trade Barkov the last time
you were in the studio?
Yo, don't worry about that.
A year ago.
Yo, don't worry about that.
How's it end?
I repented, I was sitting in this seat a year ago,
I've been very honest and upfront about that.
Look, sports talk shows, they love being right.
Most of them like being right
at the expense of their team suffering
because they want to be right.
I'd rather be wrong, and I was dead wrong,
and my team ends up benefiting from it
I'm very sorry Sasha. I love you so much. I love Sergey Bobrovsky
I told him to get the hell out of my city and I also called Paul Maurice the murderer of fun
I've never had more fun in my life one year ago. You did that's right
Murder of fun put it on the pole. Please that leviton show is Paul Maurice the murderer murder of fun he's not though he's not everybody was wrong about that last season
I'm okay wrong I'm okay with being wrong can we put that in the bowl are you okay
with being wrong no one is not a strength for sports opening definitely
not I think witty's take on the Panthers was still worse though right oh look
with his empty stats get the hell out of here.
The man has a hundred point score every single season.
He said that was the worst trait in the history.
I love him so much.
You see like the camera was on him
and he's talking to the other bench there and Pasunov,
oh please coach, can I please fight,
can I fight Matthew Kachuk?
I already told you what Pasunov can do
if he wants to fight somebody.
Hubertou would never.
But Kachuk, oh my, and Kachuk doesn't fight. Why are you threatening to fight hockey players?
Like what's the winner? I'll fight him too. Because we're in the mix here. Yeah, we're in this thing.
Sounds like me and Cindy Crosby. Oh god, Roy. Don't bring Cindy Crosby. Chris came in very confident today.
In fact, so confident that when he said hi to Mad Dog. We don't have to do this. It was. Look I have so.
In fact, so confident that when he said hi to Mad Dog, it was incredible.
We don't have to do this.
Look, I have so much.
I have heard this.
The oddest to low in the history of a lows.
I have struggled with a lot of things,
if we're being honest.
But I've struggled to, the greeting of guests
before they go on air, I have not perfected yet.
Because you want to sound natural,
you want to sound relaxed.
So this was natural for you?
Well, I asked Video to get this for me
because of how awkward it seemed right before we went on the air
And I wish we had started this way. Let's listen to the host
Really just welcoming you into our home Chris Cody. What's up doggy? I
Don't know what I don't know where
Next time we have them on you just say doggy. That's a doggy
That's just hello. How you do my robot never?
Roy's got it. It's John Wayne. There's definitely some moseying going on as you approach doggy
What's up doggy? What's up doggy?
God, I cannot listen to that. I want I want you guys to imagine in an old West saloon,
Chris Russo is at the piano as Chris Cody walks in.
What's up, doggy?
Got a toothpick in his mouth.
He's wearing boots, there's sawdust on the floor.
Followed it up by asking for a whiskey.
What's up, doggy?
All right, we can stop.
It sounds like there should be like a little banjo playing. What's up, doggy? All right, we can stop. It sounds like there should be like a little banjo playing. What's up, doggy?
Juan Pierre last night bangs the drum, a 90s Marlin.
Look at the smile on Roy's face.
Gets the crowd fired up.
And he was great at it.
I've criticized others.
You know, Marino was terrible at it last season, but JP brought it. Juan Pierre is a guy that will make you smile every time you see him, right? I don criticized others. You know, Marino was terrible at it last season, but JP brought it.
Juan Pierre's the guy that will make you smile
every time you see him, right?
I don't smile.
Put it on the poll, please, Juju.
All my lips.
Does Juan Pierre make all your lips smile when he appears?
Can we just analyze for a second, I believe,
making this a little more macro for the audience.
Let's just say, hypothetically, that they're not paying attention to any Panthers hockey.
They're paying attention to hockey in general, and they know that over the last two years,
Boston was better last year as a one seed, and then in a seven game series, Florida beats
them as an eight seed.
Then they play five times this season and Boston wins every time And and then you get to a place where the first game is five one and the second game is six one and you're saying
Florida's just the better down. Okay. I understand that you're saying they have more more
And that you guys believe that they are that's correct over the regular season
They had and again, they had one more point than the Bruins and the Bruins beat them all five times. They played this year
so if I put overtime if I put any
Playoff series in front of you that you're not paying attention to and I say to you one of the games went five one this way
And the other one went six one this way and then the homers appeared and said the second game was the more representative one
The first one doesn't count at all it doesn't matter
The second game is truer you guys would dismiss that person saying you're ignorant. You haven't been watching this team all year
Yeah, but what I would say also is the Panthers were off for a week before that game won
The Panthers also played their worst offensive game that maybe I've seen this year
Probably the worst game of his career.
And, and so if I'm going to weigh the two games,
the way that we played last night was so much closer to what we've looked like
the entire season.
That game one is not at all what we've looked like the entire season. And matter of fact, you go to the entire first round series for Boston against Toronto, I
mean, they couldn't score against Toronto.
And all I'm hearing going into the game last night is how Swamen this, Swamen that, riding
a hot goalie, Brickwall ran his ass early in the third period.
All this talk about Swamen and the Panthers can't solve him and he hasn't given up more
than two goals in a game this postseason
Now oh we got a goalie situation in Boston now. We got a problem. I'm sorry the Panthers in control right now
You know what? I'm not sorry Panthers are in control right now. How do we feel about the FU Boston chance going in the arena?
I don't know. I felt a little mean to me. It's fine. I don't like it. It's fine crass
Yeah, I mean we're saying we weren't saying FU we were little mean to me. It's fine. I don't like it. It's fine. Crass. Yeah, I mean, we weren't saying F you,
we were saying the word, Dan.
And there's children there, I don't know, I didn't like it.
They were doing the same thing
in Madison Square Garden last night.
Yes, they were.
I didn't like that either.
There weren't any kids there though.
So you were just, you think it's too coarse
that we don't need?
I was just in it, I'm like, look, we're up six one,
like Zazz says, I think this is gonna be,
I don't think we're gonna struggle in this series too much.
It just felt a little beneath us.
So there was fighting going on on the ice.
You were upset about the words.
That's right.
Well, we're used to that though.
We're used to the fighting on the ice.
Did you apologize and take it back one second later?
Yeah, really stupid to apologize to that
because I wasn't sorry at all.
I'm not gonna apologize for that.
You're finding, you're very, you're amped up.
You're emotional, you're crazed.
It's my drugs.
These playoff games, Zander, I'm a drug, I'm a fiend for it.
The anxiety I feel during these games, I'm on drugs.
I want to be high all the time.
You're crazed and you came in here a great deal hotter in volume than you did the last
time that you were here that you are
It's clearly that playoff. It's clear that playoff hockey is sort of soaked into everything
A year ago. Yo, but I already told you
Enough bringing that up. I already told you I was wrong and i'm glad that I was wrong about it
I repented for that. I was wrong. Stop bringing up. It's not for ready
Let me see the jalen ramsey video last night because this is always a cool thing that happens
locally when all the sports teams start gathering around because they want to be near some of
the action that's heightened stakes. Let's see Jalen Ramsey last night at the Panther How you f***ing about? 5-1! F***ing monster!
Yeah!
I'm gonna go home and look. Everybody clean out. Clean out they sweepers. They need to go on home somewhere.
Those losers.
Get your ass home.
What is second place to coolest sound in sports than a prolonged goal horn at home?
Like what finishes in second place to a sound that will move you and will escalate however it is that you're already feeling about your team?
Crack of a bat for a home run.
Longhorn followed by Mamba number five.
Oh, what a night.
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Our Panther group chat, we're confident
against the lightning.
This is a different team.
You're a Panther group chat though.
No, I think, no, but dude, you're so wrong on that.
We've been terrified of this team
Forever and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers they want the lightning
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world. Rawr three. This is the Dunn Lebatar show with the StuGats.
Rohan, you've been very patient back there. Oh, yeah. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for writing the article in GQ Sports about Jimmy Butler. Welcome to the show. What is the synopsis for people who no longer read? Yeah, I drank some coffee with Jimmy Butler.
He was really enjoying himself.
How is the coffee?
I think it's great.
Shout out to his personal barista Rodney.
Rodney?
That guy's Whitman.
Rodney.
Talking about Rodney?
How many did you drink?
I had three coffees totaling six shots of espresso
before lunch.
I was sweating, truly sweating my ass off the entire time.
Jimmy Butler was like at eight cappuccinos though
before noon, which was truly absurd.
Yeah, he just drank a lot of coffee.
I got to follow him around, hang out with him at F1,
and then at the very end, just asked him a little bit
about his Basswell career. Just a little of coffee. I got to follow him around, hang out with him at F1, and then at the very end, just asked him a little bit
about his basketball career.
Just a little bit, though.
Just a little bit.
That was after he roasted you for being sweaty.
Yes, that's after the first thing he did when he saw me
was, why are you sweating like that?
Before even shaking my hand or anything,
he's like, why are you sweating like that?
And why were you?
Listen, I don't get chauffeured in golf carts
from my car to the paddock area.
I don't get the Jimmy Butler treatment.
You were roughing it like a journalist.
Exactly.
OK, that's not true because I actually
was walking through the paddock and I saw Jimmy Butler.
And I was like, oh, it's Jimmy Butler.
And then right next to him is Rohan.
And I was like, Ro, what's up?
And he gave me a hug and was like, hey, good to see you.
I got to go.
Big time, he didn't even introduce me to Jimmy.
Kept walking with Jimmy.
It was a little sweaty.
I have an image to maintain.
I just, I don't.
Had no time for me.
I don't wanna be sea mingling with the normal media folk.
With our show.
Yeah, exactly.
Rodney.
There it is.
He's got his personal barista.
Yes, Rodney's there working in the big-faced coffee truck
Which was on site in the VIP area of this f1 race. So Jimmy want there to hang out. Oh
God, can we go back to what's up doggy?
So he wants to stay in Miami
Towards the end of the day I I asked Jimmy, I said,
is the plan still to retire in a Miami Heat journey?
You know, I did a story with him before the season,
that's what he said.
I said, is that still the plan?
And he said, yes, for sure.
You know, no, is that, that's no equivocation, right?
That's not with equivocation, that's, yeah.
Unequivocally said said yes, for sure,
I wanna stay in Miami.
And then went on to say that he loves Miami,
he feels like the city's embraced him,
the team's embraced him, and that his motivation
is to bring a championship back to the city.
What's up, Rodney?
Anything else that you took from this
because you were spending the weekend with him
before Pat Riley says, if you're not playing,
how about you shut your mouth? Yes, I mean, I think what I took away, from this because you were spending the weekend with him before Pat Riley says, if you're not playing,
how about you shut your mouth?
Yes, I mean, I think what I took away,
in addition to the basketball stuff,
is how much he seems comfortable.
You see a lot of famous people milling around that paddock
at the F1 races, and they're all in their little bubbles
kind of moving from VIP area to VIP area
as quickly as possible, whereas Jimmy's like,
stopping with people,
they're asking about basketball,
they're asking about coffee,
he's stopping to take photos,
he's goofing around a lot.
I think he seems very comfortable in that environment.
Rodney.
And you think what of what happened with Pat Riley?
I don't imagine that that lands particularly well.
I'm sure it's not fun. I think what I make of it is that there's a lot of frustration.
I think there's a lot of frustration, obviously from the organization, about how the season ended
and just how the season went. You know, the Heat, we know to get too nerdy about it, but they're
like one of three or four teams all year that only had Two lineups that played over 100 minutes together. I think it was an incredibly frustrating season
For everyone involved and I think jimmy butler likely feels the same way, you know
He wanted to be out there in the first round. I know the comments he made made a stir but
You know what he said to me was we can't go out like that
You know
I don't think he enjoys losing to boston in five games and I don't imagine
Of all people pat reilly enjoys losing to Boston in five games and I don't imagine of all people Pat Riley
enjoys losing to Boston in the manner that they did so
What I make of it is just kind of a lingering frustration of how this whole year went
I do think it's kind of funny the way that a lot of media that isn't around the heat often has
Perceived what Riley said
Every not only does he do it every postseason, but he does it privately too.
He does it privately, he does it publicly, and particularly with Jimmy Butler. The thing that
Jimmy has said that he loves about the Miami Heat is that Spoh and Riley are as insane and competitive
as he is. This is nothing new from year to year. Remember when they had the big argument in 22 on the court and and Spolstra said to him
I knew you were a crazy mother-effer as they're being separated, you know. Exactly. Like unless you're super sensitive
You're you're gonna come back and you're gonna take it as a challenge
He told Goran Dragic that he sucked right after he traded for him. Like Jimmy loves
I think the parts that he didn't like about being in Minnesota was the rest of the team was soft. Like he was the only one who was crazy about it.
LeBron did not take it as a challenge.
LeBron left.
That's right.
He's a different guy than Jimmy.
That's right.
He was sensitive about it.
And Jimmy, I think appreciates,
I think he likes the confrontation.
I think he likes the uneasiness
that can be, that could surround this situation.
We've seen it.
Like I think he respects it.
I think he respects it.
I would argue that most athletes when they end up
in other environments are a bit surprised
about how brittle people are to correction,
to criticism, to confrontation.
Those three things I think I,
every time I talk to athletes about them
entering new workspaces, they think everyone's
soft because the language is aggressive and Ray Allen and others have said of the heat,
just don't be in your feelings.
Your feelings don't matter on anything.
You care deeply about playing basketball 20 years of your life and now Spoh says you get
six minutes tonight.
Don't get in your feelings about it.
He's got to make difficult decisions about who gets to play and who doesn't get to play the
thing that I will tell you though that you might be underestimating even if
that conference a confrontation is private is the combination of now we're
talking about money we're throwing what people are bargaining privately and
publicly about what he's worth in his old
age and he is a proud man and you've just escalated a furnace of conversation around
him and his money and told him to shut his mouth.
Saying that privately and saying that publicly are two different things just because the
circumstances have changed.
Now we're arguing and negotiating about money.
It's not I'm already under contract, I'm secure here and I know what my finances are
guaranteed. I'm telling you that that extra step, if you guys are telling me that Jimmy's
good with that, I'm telling you that people can get into their feelings when it's not
the huddle and now we're at the bank deposits.
But you think Jimmy's hurt? Because I'm kind of with Zazz though. I think he's garage on
this.
I'm just saying it can be received differently by a proud adult male once you're now making the business in public and
That business in public has some things that can be turned into
You know can turn into public
criticism and negotiating and
Disrespect if you are in your feelings, you know how people say all the time in sports, they say, it's not personal, it's not personal,
it's just business.
And all the time I see people get their feelings hurt
because two people have different definitions
of what personal feels like when there's money involved.
Listen, that's totally fair.
And obviously, look, I was with Jimmy
before these comments happened.
I can't personally imagine that-
Speak for him, Rohan.
Yes, I personally just can't imagine imagine speak for him Rohan yes I
personally just can't imagine that they would make him do a total 180 you know
I've seen some people speculate oh he's gonna demand a trade and things like
that I would be completely floored if something like that were to happen or as
a result of this I also personally think that look it's like you guys have
mentioned it's not the first time Pat Riley has used that end of year press conference to send a message to his players in a very
public fashion and he kind of does it in a way when he knows they're going out the door.
I think that that's been, you could say, a hallmark of his career in some ways, challenging
people publicly. I do also think, I want to put this out there, I think the heat would
be, I think it would be crazy for them not to extend Jimmy Butler.
I think people have already very quickly forgotten
where this franchise was in the three or four years
before he got there, that in between period,
between LeBron and him leaving versus what happened
before Jimmy Butler got there.
I tried to ask Pat Riley about that.
I tried to ask him, I was like,
do you think you guys exceeded your expectations,
Jimmy Butler, I asked him this last August, and I don't think he's willing to go that far because
he has high expectations for Jimmy. He said that's what happens when you sign a star player, but
I would argue that no superstar quote unquote in the NBA has done more with less than Jimmy Butler
has in the last five years. And there's always conversation about do we extend him? When I look
at the rest of the East that has upgraded significantly in the last few years and there's always conversation about do we extend him? When I look at the rest of the East
that has upgraded significantly in the last few years
and it feels like the Heat have not done that for Jimmy
despite how far he's taken.
I think Jimmy and this Heat team has maxed out.
I think it's okay if the Heat move on from Jimmy Butler.
I'm good with that and I think Riley's good with that.
Do you?
Another reason why I'm skeptical of that
is Riley knows that this is a star-driven league and and I think he at the
At the at the end of the day knows what it was like when they didn't have a star
I mean he told Dan about what it was like when you know
Hassan Whiteside and Dion Waiters were the team leaders and you saw how if he thinks he's frustrated now
You can all remember how frustrated he was then
There are very few players in the NBA
that move the needle, very few.
Jimmy Butler's proven now in multiple playoffs
that he can be a guy who moves the needle.
And if you have that player, and Pat Riley's shown
in his history as an executive of a coach,
he does whatever he can to hold onto that player
for as long as possible.
Riley indeed called Jimmy Butler
the biggest needle mover on the team.
But I mean, to Rohan's point,
do you know who was there during that in-between period?
Rodney.
Can we get some information on where this needle is?
Give me the needle.
The needle that gets moved is where?
Which needle do you think of when they're-
It's like a meter, right?
It's a sound needle?
It's like the New York Times election meter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like a gas meter. It's like empty, full. It's not a needle? It's like the New York Times election meter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a gas meter.
It's like empty, full.
It's not a Richter scale.
Are we all imagining the same?
But are we all imagining the same needle?
Are all of us, visually, all of us?
It's a semicircle, and it's moving left to right.
So like, on the far left is like, there's
no fans coming to the game.
And then the needle moves, and it's like,
the fans are there, they're 30 minutes late
and they're leaving 10 minutes early.
It's more like the sound meter,
you know when you're like,
all right, let's go clap your hands.
That thing goes up regardless.
Yeah, it's not very accurate.
It does, but this thing that we're all imagining
that is the same instrument,
does it have a name for all of us?
Does it look the same?
Is it the same color?
This needle that you have Jimmy Butler moving, it's it when you say it's a gas tank is that we're all
imagining the same needle and I'm asking you again that particular need or will
imagining what does that actually measure I think it measures can this
team actually win a championship at the end no I mean the actual instrument
No, I mean the actual instrument. The actual instrument.
I mean, I like yours better, I think.
But for you, it's a championship needle.
It's can it get all the way over into the red
where the champion, it's gotten very close.
It's gotten very close, but it hasn't gotten there.
Correct. And it was nowhere close when Hassan Whiteside
was like the highest played player on the Heat.
That was, the needle was like defunct.
It was, you know, it needed to be revived.
That's where the Marlins needle is right now.
Right, but you want the needle to move a little bit more
all the way to full and Jimmy can't get there.
I think, but you could argue that he could get there
with the proper pieces around him,
I think would be my argument.
But wouldn't one of them have to be better than he is?
Is it the proper pieces,
or is it a proper piece brought in,
and hey, Donovan Mitchell,
you gotta be better than Jimmy,
or whoever the proper piece is,
we need you to be better than Jimmy,
because this decline is gonna have fewer free throws
and more three-point attempts,
because that's how players age,
and he's entering a dangerous age. I
agree the window is short okay we can all agree the window is short the
history is not kind to players over 35. Does that player need to be better than
Jimmy Butler? I'm not totally sure I think they need to they have to be the
perfect fit and that's not easy but you look at around the NBA right now like if
you gave Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo and it pains me to say this if you gave Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo, and it pains me to say this,
if you gave Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo,
Derek White, Drew Holliday, and Chris Staps-Risingis,
I think Eric Sposter could coach that team to 65 wins,
and they'd be a title favorite.
If you gave them Jaden McDaniels, Mike Conley,
and Carl Anthony Towns, I think you're looking at a team
that wins 65 games and can compete for a championship.
Those aren't your conventional stars.
I wouldn't say any of those guys individually are better than Jimmy Butler, but what they are are perfect
fits that amplify what your best players do. But if it's a small window, why extend them
when you don't have to? You've already extended him. You don't have to extend them. Listen,
you don't have to extend him. That's just how this works. Okay. We can to dance point,
we can say it's a business. That is just how this works. Okay. That's how this works. That's just how this works, okay? To Dan's point, we can say it's a business. That is just how this works, okay?
That's how this works.
That's why Kobe gets a sweetheart deal
at the end of his Lakers tenure.
That's why LeBron is gonna get a contract
until he's 42 years old.
That's why Kirk Cousins got $100 million.
That's why Kirk Cousins got $100 million.
He's a good quarterback, hold on.
Yeah.
You extend him.
Streetballer's a good basketball player.
You extend him because you know the alternative
is Hassan Whiteside.
I really would like to get to the point where our video elements work so well with our staff
that at some point while Rohan was talking, we panned slowly over to Jeremy and he's like
the coach no one can understand in water boy in the stands shirtless and rubbing his nipples
with his hands.
I love him.
I saw that look on your face.
Your face, I looked at your face and what I saw
was you shirtless pawing at your chest
because you were so happy with every syllable he uttered.
Yeah, I fell in love as that happened.
Both of you go sit in the penalty box.
I think I just became a Heat fan too.
Rowan, you're all of you in here.
Finally!
Finally!
Rowan!
Someone listen!
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Teammates can't shoot from three.
Now they're gonna see a different Jimmy.
Now he's just, just playing.
Nickelback in the locker room and
Stugats.
They'll play D and show threes
as they chase the Nats for the sixth seed.
These five words in his head,
scream are we winning games yet?
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Tony, what do we got today?
This is cooked up by the one and only Juju Gotti.
This is a deep cut Thursday Thunder.
Deep cut.
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We're not gonna have big stat lines here.
We're gonna go in Deep Cut.
Juju's been in the lab cooking up.
You mentioned Deep Cut.
You mentioned that he's been doing a lot.
I just gotta say it.
I just gotta say it.
Because you're gonna say it.
Reemphasize sports radio, WFAT.
Because I'm gonna say the names.
It cuts deep.
I'm gonna say the names.
You're gonna be like, who are those guys?
Juju, unlike against the spread.
Oh, Lord. Which is terrible because you guys just go off
the top of your head juju is pouring over numbers trying to find
inefficiencies and trying to give you a smart bet because he makes he feels very
bad when he loses people money so he's these legitimately trying all right
we're gonna start in the calves versus Celtics game tonight at 705 Luke cornet over
rebounds five and a half
What I?
Want to place the bet where it's Luke cornet over under times
He does the thing where he just jumps up from 15 feet away to try and distract the shooter
It looks like NBA 2k when you hit the wrong button. It's so stupid
Second leg get a hand in his face from 40 feet away
Vegas has him for 16 over under there on the jump the jumping yeah the jumps
Second leg over point five threes for Josh green
When he's one Three's for Josh Green
I don't know about I don't know about you guys I don't know if you are still thrilled by the way basketball is played these days
But watching Indiana and New York just sort of swing it and get wide open threes all game
No matter where the defense is it's just it's still confusing to me want to watch basketball played that way
It's still confusing to me when I watch basketball played that way
Last leg of the parlay over six point five points for Nikhil Alexander Walker
Over five and a half rebounds for Luke Cornett over point five threes for Josh Green over six point five points for Nikhil
Alexander Walker deep Deep cut. Deep cut, buddy.
Did you guys have any reaction to the news
that Max and Disney Plus and Hulu are merging
so that your future has something that again,
looks like cable in it as we move away from cable?
Did anyone have any thoughts there?
Because my only initial thought was a totally narcissistic one, which was we did everything
we did so that again on Max now we can be with Disney.
How did all of that get maneuvered around?
How did that get maneuvered around so that now I am at Disney
and we are Disney employee adjacent?
Do we get park vouchers now?
Yes!
Do we get to take those?
Yes!
I never got those, that'd be awesome.
Many years ago, many, many years ago,
this is a true story,
the people who invented Pardon the Interruption
came down to see what it is that a young hang hungry and ambitious to got and I were doing at the start of
a of the radio station and they were thinking about how to televise on Disney
what it is that we were doing and they spent about 40 minutes around our show
during which Stu gots and I were talking to Jim Brown about having tried to make an ex-girlfriend jealous by posing in Playgirl and they packed up
their stuff and left and said that they would not be televising what it is we do.
I'll take it one step further Eric Rydholm was one of those two people that
were in the room he fell asleep inside of 12 minutes I mean and I was offended I
have to be honest with you. Well he he was offended by you. And that's part of the true story, which is during that show,
in the hallway, as they packed up their stuff to leave, they stopped me and having seen Stugatz's
behavior, again, the most hustling, ambitious and hungry of Stugatz's, they said to me both of the people who were there. Oh my god
He's real
It's not that he's playing a character. That's a real thing
The only reason I bring this up is this has been the response to Zas low during our shows
When he talks the way that he talks and people wonder is he playing a character? No, he is not.
Nope.
Nope, that is who he is learning in this market
from people like Stugata and Bukshanbi on how to do this.
Just throw your maximum vulnerabilities in the air
and be who he is.
This is not false.
This is a real thing that is in front of us today.
And for some reason, he wants
to fight the Boston Bruins. It's asinine. He's an adult with kids who are close to grown
up and he wants to fight. He thinks it's smart to look into a camera and fight Boston Bruins.
If you're not from Boston, let's be honest. Who doesn't want to fight someone from Boston?
It's my favorite part of these games now. No one likes anyone from Boston.
My behavior during these playoff games in front of my kids,
it's the best part of this experience for me.
There are two different types of sports fans.
When you're a sports fan growing up and you take it serious,
and you're a sports fan as an adult with kids,
and you take it serious.
It's a completely different experience.
And that's why, you know, last postseason
and now hopefully this would as well,
have been so magical because it is a completely
brand new experience and I love,
I already told you it's my drugs,
my anxiety during these games.
I love-
But drugs you take with your kids.
Oh yes, I pump, I get in here, the game is this is and my kids come in the room last night go alright everybody
This is serious room right now. I announce it right before the road come take drugs with daddy kids come on
Yes, everybody put their phones down. This is a serious room. This is serious room
Teaching them. Yeah, yeah your kids are gonna remember this for the rest of their lives, by the way, because my strongest memories of my dad growing up
was reacting to the Bush push,
reacting to the Steve Bartman catch,
reacting to the time that USC scored,
I think it was a punt return kickoff,
return or whatever for a touchdown,
and threw a Christmas ornament at the TV.
I was 30 years old. It was one of the memories that you will always remember
as a kid.
All the traumatizing moments your dad screams at the TV.
The happiest I have ever seen my father was in 1986
in tighty whities, dancing around the living room
because that baseball went through the legs of Bill Buck. Oh, what a great time. in 1986, in Tidy Whities, dancing around the living room
because that baseball went through the legs of Bill Buckner.
Oh, what a great time.
I mean.
Oh.
It was joyous.
My father doesn't really do joy.
And again, he was sort of a bare skin rug of body hair
and Tidy Whities.
And he was dancing around in the living room
because the things that you pass down to your family,
Chris Cody is here and all of his dolphin allegiances
come down like an heirloom through his family
because his mom's crazier than his dad is about the dolphins
and his dad is one of the biggest homers
in the history of the media.
All true.
No lies told here.
What's more fun, to see your dad have joy over his favorite sports team winning,
or to see your dad have misery over his favorite sports team losing?
Because I, too, was at the 86 World Series with my dad.
He cracked open a bottle of champagne because at that time,
you could bring anything into a stadium.
You could bring anything anywhere.
You could smoke on an airplane.
OK?
What? You could. You didn't know could smoke on an airplane, okay? What?
You could.
You didn't know that?
No, no, no, I knew that, I knew that.
I'm saying you brought a bottle of champagne
into the stadium?
My dad did, yeah.
And he opened it to celebrate the Red Sox
finally winning the World Series.
And then the ball went through the legs.
I'll do you one better on-
It's all dad's fault.
You can smoke on an airplane.
Do you realize that at one point in America,
you'd get on an airplane
and somebody would be serving prime rib?
That was a thing back before peanuts and small seats.
Like back in Coach.
It would be, I don't know if it would be in Coach.
I can't say to have witnessed this.
I've just read the history of the airlines.
I've never seen prime rib being cut on an airplane.
I was watching an old Seinfeld episode
where Jerry was in first class and Elaine was in coach,
and Jerry was getting served like a chocolate sundae
in first class sitting next to a model.
And I was like, man, do people in first,
Dan, do you still get sundaes in first class?
I know you got beans on the way home from Vegas.
No, it really does depend the first class you're doing.
Like American Airlines first class and stuff all you're getting
That's better is that you get your your seats a little bit bigger and you get the people
The bathroom experience is slightly less horrible because ten people are using the bathroom as opposed to a hundred people
And still the hundred are coming in from the back and using it anyway
But get mad at that the longer the flights, I don't get mad at that
because I'm trying not to go anywhere in that bathroom.
Do they still have the curtain separating them?
They do have a curtain, yeah.
Yes, a curtain of classism, yes.
That's right, I like that.
It's highlighted so you can see through it.
You're like, I see Dan right there, look at him.
I see Dan flagging down the flight attendant like,
they're not supposed to be up here.
Yeah, he does that.
Is this vegan?
The longer the flight and the better the first class,
you can get some very good amenities.
But again, not prime rib.
And I wonder who in our audience doesn't
know that there was a time that you could smoke on airplanes.
Because I've been on a plane recently
where I saw the old ashtray,
and I'm like, this is an old-ass plane,
where the ashtray is on my arm rest.
And I'm like, good God,
this thing's been feeding cancer for 50 years right here.
So tempting.
As a kid, it was always a thing for me.
We would be able to knock on the cockpit door in flight.
They open up the door, you come,
you sit down with the pilot.
They're arrested for that
Yeah, give you a pen an eagle pen
I'm practically flying the plane
So you and Kareem Abdul Jabbar?
Hey, I don't remember a time when you can do that. I don't remember getting in there and getting in
Yeah, okay. Yeah, you walk in with your family, your dad says,
hey, can my son come in?
Yeah, you get the pin.
Yeah, pilot pin.
Of course.
When did they stop that?
I'm guessing 9-11.
Might have been 9-11.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, it might have been a long time before 9-11.
The world changed that day, Dan.
Thank you, certainly flight did.
Thank you, Stu Gatz, for all your sociological observations
there, historic and enduring.
Yes, that was giving you an answer, 9-11.
Yeah, the world changed that day.
Historic.
Airplane.
What a movie.
Great movie.
Excellent movie.
Great flick.
Does it hold up?
I watched it recently.
I mean, there's certainly jokes that I don't think
would be in a modern iteration, but you know.
Oh, for sure.
Some of it's still really funny.
1973 or something.
Of course.
But jokes per minute,
that movie holds the record, does it not?
It is, there are never, in the history of movies,
I don't believe, on average, we've done statistical numbers
on the Rambo movies, deaths and violence
and how historic they are in terms of bloody.
Airplane has to be more jokes per second
than any movie in the history of movies. When do you want smoking or non-smoking?
He says smoking in the tickets on fire
Don't call me surely
You guys are just like
Dan Forbes backs you up top 10 funniest funniest movies ever. Per laugh per minute. Airplane number
one.
Number one of all time.
Hangover number two.
I just, what is that?
I gotta think that most movies from the 1970s that are comedy, no way anyone in our audience
likes those anymore.
Get me Rex Cramer.