The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: WHY WOULD WE HAVE PENGUINS AT THE ZOO?

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Ron Magill is here to discuss the animal kingdom including empire penguins, anger over the Miami Seaquarium, monkeys in neighborhoods, and more. Then, we debate about sports debate television as the c...rew discusses the additions to Skip Bayless and Undisputed. Plus, Dan, Stu, and the Shipping Container discuss Luis Rubiales' defiance in the face of kissing Jenni Hermoso without her permission. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat's Podcast. Everyone's very excited around here to talk to Ron McGill. A whole bunch of people have a whole bunch of different questions to ask him It never gets old. I will remind you again This is the only charitable effort that we do around here consistently the Ron McGill endowment Send your money directly to the care of the animals lot to talk to Ron McGill about today But before we bring him in let's just do our horrifying climate fact of the day. Time seems to be falling and we're all wondering why.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Welcome, let's turn on the nearest and find out that we're gonna die. As many as 7,000 baby penguins have perished after a near total loss of sea ice in Antarctica. in Antarctica. According to the lead author of the study that discovered the tragedy of the Empire Penguins, quote, If they get a merse, the chicks will drown. If they get back onto the ice flow, they will freeze, because they don't have their waterproof feathers. It's very hard to think of these cute, fluffy chicks dying in large numbers. I was shocked.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Time. Time. Time. Time. Time. Ron, you have Empire penguins. And right now in Florida, in Miami, it's 98 degrees. And I think it's Emperor penguins.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Stan, Emperor, that empire. I'm sorry. It's fine. Yes, that is a fine. Yes. Thank you. But you have those at the zoo. Correct. We don't have penguins at the zoo. We have a zoo in freaking Florida. Why we have penguins at the zoo, Dan? We got to write it to the polar bear exhibit. Wow. Mistake category. You're killing it. The rare worst mistake after the initial mistake. state category you're killing it or the rare worst mistake after the initial mistake.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I've got it right here in my notes. Really? That there are penguins in the Miami Zoo? It must be true then if it's in your nose. Yeah there are. Oh maybe those are the elusive empire of penguins, maybe it's those. Ron, you talked last week, you were on with us about the tragedy of Lolita at the Miami Sequarium. And I know my wife and some others are going out there to protest this weekend because it's not like the atrocities there are over. What can you speak to? Because I know these carnival amusements where they lock animals in cruel spaces or something that's done all over the world,
Starting point is 00:03:13 but it feels pretty backward for us to be doing it here in Miami. Yeah, no, I agree. I don't work at the CICRAM. I'm not there, so I can't really comment first-hand what's going on there, but I've heard from other people and things are not well. I mean, there's a comment on Twitter, and I'm just hoping. I'm hoping this guy just got hacked, okay? The guy who's the CEO of the Dolphin Company, which now is managing CQRM.
Starting point is 00:03:42 This guy responded to a tweet, I'm going to read this verbatim because I cannot believe it. You guys need to find out if this guy was hacked. But I checked his account. It's still on there. He hasn't pulled it down. Some woman writes, she goes, and now let's see what happens to Little. Another two years before his released plan and random death, Little, for those of you who don't know, as the dolphin, that was the companion to Lolita. And this woman is obviously referring to the point that they've been planning to move Lolita for years and nothing ever happened. And then the fact that random death, they were questioning the death of this whale.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And this guy in Wardo Albor responds, he's a CEO of the Dalton Company. He responds to that woman, he goes, come on, woman, two years, at least another 52 years, with three smiley face emojis afterwards. And then he writes, still is less than the time we'll take for you to use your brain for the first time. Still brand new, with a laughing smiley face with tears. And then he goes losers and he spells it L-O-O-S-E-R-S. I am really, that guy is great. That guy is amazing. That guy is amazing. That guy is amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Well, I'm hoping that this really isn't this guy, because if that's the case, what is happening at the C-Corium is gotta be borderline criminal. But it's off this freaking Twitter feed. I mean, I put up pulling right up, I'm being okay. That's the guy responds to someone who's passionate
Starting point is 00:05:02 about what's happening to those animals there. Really guys? It's a crap. I mean, speaking of criminal, could there be possible penalties for how the C-cronings handling these animals? Listen, I don't know. Again, I can't comment because I'm not there firsthand. What I do know is what I read on this guy's Twitter feed who's the CEO. Again, I'm hoping that he was hacked. Okay, but it hasn't been pulled down yet.
Starting point is 00:05:25 If I got hacked and somebody said something like that, putting words in my mouth, man, I make sure that thing got pulled up might be as quickly as possible. It's still there. And you're sure it's a verified account, and it's not someone impersonating, be a hell of a parody account for somebody to be this character cruel to animals, and then just laughing at protesters and people like it would be, it would be an
Starting point is 00:05:45 amazing character to pull off guy who is just trolling by being mean to the animals and then mean to customers who would support the animal. You know guys, I don't know because again, I think the internet is one of these horrible double-edged swords. You don't know what to believe anymore on the internet, but that comment has got me so enraged, so fume. And I'm just praying, it really wasn't this guy, because if it doesn't, I'm so really worried
Starting point is 00:06:10 about everything that's happening over there. If somebody can be as insensitive as that. And even if it's not this guy, whoever the jerk is, who did it, that's, I hope they've tracked him down. I hope they find this person. Ron, what can you tell us about wild monkey sightings in Florida? I think there was one in Orange City, there's been a couple of more. What can you tell us about it? Listen, there are primates throughout the state of Florida. There's a whole range of them
Starting point is 00:06:31 up by Silver Springs and Silver Springs River. They've been there a population for years. There's a population here. I think in Fort Lawton, else I'm placed some of the vervets there out there. And then you have these isolated instances where people who've had monkeys ask, quote unquote, pets realize they're not very good pets. They escape and they're thriving through the woods. And you know, again, you get out and escape yourself, Florida. It's not like escaping a Michigan in December. Here you're out in Club Med and these things are thriving.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But I don't think I think I'm shocked to hear in Florida anymore. But yes, we have monkeys that are out. There's several reproducing populations. And then we have the isolated escapees that soon as somebody gets some video and it gets on the internet and it goes viral that everybody's worried about monkeys. You see that?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Well, let's show that viral video of that monkey being a little bit crazed as a monkey might be capable of doing inside of a house. I guess it's a pet monkey. I'm going to assume, I don't think it's a monkey that just sort of made its way into the home. So they are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah, that looks like a little, oh, it's a verve, yeah, it's a verve monkey from Africa. And those are little heavans in Africa. They will go into your vehicle, they'll steal all your stuff, they'll put it all over your room, they're nasty, they'll, oh God, look at them. Oh my they're nasty. Oh, God. There you go. There you go. Biting a human arm, a craze, jumped in the jumped in the bath. That is a crazy animal. What is happening there? What happened to your life? He's got that sound. Yeah. Rubbing off. Can I make a sound? That was mad, damn, that was me. I'm struggling the segments
Starting point is 00:08:06 Let's go ahead and isolate that Yeah, it was sort of it was a sort of a half half snort I felt it what this monkey still running around. What is this thing? Like what what is this thing doing and if that gets into your house, that's dangerous It can't very well be dangerous absolutely only thing worse than a monkey bite as a human bite wow hey ron can't be true there's worse things i'm gonna say i'm gonna take shark bite yeah i can't be true i'm not talking about the wrong risk of using an arm or death i'm talking about the risk of infection infection snake
Starting point is 00:08:42 run at the bright zoo in Tennessee there was a female giraffe just born who was thought to be the only solid colored reticulated giraffe in the entire world. Is there any significance to that birth? Now that's that's a genetic mutation is what it is and I do believe it's the first time I've ever seen that in my life. This is not an albino, it's not a melanistic animal, it's an animal for some reason where just the tan coloration bled out over all the white and it's this solid tan giraffe. So I've never seen one like that, but it's just a genetic mutation, you know, it's kind of like you have someone who might have a llama run. It is. It lot of it. It's a giraffe. It's a giraffe.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It's a giraffe. Don't even go about with the butter knife under his belly, okay? Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, without spots, bears children, are they likely to be to look like her? In other words, do we have a hold subspecies of giraffe on the horizon? Let me tell you something, is that a subspecies? Because the genetic mutation does not designate a species. But I wouldn't be surprised if somebody said, oh my god, I want to have that giraffe and they start breeding it for this anomaly because it becomes more valuable that way, it's because it's rare and more people are going to want to come and see it. And then they'll just breed it into the inbreeding coefficient where they start getting like four or five-legged giraffes and you know cross-eyed giraffes.
Starting point is 00:10:10 This is a bad thing that people do you know they get a certain physical trait that occurs in animal. Yes, if that animal has an offspring it's certainly going to carry the gene for that mutation not that it's offspring is going to carry that mutation but then they'll breed it back to its brother or its sister so so you have a better chance of getting the offspring looking like that, which is going to be the cash cow. It's what they did with white tigers for many years. Even in zoos, they started breeding brothers to sisters,
Starting point is 00:10:35 mothers to sons, just to make sure they got white tiger babies. No matter what the damage was that was done through the inbreeding problem that occurred, and that's why white tigers in this country are so screwed up. We've got a situation here where I feel some of us based on the mistake category. No one more than me are playing a little bit scared. Chris Cody just whispered in my ear that he heard Ron McGill say, Inc. that in the butt. And I think he said, nip that in the butt. But I'm not sure what you said. You're rattled, man. Chris Cody didn't want to do ink that in the butt. He is hiding now behind
Starting point is 00:11:12 his hand unsuccessfully. Did you indeed say that you wanted to ink that in the butt? You know, I may have, like, they like the guy say, I'm flustered right now. I'm a little, I'm a little amped up right now. So I could have spanked that in the butt, sure. Makes it permanent. What is that noise? That you did? Yeah, that is good. Oh my God, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Oh geez, that's fine. That's good. That sounds like our bedding zoo corral area. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. It sounds like our... I'm pretty big when she gets upset. Oh, good, it's gracious. It sounds like a good life, but that sounds like a good out, guys.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah, that is good. Oh, by the way, Cody, I take offense to you thinking that Lava Richie was small see. Well, I'm sorry, man. Okay, I know you love. This is a new one on improved and levatar show with the stugas gamble on by draftkins. and on improved on levatar show with the stugats gamble on by draft keens down levatar
Starting point is 00:12:28 it's the classic first ballad hall of famer the musical fart okay where it can be a creaking door right it can be an orchestra tuning up before concert and the bassoon is a little bit off key and it comes out Like that stoo-gots the musical part It's a beauty
Starting point is 00:12:53 It is a beauty me This is the down-lebuttar show with this two-gots with Estugats. You've heard me here, Stugats, for a few years now, talking about how it's going to be really fascinating to see how some of your favorite sports media members age as the entire landscape shifts. It becomes a meritocracy. Now the athletes are coming for the podcasts. And so how are the media members that you're used to? Whoever they are, skip Bayless at 70.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Stephen A. Smith at 56. Colin Cowherd 60. Jim Rom in his 60s. Me last segment. What's it going to sound like last year when these people age poorly? That's how it's going to sound. But Skip Bayless at 70 now is trying to keep up in a very competitive game. I just found a broriously wonderful and funny. The thing that is now blossomed between Steven A. Smith
Starting point is 00:14:06 and Skip Bayless, where ESPN and Fox are trading Michael Irvin and Keeshawn Johnson, four Shannon Sharp, and now the argument shows are going to go against each other, and Skip's got to keep up with Steven A. Steve A.n. watch him closely because that dude's a conqueror, and he's already creating something outside of ESPN just in case some shit falls apart. He's talking a lot about I might be next and he's just building his own thing and it's gonna be fun and it's gonna be different. Skip tried to get in podcasts, it's not working.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Stephen A has gotten in, it is working. Stephen A that used to be Skip's show. Skip brought in Stephen A, gotten in, it is working. Stephen A, that used to be Skip Show. Skip brought in Stephen A, they are friends. Stephen A just took the guy that was made by Skip after Stephen A, Shannon Sharp just took it. And Skip Baylis's answer is I'm gonna pour tequila and rum and whiskey together. They're all good by themselves.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And let's see if we make a giant explosion. And yesterday they did, because Skip Bayless, either they made the mistake or had the genius of putting Richard Sherman, Michael Irvin, and Keeshawn Johnson in his studio for a show back after two months off, when there are anonymous quotes to God's coming out of Fox, that Skip Bayless was afraid of Nick Wright disembowling him,
Starting point is 00:15:28 didn't want a serious debate, didn't want somebody who would make him look bad or worse than he does as the face of Hader Critic, media member, for all time, I think. I think Skip Bayless is pioneered, that he is the greatest hater of this toxic age of judging the hell out of the athletes. Hey, LeBron, yes, second place all time.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You choker. He is the face of this and what he has decided to do and this part's fascinating to me. Every athlete, he's been killing in crushing for 20 years, sits next to him now and they want the mic and they want the ball Michael Irvin's in trouble Michael Irvin's competitive. That's three generations of the loudest loud mouth and football three of them Keishan Richard Sharman and Michael Irvin Holy shit skip they're gonna take your show and
Starting point is 00:16:21 That's not a terrible way to evolve at seventy if he's willing to be the joke if he's willing to not take himself seriously and just allow the floor to a bunch of people who are really good at television like my galerven say what you want he can be on any channel now and if on that work doesn't know if they want to put him on any channel because they're all sorts of dangers involved. But no one on television has the resume of just a pock-aliptic scandal away from football. Like just stuff being famous for bringing in a golden age of Jerry Jones, 90s football Cowboys are scary. They're in your face.
Starting point is 00:16:56 He comes from the University of Miami. He's been great at television always and he keeps getting chances that you wouldn't normally get if you weren't great at television. And yesterday he stole that show. Just stole it. Getting up from his chair, yelling at Richard Sherman, and that's what he is now skip bailiffs is going against. And it's to have three shenan sharps there is hard to got. Now that was just one day. That's not how they're going to do it. I was just one day. I think Rachel Nichols is also in the mix as well. We discussed that yesterday, but you think skip ball is going to be
Starting point is 00:17:24 okay with this? Like you think this is the heel turn for Skip, but you end up in the mirror. I don't know. I don't think he knows what he just welcomed. I don't think that he understands. He told Kishon Johnson yesterday, you talked too much and Kishon said to him,
Starting point is 00:17:36 you didn't just say that to me. That's the first show. Kishons of the three that they're putting up there, I would rather have on my side as television personalities Richard Sherman and Michael Irvin and Michael Irvin is a television personality in sports for all time Like whether you like him or not. He steals shows
Starting point is 00:18:00 He's willing to make a fool of himself and be really loud at a time that the greatest currency is, can you get attention? Millions of views yesterday for a show that nobody's watching in real time, they're watching it in clips. I mean, some people are watching in real time, but to get millions of views is how Skips stays in the game. He's got Lil Wayne doing the intro song to what it is that they're doing on Undisputed. He took no mercy. I thought that was Stephen A's podcast, no mercy. Did Stephen A change the name of his podcast?
Starting point is 00:18:31 Cause Lil Wayne is, why is there no mercy around the sports commentary? What are we doing? No mercy, Dad, come on. The classic no no situation, you know what I mean? The N O versus the K N O W. That's what Stephen A has, the KNOW mercy. Little Wayne is no mercy, NO.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Say, it's like 2-2-2. We don't need to get into this. What are you guys thinking about all of this? Well, I'm thinking Skip Balus is not happy with the first show. He might be happy with the views, but I think Skip plans on going out being Skip. I don't think he wants to share the microphone that much with anyone. Now he's doing it with three guys who are very, very good at this, but I don't think Skip wants to be made
Starting point is 00:19:14 fun of. I think Skip still has plenty of hot takes to give. I think Skip wants to be the guy that dominates that show and will be the guy that dominates that show. Otherwise, he will get one of them fired. I believe that. Obserius, it's Skip's show. I mean, he's the greatest ever at it. Emmett, Steve and I. I wonder what the show meeting was like, off air after the first show because...
Starting point is 00:19:36 I'm certain he can play. He, of course he did. And Four is one too many, right? Like, why do they need Kishon Johnson? Like, Four is too many. That's the first thing I would say if I were Skip. And the second thing is, Michael, I want you to be you. I love the bomb bass. Keep standing up out of your chair. Do whatever you have to do, but I need to be more a part of this show. I just have to be, you know, I don't need
Starting point is 00:20:01 to dominate, but I don't want to be a moderator, a moderator who barely speaks on my own show. So I think the second show is going to be the one that's interesting and it's going to say a lot. It's going to be all skit. Well, that's a skit debating skit, right? That is tonight. But let me ask you the, let me ask you the, the real question, because these people are very competitive. Stu got's and it's hard to keep a hop. It really is. For Skip Bayless to still be doing it at 70, you almost have to be the hater who knows how to get attention because that's the lane that he chose. And it's still relevant in that lane.
Starting point is 00:20:33 As his own executives are being quoted anonymously saying, Skip is no longer in charge here. Stephen A. is Skip's daddy was the quote. The quotes coming from his own building are the word disembowel if he were to compete with Nick Wright in real arguments. Not the performative wrestling stuff that this is.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Skip bail us for better or worse, represents, to God's, the face that athletes think of. When it's, there's the media, they're not on my side, they're haters, they're not here to celebrate anything over the last 20 years. They're here to figure out how They're haters. They're not here to celebrate anything over the last 20 years They're here to figure out how to blame me so they can make a dollar debating it He's the face of that. I know he is and he takes a great amount of pride I believe in being that face and I don't think he's just gonna let that go
Starting point is 00:21:17 Like do you think he's gonna let that go at? I don't think he knows what he's welcomed here is that it's not like he knows But he just ran off Shannon Sharp's. Who got that? That was a partnership that could have kept working and Shannon Sharp didn't like the treatment. Yeah, but Skip is a smart guy, Dan. Like he knows putting three people in there.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He's gonna talk less. I don't think he expected what he experienced yesterday, but he knows he's gonna talk less. Naturally, he's putting three guys in there, three guys with big opinions. You guys sound silly. You think Skip has lost a step? I don't.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Let me tell you what he said today. Traylant's ceiling is higher than Dac. This was a steal of a deal for Jerry and I applauded. That's one take. Then also, Skip remains very high on Baker Mayfield. Whoa! That's a great take. That's a fool's take.
Starting point is 00:22:03 How do you think this is going to end for you? The question I guess I'm posing before all of you is the victory is attention, correct? That's now the measurement. The measurement is can you figure out at the trough where everyone's competing. Paul George's got a great podcast. Cameron's got a great podcast. Everybody is competing for this space. How do you get attention? Do you realize that when you're getting millions of views
Starting point is 00:22:32 on social media, you are 10 times the numbers that these shows do on television, on linear television, these shows do 300,000, 400,000 people. When Michael Irving stands up in the argument in August is about how to catch a football. They made like minutes and minutes of television with Richard Sherman and Michael Irving just yelling at each other on the extremes
Starting point is 00:22:55 of the proper way to catch a football. That was the clip that, that's where you taped the episode. You know because it's the clip that went viral to got millions of people saw skip Bayless like Homer Simpson it retreating into the bushes on his own show because Michael Irving is standing up using the whole space to yell at the camera, but he can't debate that skip even skip can not debate the proper way to catch a football.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I mean, that's why you have Michael Irving. My point is when two guys can get that passionate arguing for six minutes about something, it's not skip baylaces. Place anymore. It's not bumped down. Oh my Satan. Now we're not just debating sports. We're debating debate about sports. Oh I don't know what's going on with you, but I like it. It's a family trouble. Do you find anything interesting about yesterdays? These are the industry standards,
Starting point is 00:23:53 skip bailiffs, and Stephen A. Smith speak for a generation of media types. It's all the circus. I don't really have strong thoughts on it. I think it's funny. If you have an entertaining clip on mute, which is how I experience that, with Michael Irvin talking about hand catches
Starting point is 00:24:11 versus body catches, I didn't even have to listen with a sound on it. I was on an airplane, and I found it entertaining. And that's what daytime television is all about. It's about getting metrics on social media now that they can sell against. It's about being in the conversation. I think they made a good hire in terms of getting that kind of attention. But I also know Skip doesn't like being boxed out. And I kind
Starting point is 00:24:34 of agree with Greg that probably don't need Keeshawn Johnson. Was Skip Bayless not aware of Michael Irvin's personality of what he was signing up to put on his air. Michael Irvin is going to be Michael Irvin. Michael Irvin has to allow bailess to have more of a bailess' show, right? I mean, seriously, it needs to ask Michael for permission to talk more. I mean, that's what has to happen right now. This is inu, and on improvement, Dan Lebert has show with his two guts, gamble on by Braff King's Don levatar
Starting point is 00:25:08 Well, my point about Jimbo Fisher is that and it's Sabin, he's been trying to cancel me for saying that Mrs. Met has cake and Bobby Baldwin would have said Mrs. Met, she is snatched Stugats Damn, I never pay for a player Now, I would pay for Mrs. Met to give me a lap dance
Starting point is 00:25:24 This is the Don levbatar Show with the Stugats. In an effort to age Stugats even more poorly, because I did wander away from Greg Cody and Ron McGill, paling around talking about Lionel Richie, arguing like really having jocular talk where it felt like they were both dancing on the ceiling just talking again and again non-stop about how much they love Lionel Richie it reminded me of the quote I mentioned yesterday from Vic Pangeo that I did not
Starting point is 00:25:57 I'm waiting for you. Thanks. I did not actually quote him because the defensive coordinator who is here to make the dolphin special at defense because he knows more than anyone else and is a genius and he takes great defense with him. He says quote, I like Earthwind and fire. Harold Melvin and the blue notes, the music, I shouldn't say music. The noise that they usually play in the team meetings is not music. It's noise. That's great. Get off my lawn.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That is the show that you want to do. You want to do the show that talks to Vic Fangio on your podcast about Lionel Richie. That's right. Not about the Dolphins defense. Just about Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes. And that era, that's correct. Why don't you get it done, I mean. I, you know what, I would love, that, that actually be a good podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Have on people who are famous in their field and have them on to talk about nothing about what they're famous for, just about music. But you know, look, Ramagell is a huge Lionel Richie fan. I knew that going in. I just happen to prefer Earth Wind and Fire. Lionel Richie's very schmaltzy. Talks too much. Old timey. Oh wow. Yeah. Wow. You just talk too much. He's Sean Johnson today. I was gonna say it's exactly how he talked. You did. So you're like Lionel Singh. I came here to hear you sing, not, not play around with the crowd. He's too schmaltzy. He's telling cringy jokes about,
Starting point is 00:27:25 hey, fellows, I'm warming up the ladies for ya. You know, you, you know, it's just, I don't even want to repeat the kind of thing he's saying. He just did. It's cringy. And I'm at my age thinking it's cringy. Speaking of cringy. My hero, Philip Bailey, of Earth Wind and Fire,
Starting point is 00:27:42 does not, he sings, he performs. He doesn't tell uh, cringey jokes. He's a hero because you played golf with him in Tahoe. And he's saying on my podcast, uh-huh. Oh, dee-hoon! That kind of thing. Um.
Starting point is 00:27:54 An original Tahoe, whatever that means. Um. But anyway, what were you saying? Get back to your show. Speaking of cringey, thank you. Yeah. Speaking of cringey, thank you. Yeah. Speaking of cringy. The Spanish soccer story, I don't mean to laugh,
Starting point is 00:28:10 but we have reached an age of such total shamelessness from people who you'd want accountability from, that the move in politics and sports is now to just lean into someone's telling you to resign. I'm not only not going to resign. Bleep all of you. I'm just going to be maximum shameless resignation. Resignation means I have to have a degree of shame about what I've done. No. You should be ashamed about making me feel ashamed. So Luis Ruyales, have you seen this video? Still gots. Have you seen the audio?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Do you know the controversy we're talking about? I do. We discussed it a little bit yesterday, but that's the Trump effect, right? It seems to be all over politics and it's startling to see this, right? You will not cancel me because I kissed a woman on the lips against her will in front of people. Yeah. Cancel culture or the assumption, you can debate whether or not cancel culture is actually real or not. Some people ride that wave to great financial success here in the United States, but over
Starting point is 00:29:15 in Europe it is not necessarily a thing. And it is sorted as our own history is in our country with the fair pay, equality, stuff in women's soccer, and all those things like title nine, we are so much further ahead than Europe. Just look at Spanish television on Saturday night to understand how, no joke, that America in this regard is somehow less cavemen than what you would think of misogyny from Latin men. For example, I'm not trying to pat myself on the back way to go. America were better than Europe because that's a really low bar to clear, but Europe is incredibly disappointing.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And Luis Rubellas, who picked up one of his players by the legs and cradle to earn the arm, then at another point in celebration grabbed at his penis and celebrated a goal that way just completely on professional all around kissed uh... her moso on the lips during a metal ceremony with the eyes of the world uh... on him he has uh... been unabashed about this and there there was a press conference, it was announced. And the assumption was he was going to resign at this press conference.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That's what all the assembled media was told that the Spanish F.A. had come to an agreement and he was to announce his resignation. We have audio here, it's going to be in Spanish. For those watching on video, there are subtitles to it. And we will give you the gist of it after it plays, que es que es en los jugados. Voy a ejercer a las acciones contra estas personas. Como me habéis enseñado a vosotros voy a seguir luchando, pero ¿creen ustedes que eso es para sufrir la cacería que estoy sufriendo?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Sinceramente lo creen, otra cosa es lo que uno tenga que hacer públicamente, pero ustedes cre para sufrir la cacería que estoy sufriendo? Sinceramente lo creen. Otra cosa es lo que uno tenga que destropublicamente, pero ustedes creen que es para esta cacería, para que vida en mi dimisión. Esta engrabe como para que yo me valla, habiendo hecho la mejor gestión de la historia del fútbol español. ¿Ustedes crees que tengo que admitir? Por la vida de decir algo.
Starting point is 00:31:40 No voy a admitir. No voy a admitir. No, voy to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. I am not going to admit it. He's standing ovation now. Because he said seven times I'm not going to resign. And what he's turned himself into here is the victim because he said he's not going to suffer the persecution.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He's reminding everyone. This is the greatest job ever done by anyone in the history of Spanish soccer. I'm the victim here. Do you think that I deserve this great suffering that I'm enduring? I'm defending myself. I'm going to fight and you saw that he was surrounded by applause. I can't believe that people were applausing that way. It was a weird kind of applausing. I was applauding.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Applauding. Excuse me. You're rubbing off on me. But anyway, what I was saying is I cannot believe that was the reaction because people were kind of like looking around like, should I applaud? Yes. Should I stand? It was like a half-standing ovation.
Starting point is 00:32:53 It wasn't a full-standing ovation. But Dan, having things started to turn on him, like people are turning against him. Some of the people in that room were applauding. No, no, no. This is the move if you don't want to resign make someone come and grab you you have to force someone to enforce the rules on that you are shameless here we're gonna show you that there are consequences for that here is the shame but if he's willing to endure what he's already
Starting point is 00:33:18 enduring and double downing on it and saying i'm a victim and saying i'm here to fight and defend myself he's making himself the opposite of what here to fight and defend myself, he's making himself the opposite of what he's enduring, quote unquote right now. He's making himself a freedom fighter. Yeah, and in line with his defense, he's actually argued that Hermosa put the moves on him that she was a person that tried to kiss him in terms of making himself the victim.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And his mother has come out and said, she is an active hunger strike. She has locked herself into a church because of how unfairly her son has been treated. And part of his open defiance there was him taking credit for the success that his women's players had on the field. I've done the best job.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Why would I resign? I'm the best possible manager of this federation. Yeah, how dare you ask me to resign after we just won a world cup, even though I sexually assaulted. But is there a space somewhere in here? Is there anywhere within here that he could not lose his job and simply apologize for invading like just apologize in a way? He's not a politician. Well, this all stemmed. He did apologize. He did apologize.
Starting point is 00:34:23 This all stemmed. The press conference for him to step down was people were very dissatisfied with his apology. He did put out an apology video where he was just trying to move on, make excuses, and not certainly as defined as that, but it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way to the point that the decision was allegedly made. He's stepped down. Now there's all sorts of punitive measures that FIFA is considering. Spain is like, yeah, go ahead and bring it. Kick us out of UEFA.
Starting point is 00:34:49 He has got a lot of support. What he's met with the rest of the world, and especially the eyes of the Americans, is how can this be allowed to happen? But you saw in that room with the sanding ovation. He is met with more support than opposition. Well, from everything I've read, there's been an uprising, an uproar in Spain about him and his behavior. And what matters to me much more than his diet tribe is the fact that the victim says, no, it was not a consensual kiss. And she's very offended and hurt and dare say traumatized by what happened. And the victim here is the Spanish women's team,
Starting point is 00:35:25 which wins a World Cup, overcomes so much dysfunction. I mean, even prior to the World Cup, half of the team signs a petition saying that the team is being run poorly, that they're put off by some of what's happening within the team. They overcome that, they win the World Cup anyway.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And now overshattering their their wonderful triumph is this asinine comment uh... or activity and behavior by this guy he should resign or be fired i i don't see an alternative yeah they don't they don't like their manager either if you saw videos of them celebrating the world cup the manager was dancing by himself he kept looking to be a hogged and embraced by some of the his players and they ignored him. And his staff was not retained. He was and his strongest ally, Luis Rubialas. Right. And and half of his team signed a petition, not, not specifically saying we want them out. They quit. You have, yes. You have male soccer players. The, the, the women's team's team have come out and said things like there's an active boycott.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You have players refusing to play for the national team. Unfortunately, I think the only thing that gets any real traction over there in Spain, because this is how things were working over there, presently in Europe, is once it starts affecting the men's programs and it could even trickle down to the club ranks. Then you might see movement on this right now, but you would have thought if he was planning to go out and the powers that be said, you're going to go out there and resign and he gave that kind of defiant press conference. And he's still to this day in power. It lets you know that he actually still has quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:37:01 But when you have players who are threatening to not play, players who just won the World Cup, okay, and they are threatening to quit and not play anymore. Don't you think ultimately the players went out? No, because they're women. Okay, it's not just the current Spanish women's players. It's 58, 58 former Spanish women's players have joined forces with the current team. Yes, but acknowledging that they did something wrong and he has a step down, signals a change in a way that men in power have to behave.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Exactly. And they will not give them that. Okay, well, they need to be influenced to do that or forced to do it. I just don't... Maybe by FIFA. I don't get why you just can't be genuinely really sorry. sorry.

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