The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Chrissy Two Chugs
Episode Date: April 2, 2024With Curb Your Enthusiasm coming to an end, we discuss Larry David's legacy as a comedy writer and actor and if there are any other examples of a person breaking away from their original show or band ...and having more success. Then, it's time to check in on The Club Region of our March Sadness Tournament and learn about Chrissy Two Chugs. Plus, the crew discusses a Brewster's Millions situation for Caitlin Clark before an all-out war breaks out of whether or not Michael Jordan is charismatic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. TurboTax Live. What are you talking about? Three episodes in I nary a laugh. You're out of your mind. Three episodes in I didn't think this has been
And I know what the show it's not like it's not like I go into it
I'm like our same jokes fresh with the same frustration
I like what they do they have an established brand the observational humor and whatnot Larry does his thing
I just didn't find it as funny. So I it's just stacked up on the Max app.
It has been an amazing season.
This has been one of my favorite seasons,
definitely since they restarted a few years ago.
I'll come back to it,
because I thought it was a slow start.
I did see a clip where they referenced
the bread man of the New York Rangers.
You didn't like vertical drop, horizontal tug?
That was funny.
That was so funny.
Don't know the reference.
So you don't even know that Bruce Springsteen shows up
at one point.
He does?
Oh, so maybe I gave up two episodes in.
Oh, man, you got me.
So the third episode is a vertical drop?
Old Jews and Bruce Springsteen?
Bruce Springsteen with the cameo of a lifetime.
Oh, no, I did see that.
That's where he's eavesdropping on the swing instructor.
Yeah.
That wasn't that funny.
No, come on, man.
It wasn't that funny. No, come on man. It wasn't that funny. I say all this to say that next episode is the last episode. I'm so sad.
I don't want it to end. I kind of, I'll be honest, you know how some many times, Greg,
these shows will happen and then they'll get canceled and the cast and the creators will say,
well, we didn't even get to have a farewell episode.
And now that a farewell episode is about to happen
for a curb, I kind of wish they'd just petered out
and just stopped doing them
because I'd rather that wondering,
you think there's gonna be another one?
Maybe he'll come back to it
rather than the finality of it's over.
What a crazy series that's been where,
like there's three years
between the night you know and then finally he comes back. I thought the
first episode was disappointing. That's probably the one Mike watched and just
gave up on it. I saw two and I will get back to the series. It was
always my plan to finish this right out. It's just I haven't actually heard a lot
of chatter around the office that man it, it's so good until now.
And it's been several weeks since I gave up.
I think it's been absolutely the best,
one of the best seasons ever.
And also there's the whole emotion
of the Richard Lewis thing.
Where he's alive when the series begins.
That's honestly the roughest part of it.
Like that sixth or seventh episode,
they're at a lunch and it he looks bad
The day the day he died was the day after an episode
Where he talked about being in their will they were talking about no, I'm gonna leave you in my will
Yeah, yeah, that was that was pretty
Chilling it was coincidence. But other than that, I mean Mike
They've been batting like a thousand on it.
I'm not a stubborn, I'm a, I think the sign of a man
and character is being willing to move off of positions.
You guys are telling me it's good, I'll come back.
People are speculating that they're gonna end it
the way Seinfeld ended it.
Yeah, that he goes to jail.
He's gonna get arrested or something.
He's going to trial and he's gonna lose.
Oh, they put that seed in there with the water
in the Georgia line. Yes, so like that seed in there with the water. Yes.
In the Georgia line.
It's been a continuing kind of trend
throughout the whole thing.
Yeah.
They check into the trial.
About six seasons?
No, not that much.
Like five seasons ago, they decided, we want a thread.
No, no.
It just runs throughout the season.
From the beginning.
From the beginning.
Because the restaurant.
The Palestinian chicken.
The Palestinian chicken was one.
The restaurant was season three. The Spite store. Yeah, the restaurant was season three right here
You have the spite store bite store. I love every when he was on the producers remember that was yeah every season
He has an overarching
Seinfeld reunion the Seinfeld which by the way gave us the episode of Seinfeld that we didn't know we needed but we
Absolutely wanted it was incredible
everything about this show is so unique
in the sense that, first of all, the obvious,
that a lot of it is improv.
They give them the outline of, hey, this scene,
you're gonna be upset about not getting invited
to something, but then within that, everyone's riffing, right?
The fact that some of the celebrities on there
play exaggerated versions of themselves,
like Ted Danson, like Wanda Sykes,
some of them play completely different characters,
like JB Smoove, like Vince Vaughn, right?
But then the thing that's really,
I sit back and I'm like, this is pretty incredible,
is that Larry David
was the co-creator of perhaps the greatest sitcom
of all time in Seinfeld.
It made him a ridiculous amount of money.
He appeared in many episodes,
and yet nobody knew who he was.
And then in 2000, he does a mockumentary for HBO. And dare I say it, this is the thing
that people know Larry David from now. Like that's his claim to fame. It's not co-creating
Seinfeld. It's curbing enthusiasm. And he's way more famous and successful as a result
of it than as a result of co-creating the greatest sitcom
of all time, Tony, I know you're a huge, huge Seinfeld fan.
Like, does that resonate with you in the same way
that it does for me?
Like, wow, like even though-
For sure, it's a titan of the industry.
I mean, when you talk about comedy writing
and you have in your belt, not only one of the greatest
sitcoms of all time, but then you go and do something
that's your baby with a lot of those inspirations from Seinfeld and move it over to your own thing and create your own legacy
Where now you have two different things that are basically similar, but two of the greatest comedy writings of all time
It's such a cool thing and like for me growing up watching Seinfeld on reruns and then buying like the DVDs where I would watch
Season by season you start noticing the thread of,
oh Larry's this character, oh he's all the voices
of Steinbrenner, of Castro, of whomever,
and it's like those kind of threads are great.
You go back in Seinfeld and you can see Larry's touch
through, like the character, like the soup Nazi.
Like in his,
But he's George.
Right.
George Cassanza.
No, no, but I'm saying the side characters,
like the guy that runs their golf club, George. George Casanzos. Yeah, George. No, no, but I'm saying the side characters. Yes.
Like the guy that runs their golf club.
Yes.
The guy who's mad at disgruntled.
Yes.
That's a good character.
I don't know, you can just see the touch.
Yeah, yeah.
For sure, I would say that when you watch Seinfeld,
when I watch Seinfeld now,
I see an exaggerated sitcom-y network TV version
of Kirby enthusiasm.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And that's why it was so perfect,
because now Max, like being a platform
for Kirby Enthusiasm, which was available
to kind of take what they wanted to do
and change it ever so slightly.
And it really is a reflection of like,
what the 90s looked like when you're commenting
on all these things, and then what, you know, the 2000s looked like. It're commenting on all these things and then what you know the 2000s looked like it really is the turn
of the century in terms of comedy it was also like you can make it now rated R
oh yeah you can curse it was very clean cut Seinfeld was like you could tell they
could push some boundaries but not a lot and master my domain right right
exactly you couldn't really say it like you were just right there on the edge
as opposed to him being a get ready with the bleep a floor
last episode of
In a in a cynical world. How do we think Jerry feels about about how successful?
I think you're all right. I know he's all right. I'm saying in a cynical world
Yeah, you can cry about financially. I'm talking about I don't know like how does it feel like Larry did another?
Yeah, it happened in an era where show runners
weren't really as recognized,
and Seinfeld got a lot of the credit for,
I mean, the show that bore his name.
And now, through time,
a lot of people that were Seinfeld fans became Curb fans,
and they realized, well, was Larry the genius
behind all of this?
So maybe he might feel some kind of way,
although that way might be very, very rich.
Let me ask you guys this, is there another example
of someone who was instrumental to something
massively successful and then went on to eclipse that?
I don't know about eclipse, the only thing I can think of
and it's not in the comedy world or in TV,
it's in music where you have like Dave Grohl
was the drummer for Nirvana and then went on to start Foo Fighters
as the front man yeah right so it's the same short hair no be careful what's
your argument there no the argument is just hugely successful no hugely
successful I'm not saying well and a lot of the band never surpassed her no no
but a lot of people would say curb didn't necessarily surpass what Seinfeld I will say gorillas
From him from in a blur goes front
Blurred track to blur. Yeah
Yeah, good the side project became
You got a golf mic for the woo and blur was massive
Phil Jackson Damon Auburn Yeah. Ooh! Pat Riley. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's a great one.
Phil Jackson, for sure.
Yeah, became bigger than Genesis.
And then all of a sudden was like,
I can do this without Michael.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Phil Collins.
Oh, I thought that's what we were talking about.
You said Phil Jackson.
Oh, my bad.
My bad.
Well, Phil Collins is another good example.
Yeah, because Phil Collins works.
I'm so sorry.
Justin Timberlake?
Yeah.
That's a good example, too.
What?
Not bad.
Bigger than?
No, at the peak of his career as a solo artist bigger than
Look at those units Michael Jackson Michael Jackson. Yeah
Yeah, good example Jackson five was huge, but I don't know and dude Justin Timberlake has done so much to undo
What he did with future sex love sounds so much. He's just getting torched
In fact, if you look at the songs that...
Are you saying that Justin Timberlake never had it as good as when he was part of NSYNC?
No, I'm saying Future Sex Love Sounds was peak JT for me.
But in terms of... Yeah, Justified was great too. But in terms of moving units, nothing
really touched that boy band craze.
I think you could say the same thing about Seinfeld.
I mean, a Kirby enthusiasm.
You remember, it's on premium cable.
But Justin's music is gonna rip now.
Like it's been a long time.
Well imagine what Larry does after this.
What Justin does is he works with Timbaland,
who as a producer was ahead of his time
when he really had a cook-in,
but now is a bit of a time
and he just continually works with Timbaland. In fact the success that
Justin Timberlake has had as a solo artist over the last decade is usually
when he's working with Max Martin. The great pop stars work with contemporary
producers that are constantly pushing the art form and he's not really
challenging himself in that way. He just wants to remain in a comfort zone
suffering because of it. Let me try to relate to Greg and rope him in here.
Greg, was the Jeffersons bigger than All in the Family?
Because that was a spin-off of All in the Family.
Yeah, I mean, it was the black All in the Family.
Yeah.
Right, and I think it was designed to be exactly that.
I think they're comparable.
I think All in the Family was probably
a little bit more popular
Just like I prefer curb your enthusiasm to Seinfeld, but in the met if I'm thinking in the macro
Seinfeld is always gonna be the top tier of
Television sitcoms where I don't think curb is necessarily on that top tier. I don't think it has the mass.. They're in different conversations. It's like talking about HBO Showtime,
all those streaming shows, and then there's sitcoms.
Roy reminded me over here off mic
that Family Matters was a spinoff from Perfect Strangers.
From Perfect Strangers.
Family Matters is bigger than Perfect Strangers, no?
Yeah, easily, I think.
So then it would be Harriet Winslow.
Yeah, Harriet Winslow was the...
Harriet Winslow is our Larry David, basically.
Yeah. Harriet Winslow. Yeah, Harriet Winslow was the... Harriet Winslow is our Larry David, basically. Yeah.
Yeah.
Harriet Winslow, do you guys know this?
She was an elevator operator.
At the Chicago Chronicle.
Yeah, in Perfect Strangers.
And I saw Jaleel White talk about this,
where he said the whole reason why was because,
I think, a different world had blown up,
and the network was like, we
need our black show. And so they just like, you know, come over here, give you your own
show. And that's, they literally had no rhyme or reason, no plan behind it. It was just
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Too many unnecessary conveniences now, cruise control.
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No button or steering wheel lever needed.
Power steering, there's another one. Why do I want to give my power to the car goes no button or steering wheel lever needed power steering there's
another one why do I want to give my power to the car the power that I once
had the car is a ton of metal I'm a damn college graduate still gots
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through the static and I'll crank the windows down so everybody can hear.
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And you know it.
The first matchup, It's Jessica's grandma
I mean, this is a this is a number one seed overrated Wow. I mean, I'm just saying it's strong number one
Jessica holy shit
I mean, holy crap. I mean it's just it's not overrated. That's tough
Give me the winner. Give me the winner.
She's going up against the winner.
She is going up against eight seed and it's Lucy.
I was getting bitches left and right.
I go Jessica's grandma there, I think, if I'm voting.
Luckily I'm not voting.
Luckily all the people are voting.
Lucy going right to the finals.
This is a championship team right here, that eight seed.
I don't know about that.
In our next matchup, we have four seed,
Misogynistic Bane.
I don't like Smutty either.
Women stay home in the kitchen where they belong.
I coulda used her this morning.
That's a good matchup right there,
and that is going against 12 seed.
I believe this is the mayor of New York City.
Mr. Mayor, we've come to the end
of what was a very eventful 2023, right?
So when you look at the totality of the year, if you had to describe it in the substitute in one word,
what would that word be and tell me why?
New York.
This is a place where every day you wake up,
you could experience everything from a plane crashing into our Trade Center,
to a person who's celebrating a new business that's open.
This is a very, very complicated city
and that's why this is the greatest city on the globe.
All that was in a club, huh?
All that was in a club.
Our next matchup, the three seed.
This is a strong candidate.
It is Stephen A. Smith talking about Jason Whitlock.
You fat piece of shit. You fat piece of shit.
You fat piece of shit.
Not very nice, but funny.
And that is going up.
What I think will win.
What we're about to play next, I think, is the winner of this bracket,
of this region.
It is Stone Cold Steve Austin getting into a cold plunge. God damn it!
Hey what's up everybody it's Steve coming to the Broke Skull Ranch.
I got this uhew Therapy.
Hey what's up everybody it's Steve coming to you from the Broken Skull Run. Hey what's up
everybody it's Steve coming to you from the Broken Skull Ranch. About to do my first cold
plunge and a Renew Therapy. My shop says 43 degrees right now so I'm sure the
water is sub 50. I was gonna start off at 50.
It's gonna be a little bit colder than that.
And we're going three minutes here.
Once it gets on to 12 and five, four, three, two,
down we go.
God damn.
Ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha. Ha ha son of a bitch
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That is strong for me the strong, but I don't think it's beating Stephen a alright that might you said it's gonna win the I just think I've seen that's a longer clip the isolated god damn it is funny to me
But hey, that's the people will decide not getting bitches left and right though the next the final matchup
We're not gonna listen to the whole sound we're gonna just highlight. Oh the two seed. It's dabble Sweeney talking about the collar I
Mean come on. It's classic. We're not gonna play the whole clip, but it's justabo Sweeney talking about the caller. I mean, come on, it's classic.
We're not gonna play the whole clip,
but it's just very dismissive.
And that's going against another powerhouse.
This is Charles Barkley trying to say
the name of the Panthers goalie.
And I'ma just tell y'all something.
Sergei for Bobcuff is the goalie for the Panthers.
And I'ma just tell y'all something.
Sergei for Bobcuff is the Sigoli for the Panthers.
That's why you gotta go Bob.
So go to our social media, vote for these second round matchups, and we will have the results later in the week.
Sounds like a pastry.
It reminds me of, from Yannis' rookie years, a sound that's gone viral a million times in the 10 plus years, but it's our guy Eric Reed yeah trying to
say you understand the kung-fu. That's one of the tougher ones I know I know he's a
marquee name now and it seems super disrespectful when it first burst
onto the scene it was I didn't really have a point of reference no absolutely
like no one's saying like shame on you Eric Reed. Eric Reed is a legend but it is
hilarious to hear him say I'm too kung-fu Like he's so far off. It's others. There's sergeable Bobka
sergeable Bobka
Another Bobka sergeable Bobka
Give me that y'all bag
As he runs up the street, oh god, I love that show so much
Mike we've got some condolences that we've got to hand out.
Yeah, well actually, first and foremost,
this happened a couple of days ago
and this show has a unique history with Fort Wayne,
Indiana back when we were on ESPN and doing a local hour.
We would take calls, feels like a very long time ago.
I don't even think we have the ability to take calls,
but it was a cool way to get the community outreach going. We had callers from Fort Wayne, Indiana. They
had this grassroots movement to get people, to get the show out to Fort Wayne, Indiana.
They even got the buy-in from one of the minor league baseball teams out there. And it became
this really big event that started with five people, the Fort Wayne Five. And it blew up
to close to a thousand people showed up to this minor five people, the Fort Wayne Five, and it blew up to close to a thousand
people showed up to this minor league baseball game
in Fort Wayne, Indiana, even though the entire show
couldn't be present, I was the only person that actually
was able to make it out there, and I was just totally
blown away by it, everybody was so nice.
The mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana came out there
and gave me some makeshift key to the city,
and stood for photo ops.
Was a very kind man.
His name was Tom Henry.
He, I was very sad to learn from people
in Fort Wayne, Indiana, knowing our show's history,
that he had passed away.
And that made me very sad because one of the greatest
things I've ever done as a pro in this business
was that Fort Wayne experience.
And it's still a huge bummer that I didn't get to share
in that experience with other members of the team
because it was a really great, great day,
a really positive day that I think will be remembered
for the beginning of the end of us on ESPN
because that's when Dan went on and on air,
ran totally taking advantage of the fact
that I was in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
But I do wanna pay my respects there.
And also yesterday, it was April Fool's Day
and we were having a discussion about
what a really unfortunate day April 1st is to pass away.
Not that it's ever a good day to pass away,
but you're always skeptical of the news cycle.
And I remember the news trickling in yesterday
and some people in group chats were skeptical.
Like, is this an April Fool's Day thing?
No, it was
legitimate very sadly Vonte Davis a former Miami Dolphin player Buffalo Bills
famous Illinois football player
And a productive football player had a nice little career as a pro. He was found dead
Down here, right? That was a that was a story, and that was very sad to hear. I know a lot of Dolphin fans held him in high regard,
and so we should also mention into these microphones
Rest In Peace, Fonte Davis.
I think people remember how he retired,
but he really was a good player.
He was very sneaky good for the Dolphins,
and then he went to the Colts.
At the best of his career, he was one of the best corners
in the league.
When he was down here in Miami,
he was really fun to watch and was locked down. It's really sad for those of us who nostalgically remember,
but just sad for his family in general,
and there's like iconic clips of him
from times he was on hard knocks,
and times he's talked about that early retirement
that he seemed like a really lovable guy.
It's really sad.
Yeah, you know, anytime anyone passes that soon,
that early, it's jarring.
We don't have cause of death yet, right?
Still unclear.
Wasn't he only 35?
Yeah, 35 years old.
He retired young, looking back.
He retired at halftime, I believe.
Yeah, famously.
Yeah, one of the things that's remembered about him,
also wanting to call his grandma after he got traded traded and I think this was his grandmother's home that he
was found in. He's Vernon Davis's brother, yeah? Yes. Yeah, he is. It was really sad. He
was, you know, he had a good fun personality to cover for local reporters
and so I was sad to see. So definitely a name that we talked about plenty on this
show, so I wanted to make sure
that we took time out.
I didn't want to be accused of not honoring Mayor Henry
because of all the fine work that the people in Fort Wayne
and all the fine work that he and his office did
to make us feel welcome there.
RIP, rest in power to all of them.
Let's switch gears here a little bit.
I've got something on my sheet that simply says
Chrissy Three Chugs. That needs to be updated my sheet that simply says Chrissy Three Chugs.
That needs to be updated.
Yeah, it's Chrissy Two Chugs now.
Way to go.
Chrissy Two Chugs.
Now I tell you, I have all these group chats
that are dedicated to specific sports,
and I really like it because it helps me
stay informed on these specific sports too.
I'm in one with you called Black Panthers.
Yeah, that one's, although we did just sign a player
whose last name was Black, and I thought about
putting it in there, it's been a pretty quiet chat.
But, so in the hockey chat, hockey.
How did you get in that one?
Black Panthers?
How did I get in?
Yeah.
I'm not here to take a quiz.
Well put.
The hockey chat is actually really buzzing.
It's one of the more active chats
because this NHL season, as Roy, you can attest.
And you would be in this group chat, Roy, but-
I have an Android.
Yeah.
That's all that's-
Green text not allowed in any of these.
It's also why you're not in Black Panthers, honestly.
But don't worry, I think the day is coming soon,
where the green text is getting eliminated.
So you'll be welcomed into all sorts of group chats.
Thank you, Mike.
Dying to get you in that, because I
think you would actually enjoy this hockey chat.
It's been a magical season.
Last night on the ice was a crazy night.
Hugely unpredictable.
It's like no one wants to win this president's trophy.
But as a part of this chat, anytime there's a big slate,
we, I do a DraftKings DFS game
that everyone in the group chat can partake in.
And there's a punishment if you finish last.
And Chris Cody is constantly finishing last.
I say constantly, I've stacked up a few L's in recent weeks.
I finished last just as much as the next guy.
He's lost three out of the last four competitions.
I've won some too, my Venmo's still up.
Yeah, you won one of the last four competitions.
Nope.
So in this group chat, if you send a double text,
it's a chug, or if you finish last in one of these DFS contests, that's a chug, if you send a double text, it's a chug, or if you finish last
in one of these DFS contests, that's a chug.
If you send a double text?
Yeah, something that a piece of media
has already been shared.
Oh yeah.
Like you haven't been following.
It's a chug.
Oh, call those chimneys.
So the penalties in this chat
is anything with ice in the name,
so you can emul beverages with ice.
Anything that is Canadian is a chug.
Black cherry Schweppes, that takes some explaining
that I don't have time to right now.
And milk.
Or a saucer of milk.
A saucer of milk.
Yeah, you also wanna have some non-alcoholic options
for people that are just trying to do their thing,
watching their weight, or just not drinkers.
I have a few of those in some group chats,
so yeah, you have to do a saucer of milk.
Like a little kitty cat.
So I did one this morning.
Because it's a panthers chat, so cats.
Do you have to lap it up? Yeah, do you have to? I tried to lick it, but it got on my beard, Saucer of milk like a little kitty cat so I did one this morning because it's a panthers chat cats
Yeah, I did I tried to lick it, but it got on my beard So then I just drank it like a bowl of cereal milk so now he's Chrissy two chugs
But after tonight's DFS competition shit. I'll be back to Chrissy
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You guys see this in the news is a guy
We got a really good show for you guys today did you guys see this the other day?
musical guest
what are you talking about?
see this in the news
a guy out in Texas
legally changes his name to
literally anybody else
and he's running for president
imagine that
he's got my vote
No, this is I hate shit like this
Because it's like the guy who ran with the platform, the rent is too damn high.
Yeah, with the weird beard.
Icon.
The mustache, it wasn't even a beard, right?
It was just big mustache.
There was a lot going on.
There was a lot in the face area.
He was also wearing gloves.
Brewster's Millions also had this, right?
Where none of the above was what his canvas,
none of the above. And they voted for him. And they voted above and they voted for him and they voted for him file Bruce's millions
banger yeah absolutely surprise me occasionally yeah I've seen it
tangentially yeah you've tangentially seen Brewster's millions I haven't
watched Brewster's millions I'm man enough to admit that what a classic
Greg I feel like you're 50-50 on these types of movies like have you seen
Brewster's Millions?
No, I thought it was a TV show.
No.
Greg, I'm right there with you.
I guess it's because Punky Brewster.
That's what we're thinking of.
I don't know what that is.
You don't know Punky Brewster?
You've seen it tangentially.
I don't know anything you guys are talking about right now.
It is dated.
Brewster's Millions is Richard Pryor and John Candy.
And the premise is they're both
Minor league baseball players like double-a they're terrible. They're not going anywhere in life and
Richard Pryor
discovers that he had a great uncle who was a
Incredibly rich and be white and so he left him his entire fortune in the will
But there's a catch.
You can either take.
Always is a catch.
You can either take $1 million right now,
sight unseen, just go home, live your life.
Or if you can spend $30 million in 30 days
and have zero assets to your name at the end of it,
you get $300 million.
Whoa.
So, and you can't tell anyone that this is the deal.
You're sworn a secrecy only like the lawyer knows.
So he has to go through 30 days spending all this money,
and his friends are telling him, what are you doing?
Like, John Candy's like, you're wasting money.
You're going to throw your money.
And the whole thing has to be a secret.
It's a really fun movie.
And I think, Tony, it holds up, right? Absolutely. it's a really fun movie and I think Tony it holds up
right like absolutely it's a great movie it's it's not too 1980s ish I don't
hate the premise it's a 20 CB and in ways but what do you want us to do here
I mean like but the the concept of it is something that you always hang out with
your boys and you're talking about what if yeah you had this amount of money you
could you spend it could you spend $30 million in 30 days?
Yeah, but the key is you can't have access.
What a recruiting class, pal.
My goodness.
That's it right there.
That's the perfect answer, actually, I think.
That's true.
OK.
I hate it.
Maybe it is 20 CB.
That's true.
NIL, yeah.
Everything, like even tennis.
I don't care.
Everything's winning.
Best golfer in the world.
That really took the win out of myself.
Well, the point was you couldn't have assets, right?
So you couldn't buy a $20 million house,
you couldn't buy cars, you couldn't buy any of these things.
Like he had to rent everything, he lived in a hotel.
He bought a stamp that was worth like $10 million,
but then he mailed it.
Yeah, yeah, right.
He actually used the stamp.
So it's, and the whole thing was.
Hilarity and Zeus.
The Mike Ryan Ruiz Fitness and Education Center.
Well, no, that's acid, isn't it?
No, no, that's right on.
No, no, no, you can't, there's a limited amount
you can donate to charity.
Like that part was in there.
Because the whole idea was you can't just say,
okay, here's all my money to, you know,
the St. Jude's or whatever, or the Human Fund, yeah.
And now I'm done.
Like, he had to be, and it had to be, you know, itemized.
Can I bet it?
I don't think gambling was-
It says he may donate 5% to charity
and lose 5% more by gambling.
There you go.
So a total of 10% was gambling and charity related.
Okay. The NIL is the loophole. That's where it is. Cause NIL isn't- It's a perfect loophole. So a total of 10% was gambling and charity related.
The NIL is the loophole. That's where it is.
It's a perfect loophole.
It's not charitable.
You think Kaelin Clark's going pro, do you?
How much do you think, if Iowa boosters were like,
ain't no way, we gotta keep this thing going one more year,
how much do you think they could offer her?
You know, the thought is that she's made up her mind,
and we didn't even find out what that Fox NIL proposal was
supposed to be.
It was just something that they were considering.
But there is a number.
There has got to be a number.
It's not like the pros door closes for Kailyn Clark.
Earlier, Greg tells me after we went off air
that you couldn't pay me enough to go to a Joey Fatone concert.
And I said, that's a lie. Dude enough to go to a Joey Fatone concert.
And I said, that's a lie.
Really?
Dude, they're doing covers like half the time.
It's not even that.
I said, Greg, you wouldn't, $500 you wouldn't go?
And at $500, he was already considering it.
Well, I mean, if my wife-
I can get you there with like a Bed Bath & Beyond coupon and a free drink.
An open tab.
Hey, there's some guy singing all the small things into a microphone and they have beer.
I'm there! Joey Fatone did all the small things? Yeah, that's what came singing all the small things into a microphone and they have beer I'm there Joey Fatone did all the small things
Yeah, that's what came up in the random die my own worst enemy all the small things and quit playing games in my with my heart
Sounds like my dream concert the random draws
All right, I've heard of the last song the other two now you heard of the Backstreet Boys song playing games
It's a great great tune. Yeah videos just
Factory Boy song, Quit Playing Games. It's a great tune.
Video is just oozing.
So how much do you think Caitlin Clark it would take
to just make her say, you know what, WNBA,
you're gonna have to wait?
There's gotta be a godfather offer out there.
How much is it?
In the big three?
Although, she's really, especially if she wins
a championship, she's accomplished literally everything.
Right, what if she loses? Like, do the Iowa Boosters come back and say, you can't leave without a chip.
Here's $10 million. Because the difference between the big three and this, Chris, is
that this is status quo. Big three would be like, this feels almost circus-like. This
is like, hey, this is where you're from, this is where everybody loves you, and we have
unfinished business.
So does $10 million get it done for Caitlin Clark?
Well, here's the thing.
You don't need NIL to get rich.
Caitlin Clark turns pro.
She's gonna get her little WNBA salary,
and then she's gonna get endorsements and advertisements.
She's already getting those.
Right.
But dare I say that Caitlin Clark is more famous
as a college basketball player than she is as a WNBA player.
You just have no frame of reference
for her being a WNBA player.
I don't think the Caitlin Clark phenomenon
dwindles with her going to the pros.
In fact, I think it's a great unique opportunity
because she's definitely moved the needle
with the women's game in the college ranks.
If she goes into the pro ranks
and Angel Reese follows her there,
she's going up against other top-notch stars
that all of a sudden get more of a rub,
get more of that spotlight.
It's great for everybody.
Sure, but the ratings would suggest
that women's college basketball
is the superior business product,
not basketball product.
You also have to keep in mind,
as we're workshopping back here, Jeremy,
that there's a TV rights contract
that partially gets split with the players
in ways that it can't with the college ranks.
Sure, but it gets split at a very, very unfavorable split.
But it's essentially up to whatever network
is broadcasting the WNBA going forward
and obviously some of the other sponsors,
like Shoe Contracts and things like that,
to continue to build these narratives
up around Caitlin Clark so that when you're tuning in
to whatever morning programming you're seeing,
Caitlin Clark versus Sabrina Inescu
or Caitlin Clark versus whatever other player.
There's also an aspect of it too,
if you want to consider the NIL, like absent a Godfather offer, a Brewster's Million scenario where some dude just shows
up, hey, love the Hawkeyes, I have all this money, here's $100 million. I think usually
just looking around like I'm not going to make all these Iowa fans pay my salary. The
system is still unjust. Right, completely. And to be able to go forward and advance her career,
like I think that number would just have to be
something ridiculous that would never actually
happen realistically.
Because her star is not going anywhere.
Like she has built this stardom to a point
where it is superseding anything else.
And WNBA ratings continue to rise every single year.
So while they might not be entirely on par
with what you're seeing in Women's March Madness, they're rising themselves. That league is going up and up and up and
up every year.
I'll tell you what, man. I don't see way too many Caitlin Clark State Farm ads. I'm like,
man, every five seconds. Every five seconds.
I mean, I understand how there's, it's pretty amazing that we're at Caitlin Clark fatigue
already, but there's a reason why. I know.
There has never been in certainly women's sports,
someone that has moved the needle quite this much outside of maybe Serena,
but it's not like tennis was doing bad ratings and then Serena came and
rescued the sport.
She elevated a sport that was sustainable with the WTA college women's college
basketball. People knew Pat Summit, people knew Gina Oriema, they knew two
programs and they largely ignored it. This is the driving narrative over an
entire sports day. The gambling companies are saying the most action that they got
on any game that happened across all the major leagues was Iowa LSU. That was a
moment in time last night. It was a game of the night, but
she doesn't seem to have much of a
personality.
But many top notch athletes,
Derek Jeter, Steph does
kind of, he plays with a personality,
and you can say the same thing
for Kaitlyn Clark, but there are plenty of
stiff pitchmen out there
that are athletes. Hell, Michael Jordan
wasn't the most charismatic dude.
What?
I know he hosted SNL.
Oh man, this guy.
Well, get a load of this guy.
I'm not here to take shot.
This is not a shot at Michael Jordan.
I don't think he was super charismatic.
I think he did just fine.
And look, the proof is in the pudding.
The most marketable athlete of all time.
But you can build up great campaigns
around someone that isn't effervescent.
Ladies and gentlemen, we've got the joker in the house.
Joker of the week, Mike Ryan.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
I'm sorry, what's the argument?
He's not Shaq with charisma, very few people are,
but this is not breaking news that Michael Jordan,
who was largely private, wasn't super charismatic. I'm confused what you're news that Michael Jordan who was largely private wasn't super charismatic
I'm confused what you're confused about by what Mike's saying. He said that Michael Jordan wasn't charismatic
Damn style of play is a mean being sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic like I'm not
Way pre space jam the number of ads he was in that were based on his personality
The number of ads that weren't based on his personality.
Be like Mike while he's just dribbling a basketball.
Most of the pitches that were around him, he didn't really have speaking roles.
In fact, the one time that they decided to turn to his personality, he had a weird Charlie Chaplin mustache.
Can I play? No.
Yeah, Charlie Chaplin.
Dude, that's led by his skill and his greatness though.
He's not getting those ads because of his personality.
Like I'm baffled by-
I'm baffled by you guys saying he doesn't have a personality.
Well, I feel a little bit better because people have come
to my defense and you were just so strong
and that no, he was charismatic.
I don't remember him that way.
I have to agree with Mike and I don't often, quite frankly.
I think you are a legendary sports writer.
It's a weird thing.
Where'd that come from? Michael Jordan was famous for going his entire career
being unquotable, not saying anything interesting.
But he was charismatic in saying nothing interesting.
His game was.
His game was.
He was absolutely charismatic.
The character of a man is being able to know
that when you can change things or when you're wrong,
come on, just admit it.
Admit what?
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