The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Complete Game Billy
Episode Date: June 20, 2023Marlins manager Skip Schumaker describes what it's like to take the ball away from his starting pitcher, the teammate he was most awed by during his time in the MLB and more. Plus, America loves a com...eback story, but is Craig Carton's rise in media a good thing for the industry. Also, Drake celebrates his back-to-back championship from his home league and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat Spatcast.
Chris Cody, I was not trying to embarrass you there.
One time when I referred many, many years ago to a manager as a coach,
I was immediately corrected by baseball people.
And I've also been corrected on referring to it as a locker room.
Baseball people don't refer to it as a locker room.
Hey, baseball.
Hey, baseball, they got lockers, okay?
It's a locker room.
It skips like you shut your mouth, it's not a locker room.
If you want to explain it to him,
I don't have to explain to him.
Maybe I've got outdated information. Yes, give just so you know, Chris one time got
to hit off Matt Lato's. So also head JV baseball coach, assistant head coach, varsity, third
base coach. I got all the signs, whatever you need. I'm here. What if he does? I know, I
know how to teach people to hit two front foot down. Let's go. Let's stay balanced. Get the
hands through the ball. Little hands get them in. You know, whatever. It's been a while.
But inside the baseball. Can you teach Jacob Stallings? I don't know. And then ending with runners on Jesus Louise.
Whoa.
He's a big fan, but he's got a lot of opinions also
as a fan of your baseball team.
Billy, this is as excited.
You're in the presence of royalty right here.
This is very exciting for you to be with a manager around here
who was 11 games over 500 for your favorite team.
Finally paying attention to your favorite team over the last couple of months this city
after watching the Panthers and the Heat drown out everything.
You know, Skip, this is what I've been thinking.
And tell me if you're aligned with me on this.
We don't want these fans now.
You know what I mean?
Stay away.
Go keep watching the Panthers and he can see what they're up to right now,
because they're not playing.
If you weren't here during that run watching the Marlins, we don't want you here.
I don't think he's going to say that.
Not the way to go.
I don't think I'm aligned.
Yeah, I don't think I'm aligned with that.
Billy just wants the easy parking.
I think Skim wants the many fans.
Yeah, Billy does enjoy having the ball for himself.
It is great to be in and out sometimes when I'm going to lie.
Stretch out, maybe put my feet up.
And it'll hurt me.
Yeah.
Yeah. What had you heard about the franchise before coming here
that might have given you some trepidation
in that regard?
You played here, it's never felt like a big league market
when the Cardinals came into town.
Maybe it did for a year or two,
but we played in Cavanaus empty parks for a while around here.
Yeah, you're right.
When we came into town, it did feel a lot like it was a, we
were a home field. You know, we had a lot of Cardinals fans that traveled and that were
in the stands. A lot of people from West Palm Beach because of the spring training area
and a lot of Cardinals fans there. So it did feel a lot like the home field advantage.
I will say now, maybe because the heat and the panthers
have ended their seasons.
Last night was pretty special.
There was a ton of Marlon fans there.
Luis Raya is getting a standing ovation
before his fit that bat.
It was his loudest.
And he peaked in.
Yeah, yeah.
It was allowed since I've been a manager,
even as a player, for Marlon fans
to be on the home
side or homeers type deal.
And so it was pretty special night last night.
Were people warning you though, like be careful with that franchise.
They've got a history of blank and blank and blank.
Or did you have any worries about this being a good first job for you?
Because a first job can become a last job very quickly if you don't do it with the right
support for management.
Yeah, I think the worry for me was not having guys around me that I
could trust. That was the only worry because you look at the rotation you're
pretty excited about that. You look at some superstars you already had on your
roster. You're pretty excited about that. The only worry I've ever had was am I
able to control or help the clubhouse not not the locker room, the clubhouse,
and be able to provide an environment
where people are having fun to come into the art every day.
The only way to do that is to have really good people,
like I said before, around me to provide that atmosphere.
Did you practice the walk out to the mound to get pictures?
Like before you did this your first game,
because you've perfected it, dude, your pace is perfect.
You have this just demeanor of, it's just, I want to play for,
I just, just the way you walk out there.
It's like, it's, it's, it's, what's the word?
How'm I going to find the phrase?
Hold on, wait, wait, just go on, keep talking.
It's, keep talking.
You were the only one talking.
We needed your, no, no, no, no, no.
We don't worry about it.
We got time, man.
Don't worry about it.
He's got the good santa, though.
He's santa's.
That's a good, that's a good word swagger
did he as he practiced for the right
center what
what are you looking for chris your slow down
just don't just look around the room asking us
to practice and becoming a great use i don't think that's right
practice what
christ just let him answer the question did you
what is the question no i have a good you practice it
i well i was admitted you walked out on part I was a bench coach for a few years Chris go send the penalty box
managers were tossed underspoken that's not a word what is you. You did it. Hey. I'm just stated.
That's what it was.
Yes, yes.
You did it.
But did you practice it?
Well, hang up and listen.
Yeah, I had practice.
When your wife was giving birth, did you practice walking out?
No, no, no.
I was bench-coach, a couple of managers were tossed.
So then you make pitching changes.
So I guess that was practice.
When you go out to make a pitching change,
what does a sign of disrespect you won't tolerate
is that the pitcher flipping the ball to you,
is it him putting it in your hand too hard?
What is the unwritten rule there,
or is it a spoken rule that,
hey, when I come out to make a pitching change,
do this or don't do that?
A few things, I want you to be upset or frustrated sometimes,
right, because sometimes they didn't do their job
and that's okay to be upset.
This is a hard game to be perfect at.
You're no one's ever perfect.
So sometimes I have to make tough decisions
and take the ball at a guy's hands
when they think they're the best option.
So I understand some of the frustration.
I do think that if you're coming off the mound
and on the grass before I get to the mound,
that's number one, because sometimes I'm not
gonna take you out, maybe that's number one because sometimes I'm not going to take you out.
Maybe that's the first mound visit.
Number two, I think the flipping the ball is not going to happen.
Taking the ball with you, that's not going to happen.
And so I think a couple of those things will be non-negotiables for me.
And I will never show up somebody on the mound, but they will have a conversation maybe
post-gamer the next day. So when Trevor Bauer turns and throws the ball over the
center field wall, that's not something you would like. I think Frank Kona handled
that perfectly. Sandy has been known to be someone who will bark
down manningly back to the mound has that happened because he has a ZRA is
near five. He has not been very good this year. Certainly not so young,
worthy. Have you had any of that with him this year
where it's like get out of here.
I've got this.
He's never said that.
I could feel it from the mound or inside the dugout.
Again, you want to feel like you're the best option.
I remember Cece Sabathe is saying,
I'm only giving the ball to Mariana Rivera.
That's it.
I'm the best option you have in the bullpen. You want your ace to
feel that way, right? I've played with Kirshaws and Wainwrights and Chris Carpenter's and some really good
pictures that they feel like they're the best options. So I understand that. I've played with
Hall of Fame pictures and I've coached with Hall of Fame pictures. I'm okay with him being frustrated.
That's okay, that's part of it, that's part of the growth.
Let me, I think, I know this wasn't your question,
but I wanna get back to the WBC
affecting some of these guys, including Sandy.
The preparation was, you have to be,
you're pitching for your country so early in the season
and you have to be on point, that's a lot of pressure.
It's after pitching 230 innings, that is not easy to do.
So your preparation's out of whack.
And if you look at a lot of these guys that pitched in the WBC, they've been off to slow
starts.
I do think all the pitch characteristics are there.
Throw 98 miles an hour, good sync, good slider, the location might be a little bit different
than what he's used to. He'll get back to where he needs to be. We've been on a run with him being a little bit frustrated,
no doubt. What happens when he gets hot? And that's what I'm looking forward to. A lot of guys have
picked up some guys that have not felt really good about their season so far, but man, he's going
to be really good for us. Who's the teammate that you had? One, if I make you pick only one that most consistently,
all do you pick one that I'm sorry to.
That all do you the most,
that you were the most all by.
I mean, I'm thinking of course,
pool holes is in that category,
but once you started mentioning
Hall of Fame pitchers as well,
I'm like, okay, maybe there's somebody else
that if I made him pick only one,
a teammate that had that you were just like,
I can't, I don't
understand how that person can do this that well.
Yeah, it's so it's two guys and one's going to surprise you.
Aberpool Holtz, 700 home runs, I was there for his 700th, I was there for two of his MVP's.
When you needed a big hit or a home run, he was going to provide it.
What he did for me at second base and taking balls when he was playing first base.
So I wouldn't make the air early on.
I mean, the guy is phenomenal, a phenomenal human being
by the way, also.
That part is odd me, three home runs in the world series.
I can go on and on about the guy.
The next guy that's the biggest freak I've ever been around,
physically, tool wise, Fernando Tati's junior.
When I was watching him at 16 years old,
up at the system in San Diego,
he can just do things that guys can't do in this game
at such a young age.
So that probably has been the wow moment.
At that size too, I don't understand
how it emerges from that body type.
I don't know how he has that bat speed
to do all of, to generate that kind of power when it looks like
he's, you know, weighs a buck 50.
What'd you make of David Frey saying he wasn't worthy
of the Cardinals' Hall of Fame?
David Frey is one of my good buddies.
I know that was not an easy decision for him to make.
I think there's a couple factors that go along with it.
You know, I'm not gonna get on the personal side of it, but I do feel like, you know,
maybe some of it, for whatever reason, maybe didn't feel like he was worthy to be standing
next to some of these guys.
You know, God rest his soul, Bob Gibson's and Lou Brock's, but now that they're with,
you know, some other big name Hall of Famers standing there, he, for whatever reason, he didn't feel like he was worthy enough to be there even though we don't win that
2011 World Series without the big home run or big triple
so it just
Really tough decision for him, but
Man, it's it shows you what kind of person he is also did he seek your advice?
He did not he doesn't need to seek my advice on that.
What would you have told him though? I think it's special to put on that red jacket. If you're a
St. Louis Cardinal, you know the meaning behind that. And I think that was what made it so tough for
him to do is to put on the red jacket. And everything that goes along with it, I think he is deserving
and should have put on that red jacket because
I think of him as a cardinal Hall of Famer.
And I always will just because he doesn't have that red jacket.
Look at me, Lou Brock.
I think you were saying, weren't you saying back there, Billy, or who was saying earlier
in the show that Freeze was making a big show of not, was it Sugata?
There was Sugata, I know that.
It was Sugata.
He was making a big show, bringing more,
yet more attention to himself by declining
the Hall of Fame offer.
Now, I haven't seen a lot of examples of a guy's,
is you know what, not worthy of the Hall of Fame.
What are you gonna do when they offer to you, Skip?
You're gonna say yes or no?
I don't think that's gonna happen for me, yeah.
What is it that you look at as the greatest challenge beyond saying meeting the 200 employees?
Is there another one that you have faced this year that you've been like, man, this has been hard?
Yeah, I think blending analytics with the baseball staff and players and making sure that they
understand what numbers mean and what their what stuff is
relatable, what's not relatable, how do we message that to guys that you know maybe want it,
don't want it, but could really help them. You know, being in my seat, I need all the information
possible to deliver to the players and if they aren't feeling they're getting everything,
they're going to look for an outside source to get it from. And there's a lot of these drive lines y que no están haciendo nada, están mirando por un lado de la Source de la idea. Y hay muchas de estas las pilas y diferentes facilidades
que pueden hacer información
para que no se puedan producir.
Y me tengo que hacer eso para que no se puedan producir.
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Don Lebatard!
The alley has a bad reputation in general, right?
It does.
It's proud American history.
But on South Beach, someone's always just sitting somewhere,
smoking a cigarette.
You can't go down an alley around here and not see someone sitting there smoking
It's still it retains a pulsating heat from the night before you walk by some liquid. They're like is that water
Yeah, rain last night. That's definitely not water avoid the liquid always avoid the liquid in an alley
Still got I venture a guess that if you were to rake your tongue on the asphalt of an alley, you would die immediately.
I don't think it would be immediately though.
First, you'd contract very quickly right before death, several sexual diseases, and then
you would die.
This is the Don Lebertar Show with his two cats.
Chris Cody, your father right now, I think he's had some experience over the years pouring
diet sodas and pouring things into his thermos.
He just overflowed, completely mistimed and misjudged everything he was doing.
There's now diet soda stain all over our new carpets because your father continually
comes in here and is a toddler.
He is someone that you get more frustrated with than your young
daughter because your young daughter is no longer a toddler and your her grandfather now is.
Dad, is that the first time today you spilled something? I think so.
Could be. What about at the coffee shop we were at? Oh yeah, yeah, that was a bad one.
You know, it's a taco in my throat, by the way. They fill it up too much and you know, you got to in order to pour from a coffee cup
and drink this. I regret going this. You need to do the V, you know, you need to. Yeah, he's right.
Yeah, you need to do the V. And when it's filled up that much, you can't do it. You could take a sip of it
before you do the V. No, I got to do the V. You got to do the V. Billy's got me. I don't know who embarrass me the most
around the manager of the Marlins,
but I'm just gonna say all of you.
There were lots of options.
Yeah.
Just so you know TV, you had a bad angle.
You were looking at him straight on from the side, my view.
God, his chest, he's a plastic.
Dude, his abs, like I've never seen anything that flat.
Washboard.
We tried to get some advice as he was leaving.
He didn't work.
Mike Ryan asked him for advice on fitness
and he said, don't eat after 7 p.m.
Thanks.
That's a classic.
No, he also said, I was like, all right,
there's got to be something else because I try that.
He's like, you cut out carbs.
He's like, no, he carbs, I'm like, bowl.
There's good carbs and bad carbs.
Yeah, so they say, you must not drink alcohol. They're all good to me. I'd drink some alcohol, I do two bourbons and I'm like, bull. There's good carbs and bad carbs. Yeah, so they say, I'm like, you must not drink alcohol.
They're all good to me.
I drink some alcohol, I do two bourbons and I'm good.
I'm like, I've been doing three times as much
and it doesn't, I don't mean.
All of you were embarrassing.
Who was the most embarrassing?
Well, I didn't do anything.
I didn't do anything.
I didn't do anything.
I didn't do anything.
I was just sitting here.
Mike came in and said me and Skipper
really good friends now. So I don't know what it is that they were talking about. I was informed that sit here. Mike came in and said me and Skipper really good friends now.
So I don't know what it is that they were talking about.
I was informed that I left him hanging
when he came in and went to say hello for four seconds,
which was not my intention because he's...
Power move.
Well no, because here's the thing is that
I did an interview with him in the off season
like for this Marlon's hot stone show.
And for sure he doesn't remember that
because he's spoken to many people since then, right?
So my play was, I'll go and I'll say hello
to the person that brought him here
who's in charge of media relations.
So I'll say hello to that person, that person knows me,
and then we'll do like a turn in introduction,
hey, blah, blah, blah.
But what I didn't see is that his hand was out
and he was trying to say hello,
and then he hit me with, good to see you again,
which I know has probably fed to him.
There's no way he remembers me.
How you play it? But I definitely left him kind of hanging there.
So that was embarrassing.
Then Chris forgot how to speak for a little bit.
That was a little bit embarrassing.
I also didn't do this, Dan, on air,
because I didn't want to put you in a weird spot.
But you were saying that he was the hottest manager
and baseball, right?
Is that what you just said about him?
Yeah.
So right before the interview started,
he'll do it was there.
And he's like, he can come back anytime.
And she goes, he's the second hottest manager in baseball.
I go, really?
Who's the hottest?
And she's like, the manager in California, she's talking about Gabe Kapler.
Yeah.
So then, that means she said the Marlins manager.
Well, I didn't want to bring up, I didn't want to bring up Gabe Kapler to skip in case
they have some sort of, you know, rivalry. Best looking rivalry. Exactly. Well, I didn't want to bring up, I didn't want to bring up Gabe Kapler to skip in case they have some sort of rival,
you know, rival, rival.
Best looking rival, yeah.
Exactly, yeah, it's weird.
Who is fitter between them?
Because Kapler is muscles on Kapler's muscles.
Kapler's just bigger.
Man, reckless speculation.
I feel like he is bigger.
I know he's bigger.
I don't know if he's hotter,
but I think you all embarrassed me pretty profoundly.
Not me.
He's a Greg. Not me either.
He, uh, he slipped me a little note as he was leaving.
He didn't really.
And it said,
I know. No, no, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Wow
Let's see if I can find you still haven't yet see it maybe
There it is I mean Couldn't have made it up really does say that no
It's Greg's hand right. Wow. He's been playing, he planted that joke.
You owe Greg a moment.
You think I'm the only one who has these legal pets?
Yeah, come on, man.
It's clearly your handwriting.
All right, Greg.
I'm gonna announce this something.
He did say on his way out that that's the most enjoyable
interview he's ever done.
I think he says that every time that he leaves.
He does have to play the game, man.
You all embarrassed me.
No one more than Mike Ryan saying,
I do believe we've developed a friendship, a kinship.
We now are aligned, me and Skip.
Yeah, no, we had 15 minutes together
after Billy left him hanging.
I see his an opportunity.
That's not on purpose.
Well, that was an accident.
He introduced himself by saying big fan,
and of course I said no pictures please
but then I found out he was a manager of the marlins and we got along swimmingly
he claims to be a big fan of our show i think he was uh... he was just being nice about things he
couldn't have been a fan about the way you guys were objectifying him he had to be a
better like when he was leaving then i started objectifying him because he was walking away
oh you were doing it the i. Everybody was. You guys are talking
baseball. I was like no. No. No. It wasn't just baseball. It was also the way that
he takes care of himself. He's got a very good jawline and you can see his
head through his shirt. Yeah. It's a great jawline. Yeah. One of the things that I
wanted to get to and I want to be clear here on the front end that this is not directed
primarily at Craig Carton who has said publicly in a way that is very accountable that all
of his mistakes that made him a prison number are damaging.
And I believe in general terms in everyone deserving second chances, especially in cases where they
have paid in a way that is punitive for their crimes in
this case or their mistakes when they don't elevate
to crimes. So I want to make that clear on the front end
that I don't want to rip a guy who had a gambling
problem, who is a convicted felon for having a gambling problem. Addiction grabs human
beings and can be difficult. Thank you. But as it relates to our sorry sad sack, awful industry that employs people who are largely interchangeable.
The idea that Fox would give a convicted felon a promotion when that opportunity would
never go in my history doing this to somebody who isn't white is such an indictment of everything around me that I
find it deeply offensive about our industry that after making that mistake in a platform, Greg
Cody, we are so interchangeable all of us. The idea that Greg Carton, who recently
said of Shohei O'Connie, wake me up when he makes the postseason. Shohei O'Connie, who
leads the angels, Greg, in runs, hits, home runs, walks, RBI, stolen bases, average, on base percentage, slugging OPS wins, strike
out and earn run average.
He should make the playoffs then.
It's a good take.
He doesn't lead the team in doubles.
So you're talking about can't be that good.
Mike Trout is on the team too.
That's Brandon Jury, at least in the doubles, about dribbles.
So the former fell in that fox hired, was Craig Carton and not Michael Pompeo.
I was way off
It is an indictment of the industry. It doesn't lead in doubles. It's such a great gun or triples
I guess. Yes, he doesn't lead in triples as well. It does lead in triple. Yeah, he leads in triples
It's walks and doubles as they are
No, I think he leads and walks Mike Mike Trout has 39 walks. Show Hey O'Tani has 38
Oh Big E leads and walks Mike Mike Trout has 39 walks. Shohei Otoni has 38. Oh
Slacker when I got the steady lead Mike Trout has them and walked Mike Trout wants of the leave, right? No
No, they're finally good. No
All right Right
Standing's Mike. Could you imagine being is overwhelmingly incredible at your sport as Mike Trout is and being very
Obviously the second best player on your team.
He was the greatest player in the history of the world forever and then his teammates
better than him.
He wants him to leave, right?
No.
He wants him to go.
He wants to make the playoffs.
No, he wants to be the best again.
Not where I was going with any of this.
I appreciate the de-tour as I do all the time. But what an indictment of our industry at large, honestly, that, that is something that's
happening when we're all really disposable and the idea that someone would have that
kind of offer to remake their career.
It's stupifying.
It's just not something that would happen in many other places, and it's not
something certainly that would happen when somebody was a convicted felon and not a white person.
It's just, it's not something that would have any precedent in this business. I don't know if it
bothers the audience at large, but it just speaks so ill of what is our industry.
You really think that there's that much
disposability in this industry.
I mean, when I think of somebody like Stephen A Smith,
I don't think of him as being disposable.
I think of him as being one of a kind, unique,
and the opposite of disposable.
I think that the platforms, if I give them to just
about anybody, and they have given them to just about anybody,
we are proof of that, that people can have success
if you give them the platforms,
the platforms are the ones that responsible,
hell, Stephen, I smith failed on that platform
and then made his way back.
It doesn't mean he's not unique.
You went to the top of the food chain.
I will tell you that Drive Time hosts in America,
Drive Time radio hosts, totally interchangeable.
Usually people do like a comeback story,
and I think it's pretty irrefutable
that Carton is a comeback story.
He lost a lot, not just his profession, but his family.
I don't necessarily think I have opinions on the matter
because I don't watch what he does.
I watch it on mute and find it curious
that Craig Carton is talking to Tim Hardaway
about messy going to Miami. I'm sure it's a fine show. But Peter Rosenberg, who
I respect greatly in this industry, had this seemingly to say about Craig Carton.
LOL, the dude that committed fraud, embarrassed the whole station, went to jail, was accepted
back by them, did well and immediately leaves for more money. Wow, you can't write it. Again, I will go back to he has suffered
by his own doing and by his own admission and has been accountable to that suffering. He
takes all the blame for everything that happened there and should. And I do like comeback
stories and I like forgiveness. So I say again, not about him. You could just make him an avatar. You can make him a symbol.
Like I'm not talking about him. Just convicted felon X
being able to climb back up the ladder when convict you seem to be only giving details about him.
Well, but he's the only one that has this precedent. Forgive others too. Forgive others too.
Forgive others too forgive others to forgive others to forgive everybody
Everyone for their
Everybody literally doing a show next to Tim Hordeaway
You think skip drives to California to get in and out
What is this thing?
But is Fred Carton that good like I don't know his game I don't know him on the air
Honestly, I don't know whether he deserves this whether he doesn't tell me
Don't let a tart again started on the breakfast one. Oh, man
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Don't let me know Don't let me know Looking up on a breakfast like that
This is the Don Lebertar show with this two gods
Tell me that you guys can fill in some of the details for me on Drake having a basketball league in his home
that he won and celebrated in his home with a press conference and an after party because he beat the guys in his home at a basketball
tournament.
Somebody on his team drained a jumper and then there was an after party and a press conference.
Please give me as many details as you guys can that can be reported on on exactly the
life.
I think we would all create if we could for ourselves if we could create a fantasy land
out of our own athletic exploits.
I like what a dorky is.
And it used to be held against him, but now is he's age and his fanbase is aged along
with him to a degree.
Everyone just understands who he is that he uses this fame to do the dorky sports stuff
that deep down in your heart of hearts, you wish you could do.
Is this what Tony does with Ron McGill?
Again, Ron has been retired.
We haven't seen Ron on the court in a long time, but I would definitely like to be part
of this league of Drake has an invitation.
I would be a spot of shooter on his team.
Ron McGill is not with us today because he is saving sea turtles.
I don't.
How do you think your game would pair well with his because like, yes, I think more of a
facilitator though.
So I think it'd be good spot spot shooting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you guys also see what Rob Manfred had to say about the A's reverse boycott situation?
Because Rob Manfred, I think people have been listening to this show for a long time.
Understand that some of these commissioners are running a giant grift and in the case of baseball.
It's just been so wonderful and funny to watch after they didn't want to compromise themselves
with putting spider-man on the bases.
They now have corona embedded in the mound and advertising all over the place because
they're grabbing every last dollar because that's what the commissioner's job is to make
them every last dollar.
It doesn't matter how it looks, how greedy it is.
For him to say of the reverse boycott in Oakland
where people went to chant, sell the team, this is the quote.
I mean, it was great.
It was great to see what is basically an average majorly crowd
in that facility for one night.
It's a great thing. Wow. You can't make up somebody
being more tone deaf than that to think that a reverse boycott of baseball just bleeping
your city. A city that cares about baseball, but because it's been run so poorly and so greedily in that market that the commissioner of the sport can sit there, the guy
who pantomime the golf swing during the lockout before doing his press conference.
You think he was practicing that during the birth of his child or?
Yeah.
You thought it was bad. Chris had one in the chamber that he was going to unleash on
the skip that he decided not to ask that I was the only one pushing saying that's a good idea. So you know it was bad. Chris had one in the chamber that he was gonna unleash on the skip that he decided not to ask that
I was the only one pushing saying that's a good idea, so you know it wasn't
If he brought it in the bedroom, you know, you know mid you know, just in the middle of what in the middle of calling time for your wife
Steping out of the batter's box and just doing a dry swing swing at it
Dry swing it's what it's what it's called why would be going to the bullpen
Whoa
What is that with the wife we making the call the ball? Yep, yep
So Drake said I did what Kobe did in game seven against the Celtic shots not falling you play effing defense
It's a three on three league by the way then
Last time he won championship he bought his team or himself a hundred thousand dollar championship ring
Thing is his Drake's actually not a fan of his team in this league because he knows they would just lose if he was
So he roots for another team in the league not the one he plays for
There's a joke there
What's the word there's people laughing right now listening in their podcast for sure
Roy workshop it why did you just in the bedroom?
Tap your right arm
To call for a relief picture in the bedroom. That's why I was doing we always we could do that
We do
You guys have never been in the throes of it and said to yourself man, I need a reliever here because I'm about done
Okay, Billy nine inning Billy over here
I believe Billy does have a complete game. I believe that I believe that among us,
understated Billy is the one.
Underspoken.
Without a perfect game, CGB, I get the save.
That's right.
I can't believe Skip gave you that note.
Yeah, you know what?
Why didn't I save it?
I should have framed it by now.
Yeah, you did save it.
You threw it in the garbage can
and then retrieved it and had your handwriting on it uh...
billy liar
did you see who's in the mix replace carton
was at my
turtle from entourage
what
oh my gosh how are they doing their hiring over there i think they just
have a general look
and then it go
well i think it's going to be tiki barber so that's gonna basically uh...
confound some speaking of people in the media that don't get chances
i imagine tiki barber was up shaking a fist at michael strahan every morning
for stealing his career is identity his all his television jobs
i thought of you this weekend billy because hosey consicco tweeted that aliens
visited him and told him where to find a family of Bigfoot and that the aliens wanted to adopt him.
Yeah, I gotta get whatever Jose's on that stuff is strong.
Can we see some of this?
Oh, finally, like can we see an alien or a Bigfoot or some big feet or something?
I'm good.
I'm good not seeing one.
Why? I just I want to believe I'm good not seeing one. Why?
I want to believe I'm so bad because I feel like why would he be making this up, right?
Yeah, exactly.
There is like a working theory of that.
If we see one, we wouldn't believe it's real.
It could be as authenticated because our brains are just too small to process, not being the center of the universe,
that we just rather go on being agnostic about alien life
because it just complicates things too much,
complicates all our deities, it complicates our own mortality,
and so we'll just continue to pretend,
even if an alien decides to throw a Drake press conference
that we're just going to assume
it's artificial intelligence.
But you say about aliens,
what about big-foot life?
Yeah.
Same, great question.
Same, you think?
Same.
We'd like to think that we know it all already.
I speak with a front experience
until there can't be something out there
that we don't know yet.
What if we're the smart ones?
Like the aliens are stupid.
Like we always assume the aliens are like this smarter existence that's out there that can do all these things.
What if we're the smartest ones in the galaxy?
Well, that was kind of the whole idea behind War of the Worlds, which has one of the worst movie endings ever.
Which is they get here, they destroy our entire planet and realize, oh, bacteria!
Spoiler alert!
Geez, I haven't seen that one yet.
We can get sick.
Wait a minute.
Weren't there aliens in Vegas recently on video, 18-tall?
Aliens are everywhere, damn.
Eight feet tall and seen with bulging eyes
and typical alien bulging eyes.
That was William Carlson at the Vegas Golden Night Parade.
Let's play that sound, Chris Cody, for the people.
We've got a lot of drunken parade sound available to us because Bruce Brown was shirtless
and saying to anyone who would listen, I can't believe Yokech got me that drunk.
He said he was feeling it bad.
Yokech went from, I don't want to do parades, so I can't get enough bleepin parades and
then he's in Vegas.
And now he is indeed with his horses.
Michael Malone, as I mentioned before,
I did Fred Durst and Limbisket.
Is there a more modern reference
for the look that he's going flat-bri-
brimmed cap with sunglasses
and a shirt that reads, put that in your pipe and smoke it?
I suppose they Paul Wallss the more relevant one.
It's not really more reason.
And Fred Durst.
I mean, it's been talking about the odds here.
Let's go ahead and play the Carlson sound
of drunken parade stuff that South Florida is trying to avoid.
So this guy, this guy, this... ...f-ing guy.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Hi, Lee.
So, he was here day one.
Yeah.
And I know you have been here day one.
You guys are so amazing.
Yeah.
We played Arizona in the first game and we beat the shit out of them.
What game?
No points, but that's okay.
It goes at the year one, I was pretty great.
But you guys were greater.
And we've been on this journey. I said to marshy, marshy you got something to say?
No, no, no, no, listen to me.
We've been waiting for six long years for this guy could be and be key
and the middle of that he made love to the air old complete game Carl Ford
Marcy PR came and tried to cut it off.
Just trying to pull him off.
I literally dragged him off the stage by his arm.
She goes, we gotta go.
Where was he?
Is the spectrum then Malone?
Well, there was a lot of shirtlessness.
So is the spectrum of drinking Malone, Carlson, Huggins?
I mean, to Malone Carlson Huggins Pittsburgh pirates bus driver getting arrested for DUI even though they had a
police convoy this weekend. Or Mike at the 17th hole in Tahoe. My tongue is so heavy.
Let's have Mike Malone telling you to put it in your pipe and smoke it with the flat brim
and the sunglasses and the giant chain.
It's Bruce and me going anywhere.
Hell no.
Hell no.
Hey, we run the f*** back.
We run the f*** back.
Oh yeah.
Get lost.
Get lost.
Get lost.
Get lost.
Get lost.
Get lost.
Get lost.
Get lost. Get lost. Get lost yeah, yeah. Get out.
Get out.
Get out.
Get out.
He became the doctor of fucking honest.
He did a personal interview too though.
Like, off to the side where he's like,
we're getting another one.
And I'm out.
Get out.
And I'm out.
He said, like, he's yelling at the camera.
And I'm out.
If you avoided these things, Cody, you've eaten them up.
Like you, most South Florida fans have avoided
most of these celebrations, I feel like.
Yeah, this is a new Anon and Proof Down Leverdarsho with the Stugas.
Gamble on by Draftkins.
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