The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Nothing New

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

CONTENT WARNING: This segment contains mentions of sexual assault and sexual violence. If you or a loved one has experienced sexual assault, you are not alone. Call the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-4673. Hour 2 begins with a conversation on power, money, corruption, shamelessness, and toxic work environments as Dan and Mike discuss the heinous details of the Vince McMahon lawsuit and how this is nothing new in his decades long abuse of power. Then, Tyreek Hill's prepared divorce papers, Stugotz's jealousy, and the Super Bowl media hotel. Plus, The Luxor's beam to space, mummies and the sanctity of ancient artifacts, and Jessica's picture with Terrell Suggs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. We're about to discuss the Vince McMahon lawsuit here. So there is some language here that some in our audience may find triggering as we get into the details of this lawsuit, so we wanted to give you a heads up. I've been wondering around here for a while, Stu, got lamenting publicly in a way that probably has irritated our audience. This American movement toward if you have power and money in sports or outside of

sports, you can get away with absolutely anything and everything if you're just willing to lean into being shameless. That shamelessness becomes a shield of immunity that will protect you from anything in the way of consequences. And you've heard me talk about it with Dana White, not a lot of precedent for a person in that position of power and sports slapping his wife in public in a video that gets out and there being no consequences because he's got that much power. And the other one who's built just like him is Vince McMahon, who has had an assortment, a large resume filled with garbage that makes it known to all involved. It is no secret, a truly despicable human being.

But we have finally found evidently where it is that the powerful rich white man in America can actually lose something that he cares about. And the line evidently is in a lawsuit, it being alleged that you shit on a woman during a threesome. That evidently is the final straw on Vince McMahon's WWE career. He does not want to leave that. He has been reluctant in every way to leave WWE, but he resigned at the end of last week while denying all of the allegations, but also got away from the entirety of this thing

that he cares about, that he certainly didn't want to leave, and that he was exceptionally stubborn about not leaving. And I've got to be honest, I was surprised that he was gone only because I thought that he was going to be gone five or six other times, and he just stays there and somehow, because he built the whole thing, somehow, because it's scripted and it's not really sports and he's just running a business, but now when you've got something that's publicly owned, there are stockholders and there are consequences. And I was relieved to finally see that there were consequences that this man is being punished for what has been a vile, vile run of terror through making that sport hugely popular, bigger than it has ever been,

but also making him so powerful that it didn't seem like anything was ever going to happen to him. But surprised that he wasn't gone five stories ago, because I'm with you. Like, well, he was, he resigned last year. But he was still hanging around the fringe. No, he was, I mean, there were allegations that he had people in place to help. Rhonda Rousey actually levied one of those. She called out Bruce Pritchard as someone

that was in creative that as long as he's there, Vince McMahon will have influence over the company. But Vince McMahon did resign. Stephanie McMahon came in as a co-CEO with Nik Kahn, and then Vince McMahon decided, you know what? I overreacted. I shouldn't have stepped down and he came back in. And it was that action that made a real public headache

for TKO, the parent company behind WWE. What I find really fascinating, I've read the entire lawsuit and WWE- You left here last week shocked and it's hard to shock you. I was watching Mike walk around the office with a phone in his hand, reading that story. It was crazy, it was freaking out. It's depraved, it is a horrible abuse of power.

You can certainly, if you follow the product close enough, even though they omit certain names, you can start, if you follow the product close enough, even though they omit certain names, you can start deducing who is being talked about. Um, and this is where WWE has a real problem on their hands. This is a toxic work environment culture. And this is just an isolated snapshot of probably something that was indicative of decades-long abusing of power. If this lawsuit continues and TKO and WWE better hope it doesn't, you are going to see this play out in the public forum and it is a nightmare scenario in terms of toxic

workplace environments. I read that Ari Manuel has had his daughter working in this company for several years now. So that has to scare him. What I found shocking about the resignation, just knowing Vince McMahon's will is, it was discussed prior to it that it was nearly impossible to oust Vince McMahon. Even if the shareholders held a vote,

they would still need his signature willingly to go around on it. He was, his share in TKO was locked in. And the way that it happened was Slim Jim, who was a big presenting sponsor, has been synonymous with that product for several years, came out with a statement and pulled its sponsorship from one of the Marquis matches there.

And then two hours later, you have news of Nik Kahn announcing to the company that Vince McMahon has resigned, making this way easier than it could have been if he decided to fight it. But my main takeaway, and you can start looking at very suspicious timing, shock resignations from the company. People that have done some reporting have known that there were rumors of this, that

maybe the company knew a year ago, even though the company's public stand is, we found out about this in real time. A horrific abuse of power, people being put in place and holding positions for years and decades in some cases because they were some of Vince's boys and Vince taking care of his boys, trafficking this woman who is stuck in an impossible predicament, using her as a bargaining chip in negotiations, it is a horror story of the highest order. And if this continues to play out, if they don't settle, it might just be a drop in a relative bucket.

Because I can't, because when you have this toxic-a-work environment, there is no way this is an isolated incident. And when it comes to Vincent McMahon, there's been several reporting that we know. It is not with him Crazy story, but I think the most shocking part about all of it is that he actually resigned because I thought he was built Like everybody else who just is stubborn and will refuse to resign and this actually shows for the first time that There's a new sheriff in town. There isn't a McMahon running WWE. There isn't a McMahon child that is next in line to replace Vince. This is a public company now. It's a whole new day.

One of the things that is truly outside of my realm of understandings, to God's eye, I don't have an ability to grasp some of what it is that we're talking about. If you think of rape as something that the people who study this type of stuff would tell you, it's an act of power, it's not even a sexual act, it's power is what's happening there. To distort it so much that you arrive at the point that the detail I think now there are a lot of details in this lawsuit that are really troubling and I should have probably said before we even headed down this conversation I should have probably trigger alerted all of you on some of these details from this lawsuit

are truly horrifying and the sex trafficking on its own, I think, is something that no one should be immune to. But I think the detail that got him gone for the, for people who don't want to read the entirety of a lawsuit or just see bullet point after horrifying bullet point is the act of being so dehumanizing to somebody that you shit on them. That one detail. Of all the details. There's plenty more. There's plenty more. There's one, there's a nameless WWE superstar that everyone, because of the timeline and

because of the descriptive nature of the lawsuit has deduced this is Brock Lesnar. There was a time in the lawsuit where Brock Lesnar has communication with this victim and it's working towards Vince McMahon trying to set up a party amongst the three. Said WWE superstar gets too inebriated at dinner. God, what that might look like, that he just hops back on the plane. And then Vince McMahon goes back with the victim

and role plays as if he has Brock Lesnar in this case. And that's where a lot of physical injuries happen to the alleged victim. The story that her lawyers put out there, of her being barely able to walk in pain for weeks, all this happening by the way during the COVID lockdown, it's sick depraved behavior. He imagining that other male talent from the WWE's roster

is in the room, him showing pictures to people as he described as tech boys, photos of this woman where she is saying, and you see the text like, please don't do that. And he doesn't care. He's like, oh, they love it. A referee that's unnamed, another high ranking a WWE official that is named, his physical rehabilitator. That's something that seemed like

that was a long running thing. The head of talent relations, and that was a brutal, where he essentially forced this woman, Vince McMahon did, to serve herself as breakfast to her head of talent relations, town to town, meet in the hotel, report back the details of your sexual encounter. Just a nightmare that this woman was trapped in.

I don't understand, Stugets, I really don't. It's such a distortion that it is legitimately confusing to me how, and if you follow professional wrestling at all, you know that it is littered with partying and abusive substances and that the lifestyle is several realms beyond gluttonous and decadent and dangerous. Professional wrestlers die early. There's a lot of physical pain involved. There's a lot of medicating in order to sort of numb the physical pain, but to live in that world for so long To oversee and have the power in that world for so long

That it distorts you so much as a human being that the only way that you can keep chasing The highs of the highs is to dehumanize people more and more because you've been doing it for so many years and so many decades when you're in charge of overseeing this thing and there are never consequences to get to the point where you are somebody who can behave this way and not think it's going to become something that becomes a public shame for you that comes with consequences that you keep pushing the envelope further and further on how much you're going to dehumanize people. Because you think you can. By exerting your power over them? Well, in part because he did. He came to an agreement with an

NDA and the reason why this is playing out in public is because the payment stopped The payment stopped and he was in breach of the non-disclosure I'm not kidding you stugots where when I'm reading this I don't understand how you reach a level of that kind of evil Without realizing that you've become evil Folks whether you're hosting a game day a movie night without realizing that you've become evil. because it's packed with half a pound of cheese, sauce, and other toppings, and comes at an incredible price. Make the game-winning call and grab a Dijorno classic crust pizza from the grocery store today. It's not delivery. It's Dijorno. Don Lebatard!

Sports! Stugats! More sports! This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats! Stu Gatz! I don't know, Stu Gatz, if you have seen lately what has been happening with Tyreek Hill's personal life out in public, but for the uninitiated, before Tyreek Hill got to Miami, before Tyreek Hill really got to professional stardom, he had incidents of physical abuse with his wife and with children, and he came and rehabbed some of that and time passed.

And so when he was on hard knocks, what was presented to you with access in exchange for access was his marital status now and they took you inside his home and he was looking at finances with his wife in the living room and what was presented to the audience was loving and I don't know if it was mythologizing but it all of it seemed like something opposite the details that we had learned about Tyreek Hill before and people are allowed to but all of it seemed like something opposite the details that we had learned about Tyreek Hill before and people are allowed to change,

people are allowed to learn, but it was glossed up. It was shiny. It was a love story that was presented on hard knocks. It seemed like a normal relationship that most couples could relate to. That's what it seemed like. It was intimate in a couple of ways. It was meant to look intimate

because you're granted an access to a star's life inside his home that you don't normally get. And it was also the intimacy of a relationship that makes you, allows you to see another side of this human being that when you're seeing him at the facility, it's not what it looks like. But then his house catches fire in an incident in which it was reported that a child was playing with a lighter and then soon thereafter, two months after getting married, there's a petition that files for divorce, that Tyreek Hill has filed for divorce.

He denies, initially, even though there is paperwork, he denies that there is any trouble whatsoever that he is getting divorced at all. He is saying that everything is fine and he doesn't necessarily understand how the paperwork has been filed. And now he's saying that people have been fired and there is a quote bleeping bonehead who filed divorce papers. And I ask you, and I ask the audience, at LeBatard Show is the place that you can vote on the polls. Do you believe that someone files a petition for divorce

by accident on someone else's behalf? Do you believe that that's a thing that can happen that has any basis in reality? Once you've gotten to the point of a petition being filed, it may be a mistake, but it's not a mistake of paperwork. Like, you may have gotten emotional and made a mistake. You might have gotten so, so angry that you did something in a moment that you did not want to do, but paperwork does not get filed by mistake on this sort of thing, I don't think.

It's also, it can't be, right? It can't be someone who's close to them saying, hey, you know what, this doesn't look right. I'm gonna file for divorce on their behalf. Like, that's impossible. I mean, we all have our divorce papers signed ready to be turned in, right? Don't we all do that?

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean, like, it's sarcasm. That right, don't we all do that? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. It's sarcasm, that's ridiculous. He would have had to sign something. I understand, especially with Tyra Kill being a public figure and his history

prior to coming to Miami certainly has been scrutinized. For this one, if you're able to isolate just the week that that married couple probably had, I'm good, like largely ignoring it. I think Tyree is kind of embarrassed himself with the community notes, but I could see how an argument about the status of your marriage can start after your house catches fire. I don't have anything in my life that's happened like that, but I have almost lost my marriage over a sock

in a laundry missing. So like. Oh, we need to hear the story now. No, it's just like. We've heard it before. It's the second time he's used that example. It's just sometimes little things are the start of much bigger things.

And in this case, the little thing is a multi-million dollar mansion catching fire. I just see how this can happen. So you're saying you get cranky about the sock and then the truth comes out on bigger things, right? In this instance, it was reported that a child started the fire. I'm just saying, there are family dynamics here at play

and a pretty large traumatic event that could help explain why someone considered divorce. I don't think there's any like, oh, why, what happened, aspect two of it, for me, for me it's like he tried to deny a public filing and pretend like it never happened, which like, it's a public filing. And this actually happened to Brian Kelly a year ago,

and the, a local Baton Rouge network posted a story that he had filed for divorce against his wife and then he, and I guess his kids tweeted that it was not true and they were all at dinner together and it was a really awkward and weird situation and then people were speculating that maybe it was the wrong Brian Kelly but it wasn't because he was from Massachusetts and it had all of his address in it, and so fans found his address, and I mean, it was a whole messy thing, and then, I guess four days later,

they were like, we're actually not getting divorced anymore, but it was the same thing, it's like, this is public record. Actually, this happened with Tua last year, remember when he got married, and Andy Slater saw the filing and asked him about it, and he was like, I kind of wanted this to be private. And it's like, well, this is public record now.

It just, yeah, the denial, I think, is what makes this like a newsworthy thing. I feel bad for the assistant that got fired, because you know, he just did, or she just did, what they were asked to do. Hey, take this thing, go file it with the court, and then he does it, and Tyreeq's like, who did this?

You're fired! Is it weird that when Chris was talking about court, and then he does it, and Tyreeq's like, who did this? You're fired. Is it weird that when Chris was talking about divorce papers and everyone having them signed that I believed him, that I thought I was being left out? Like, I didn't know this was a thing. I think we all were looking at him and understood that he was being sarcastic,

but the look on your face made him say out loud, I'm just joking because you were so baffled. But this is what happens to Stu Godz when he does God bless football and then we ride him through three hours of the car wash after that. He's so done by this stage of the show on Mondays. Oh yeah.

The things that you get jealous of are so weird to me. Like you're jealous that you don't have signed divorce papers because Chris was joking about having that. And you like, someone else had that so you wanted the signed divorce papers also. I just thought it was a thing that I wasn't doing and it does seem efficient if indeed one day you want to file for divorce. You already have the papers, they're signed, you're ready to go, you're done.

Is this like, you believed him because his mom's a lawyer, right? I don't know why, I believe him because of what Dan said, I'm tired. I believed him, I did. I'm very convincing. If his mom wasn't a lawyer, I'd be like like there's no way Chris knows how to draft divorce papers You don't know how to start that process Sign my mom's a lawyer, and I don't know how to do that. I would have to Google it This is one of the places I get a divorce where I start making some of the mistakes that I make because I was about to make some

Sort of reference on where there's smoke. There's fire That I didn't make because I was just sort of confused by where there's smoke, there's fire that I didn't make because I was just sort of confused by what was happening with Stugatz where he's looking at you seriously and you had to walk back the idea that we all have divorce papers already written up somewhere in our home in the case that you got an emergency file and then get out of town. I was wondering if Abby had them, I did it, I started thinking a little bit, you know? I have them and I'm not even married.

You're thinking is a bad thing. You ever wonder if she asked you to sign something? You're like, what is this that I'm signing? All the time. I'm so excited to see what's gonna become of Chris Cody's Instagram algorithm now that he has searched divorce on his device. Billy, I thought of you because did you see

which hotel is going to be the media hotel in Las Vegas for everyone in the... It's perfect. It's actually perfect because that hotel was on the cutting edge of being the height of advancement in 1994. When we put a pyramid in Las Vegas, like an Egyptian pyramid, it's shaped like a triangle and the light at the top of it evidently is one of the few things that can be seen from space.

I think the Luxor has hit a certain number of hard times that don't make them spend. I think that light costs something like a million dollars a day. Can you look some of this up for me? Because I think they stopped using that light that way, but that light can be seen from space. And now during the Super Bowl, it's going to be shaped perfectly like a Dorito. It's going to be advertising for Doritos

because it's shaped like a Dorito. Yeah, they're wrapping one of the sides as a giant Dorito. So if you're like flying in or whatever and you're going past it, you see like a Dorito. Yeah, they're wrapping one of the sides as a giant Dorito. So if you're like flying in or whatever and you're going past it, you see a giant Dorito. Can I say something weird? I, in all the Super Bowls that we have done that I've traveled for, I have never stayed in the Media Hotel.

And I wonder if I'm missing out on that. Like, is there something going on at the Media Hotel that I wish I was part of? Well, you might see like Rob Ryan walk by. That's the highlight of my media hotel stay. I have only ever stayed at the media hotels, Billy. And they're usually like the airport, Marriott Courtyard or like the airport Hilton

or something like it's always by the airport. It's always a hike from wherever the convention center is. So the fact that they're staying at the Luxor to me is like I'm a little surprised, but I feel like the airport Marriott might be a little bit better in this case, I'm not sure. You were saying that like I should feel like I'm not missing out, but I feel like I'm missing out more

to be perfectly honest with you. Well, Rob Ryan, I mean. Oh, Rob. No, wait a minute. It's air. Wait a minute. Rob Rickles walking around. You're shooting very high with Rob Ryan and...

No, like, listen to me. Look at that. Look at that hotel. He's staying at the Cosmo. You guys saying Rob Ryan and Rex Ryan and Rob Rickle, it's gonna be Ray Rotto. Like you guys are going, you guys are shooting. We'll take them. I'm telling you, Rob Ryan was staying at Amiga.

I'm throwing me with a good time. I have confirmed that you can indeed see the Luxor from space and it's one of like 11 things that you can see from space, the Grand Canyon, the Palm Island, the Great Wall of China, this shows Virtue's signal. My penis really still got to go sit in the penalty body. Damn it, like honestly, like what, I mean, you're, just, just,

How many times do I have to tell studio team to not talk directly into two gasses here? That, are you kidding me? That could not have come from another room. We just, none of us said it to him, and we're all just like, he wouldn't have said that. No, he wouldn't have come up with that. Doesn't make any sense. He can't hear us after. His penis is famously small.

It is. Luxor Light, $51 an hour by the way. That's not accurate. It's not $51. Was he not listening? He gets so bad at the end of Mondays. Have you noticed this, Billy? Have you noticed how he- Well, he's not good to start Mondays either, so when's the one of the good times? What day is he really cooking?

He sent $51 a day on the light. That is not what the light costs at the Luxor to beam into space. What does that even mean? Into space at the top of the Luxor. No, I know, but what does he mean by it costs $51 a day? But wait until Tuesday though. He'll really get it going then.

I'll tell you this. I googled Luxor light cost and it says the lamp was first powered on in October 1993, blah blah blah blah blah blah each lamp is worth $1200 and 7000 watts and when it's operating at full power the system costs $51 per hour with $20 per hour for the electricity used for its 315,000 watts so it doesn't cost a million dollars a day either somewhere between 51 and a million I found him the line Don lebatard. Oh, I think Larry Fitzgerald's on the green right there. Stugatz. That's Alfonso Ribeiro. Now, how do you think that Larry Fitzgerald has a son? To be fair, Alfonso Ribeiro has a great ass.

This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugatz. Had a good run of songs on the show, but created by members of this show and fans alike. And I have something in my inbox that I'm not super crazy about, and I know we have a set standard here, and we don't guarantee airplay just because someone made a song. Fleminem, multiple Sui nominees in his history, but he did a collaboration with Izzy Gutierrez, and I believe it's a great cover.

And, you know, it's long, I'm not gonna play the whole thing, I can. It's okay. I gotta admit, if it didn't have Izzy Gutierrez attached to it, I probably wouldn't play it, but this is the type of creativity I do wanna encourage. It's gotta hide degree of difficulty too. It's not like just an easy song to do,

so gotta give him a little credit there. But this buildup is not the greatest of buildups. Terrible cells. No, I tell you what, I'm gonna play it. Set in the bar low though. And you tell me when to stop it. Okay. Clink, clink, clink.

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Get the polly in Lamar Jackson speed stance predictable as a to a throw I love discussing all time when it's through guys debate about who to go I'm like road wins do it again super bowls who to go who to go Lamar and Chokes all these Swifties at the Super Bowl cause a kick that went bad in January in New York where the bills get a dome. Biggest the what? Is it the what? Swim at the what?

Biggest the ass up at Bowl. Show fans so thirsty to put me in beef disgusted like I was the fine bucket thief. I look at the tweet since I'm sucking my teeth I'm letting it rock, I mean loves him to steep. I still wanna get me a pod with Cody we talkin' FJs in the splash and we pee Just know if you diss me a small part of you wants to kiss me and not let you call me Daddy I'm known for the pic on the train tracks, it's pretty iconic, cold dirt in the shirtless

Calcie Still let the leader get bigger, they're waitin' on the kid to get dropped but I'm boards with my B Love when they ask, you can fill every seat, it's only Foxworth and Pablo and me Not a Michi, I can't play in the league, but right now I feel like I'm big Tony C I am reading Stugan Dlamir about the Luxor light. It is evidently as strong as 42,000 lighthouses combined. When it was first unveiled, it did cost a million dollars a year, not a million dollars a day in order to light the sky light space. And it attracts evidently and they couldn't have foreseen this in any way. Bats, grasshoppers and an

assortment of crazed insects. Then make- And prop comets. But it prevents boats from crashing into it, so. That is- Take the go with the bat, I guess. That is a positive, yes, thank you, I appreciate it. So does my penis.

I'll show myself the door. Because I was speaking of pyramids earlier, I'll show myself the door. Because I was speaking of pyramids earlier, I wanted to ask you a question that my wife came home with the other day that I hadn't considered Jessica's going with you and it's unfortunate because I would like to have her for this question. Well, did you tell her it was the aliens that made them? I did not. My wife went to a museum when she was in New York

and she came back from the museum and there was an actual tomb, there were tombs that had been moved from ancient Egypt and there was a coffin with a mummy in it or Nate mummy. And she asked me, and it's something I simply had not considered before, whether bones should be moved from a resting place, especially bones that had been wrapped this ornately in order to preserve a transition into the afterlife from a belief system that was ancient. Now, I think most

of us would say that you shouldn't grave rob bones. You shouldn't move somebody from a cemetery. Grave robbers are considered awful just for stealing things that have value from inside of a coffin. This shows staunchly anti-grave robbing. That is correct and that's easy to be, but if you're in a museum and now you're making profit off of someone's remains, she asked something that I hadn't considered, which is should those bones be moved and transported to a place, no matter how ancient they are, transported to a place where they become something that is learning, profit, archaeology, that is something that is meant to be historical knowledge. And when I started thinking about it, I thought to myself, that's something that

probably shouldn't be moved from where it was. Well, there's a lot of discourse about museums in general. For example, I went to Greece over the summer and it was sad to learn that most of the great Greek artifacts are in museums across the world. They had the dawn of civilization and modern society, all born in Greece and they don't have enough to show for it. But I think when it comes to that discussion, you need to ask yourself two questions. Are there necks of kin around? Is there family connected to the victim? And also, is there a publicly financed stadium

that needs to be built? And that's the only spot that they could put it. If so, perhaps, you know, a little shove of the bone, maybe 15 feet the other way. At what point is an artifact just junk that's getting in the way of cool things? You know what I mean? I mean we can't have old buildings around forever. What's the point that we'll never have cool new buildings? Everything doesn't have historical significance. It's just old.

But human bones though that have been placed in a certain place. I think are different than just old buildings. I was, we were speaking of museums, Jessica, during one of the breaks after we were talking about Tyrell Suggs had an amazing sentence where she just volunteered. I've got a picture with Tyrell Suggs and me at the Louvre. I was at the Louvre studying abroad. Yes, I was one of those people that came back from study abroad and I was like, I said cheers, like I pretended I was British, study abroad in London, anywho. I was at the Louvre and I saw Tyrell Suggs. I was with of those people that came back from city abroad and I was like I said cheers like I pretended I was British so you brought in London any who I was at the Louvre and I saw Tarell Suggs I was with all my girlfriends and I was like oh my god, that's Tarell Suggs and they were like what I was like I was also like 20 19 when my friends had no idea who it was and I was like trust me

We have to take a picture with him somebody took a picture with him in front of the Louvre and then I was like Thanks, by the way, I'm a Steelers fan and he said something really funny to me I can't remember what it was but like we had a moment and then I was like bye by the way. I'm a Steelers fan and he said something really funny to me I can't remember what it was, but like we had a moment and then I was like bye, and I never saw him again The Louvus that plays that can also have a Doritos Decal on it and people stop throwing things the Mona Lisa. You're not doing any good. I was also not doing any bad It's behind glass you're accomplishing literally nothing It was still shocking

You're just wasting a day for tourists that want to see it because then they have to close the room and clean up the chili or whatever it is that you guys keep throwing a glass. What are you actually accomplishing? I love the sound. What problem in the world have you solved by doing this? All the patrons there are just like,

oh, like the sound when they do that. I love how quickly the people at the Louvre spring into action. They have those screens there, like ready for like it's a daily occurrence. They just know, yep. Code red, code red. Terrell Suggs would have stopped it.

Put it on the pole, Juju. Are you solving any of the world's problems by throwing chili at the Mona Lisa at LeBatard shows? I think, I think Chris is right. I think it was something about hunger, which is like, well, you're, you're literally wasting soup now. So like, someone's another hungry person.

We're talking about everything except the cause that was the protest. We're talking all around it. We're mentioning that it's chili as opposed to talking about what is being protested by throwing chili at the glass in case. I'm going to go spaghetti there. If I'm going to try to prove a point with a food item,

I'm not going to do soup. I'm going to take a handful of some meat sauce spaghetti. The pasta just dripping down the thing. I feel like that would prove a point with a food item. I'm not gonna do soup. I'm gonna take a handful of meat sauce, spaghetti, the pasta just dripping down the thing. I feel like that would make a better statement. But you're just dirtying your hands. That's true. It's behind glass. For cause though.

You're getting arrested. I love Monday morning quarterbacking protesters. Well, donate your bail money to this cause. I'm doing nothing by the way. You're gonna have to pay to get out of jail. Donate that to the cause that you're protesting protesting I don't think I've ever seen a protest that I'm like, you know what I want to help this person Never I see him. I'm like you're annoying. I hope this problem gets worse What you guys also shamed Lucy for like taking a shelter dog home for a day

So that's right. Well, you also stole a dog the same day. So saved What is the best food to throw at the Mona Lisa? Because I think I might be with Chris Cody. Spaghetti with a lot of meat sauce. It's going to, but it's not going to stick. There's not going to be any things. Good spaghetti sticks to the wall. Right. We'll see how the pasta is cooked.

Do you have a better food of any sort that would be possible? That would be more gratifying to throw at the Mona Lisa in protest. Because I'd- Like first bringing slices of pizza would be cool, but they're not gonna stick at all. Mashed potatoes. Yeah, that would be cool. But you want a grime-iness on it. You want a film that prevents others from enjoying

the Mona Lisa. You want the crowd to go, oh! If you're doing steak, they're just gonna be like, what are they throwing? Steak, like there would be no gasps. You can't throw Cheerios, they'll just bounce right off and not make a mess, yeah. The soup?

And it was pumpkin soup too, so it was orange color. I was wondering what that was. Split pea would be good, because it's green. That's honestly what it looked kinda like. Yeah, no, this was pumpkin. What was the protest? What was the activism being done there by throwing soup? Something about healthy and sustainable food.

Jessica, how was the time in the penalty box with Stugatz? Because by this time on Mondays, and he came in at one o'clock in the morning last night on flights, we're gonna, this is the Stugatz we're gonna get now is gonna be a very tired Stugatz because he doesn't realize that he's too old to be flying all over the country like because he doesn't realize that he's too old to be flying all over the country like this and it really beats him down.

So we're headed into a pretty awful slalom stretch here with Stugatz. And then the dead and company residency starts, it's going to be a long year ahead of us. But to be fair, I didn't go in the penalty box. I actually had to go pee-pee. Okay. So you made it look like you were suffering the penalty, but you didn't actually go and do anything. Well, he's laying across the, he's taking a nap. I, where would I even be right now?

Let's be honest, he's tripping balls. Look at him, Mike. Look at the, do you still love that? That we're approaching 20 years. It's going to be this year, it will be 20 years that we have been doing this show together and we love him in spite of him and look at him there. Do you look at him as he sleeps there on the couch

and look at him with a gore? He's adorable. Him snuggling his head up into his nose. It was a little cute. He is cute. Yeah, he is and that's how he gets away with being just generally rotten to his core. At least on Mondays.

Tuesdays, he's a little bit better. Just an awful man. Yeah, so we have that to look forward to. Tuesdays generally is strongest day. Because Greg Cody's here. So by comparison, he's. Poor Greg. I still feel bad about that.

He looks so old. He's old. Put that picture up one more time of Greg Cody looking older than he has ever looked.