The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The 52% Beatles Guy

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

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This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. ["The Music City"] All right, so I've been told that Nashville is the music city. We've had this conversation before. I'm not a big fan of live music, but Nashville is supposed to is the music city. We've had this conversation before. I'm not a big fan of live music, but Nashville is supposed to be the music city, right? So you would think that if you go to a Nashville event,

you're gonna get some fine music. Not apparently if you go to a Nashville Predators game, you might get an anthem like this. ["Predators Game"] like this. ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light what so proudly we hailed.

How did that get approved? Like, do they not vet things? Or are they just like, all right, this guy looks like he's got a jersey on. You said vet, I think he was a vet. I'm gonna look it up, but I think he was a vet. Great anthem, love it. You got some leeway on that. Gotta let him rock. Thank you for your service, sir.

Incredible anthem. Let him rock. I'm still gonna push back here. Really? Like, there has to be another qualification. Just on his face, you don't think that if you were at that game, you wouldn't love that? That was f***ing sick. What? Play it again. This is ridiculous. You don't think that if you were at that game, you wouldn't love that? That was sick.

What? Play it again. This is ridiculous. You don't know what song it is. What beat is that? Oh, can you see by the dawn's early light? What so proudly we hailed That guy's never played the bongo before

Someone just handed it like, hey, this is how you're doing it A really fast beat for that song That I don't, I don't, I'm not a bongo player Although bongo does sing Yes you are, everybody is Yeah, I guess you're right I love the stadium when they do the thing where it's like they put a picture of a bongo and everyone's playing Yeah, that's an instrument for the bongos isn't that a very like afro?

Like I would have assumed Yeah, it felt like a person to playing the bongos Authentically would have had a little bit more to them history of the bongo a little bit more to him. History of the bongo. Bongos, a pair of open bottom drums, originated in Afro-Cuban culture in the late 19th century. Just sing it, man. Like the singing's not terrible.

Especially if you're playing the bongos, his voice is great for someone who's also simultaneously playing the bongos. I think where Charlie was going with this was not arguing whether he's good at it or bad at it If you go to an event, would you rather just have a normal anthem? Or would you rather have be at the one game where this guy plays the bongo? This is interesting and I would be laughing if I was in the arena

I wouldn't be angry about it, but it's just one of those things of like I something fell through the cracks here Like whoever's in charge of the production there was definitely like, all right, the person under them got a strongly worded email the next day. The best part about it was there was an intermission interview, they were playing the Ducks, and one of the Ducks players were like, you guys got a slow start, yeah, the bongo anthem

really threw us off a little bit. Is that better or worse than the Fergie anthem? You remember the All-Star game with Fergie anthem you remember the all-star game Yeah, top of the heap. It's better. You think it's better a way better way better because the expectation for Fergie was that it would be just That person went into it like hey, this is a run-of-the-mill national anthem and you know what song she's singing Yeah, time you get a platinum artist. Of course musically they're gonna do something where we're not gonna make any headlines We're good here the Fergie anthem remix that the Warriors played in their locker room was awesome.

Apparently she was not happy about that. Or her ex-husband. Ex-husband was complaining, still standing for her. It's a tough moment. Oh, they still believe it was good. That's right. I don't think they believe it's good. I think that they are like,

I'm an artist. I want to make it my own. Wanted to make it, you know, hey, you put the art out there and you let the people decide. No, they're not letting the people decide. The people have decided. They've decided. That was hard.

Overwhelmingly. It was a dream on Smile for me. Where do we stop with the national anthem? At what version of the national anthem is it like, hey, let's. I feel like we might have gotten there with this bongo. Yeah. If I go up there and just start rapping the national anthem, what's...

Like beatboxing like you would in class. And I'm dead, dead-ass serious the whole time. It's not beatboxing. It's a lunch table beat. Oh yeah, beatboxing with a mouth. Billy, you looked at me crazy when I said that. Well, I was trying to figure out where are you doing it. Yeah. Like what arena are you doing it in?

Let's make this happen. We can get you at a heat game. Because I think that... Somewhere where it you doing it yeah like what arena are you doing it let's make this happen we can get you a heat game because I think that somewhere where it's like it doesn't fit like hmm Pittsburgh paints arena for a penguin Utah yeah are you doing that as a jazz game then maybe just minor league baseball wouldn't fly yeah I say you do it in Canada turn the crowd turn the cuz they're gonna be doing either way so. I say you do it in Canada. Turn the crowd, turn the cause they're going to be going either way. So maybe if like, you do something different with it, they're like, wait, at first I wanted to boo this guy, but his ambition, when everybody's waving and I get them started right here first,

when I saw you say glare, you gotta have a hype man. You gotta have a hype man along with it. And I volunteer Mike. Just bring Bustarhyde. Oh, say can you see when I'm in the room. He just starts going in. You're a speed rapper? And you gotta get away, get away, get away. And the bombs are away, and away, and away.

That would be the best National Anthem ever. Bustarhyde's National Anthem. Like ten seconds long. I don't know how much time Hawk needs to prepare, but I feel like he's got it in him. I feel like he's got a Busta Rhymes national anthem in him at some point. Look at me now, Virg. Come on. That's gold, man. Yeah, well speaking of music and art, there's a Beatles movie coming out, right, Mike?

There's four. There's four Beatles movies. Coming out? They each get one? There's a Beatles movie coming out, right Mike? There's four, there's four Beatles movies coming out. Coming out? They each get one? Yeah, each member of the Beatles, they're all gonna be directed by Sam Mendes, accomplished director. What? Accomplished director did American Beauty.

They're gonna have, it's basically the Beatleverse. And four movies are gonna all come out in April of 2028. It's being touted as the first ever bingeable theater experience. They're all gonna be in April of 2028. It's being touted as the first ever bingeable theater experience. They're all gonna be in each other's movies, but the focus will be on Paul's movie on Paul, and so on and so forth. I gotta start with Ringo.

No one's goin' that fourth one this year. Ringo is played by Barry Keegan, who's long since been rumored to it to be attached to this project. This has been something that's been talked about for several years now in Hollywood. Sam Mendes taking on the Beatles, but doing an individual movie for each member.

They finally announced the full cast today and the release of 2028. Now I don't know if it's all coming out the very same release date. It would make sense to stagger them a little bit, but all four movies are gonna come out the same month. That is a plan right now. This is very ambitious filmmaking.

I love the concept. More for Netflix though. It's a very Netflix-y streamer type of idea. We've never really tried this in the theaters, but I kind of like that the theaters are trying to hop aboard the ambition train. And Sam Mendes doesn't really make streaming films. This is a big time cinematic, very accomplished director.

It's the Beatles. They're literally the biggest thing ever when it comes to music. So it's going to be from the same time period from all of their different perspectives, potentially? I don't know if it's going to focus on the same time period. Chris is reading the article right now. I don't know if it's going to time hop a little bit.

I mean, it's the Beatles. They went through, famously, several different eras. But their stories are gonna very clearly be intertwined. I love it. I think this is super dope. Are you a Beatles guy or you just love the concept generally? I love the concept and I probably am like 52% a Beatles guy. Oh.

Yeah, my mom bought the Beatles one album when I was younger and we just, we played it off the hook, man. And so I just learned all the music of that album, specifically. Did you guys see the show on Netflix a couple years ago called Kaleidoscope? Yeah, I did. So like Kaleidoscope was kinda like this,

where it was like a heist movie, and there was like eight or nine episodes or whatever it was, and there was no order to watch them in. Cause each one was focusing on what happened, and depending on which order to watch them in because each one was focusing on what happened and Depending on which order you watched it in you would believe different things based on how the story that's pretty cool unfolded That's kind of like the last season of Arrested Development on Netflix when they like brought it back And then they gave you the perspective of each character nobody else saw it

I can tell you like this is all right guys are you guys are very surprised that my my whiteness Beatles and watching the rest of it Sorry me a little bit thing about Arrested Development is like you also played the bongos earlier You canceled it you brought it back then it was on Netflix And there was like a long break in between and then like you watch and you're like I don't remember what's going on and I watched it to watch it because I felt like I needed to have some closure.

But then there were times where I'm like, I'm watching this just to watch it. Like to say that I watched the whole thing. That was my experience with it. I want to go back. The OGs are still the best ones. But from a filmmaking perspective, I don't know how they're going to go about shooting this.

It seems like a nightmare to edit because like, well, we're in this, we're in this, we built this set for the Ringo part, but you know, John, this is a big part of John. So I assume they're going to have their own perspective of the very same scene. Yeah. And like it's a very ambitious project to take off. All right, I'm throwing you a bit of a curve ball right now,

but for somebody like me who's like, I'm aware of the Beatles. There's some songs that like are good or fine, but I'm throwing you a bit of a curve ball right now, but for somebody like me who's like, I'm aware of the Beatles, there's some songs that are good, are fine, but I'm not a Beatles guy. Put that on your bio. I'm aware. How many folks are aware of the Beatles? I'm aware of the Beatles, but my parents didn't play Beatles

when I was young. Okay. Lots of people have told me, hey, you gotta listen to Beatles, they'll give me a song. Like, yeah, that thing is dope, but most of them, I think a lot of the Beatles stuff was so influential that it doesn't feel special now. It might have felt special at the time, but I'm like, yeah, it sounds like a lot of music

that I've seen, but people who really appreciate, a lot of music I've heard, but people who really appreciate the Beatles will say that it's because music was so influenced by them. But what I want from you is some help at giving me some sports comps for each individual Beatle. Because I know that like I heard off the top, we're not excited about the Ringo movie. Like he's the least-

He's just clearly the fourth. Yeah, Ringo's very clearly the- The drummer. The fourth and not, probably won't make for the most interesting movie. And you know, people have taken shots at his musical ability and what not. But the George one will be interesting. Ringo's like Michael from Boys Demand.

Well, if I gave a comp, you know, he was the one. No longer surprised at your whiteness. Thank you. I'm just trying to, I'm bilingual in that way. I was looking for a sports comp, but that's a good non-sports comp. Well, it's hard because it would have to be, I'm trying to get sports comps from the same era.

Doesn't have to be from the same era, it could be anywhere, so I'm trying to get like a crash course and understanding the dynamics in these people and these characters. And I know like Paul seems like he's the most like famous and affable and. But it only feels that way because he's been around. Oh.

You know? In your life, you haven't... John would probably be the more famous of the two. Most talented. Really? If he were around, still, he'd probably be the most revered? I don't know. You have John Lennon and Paul McCartney who are the top two.

George Harrison, resentful of them two, thinks he could have been one of the top guys, but clearly the third. Is he delusional, is he more talented? No, he's pretty talented. So he could have been, so he's right, he could have been. George had a great single career. So John Lennon, a little bit like maybe Derrick Rose? Len Bias? No, not Len Bias.

Len Bias is a crazy guy. I don't think anybody's asking what could have been. His legacy was kind of cemented. It's just like, if he were still around right now, he'd be ultra revere. So he would be the best of them. I think so. People think John Lennon is the best.

But we might think that if Paul had died and John was dead, we might think that about Paul. So Paul's whole thing is he's just alive. Are you calling Paul a compiler? A what? A compiler? I'm saying that our perception's saying. And Ringo's just chilling. Ringo's still alive. He's just like, he's just alive. Are you calling Paul a compiler? A life compiler? I'm just livin'. I'm not saying it's his whole thing.

And Ringo's just chillin'. Ringo's still alive, he's just like, he's Ringo. I think our perceptions of Paul would kinda, I think Paul and John were like neck and neck. So if Paul had gone earlier and John was still here, I think we might, I don't know, I don't know. I get one A, one B. I wish your dad were here to get his perspective because he was around when it was going on.

He was. I get the sense that John feels more like an artist and that might also be, I get that sense because of the Yoko connection is like he feels more like a free spirit artist and Paul comes off more as a guy who had the art in him but understood the commerce. Paul was the one that everyone kind of liked,

and he wrangled the group. Hey, come on in, guys, let's do this. Let's do another album. I feel like we're pissing people off. If he had the option, do you think Paul would change places with John to switch legacies? I think he'd rather be a legacy swap. Would I rather be assassinated?

Well, but he could have the legacy of John. Legacy-wise. But he wouldn't be a serf. Paul has a but he could have the legacy of Jon. Legacy-wise. But he wouldn't be a serf. Paul has a great legacy. But his legacy is great. He's Paul McCartney. How about Ringo? Would he switch places with Jon?

Ringo, Ringo, my friend. Now I like this first take topic. That's something to chew on, my friend. Would Ringo have taken Jon's exact path? Because this whole thing is he's the disrespected beetle. I'm sure that act has worn thin on him a little bit. taking John's exact path. Because this whole thing is he's the disrespected beetle. I'm sure that act has worn thin on him a little bit. He sounds the most like a beetle as well.

You guys are asking the questions of people who asked you about the beetles. Is that John? That's one of them. I think you sneaky limited fake bag is awfully deep. You hit us with some yesterday. Oh, the Sammy one? Your Samson one was elite yesterday. best impersonation is is Jay Gruden

oh Robert Kirk very nice but it is Robert Kirk and someone who again that was my officer coordinator he dropped that on me one time bro you all almost crap my pants would Ringo change places with George? Because George also Assassinated George was around a little bit longer. Yeah, they'll cover this in the movie hmm I like the the Beatles verse version of this though I do think that's really cool And I would imagine in production what they'll do is they'll have their individual tracks of filming

But all the scenes that do overlap they'll just knock them out in the same setting, right? Like just all of it. Do you think they're gonna have arguments and it'll be like portrayed in one way from John's perspective? It'll be great. And it'll be like a totally different experience for Paul?

That's the best part, because like when two people come into an argument, you never see the buildup leading to it, so like you said with Kaleidoscope, like we'll have a completely different thought process getting to that point. I'm just now imagining the Ringo movie where like, Ringo, I got some rough news for you, John. It's been assassinated. It's like, oh, why couldn't it be me?

And then like years later, like Ringo, bad news, George has like, oh, yeah. When's my turn? His whole movie. That's crazy. I'm still alive. This is a message from sponsor Intuit Turbo Tax. Taxes was waiting and wondering and worrying if you were going to get any money back,

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["The Stugarts Show Theme"] Some of the news that's come out of the meeting at the breakers for the NFL owners is not all that riveting right now But some of the video I've really enjoyed have you guys seen the Mike Tomlin video where he's answering a question. I think about Aaron Rodgers he's answering that question, but the answer to question doesn't matter as much as the visuals I don't know if anyone's seen that I have not he looks super sweaty is this audio guys. Let's play this we got it ready He's a free agent He came to visit last Friday listening really productive day He's been in this thing a long time. I've been in this thing a long time

But there's no substitute for intimacy and spending time together and getting to know one another in a non-competitive environment. So that was really good, but I don't have any new updates in terms of where the process is, we'll see what leads us. There's a lot more to it. He is glistening. He doesn't even say anything

that's super interesting in there, it's just pretty straightforward about Aaron Rodgers He's the best at saying absolutely nothing like absolutely nothing But like to the point that you're like I run through a wall for this guy saying absolutely nothing like he's right And and then if you like sit back and think like what is he right about? I don't know but he's right This is not outside It's a hell of a skill. I was I was wondering if we didn't have the sound. What would I think this person is talking about?

Because his shirt is not sweaty, but his face and whole thing is all drenched. Like, the first thing that came to my mind was that this would be someone if their girl was like, you left your phone open. This is now someone trying to explain to them what they were. The key and pill meme, where the sweat just starts. I think that him coming from Pittsburgh

to Palm Beach, Florida, isn't that where the meetings are? Oh, that's true. Come on, man. I moved down here two years ago and I could not figure out for the life of me how you humans down here survived. Like once it gets hot, and it's like, yo, I don't feel like your body is meant to sweat

as much as you just get normalized into doing. And I think for Mike T, this is just day one, Palm Beach, like, okay, someone let the door open. Everyone else is like, oh, it's not too bad. And he's like, what the hell is going on here? This is just crazy. Mike Tomlin still says nothing as good as anyone ever in history.

But I think this, not to reach back to the Taylor Jenkins thing, but that's a huge value. That's where my mind was going. Like, he should take notes. And this is, we try to figure out how valuable or how good a coach Mike Tomlin is. And we often focus on the X's and O's on the field. And for Mike Tomlin, we all appreciate that focus on the X's and O's on the field.

And for Mike Tomlin, we all appreciate that he's able to have all these super talented players who are mercurial, I guess. I don't know, I've tried to find a nice way to characterize so many of the players that have played for them and played well for them and not survived elsewhere. But that also, the idea that you can deliver something

and no matter what it is, people won't give it a time a day just because the way that you deliver it is with so much. You were teammates with Ray Lewis. I do know, I do know. I'd run through a wall for Ray. Ray and it was all nonsense. Utter nonsense. We played Ray in 2011.

How much did you lose? We needed to win to get into the playoffs and we did it. But I had a couple of catches late in the game that some big third downs. I think I finished the game maybe with 36 yards receiving. But you didn't care about that because you only wanted to win. Not really because it was like you know you're in that young position where it's like do I want the season to keep going? I actually have a question. Can we hit pause on that? where it's like, do I want the season to keep going? Right? I actually have a question. Can we hit pause on that?

Yeah, sure. You guys played each other. Did we? In the league. I don't know. We're asking you. You were in the same division. We were, but it's like.

I know you were inside, and Dominique was on the outside. Yeah, I mean, I told my ACL, so we may not have played. You don't think there was ever a time where you guys shared a football field? That's interesting, considering how much time you spent in the division. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Well, I mean, I do know. There's 2,000 guys. Let's chat, GPG. I do know that we won if we played each other. Yeah, likely. Safe bet. All right, unpause. I think one of them knows, and the one that knows

is the one that lost the battle. That's what's going on here. And I don't know which one is lying, but one of them has been curious. I do not remember going against Dominique Fox, or Indio. You may not remember, but one of them has been curious. I do not remember going against Dominique Foxworth. You may not remember, but one of you has definitely looked this up at some point in time and didn't like the results,

and that's why we're both pretending we don't know if we played a champion. I know I went against almost exclusively, like 100% of the snaps against Liderius Webb. I know that to be a fact. Yeah, yeah. Because he was the slot corner. Because you remember, because.

Well, because I coached him before I got to the NFL, so he would call me coach on the field. That is incredibly disrespectful. While jamming you to the sideline. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Webb was nice, boy. That is incredibly disrespectful. Webb was nice, boy.

Webb was nice. He came in as a safety. I love him. They moved him to the slot. Eventually he played outside corner. Webb was giving you that work. If you ask Webb, who did he not like to go against the most?

That's because he felt bad about roughing his mincer up. That's what I was gonna say, like if you ever did anything against him, he'd be like, oh good job. Mr. Biyabi in that thing. He's gotta say coach. He really was calling me coach. I asked Chachi PT if Dominique Foxworth

and Andrew Hawkins ever played a game against one another in the NFL. The answer was no, because Dominique played corner in the NFL from 2005 to 2011, before retiring due to injuries. Hawkins entered the league in 2011, while their careers briefly overlapped in 2011, Dominique was dealing with injuries,

and only played two games that season before retiring. So they never faced each other in an actual NFL game. There's the answer. Chad GBT finally gets one right. We weren't lying, Billy. No, man. It's fine. We would've told it if it happened.

Because one of the things that I think that you don't recognize about us is if I knew that I gave Hawk that word. Oh yeah. We would've let the show win. That's why I thought that you were lying. Yeah. I also thought you were lying.

Oh yeah, I would've kicked it off day one. Remember that time? This pivotal game. Coming into the way back machine. There is one way that we can fire it back up. Oh man. Finally get the answer. Tony will be quarterback, there won't be an actual ball.

I feel good about, I feel really good about. Show us all footwork, baby. I got that one, I'm gonna swing down, swipe it. I got that one, I feel really good about my test. You can run back a big six. Both running in opposite directions, scoring a touchdown with an imaginary ball. I got that one, no you didn't, that's how it is.

I can't wait to do it now. I was saying there's no way you guys could talk me into trying to do anything athletic, but hey, if we get Tony out there with no ball, I'm down. I'm like, oh no, tipped at the line. Just an edge zone fade. Yup, I got tipped at the line. The story I was gonna get to was I didn't do that much.

And then after the game, Ray gave me a speech about two inches away from my nose, like, you're a goddamn warrior, you understand me? I love the way you play. And I was like, I guess it's very intense. And so I was like, yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. But I walked away being like, I don't know, I don't feel like I did anything that important, I'm not sure if he knows exactly who I was like, yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. But I walked away being like, I don't know. I don't feel like I did anything that important.

I'm not sure if he knows exactly who I was. I feel like he's mistaken me for somebody else that might've made a couple of plays in that game. Who on the Browns? I don't know, man. Or it just felt like a random, a random speech in a game that didn't warn a speech. It would be like yesterday, after game one,

me just like, again, nose to nose in y'all. And it was very, he's a very close talker. Cause he's, I think he recognizes who he is and the value of his words. And I think that he probably thought in that moment that you in a situation, you had talent and you're on a team that is not very good, that this guy is obviously good.

And it wasn't just from that game. I imagine it was from film study also. And he was like, before we leave here, this guy who's obviously fighting to get in the league and stay in the league and show his worth and is on his team that could be demoralized, I'ma give him a word. Right, and I think that's a, it sounds,

as I get older, I recognize things that a younger me thought was stupid, but a younger me would be like, the content matters more than the delivery. So wrong. And I wouldn't say it was stupid. I loved it. It was really, it's Ray freaking Lewis, man.

Like it wasn't like, but I'm just trying to like, contextualize it to myself. Like, you didn't do anything that great though. So, much love to Ray. I'm telling you what happened. And his ability to motivate, which is kind of the point of the story. It's pretty obvious that through the week of practice,

he saw this one guy on the team that is working really hard, that's doing, making plays in spite of what's challenging around him. And then he played in the game and they probably beat you. And he was like, where is that kid Hawk that stood out on film? That kid probably needs a word from Reverend Ray to keep it going.

And it hit you with it. Would you ever avoid Ray because you didn't want a speech at that moment? Nah, you never, I mean, so he always speaks in speeches and you never avoid Ray because it's either inspirational or funny. Like it's not a bad thing. Ray's the coolest dude to be around, very intense.

But I think the thing that I could have learned from him that I didn't was that it's so much more in certain situations, or the delivery matters, if not more, as much as the content in certain situations. And I would always think that, but it's what you say that matters. But like, no, sometimes it's about getting their attention and make sure they're in front of you.

I mean, throughout the history of American politics, it's often how you say things. What's the best compliment you ever received from an opponent? Best compliment you ever received from an opponent? I don't know. Did Jerry Rice compliment you as you ended his career? No, Jerry Rice didn't like me you as you ended his career No Jerry Rice didn't like me because you ended his career. So Jerry Jerry my um rookie year and

Denver Jerry Rice came to camp with us. He ended up retiring before the season started, but it was Like I grew up watching Jerry Rice. I love Jerry Rice is my brother's favorite player That's why and so my first rep in training camp was against Jerry Rice in one-on-one How old was Jerry Rice 40 plus that's crazy Yeah As someone who just debated all day about what we could do and could not do athletically the thought of being in a training camp The way I feel now feels well of the utmost ridiculous Jerry Rice was not participating. Yeah, but he's Jerry Rice. Yeah. So like you're, you're okay. Jerry, right. Okay.

That's the greatest receiver of all time. My bad. You won one football game in two seasons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good call. That was the last one was the necessary. All of them lead up to it. That was not factual. I let it go because you could market at this point to be so historically bad. How big a game? That it's a calling card. I only was a part of the first season, technically.

Okay, I got you. But I digress. Where, that was the one where they won no games? We were one in 15. The following year they were 0-16. So take that. Yeah. Buddy.

He wasn't there for that. Unless you think this show's the only example of getting worse, show over show. How dare you. Cleveland Browns followed up a one win season with a zero win season. Yeah. So yeah, Jerry came,

and Jerry's camp experience was different because you know, you're a vet at that point. Camp for us was like, look, I gotta show y'all I can play every single snap of every day for two whole practices. Jerry Rice, they knew like what you're capable of. We needed to see like how much of it he had. I gotta show y'all I can play every single snap of every day for two whole practices. Jerry Rice, they knew what you're capable of. We needed to see how much of it he could bring to the table

and they determined that it wasn't enough. But Jerry was not Jerry Rice and so my first rep, I won it and I was so hyped. Go ahead, sorry. Don't apologize. Hey man, we gotta take shots. I think. You're afraid to touch the button?

This is one of those games where you gotta just put them up and see where it lands. Now you know where that button is. Hold off the late rally, come on. We gotta Jerry Rice story. Did I do it? Yeah, the best thing about Jerry Rice, he's incredibly cool as you would expect him to be,

being the greatest receiver of all time. But the greatest thing about Jerry Rice, he was incredibly cool, as you would expect him to be, being the greatest receiver of all time. But the greatest thing about it, training camp, it was, we had the like off-season stuff, and so we were there together for a long time. And so we would go to the club, and Jerry would go with us. And it was crazy in and of itself. Like we're gonna just breeze over that, but we'll come back to it.

Go ahead. That's crazy. 40 years old in the club with you as a rookie, 21, 40 plus. So it was like. Never makes sense, no matter the context, but go ahead. The whole team was like, hey, we're going out. And like you're part of the team, you go out, right?

So anyway, Jerry, we was in early 2000, so we all were in oversized clothes. And Jerry was in a fit that was probably killing him in the 80s and would probably kill him right now. Because like the tight, it was tight, buttons, only a few buttons button in a skinny chain. But we were in an era where everything was baggy, monster change, and so we walk into the club,

Jerry is in the 80s cooking him. And we all in 2000 looking at Jerry like, why he dressed like that? But really he was the freshest one of all of us in like a silk button down with his chest hair out and a tiny gold chain. Like if you had a picture of that night right now, he would be the only one.

Yeah, we all would be looking like. He has sense, what the hell are y'all doing? You remember how ridiculously big our clothes were? 4X bro, I never looked at the jean size. Now again, me five seven, I would walk into a store, I would just pick up whatever pair of jeans and buy it. Never looked at the tab, it did not matter the size of it. Because that, there was no downside to it.

Hey, my belts was getting work, boy. The belts was, ugh. The braided belts? Oh, yeah, because you had to pull it so tight. I couldn't have a belt with holes in it. In that braided joint, I would get size 38 pants, which like, I wear 32, 33. Bags, man.

Put them on, super tight, and I thought I was killing them with a baggy throwback on. I remember when I had all the jerseys, like going out of high school, I had a bunch of jerseys and I had like one authentic jersey. That thing was fresh. The rest of it was a replica with a little screen printed on it. I had like a red Tiki Barber that I thought was cold because it was red. I was like, what are you doing with a Tiki Barber? He was not cool because it was red. It's like, what are you doing? He was not an exciting player. He's a good player.

But I had a Tiki Barber jersey on it just because of the colors. The more niche the player, the more respect you got. I had a- Yes, Joe Jerovicious. Check me, my boy. You see me out here shining. Joe Jerovicious.

Hawk, what's the best compliment you receive from an opponent? You're cute You're a good looking guy Thank you Did it come from a handsome dude? Nah, I don't know, I don't remember But you left there feeling good about yourself? Yeah, I'm okay, man. Did you, were you, I regret this about me, but towards my entire career

I was a get off the field as soon as possible guy. Like I wasn't a hang out shake hands guy. Win or lose It was like games over. I'm in there. So like that was the time for compliments Like I would participate in all the trash talking fighting and in the game and that sort of stuff But the time for like, oh yeah, whatever, we get up in the off-season, blah, blah. I wasn't, I ain't had time for that shit. I went going to the locker room. I didn't go to a big enough school to have enough

family and that sort of thing. Yeah, I think that was probably it too. You know what I'm saying? So it's not like guys I grew up playing against in the league, you know, it was like. Where's Skradkowski? Yeah, it was like nine Mac players, you know? And even then we probably don't even remember each other,

because I can't believe you're here. Although since. I can't believe, we can't believe either one of us is here. You guys have put guys in the league since. No, for sure. Now it's all good. But also if you're a free agent, if you're going in a free agency, that's when you stick around. You go shake every coach's hand and you also, it's like, they need to know the personality. It's almost like combine interviews after every game. No jersey swaps for you? Hell no. No jersey swaps. That wasn't a thing when they were in the league. the personality, it's almost like combine interviews after every game. No jersey swaps for you?

Hell no, no jersey swaps. That wasn't a thing when they were really. That wasn't a thing in our era. Really? Well at the end of my era it was. It's a newer thing? But you had to be really good back then. Back then you had to be good to jersey swap.

There's people watching a Champions League final in the World Cup like, hey let's. Yeah, I think. It's always funny watching football players do that because they have to like, Yeah. Pads, and they're like, all of a sudden they're completely almost naked to take off you need somebody

to help you yank it off and you just yeah I was gonna say they charge you for it too right like every juror you're talking to the person like I'm gonna spend like 400 bucks on this person yeah no you I did get denied for a jersey swap oh really yeah by Steve Smith nice Steve Smith that's a good one. Yeah He just You asked I thought you made that seem like Hey sup, nah That went from being awesome to sad. Yeah, no way I'm a big Steve Smith fan as you would imagine growing up

You know that also played with my brother and it was like one game I had really good game against the Ravens and I just did what you did. I went inside. So then we played the Ravens the second time and in pre-game he like cussed me out. Like, hey motherf- I played with your brother, you don't ever go in without saying what's up with- and he was being dead serious, right? So I'm like, all right, cool. So the next couple times we played, I dapped up. And then my last year, it was like, yo, can I get the jersey? And it was like, nah. So.

That is great. But I think it was because he had like, this is what at least I qualified in my mind. He had like the special jersey that he made where you had the hand warmer in the jersey. He was like, no bro, I'm not gonna get another one of these done up. And again, at least that's how I qualified it in my mind

of why that happened. That's right, it's impossible to get one of them hand warmer jerseys. Yeah, I mean. Those are hard to come by. Especially in Carolina, it's hot down there. Yeah, no, it was, you know. They certainly wouldn't make it for Steve Smith or whatever.

No, they told him beginning of the or They told him beginning here you got one Better bleach that don't even think about swapping this you know I'm saying Ever see Smith clip ever when it was NFL films. It was a playoff game, and he was just sitting next to the Delome He's like I never liked you as a quarterback Like he was a person you're fine, but this quarterback you're bad bad. And DeLonge just sitting there like, yeah, yeah. I think my favorite Steve Smith story ever was that one. Yeah. Steve Smith's great, man.

We had him on our show a while ago, and we were anticipating, I guess it was like a year ago, or something. It was amazing. He came on to do scouting reports of NFL draft receivers. And then I asked a couple questions, and then we ended up having a therapy session and I was like Charlie Did we just talk about feelings with Steve Smith for an hour?

It was it was actually really interesting and incredible, but it wasn't what we were anticipating They talked about parenting anger management where he's at in his life right now And I was just like so you think Marvin Harrison jr. Is gonna be the Hall of Famer That's crazy because he's one of my favorite players ever most underrated receiver in NFL history in my opinion It's gonna be the Hall of Famer. Where are we going with this? Maserati Marv. That's crazy because he's one of my favorite players ever. Most underrated receiver in NFL history in my opinion. Pound for pound, one of the greatest we've ever seen. Steve Smith was a guy that like would, when I played against him,

a couple times I played against him, it was he would check you in the first quarter. It's like, what type of game is this gonna be? Am I gonna be able to bully this person? Are they gonna fight back? It was first quarter situation, you hit him back, he's like, all right, we can do this, but if you don't, you are in for it.

Long day for you. I have an update on the Tomlin situation. I'm being told that the coach's photo was inside this year because of rain, so it could be a rain situation. There's no rain on his shirt. Yeah, his shirt's not wet. All right, I'm just like, you know,

there's some people just- Look at that man. Just making sure, just don't wanna, I don't wanna be calling him sweaty if it's because of rain. Well, to Hawk's point, it's 37 degrees today in Pittsburgh. Like he's not coming from, yeah. His body's not acclimating. It's like a 60 degree difference. Plus that looks like a schvitz.

Yeah, man. But it's not on his shirt either, much like the rain isn't on his shirt. I was looking for sweat remnants dripping down that. That shirt certainly looks like it would pick up the sweat. It looks like it also could have been in the rain, that shirt. But rain doesn't like, rain doesn't sit on the feet.

It doesn't like that way. You don't wipe rain. Oh, you don't wipe up with rain. And he's not standing outside with his mouth open wide. When the rain's falling down your head down The upward wipe yeah, that is not with that's never been only with sweat. You know what he needs. He needs a tailor He needs a tailor headband We got to send him so this man got on a Nike you got a Nike shorts shorts, Nike shirt, and what's that K-Mart?

Generic headband? You don't even got a check? They was like, so they said, yes, you can have the uniform, Taylor. You gotta go find your own headband, man. And he's not sweating at all. Mike Tomlin, who's sitting down is sweating way more than Taylor, who is running maybe up to 800 meters. Mike Tomlin

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