The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Face Reveal
Episode Date: April 25, 2024We finally get to Mero's Refrans Del Dia and see if Taylor can pass as a Dominican. Then, JuJu delivers today's Thursday Thunder and we listen to a snippet from Joakim Noah on this week's South Beach ...Sessions to show the way athletes care. Plus, folks...we have a Face/Off 2 in the works. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast.
The mics hot?
Now they are.
All right, Dan, count us back in.
They've been hot.
Yeah.
As soon as you got here, isn't that the way that works with you?
You get in and mics get hot.
Just keep them hot all the time.
You didn't answer my question though.
If I made you sort of rank it on how it is
that you felt about the, you're down five
with 28 seconds left.
You believe in this team.
I believe this team is gonna break your heart
because I fear that the Celtics are better
than everyone in the conference.
But what you saw last night reinforces the notion
that poor Zengis might not be trusted in that spot.
No, not at all.
The durability of a hymen is what my brother says.
Exactly, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Juju for calling me.
Thank you.
You know what I'm saying?
Since Slu's not here, Juju's getting all the thank yous
today.
But last night wasn't a durability problem.
It's that he was in the post with guys
that were nine inches shorter than him
and he wasn't passing out of it to create
The threes or even making the turnaround jumpers that they needed him to make you know I'm saying
Durability is a compound word part of that word is ability
You know I'm saying so his durability and his ability but the do the do the do
Durability you know saying because he's out there catching a bull in the post looking like Jesus on the cross,
and you know what I mean, you got a five, six guy on you
and you're not making nothing happen.
So what are you doing, Chris Stapps?
You know what I mean?
So hey, you know, maybe Phil Jackson was wrong, okay?
I delight in saying that.
Phil Jackson, you were wrong, okay, if you're still alive.
I don't know if you are, I'm sorry.
Whoa, that'd be a $50 fine if you just killed Phil Jackson.
He's still with us. He was asking me. He's still with us, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. I just had to Google it, you know what I'm saying? if you are. I'm sorry. Whoa, that'd be a $50 fine if you just killed Phil Jackson. He's still with us
He was asking. I just had to Google it. You know what I'm saying? That's why
Who is the most hated figure who is Nick's history?
According to you like in terms of a because Phil Jackson would be pretty high on the lip falling asleep on the subway
Yeah, trying to do the Pat Riley thing lazy. Yes
subway, trying to do the Pat Riley thing lazy. Yes, that guy's so lame, God.
But honestly, it's funny, I had this conversation last night,
like poolside over many, many, many villains.
It's Mike, man.
It's Michael Jordan, dog.
If you're a real Knicks fan and you grew up,
and you were young, because I was young in the 90s.
I was like junior high, elementary school.
So Mike broke my heart every year.
So he is like the ultimate villain
because unlike Reggie Miller,
unlike Alonzo Mourning, all those other guys,
we could beat them.
It's like, yo, you're beating these guys.
You have a chance.
With Mike, it was like, ah man, now we gotta,
it's Thanos now.
But I was talking to you about like in-house,
somebody who did damage to your organization
from inside the house.
From inside the house?
Yeah, because Phil Jackson, when you mentioned Phil Jackson,
I was thinking about where Knicks fans will get rabid on.
You fouled all this up.
Phil Jackson, bro.
It was Pat, it was like a bunch of guys,
it was a bunch of different front office people,
like just doing dumb stuff,
but it is undoubtedly Phil Jackson.
You know why?
Frank Nilekina, dog.
You wasted a lottery pick on Frank
mother nila Kena my guy you know I'm saying you did that and for that I will
never forgive you that is a forever wound in my spleen dog I don't even say
heart like it was my liver you know I'm saying of another vital organ like he
deflated one of my lungs with that pick asshole
do you guys have a refrain del dia you said you have one here for
no no no no oh and you're going not cuban this time you're Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
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Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! This is what we're gonna do. We usually do. With Crypto, with Yuju, with Miguel, with Tony, with Jessica.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody's here, damn it.
Ready.
So instead of doing a cubified thing as we usually do,
my Dominican brothers here,
we're gonna do it Dominican style.
So I'm not even gonna give him one.
I'm gonna give him a bunch, rapid fire,
and he's gonna explain to the crew
and explain to the world what these things mean
or what he likes out of these things.
So we'll start here.
Que lo que.
Ah, que lo que, bro.
Ah, I love it, I love it.
Que lo que works.
Also, if you are, if you look Dominican,
but you're not, you could get away with anything.
If you just be like, que lo que.
You walk into a party, you don't know nobody.
Get okay, hey, get okay, hey, way.
And you just throw a way after it, away, get okay.
But smiling a point like, you know what I mean?
Like Will Smith in the Miami video where he's like,
hey, people are like, hey, get okay, clean them.
And you can connect with anyone from there, right?
Second one, this one you have to explain because there's levels to it.
I call it niveles de vaina.
T.
Explain what vaina is
and how you can use it in certain ways.
Vaina is literally an all purpose word, bro.
You know how in like when you coming up,
I don't know about the Florida education system,
but New York, my teachers used to be like,
yo, don't use the word nice.
You know what I'm saying?
Cause that's a dumb ass word.
Like it means nothing.
It means everything and nothing all at once.
You know what I'm saying?
So that to me is vaina.
You know what I'm saying?
But in a good way, not in a bad way.
Like dame esa vaina.
Dame esa vaina.
E quala tu vaina, Daniel?
Isn't coño in Cuban, sort of an all purpose word?
The same sort of all purpose, like you can use it 17 different ways.
You can't explain to anybody what all of them mean.
Baena in the simplest terms is that thing.
Give me that thing.
Give me that thing.
Give me that thing.
Give me that thing.
Efebreze.
Efebreze. Give me that thing. Give me that thing. Give me that thing over there. Pass me that thing. Eeeh... Eeeh... Efebreze.
Efebreze.
Pass me Efebreze.
You know what I'm saying?
That thing.
All that thing.
Who is someone that can fool you with that thing that's not Dominican but can pass?
I'm setting the bar at Tracy Morgan.
Tracy Morgan definitely.
Tracy Morgan looks like all my uncles.
That's why I love him.
You know what I'm saying?
That's my uncle.
Also, I was talking about this yesterday.
Daniel Senjata.
Y'all know, I know it's like, he doesn't have name,
he don't got name recognition, but if you Google him,
if you bring up a picture of Daniel Senjata,
he could be anything, dog.
He could be Dominican, he could be Puerto,
he could be middle of Eastern, he could be Sicilian.
I just Googled him, I can't believe it. You're totally right. Boom. Look at this. What are you?
Rescue me
I'm gonna bring somebody in from the outside that I think can pull you if they say okay
As we do that, they could do explain explain La Cuarentido La Cuarentido, oh baby
La Cuarentido for the real ones
La Cuarentido, if y'all
It's it's
The Wire is a classic show, right?
So I'm assuming I'm gonna go off the assumption that y'all are all familiar with the show The Wire
La Cuarentido is a healthy version of hamster damn, you know I'm saying it's just turned up all
the time okay okay
stay right there Taylor talk Nick's basketball with Marrows since you're the
secret Nick's fan that we have here. But do it in Dominican. Yeah.
Oh.
Bobby, que tu cree?
Dime.
Put him in a bad spot.
You got this, Taylor.
Impossible spot.
Just do it.
Yo, use the trick, brother.
I told you.
I just told you the trick 20 seconds ago.
Que lo que.
Que lo que.
He's a slow learner.
He's terrified.
He's a Knicks fan.
He's scared.
Como tu te sientes de los Knicks ahora mismo,
en este momento? How do you? Si the Knicks right now? I love the moment.
How do you feel?
Excellent work, Taylor. I appreciate all your help.
Also, it's all your help.
Taylor can be Dominican because you don't even have to talk if you're Dominican.
You just talk with your hands.
How do you feel about the Knicks?
So sick.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
That's where you can use Vine. A great thing.
A good thing. An incredible thing.
Tell them about Los Tres Gopes.
Oh, Los Tres Gopes.
Yo, Los Tres Gopes is wow because this is how you know.
This is why Dominicans are the best baseball players.
Because you're working against yourself when you have Tres Gopes for breakfast.
You know what I mean?
Because people don't know for that. Those of you that don for breakfast. You know what I mean? Because well people don't know for that
Yeah, those of y'all don't know I'm saying today. Gorka is a traditional Dominican breakfast that consists of mango
Which is mashed platanos aka plantains if you're born here plantains
mashed platanos green not sweet
with
salami
Frito like with salami, frito, like fried salami,
queso frito, fried cheese, and fried eggs.
You know what I'm saying?
So you eat that, bro, and that sticks to your ribs.
Well, literally translated, that's three hits, right?
So there was, bam, bam, bam.
So you're doing three terrible fried things
to your organs.
For breakfast.
Just coming out of the gate aggressively Dominican.
Aggressively Dominican at 6.45 in the morning
right before you hop in your Lincoln Town car
and get to work.
What brings you to Miami?
I did not know you were coming.
You announced it.
Not that you need excuses to come to Miami.
You like, you have been absorbing this city
for a long time.
I feel like I'm part of heat culture now.
You know what I'm saying?
It feels blasphemous to say.
You know what I mean?
But heat meaning like, cause I'm hot.
You know what I mean? I'm popping. You know, Manjaro M blasphemous to say you know I mean but heat meaning like cuz I'm hot you know I mean, I'm popping when John Romero in the building
Look at the traps. You're not answering my question. You're flexing
You know I'm saying but I'm here too
I'm doing a series with MLB and Corona called La Vida Mas Fina
Where I speak to and highlight Latino ball players, you know from around the league
The fine life the fine life, you know I'm saying last episode was with Nick Castellanos
Cubano and Loey and I'm in the bubble. You know, it's a tough win easy
Mucha gracias. I'll go shut up for the la pollo. You know I'm saying and today I will be when I leave here
I will be kicking it with Luis Reayas and from the mall is local Miami legend
We said I is you know I mean and we're gonna play the show and eat at it pass
You know what I mean then what I want to ma Dan
I don't know if I can interject here for very quick you can but refram del dia was supposed to be one phrase
No, it's too big. He's in person. It's too big
This is gonna be a either or, OK?
El Alfa or Rochy?
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Dime.
Yeah, you put me in a dime.
Oh, man.
This is like, I'm getting a bit.
Can you explain to the people at Dembeau, first off,
those are two Dembeau artists from Dominican Republic.
Can you explain who they are, why they mean so much to the country?
So El Alfa is a Dembow artist.
If you don't know what Dembow is,
Dembow is like Dominican street party music.
You know what I mean?
It has roots in like reggaeton and dance hall
and all that kind of stuff.
Can I play a little something?
Yes, please, please.
Okay, hold on.
Listen, if you're gonna play something. ["Cualidad de la Caza"]
-♪ Yo, le iba a grabar pero en baja calidad.
Que ella me dijo que no, que no está.
Es una maldita loca, una ratata.
Y ella lo que quiere es que la p*** es cuatro car,
cuatro car, cuatro car, cuatro car, cuatro car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, car, man, that's pretty good. Come on, Doc. There you go. That's a lot, Fadim. Yo, by the way, I did MLB All-Star,
and I had Bryan Cranston dancing to Dembeau.
Yo, that's a real video.
Bryan Cranston with a long ass white beard hitting the,
could you block, could you block, could you block,
at home plate.
You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Bryan.
I love that song that translates to just put it in,
take it out, put it in, take it out.
4K, 4K though. that's the most important part.
Brugal or Bacelo?
Brugal, papi, con la magia, tu sabes que cuando no hay cuarto uno bebe un puchino de lavagallo, you know what I'm saying?
Like, most people don't know what you're saying.
Brugal or Bacelo? Rum, two different rums.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and what they call la bagallo is, you know, in various Caribbean
Latin nations, they partake in cockfighting. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not talking about,
like, you know, like Don Staley versus Iowa. I'm talking about, like, two... Oh, come on, come on.
Yeah, that was a bad joke. I'm sorry. 7 p.m. in Brooklyn is the show with Carmelo Anthony.
It is every Thursday.
Stefan Marbury is this week.
That's right.
That has to be great.
Always good seeing you thrilled for your success.
My guy, let's go.
Gracias, señor.
Gracias, ade, papi.
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Alrighty, you already know where we going.
The association baby, the New York Knicks
and the Philadelphia 76ers are playing tonight in Philly.
That means the veteran presence has to step up for the Knicks.
It's going to be turbulent.
It's going to be a wild place.
I think Mick Mill is going to be there.
So I'm going with the big dog, Boyan Bogdanovich.
Seven point five points.
He's going to hit that.
I'm going over on that.
Veteran leadership, baby. What you got to say about that, Dan?
I thought that you were going to win the other day when you got the first two legs of something, and then Herb Jones,
you needed him to go 11.5 over on points, and he failed us.
Yeah, but the caveat was, if you made that bet because the 49, oh not 49, the Giants were in it,
you won instantly on Thursday.
So that was just for us.
I'm just saying you've been on a hot streak
if people are taking your bets individually.
It's been a long time since you gave an assembly,
a number of bets and had more losers
than winners inside of it.
Juju over the last, I don't know, 25 pixies made
has gotten like basically four or five wrong.
And so you've been on quite the hot streak.
I'm gonna follow you until the wheels fall off.
Oh, you just jinxed us.
But we are gonna,
now we're gonna take it to the next game,
the late game tonight, guys.
We're gonna have to stay up tonight baby.
We got Billy Gill, we got his draft show, so we're going to be up already.
So we're going with the Denver Nuggets to win the game baby.
Moneyline Denver, I think it's fool's gold.
That game we saw last game was LA Lakers best shot and they still lost.
Anthony Davis, what you say
he was in a sea of ass sweaty ass at the end of the game so I think that's gonna have some
residue.
Kulo.
Kulo.
Sweaty ass residue.
And staying within that game I'm gonna go with the point guard De'Angelo Russell he's
had some rough games bro he had some shaky stuff that happened that really swung the
momentum of the last couple of games.
So I thank him back in front of that home crowd.
He's going to be juiced down 20 points.
So he's going to go over 17.5 points tonight, daddy.
That is Thursday Thunder.
Lock him in.
Thank everybody in America.
And remember, if I lose, you choose my punishment, baby.
I don't know why you keep doing that.
That seems excessive and it seems like a form
of self-flagellation that's not necessary.
You are giving your best-
It feels necessary, it's implied.
He likes costumes.
It's a lie.
You are giving your best to these picks.
You are doing a great job with these picks.
You've done them better than anyone around here,
so salute to you.
I want to play-
Oh, oh, oh. Pick the heat yesterday. Yes, you do. And you were like, well, that's terrible analysis. around here so salute to you i want to play
pick the yesterday yesterday and you're like well that's terrible analysis
but was terrible analysis but it was correct analysis it was it was but it
was terrible analysis you can be uh... okay
i'm glad we talked about it
joe keem noah is on south beach sessions tomorrow and i've heard a lot of people
talking here recently in a way Noah is on South Beach Sessions tomorrow and I've heard a lot of people talking
here recently in a way that gives me some recoil because for example Paul
Pierce comes on yesterday and he sounds like an old head complaining about an
assortment of different things that the young people aren't doing that he and
his guys did. Joe Keemgo is very careful about criticizing anyone in public.
He is somebody who doesn't want to take the route of being someone who brings attention
to himself because he's ripping a lot of other people.
But he brought up something when it came to Joel Embiid's reaction to being heartbroken
about losing that way to the New York Knicks.
It seems like Joel Embiid, even though he is all, you know, size and muscles, it seems
like he is of his age.
He's someone who cries leaving the court and falls down without worrying about how you're
going to receive it because it's heartbreaking
to lose against Kawhi Leonard on a bounce and he cares deeply.
He's trying so hard that he's taking God knows how many needles to be out there and so after
the game he just looks broken when he's saying we're a better team, we're going to win this
series and he physically has got his head down and Joakim Noah had a problem with all
of it.
I have a hard time understanding how this person fits with that person though
they seem like two different entities in terms of how you carry your way
through life and who you had to be in the furnace
hundred percent
hundred percent of manly i think
i think everybody is
it's uh... it's interest just
even watching the games now is, it's interesting.
You know, I watched yesterday the Knicks come back, win that game against the Sixers.
And you know, Joel Embiid is going to have to live, that one, that was a tough loss yesterday.
You got to mentally get yourself right for game three.
And I'm seeing him do the interview yesterday. Head down.
I was like, it's not just about how you're feeling.
You're the leader in this locker room.
You got to conduct yourself a certain way.
It's different as much pain as you're in.
The other guys in the locker room can't see what you had down like that.
That's just I'm just and you know it's one of the reasons why I don't love it.
I'm not saying that to critique I'm just saying this as it's just my opinion.
I've told you guys the story before of Alan Houston the ball is
dancing on the rim and the Knicks is an eight seed beat the Heat as a one seed
and Pat Riley realizes he's got to blow the whole thing up with your mom Ashburn
and every everything else and Pat Riley is at his desk weeping as the coach of
that team and Alonzo Mourning comes in to the locker room and tells Pat Riley in
uniform do your f***ing job.
Get out there and talk to those people.
You're the leader. You can't be in here all broken.
It's more, it's about everybody.
It's not just about you.
I understand why Joel Embiid would feel
it's almost all about him.
I don't know the correct way to lead in a situation
when you're fundamentally emotionally broken.
Did you see what Goran Dragich said?
Remember through his early struggles,
Pat Riley straight up came up to him and said,
we don't pay you for this shit.
So just anytime you think I'm too tough on Terry Rozier.
The thing about-
I see what you did, can't do that.
Crossfire. Which part can he do? That's not the same thing, but I agree what you do. You can't do that. Crossfire. Which part can he do?
That's not the same thing, but I digress.
You're my brother.
Nope.
It is not the same thing, and you have not digressed.
One of the other things...
Look, man, I didn't wake up one day and decide I was going to be the only person keeping
it real with the Miami Heat.
I woke up one day and everybody else just ceased keeping it real.
How is this still where we are?
Well, I was trying to move away from it, but he's remaining there. and everybody else just ceased keeping it real. How is this still where we are?
Well, I was trying to move away from it,
but he's remaining there.
Joakim Noah also had,
and I don't know how you guys would react to this
because I reacted in a way that was really surprised
to playing for him the video of the woman
who was giving him the middle finger
when he walked off the court after being ejected.
She had a middle finger in his face
and then we read afterward
that she had a suspicious murder in her past, allegedly,
because this is Maximum Miami
and that's how we do things around here.
But how do you guys imagine?
I put in front of Joakim Noah,
this photograph of him leaving the court,
how would you imagine that Joakim Noah
would react to all of what I'm presently showing you?
That became a thing on the internet,
but I imagine it's something that's way more important
to fans than it is to Joakim Noah.
I would think, man, that was pretty nasty.
How strange, why did that happen?
I wonder if she's murdered anybody.
People are real assholes.
I guess that would be my reaction.
The thing that I had not accounted for
and was taken aback, and we'll play this at some point
because it's super awkward, I got the reaction all wrong
and when you say fans care more than the
players do not this particular player
this particular players looking at that and saying i'm glad i didn't see her
because of the level of his rage
and i say to him
thinking i'd miss read it
all the disrespect of a human being is putting it feels entitled enough to walk
up to a six ten man in a moment of pain
to put an f u right in his face he's like
nahal
i still hurt as we lost a game of thirty
and i'm getting ejected and i'd let everybody down
and one of the things he's saying is
i have scars here
that have not healed everybody down and one of the things he's saying is i have scars here that
have not healed
i care in a way he's saying that make losses failures in front of people
and near death experience
do you know how much pain i have to play through to even get out there do you
know how much i have to care to be joe l and b and not just do the thing i'm
best at in front of people but just fail in front of thousands of people and have them say after the game
had broken guy keep your head up
you gotta care so much that you're also strong enough in this situation to be
broken but pretend for your teammates that you're not pretend for the public
that you're not because the public can't beat trust it i can't be trusted with
your vulnerability they're going to be cruel about it you have to appear strong even in moments when you're not because the public can't be trusted with your vulnerability.
They're going to be cruel about it.
You have to appear strong even in moments when you're not.
I think people who watch these games and think they care more about the thing
that they're watching than the people who are being embarrassed in front of others
and are hugely prideful about not wanting to be embarrassed,
I think we misread all the time how much these people
Care and why Joel Embiid would be broken in that situation and how annoying it would be to be Joel Embiid
Broken in that situation and have everyone have an opinion about how you shouldn't look that broken in that situation
And I mean Joel Embiid's been through this on multiple occasions. He lost the game 7
Bounce that went in for Kawhi that eliminated a team in the Sixers that might have gone on to win a title then invalidated his career. And now
he has this ending against the Knicks. It's got to be
exhausting to go through that and have that be the singular
criticism of your career and the Brunson three it late in that
game had a weird bounce. So that's pretty hilarious. Sixers
have had some bad luck with bounce. Right. And we see the
way that people react
to players showing emotion.
I mean, the way people reacted to Chris Bosch crying
when he was down here and the amount that he cared.
It wasn't, hey, look how much this guy cares.
It was, oh, come on, suck it up.
Let's think about the lack of accountability in general
around us when we make a mistake.
And let me put this in front of you now.
You've scored 30 plus points on one leg.
You're clearly injured. God knows how many needles you're taking not only do
you get beaten by that bounce when you're up five with twenty eight seconds
left but then the next day you get the report of brunson had a foul hard had a
foul and also nick nurse clearly should have gotten the timeout hey joelle do
more
make the referees better
joelle do more
do what you are why are you broken after the game?
Do more, they need you tonight.
Save your season, MVP.
Save your season.
Don't cry on the court.
Beat the Knicks now.
Mental health, brother.
Like, I keep those brothers in my prayers
because I know the weight of the world is on their back,
with the cities and all of that.
So, much respect to all those brothers.
Don Lebatard.
Cheaters never prosper. Stu Gats. I ain't cheatin'. This is the Don Lebatard
show with the Stugats.
There was very exciting movie news that popped up on my social media feeds that it got me
so excited when I first saw it but I've seen all these fake news articles about movies I had to really do a deep dive and find out if this was
legit and it is. Face Off 2 is in development. Face Off was for its time in
the late 90s arguably the premier action movie.
John Woo, what a moment, what a guy.
Now, I don't know if you recall how Face Off ended.
Casher Troide.
I don't.
Spoiler alerts all over the place.
This is one of the two successful movies of all time
that has involved a plot twist
that involves pulling your face off.
I've never seen it. So the reports are that both John Travolta and Nicholas Cage are back in to
reprise their roles of Sean Archer and Castor Troy. How? Well it was amazing acting because
they played both of them. Yeah, John Travolta took his turn as Sean Archer and then Nicholas Cage
took his turn as Sean Archer. John Nicolas Cage took his turn as Sean Archer.
John Travolta knocked Castor Troy out of the park and somehow outperformed Nicolas Cage
doing Castor Troy.
Peach, I could eat a peach for hours, the whole deal.
It was incredible.
It's maximum cage.
John Travolta did a better Nicolas Cage than Nicolas Cage is what you're claiming in Face
Off.
Right.
So there's a part where it ends on this crazy high-speed chase with bad body doubles
in like a speedboat, and it crashes onto the shore.
And at one point, like the vocal thing
that is on Nicolas Cage to make him sound like Nicolas Cage,
even though he's actually John Travolta in this moment,
because he hates Castor Troy
because he killed his son Michael.
And he does this weird thing
with his hands over people's face
and it was just traumatic for him.
So he gets stabbed with like this spear
and Castor Troy who has the face of Sean Archer is like,
well, you're still gonna have to look at my face
in the mirror.
And then he starts taking a knife to his face
and Nicolas Cage is just screaming, die.
But remember Nicolas Cage is just screaming die but remember Nicolas
Cage is Sean Archer they load him in an ambulance and they have to save the face so Sean Archer
can walk back into Joan Allen's house who has already been convinced man you want to
talk about a mind bleep that she's had sex with Castor Troy even though it looked like
Sean Archer but John Travolta
It was her husband what could she have known it looked just like her husband
Daddy's got a brand new bag he walks into into the house, everything's fine, that's Face
Off, how can we possibly make a sequel?
Exactly.
We're making a sequel.
How?
Well the screenwriter says he was never convinced that Caster Troy was dead.
So that's one way, I mean, he got loaded into an ambulance and they had to save the
face, what if he never actually died?
Or what if it was Pollock's Troy by bro the entire time?
But how about this for a pitch on Face Off 2?
It's not actually a sequel to Face Off.
Instead, it is Nicholas Cage and John Travolta
acting out what they did to prepare for Face Off.
Cause I don't know if you know
what they did to prepare for face-off.
I do not, but I do know that John Travolta
did a very good Nicolas Cage.
So, the legend is that Nicolas Cage and John Travolta
went to some isolated cabin somewhere
for roughly 10 days and studied each other.
I swear to God.
That's why John Travolta did such a good Nicholas Cage.
Can you imagine being a fly on the wall
over the course of 10 days?
I'd watch that as face-off too.
That's essentially, you could make the lighthouse again
by having the two of them go completely insane.
That sounds like the plot of the lighthouse.
The lighthouse, 100%.
That's amazing.
I need them only interviewed.
Can you get them on South Beach Sessions?
We'll promote Face Off to The Cows Come Home.
But I need an in-depth, long, long podcast series
on the 10 days spent where John Travolta
and Nicolas Cage studied each other.
Can you guys please find for me till the cows come home?
I'm not an outdoorsman, I'm not a farmer,
I don't know why cows come home,
I don't know if that takes a long time,
it must take a long time, but I don't know why
or how that takes a long time.
Is John Woo also the director?
There were a lot of slow motion doves released
in that movie. That's his thing, yeah. Yeah, that's his thing. Two things that John Woo also the director? There were a lot of slow motion doves released in that movie.
That's his thing, yeah.
That's his thing.
Two things that John Woo invented,
the doves and double guns, double handguns.
Those are John Woo's signature things.
I have said before on this show
that there has never in the history of cinema
been a good movie where someone peels their face off
as a plot twist, but I have been corrected
by both Face Off
and Silence of the Lambs.
And Mission Impossible.
I argued against that.
I think that was-
Fallout's the greatest action movie of all time
and it has a face peeling off.
And the greatest, I think that's the Wolf Blitzer one,
which is like the craziest reveal out of all the reveals.
I believe it's what started the conversation
that made me maintain that you can't have
the plot twist be, oh, I've been fooled, that person can pull off their face.
You think that Mission Impossible cannot fool you with a face reveal and then they do the
Wolf Blitzer one.
It fooled me.
That was nuts.
I can't dispute that it did fool me.
I was not expecting.
The red one?
Yes, Wolf Blitzer was, you don't know this?
I don't want to spoil it, but at one. Yes, Wolf Blitzer was, you don't know this? I don't wanna spoil it, but at one point,
I thought Wolf Blitzer was actually there
as a part of the proceedings, but nope, turns out
they just peeled off Wolf Blitzer's face,
and the bad guy had been foiled,
because how could he expect that Wolf Blitzer
was actually Tommy Bruce?
Shut up to Scooby-Doo.
He's really ahead of the curve on that.
They showed this terrorist who was convinced
because he was recovering in a hospital bed
that he actually carried out his mission
of detonating a nuclear device.
And they had CNN news reports on the TV
and Wolf Blitzer was doing a news report on it
and he actually ends up fessing up
and giving the IMF all the information that he needs.
And after he does that, the doors of the hospitals,
like all the, it's a facade, stage doors open up,
Wolf Blitzer takes his face off, and it's Tom Cruise.
I mean, what a moment.
Did you guys see the Jennifer Lopez film yet?
Because there's a, it's not a face,
no one's face is coming off, but there is a reveal
in the credits of that movie that have left me reeling, honestly, for months.
It's honestly atop my docket,
but now we're in playoff time, which means-
It's only an hour long, it's very short.
I'm not watching any of these baby reindeer shows.
I'm not, pop culture, for me, ceases to exist.
Mike, I'm with you, to be fair.
I'm really behind on everything.
It's just sports are coming out of my eyeballs right now and the draft is tonight
I haven't done nearly enough draft prep
I'm gonna be doing draft prep in the hours leading up to the draft show when I have to come back here with Chris later
I mean, it's been brutal this spring has been the sportiest of all the springs
The Jennifer Lopez movie was panned by all she made it herself, correct?
She she decided she funded it herself, correct? She decided.
I think she funded it herself and she was the star of it
and it was very weird, but honestly,
it wasn't un-entertaining, so.
What was weird about it, though?
I don't know what it was for or what it was.
I don't understand why it exists, but otherwise,
I couldn't look away.
It is the quintessential vanity project
in that no one really wanted to support it financially,
she had to figure out how to do this really crazy movie.
Worth it for the reveal.
Worth it for the reveal.
And you don't wanna spoil it.
I'm not spoiling it.
But it stayed with you for months in a way?
I'll never forget it.
I heard Ben Affleck say,
we shouldn't put this out,
and then she put it out, so. Well.
Supplementally, I've heard that you also have to watch
the documentary, The Greatest Love Story Never Told,
which is actually being told.
Which I have not seen yet,
because the sports are coming out of my eyeballs, Dan.
What an odd thing that must be,
in what your reporting is there is accurate, Juju.
You've made a thing,
your husband says to you after you've poured your heart
into that thing, you shouldn't put that out.
What an awkward thing that is for the people involved.
But he's part of it.
Yeah, the reporting was that he kind of advised
at the beginning, like, hey, are you sure we should be doing this and then ultimately just
Decided like all right. Well if we're gonna do it. I've got to try to help Valerie must say that to you often
Why are we putting that out?
The idea that
She would care about something that deeply and early on
about something that deeply and early on, a piece of art, that personal, and that her husband would say, are you sure about that?
That doesn't sound, it sounds like good advice, but also not support and I can't imagine,
the reason that I was stunned by that, I can't imagine J.Lo taking that advice from anybody
if she's done this personal a project. I can't
imagine anyone in the world could tell that person, not her husband, not anybody,
you shouldn't put that out without that landing hurtfully. I'm just running
through the scenarios in which 25 years later you need Sean Archer and Castor
Troy to both switch each other's faces once again. Is it because of Castor Troy's son?
Is that it?
Is that how you reach him?
Is it like they're peeling off the skin?
Or is it like a mask?
No, they actually take the faces off.
They don't actually take the faces off.
No, they do.
It's like Game of Thrones.
We should do that with Billy and Tony.
Face off each other and then say,
stay over there and you come back as Billy and Tony, face off each other and then say, stay over there
and you come back as Billy and.
They take the faces off and then Margaret Cho dies.
Do they have like scars from the?
No, it was really like ahead of its time.
They even do a little lipo and they address the hair.
Buckle fat removal.
How are they gonna address the hair with Nick?
Because I don't know if you saw the Oscars,
he looked great.
He's finally got a system in place that works.
I don't know how we do this.
Because you imagine, while Castor Troy, his hair,
is not Nicolas Cage's hair, you've
got to maintain that late 90s receding hairline.
I mean, so many questions for where they go with this.
Number one, John Woo has to come back for it.
Or do you think he's like, that's ridiculous?
It's 25 years later.
I've already released all the dubs in slow motion.
I guess I could do three guns.
Mike, when you said you heard movie news that made you, I don't know, your ears perked up
a little bit, it reminded me of movie news that I read the other day, which was that
an executive at AMC, I guess like paraphrasing here but if we knew
you guys were going to be weird about the dune popcorn buckets we wouldn't have made
them. And as I was reading it I did feel a little bit of shame.
I mean anything that has that kind of cylinder is going to be made a thing but I love what
Ryan Reynolds did with it which is he demanded of Marvel execs and Disney execs that they
also have a sexually suggestive popcorn bucket
for Deadpool and Wolverine.
I know that there's been a couple of stabs,
a couple things that have gone viral
that are not actually real,
because I don't think,
maybe Ryan Reynolds does want you to f*** his face,
but I don't actually think that that's going to be allowed.
But I think the studios maybe are like,
they pay someone from a shitpost or account to put up a fake one
Just to see what the reaction will be be like will someone on the internet
Be able to have sex with this we're just gonna put out feelers that needs to be the first question
a movie theater exec to ask if the popcorn bucket
Can be something some people can have sex with if the answer is no back to the drawing board feel like it's always yes
If the answer is no, back to the drawing board. I feel like it's always yes.
Deadpool and Wolverine opened.
Its trailer opened as the most watched thing
in the history of the internet upon arrival.
Watched by so many people so fast
because of how popular everything around that is.
I mean, goosebumps when they both jump into the portal,
the end game portal.
Are they gonna find themselves in that scene?
That's wild.
I'm such a nerd
Just a big nerd
Face-off to will be bigger than Deadpool Wolverine
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