The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Would You Give Josh Gad Your Kidney? (feat. Patrick Surtain & Patrick Surtain II)

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

Dan Le Batard puts the Dan in pedantic. Then, there was a Brad Pitt scammer, and it has us asking Dan what he'd be willing to give up for local icon Josh Gad if he asked for it. Plus, both Patrick Surtain and Patrick Surtain II join the show to discuss their relationship as a father-son duo to play cornerback in the NFL and when Surtain Sr. recognized his son's excellence, what it was like to watch his son give up 70 points to his old team, and when he knew his son would be elite. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It really doesn't matter, but either way, the Boost Mobile boldest take from the weekend is presented by Boost Mobile, the newest 5G network in the country. How do you guys feel in general about how Chris delivered all of that? I think he did fine till you then made a sort of slightly pedantic correction,

and then he had to try to save it. We know what that means. Stop being pedantic is the real note here. The middle word in pedantic is always Dan. You guys put behind me weekend, and you said week, and I'm just trying to get the advertising right because we appreciate our sponsors. This is the first time one's making an appearance here.

We're celebrating Queerville today. We wanna show our sponsors that we love our sponsors, so I just wanna do it right. I'm not being pedantic. The literal definition of pedantic, someone who's too concerned with literal accuracy or formality. It doesn't matter if it's from the weekend or the week.

I think the idea, the gist of it, was delivered accurately. You know what? You're generally correct. I would say that it is a life principle rule to if you know the general meaning of what someone is saying, you become an asshole by correcting them when you know. Except when you're trying to please sponsors

with sponsored content and you wanna make sure to get these things correct. I think they would've been fine with it, probably less so with what we're doing now. But we're doing this on Wednesday, Dan. If we did it on Monday, I would've said weekend. I'm just doing the math that it's weird to pitch something from the weekend on Wednesday.

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And it's presented by Boost Mobile, the newest 5G network in our country. I love that it's here. It's been a while since we had phone lines around here. I was surprised to miss the phone lines. I've always mocked the phone lines. We used to have, I don't know if you guys remember this or are old enough to remember this,

you could go through some of this in the oral history, especially the super cuts, which I've enjoyed. We have done this kind of thing before where we have a hot take hotline and what ends up happening is Stu Gotz ends up calling again and again on his way home It's open to anyone if Stu gots gives the boldest take then we'll play it Be bolder than Stu gots audience the other things that I wanted to get to today that I'm hoping that we have time for

They're an assortment of them. I am told finally after much much pushing and shoving. You guys finally have some gas bags of the week to give me. You guys finally have two competing gas bags. I've asked you to do it every week. We haven't done it for months. We did it like two or three times and then fell right into a ditch with a fart sound. Do you have good gas bags of the week to compete against each other? Yes or no, Chris?

Are you confident? You keep telling me it's because your standard is so discerning, that it's hard to get, everyone's giving takes and it's hard for you to find one that's gas bag worthy, when all I hear is Dan Dockich over here saying idiotic thing after idiotic thing, but you guys aren't listening to real gas bags.

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, overall I'm feeling less confident than I was before this segment, just because of how this segment has started. But I have two nominees here, I have one from Bill Simmons and one from Colin Cowhert Which do you think is better? Which one do you think should win? Well, let's find out together Let's do Bill Simmons first talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers. I officially think Pittsburgh's the best team in the AFC Come on, you can't after after a Jameis game. You can't claim that I think they're the best team I feel the safest about them if you start nitpicking all these AFC teams Come on, you can't after a Jameis game, you can't claim that. I think they're the best team.

I feel the safest about them if you start nitpicking all these AFC teams. I feel the most comfortable with Pittsburgh. That was 14 days ago. Oh no. No, it wasn't. It was mid December. What's the math on that? More than 14 days ago.

14 sounds good though. It was like 20 days ago. Mid December. That was after the month After they lost to Jamis on Thursday night and then ended up losing four of their last five games second Browns game So that's against okay That's the one they won and so he's saying after that they went on a five game losing streak after that they played the Chiefs

Ravens and Eagles in the span of 11 days game losing streak. After that they played the Chiefs, Ravens, and Eagles in the span of 11 days, which when the schedule came out everyone circled that as like, oh this could be nasty. It was yikes, not a take I would have made after that Browns game. I mean but they were coming off of a big win against the Bengals, it was December 8th, they had beat the Ravens, the Commanders, I could see it. Yeah. They lost all of those games by one by 14 plus points. So there wasn't really, yes they were playing against good teams, but there wasn't anyone in the league losing quite like that. I commend Bill Simmons for this take.

Of course you do. We got a better one though. We have Colin Cowherd comparing Lamar Jackson and Sam here cow herd comparing Lamar Jackson and Sam Darnold Lamar Jackson Sam Darnold look at the numbers. Who do you trust more in a playoff game? Are you sure it's Lamar and I love Lamar But when I said years ago, I said there's some Andrew Luck here He's saying that about Sam Darnold there's some and that's not now and Arnold Was recent also in December crazy. He's been saying the Sam Darnold. There's some Andrew Luck and Sam Darnold. When was that? This was recent also, in December. That's crazy.

He's been saying the same thing since like 2016. Can you guys find for me, because there was, there was a historic cowherd take that aged most poorly as it regarded to instantaneous analysis on a famous quarterback of some sort that was spectacularly intergalactically wrong and I've told you guys before that Colin Cowherd, like some others, has figured out that it doesn't matter what your words are, there is money to be made in being wrong, loudly wrong, as long as you just get it out there and it gets aggregated because credibility

doesn't much matter anymore as long as you're just getting the eyes for whatever it is that you're saying. We will get to that in a second if I can remember it, but Jessica, I wanted to talk to you about this Brad Pitt scammer lady, and explain to me what is happening here with AI. I get fooled very easily by AI. Is this happening to the rest of you?

Oh man, the thing is this isn't even AI. I think it's bad Photoshop. But Dan, even you, I think, wouldn't have been fooled by this. These are pictures that allegedly were sent to a woman in France by Brad Pitt, asking her for money, pretending to be Brad Pitt or slash Brad Pitt's mom, saying that he was in the hospital and that he needed help

and he needed money. And this poor woman, I do feel bad because she is just getting eviscerated online for this, but this poor woman was scammed out of over $800,000 according to people.com, sending this money to this person pretending to be Brad Pitt. And these photos are just so bad. It's like, it's almost unfathomable how this could happen.

My favorite is the bottom right one where it's just like someone doing surgery and it's just Brad Pitt's face popping up. I thought that was Mike Ryan from this distance just popping up in the surgery room. I didn't even know, like from behind a corner of the surgery room because it's so far and it looks so incredibly fake.

But I've gotta think that if I'm regularly being fooled by AI stuff that's not this crude, it's happening to everybody, correct? Like especially the voice stuff, like the fake audio, how easy is it to fool you on all of this fake audio that they can make to sound exactly like, you know, Mike Tomlin is saying something he's not actually saying.

Well, I was going to say more so where they can like call you saying like they're calling you from like your loved one's phone and use their voice. That scares me. The Mike Tomlin ones, I pretty much always know that those ones are fake. I'm trying to find like the level of celebrity that I might fall for something like this. Like, Josh Gad reached out to me That's a really good one He reached out to dookie leg trying to get that

WPLG trying to find the celebrity out there that if I got an email perfect bunch of pictures and I'm like hey I need $70,000 by tomorrow. I'd be like I gotta help Josh Gad Yes, $70,000. No, I'd call my mom. He'll be Josh Glad. But I'm just saying, that's the level. Josh Gad needs $800,000. I'd probably set up a three-way Zoom with me, my mom, and Josh Gad.

And let's really talk this out. How can we do this? He'd be Josh Glad. He would, for the help. He would. Is it the Josh Rosen is a better prospect than lamar jackson take that you were thinking about a cowherd well it's a i found a clip it's a lamar jackson take and i want to get to it in a second i'll be really josh glad when we get to it i just

can't believe how bad a joke that was just but would you help j Josh Gad if he asked Dan? Really nice guy. What's he asking for? He needs 70K. No, I'm not, no. But he needs it. I will acknowledge though that comedically, the syllable count, name, and visual of Josh Gad was perfectly chosen by Chris Godey. Like just as someone randomly calling you

and they've got a name and the name is Josh Gad, I don't think you could have picked a better celebrity for me to let that go to voicemail because I don't wanna cash that favor, whatever it's needed. Wow, okay. So if it's the money and the amount, which would you rather give Josh Gad in a time of peril, a kidney or $70,000?

Mine or my mom's? Your kidney, but it's free. Well, I guess if the person, even if they're a scammer, actually needs the kidney, at least the kidney's going to a good place. Whereas if you're just giving them money, they don't need, they're just blowing this on something. No, he needs a kidney, but it's either your kidney

or $70,000, he can buy a kidney on the black market. But someone's getting a kidney. Josh Gad is getting a kidney. Actual Josh Gad. Yeah, yeah, he needs one. Oh, okay, I thought this was scammer Josh Gad is getting a kidney. Actual Josh Gad. Yeah, yeah, he needs one. Oh, okay, I thought this was scammer Josh Gad. No, no, Josh Gad needs one. Because like, donating a kidney to a stranger is like,

even if you're scammed out of it, it's a good thing to do, I guess. I was just doing this more along the lines of an email I would actually believe. Whereas Brad Pitt, I would be like, someone's messing with me. Whereas if it was Josh Gad, I'd be like, this is so random. Which is why this is insane.

Like, this woman was like, oh, I guess that makes sense. Brad Pitt's calling me. If I'm an organ donor and Josh Gad needs my kidney and I'm donating my kidney to Josh Gad, who pays the copay? Do I have to pay my insurance to donate a kidney to Josh Gad? I think you both have to pay for it.

Because like there's a medical procedure that's taking place that presumably my insurance will cover, which I'm sure they'd ask, like why are we covering an elective surgery where you're donating kidney? But do I pay to donate my kidney or does the recipient? Maybe some people's insurance covers both surgeries.

You would think, right? Like a car accident situation. You say it's a good question, Jessica, but I will show you and have to show you, and it's not just because I've been sipping here, Cuervo, for about 40 minutes. I need to shine a light on what Billy just did there, which is he turned to conversation we were having

that was already absurd about Josh Gad asking Chris Godin for money. Yeah, and then made it about a kidney instead the money. Then made it about copay when all I want is the Lamar Jackson sound. So I'm only gonna- Gad, and I've learned Gad would be paying the copay. I am only willing to go so far with Billy on this.

He's making me Josh sad. I want to play the Lamar Jackson sound on Colin Coward, please. This is the analysis as Lamar Jackson is coming out of college and I've said Lamar Jackson's a more talented version of Tim Tebow and all I get pushback all I get is pushback and I say no No, you watch what's gonna happen? Baltimore and Denver were proud franchises with Super Bowls Getting very frustrated with their head coach on the hot seat both guys were overdrafted both guys are projects not prospects. Tim Tebow was a

project he was never a prospect Lamar Jackson's a project he's not Sam Darnold he's not Josh Rose and you watched him last night he's not even close and here you have a young quarterback who runs right now better than he throws and he's new Flashy and fun and he's hope he is hope and now add Twitter and stir

Lamar ball is what we may be calling him by November of Course Lamar is not close. I've never thought he was close. That's why I keep calling him a project I never call him a prospect Sam Darnold's a prospect Okay, Baker Mayfield's a prospect. They'll play this year and they'll be able to move the change. They'll be able to go no No, this is a project So the fake Brad Pitt said he had kidney cancer and needed a loan because his bank accounts were locked as a result of his ongoing divorce with Angelina Jolie. So there was a kidney involved.

Dan, would you give Pitt your kidney? You guys see Tebow's having a baby, speaking of Tim Tebow? I saw that everywhere yesterday. He seems like he'd be a fun dad, but also take like, go out for a catch. Like he'd be throwing pretty hard, right? Taking things very seriously. Yeah, yeah.

I need to hear. I think the baby's gonna come out and teebo. Remember teeboing? Oh. What a craze. I need to hear this list again of quarterbacks that Lamar Jackson is not. He's not Sam Darnold, he's not Josh Rosen.

You watched him last night. He's not even close. He's not Sam, Josh Rosen, that's true. He's not close to either one of them. He's not wrong about that. I saw this on Twitter. not close to either one of them. He's not wrong about that I saw this on Twitter I need to credit who posted this one of my Calgary them friends Cal's had more quarterback start in the Super Bowl than USC

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and I said it. Cheaters never prosper. Stugats. My buddy was saying, not today. Yeah, but you're trying. Not today. I think that was what he was adding Yeah I'm telling you the response I got from this guy what I said was amazing. He got a cheaters never prosper This guy yelled as angry as he could

This is the done libertar show with the Stugats. Stugats, what a thrill this is. You might see right in front of you right now what might be the best cornerback in Dolphins history and is the most second most second best cornerback on this particular call call I think I can say that I could probably say it's better than that if I had another chance at it but what we've had we have on the line here one cornerback is a three-time Pro Bowler and an all-pro selection at cornerback but the other is also a three-time Pro Bowler and a two-time first team all-pro selection at quarterback, and he's done it in four seasons.

So I'm guessing that it breaks Patrick Sertan's heart and fills his heart to say publicly as a cocky cornerback that his son is already better than he is. Dan, I have told you, Patrick, I have told Dan this a number of times. It is always better to watch your kid do it than do it yourself. So I am guessing you're totally fine with your son being the best cornerback in the

family. I'm totally fine with it. I didn't want to relinquish the title quite yet, but it's obvious. Well, but do I say anything that's incorrect? Patrick Jr., or Patrick II the second excuse me can you tell me whether or not what kind of memories do you have of your father's greatness did you know he was great. Yeah, I knew I knew he was great. Later down the lines

before I was a bit younger so I don't remember it vividly the times when you play for the Dolphins but I still recall like memories back in the day when he played with the Chiefs and I knew instant greatness right away. So that's when I realized the type of play he was. Patrick Senior, do you regard yourself as the best defensive back

or the best corner in Dolphins history? I do, I do. Obviously, you know, I played with the other greats in Sam Maddison, played some with T Buck, but I just think, you know, the number of years I was there, seven years, the stats I was able to accumulate, you know, the Pro Bowls, you know,

just being an all around player, you know, played in the slot, you know, got seven and a half sacks, obviously 37 picks. You know, it's up for debate. I think about my time here and the work that I put in. I definitely will consider and if you ask anybody else that question, they would say the same thing. So Patrick Jr. Did you know those stats of your father's seven and a half sacks? How many sacks you got? I don't got no sex.

Yeah, he got the upper stamp on me right there. I don't, I didn't get no sex on the QB yet. That's a stat I'm trying to accumulate as well. So, but wait, but wait a minute. The reason that your teammates got as many sacks, got more sacks than anyone in the NFL this year is because you're back there as defensive player of the year covering people. So you didn't get the sacks, but you got the sacks.

Yeah. You know, I could say I hope along the lines of the sacks you know I could I put my name in it for sure. I hope the guys get some pressure a little bit you know they help me as well to but you know my covers in the back and helps a lot to so you can say that who's who do you regard as in your class as a corner Stingley obviously this postseason is getting a lot of talk, but when I think you're

the favorite to win defensive player of the year, you're not like, who do you regard as as good as you at this? I mean, that's a good question. Obviously, everybody got their tears of corners. I mean, I think I solidify myself consistently these past couple of years. So I could definitely say I'm at the top of the game right now, honestly, for myself. But yeah, Stingley, he's had a great year, an all-pro year, he's a great cornerback. Jayden Ramsey, another dude that's been doing consistently,

Sal's Gardner, those guys for sure, Slay. I don't know, it's just a lot of good corners in the league sisterly, Salisgardner, those guys for sure, Slay, you know. I don't know, it's just a lot of good corners in the league that you could put in that class for sure, because, you know, with the league now, it's transcend to passing game, so you need a lot of good corners in this league. So, I mean, you could name a whole bunch, and you know it couldn't be wrong, so.

But do you think you're the defensive player of the year? Yeah, I believe so. I think my tape speaks for itself. What I've able to do this year, holding number one receivers, like under 30 yards, damn near every game, so I think the stats, the tape, the measurable speaks for itself, so why not? Dad, what's the game you saw that you were like,

oh, oh, he can shut down anybody? There any games that you're a little scared before it because you're like, okay, this one's a challenge for my son? Not really, because I've seen him do it for so long, just going back to high school, college, and just his, I really remember his rookie year where they just lined him out there like,

you got this guy, man. And he was playing with some veteran guys and Ronald Darby and Justin Simmons back there. And they had trust in him from day one to go out there and handle his business on the perimeter. And as the years have gone by, he's just only, he progressed in his game. And now, you know, he's probably one of the rare cornerbacks,

you know, in the game that follows the number one receiver. And I think that alone, you know, and being able to shadow those guys, because the receivers now, man, they're so good. They're coming into the pros, you know, ready, main, they're really good players. And for him to go and follow the top guys each and every week, you know, it says something about him and says how much trust that the coaching staff has in him.

Patrick, I'm wondering what it was like playing for your dad in high school, knowing that you were better than he was. Ha ha ha. No, I wasn't. I wasn't better than him just yet. But it was a great experience. It was moments that I would cherish forever, being able to be by his side, seeing him coach at a high level and him building young kids and turning them into young men.

It's pretty inspirational to look at it from that perspective because, I mean, he wasn't just coaching me. He was coaching a band of younger guys as well, too. So seeing that and being a part of that process and experience, I enjoyed it. And it's something I'll take with me forever. Hopefully, we'll cross ties again, maybe. Indeed, but you know, who knows. Was he hard on you?

Did he yell at you? Yeah, of course. He'll tell you himself. He was definitely hard on me. You know, I learned a lot from those experiences. You know, it was something that made me better as a player and as a person. Those tough learning lessons that I learned from him. It just made me better as a player and as a person, those tough learning lessons that I learned from him,

it just made me become wiser and I understood that, he wanted what's best for me at the end of the day. I mean, you need some tough constructive criticism to reach to this point. And I wouldn't want any other way. So I'm very thankful for that for sure. Patrick senior, I coached my daughter in lacrosse for like 10 years and she ended up going to Northwestern. It's like the Alabama of women's La Crosse. Okay. And so I am Patrick

Senior. I am wondering if you did this because I did it all the time. I would go out of my way to yell at my daughter because I wanted to save face with the rest of the team. Did you? There were some times, but you know, it's crazy because I didn't have any clue that I wanted to coach. But when I retired, I had to do something. He was at the park and I was just this crazy dad in the stands just yelling at people and everything. So my thing was I'm out here, so I might as well help and start coaching, but I tried to treat him as equal as I can as all the other players.

I didn't want to make an example, but at some point in time, I had to make an example with him to let the other guys know that he yelled at his son. The rest of us could get it too, but you have to know how to separate the two. I was coach at the school and on the football field, but at home I was dad, you know. So I think it worked out pretty good.

Hold on though. When you played, Sam Madison was the talker. You didn't have much of anything to say to anybody. You were better than everybody and you didn't say much of anything. Are you telling me that in the stands at his games before you were a coach, you couldn't shut up because you were yelling at everybody.

Dan, I was nuts. I was nuts in this stand, man. I didn't know where it came from. Just yelling at people. I remember one game I was on the sideline. He's running for a long touchdown. I'm running down the sideline and I knock a kid over. I'm like, oh man, what am I doing?

So, you know, it was just the excitement of seeing, you know, your kid out there doing special things, man. It just brought a certain energy and feeling out of me. Wait a second. Are you saying that you're sprinting right past him as he returns a pick six for a touchdown? You're just running next to your son? So good.

He actually played running back. So he was running down the field, scoring a touchdown, and I'm running the same directions as him, full speed. There was a little kid, so good. He actually played running back so he was running down the field scoring a touchdown running. The same directions of him full speed there was a little kid thank the kid like 8 years old man ran clean or look at that embarrassing that. Yeah, it was more. Your son is in there is is he not.

Well, I don't think he saw these he's already be so he's he's a little bit ahead of me. But yeah, man, sorry to the kid. Well, so explain this part to us. When you have the gratitude and the swelling of what is really proud love, how often will you, like what is the height of being moved by watching him play? Oh, just seeing him compete, man. I remember, I think two years ago,

he had two picks against the Chargers and he came to the stands and hand handed me the ball and I'm knocking people over and get out the way. That's my ball, getting the ball and going back, man. But it's also, you know, because when you're out there actually playing the game, you know, you're in control of everything. So there's no words, just as out there playing.

But as a dad, and I know Stu spoke about it earlier, but as a dad and a father watching your kid play, even at this level, you get anxiety because you want to do so well. And like everybody's expecting him to go out there and hold guys to zero catches and when he gives up one, people are like, oh my God, which is part of the game.

Like I said, a broken clock is right two times a day. Justin Jefferson is not a broken clock, Justin Jefferson. CD Lamb is not a broken clock. Justin Jefferson. I don't know, CD Lamb is not a broken clock. I don't know, I am listening to Patrick, but I'm looking at these extraterrestrials who are playing wide receiver, and I gotta tell you, Dan, they're a lot larger than the ones you were guarding. They're a lot faster.

They're a lot faster than the ones you were guarding. Randy Moss and Gold? I'm not gonna let you do that to, no. We talking about Randy Moss and Terrell Lowes and Marvin Harrison, that's all the famous now. Yeah. That's the guys we have to go against.

Okay. Just back off. You know what, I stand corrected. Okay. Fair enough. I got you, Patrick. Fair enough, I'm sorry, I deserve that for the disrespect, but I do marvel at the people

your son is covering and I don't know who he respects so much that he would say, yeah, that's a person who keeps me up a little the night before because I know that's gonna be the challenge that's about as good as I am. Yeah, like you said, man, there's some excellent receivers in the league, but he doesn't shy away from it, man. Like, he relishes the opportunity,

like we'll talk before the game, I'm like, you matching up this week? Of course I am, you know, but he doesn't shy away from it, man. Like he relishes the opportunity. Like we'll talk before the game. I'm like, you matching up this week? Of course I am. You know, and he looks forward to the opportunity. That's the kind of, kind of comparative he is. That's the kind of the work and the film study, that the habits that he's created from himself. He's always up for the challenge.

And the thing I love about it, he shows no fear, man. He gave a play up, he's out there next play in his face, you know, relishing the opportunity to go against the very best and all for my money man. He the things he did the way that his defense turned around. He definitely deserves defensive player here because nobody no other corner or player has the responsibilities that he has and the ground there and shut guys down and do it at a very high level, man, it speaks volumes. Eric Moules, two times a season.

Like, get the hell out of here. What are you doing? You're insulting the man. Okay, fair enough. Eric Moules was also a handful, but give me some names. Give me the guys, Junior, that keep you up, just a little bit, a little extra sleepless. I'll just give you a gauntlet from this year.

I had some pretty good receivers. First game I started off with DK Metcalf. You know his body work. He's one of the different receivers who could lift the whole weight room. One of them extra terrestrial receivers. So I just think that was the first one where I was like, okay, I know I got a gauntlet coming up this year.

Then shoot the next week, I had George Pickens. Obviously he put his name out there this year for show, made plays for them boys on that playoff run. Then I had to go up against Mike Evans. Then, you know, Mike Evans, he a Hall of Famer, does it consistently each and every year. Then Gary Wilson. Then the list goes on. Then I went up against-

You're just looking at your schedule. Do you have a schedule magnet on your computer right there? I'm just going through the schedule, man. Before the season, I'm like, okay, I know with receivers, I gotta go up against this year. Though it was definitely, I was up for the challenge. So yeah, I was looking forward to it for sure. Dad, is there anything in his physical mannerisms

that you're watching him or that anyone in your family is watching and they see you in him when he's playing? I just say the thing I marvel at, and you know, just looking back at what I did, I just say what the thing I marvel at and you know, looking back at what I did, I just say the technical aspect, you know, and just being able to stay in front of guys, man, that's a skill in itself. And just the technique, the confidence,

just all that, man, that it takes to play cornerback in this league at a high level. You know, I kind of see those same traits of him that I had in myself, the playmaking ability, you know, just being able, because people don't understand, man, like there's different body types of receivers that you got to go against, especially at his size,

and to go against a DK Metcalfs and then go against the quick guys like a Garrett Wilson, then a guy like Jamar Chase. The same thing when I played, we had to go against a Randy Marshall like a Garrett Wilson, then a guy like Jamar Chase. The same thing when I play, we had to go against a Randy Marshall, a Tio, then come back and go against a little guy, more of a half.

People don't understand that those matchups are tough because you're going against different guys and they present different challenges to you as far as quickness, power, speed, and all that stuff. And to be up and added every week, man, it takes discipline, it takes the right kind of mentality, man, and it's, he's, he, that shows why he's the best in game.

Junior, what does dad have to say to you after the game when his Miami Dolphins have put 70 points on your defense? I ain't gonna lie, I can't even talk about that game, man. I ain't gonna lie, I can't even talk about that game, man. I ain't gonna lie, that was a game that haunted me for the next weeks after, because I wasn't expecting that. Obviously I was going home, was expecting a good game, going to see family. I had like 20 plus, 30 plus family members there.

You know what I mean? Even Pop showed up before the game too. So I was excited. I was ready to put on a show then. Next thing you know, the game just like went left. And I look up, it was about 50, then it went to 70. I'm like, man, I'm done with this game. I can't even be as excited anymore to see him

because, you know, we put up that performance. But, you know, I think I felt instant relief and gratification when I was able to see family members. That made my day much better. So yeah, that's the experience. I don't want to relive ever again. OK, I'm sorry I did that to you. Your dad seemed to be laughing.

Your dad did seem to be laughing. I mean, everybody know that was quite, yeah, that was bad. Just for the record, like I surprised him, he didn't know I was coming, so I surprised him, came on the field, pregame and everything. And just for the record, by the end of the, about two minutes left in the third quarter, I was drunk.

So I knew the score. But the thing about it, they were down and Mike McDaniel kept throwing the ball. I'm like, oh, they were down and Mike Medallion kept throwing the ball. I'm like, oh, see, he's trying to break records on them. But yeah, I was in club live, watching the game. It was horrible for me. Your sub was suffering. Yeah, it was over.

Bad thing about it was it was humid. It was hot. Yeah. We were getting a whoop in the Sun and it was Yeah, that was your dad went to get drunk in the 70 points Before the fourth quarter I was watching I was watching out of one eye Saying you were basically drinking to make the pain go and so what you're doing you're saying you are basically

drinking to make the pain go away is what you're saying. Oh man does that's one of those days that's like the all the Jacksonville 12 day they should have liquor and at half time for us. For the play as he told players that as he told you about that one does your son know the score of that game that the game that sent Dan Marino into retirement does your does your your son know the score of that game? The game that sent Dan Marino into retirement. Does your son even remember the score of that game?

He's a student of the game. I don't, he may not know though. That was bad. Your father, your father allowed Jimmy, Jimmy Smith and the rest of those receivers to beat Dan Marino in his final game, 63 to seven in a playoff game. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. Hey. Who's laughing now, Patrick? It wasn't J. Smith, man. It was Fred Taylor. Ha ha ha. Hey, I knew it was over. I knew it was over.

First game, it was Fred's game. Dan threw him a pick six, and the water sprinklers come on. It was over after that. At least we put 20. I mean, shoot, we still over. And the water sprinklers come on. It was over after that. At least we put 20. I mean, shoot. We still have it.

It was Marino's last game. That was it. I don't remember that one. I don't. Yeah, man. Sorry, dad. Guys, thank you and congratulations. It really is a delight to see the son pick up the father's craftsmanship and take that

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