The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Zero Questions With Bill Walton

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

NBA Expert Mo Dakhil joins the show to yell at Greg and Stugotz about their Nikola Jokic is boring take. Amin continues to invite people to the Meadowlark Mixer and is also guest booking Dan on other ...people's shows. Plus, Bill Walton comes on (is asked zero questions) and discusses life, The Grateful Dead, how this Miami Heat team made their run and much more. Also, the PGA-LIV merger continues to stun the crew - what is next for golf? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. As if we don't have enough delirious voices, drunken voices, hungover voices around here because Greg Cody doesn't know where he is. I mean, I'll have him chasing Yoke's brothers in Denver. Now he's here and is just trying to fund and fuel his next party. A promised party that brings us now, Mo DeKiel, and I don't know why he's here. Exactly. Like in the middle of what we're doing presently, I know that he's been a good part for a couple of years now of your post game coverage after games.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I just don't understand why he's here right now this minute. Finals are in Miami. Why else? Why why would I be in Miami? You invited to a party. Wait for the party. Well, I actually wasn't planning on coming till I heard the party and I said, oh, let me book a fly.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Well, what has what has a mean promised on behalf of mental art media that he's now negotiating on air what has been promised to NBA right. Apparently air to us. Well who's come well that too. That's part of the gift bag evidently. I mean has made him switch me now last night. I mean booked me on Frank I solo show. Like the ice man.
Starting point is 00:01:24 He's running the riffs all over the place. Let me tell you right now, all across the media. I've got us going out. I've got people coming in. It's going to be a zoo in the studio for the next week. Dan, by the way, Frank wants to know when's the Friday, which works better for you? Who's Frank?
Starting point is 00:01:43 The ice man. The ice man. I saw him. The name you just said. I only knew him as the ice man. Nice man. I saw him. The name you just said. I only knew him as the iceman. I don't like it on. I mean, if you're known as the iceman, would you go by your real name? No.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Like that's never. How did it come to be that you booked me on that show? I mean, well, yeah, they reached out and I said, yeah, Dan would love to do it. He loves doing these things. He loves showing up in person and walking the concourse to get to the booth and doing a showroom there. That's by the way, that's where they do this show. Oh, it's a person, Dan.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, my God. Yeah, alive from the finals. Good for you, Dan. It's quite the rub. I mean, it's the ice man. What, Dan? And scale, by the way.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Oh, wow. Keeps getting better. I mean, do you like work here in a way that produces content that everyone wants to consume every minute that over the last few days when you've been in Denver? Absolutely. Look, NBA radio is reaching out to us. That's a question. What was the question exactly? Look, as long as you end with an upticker intonation.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I'm getting legit. I'm getting legitimately mad about the grift. I mean, it's promised a party that I'm just learning about while. Never started company doing a pandemic that's doctor even I'm afraid the details of my life but quite inconsequential why is Mo here yeah which is Mo why are you here outside of your job yeah I give us basketball analysis that both of you can geek out on for five minutes so I'm gonna high pitch question I think I can the most interesting part of this not good series is so far well let's start
Starting point is 00:03:37 mo with the conversation from two segments ago where Stugots and Greg Cody claimed that Nikoio Kits is boring to watch. Come on. I don't want to have that conversation. Can we do it smarter? Come on. Maybe he agrees. Well, let's, like, why do you think the nuggets aren't drawing the attention of the Stugots
Starting point is 00:03:56 and the Greg Codies of the world? Because they're looking for the athleticism, the dunks and all the fun stuff with that stuff, even defensively with blocks and all of that. You're not going to get that from Yokech. What you're going to get from Yokech, and I'm looking directly at the two of you guys. The most important thing there is you got to watch the genius of this guy's passing. It's unbelievable. We haven't had a passer like this.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I mean, since magic, a guy that can make these types of passes in a split second catches the ball with one hand and at the same time Is throwing those passes to Aaron Gordon for those dunks and those plays that you guys love. He's definitely worth watching How can our show be the actual show that has Someone who is magic and bird combined and Greg Cody instigats are like not gonna need to be more than that and bird combined and Greg Cody and Stu got your like, not gonna need to be more than that. I'm gonna need you to be with their hands in their underwear. I'm gonna need you to be something a little better
Starting point is 00:04:51 than the best of all the athleticism out there. Just someone who jumps. You bore me. You bore me, you excellent creature, that has taken our most athletic game and broken it over his knee. It's flabbergasting. It's frustrating.
Starting point is 00:05:08 No, but what, what, what, what, what, what, you admitted that he's a great passer. Okay, we all agree. No look, all that stuff. But you admit it other than that, Sure. He doesn't do a lot of the stuff that we associate with athleticism and excitement. But there's more to the game than just the pure athleticism of that stuff and a lot of what he does Leads to showing you those amazing things. I mean the full court length one handed water polo type pass
Starting point is 00:05:36 Nobody can do that That's insane. It's absurd to be able to catch the rebound and as he's coming down with the rebound look down court and throw a one handed full court pass to hit a guy in perfect stride. I mean he's going to do it better than Aaron Rodgers. You're talking about Kevin Love. That's a two-hand chess pass. So you want me to tune into the NBA finals for an outlet pass. I mean, it's a matter with you. A hell of a pass.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It's a really an amazing outlet pass though. Mo, one of the questions that Dan asked me yesterday was Mike Malone questioning the effort of his team as a reason why, oh excuse me, Michael Malone, he's corrected me personally about that, said his mom didn't name Mike. Give it to me. So what? I'm just saying, like this is... He did.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Congrats. In a conversation? How often does he do that? Well, not... I'm just saying like this is No cabbie correct me personally You did? Congrats In a conversation? How often does he do that? Well, not Do that to everybody? Correct people on the name?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yes, he does Oh, okay He's very like What? Wow But really salty after the Panthers lost Why are you just learning this now? Yes, I'm just learning this
Starting point is 00:06:43 It's Mike Bologna I mean they miss an obvious Slashing from Hill on Kachak. Yeah. Right in front of the referee. And then Martina and then Martina scores right after that. It's all she wrote. But, but so Dan asked me about Coach Malone's comments. What did you have to see from we? Wice film. Ah, watch your film. That's what I do. Um, he's right. When I'm watching the stuff defensively, they're not doing a good job rotating. It's not even just making mistakes. It's just not even making the effort to do the stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:12 They're getting hung up on screens, all that stuff. It was surprising when I was watching it, rewatching this game going like, damn, I missed some of this the first time. Let me, by the way, let me do a damn libertarian pressure here and say, I've failed to give you guys the bonafides of Maud D'Aquil. This is a man who's worked across the league for Greg Popovich and other great luminary
Starting point is 00:07:35 coaches and personalities. Been a video coordinator with the Clippers with the San Antonio Spurs. What am I missing? I worked with Team Australia. That's right. You worked with Brett Brown and Team Australia. Someone the other day said Maud worked with Team Australia. Oh, that's right. You worked with Brett Brown on Team Australia. Someone the other day said, Moe worked for Team USA.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And I said, ah, you worked for Team AUS. Close, but no cigar. Constantly got eliminated by Team USA. By the way, I worked for Team USA. Just got to out there. 2008 gold medal, no big deal. No, get me, move away. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I'm not just a clown, Chris. I've got credentials in Bonapete days. Where's your medal? Yeah. well, I didn't get well I got a t-shirt. What did you do to act? To really contribute to that I did a advanced scouting man like we were the scouting reports for the personnel for the teams Are planning it so Lithuania and Spain and all those things. I was the one that was doing the scouting reports So yeah, it's definitely that and not having the best players in the world. Well, I mean, look, what happened in 2004?
Starting point is 00:08:28 We had the best players didn't work. What happened in 2006 in the World Championships? Didn't work. 2008. They said, get me a meal, Hassan. Guess what? Guess what? The winning didn't stop. Do you wear the t-shirt? Do you wear it to bed? To bed. Oh, damn. This is a prized possession. So, is it hung up on a wall. No, no, it's in my closet
Starting point is 00:08:49 I wear every once in a while like I wear it around a limpic time let people what does it say? It says USA gold medal and then it has everyone's name on it not mine but all the players Do you get like the lesser metal so kind of like with like no? So kind of like with like no we got a tree. No, you know, you know, Same thing. Me and Coach Kaye. Man. Mo. So I think you think that your contributions to that victory and American patriotic victory are being underestimated and mocked by our, you take this seriously.
Starting point is 00:09:40 You're proud of it. And you got a t-shirt that means something to you, but the rest of the group here is laughing at you Yeah, because they've never experienced success of this order, you know, I mean, I get it like it's lonely at the top as they say But you know, I know that the team USA the main additions from the version in 2006 that didn't win to the version in 2008 that did win Kobe Bryant Chanty billups and you Jason kid. I mean, it all hasn't They gave you a t-shirt. Yeah pretty shitty gift.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You know what? You know what? For everything you did. For our country. For that kind of contribution. Yes. For everything he did he deserved a better gift. No.
Starting point is 00:10:21 The reward was the reward was a success, Greg. See you guys, this is why you guys will never be a part of something like this, because you're all of the material things. Where's your medal? Where's your, look, I just wanted to be part of something special and bring the team over the hump. And I think I did a great job of it, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:39 no, no, thank you. This is from anyone here. You guys are just, we're crying about Team USA losing in the Olympics, losing everywhere. Me and Camen save it, but you guys are doing nothing. Great, tell me I'm wrong. I was trying to beat T-MUSA. I wish you had gotten a better gift.
Starting point is 00:10:52 This is inu, and on improved and levatar show with the Stugas. Gamble on by Grafkins. Hello, someone's listening. I need help. I'm in Barcelona, and the creatures are everywhere. Hola, alguien me escucha, necesito ayuda. Estoy en Barcelona y las criaturas están por todas partes. A la islux, a la islux, escuchéis lo que escuchéis, tapados los ojos. La calle vamos todos a ciedas, pero lo más aterradores no saber en qué conciar. Uy de las personas que os piden que mireis, siiquere y sigo el convidio. Birdbox Barcelona, estreno en Netflix el 14 de julio. Te atreves a ver.
Starting point is 00:11:31 ¡Dándaleba TARD! Y finalmente, abstaining from food for 16-18 hours a day, could be key to treating a variety of health conditions like stabilizing blood sugar levels and increasing resistance to stress. Stugats! Michael, you doing something like this right now? I lost a lot of weight doing intermittent fasting and low carb, so now I'm getting back to it.
Starting point is 00:11:52 But how much in that six to eight hour window, how much can you eat unlimited? I could just eat unlimited, I'd do that. That'd be fun. For six to eight hours. You can't eat unlimited. Try me. No, no, I mean. VCs, they don't limitator show with the stugat
Starting point is 00:12:08 i am always legitimately delighted when i see this man's face because he is a spiritual gangster this man stugat was enduring physical pain on his body playing basketball forty years ago and is still an energy beast somehow must be in great physical pain and bring sunshine everywhere he goes. He is the absolute best. I once had him on stupidity. I asked him one question.
Starting point is 00:12:34 He answered in 35 minutes. It was the only question I asked and I'm pretty certain I've been to two or three dead and company shows with Bill. But Bill doesn't know he's been to two or three with me. It's unbelievable. I know. I't know he's been to two or three with me. It's unbelievable. I know. I do know it was through God's. Yeah, because I'm the luckiest dude in the world, man.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I was born into a world of hope, optimism, peace, love, books, and music. I got to know Dan Levitar years and years ago. I got to know it's through God's. I got to know all the other guys on your team. Now, I'm a team guy and I'm really enjoying this year's NBA finals. I found basketball when I was eight years old, three years after I found my bike. And then just one year later, I found Chick-Hern on the radio. And that changed everything for me.
Starting point is 00:13:18 When I was 15, I found the grateful dead stew, got used to LA and John wouldn't. Then when I was 17, I found the ultimate mentor, Ernie Vanduevate. 28 Marty Glickman taught me how to speak. When I was 37, I found the woman of my dreams, Laurie, the greatest, everything ever. She's not a thing, but I can't think of a better word than everything. We have six children, 14 grandchildren. When I was 55, Dr. Garfin, Dr. Listimps, and UC San Diego, they saved my life, fixing my spine. When I was 56, I found Pat Jochini and Ted Roth, who took Ernie van DuWayne's place. Now that I'm 70, I just found Jerry's middle finger. Now I have a chance at a full and complete life. I am the luckiest guy in the world. Believe it or not, ESPN is putting a 30 for 30 on my life
Starting point is 00:14:07 on TV the night. Now I Thought coming in and it was gonna be a movie about my friends about my teammates about the teams and the blazers Focus on that but things change along the way. Is it often does with a grateful dead show? When men the way they opened last night up in Burgess town in Pennsylvania, just west of Pittsburgh there. Wow, hell and a bucket into Alabama getaway. They were rockin' last night to be able to follow it all on nugs.net.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And, new guys, I hope to see you out there ASAP. I'm not sure what shows you're gonna be able to get to. But look for me, I'm the tall guy with the big smile on his face Trying to wave his arms in the air and celebrate the greatness of everything that we have But what is better right now than the NBA finals? My amy heat What a story man. They have made every one of their opponents quit And it's just remarkable because They're so good,
Starting point is 00:15:05 they're so disciplined, they play the team game, they're smaller than every team they play against, and they have all these guys, but they got Jimmy Butler and we're really hoping that his dad is gonna be okay. I just saw the news that his dad is having some difficulties out there. I was there when my dad died, it's just devastating. I was there
Starting point is 00:15:25 when my mom died too. And so, and then all these different guys who come into play. Kevin Love is just doing a remarkable job. Gabe Vincent Maxtrus, Kyle Lowry, one of my all-time favorites, a lot like Lionel Hollins, then. You just look at him and you say, he wins the games out there. And Caleb Martin is doing a fabulous job. Cody Zeller, really a critical component here. But bam on a bio. What bam is doing right now is absolutely spectacular. I love the way that guy plays.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Everybody's talking about, everybody's talking about Nicole Yolkesh, who is a brilliant player, who is radiant, who is transcendent, who is spectacular, empty that the Soros. But Bayam says, hey man, I've got a game too. And that's what you do. And now Miami has taken full control of this series. Their challenge is to keep it. Because Denver, they have to get back what got them game one, which is taking advantage of their size, strength, speed, quickness, and shooting ability.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And with the Kola Yokich playing the high post at the start of game one, and just dumping that ball in perfectly, puts the ball on time right on the mark and given it to Michael Porter and Aaron Gordon down low. Now granted, Kevin Lobb is a bigger and stronger and better defender than when they were going with Caleb Martin in the starting line up there. But then hopefully Kevin will be able to continue to play well. You never know. It's a basketball game. It's a dead show. It's a dead levertard show. You never know what's going to happen. You never know when you're going to go. And so here all these guys are. And when we talk about the remarkable success
Starting point is 00:17:06 of the Miami Heat this year, they made Milwaukee quit. Milwaukee was the heavy favorite to win the whole thing coming in. And they just made them quit. Then they go on and Miami takes on the nicks. And the nicks were playing fabulous ball. Yeah, they had a couple of late injuries and chasing. But nobody was slowing down Miami. Miami made the nicks and the nicks were playing fabulous ball. Yeah, they had a couple of late injuries and changes, but nobody was slowing down. Miami, Miami made the nicks quit and made them all look terrible. And then Boston, Boston had everything going for him. Boston, as soon as Milwaukee went out, everybody shifted over to Boston. And then Miami, improbably, they give up game six at home and then they go off to Boston
Starting point is 00:17:44 and they just crush them so reminiscent of the 74 finals when Boston went into Milwaukee and gave seven and one on the road that is the ultimate test and now you've got this team You cannot speak about the Miami-Gito and the way they play and how they play and who they've got without talking about Pat Riley Yes, Eric's Bolstrich is an incredible coach and we love everything that he does. Eric, he got his start there with the Portland Trailblazers. My initial franchise in the NBA back when I started, I'm gonna say that was, I don't even remember 50 years ago now.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I guess, I don't know. Where did the time go? But Eric's dad was a senior executive with the trailblazers. But what Pat Riley does is that he backs his coach. And he knows that he knows that the coach has to have management's backside all the time. And so Pat Riley does that. And these players, whoever they are, they know full well that if they quit on the team if they quit on Eric's bolster they're gonna their expulsors not going anywhere and
Starting point is 00:18:50 I love it when they keep showing Alonzo morning and Bob back to do it two of my all-time favorites and the way that Pat Riley has built this absolute great culture I am the luckiest guy in the world man this is so exciting such great basketball how are you guys doing today? Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm watching this show. I'm watching this show, the luckiest guy in the world, right? It's going to be on ESPN tonight at 8 o'clock Eastern. And I'm just thinking back. I mean, because they go way back.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Steve James is a remarkable television director. And he and his partner, Zach Piper, put it all together. Marsha Krook has kept it all together at ESPN. But as I have changed, as I have evolved, as I have grown up, it was just as the luckiest guy in the world, when I started in the NBA in 1974, which I'm going to say is now 49 years ago, I guess, and so I did not know how to play in the game of life. I was injured all the time with the undiagnosed stress fractures and no one believed that I was injured. So I was really up against it and I could not speak. Marty Glickman, the guy that opened up my mouth in terms of the
Starting point is 00:20:22 ability to communicate my thoughts and my dreams and that just really changed everything. But to look back and to see how unprepared I was, how unsuspecting I was, how undescerning I was. And hopefully I'm a lot better person today. My goal in life is to be better, to do better, and to do more. And what more could I ask for than to be on the Dan Levitard show here? Because this place rocks. And I look at your studio and I look at your team. And I'm just figuring that you guys are going to take on the ultimate winner of this series here. And with Miami in control, they cannot give up home court. You know, that when you're a great team, when you're going for that championship, and you do not lose on your home court.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And what they, what they have to do, they, you know, Jimmy is one of those guys who has at his best in the biggest of moments. And that's what I love. Competitiveness, be at your best when your best is needed. Gabe Vincent, all these guys, Max Struse, and then Caleb Martin and Duncan Robinson, these guys, their stories are just incredible. They're journey there. ESPN is gonna be doing a 60 for 60 on these guys out there, all four of them, as they've all come
Starting point is 00:21:45 together and the excitement in the arena down there in Miami tonight. Oh, no, the game is tomorrow night. The movie is tonight. The luckiest guy in the world. Bill, we are luckier than you, Bill. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate you time. We always appreciate your time. Your're smile, you're spiritual energy. Thank you, sir. I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I love Bruce Brown, too. I love Jeff Green, man. These guys, some of my favorite players ever in their stories. Bruce Brown reminds me a lot of Johnny Davis. We talked about Kyle Lowry and Lionel Holmes, but Johnny Davis was the fastest guy I've ever seen play basketball.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And you watch this movie tonight and Johnny Johnny's gonna be running at a different speed than everybody else, even though there was 46 years ago. Oh my gosh, and then Nicole and Yochitch. Oh my gosh. Nicole and Yochitch is like, well, one of the Florida keys, or he's like the big river of water coming right down through Central Florida and ending up there in the Everglades And just making it all happen. Just watch out for all the Alligators in here.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Dan Lippetard shows. You got for sure. Yeah! You're so good. You're so good. You're so phenomenal. Thanks for my life. We love you, Bill. We love you, Bill.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Thank you so much. I have to explain to the audience, this is a stupifying thing that has happened. Before that segment started, a mean was taking bets in the other room over under on number of questions that we would get to ask as a show of Bill Walton. Everyone took bets, everyone. The line was one and a half, one and a half,
Starting point is 00:23:27 the correct answer is zero questions. We never asked the question. I just made a statement. We gave applause and there were zero questions. I don't think anyone had zero. Did they have Roy had under with a lot of exclamation points? So I think Roy is the big winner here. Bill asked, that's the question.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I mean, so damn, damn, I learned from a modern Rashad. When I got started in Broadcasting, I was working a lot with a modern, and a modern, he just told me, hey man, when that microphone comes to you, don't give it up until they drink it off. Thanks for my life, guys. Here we go, the Dan Leverter,
Starting point is 00:24:02 so, for please come with me out, come pick me up, and where the deal goes down. New Gods, I'll see you out there, dead in company, tour John Mayer is taking it through the stratosphere. He is the coley-yoke, he is Jimmy Butler, he is Bama de Bio, he is Jamal Murray, and more. Thank you guys, here we go.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah! and more. Thank you guys. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah. Don Lebertard. Did you ever have a crush on a cartoon character? Oh, can I go? This isn't like question, but I did. Jessica Rabbit. Who frame Roger Rabbit? Yes. Yes. I think she was married to Roger Rabbit, even though he was a bunny, and she was a humanoidoid but they were both cartoons. Stugats!
Starting point is 00:24:46 I had a crush on Betty Rubble. Oh, wow. What? What? It was very good. I had to go. That was very good. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:24:55 With a surprise nomination from Stugats! Showing you his dirty, dirty, inner nine-year-old! This is the Don Lebert our show with this two cats I'm still trying to comb over all these reports because this is the biggest story in sports right now this unforeseen live PGA tour Merger that caught everybody by surprise and moves like this typically don't catch people by surprise It's dominating social media. Well, because some of the most valuable and influential golfers in the world
Starting point is 00:25:36 Who thought they were standing for something in a time that their sport Needed to stand for something and one of the rare occasions that golfers actually felt passionately about stuff to the point that they would sacrifice hundreds of millions of dollars in some respects closer to a billion when you consider Tiger Woods. This is a startling story. And Phil Mickelson, I don't know, all this stuff is kind of trickling in and i'm reminded that film michaelson was asked about the p g a championship and he kind of almost like an evil doer alluded to i know some things that others don't i wonder how much backchanneling there was through the live tour guys did they
Starting point is 00:26:18 keep this away from the p gator guys we haven't heard yet i don't think from rory mackle roi who is the most public voice against live and everything to be see the yeah has to be well but can we talk about what's happening underneath the ass guess guys yes we
Starting point is 00:26:36 can talk about the hundreds of millions that have been caused by the guys who took the stand see i think you want to do like the sari thing and i'm so beyond that we've had that show. We've done that a million times. That's a realization. Yeah, I think what happened really is a PGA didn't want to go through discovery, didn't want to go through litigation
Starting point is 00:26:54 and risk their tax exempt status. I am far more interested in how the PGA is going to manage the personalities and is going to manage the fact that people are now back into the tour and their deals with live aren't going away. Those are contracts. So the people that decided to stand for something are totally screwed. Who backed the commissioner, who backed the tour, and then the tour announces this without telling its place without the people who backed it. Are Are the Saudis gonna end up making some of these golfers whole?
Starting point is 00:27:25 But now Rory is having to take, if this is a true merger, Rory is going to have to do something that he didn't wanna do, which is receive money from the Saudis. And this was just detonated. How do they go about managing this? And you also wonder how people in the media, like my dad is somebody who was rooting against Brooks Keppga
Starting point is 00:27:49 in these recent majors, because he's one of the live guys. People thought differently of them, like are you just gonna welcome them back in? Like you tried to make a st- That's why it was hard when you were making those stances. It's all murky. This is very- it's hard to start throwing stones at one when you get very hypocritical, very quick.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Chris, I'll tell you this two days ago, Jack Nicholas wrote off Brooks Capka. Like he's not part of the tour. I mean, he just won the PGS. Think about that. Think about that. One of the Titans of this sport. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And just wrote a guy off. Yeah, he said they're not even involved in golf anymore. Yeah, as far as he's concerned. They have just appeared. just appeared hugely embarrassing. Oh, there, there has to be enough money in this deal. I'm, I'm certain of it to make everybody feel okay by this. But right now, they're going to be a lot of bruise. He goes and a huge difference in variance in salary structure
Starting point is 00:28:45 for some of these golfers on the tour that decided to cast aside some of their moralities and take bigger paychecks. Some of those golfers that went to live it's real genuine life changing money. But I don't understand how the PGA could look at some of these golfers in the face after this. I think some of the golf galleries are always going to boo the
Starting point is 00:29:06 Capca's and the live golf guys. They're always going to be the live golf faction even after the merger. But I also think live golf as part of this merger has to make it right financially for the majority of the players who are getting screwed. They just have to. I got to tell you I am honestly might keep saying this is a huge shock is nobody knew about it and i uh... maybe i sound like a no-one i say it but i'm less surprised by the idea that just general greed would win all right let's start there that general greed would win doesn't matter where
Starting point is 00:29:41 the money comes from will get all the money and of course michael send his right p g a you were bleepen as you were matter where the money comes from. We'll get all the money. And of course, Michelson is right. PGA, you are bleeping us. You are taking all the money. I'm going to go get this blood money over there. I'm going to change the rules. And now the PGA is like, okay, you could change the rules. Yeah, we were taking all the money. Let's all share all the money and let's throw in some blood money. And Mike says, I've been doing that show. I've been doing that show. Look at how quickly the morality is fall. Where all of you are like saying, and I wonder this, how they'll change the golf tour. I wonder how everything will be different now in sports because Jack Nicholas is saying he's written this guy off golfers took
Starting point is 00:30:10 a stand and what happened the other guys got the money yes now my dad is saying as long as the Saudi spreads out the money for everyone that was gonna get it originally I'm good with it right now I think it's terrible what's happened I think the merger is terrible. And as I said before, Monahan, the commissioner, is out of here for the way he bungled his merger. He probably just dropped his job is to make that entity as much money as possible. He protected their tax exempt status.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And who knows the money that is now my point my point is the stance takers lose here Okay, and yes, there will be plenty of money. Yes oil dirty blood money We'll sports wash all of it and they just bought golf and I'm not gonna sit here and tell you again Yes, a lot of moral hypocrisies everywhere, but Tiger Woods who never took a stand in his life Just lost a billion dollars for taking one and all of us are like What do it look like when they get together again and it's fill in tiger at the end of one of these majors that's all murky. Yeah, well, actually, I don't think all of us are going there.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm genuinely wondering how some of these golfers step up to a PGA T box right now. And I've been told, as soon as this show is over, I'm going to put on golf network and try to see because everyone's genuinely confused. Have you ever done that before? I've never rushed to golf network to find talking heads talking about something because they're far more informed than gas bags like us. I know all the media shows, the big ones national and scope. They're not in the weeds in this. We're still learning about this. The biggest insiders in the sport were shocked and surprised by this. Everybody except for Phil Mikkelson who left a crumb, just so he can look like a badass in retrospect. There's a prime opportunity here and I'm not being facetious for a mutiny of PGA tour
Starting point is 00:32:02 players led by Rory and others like him to break off and start a separate tour. I don't know how that would work. I don't even know if it's feasible, but this is a moment in time. I'm not even sure if it was that could happen. It was live even feasible. Or live survived because of this almost infinite pool of money. Because live as a business was failing. Terribly, the CW, nobody watches that. The team golfing, unless it's the writer cup,
Starting point is 00:32:31 golf fans don't care about the team concept. But which is right here, Greg Cuddy saying, fire the commissioners, do got to saying, he's the most powerful man over running the dirty sport right now. Well, he just made himself, by doing this, he made himself the most powerful man in that sport who's overse it over? Seeing the entire sport? What's the power structure? Who's in charge? It is a bad look for the commissioner of golf who when people were leaving to join live invoked 9-11 and now a year later makes a deal with that lead. Oh, yeah, he's a,
Starting point is 00:32:58 I mean, I've never never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never do this. He blindsided his players. He blindsided his, I think that's the worst part because they never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, along with it i i don't know how this shakes out you mentioned what if the golfers band together and certain new one i'm like live and lived in even work with all these resources short lived stu got uh... stu got as a front of him it's not surprising that in this era of greed and take whatever blood money it is
Starting point is 00:33:40 you can take from every corner stu got just showed me something and mike was pointing it out to me earlier as well the uh... voice who could have warned you that all of this was coming a voice i think we can all agree uh... spiritually centered and about all the right principles uh... donald trump told you this would happen uh... donald trump uh... the quote that still got to have some from donald trump in what year two thousand
Starting point is 00:34:03 july nineteen two thousand twenty two Trump said all those golfers that remain loyal to the very disloyal pga will pay a big price when the inevitable merger with live comes and you get nothing but a big thank you from pga officials wow I hate someone to agree with Trump. Well, you agree with it. What do you mean? He told you this was going to happen. I know. And I have to give him a... You agree with his prediction? You agree that his prediction is correct?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah, that's what happens. You have the results. Okay, great work by you, Greg. Go sit in the penalty box. Wow! I can continue today's delirium. He's out of material. He's done. He doesn't have anything left. Was it Tiger Woods starting like a top golf league? What happened to that? Yeah, but that one had a partnership with PGA
Starting point is 00:34:48 and it was like gonna be on, it was gonna be nighttime and it was gonna be like a different kitschy thing. You should leave Greg, that was terrible. What you said is you agree with Trump that the prediction was correct. Also, one of the things I hate to agree with Trump about anything and I have to give him props for being right about it. You hate to give him props for something.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I hate that. Right, I understand. Yeah, it's confusing times. One of the things that the majors at least had going for it. One of the things that the majors had going for it was that you had this budding rivalry. People were like saying, the Ryder Cup just needs to be live versus PGA, because that had some budding rivalry. People were like saying, the Ryder Cup just needs to be live versus PGA because that had some juice to it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And it wasn't, I guess it Christianity. Like you at Capca going against PGA tour members. Yeah, and it made the master PGA. Yeah, I mean, there's a great turn in the rivalry that Brooks Capca wins the PGA championship. And I'm just, I'm allowed to be stunned by this just because there was no heads up, no signs that this was common. And, and you have really influential people that thought they were for the first time standing up for something and they got left out on an island. And the way that you make it good with them is here. Here's a big fat check from the entity you didn't want to take the big fat
Starting point is 00:36:07 check from somehow Dustin Johnson has been made to look smart. It's unbelievable. No, it feels aginious. I will people are praising film right now. Genius people are praising it. Hold on a second. He's a genius. No, that thing's happening. The pie and other thing. Take morality is out of it. Tell take morality is out of it. Everybody that love of God. Take morality's out of it. Everybody that ended up jumping to live
Starting point is 00:36:28 played it absolutely right. If this is a result. That is correct, Mike, but the important part of your sentence is take morality's out. Yeah, cast aside the morality's. Like the important part of your sentence, yes. Yes, to make it is good business.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yes, to cast aside your morality. Yep, absolutely. Agreed. Unsurprising that that would win in today's America Yeah, totally unsurprising that the guys who are already fat cats in the country club are Greg Norman and Mikkelson fighting over who can have more golf courses And now guys no guys like Rory are having their Their Moralities ripped away from them. That's correct because bad the bad guys are and we will move on quickly too We will all move on quickly with whatever the more of them.
Starting point is 00:37:06 If they have them monopoly. Yes, Phil Mickelson will win a business if he has the fewest moralities. You're gonna watch them ask. Correct, you're gonna not watch a master. The winner will always be the greatest of the cheaper cheaters. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:37:17 The greatest of the cheaters will always and forever win. Yes, if they're willing, are you talking about it? If they're willing to be known as cheaters. Yes, cash your soul for cheating. Yes.

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