The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: A Little Slice Backhand
Episode Date: July 31, 2024Dan's breath is taken away by Simone Biles and what she was able to do while the Women's Gymnastics Team won Gold in Paris. Biles is possibly the most dominant athlete in sports with yet another gold ...at age 27. Plus, which QB should be part of the 'Cannon Club'. Stugotz says he can return a serve from an Olympic table tennis player - can he? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Don LeVittor Show with the Stoogats Podcast.
Izzy Gutierrez is in with us today.
Did that go out on air, Chris Cody? Is that where we started today?
That was a call back to yesterday's show. We had so many things happen yesterday. Let's do it again today.
Let's just keep doing that. It's always fun. One of my favorite things is right out of the gate
when we just trip and fall on our face. Just what I needed. Somebody has written in here,
Dan's unique talent is to make me want to disagree with
him about something he supports strictly because of how obnoxious and whiny he sounds delivering
it.
Kicker is that most of the time I already agree with him.
I do think that's my unique talent.
I do believe that that talent is something I have more than any other talent.
Make people who agree with you disagree with you.
That's right.
Just because of tone and not even the substance
of what I'm saying, it's just my face.
It's a Jedi mind trick, it's just the Levitard one.
This is also fair criticism, I think.
Dan is wild, I don't think he's ever just said I was wrong
without some elaborate explanation
as to why he actually wasn't wrong.
Everyone else is just too simple to understand
his deepest thought processes.
I believe that's also correct.
It is, what do you mean you believe?
Well, I'm not sure.
To say that it's correct would be to admit I'm wrong.
You confirming it doesn't prove anything.
Do a lot of, oh I'm sorry that's
not what I meant, this is what I meant. That's correct. The part that you think
is wrong, that's not what I meant. I just meant the parts that you think are right.
But I did want to talk about something to start the show here today because I'm
always talking about the fact that I think that sports media coverage cruelty makes it
so that it's very hard to simply celebrate greatness in sports
conversationally and what I wanted to talk about as it relates to Simone Biles
is something that happened with me watching her that I was legitimately surprised happened to me which I had a hiccup of breathlessness
my breath taken away from when she lands the way that she lands because I realize I'm watching
something that goes beyond where I thought human limits used to be and when she hits in that corner without taking a step that the sound
yes summons something in me a hiccup a hiccup of my breath taken away and so I know there
are times in sports all over sports a goal horn a moment of drama hell the rugby result
yesterday where the last play of the game you're winning the game.
There are all sorts of things that happen all the time in sports that are like that,
but I wanted to ask the group where in sports do you find the things like that that are
celebratory in nature and test human limits or what you think about human limits so much
that your breath is literally taken away in the moment of what it is that you're
witnessing because you're like, how does a human being do that?
That is well beyond anything I've been able to see a human being ever do.
How does that human being do something so much better than everyone else who was working
just as hard as she is at what it is they do?
Who's ever done it, those two gods.
You think you know something.
No, we're not experts.
I watched that floor exercise last night.
That's the stuff that takes your breath away,
but there have been some stuff online recently
where they've had actual D1 gymnasts
just try to do a move that she does,
like that spin, like crouch down move,
I forget what it's called, on the balance beam.
And they can't do it one time, she does it three times.
Meanwhile, you're talking about her landing
like perfectly on a move named after her.
Yeah, it's breathtaking.
Call me old school, but a 104 mile an hour fastball
still gets me going.
Huh, you've been struggling with the speaking lately.
What's going on with you?
What's going on with you?
I'm just saying more words maybe, I mean this is me.
It's that me and Chris do a bit of a pingong match where we'll all like miss say words, right?
And then he'll look back at me and then I'll look back at him and I'll say something like I got you
Tristan human, what'd you say? 104 mile an hour fastball
Okay, like I stumbled on like one little word in there. It's pretty clear what I said
You see a 104 mile hour fastball and you go, hiccup? Like Dan last night.
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
You sure you just didn't have the hiccups?
This is a whole segment built on a little gas?
I wasn't left breathless because I
realized that I had to save my breath for a more pressure
filled competition.
The US entered that medal round in the team gymnastics final,
a minus 1300 favorite to
win the gold.
In fact, if you watch her routines, for her, which is the curve that she's established,
she played it kind of safe.
Yes, the difficulty level, especially with the floor exercises, way up there, but if
she'll step out of bounds or she won't get as much height, these are things that she
was playing a little bit more safe with her routines with.
They had the gold wrapped up.
So like there was an interesting moment in which when she was on the floor, because we
all know what's hovering over all of this is the pressure and what happened at the previous
Olympics. There was a moment where she just basically has to avoid a total disaster and they win
the gold, but all the other rotations stopped and all eyes were on her.
And it took something that already has a fair amount of pressure, just made it way more
tense.
But for me, I'm saving my breath for like the all around, the individual competitions
because the competition is going to be so much more heightened and the pressure will correspond with that. They talked about it her and Jordan
Childs talked about when they knew they won the gold and that was when Simone
hit her vault because that was when they were like oh okay we're not gonna have
flashbacks to Japan she's gonna be okay and that's all she has to be is okay and
they're still going to win. I don't know if any of you guys watched the the
latest documentary with her on Netflix.
I liked it.
I thought it was.
I'm watching the Peacock one.
Okay, okay.
This one, it's very much like the Sprinter one,
the Receiver one, it's all sort of cookie-cutter,
but this one, the thing that got me about Simone Biles
is I always thought of her as this perfect athletic robot,
like this princess, because obviously they started
at such a young age in gymnastics,
and she has been so good, almost robotic in how good she is.
This humanized her in a way that made me say, oh wow, like I'm going to feel the pressure
for her more than I did back before I knew her, because I thought she was just, again,
this freak of nature who can do this at a moment's notice with no practice.
Even after her bailing on, oning on the last time we saw her
have to deal with pressures of this kind
and saying, I'm not gonna do that,
I feel like I'm gonna get physically hurt.
It felt to me like a computer glitch, that.
Especially because there was no fans,
everything was different,
and so it probably felt different to her,
and I was like, oh, okay, they'll reprogram her,
she'll be fine.
But then watching that and seeing just the lack of confidence that comes up even when I was like, oh, okay, they'll reprogram her, she'll be fine. But then watching that and
seeing just the lack of confidence that comes up even when she was younger, even when she knows
that she's the best in the world, all that is just hard to fathom when you're as good as she is.
But yeah, it humanized her in a way that made me feel a lot more pressure for her in these games.
It was kind of a relaxing experience to watch, to know that they kind of had it locked up because I have a strange amount of connection points as a 38 year old white Hispanic male
who can't do anything near what she can do, but was in front of microphones, was defending
her, was someone that suffered with performance anxiety and self doubt and panic and all that
stuff.
So I was already locked in and fully invested.
But also as someone that has provided all that context,
just an admirer of the competition, peak athletics,
and actually conquering your demons,
I reserve my breath for what's to come later on.
And I wasn't totally blown away by it
because she had to play it safe and it was a team
competition, the rules are totally different.
But the team competition to me, and I'm curious what
Jess thinks about this, is because you mentioned your age
and so to me, like I came up with Mary Lourette
and I mentioned it yesterday and how difficult it was
for the US women to reach the top and now that they've
stayed there for such a long time, something of a
gymnastics dynasty if you will,, how do you see that?
Because I've always seen it as so stressful, so difficult,
and that this team has overcome so much.
Whereas now it just feels like kind of a cakewalk.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
I would say that this team is definitely peerless, I guess you could say.
Like they won by six points.
And then I think the bronze was another seven points behind that so they
Really didn't have much competition
But you still have to go out there and actually perform and do it which that in itself takes so much strength and especially
Given all of the horrible scandals in US gymnastics over the last 10 years
Just knowing that these are athletes that have been through that and have seen like the really ugly side of
gymnastics too. I don't really take anything for granted with them.
I think everything that these athletes have accomplished should get the most praise because of how difficult the road has been and just
even how difficult the sport really is to compete in. It's so hard.
I mean, these are these are athletes that start competing
at such a young age, and it just,
I can't even imagine how difficult it must be
to go through it and then to ultimately win gold.
It must feel so cathartic, cathartic especially.
Um.
I'm glad it still feels that way.
Just waiting.
Because for me, for somebody who's been watching them
as so great for so long, I thought that
maybe you'd take it for granted.
No, I definitely not.
And especially because there were former gymnasts that were formerly competing for the US that
did make negative comments about this team that these, you know, gold medal, medal winners
heard and internalized and then kind of threw back at in their faces.
Uh, I thought that that was another really, uh, nice way to end it too.
Given, given what she dealt with and all the other people that don't follow the sport whatsoever, forcing their takes.
And it became something that, that spiraled into just a mass scandal.
I much like kind of Megan Rapinoe
with the pressure with the World Cup
because there was all sorts of political stuff
going around her, I wanted her to reach the top
to shut everybody up.
And for Simone, I want her to have a situation
when she's challenged where everyone can acknowledge,
wow, how is she gonna do this?
Not only is everyone bringing their game,
but she also has to battle herself in this moment.
Her own, her physical and mental,
she has to overcome all of that.
And I kinda want to see those moments play out
as an admirer of her,
admirer of the amazing things these people can do
that I have zero connection point to.
I wanna see that. You heard their team name, right?
Why is this music playing right now?
Golden girls, but what are we doing?
What she said was the official it wasn't an effort and find out is it I
This segment needs a bed. That's what I was thinking midway through. Yeah
Well, at least it's not a dangerous topic, kinda, to like have a bed interrupt
you in the middle of your take.
Because everyone's being forced to sleep by it.
Talking about Olympics.
Did someone say dynasty?
I didn't hear anything else, but I did hear dynasty.
Was there dynasty talk?
There's a dynasty.
Really?
The women's dynasty.
Wow, I love a good dynasty.
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Don Lebatard.
Punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call.
Strike one would be strike. And then you stand up and you give a good point to the right still gods
That's same for strike two, but strike three you get down low. You got your hands behind the catcher
All right, the right arm goes up into the air. Yeah, and then you finish it with the punch
The right arm flings way up into the air
I wish I could see that. It's terrible.
The audio's great.
This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats.
I have in front of me here some Cody criticism that is coming fast and hard from yesterday.
Not Chris Cody.
Hmm.
Greg Cody. What? I get the show, but listening to Greg Cody,
who has never been the best columnist at his own newspaper,
Oh wow.
complain about the US gymnastics team,
celebrating third place, had me the closest
I've ever been to wanting to punch an elderly man.
I've thrown three punches in my entire life.
I also got a text from a friend
of mine who used to be a gymnast and he wrote, I'm two seconds into your first hour and I
bleeping want to kill Greg Cody for shitting on my men's gymnastics team. Stugats can go
bleep off as well. What did I do? It's the hardest sport in the world sans wrestling and those guys went 18 for 18 and hit routines
It was a magical night and Stugats and Cody shit all over it
Because they finished in third place. What do you mean? What did you do? They were good. Just not good enough
I mean, I'm sorry the ultimate Cody
Sequel would have been if he came in
today and said that the US women's team didn't celebrate enough they should have
celebrated more because they got gold. I would have loved to hear his take on the
US women's rugby team who won bronze on a walk-off and apparently we're supposed
to celebrate with handshakes according to Greg Cody. That's correct. Tony at some
point today I am gonna send you into Miami with prizes for people on the street,
anyone who can name a single Marlin.
Anyone who right now, a single current Marlin,
because the Marlin payroll is now under $14 million.
They've traded every player.
They're paying no one more than $2.1 million.
We can just do that in the studio.
I don't know if I could name one right now
I'm curious if Tony dresses in preparation to be thrown out onto the street every day because it feels like you get tossed out
Quite often just just in case the only issue I have with that Dan is if they tell me somebody
I don't know whether to confirm like if they're a model so like I need somebody there
Jokes on you the valleys'm marlin' with you.
Jokes on you.
The Bally's blackout meant that I didn't know anybody's name before the deadline.
All you have to do is have a roster, Tony.
A printed roster.
I know though now, this happened to me the other day on Pablo Torre Finds Out, because
I was using physical paper in my hand, Mina and Pablo were making fun of me for using
physical paper in my hand. So you don't even fun of me for using physical paper in my hand.
So you don't even have to print out a roster, I suppose.
You could just on your phone.
You can just have it on your phone.
But you know me, I like to have my hands loose.
I like to have the mic making things happen.
So I need somebody else to hold it for me.
If you were to count just guessing around the room, the total number of punches thrown
by people in this studio, what would you say that number?
Because I had this thought the other day.
I think Dan is the leader. I've people in this studio. What would you say that number is? Because I had this thought the other day. I think Dan is the leader.
I've been in one fight.
I don't think I actually threw a punch.
Hang on.
Does anyone else have a sister?
Because I think that puts me head and shoulders
above the rest of you.
Well, I do, but I didn't punch them.
I had a fight where all I did was throw one kick.
So not a punch.
No, I've thrown punches in a fight before, too.
Like a Mazvadal?
But like, yeah, yeah.
You know, I knocked the wind out of some dude in elementary. Ironically enough, thrown punches in a fight before too. Like a Mazvodal? But like, yeah, yeah.
You know, I knocked the wind out of some dude in elementary.
Ironically enough, his name was also Mike Ruiz.
Wow.
Just a kick though?
Was it like a?
Yeah, it was a Black Belt and Kempo.
Couple of Mike Ruiz's.
Cutting it up.
Kicking it up, he charged me.
So it was a front kick?
No, no, it was just like a little sidekick
that I put a little something on and I knocked the wind out of him.
Boom. Five done.
The king of the micro-eases.
You guys were... That's what we were fighting about.
Making fun of me because of the hiccup of the breath taken away, but only Chris Cody gave me something that actually produced that feeling for him of all in sports because the reason i bring it up right i was making fun of
stew got to and cody yesterday for being so hard and about
uh... having seen so much sports that they can't muster enthusiasm for a
third-place finish in the olympics
because it's not good enough for them because they've just the world weary
about sports the same can be said that me and I'm surprised that it's not up on me
that way because I know what I'm watching I know the greatness I'm
watching I know that this has no precedent what this she's older than a
girl now right she said she's just. She's 27. Yeah, but yeah, okay, sorry. I know
it's easy to do that, especially in that sport, but there's a 33-year-old Brazilian gymnast
now, much like sports medicine and sciences advanced in other sports, it's happening in
gymnastics as well, and you're seeing much older athletes than you used to. There's a
39-year-old who's leading our basketball team. He's playing great. He's playing as well and you're seeing much older athletes than you used to. There's a 39 year old who's leading our basketball team. He's playing great.
He's playing as well as he's ever played.
I'm starting to wonder if he's going to play in the LA games. Seriously.
Four years from now. He's already said he's not going. He said,
that's what he says now. We'll see what happens. LA is hometown.
Keep the door open. We'll see. Get Ronnie on the team. I mean, how about that?
Wow. That would be quite the accomplishment.
Not just get him into the NBA,
but get him onto the Olympic team, whew.
Over Jalen Brown.
Over Jason Tatum.
Chris Cody, do you have for me the sound of you
trying to say 104 miles per hour?
Yep, right here.
Must feel so cathartic, cathartic especially.
Yeah.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
What, Wade?
That is not right.
That was me hiccuping like Dan last night.
That is not fair.
Breathtaking.
You don't have, then, the sound of you saying it.
All right, I have it.
104 mile an hour fastball.
You screw up mile an hour one time.
It's a tough one.
And you can't talk.
It's got to get your tongue down a little bit. I don't think an hour one time and you can't talk.
I don't think it's a ridiculous thing to say or experience. Sports take my breath away all the time but it just I guess it was just so academic for them to win the gold that I couldn't bring
myself there. You want to see here in pressure moments right but you're saying you'll get that
in the individuals. It's kind of weird because I do but I don't. Like I don't want to see her in pressure moments, right? But you're saying you'll get that in the individuals. It's kind of weird because I do, but I don't.
Like I don't want to see her tested that way,
but I want her to shut everybody up.
It's kind of weird.
Like, if it does bring up a performance anxiety
and she has to overcome that and she succeeds,
that's amazing.
If it becomes too much for her,
I don't think anybody wants to see that
or have those conversations again. So I don't I don't know I
Here's what I'm rooting for her to do awesome her to overcome everything
You have a challenge like no no no I want her to be challenged. I want the pressure to be there
I feel like that was like from the Olympics four years ago. I'm hearing like I'm like Asian influence here
It's very distracting Mike
I think her challenge is going to be now
just being in the individual competition and not having the support of her teammates, not knowing
that hey my first two teammates nailed their routine. I just have to be average and we'll be good.
She's got to be probably at about 90% to win the all-around for her comfortably and that means,
you know, one fall on the balance beam, one sort of tweak of her calf on the floor and maybe she doesn't do you know the
bot that first run it to completion so I think there's definitely pressure on
her now a little bit different but I think that team competition really
settled her don't you guys think she wants that pressure she wants to
challenge herself she's one of the great athletes we've ever seen yes yeah she's
saying all the right things she's gonna overcome it if you've watched any of the cut the content around it in any of her interviews She's saying all the right things. To see if she can overcome it. If you've watched any of the content around it
in any of her interviews, she's saying all the right things
and she's excelling in her field of play.
But she's not overconfident.
She's not selling herself as like this NFL guy,
I'm the best receiver in the league.
She's being honest and that's what I love.
That's what I feel like I learned from her
in that Netflix doc that I feel is continually coming true now.
She is just not the perfect human being, the perfect athlete.
She's got things to overcome as well.
Yeah, and it's a unique prism to have the conversation about performance anxiety and
athletics too because everyone would acknowledge she's the best.
You can understand if someone's chasing Simone, why they're feeling performance anxiety, but it's a
it was really difficult the last time we had these conversations for people to wrap their head around
her specifically feeling performance anxiety and that's why you had a lot of people coding
what she was doing as quitting. It's not just that she's the best, it's that now that Serena Williams is retired I'm trying to think around sports where I find someone who's that much better than anyone around them
Anywhere like a level of dominance where you Wilson this season? Yeah, she's playing insane
And the US women's basketball team they won on Monday against was it Monday or Sunday I can't remember against Japan not their best shooting day I had like two
three-pointers still won by 26 points doesn't matter who's shooting around you
if you have Asia Wilson Brianna Stewart who I think Shaq felt that level of
dominance when he was at his peak more so than LeBron just because of his size
I think Mahomes does right now that's's a great one. Yeah, yeah. It's funny that you should say Mahomes because I'm not sure Mahomes
would say that when the playoffs started last year. Like given the problems that like you were
doubting you were very loudly doubting Mahomes and that this incarnation that incarnation of the team
was the weakest in the last five years and the most doubted
We've seen in the last five years
I would assume if Simone Biles can be subject to doubt that Patrick Mahomes too in that spot could be subject to that
McDavid flashes it to where he does things that no one else can do
It's harder to stick out in a team sport because there's so many variables
I don't think Mahomes is any less excellent if his team falls short against a very good San Francisco 49er team. I think I'd apply the context of
the limitations of the receiving corps and what not and struggling to bring them online.
It's a lot easier in solo sports. If a golfer is locked in, oh I see that with Scheffler.
In combat sports you see it manifest physically, mono on mono. If you have a pound for pound MMA
fighter or boxer
that's just dominant, you can understand it
because it's easier, because there's no one else
that's muddying things up.
If Simone comes back in the States for the next Olympics
and wins all gold, and maybe even gets a picture
that Dan loves holding the flag as the flag bearer,
she's gonna be the next LeBron.
Like, that is the type of thing that's untouchable.
She's already feels like it's untouchable.
If LeBron gets out of the way, I mean.
Right, but imagine at 31, a gymnast at 31 years old
participating and winning some level of gold
or some form of gold, whether it be team or individual,
that would be something that I just don't know
if anybody can touch.
McDavid is a great one because of how rare the thing
I'm talking about is you're watching all of these other people do the same thing
at the same time and you're looking at one of them and saying this one is just
so much more athletically gifted. He stands out. He's one of the best skaters on
the planet not a good skater for, like a great skater for humans.
But Simone Biles' athleticism and the height that she gets on things where you're like,
how is any of that possible?
Mahomes does something like that with some of the trick plays.
Dan, he takes something that we all know to be very difficult and makes it look fairly
I'm going to Super Bowls with Kaderius Tony. Yes
understood
but
Josh Allen
Has better arm strength like it's had something that you're what you're watchable
I mean, let's put that on TNT right now, right?
But I'm taking my homes against while Josh Allen is the guy put it on TNT right now. Right. I'm taking Mahomes against. Wow, Josh Allen is the guy.
Put it on the poll at Levitard Show.
Stephen Morris.
He had a cannon.
Mike is right.
You had to be there.
It wasn't accurate, but he had a cannon.
You had to be there.
He's probably going to run back for six the other way.
All right.
Put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard Show.
Better arm strength.
Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, or Stephen Morris.
Oh, man.
I thought he was going to be so good. A Allen, or Stephen Morris? Go ahead.
I thought he was gonna be so good.
A couple of coin tosses.
Go ahead and put that on the poll.
Also put on the poll, does rugby seem like a sport
that was made up by bouncers at LeBattard Show?
Because every time I'm watching that,
I'm like, what's everyone out there doing?
Sevens is crazy.
They are just running full speed the entire time.
I don't really understand what's happening,
but it is like shocking every time I watch it.
Someone has explained it to me several times
how it's safer than Tackle 4 All,
but I don't really see it.
My boyfriend who played rugby,
and he's explaining it to me,
and I still don't know what's going on.
But before we close the loop on Simone Biles,
I don't think it can be overstated
how much she's changed gymnastics. Like she has transformed the entire sport
and she has transformed US gymnastics in particular. So regardless of how she does in the individual
events or in the all around, or if she comes back in four years to compete, she has already
left her mark on the sport and on fans. And like there's really no accomplishment that
she needs to now complete to have her name as the like predominant name in the legacy of US
gymnastics forever. Oh but she's got to win. She but she already has. Yeah but
she's got to win more. Like this is a bad boy. No she doesn't really though. She's already become the Michael Phelps.
Like Michael did Michael Phelps have to win at the tail end of his Olympic run?
I think that that's the barometer.
At her peak, she was unbeatable.
I agree with everything Jessica is saying, and if she loses, it will be crushing for
all people involved who celebrate her.
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Don Lebatard.
Sports.
Stugats.
More sports.
This is the Don Lebatard show Sports. Stugats. More sports. This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats.
What were you saying about a Cannon Club? There's a website called CannonClub.com,
NFL's greatest arms. I have their rankings. They have Mahomes number one, they have Josh
Allen number two, they have four of three all time. Stephen Morris not on the list.
It's a canon club.
You guys are very comfortable saying that Mahomes has better arm strength than Josh
Allen and I thought it was just an understood consensus that Josh Allen has the biggest
arm in the sport.
I didn't think that was even something up for debate and it's no knock
on the arm of my homes obviously, but I just simply assumed that no one can throw the ball
harder and farther than Josh Allen.
Ha!
Yes. Alright, you know what?
Flip it.
Minor penalty, two minutes stumbling.
Michael Vick threw a ball out of a stadium.
You forget that?
You know what?
I brought that up the other day.
I was thinking that Michael Vick had the greatest arm that I'd ever seen.
It wasn't accurate, but he had a cannon.
That's lefty arm?
Vinny had a cannon too.
Is it me or does Lamar Jackson look like he flings it like a frisbee?
Like if he really let it go, he could toss it 70 yards if he wanted to.
He's like one of those guys, he doesn't have like,
he looks like he would have arm troubles.
They need to bring that competition back. I miss the old quarterback club competitions.
And the pants.
Bring that back.
The Zubaz.
Wait, Mike, what was it? Like refresh me here on quarterback.
It would be during the Pro Bowl, they would make just a specific TV special that would air on ESPN.
Like if you got home early from school one day, you would see Jim Horbaugh throwing a
football that had blue powder at the end of it at a bullseye driven by some dude in a
golf cart.
That was the best.
It really was.
That's how you could tell Dan Marino was the most talented quarterback just by the way
he walked around those other guys.
He knew he had the cannon. He knew it was like Larry Bird at the three-point
contest. Yeah the quarterback club went away in the late 90s they need to bring
that subdivision of the NFLPA back. Just redo the posters of the quarterback
club all wearing like Zubas and and jackets. The throwback that yeah, I could never throw it out of the stadium
Like Vic did so wait just to be clear. That was a powerade commercial was it that nope? No, it's real. It was real
Okay, completely out of the stadium. So you're saying my homes could never do that
They're saying here on canonclub.com that my homes is thrown a football 85 yards
Alan 80 yards.
I don't know if that's the way you measure
who has the best arm, but I guess it is.
It seems like a pretty good way to measure it.
How would you gauge it?
By literally measuring it.
The size of their arms.
Will Levis to me, cannon.
If you squint.
So if you throw it harder, but shorter distance,
you have a better, bigger cannon
than if you throw it farther?
I think distance is the key, no?
Well, I think distance, the key is is can you put some touch on the ball?
Do you get a running start is this the rules should be three five three? Yeah five step job break it down arms
And and just like one step into the throw. You can't get a running. Sorry
That's for a different competition
I'll bowler through from the 50 yard line on his knee over into the goalpost past the goalpost different competition
It is that's a good arm though. Stand still. All right, that's a name though for the quarterback club
Kyle bowler very tail end you can kind of recognize
Throw it into the field goalpost like on what's wrong with the Cannon Club
Hey Dan, I wanted to get back to something that with stugatsi yesterday when we were talking about this uh...
competition show olympics that we're doing and somehow and i don't know how
this happened exactly
i've been ensnared in the swimming portion of the competition
but when i left the show yesterday it actually it, it made me laugh, this idea that I neglected
to see when we were talking about it.
In the spirit of Stugatz and Greg Cody always overestimate their own abilities and underestimate
the abilities of great athletes, Stugatz actually said the key to our race is he and I getting
to the wall and spinning and going the other way
Oh, yeah, I'm like you think we're actually gonna speed up and do that
Well, you think that that's something I am you and I are gonna do well
Are you even gonna know when the wall is approaching that is correct? My eyes are gonna be closed
I'm gonna be holding my nose swimming with one arm
I had the same thought to be fair because like the moves that they do to turn and then
push off the wall, they're very choreographed.
It's the hardest thing in sports.
It's probably one of the hardest things.
Other than the butterfly looks terrible.
I would never want to do that one.
Seriously, it's so slow.
It looks so awful to do.
Every other stroke fine.
You could sell me on the backstroke. You could sell me on the backstroke.
You could sell me on the freestyle.
I don't know how they do the butterfly.
I don't want to be stroking it that way.
You guys aren't going to believe what just happened in here.
He pantomimed the butterfly stroke and then muttered, ow, under his breath because he's
been complaining about his arm for about two weeks, saying he's got some sort of pain that
makes me think that he,
it scared me a couple of times
that his arm hurts this much
because arm pain can suggest in people of our age
some heart difficulties.
The ticker's doing just fine, Dan-O, just fine.
We may have to cancel this swim meet though.
I mean.
Didn't they also say they could get a point,
Greg Cody said they can get a point
off of a Olympic ping pong player?
Stugat said that he could do that.
I did.
He had a little slice backhand.
I mean...
You wouldn't touch the ball.
Not the guy I was watching this morning.
Oh my God.
His serve was crazy.
Jessica, not anybody.
He cannot get a point off anybody who's winning an Olympic gold medal.
We said that the last time and then the 6'11 tennis guy guy whose name is escaping me right now Riley O'Pelka
Riley O'Pelka returned to serve with a cigarette in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah, he's not an Olympic medalist
That is not the same on the comeback trail and he looked good. Really? Yeah, he was out for basically two years bad injuries
Way to go still I took care of him. You ruined him
You keep saying you returned to serve
Did you actually play the point out because Because you're talking about winning a point.
I returned the serve, he hit it back,
I hit it into the net.
Point over.
Yes.
When are we ever going to do, he thinks he can make six
or seven penalty shots against an MLS goalkeeper.
I'll let him do it against Mike and not get six or seven.
Is he allowed to drone, is the goalie allowed to drone scout where the kicks are going like Canada has been?
I don't telegraph. I mean I could tell you that much. I look one way I kick the other way.
Don't tell us that!
Just don't tell the goalie.
That's a note that I have on my water bottle.
Looks one way, goes the other.
So if the goalie is listening, he'll think that I'm looking one way, goes the other. So if the goalie is listening,
he'll think that I'm looking one way
and shooting another way,
but I will look the way and then shoot that way.
Now I've got to start off.
Sure he's never dealt with that.
Can we, we have a basketball court here in the Elcer.
Is there anything, do you want to give us
any of your basketball bragging that you,
anything you can do that
We can actually test during the show because we've been wanting to do this goalkeeper challenge for about 10 years
We actually had it set it up a couple times to gods didn't show up
We had people willing to do it. Is there anything basketball related that we can test during the show today?
That you would be willing to say that you can do that I
don't think you can do? I mean I'm open to anything I will tell you that no one
has hit more threes in the history of Long Island basketball than me so if you
want to send me out there if there's a three-point stripe I will go out there
Dan if you give me 20 shots I'm guessing I had 10 you know 50%
this was a very college three by the way. Are you being defended? this was a very college three by the way this is defended
This was a very easy thing to look up and prove false
Which it has been several years with this lie. Yes. This lie is not in any way
You made six and a half threes I had six in one half. It's a record you had Steve Shackle on my coach
Jack I love him you had him on to verify it and
he did.
I mean, he said I had a sweet J. You guys were all there for it.
Mike was there, Chris was there, you were there.
Was a record.
At the time.
Chris, can we please find, I don't know if it was the first year of Long Island basketball,
the first year in the history of Long Island basketball, first game year in the history of Long Island basketball,
first game played in the history of Long Island basketball. Can we find out if they can get
us in the gym here so that we can just see Stugatz at some point during the show, post
game show, take 20 shots. I don't think he's going to make 10.
50% from three.
Yes, that's what he's saying.
College.
You delivered on the free throw challenge that we did at the heat facility across the
street not too long ago.
I took a hundred, right?
Yeah, and you made more than you missed?
I did, yeah.
I made like 60 something, yes.
That's right, Jessica.
That's a different thing.
You should be unimpressed by that.
It's wild.
It's wildly unimpressive.
But for him, and where the bar was.
And it was running.
He cleared it.
It was running he cleared it
It was running he says he did do some running beforehand I could do that hard thing cuz I did this easier thing. Yeah one time
All right, we will test this at some point during the show today
Do you guys have any thoughts because I have not talked about this Charles Barkley put out a statement and
talked a little bit with Dan Patrick about saying they're gonna give
everything they have next year but it would appear that's gonna be the next
the last year of that show in in certainly on that network but in its
entirety I wouldn't bet on that show being back and just being purchased by
someone else
So what do you guys think is going to end up happening there?
Barkley does seem a little less strident about retiring in the same interview
We kind of let it slip that they've already started talking to other networks
So like like we said previous show Mike and like we said previously
It's not the same show. show if Ernie's not there.
Charles has been talking about, again,
I don't know if I believe that Ernie wouldn't be there,
because you can just, all these people in that statement,
he was very careful to say, look at how much money they have,
because they can just buy the entire concept
if they're out there.
Charles has been talking about retirement for 15 years,
and he always takes money.
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