The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Annnnnnnnnnnnd We're Back

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

Izzy has one big regret from yesterday's show: too much wiener talk. We're also joined by the most powerful man in international media, Greg Cote, to discuss the Lionel Messi's recent press conference.... Then, why is Damian Lillard still in Portland? Plus, we need a "Go Get Him" column from Greg for Jonathan Taylor, Stephen A. on Family Feud, and celebrities and athletes with the same name. Also, aliens: why haven't we found those yet? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat Sputcast. Upon reflection, there might have been a little bit too much wiener talk yesterday. Yeah, yeah Confirmation I have to admit I was like to my wife. I was like things were said at work today Yeah, when Billy said to me You know, you're just gonna say anything that's on your mind I said, you know what? Maybe we should we should go through a filter here and so especially coming from me
Starting point is 00:00:39 Billy clearly couldn't control the conversation so he got sent to the back today Yeah on my left and I'm easy good tears of ESPN today. Yeah. On my left, then I'm Izzy Gutierrez of ESPN, not Dan Lebertard. On my left, we got Mike Ryan, who probably will be more under control or control this the conversation a little bit more from here. Well, not a second. Was it my job to control you yesterday? Not necessarily control, but participate enough to where I was in leading the conversation in a particular direction.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I would throw in week zero, I went to Kid Rock and Bud Light, which I never thought was gonna happen. I was just like, let's do anything. But... Really was really locked in yesterday. I was, I had notes, I was checking things off, crossing things off, depending,
Starting point is 00:01:15 and if I decided we adequately covered a topic, I'd draw a line all the way through it, or I do like a little check mark or a half line. And then when I would check in with you, you'd be like, what? Well, you know, that is the Stugots chair. No, you know your teammate. Yeah, well, he's just playing the role at that point. But first time teammate.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We can forget about the topic after this, but there was an obvious follow-up that nobody asked you. It's just you got a circumcision at 18. Number one, did it hurt? What's the recovery time look like? Only the mornings hurt. And the recovery time was about a week. About a, maybe a week and a half. Can I ask a question and we're back.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yeah, I feel like this isn't where we should go. How long till you got back on the horse? Go ahead, Bill. Do you go to, like, is it like, that's a cosmetic thing at that point, right? So you get like a plastic surgeon, like, where would you even, like, if you're interested in having said, procedure done,
Starting point is 00:02:12 do you go to like your primary care physician? Like, I didn't have a primary, it was a key. And I went somewhere, and I told them, I said, like, I need this and he was like, you know what, you're right. Does it get a cute little neck brace? Great codeys here. Doesn't work on a dogone like a dog all right enough
Starting point is 00:02:26 You guys need me for this hour. I said step up Chris get us out of here And that was his father here visual with a code is long if this keeps up. Okay. Well, like I said we can close a book there But I mean there was still some meat on that bone. We've got whoa. Well, no there isn't No, it's just it was just the hoodie. It's more of a fake. Yeah. Greg, don't worry, we're not going there with you today. No, we'll see you in. Wait, are you circumcised?
Starting point is 00:02:52 I am. I'm not enough. All right. We've gone too far to warn you now. Yeah, but I didn't wait until 18. You go around the room. Enough. I think I was 18 minutes old when they did mine.
Starting point is 00:03:01 But you went to a place, not a doctor? It was a doctor's office. What do you mean? I don't know. Maybe you went to a place not a doctor. It was a doctor's office. I don't know. I mean, maybe it was a tattoo parlor or something. Right. I know it's not a tattoo. I got Greg this entire entire side of the glass is cut. We need to move on. And here I thought right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Just gave me a nod. Greg. We'll see NA. Not playing this game. Greg. I saw that there was a question mark in the sky the aliens put there Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Thank you for getting us all the Commutation here. I those get there and John Wiener's not even here to contribute. That's the irony
Starting point is 00:03:35 Jeremy I don't want to make assumptions, but it'd be an upset I'm marking you down as a yes Greg Greg you are the most powerful man in international media, you know. Am I? Yeah, apparently. How's that? Because we have here in Miami the most famous athlete in the world.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah, we do. I almost said maybe, but he's the most famous athlete in the world based on Tyler Hero. Instagram followers, I think. And Leon El Messi outside of that one storm-filled event where he was introduced hasn't really talked to the media or hadn't really talked to the media at all. And then Greg, Greg Cody, put his foot down via print. What'd you do?
Starting point is 00:04:17 I wrote a column after not the last game, but the previous one where they got to the final. And I said, this is getting to be a little bit ridiculous that he in the NLJU's was imagine LeBron James comes to the heat. And he's been here a whole month and he still hasn't said anything. He hasn't done a press conference. He hasn't spoken to the media. He, and six days later they had the messy press conference. So I took a victory lap. You know, on my podcast, the great Cody show, I took a victory lap, even though I'm sure it was totally coincidental, but it made me look good. When you went to the press conference,
Starting point is 00:04:54 was everyone congratulating you and saying, good column, it's because of you that were here right now. I'm sure they were, but I wasn't there to hear it. Wait, no, I didn't go to the press conference. Wait a minute, hold on a second. What, I mean, you demanded a press conference and then didn't attend. I didn't demand, I said, it would benefit the fans
Starting point is 00:05:13 and the team. What were you doing? Okay, I was off that day, I wasn't writing that day. And the stories are though. This is the most famous athlete to ever play in South Florida. Yeah, I checked with Michelle Kaupman who covers the team great for the girl. She's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:05:31 You basically said you got it? No, I said, are you going? I assume you're going and when she said yes, I didn't see a need to go on my day off. He was playing the note the other day that, oh, there wasn't room for me, but the Harold only had one spot. That'll go to that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm like, Dad, you could have gone. If I had forced my way and I'm sure I could have, but I chose not to. Forced my way. You're never gonna get the opportunity to speak to the man again. Oh, I think we will. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:05:55 He's gonna be here two more years after this. But how do I know that you'll go to the press conference? Are you gonna demand he say something and then not print it? No. It was actually a pretty cool press conference. There's rumors that he actually mentioned my dad in it. We have here, with translation, we have here a clip of his press conference. First, I'd like to thank Greg Cody, who's Miami-Herald column convinced
Starting point is 00:06:19 and or Miami to finally let me speak to the public. I constantly find myself inspired by his words and stories, especially those about 1440. Mr. Cody, will you please stand up? That kind of thing. So, Greg's logos and wish them well this fantasy season. Many of you have asked about my pre-match rituals. I have a few, but none is effective as listening to the Greg Cody show with Greg Cody during warm-ups.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I love that show so much that I even listen to it when warming up for other things. Baby, nothing sets the mood quite like three facts Jack, and you know it. The move to enter Miami has introduced me to an elevated level of fashion. I found that I love Western style pearl button shirts and anything from the selection at shop.thegregcotishow.com. I'm proud of the success we've had so far and there are many great things to come. Right now we have our party hats on. Will I sign a contract extension and stay here beyond the next two seasons.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Y'ne never know, now put a low-boss mint under all your pillows and dream big. Good night everyone. Thank you very much. It's a big fan of you. Wow, great. You are so influenced. I am so honored that Messi would mention me at some length. At length?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah, in the press conference. I should have gone. The Argentinian accent is usually pretty tricky for me to pick up on, but I don't think he actually said Greg Cody, you know. Wait, what? Hey, I heard it. I heard it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I heard it. I heard it. I heard it. We hired a professional translator, so as soon as it looks. Greg, at this point, you need to hold out for the one on one, right? Yeah, I think so. Like, you got everyone else the time. I feel like now it's time for, you need to hold out for the one on one, right? Yeah, I think so. Like, you got everyone else the time. I feel like now it's time for, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Exclusive. Yeah, especially now that I know that he's a fan of my podcast. You've got to see your pod before sex. I have it. Is he, I want to make a quick correction. You said you, you threw out there that Messi was a most followed athlete on, on social media. Ronaldo actually has 601 million followers.
Starting point is 00:08:25 To Messi's 483 last time. That's interesting. Really? Yeah, it's quite a golf. Yeah, I agree with this. I agree with this, though. I think if you're off the top of your head, you're saying who is the biggest athlete in the world right now,
Starting point is 00:08:39 I think it's Messi. Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of superficial reasons as to why Ronaldo would be more followed than Lino Messi. Also, he's just a little bit more active there. Although Messi's kind of finding his voice, and that's what I thought was so cool about the presser that you demanded Greg is,
Starting point is 00:08:56 he actually provided pretty thoughtful and insightful answers. This was a person that didn't really like talking on the media, he kind of enjoyed it. You saw how long at length he spoke about the Greg Gaudi show. Yeah, yeah. And he did a couple of one on one separately, too. Yeah, he gave really good revelatory answers about how much he didn't enjoy. His time in Paris and he gave up the good saying, now I'll play on artificial turf, right? Which I mean, is a leveraging tactic that you could have
Starting point is 00:09:25 made to improve the league, but he's like, no, I'll play. And that's the thing about Lionel Messi, and Data Martino also gave voice to this name. Data, Messi likes playing all the time. Yeah. And if you watch his playing, Sali does conserve his energy. He comes off a little bit lazy sometimes. He just walks across the pitch, and then with the stamp of the finger he turns it on Amazing, which is why you need a bunch of work courses around messy to make it work and Argentina found their success in
Starting point is 00:09:50 Building a team that would do all the work and let messy just be special as we saw in the cup final He can be special in these moments in these flashing moments so he can serve as energy He wants to play all the time It's amazing because he's played all seven matches since he's been here. It started the last six and now they play Wednesday and in the US Open Cup semi-final and then Saturday in the resumption of MLS and he's going to play both games. He said he's going to play Wednesday. You have to assume he's going to play Saturday. It does not like getting subbed out. He likes playing all the time. At age 36, I think he's a marvel, but like you say, he walks during a game more than any other player of everything.
Starting point is 00:10:28 But he's so instinctual, doesn't get caught off side really all that much. He's that this is how he will age with grace. And if he conserves his energy like that, he doesn't play a physical game. And I was worried about the league scub because the Mexican teams don't have this shared investment in Messi. Yeah. I was worried about the league's cup because the Mexican teams don't have this shared investment in Messi Yeah, I imagine that once the the league season resumes here in on Saturday when he's playing against New York Red Bulls The officials are gonna I mean, I if you want to read into a conspiracy theory The way that he's going to be officiated is pretty is going to be pretty tough
Starting point is 00:11:01 If you're trying to stop the man because everyone needs to protect this investment. Yeah, so the teams don't give a shit. They'll just kick the hell out of them walking around at 36 I'm not that impressed with if you want to play Flack football with me at 46 then I'll be impressed But wow, we can't let we can't let Greg Cody skate here. Are they ever gonna wear the black jerseys? Yeah, yeah, they'll definitely wear those. It's I mean part superstition But also part like in soccer, home jerseys, it's really a primary jersey, and unless you're playing a team that has a similar color scheme and not many teams do, you tend to stick to your primary jersey. Greg, you tried to convince, by the way, you're in your 69th year of life, congratulations,
Starting point is 00:11:39 we've been not talking about that enough. I'm still not there. No, no, you are in your 69th year of life. You will celebrate your 69th birthday coming up. Okay, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Because we're all one on our first birthday. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And you're literal birthday is the birthday that nobody counts. But you tried to tell your son that the reason you weren't at the press conference for messy was that because he doesn't understand journalism. I'm pretty sure he understands what a day off means, and that you just didn't want to work. You tried to tell him on your podcast
Starting point is 00:12:11 that he didn't understand journalism, so could you explain journalism to me? Well, journalism at my age and in my situation is that I don't make work for myself if it's not asked to me. I just don't have to ask. But you made the work, I asked you for the press conference. Um, this is the new and unimproved Don Lebertar show with the Stugas,
Starting point is 00:12:32 gamble on by Grafkins. Don Lebertar. Who I'm thinking of is Lauren Green. We all remember Lauren Green. Who could forget? Bananza. Lauren Dorn. Am I right? There's a cookie named Lauren Adoon or something forget? Bananza. Lauren Dorn. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:12:46 There's a cookie named Lorna Dune or something like that. It's my favorite cookie. It's number one of my top five cookie lists, yes. You and nobody else. But Lauren Green played the head cowboy in Bananza. Thank you. You're so old. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, the stumbling on his word, the precise manner of it was as old as you've ever sounded It's two gods also. Why did you say thank you at the end of that? Oh because I'm I'm enlightening people people out there Notting like Bob has going. Yeah, yeah, Lauren green, Benanza. I remember you're welcome Well, I mean, Benanza and gun smoke were like big rivals on TV was must see TV and Gunsmoke were like big rivals on TV. It was must-see TV. We'd watch them at 1440 on a black and white magnavox every week.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Oh, that was a long time. Yeah, my turn, that's mine. My grandma used to watch those shows every day, right? Damn right. She would have been 90 this year. Hello. Good for her. She had good taste in TV.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Long green. This is the Don Limita show with this two gods. The representative of Draft King Sportsbook, one of America's top-rated sports book apps. Draft King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action including seeing game parlay's props, live betting, and so much more. You just go down when you sign up on a Draft King sportsbook app to check it out. We haven't talked about Lillard in a while,
Starting point is 00:14:07 and with good reason, there hasn't really been much on the Damien Lillard front. If you're a heat homer and defensive, you're happy that the NBA said they're going to look into this James Harden thing because he did some of the similar things, but Lillard on a posting spree when he released new music did something that made Miami Heat
Starting point is 00:14:26 fans per cup. He reposted an IG story of someone just merely mentioning the word Miami. And that's good enough for me to reignite my excitement for Damien Lillard. Also, other little tea leaves are that the NBA schedule came out and there's only one Portland Trailblazer nationally televised game. It's against Miami and it's after the trade deadline. Very shortly after the trade. Very shortly. And look, Dan's done a bunch of reporting on this. I can confirm that the internal feeling inside the Miami Heat is that they're not
Starting point is 00:15:01 going to negotiate against themselves. It's cyclical. Yeah, you can have your strong opinions that the offer is not up to snuff, but the reality of the situation is, it's the best offer out there. And if you want Miami's offer to get better, someone's going to need to top that offer, and no one has. So to lash out the Miami Heat's offer for being bad,
Starting point is 00:15:21 they're not just gonna make it better to appease you. And Damien, unfortunately, is this type of superstar, or fortunately for his whole reputation? It's a good guy's finished last situation. Yeah, he's not gonna do the things to make that situation untenable, is he? And that's typically what superstars, or even people like Goran Droggich have to do to get their way. Didn't mean to tell that story. He convinced Goran of making a stink out in Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But the thing about Damian is right next to James Hardin, he looks just as bad. Even though he's been doing it about as normal about the right way, if there is a right way to do this. Well, you know what I mean? The super stars have. You know why that is, though. Because major entities are doing the bidding. I'm not going to put you in an uncomfortable position, but you have places like the ringer that are now arguing that Damien Lillard should team up with Rudy Gober and Anthony Edwards. That's my favorite. So far, there's been a lot of really unbelievable trade propositions thrown out there as here's how we can get Damien Lillard away from Miami and wanting to be in Miami. But saying he should willingly team up with Rudy Go Bear in Minnesota has to be at the top.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Don't you quit? Don't you as a Miami Heat fan say, Hey, we are at that Boston Celtics level of hate or I don't know if the Lakers have that level of hate when they were really good, but yeah, Everybody, you know hates us because ainess and And it's just one of those situations where they're just openly saying it now. And even other GMs are saying, you know what, not that team. No one wants to see this happen. I think that part is funny because I think it's also, there's these different reputations with the Lakers, with the Knicks, with the Celtics, where everybody believes like, oh, when
Starting point is 00:16:57 that team is good, basketball is at its best. The same way, realistically, we sometimes talk about certain college football programs that way. And here in Miami, we know that at the top of college football, we talk about how great it is when Miami is great and how that's good for the game. When you look at it in basketball, I don't know that those franchises need to be great for basketball to be great. We've seen now, when the warriors are great, that's great for basketball.
Starting point is 00:17:21 When the heat are great, that's great for basketball. Well, there's a reason why people only talk about that when like the nicks are in the playoffs and they're good because they're not good all the time. And so when they are good, it's not, it's good for basketball. It's just refreshing. And so anything that's refreshing is good for the sport. You just tie it in because, oh, it's New York and you make it feel like it's a bigger deal.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I do hate that tired line though. Every time I hear it, oh, the NBA is better when the Celtics and Lakers are relevant. The NBA is better when the nicks are relevant. In my lifetime, the nicks haven't been relevant all that much. The NBA seems to be doing just fine. And that old adage doesn't apply to the Miami Heat in basketball, even though business boomed during a great run for the Miami Heat. And the Miami Heat outside of maybe the Spurs, and there's a handful of team Spurs,
Starting point is 00:18:03 Lakers, Warriors, Heat. They're among the greatest franchise, franchise is in that sport of this century. Sensor Inception, if you project their success over the long term, they're more gloryed franchise than the likes of Philadelphia and the likes of Boston. People tried to tell you while it was happening, that it was bad for basketball. The Miami Heat's Big Three, but it was just again because it wasn't their teams. Because I just did that podcast for years of Heat, Chris loves the name. And when you talk about those teams, I talked about those players.
Starting point is 00:18:35 They look back at those times and they loved it. There was just the purity of competition. They loved what LeBron and Dwayne and Chris represented as players. They weren't some, you know, just all about Hollywood like Jo Kim Noah tried to imply Trio that were just doing it for the fame. They were pure competitors and it brought that level to the league like look What they made the spurs do play perfect basketball in an NBA finals to win a championship. That's not bad for the league They did it very well and in the national animus against the big three heat and how the big three reveled in it was just delicious to watch. It was a four year joy ride to be down here and witness not only the
Starting point is 00:19:18 greatness of that team, but how everybody else hated us and it was terrific. But on Lillard, I have a question for you guys, for everybody, because am I the only one surprise that there isn't a bigger, more competitive market for Lillard's services? It can't just be that he's threatening, I have to go to Miami. If I don't go to Miami, I'm an unhappy guy. It's got to be more than that.
Starting point is 00:19:42 That seems to be what it is, though. And you know that meme from the office where everyone's got the finger guns and it's three people facing off, I understand why people are projecting. Hell, as a heat fan, I'm projecting on the media carrying water, but everyone is upset. Be it the Miami Heat with not a good enough offer
Starting point is 00:20:00 and as I mentioned, it's cyclical because there's no better offer out there to force the Miami offer to improve. Me as a heat fan, I'm mad at Portland because there are no better offers out there. What are we going to do? You're the ones prolonging this. And you have this amorphous entity, which is all the other teams that are refusing to get a better offer out there because as we know, Lillard wants to be in one spot. And when you want to be in one spot and you're that great of a player, but you're at the point in your career where you are when you're Damien Lillard and you're past 30 and you
Starting point is 00:20:29 have the contract and the numbers of what that contract is going to look like, you have to be the right team, the right organization and the right place right now to be able to compete with the core that you would have built around Damien Lillard immediately. And so that immediately siphons off at least half of the league from wanting to compete in this sort of offer. Then there are other teams that get eliminated based off the fact that they just like their cores enough and their cores are younger,
Starting point is 00:20:54 and they might not want to move pieces for Damien. And so then you're looking at basically six or seven teams who would want to be in on it, looking at their superstars, at their situations, at the fact that Damien wants to be in Miami and saying, no, we don't want to make an offer that's that much more competitive than whatever the offer is that's being made by Miami, which is why we've ended up in this weird stalemate where 50 some odd days later after a trade request, we're still sitting here.
Starting point is 00:21:17 But in Simmons defense, from Portland's perspective, is, is Carl Anthony Towns not a better offer than Tyler? Tyler, I was just thinking about this. So like, you've got me thinking all this time about that idea and just the the co-I Leonard of it all. Like, hey, let's not tell him, send him where he wants to go. Let's make that figure, figure that out
Starting point is 00:21:34 after his contract is up. And when you've got the Anthony Edwards doing what he's doing with Team USA and Steve Kerr saying, he's unquestionably the guy. And you've got, you've got a potential big time talent that you can get back. I would see Alex Rodriguez as the exact type of team owner or part owner
Starting point is 00:21:52 that would push for that. It's like we put all our chips in with Rudy Gobert. Why would we stop now? Let's go for a championship. And if he wants to leave after a year, fight, let him leave after a year. It starts with an MI. It is a different situation than
Starting point is 00:22:05 that in that quay had an expiring deal. Whereas he probably wouldn't have that strong opinions on, yeah, okay, I'll go there for a year. It's fine. If Lillard had an expiring deal, that would change the entire narrative. Here what I'm interested in is Portland's perspective. Well, Carl Anthony Towns fits better. It's a better piece for the rebuilding project. You and I were talking about this. If Portland is rebuilding, why are they trying to make a roster that just fits a mass talent?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Look what they he did. Tyler Hiro is probably in his career, gonna make the All Star game a couple of times. Rebuild like Cleveland did. I don't care where the positions are. We'll find the continuity somewhere else. Let's just build. And you can do that really quickly
Starting point is 00:22:44 if you're a good organization. I mean, look at what Miami did in 03. They had Dwayne, Karam Butler, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, and they had a great season. Ray Feralsen flipped all that into Shaq and then a year after that win a championship. And so if you're Portland, the last thing you're trying to do is compete next year. In fact, you're probably way better off tanking next year and then just officially starting the rebuild the following year. But yes, this is one of those situations where if the heat don't find, if there's not
Starting point is 00:23:10 another person creating an offer for them, they're just going to be stuck here for a while. The part that's funny also when you talk about the Minnesota trade, right, is they gave up all those first-round picks to get rid of you to go bare. So it's literally, hey, we can offer you Carl Anthony Towns as a direct swap for Damien Lillard, which I don't know that I don't I don't see a reason why that would make sense for Portland outside of trying to get Damien Lillard out of town Which if you're gonna send him to a place he doesn't want to go then why would you do it? It all just seems sort of convoluted to look back at at an offer that Miami's making
Starting point is 00:23:39 I we what you were just talking about we talked about three weeks ago on this show four weeks ago on the show Which was it's not about the offer to make Portland the most competitive team right now. It's what can amass them? The most amount of talent, the most amount of picks to be able to build their future around Scoot Henderson. I mentioned the other day how I get Carmelo Anthony vibes
Starting point is 00:23:57 from Damien Lillard, not so much type of player or whatever, but just if you remember, obviously the big three, set their contracts up to end at the same time, come out, nah, just let it do a little different. You wanted to get all the money possible. And Damien Lillard doing it a little bit different, trying to be a little bit more loyal, and he's kind of getting burned here,
Starting point is 00:24:15 and he's not gonna do the James Harden thing because he doesn't wanna look like James Harden, looks right now, and so it's just like, yeah, he just should have been the bad guy earlier. Yeah, but in being the good guy is bottom nothing, because he wants to go to one destination. He's been really loyal to that franchise. He's probably stuck it out several seasons
Starting point is 00:24:31 too long over there. And nice guys finish last. He's not having that kindness reciprocated or I'm sure that's how he's looking at it and to your point earlier about a maverick getting involved like Alex Rodriguez as a heat fan that just wants toien Lillard on the roster, I welcome that.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Someone else, please get involved. To force Miami's hand to make this offer better, because everyone's just lamenting that Miami's not just saying, okay, here's an extra couple first round picks just to end this all already. But that's dumb if you're trying to build. But Greg, if the season starts and Miami is in this holding pattern, how is my, how
Starting point is 00:25:08 are Miami Heat fans supposed to handle that? You know what, they'll be disappointed, but they'll wait as long as he hasn't signed one another team, I think they're in a holding pattern and I think they're okay with waiting. But watching Tyler Hero play, that would be awkward. That would be awkward. Yeah, but the price could go up Tyler Heroes the type of score that can go out and get 35 and in game one and the season and you can all just be like price went up yesterday's price is not today's price do we believe though that if
Starting point is 00:25:36 Damien Lillard is traded to another team beside Miami and that it's a good situation he's going to a contender don Don't we think he's going to play 100% do we really think that he's going to let his play be affected by the fact that he's not to the team he wanted to go but he's in a good situation. I don't believe that. I don't think you're going to see any change in his level of play. I think he's a professional. He's competitive and I think he's going to play like it no matter where he goes i don't buy the whole idea that you know if he doesn't go to my amy
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Starting point is 00:26:30 See, doesn't I sound better? Hey everybody. No, it does not. It does not sound better. It sounds. He is absolutely slurring. Is hey, everybody. By the way, not surprising at all that he would answer the phone and think just everybody is that it's only one person calling it's everybody Still gots he's performing baby
Starting point is 00:26:49 My god around in the hey everybody He was 19 Miller lights deep Doing a little show a little show. A little show. Everything is good content. It's like he's chewing red coating. Hi everybody. VCC Don Lebatar Show with Estugas. Presented by Draft King Sportsbook, one of America's top rated sports book apps. Draft King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action, including same game parlays, props, live betting, and so much more.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Use code Dan when you sign up on the Draft King Sports Book app to check it out. Legendary Miami Herald columnist Greg Cody is in with us as he is every Tuesday. And I make that status, Greg, when I left the Miami Herald in 2012. Did you guys say, oh man, we just lost a legend? Yes. Lies. Yeah, I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Nobody else did pop it. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did.
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Starting point is 00:28:06 Sure, but I had to ask him. But I am asking you. Yeah, good callback. I am asking you to run it back. Yeah. And do what you do best. Jonathan Taylor, go get him. Look, I said a couple of weeks ago
Starting point is 00:28:19 when Dalvin Cook was still available, that they don't need Dalvin Cook, that Raheem Mostert, to me, is a very underrated back. The rare, the rare don't go get him calling. But, but, there's a but here. Greg's but. Jonathan Taylor is better than Dalvin Cook. He's younger, appreciably younger,
Starting point is 00:28:37 especially at that position where being four years younger is important, crucial. And so, yeah, I can see depending on what the askin' price price is I can see them going for Jonathan Taylor I don't think I'd give up a first run pick for I don't well that's what I think they think they're gonna get a first round pick well that the reports are there in their leveraging the media as everyone does and I think we're kind of getting exposed to what the game is between insiders and these teams but I I want to really harp on it.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I know he's a good fit for Miami, not necessarily a good fit at 16 million. Maybe this is a type of scenario where his team seeks out a trade in which they think they can get an extension, but it's not totally contingent on that. But Jim Merseys, I mean, he's funny regardless, but no, we don't wanna pay you market value, Jonathan Taylor. But when you're out on
Starting point is 00:29:26 the trade market, we want to first round pick. We will, we will, we value you that much, but we're not going to value you enough to give you the offer that demand that would go in line with a first round draft pick. Jim, I always say playing both shides here, Greg. Right. Well, look, whenever I write, go get them. And I do like star power on a team. I do. I love that. You're a sucker for star power. I'm a sucker for star power. You're a sucker for cup in your hand up against your ear.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Right. And speaking directly to the Miami Dolphin fan base with go get them. Jonathan Taylor. Or demanding press conferences. It works sometimes, by the way, because you did that with messy. And it's going great. Thank you very much. And you also wrote the messy, because you did that with Messi, and it's going great, Adam, so yeah. And you also wrote the Messi go-get-em column, too.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, thank you, Greg. Of course. Greg, your finger pins are all over this whole Messi situation, aren't they? Yeah, they really are, you know, I hate to brag. Look, it's all a matter of what it takes to get Jonathan Taylor. If they can get him for a second round pick, hell yes.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Immediately. Brick me if I'm wrong, Dolphin's gonna have a third or a fourth, right? Yeah, but dad, you're the fantasy guy that, like let's send them three backups for Jonathan Taylor. Like you have to make a trade that they're, like, it's gonna take a first round pick. Yeah, I know, Jonathan Taylor.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Then I wouldn't do it. I would not give up a first round pick for Jonathan Taylor. Can I ask you a question, Cody? What did you wave Billy off so aggressively for? You were so disoriented. That was me, he was waving on. He wasn't Chris, I was calling him out because he was doing a whole thing about you go off to Jonathan Taylor you don't go after Dalvin Cook while on
Starting point is 00:30:50 on the bright line this morning my dad was like Dalvin Cook, Jonathan Taylor, same player. Comparable skill. Yeah, perfectly good trail. But as I said as I said to Mike at that position and maybe that position alone, the difference between 27 and 23 is very large at running. I think Kansas City is an interesting option for Jonathan Taylor. They got to figure out what they're going to do
Starting point is 00:31:14 with Chris Jones, and they're not in the greatest cap situation, but this could be a one-year loner type of deal. I imagine Jim Orsay would be like, Nick Young with the question marks all around his face, like, wait, so you'll take a low tier offer, you'll play for the same total for them, but not for me, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:33 that from what you're hearing from Jonathan Taylor's camp is this is a principle thing too. He's insulted that the team he's produced for so long is not giving him fair market value. Cody, you have a bunch of question marks around your face. Do you know who Nick Young is? Do you remember what the reference was that he was talking about, right?
Starting point is 00:31:48 No, I don't think so. No. It's Swaggy P. Why would I say Swaggy P is the full of help? Whatever happened to Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Great question. JTT. Was he a popular kid?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Because I remember him on all the teen... Tiger covered. Tiger young stuff. He's got to be like, you're age, right? Young's. I think he's got to be over 40. He's 41. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Is he still a good? That's Beyonce's age. I think you went to school or something, big mistake. Kids, don't go to school. At school? If you're a Hollywood actor, don't go to school. You don't need it for anything. You're going to be a star forever.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Oh. He's not a star forever. Well, because he went to school, which is the mistake. Yeah. If you're a young and upcoming star, don't bother with school. You don't need it. I'm seeing a picture here from 21.
Starting point is 00:32:32 He's like a director or something, right? I'm like, he's not looking at something. He's like the old JTT. Was he from home improvement? Yes. Who among us, Chris? I'm not throwing stones. It's just, I would have thought, if you would have said to me,
Starting point is 00:32:44 I would have thought he would have still looked like him when you've like wait like years ago JTT look like a portrait almost I thought JTT was gonna look like JTT like beat like a heartthrob forever. Is he a short king? Yeah, for sure. He's got like a jewel in Is Jonathan Taylor the type of running back for Mike McDaniel? I know he's like a little bit bigger, burlier, is he? I don't know how fast he is. It's got to be pretty fast, right?
Starting point is 00:33:11 I mean, Mike Daniel's own running scheme, which is from the shader's hand. Not matter. I mean, most of it's got great speed on the outside. The zone running scheme is designed to get you on the outside, but you can also be very successful, running straight on the outside. The zone running scheme is designed to get you on the outside, but you can also be very successful running straight up the middle. It's such a great zone blocking scheme that you can get production out of pedestrian
Starting point is 00:33:33 backs. Like Orlando's Gary had a thousand yard season, right? One year running behind this. Alfred Morris out of FAU had a really successful productive season, his rookie year in this scheme. You get a talented back like Jonathan Taylor and you couple that with a tried and true brilliant hack. It is an NFL offensive hack.
Starting point is 00:33:53 If you run the zone blocking scheme that is from the Shayna hand tree, you will get running production. And that's another reason why the dolphins are just about the last team that would overpay for Jonathan Taylor. Especially when they need to pay a bunch of dolphins coming up. Christian Wilkins, Javan Holland, Jalen Waddle, Jalen Phillips, the dolphins have a bunch of money they need to spend. So I'm glad they're not spending on running that.
Starting point is 00:34:16 But the LA Rams have proven, like if this is the window, you go for it, you win your Super Bowl, and you pay the consequences afterwards. They had a similar situation where everybody's up, and then you're gonna have to make difficult decisions. But as much as I praised the zone blocking scheme with the Shanahan tree, Mike McDaniel from that, they're running a really struggle to come online.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It was confusing at the early part of the season. We saw it gradually as the season went on as it made the acquisition of Jeff Wilson that it got better and better. But what is the ceiling? What is the norm for this? Is it the high end of what we saw last year and that's it?
Starting point is 00:34:51 That's the peak. If so, then yeah, throw caution to the win. Go out and get someone like Jonathan Taylor. I'm not so sure about paying him $16 million over the course of his career, but you'll cross that bridge when you need to get to. I'm curious about the other side. I'm curious about Jonathan Taylor or where any sort of high end running back wants to play these days.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Do you want to play in a place where you're in every down back and they're wearing you out and you're getting the big numbers, but you're probably two years away from not getting into the contract, or do you want to go to a team maybe like the dolphins, which pass heavy, run on occasion, save yourself for rotation, but will you get the big contract as a result of that? Seems like it's lose, lose for them. Well, McCaffer got the big contract by being a workhorse. There can be big contract. You have to be in the workhorse. You have to be in the passing game part of the workhorse, right? You can't just be a handed off guy. No one calls a pass catcher a workhorse, though. We come up with a different names for
Starting point is 00:35:39 them. I just call McCaffer. I think you want the big contract now, not knowing if you're going to be in the league three years from now. So it's like, so you want the big contract now, not knowing if you're going to be in the league three years from now. So it's like, so you need the big numbers. Don't worry about my knees later. Exactly right. Give me one big deal and I'll be good. McCaffrey is a workhorse.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Went healthy. That's a problem. But Nick Chubb doesn't really get involved all that much in the passing game and he got his money. In terms of health and his career, there's more of a rotation in a Mike McDaniel offense than there was in Indianapolis where he was the workhorse But you just mentioned are you more inclined to get that big offer if you're playing in that kind of scheme He just was and he wasn't getting that big kind of offer from Jim or said Tyree kill and Jalen Waddle are both gonna have at least A hundred passes thrown their way at least Maybe a hundred and twenty and this is not an offense that needs that work
Starting point is 00:36:26 course back. This offense is just fine with the committee led by Raheem Mostert. You don't want to salt the game away. I think what you're saying goes against the identity of Mike McDaniel's coaching scheme as entire time as a professional. It's just, okay, we'll be explosive early on, and then we'll salt the game away. Like the Atlanta Falcons of Calche and a Hand did several years ago. Control the game on the ground as you've already imposed your will. All right, I got a new game I want to play. It's called Forma Poker Hand. That is one card, a great athlete, and your other card is a celebrity, but they have the same name. I'm going
Starting point is 00:37:03 with Jonathan Taylor and Jonathan Taylor Thomas. They don't have the same name. I'm going with Jonathan Taylor and Jonathan Taylor Thomas. They don't have the same name as the Dipper. Just close enough, this is like a similar game. So it's close enough. That's my jaker hand. That's my jaker hand. I don't think any of you can come up with a poker hand better than mine.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Michael Jordan. Shit. Oh. The game is ended. The game is a little bit more fun. JTT is five. Short game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And he also went to Harvard. An efficient appearance from Lucy Roday. If you're going to go to a school, I guess, and break the bill and deal with a rule of celebrity, that's a pretty good one. I mean, he went to the winning argument, by the way. Michael Jordan, boo, I'm out. He went to Harvard to study philosophy and history.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I mean, listen, kids, if you're going to college, those are two wasted majors, 100%. Like, that is listen kids, if you're going to college, those are two wasted majors. 100%. Like that is student debt if I have ever heard in my entire life philosophy. Another one, Russian art history, no way. That's such a specific thing that you'd be studying that you need to, like the jobs aren't a plenty on some of these majors. Are you saying JTT studied Russian art history? No, that just an option? No, my cousin major. So that's just shade at your cousin.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, no, I told him, I got dude, you're wasting your time getting a major in that. That's not an essay. You never know who's building a crew and needs that skill set. This is like, he's such a fit for Danny Ocean. It's not even fully. Oh, you're saying like to be a criminal?
Starting point is 00:38:19 There's a heist, if there's an art heist in Russia, guess who's speed that, line one. I don't think it has to be in russia just has to be russian art right right anywhere anywhere can you imagine being on jeopardy and that's one of the categories russian art speaking of jeopardy i heard that steven a smith up was on family feud with his family and they got absolutely destroyed which i think i think it's speaking of jeopardy technically who was the competition i don't know
Starting point is 00:38:45 Roy told me i figured this was a lot of for roida uh... yeah he played against tamron halls team and was even relatives like steven a smith brought his relatives to the show and tamron hall did not know well that's not how family food work you can't just pick
Starting point is 00:39:00 random people what you guys uh... what do you guys make of the the espm move to bring shannon sharp on two days? I like what Sivanese is doing. He's like, I'll argue with Mad Dog Rousseau one day a week. I'll argue with JJ Reddick. I'll argue with Michael Irvin. But for two days, it's Shannon Sharp.
Starting point is 00:39:15 It's the fantasy booking. I am learning of this at the very first moment. Oh, you didn't. No, I didn't. No, it's a official. You know what, you get the company. Shannon Sharp. I did not get the alert.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Two days ago, I like that idea. I like Stephen A Smith arguing with Skip Bayless's other partner and just sort of cutting him out of the deal. Richard Sherman's also doing undispeed it. Did you know that? I did not know that. Is he Friday? So is Lil Wayne once a week.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah. How do we think that's gonna go? Greg? Lil Wayne? This is Lil Wayne. I don't improve down lebertar show with the stugas. Gamble on by draft Kings Don't let it hard if you lob a 30 mile an hour fastball to a major leager of course
Starting point is 00:39:53 They're gonna hit a home run the worst major leager in baseball is gonna hit 10 or 12 home runs under that format Being pitched that way to be throwing curve balls. No, what's your solution here? It's it's a's a fake event. It's like not even real. Stugats. Dad, you had a shoot-n-er-all. Those were my deck shoes of long-standing. Real event number.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Real shoes, right? Exactly. No, no, no. I am with you, Greg. What's wrong with that? Be coming on that one. VCC Don't Liberty Show with this two cats. I'm with you Greg, what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:40:31 He got me on that one. VCC Don't Liberty Show with this two cats. Presented by Draft King Sportsbook, one of America's top-rated sportsbook apps, Draft King's is all kind of ways to get in on the action, including same-game Parley's props, live bedding, and so much more. Use code Dan when you sign up for the Draft King Sportsbook app to check it out. So Stephen A's defense of his family losing and family feud, 560 to nothing,
Starting point is 00:40:49 is that Tamron Hall cheated. The quote is, we're supposed to be family feud, but she had executive producers and researchers I could have brought the crew. That's what Stephen A says, but then it gets even better. He said despite attempting to carry his team with two number one answers, which doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Smith said that he was a little rattled by the response to his niece being on the show, quote, it was my niece on the end, who all the men were drooling at, Smith complained. It was pissing me off and distracting me. I don't like people looking at my niece like that. The point I'm making is this, it was not the greatest representation of the Smith family I don't like people looking at my niece like that the point I'm making is this It was not the greatest representation of the Smith family. There were some other relatives. I might have needed to have him just like
Starting point is 00:41:30 Him taking the victory lap on hold on a second. It was his niece's fault It was the fault of the other team for training. It was everyone in his family But him because you brought the wrong family members, which still wasn't his fault Even though he had two number one and he had two number one answers. He brought the crew. Wouldn't the crew just argue with him because that's what he does. He would have never. They should have brought the crew.
Starting point is 00:41:51 They never would be in agreement on anything. They would be all terrible at it. Terrible at it. That's the kind of behavior that he would openly lament on first take. That is just not a good teammate right there. That is passing the buck if I've ever seen it. It's a bad look for Steven A Smith. He doesn't do humility very often, does he?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Does Steven A, yeah, I mean, he has a humble voice. He does. It's in his locker. Yeah. You can do humility. Wasn't this the time for it when you lose five, six, ten, no. No, no, no. This is the time for cartoon characters to be made.
Starting point is 00:42:24 It feels like we're setting up for a mean to do a limited fake, but he's not here. So I don't know what we're gonna do about it. Actor Will Smith, Dodgers Catcher Will Smith. Well done. That's a good pass. That's a good pass. Russia, New Orleans, St. Will Smith too.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Ooh, more Bucky. Not better than Michael Jordan. Does that know? No, I'm gonna play in the game. No, I mean, as the game, I'm just gonna add more names and try to pretend we're catching number one. we're having fun. Greg, there was a question mark in the sky. There was, I read that today, aliens, you know, aliens know that we're onto them. They do, they do, and they're
Starting point is 00:42:56 playing with us right now, they're messing with us. So they put a little question mark in the sky so that we would freak out. This was daytime, nighttime, what happened? Well, it's nighttime, of course. No, okay. So there's an image on the screen now. No, it's an outer space. I don't think outer space has daytime.
Starting point is 00:43:11 No. Like, it's not like outer space. Yeah, there it is right there. Yeah. Okay, that's not Photoshopped. Aliens did that. Look at the galaxies. There's a galaxy literally right now.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It could, it looks more photoshopped. Yeah, it's an outer space. That's a deep space telescope. Is this like that thing where we found out that we were looking at this really great telescope and then it was like, oh, it's actually a piece of trotters so that they took a picture of and it wasn't actually what we thought it was. It's possible. Yeah, it's possible. Wouldn't this be like a galaxy? Like so aliens created a galaxy that we're seeing that's in the shape of a question mark just to mess with us. Seems like a long way to go to mess with this tiny planet over here.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Well, but you know, don't underestimate alien intelligence. You know, maybe to them. I'd like to. That's the days, why? By the way, just this assumption that aliens are so much smarter than us. Bullshit. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Why do we have to just assume that aliens are so smart? And that we're not, I have not seen an alien iPhone. I have not seen an alien anything. Like, why do we always assume that aliens are so smart and that we're not that I have not seen an alien iPhone. I have not seen an alien anything. Like why do we always assume that aliens are so much smarter than us? Why would the question mark be the big move? Oh, we got them a question mark. Exactly. If they were so smart, why would they do that?
Starting point is 00:44:18 I haven't seen an alien flag on the moon. Have you guys seen an American flag there? And by the way, Russians trying to go to the moon and then crashing into it, dumb, dumbs. That was a big trick for us. If they were so smart, why do we have them? Why do we have them trapped? Why are we studying them? Are they really studying us?
Starting point is 00:44:34 Well, the assumption is that they're smart because they have technology that's only foreign to us. And if you watch these videos of UFOs, dancing across the sky, impossible for our technology to get to know. That's the government. Just so you guys know. I'm reading an article now that says
Starting point is 00:44:47 it is not a question mark built by aliens. It is a star forming clouds. That's exactly what the aliens are. So that's what they want to say. Thinking about the other days, there's been so many sightings here on Earth of UFOs and unexplained phenomenon. But we have satellites in space, we have a space station out there. There's never been a sighting outside of our planet. So why is that? Where are these
Starting point is 00:45:16 UFOs coming from? And I was thinking I was just working on it. I'm just working on it. I'm workshopping. Isn't it these two fingers? I think it's this no I think you're doing double guns. I think he was here. Yeah, no I don't think he wasn't he wasn't doing the pistol peat. He wasn't it was it was yeah He was doing yeah, but two fingers is the whole look this up I'm like a dog with a bone on this, but I think he threw up two fingers on each hand guys I do have a correction Lewis got a mayor. Let me know that we have not landed on the moon just just in case He says the Buzz Aldrin told him hmm not him but the world yeah no Buzz Aldrin has been
Starting point is 00:45:52 edited all over the internet to make it sound like he is being he's telling people flatly that they were never on the moon and people are like wow that's crazy he's telling people it's just like can you not hear the clear edits this is not real why is that though why is that and it's just like, can you not hear the clear edits? This is not real. Why is that, though? Why is that? And here's a theory that I was just chewing on. It's a hypothesis. What if the aliens are, we've always heard that we know more about outer space than we
Starting point is 00:46:17 know about our own oceans? And there's places in the ocean, there are places in the ocean that are so remote that you won't find any human within 250 miles of it. What if the aliens are coming from our own oceans? Then they're not aliens. Fish. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:46:43 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, time about space. Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about aliens. Oh, I'm talking about these UFOs. Where are they coming from? Why haven't they been seen so the UFOs flew out of the bottom? I don't believe this with conviction. I'm just asking the question. I'm just asking the question. I've seen a UFO and you know where I saw the UFO? Yeah, I saw a UFO when I was younger in San Diego and you know where I saw it coming from? Yeah, I saw a UFO when I was younger in San Diego. And you know where I saw it coming from? The horizon, the ocean. You saw a UFO fly out of the bottom of the ocean
Starting point is 00:47:09 when you were in San Diego. No, I saw it. I don't wanna say out of town. I don't wanna say out of town. I saw it come from the horizon. I was on the west coast and there was nothing but ocean on that side. I saw this orb come from the ocean across the sky.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Well, you know that's not flat, right? Like it's around earth. So things look like they're coming out of the ocean across the sky. Well, you know that's not flat, right? Like it's around earth. So things look like they're coming out of the ocean. Really? And what are the drawings of the aliens? They kind of look like a fish, or at least they could be covered, you know, swimming in the water, I think.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Well, I also have another theory that, Octopi. 100%. Yeah, the octopus is an alien. I agree with you. Wait a second, what is it about? Because I've read a bunch of random facts about Octopi and I've never really
Starting point is 00:47:51 Remembered any of them. They're genetic structure. They're genetic structures unlike anything else on our planet Do they just like rebuild themselves? Is that what happens? What happens when they lose a tentacle? They regrow. Yeah, regrows. Major regrows. What happens to the tentacle that's lost? That doesn't turn into another octopus, does it? No. Oh, thank God. It's eaten by other fish, I would imagine. The loose tentacle. Grilled up, delicious.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I know, they are good. I don't like the suction cups, though. I like the solid part. I don't want to be looked at as some Yahoo over here. It's a bit late. I don't want to, I don't firmly believe this, but I'm just throwing out a theory is why haven't, why isn't the space station? Maybe they have and they're just hiding it from us,
Starting point is 00:48:30 but we've run missions out to outer space. We have all these really expensive satellites out there, and yet for whatever reason, these UFOs, which are plentiful here on our planet and declassified now, we're talking about them out in the open, we've never really seen them outside of the Earth's atmosphere. So why is that? You would suggest that this is the only planet with life then because not aliens coming
Starting point is 00:48:52 from the places that they just couldn't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no distract us and have us look in space for all of the octopus aliens when really they're just living in the bottom of the ocean the whole time. There could be several creatures in the deepest parts of the ocean that can be accustomed to pressure that we don't know. You're a fan of the Meg. They just discovered a deep ocean inside of the deepest parts of the ocean. I think somewhere off the coast of Australia, There's a whole nother ocean below the ocean. There's so much that we don't know because pressure doesn't allow us.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Visibility is such that it makes it impossible. I'm just throwing it out there. I was thinking about this. I was not high. Just what if everything that we're seeing is actually from Earth itself? You know what the deepest part of the ocean looks like? Close your eyes.
Starting point is 00:49:41 That's what it looks like. That's how it looks like. So the human eye. I feel like you're changing here, Mike. So let me ask you a question. If you happen to be watching, let's just say of Colts practice. And Anthony Richardson, through like a laser of a pass. That was picked off, but it was intercepted.
Starting point is 00:49:59 What would you think about it? That's not hard to believe at all. Are you trying to paint a hypothetical here? I saw that all season long last year. And what would you think about it. That's not hard to believe at all. Are you trying to paint a hypothetical here? I saw that all season long last year. And what would you think about it? Well, I would say that that's who Anthony Richardson is. You wouldn't be impressed by the interception though. I just want to make sure you're not entirely turning into Tony.
Starting point is 00:50:18 No, I'm not. Because right now it seems like you are. Look, you're projecting onto me that I'm some crazy conspiracy theorist. And this is not a theory. Not it is not a conspiracy. It is merely a theory and I'm just running it by you. 10-day mic. I'm just, I'm not telling you what to think.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I'm just asking you if you'd like to. You'd like us to think, are all the aliens coming from our own ocean? Like we just haven't covered that part of the ocean yet. I went back and forth as should I run this theory by some friends because I was worried of what they think of me and you're just proven, my point that I should just-
Starting point is 00:50:51 I should just- That we're not your friends. No, that I should have just shut my mouth because it's just something, it's interesting. Let me- I didn't pick that up from anywhere, it just came that up. Oh my, oh.
Starting point is 00:51:01 And Cowboy Carl said. Not even running by Cowboy Carl. Probably should have. I think I want to defend Michael a little bit Do you yeah? I want to defend Mike here because for the record I don't believe in aliens, but that's from a lack of knowledge and information while they made that question mark So now are you a believer? No because that's been disputed now. Oh the question mark But I will say the aliens because what's Lucy hiding is the question I think Do you know nothing? I'm just a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of It changes everything. I will say this though. If we assume Jesus and Hesus Luzardo, if we assume alien life is so intelligent,
Starting point is 00:51:49 then why don't we assume that there are aliens among us right now? Why do we assume that they're on some far off unnamed planet when they could be walking down? This is my guy right here. He's asking a number on question. It's because they see how we react when we just see something in the sky. Like imagine how we're gonna react, I was at Duncan yesterday.
Starting point is 00:52:09 It's also so hot right now. Why would you want a vacation here in the summer? See, you all are thinking of aliens as green people with things coming out of their head. What if aliens can morph into a human like figure, like men in black? Yeah, and be among us. I think we're all looking up to the stars
Starting point is 00:52:26 and possibly maybe, just maybe. We're looking in the wrong direction, my friends. Hmm. This is that slippery slope that leads to like the Jewish reptiles run Hollywood, right? No, what the hell are you doing, Jeremy? No, no. No, it's kind of what happens.
Starting point is 00:52:41 No, it's not. It's kind of, it's kind of what happens. It's not, no, I'm just, I'm just gonna watch it happen. Over and happens. No, it's not. It's kind of what happens. It's not. I'm just kind of watched it happen over and over for the last decade. See what happens when you put yourself in that box, 10-day mic.

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