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Episode Date: August 22, 2023Izzy has one big regret from yesterday's show: too much wiener talk. We're also joined by the most powerful man in international media, Greg Cote, to discuss the Lionel Messi's recent press conference.... Then, why is Damian Lillard still in Portland? Plus, we need a "Go Get Him" column from Greg for Jonathan Taylor, Stephen A. on Family Feud, and celebrities and athletes with the same name. Also, aliens: why haven't we found those yet? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat Sputcast.
Upon reflection, there might have been a little bit too much wiener talk yesterday.
Yeah, yeah
Confirmation I have to admit I was like to my wife. I was like things were said at work today
Yeah, when Billy said to me
You know, you're just gonna say anything that's on your mind
I said, you know what? Maybe we should we should go through a filter here and so especially coming from me
Billy clearly couldn't control the conversation so he got sent to the back today
Yeah on my left and I'm easy good tears of ESPN today. Yeah. On my left, then I'm Izzy Gutierrez of ESPN, not Dan Lebertard.
On my left, we got Mike Ryan, who probably will be more under control or control this
the conversation a little bit more from here.
Well, not a second.
Was it my job to control you yesterday?
Not necessarily control, but participate enough to where I was in leading the conversation
in a particular direction.
I would throw in week zero,
I went to Kid Rock and Bud Light,
which I never thought was gonna happen.
I was just like, let's do anything.
But...
Really was really locked in yesterday.
I was, I had notes, I was checking things off,
crossing things off, depending,
and if I decided we adequately covered a topic,
I'd draw a line all the way through it,
or I do like a little check mark or a half line.
And then when I would check in with you,
you'd be like, what? Well, you know, that is the Stugots chair.
No, you know your teammate.
Yeah, well, he's just playing the role at that point.
But first time teammate.
We can forget about the topic after this, but there was an obvious follow-up that nobody
asked you.
It's just you got a circumcision at 18.
Number one, did it hurt?
What's the recovery time look like?
Only the mornings hurt.
And the recovery time was about a week. About a, maybe a week and a half.
Can I ask a question and we're back.
Yeah, I feel like this isn't where we should go.
How long till you got back on the horse?
Go ahead, Bill.
Do you go to, like, is it like,
that's a cosmetic thing at that point, right?
So you get like a plastic surgeon, like,
where would you even, like, if you're interested
in having said, procedure done,
do you go to like your primary care physician?
Like, I didn't have a primary, it was a key.
And I went somewhere, and I told them,
I said, like, I need this and he was like,
you know what, you're right.
Does it get a cute little neck brace?
Great codeys here.
Doesn't work on a dogone like a dog all right enough
You guys need me for this hour. I said step up Chris get us out of here
And that was his father here visual with a code is long if this keeps up. Okay. Well, like I said we can close a book there
But I mean there was still some meat on that bone. We've got whoa. Well, no there isn't
No, it's just it was just the hoodie. It's more of a fake.
Yeah.
Greg, don't worry, we're not going there with you today.
No, we'll see you in.
Wait, are you circumcised?
I am.
I'm not enough.
All right.
We've gone too far to warn you now.
Yeah, but I didn't wait until 18.
You go around the room.
Enough.
I think I was 18 minutes old when they did mine.
But you went to a place, not a doctor?
It was a doctor's office. What do you mean? I don't know. Maybe you went to a place not a doctor. It was a doctor's
office. I don't know. I mean, maybe it was a tattoo parlor or something. Right. I know
it's not a tattoo. I got Greg this entire entire side of the glass is cut. We need to move
on. And here I thought right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Just gave me a nod. Greg. We'll see
NA. Not playing this game. Greg. I saw that there was a question mark in the sky the aliens put there
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Thank you for getting us all the
Commutation here. I those get there and John Wiener's not even here to contribute. That's the irony
Jeremy I don't want to make assumptions, but it'd be an upset
I'm marking you down as a yes
Greg
Greg you are the most powerful man in international media, you know.
Am I?
Yeah, apparently.
How's that?
Because we have here in Miami the most famous athlete in the world.
Yeah, we do.
I almost said maybe, but he's the most famous athlete in the world based on
Tyler Hero.
Instagram followers, I think.
And Leon El Messi outside of that one storm-filled event where he was introduced hasn't really
talked to the media or hadn't really talked to the media at all.
And then Greg, Greg Cody, put his foot down via print.
What'd you do?
I wrote a column after not the last game, but the previous one where they got to the final. And I said, this is getting
to be a little bit ridiculous that he in the NLJU's was imagine LeBron James comes to the
heat. And he's been here a whole month and he still hasn't said anything. He hasn't
done a press conference. He hasn't spoken to the media. He, and six days later they had
the messy press conference. So I took a victory lap. You know, on my podcast, the great Cody show,
I took a victory lap, even though I'm sure
it was totally coincidental, but it made me look good.
When you went to the press conference,
was everyone congratulating you and saying,
good column, it's because of you that were here right now.
I'm sure they were, but I wasn't there to hear it.
Wait, no, I didn't go to the press conference.
Wait a minute, hold on a second.
What, I mean, you demanded a press conference
and then didn't attend.
I didn't demand, I said, it would benefit the fans
and the team.
What were you doing?
Okay, I was off that day, I wasn't writing that day.
And the stories are though.
This is the most famous athlete to ever play in South Florida.
Yeah, I checked with Michelle Kaupman
who covers the team great for the girl.
She's fantastic.
You basically said you got it?
No, I said, are you going?
I assume you're going and when she said yes,
I didn't see a need to go on my day off.
He was playing the note the other day that,
oh, there wasn't room for me,
but the Harold only had one spot.
That'll go to that.
I'm like, Dad, you could have gone.
If I had forced my way and I'm sure I could have,
but I chose not to.
Forced my way.
You're never gonna get the opportunity
to speak to the man again.
Oh, I think we will.
Oh, really?
He's gonna be here two more years after this.
But how do I know that you'll go to the press conference?
Are you gonna demand he say something and then not print it?
No.
It was actually a pretty cool press conference.
There's rumors that he actually mentioned my dad in it.
We have here, with translation, we have here a clip of his press conference.
First, I'd like to thank Greg Cody, who's Miami-Herald column convinced
and or Miami to finally let me speak to the public.
I constantly find myself inspired by his
words and stories, especially those about 1440.
Mr. Cody, will you please stand up?
That kind of thing.
So, Greg's logos and wish them well this fantasy season.
Many of you have asked about my pre-match rituals.
I have a few, but none is effective as listening to the Greg Cody show with Greg Cody during warm-ups.
I love that show so much that I even listen to it when warming up for other things.
Baby, nothing sets the mood quite like three facts Jack, and you know it.
The move to enter Miami has introduced me to an elevated level of fashion.
I found that I love Western style pearl button shirts and anything from the selection at
shop.thegregcotishow.com.
I'm proud of the success we've had so far and there are many great things to come.
Right now we have our party hats on.
Will I sign a contract extension and stay here beyond the next two seasons.
Y'ne never know, now put a low-boss mint under all your pillows and dream big.
Good night everyone.
Thank you very much.
It's a big fan of you.
Wow, great.
You are so influenced.
I am so honored that Messi would mention me at some length.
At length?
Yeah, in the press conference.
I should have gone.
The Argentinian accent is usually pretty tricky
for me to pick up on, but I don't think he actually said
Greg Cody, you know.
Wait, what?
Hey, I heard it.
I heard it.
I heard it.
I heard it.
I heard it.
We hired a professional translator, so as soon as it looks.
Greg, at this point, you need to hold out for the one on one, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Like, you got everyone else the time. I feel like now it's time for, you need to hold out for the one on one, right? Yeah, I think so. Like, you got everyone else the time.
I feel like now it's time for, you know.
Exclusive.
Yeah, especially now that I know that he's a fan of my podcast.
You've got to see your pod before sex.
I have it.
Is he, I want to make a quick correction.
You said you, you threw out there that Messi was
a most followed athlete on, on social media.
Ronaldo actually has 601 million followers.
To Messi's 483 last time.
That's interesting.
Really?
Yeah, it's quite a golf.
Yeah, I agree with this.
I agree with this, though.
I think if you're off the top of your head,
you're saying who is the biggest athlete in the world right now,
I think it's Messi.
Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of superficial reasons
as to why Ronaldo would be more followed
than Lino Messi.
Also, he's just a little bit more active there.
Although Messi's kind of finding his voice,
and that's what I thought was so cool
about the presser that you demanded Greg is,
he actually provided pretty thoughtful
and insightful answers.
This was a person that didn't really like talking
on the media, he kind of enjoyed it.
You saw how long at length he spoke about the Greg Gaudi show. Yeah, yeah. And he did a couple of one on one separately, too.
Yeah, he gave really good revelatory answers about how much he didn't enjoy.
His time in Paris and he gave up the good saying, now I'll play on artificial turf,
right? Which I mean, is a leveraging tactic that you could have
made to improve the league, but he's like, no, I'll play.
And that's the thing about Lionel Messi, and Data Martino also gave voice to this name.
Data, Messi likes playing all the time.
Yeah.
And if you watch his playing, Sali does conserve his energy.
He comes off a little bit lazy sometimes.
He just walks across the pitch, and then with the stamp of the finger he turns it on
Amazing, which is why you need a bunch of work courses around messy to make it work and Argentina found their success in
Building a team that would do all the work and let messy just be special as we saw in the cup final
He can be special in these moments in these flashing moments so he can serve as energy
He wants to play all the time
It's amazing because he's played all seven matches since he's been here. It started the last six and now they play Wednesday and in the US Open Cup semi-final and then
Saturday in the resumption of MLS and he's going to play both games. He said he's going to play
Wednesday. You have to assume he's going to play Saturday. It does not like getting subbed out. He
likes playing all the time. At age 36, I think he's a marvel, but like you say, he walks during a game more than
any other player of everything.
But he's so instinctual, doesn't get caught off side really all that much.
He's that this is how he will age with grace.
And if he conserves his energy like that, he doesn't play a physical game.
And I was worried about the league scub because the Mexican teams don't have this shared
investment in Messi.
Yeah. I was worried about the league's cup because the Mexican teams don't have this shared investment in Messi Yeah, I imagine that once the the league season resumes here in on Saturday when he's playing against New York Red Bulls
The officials are gonna I mean, I if you want to read into a conspiracy theory
The way that he's going to be officiated is pretty is going to be pretty tough
If you're trying to stop the man because everyone needs to protect this investment. Yeah, so the teams don't give a shit. They'll just kick the hell out of them walking around at 36
I'm not that impressed with if you want to play Flack football with me at 46 then I'll be impressed
But wow, we can't let we can't let Greg Cody skate here. Are they ever gonna wear the black jerseys?
Yeah, yeah, they'll definitely wear those. It's I mean part superstition
But also part like in soccer, home jerseys,
it's really a primary jersey, and unless you're playing a team that has a similar color scheme
and not many teams do, you tend to stick to your primary jersey.
Greg, you tried to convince, by the way, you're in your 69th year of life, congratulations,
we've been not talking about that enough.
I'm still not there.
No, no, you are in your 69th year of life.
You will celebrate your 69th birthday coming up.
Okay, that's true.
Yeah, that's true.
Because we're all one on our first birthday.
Yes.
And you're literal birthday is the birthday
that nobody counts.
But you tried to tell your son
that the reason you weren't at the press conference
for messy was that because he doesn't understand journalism.
I'm pretty sure he understands what a day off means,
and that you just didn't want to work.
You tried to tell him on your podcast
that he didn't understand journalism,
so could you explain journalism to me?
Well, journalism at my age and in my situation
is that I don't make work for myself if it's not asked to me.
I just don't have to ask.
But you made the work, I asked you for the press conference.
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It's number one of my top five cookie lists, yes.
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But Lauren Green played the head cowboy in Bananza.
Thank you.
You're so old.
Thank you.
Yeah, the stumbling on his word,
the precise manner of it was as old as you've ever sounded
It's two gods also. Why did you say thank you at the end of that? Oh because I'm I'm enlightening people people out there
Notting like Bob has going. Yeah, yeah, Lauren green, Benanza. I remember you're welcome
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We'd watch them at 1440 on a black and white
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Oh, that was a long time.
Yeah, my turn, that's mine.
My grandma used to watch those shows every day, right?
Damn right.
She would have been 90 this year.
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We haven't talked about Lillard in a while,
and with good reason, there hasn't really been much
on the Damien Lillard front.
If you're a heat homer and defensive,
you're happy that the NBA said they're going to look
into this James Harden thing
because he did some of the similar things,
but Lillard on a posting spree when he released new music
did something that made Miami Heat
fans per cup.
He reposted an IG story of someone just merely mentioning the word Miami.
And that's good enough for me to reignite my excitement for Damien Lillard.
Also, other little tea leaves are that the NBA schedule came out and there's only one
Portland Trailblazer
nationally televised game. It's against Miami and it's after the trade deadline.
Very shortly after the trade. Very shortly. And look, Dan's done a bunch of reporting on
this. I can confirm that the internal feeling inside the Miami Heat is that they're not
going to negotiate against themselves. It's cyclical. Yeah, you can have your strong opinions
that the offer is not up to snuff,
but the reality of the situation is,
it's the best offer out there.
And if you want Miami's offer to get better,
someone's going to need to top that offer,
and no one has.
So to lash out the Miami Heat's offer for being bad,
they're not just gonna make it better to appease you.
And Damien, unfortunately, is this type of superstar, or fortunately for his whole reputation?
It's a good guy's finished last situation.
Yeah, he's not gonna do the things to make that situation untenable, is he?
And that's typically what superstars, or even people like Goran Droggich have to do to
get their way.
Didn't mean to tell that story.
He convinced Goran of making a stink out in Phoenix.
But the thing about Damian is right next to James Hardin, he looks just as bad. Even though he's
been doing it about as normal about the right way, if there is a right way to do this.
Well, you know what I mean? The super stars have. You know why that is, though.
Because major entities are doing the bidding. I'm not going to put you in an uncomfortable position,
but you have places like the ringer that are now arguing that Damien Lillard should team up with Rudy Gober and Anthony
Edwards. That's my favorite. So far, there's been a lot of really unbelievable trade propositions thrown
out there as here's how we can get Damien Lillard away from Miami and wanting to be in Miami. But
saying he should willingly team up with Rudy Go Bear in Minnesota has to be at the top.
Don't you quit?
Don't you as a Miami Heat fan say,
Hey, we are at that Boston Celtics level of hate or I don't know if the Lakers have that level of hate when they were really good, but yeah,
Everybody, you know hates us because ainess and
And it's just one of those situations where they're just openly saying it now. And even other GMs are saying, you know what, not that team.
No one wants to see this happen.
I think that part is funny because I think it's also, there's these different reputations
with the Lakers, with the Knicks, with the Celtics, where everybody believes like, oh, when
that team is good, basketball is at its best.
The same way, realistically, we sometimes talk about certain college football programs
that way.
And here in Miami, we know that at the top of college football, we talk about how great it
is when Miami is great and how that's good for the game.
When you look at it in basketball, I don't know that those franchises need to be great
for basketball to be great.
We've seen now, when the warriors are great, that's great for basketball.
When the heat are great, that's great for basketball.
Well, there's a reason why people only talk about that when like the nicks are in the playoffs
and they're good because they're not good all the time.
And so when they are good, it's not, it's good for basketball.
It's just refreshing.
And so anything that's refreshing is good for the sport.
You just tie it in because, oh, it's New York and you make it feel like it's a bigger
deal.
I do hate that tired line though.
Every time I hear it, oh, the NBA is better when the Celtics and Lakers are relevant.
The NBA is better when the nicks are relevant.
In my lifetime, the nicks haven't been relevant all that much.
The NBA seems to be doing just fine.
And that old adage doesn't apply to the Miami Heat in basketball, even though business
boomed during a great run for the Miami Heat.
And the Miami Heat outside of maybe the Spurs, and there's a handful of team Spurs,
Lakers, Warriors, Heat.
They're among the greatest franchise, franchise is in that sport of this century.
Sensor Inception, if you project their success over the long term, they're more gloryed
franchise than the likes of Philadelphia and the likes of Boston.
People tried to tell you while it was happening, that it was bad for basketball.
The Miami Heat's Big Three, but it was just again because it wasn't their teams.
Because I just did that podcast for years of Heat, Chris loves the name.
And when you talk about those teams, I talked about those players.
They look back at those times and they loved it.
There was just the purity of competition.
They loved what LeBron and Dwayne and Chris represented as players. They weren't some, you know,
just all about Hollywood like Jo Kim Noah tried to imply
Trio that were just doing it for the fame. They were pure competitors and it brought that level to the league like look
What they made the spurs do play perfect basketball in an NBA finals to win a championship. That's not bad for the league
They did it very well and in the national animus against the big three heat and how the big three reveled in it
was just delicious to watch. It was a four year joy ride to be down here and witness not only the
greatness of that team, but how everybody else hated us and it was terrific. But on Lillard, I have a question for you guys,
for everybody, because am I the only one surprise
that there isn't a bigger, more competitive market
for Lillard's services?
It can't just be that he's threatening,
I have to go to Miami.
If I don't go to Miami, I'm an unhappy guy.
It's got to be more than that.
That seems to be what it is, though.
And you know that meme from the office
where everyone's got the finger guns
and it's three people facing off,
I understand why people are projecting.
Hell, as a heat fan, I'm projecting on the media
carrying water, but everyone is upset.
Be it the Miami Heat with not a good enough offer
and as I mentioned, it's cyclical
because there's no better offer out there
to force the Miami offer to improve. Me as a heat fan, I'm mad at Portland because there
are no better offers out there. What are we going to do? You're the ones prolonging this.
And you have this amorphous entity, which is all the other teams that are refusing to get
a better offer out there because as we know, Lillard wants to be in one spot. And when
you want to be in one spot and you're that great of a player, but you're at the
point in your career where you are when you're Damien Lillard and you're past 30 and you
have the contract and the numbers of what that contract is going to look like, you have
to be the right team, the right organization and the right place right now to be able to
compete with the core that you would have built around Damien Lillard immediately.
And so that immediately siphons off at least half of the league
from wanting to compete in this sort of offer.
Then there are other teams that get eliminated based off
the fact that they just like their cores enough
and their cores are younger,
and they might not want to move pieces for Damien.
And so then you're looking at basically six or seven teams
who would want to be in on it,
looking at their superstars, at their situations,
at the fact that Damien wants to be in Miami and saying, no, we don't want to make an offer that's that much more
competitive than whatever the offer is that's being made by Miami, which is why we've ended
up in this weird stalemate where 50 some odd days later after a trade request, we're
still sitting here.
But in Simmons defense, from Portland's perspective, is, is Carl Anthony Towns not a better
offer than Tyler?
Tyler, I was just thinking about this.
So like, you've got me thinking all this time
about that idea and just the the co-I Leonard of it all.
Like, hey, let's not tell him,
send him where he wants to go.
Let's make that figure, figure that out
after his contract is up.
And when you've got the Anthony Edwards doing what he's doing
with Team USA and Steve Kerr saying,
he's unquestionably the guy.
And you've got, you've got a potential big time talent
that you can get back.
I would see Alex Rodriguez
as the exact type of team owner or part owner
that would push for that.
It's like we put all our chips in with Rudy Gobert.
Why would we stop now?
Let's go for a championship.
And if he wants to leave after a year,
fight, let him leave after a year.
It starts with an MI.
It is a different situation than
that in that quay had an expiring deal.
Whereas he probably wouldn't have that strong opinions on, yeah, okay, I'll go there for
a year. It's fine. If Lillard had an expiring deal, that would change the entire narrative.
Here what I'm interested in is Portland's perspective.
Well, Carl Anthony Towns fits better. It's a better piece for the rebuilding project.
You and I were talking about this.
If Portland is rebuilding, why are they trying
to make a roster that just fits a mass talent?
Look what they he did.
Tyler Hiro is probably in his career,
gonna make the All Star game a couple of times.
Rebuild like Cleveland did.
I don't care where the positions are.
We'll find the continuity somewhere else.
Let's just build.
And you can do that really quickly
if you're a good organization.
I mean, look at what Miami did in 03.
They had Dwayne, Karam Butler, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, and they had a great season.
Ray Feralsen flipped all that into Shaq and then a year after that win a championship.
And so if you're Portland, the last thing you're trying to do is compete next year.
In fact, you're probably way better off tanking next year and then just officially starting
the rebuild the following year.
But yes, this is one of those situations where if the heat don't find, if there's not
another person creating an offer for them, they're just going to be stuck here for a while.
The part that's funny also when you talk about the Minnesota trade, right, is they gave
up all those first-round picks to get rid of you to go bare.
So it's literally, hey, we can offer you Carl Anthony Towns as a direct swap for Damien
Lillard, which I don't know that I don't
I don't see a reason why that would make sense for Portland outside of trying to get Damien Lillard out of town
Which if you're gonna send him to a place he doesn't want to go then why would you do it?
It all just seems sort of convoluted to look back at at an offer that Miami's making
I we what you were just talking about we talked about three weeks ago on this show four weeks ago on the show
Which was it's not about the offer
to make Portland the most competitive team right now.
It's what can amass them?
The most amount of talent,
the most amount of picks to be able to build
their future around Scoot Henderson.
I mentioned the other day how I get Carmelo Anthony vibes
from Damien Lillard, not so much type of player or whatever,
but just if you remember, obviously the big three,
set their contracts up to end at the same time,
come out, nah, just let it do a little different.
You wanted to get all the money possible.
And Damien Lillard doing it a little bit different,
trying to be a little bit more loyal,
and he's kind of getting burned here,
and he's not gonna do the James Harden thing
because he doesn't wanna look like James Harden,
looks right now, and so it's just like,
yeah, he just should have been the bad guy earlier.
Yeah, but in being the good guy is bottom nothing,
because he wants to go to one destination.
He's been really loyal to that franchise.
He's probably stuck it out several seasons
too long over there.
And nice guys finish last.
He's not having that kindness reciprocated
or I'm sure that's how he's looking at it
and to your point earlier about a maverick
getting involved like Alex Rodriguez
as a heat fan that just wants toien Lillard on the roster,
I welcome that.
Someone else, please get involved.
To force Miami's hand to make this offer better,
because everyone's just lamenting that Miami's not just saying,
okay, here's an extra couple first round picks
just to end this all already.
But that's dumb if you're trying to build.
But Greg, if the season starts
and Miami is in this holding pattern, how is my, how
are Miami Heat fans supposed to handle that?
You know what, they'll be disappointed, but they'll wait as long as he hasn't signed
one another team, I think they're in a holding pattern and I think they're okay with waiting.
But watching Tyler Hero play, that would be awkward.
That would be awkward.
Yeah, but the price could go up Tyler Heroes the type of score that can go
out and get 35 and in game one and the season and you can all just be like price
went up yesterday's price is not today's price do we believe though that if
Damien Lillard is traded to another team beside Miami and that it's a good
situation he's going to a contender don Don't we think he's going to play
100% do we really think that he's going to let his play be affected by the fact that he's not
to the team he wanted to go but he's in a good situation. I don't believe that. I don't think you're
going to see any change in his level of play. I think he's a professional. He's competitive
and I think he's going to play like it no matter where he goes i don't buy
the whole idea that
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It does not sound better.
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Is hey, everybody.
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Legendary Miami Herald columnist Greg Cody is in with us as he is every Tuesday.
And I make that status, Greg, when I left the Miami Herald in 2012.
Did you guys say, oh man, we just lost a legend?
Yes.
Lies.
Yeah, I did.
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Nobody else did pop it.
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Sure, but I had to ask him.
But I am asking you.
Yeah, good callback.
I am asking you to run it back.
Yeah.
And do what you do best.
Jonathan Taylor, go get him.
Look, I said a couple of weeks ago
when Dalvin Cook was still available,
that they don't need Dalvin Cook,
that Raheem Mostert, to me, is a very underrated back.
The rare, the rare don't go get him calling.
But, but, there's a but here.
Greg's but.
Jonathan Taylor is better than Dalvin Cook.
He's younger, appreciably younger,
especially at that position where being four years younger
is important, crucial.
And so, yeah, I can see depending on what the askin' price price is I can see them going for Jonathan Taylor I don't think I'd
give up a first run pick for I don't well that's what I think they think they're
gonna get a first round pick well that the reports are there in their
leveraging the media as everyone does and I think we're kind of getting
exposed to what the game is between insiders and these teams but I I want to
really harp on it.
I know he's a good fit for Miami,
not necessarily a good fit at 16 million.
Maybe this is a type of scenario
where his team seeks out a trade
in which they think they can get an extension,
but it's not totally contingent on that.
But Jim Merseys, I mean, he's funny regardless,
but no, we don't wanna pay you market value, Jonathan Taylor. But when you're out on
the trade market, we want to first round pick. We will, we will, we value you that much, but we're not
going to value you enough to give you the offer that demand that would go in line with a first round
draft pick. Jim, I always say playing both shides here, Greg. Right. Well, look, whenever I write, go get them. And I do like star power on a team.
I do.
I love that.
You're a sucker for star power.
I'm a sucker for star power.
You're a sucker for cup in your hand up against your ear.
Right.
And speaking directly to the Miami Dolphin fan base with go get them.
Jonathan Taylor.
Or demanding press conferences.
It works sometimes, by the way, because you did that with messy.
And it's going great.
Thank you very much. And you also wrote the messy, because you did that with Messi, and it's going great, Adam, so yeah.
And you also wrote the Messi go-get-em column, too.
Yeah, thank you, Greg.
Of course.
Greg, your finger pins are all over
this whole Messi situation, aren't they?
Yeah, they really are, you know, I hate to brag.
Look, it's all a matter of what it takes
to get Jonathan Taylor.
If they can get him for a second round pick, hell yes.
Immediately.
Brick me if I'm wrong,
Dolphin's gonna have a third or a fourth, right?
Yeah, but dad, you're the fantasy guy that,
like let's send them three backups for Jonathan Taylor.
Like you have to make a trade that they're,
like, it's gonna take a first round pick.
Yeah, I know, Jonathan Taylor.
Then I wouldn't do it.
I would not give up a first round pick for Jonathan Taylor.
Can I ask you a question, Cody?
What did you wave Billy off so aggressively for?
You were so disoriented.
That was me, he was waving on.
He wasn't Chris, I was calling him out because he was doing a whole thing
about you go off to Jonathan Taylor you don't go after Dalvin Cook while on
on the bright line this morning my dad was like Dalvin Cook, Jonathan Taylor,
same player. Comparable skill.
Yeah, perfectly good trail. But as I said as I said to Mike at that position and
maybe that position alone,
the difference between 27 and 23 is very large at running.
I think Kansas City is an interesting option
for Jonathan Taylor.
They got to figure out what they're going to do
with Chris Jones, and they're not in the greatest
cap situation, but this could be a one-year loner type of deal.
I imagine Jim Orsay would be like,
Nick Young with the question marks
all around his face, like, wait,
so you'll take a low tier offer,
you'll play for the same total for them,
but not for me, but yeah,
that from what you're hearing from Jonathan Taylor's camp
is this is a principle thing too.
He's insulted that the team he's produced for so long
is not giving him fair market value.
Cody, you have a bunch of question marks around your face.
Do you know who Nick Young is?
Do you remember what the reference was
that he was talking about, right?
No, I don't think so.
No.
It's Swaggy P.
Why would I say Swaggy P is the full of help?
Whatever happened to Jonathan Taylor Thomas.
Great question.
JTT.
Was he a popular kid?
Because I remember him on all the teen...
Tiger covered. Tiger young stuff.
He's got to be like, you're age, right?
Young's.
I think he's got to be over 40.
He's 41.
Yeah.
Wow.
Is he still a good?
That's Beyonce's age.
I think you went to school or something, big mistake.
Kids, don't go to school.
At school?
If you're a Hollywood actor, don't go to school.
You don't need it for anything.
You're going to be a star forever.
Oh.
He's not a star forever.
Well, because he went to school, which is the mistake.
Yeah.
If you're a young and upcoming star,
don't bother with school.
You don't need it.
I'm seeing a picture here from 21.
He's like a director or something, right?
I'm like, he's not looking at something.
He's like the old JTT.
Was he from home improvement?
Yes.
Who among us, Chris?
I'm not throwing stones.
It's just, I would have thought, if you would have said to me,
I would have thought he would have still looked like him when you've like wait like years ago
JTT look like a portrait almost
I thought JTT was gonna look like JTT like beat like a heartthrob forever. Is he a short king?
Yeah, for sure. He's got like a jewel in
Is Jonathan Taylor the type of running back for Mike McDaniel?
I know he's like a little bit bigger, burlier, is he?
I don't know how fast he is.
It's got to be pretty fast, right?
I mean, Mike Daniel's own running scheme,
which is from the shader's hand.
Not matter.
I mean, most of it's got great speed on the outside.
The zone running scheme is designed to get you on the outside,
but you can also be very successful, running straight on the outside. The zone running scheme is designed to get you on the outside, but you can also be very
successful running straight up the middle.
It's such a great zone blocking scheme that you can get production out of pedestrian
backs.
Like Orlando's Gary had a thousand yard season, right?
One year running behind this.
Alfred Morris out of FAU had a really successful productive season, his rookie year in this
scheme.
You get a talented back like Jonathan Taylor and you couple that with a tried and true
brilliant hack.
It is an NFL offensive hack.
If you run the zone blocking scheme that is from the Shayna hand tree, you will get running
production.
And that's another reason why the dolphins are just about the last team that would overpay
for Jonathan Taylor.
Especially when they need to pay a bunch of dolphins coming up.
Christian Wilkins, Javan Holland, Jalen Waddle, Jalen Phillips,
the dolphins have a bunch of money they need to spend.
So I'm glad they're not spending on running that.
But the LA Rams have proven, like if this is the window,
you go for it, you win your Super Bowl,
and you pay the consequences afterwards.
They had a similar situation where everybody's up,
and then you're gonna have to make difficult decisions.
But as much as I praised the zone blocking scheme
with the Shanahan tree, Mike McDaniel from that,
they're running a really struggle to come online.
It was confusing at the early part of the season.
We saw it gradually as the season went on
as it made the acquisition of Jeff Wilson
that it got better and better.
But what is
the ceiling?
What is the norm for this?
Is it the high end of what we saw last year and that's it?
That's the peak.
If so, then yeah, throw caution to the win.
Go out and get someone like Jonathan Taylor.
I'm not so sure about paying him $16 million over the course of his career, but you'll
cross that bridge when you need to get to.
I'm curious about the other side.
I'm curious about Jonathan Taylor or where any sort of high end running back wants to play
these days.
Do you want to play in a place where you're in every down back and they're wearing you
out and you're getting the big numbers, but you're probably two years away from not getting
into the contract, or do you want to go to a team maybe like the dolphins, which pass
heavy, run on occasion, save yourself for rotation, but will you get the big contract
as a result of that? Seems like it's lose, lose for them. Well, McCaffer got the big contract
by being a workhorse. There can be big contract. You have to be in the workhorse. You have to
be in the passing game part of the workhorse, right? You can't just be a handed off guy.
No one calls a pass catcher a workhorse, though. We come up with a different names for
them. I just call McCaffer. I think you want the big contract now, not knowing if you're
going to be in the league three years from now. So it's like, so you want the big contract now, not knowing if you're going to be in the league
three years from now.
So it's like, so you need the big numbers.
Don't worry about my knees later.
Exactly right.
Give me one big deal and I'll be good.
McCaffrey is a workhorse.
Went healthy.
That's a problem.
But Nick Chubb doesn't really get involved all that much in the passing game and he got his money.
In terms of health and his career, there's more of a rotation in a Mike McDaniel offense than there was in Indianapolis where he was the workhorse
But you just mentioned are you more inclined to get that big offer if you're playing in that kind of scheme
He just was and he wasn't getting that big kind of offer from Jim or said Tyree kill and Jalen Waddle are both gonna have at least
A hundred passes thrown their way at least
Maybe a hundred and twenty and this is not an offense that needs that work
course back. This offense is just fine with the committee led by Raheem Mostert.
You don't want to salt the game away. I think what you're saying goes against the identity
of Mike McDaniel's coaching scheme as entire time as a professional. It's just, okay,
we'll be explosive early on, and then we'll salt the
game away. Like the Atlanta Falcons of Calche and a Hand did several years ago. Control the
game on the ground as you've already imposed your will.
All right, I got a new game I want to play. It's called Forma Poker Hand. That is one card,
a great athlete, and your other card is a celebrity, but they have the same name. I'm going
with Jonathan Taylor and Jonathan Taylor Thomas. They don't have the same name. I'm going with Jonathan Taylor and Jonathan Taylor Thomas.
They don't have the same name as the Dipper.
Just close enough, this is like a similar game.
So it's close enough.
That's my jaker hand.
That's my jaker hand.
I don't think any of you can come up
with a poker hand better than mine.
Michael Jordan.
Shit.
Oh.
The game is ended.
The game is a little bit more fun.
JTT is five.
Short game.
Yeah.
And he also went to Harvard.
An efficient appearance from Lucy Roday.
If you're going to go to a school, I guess,
and break the bill and deal with a rule of celebrity,
that's a pretty good one.
I mean, he went to the winning argument, by the way.
Michael Jordan, boo, I'm out.
He went to Harvard to study philosophy and history.
I mean, listen, kids, if you're going to college,
those are two wasted majors, 100%. Like, that is listen kids, if you're going to college, those are two wasted majors.
100%. Like that is student debt if I have ever heard in my entire life philosophy. Another one,
Russian art history, no way. That's such a specific thing that you'd be studying that you need to,
like the jobs aren't a plenty on some of these majors. Are you saying JTT studied Russian art
history? No, that just an option?
No, my cousin major.
So that's just shade at your cousin.
Yeah, no, I told him, I got dude,
you're wasting your time getting a major in that.
That's not an essay.
You never know who's building a crew
and needs that skill set.
This is like, he's such a fit for Danny Ocean.
It's not even fully.
Oh, you're saying like to be a criminal?
There's a heist, if there's an art heist in Russia,
guess who's speed that, line one. I don't think it has to be in russia
just has to be russian art right right anywhere anywhere can you imagine being
on jeopardy and that's one of the categories
russian art speaking of jeopardy i heard that steven a smith
up was on family feud with his family and they got absolutely destroyed
which i think i think it's speaking of jeopardy technically
who was the competition i don't know
Roy told me i figured this was a lot of
for roida uh... yeah he played against
tamron halls team and was even
relatives
like steven a smith brought his
relatives to the show
and tamron hall did not know well that's not how
family food work you can't just pick
random people what you guys uh... what do you
guys make of the the espm move to bring
shannon sharp on two days?
I like what Sivanese is doing.
He's like, I'll argue with Mad Dog Rousseau one day a week.
I'll argue with JJ Reddick.
I'll argue with Michael Irvin.
But for two days, it's Shannon Sharp.
It's the fantasy booking.
I am learning of this at the very first moment.
Oh, you didn't.
No, I didn't.
No, it's a official.
You know what, you get the company.
Shannon Sharp.
I did not get the alert.
Two days ago, I like that idea.
I like Stephen A Smith arguing with Skip Bayless's other partner
and just sort of cutting him out of the deal.
Richard Sherman's also doing undispeed it.
Did you know that?
I did not know that.
Is he Friday?
So is Lil Wayne once a week.
Yeah.
How do we think that's gonna go?
Greg?
Lil Wayne?
This is Lil Wayne.
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Don't let it hard if you lob a 30 mile an hour fastball to a major leager of course
They're gonna hit a home run the worst major leager in baseball is gonna hit 10 or 12 home runs under that format
Being pitched that way to be throwing curve balls. No, what's your solution here?
It's it's a's a fake event.
It's like not even real.
Stugats.
Dad, you had a shoot-n-er-all.
Those were my deck shoes of long-standing.
Real event number.
Real shoes, right?
Exactly.
No, no, no.
I am with you, Greg.
What's wrong with that?
Be coming on that one.
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He got me on that one.
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So Stephen A's defense of his family losing
and family feud, 560 to nothing,
is that Tamron Hall cheated.
The quote is, we're supposed to be family feud,
but she had executive producers and researchers
I could have brought the crew.
That's what Stephen A says, but then it gets even better.
He said despite attempting to carry his team
with two number one answers,
which doesn't make any sense.
Smith said that he was a little rattled
by the response to his niece being on the show, quote,
it was my niece on the end,
who all the men were drooling at, Smith complained.
It was pissing me off and distracting me.
I don't like people looking at my niece like that.
The point I'm making is this, it was not the greatest representation of the Smith family I don't like people looking at my niece like that the point I'm making is this
It was not the greatest representation of the Smith family. There were some other relatives. I might have needed to have him just like
Him taking the victory lap on hold on a second. It was his niece's fault
It was the fault of the other team for training. It was everyone in his family
But him because you brought the wrong family members, which still wasn't his fault
Even though he had two number one and he had two number one answers.
He brought the crew.
Wouldn't the crew just argue with him because that's what he does.
He would have never.
They should have brought the crew.
They never would be in agreement on anything.
They would be all terrible at it.
Terrible at it.
That's the kind of behavior that he would openly lament on first take.
That is just not a good teammate right there.
That is passing the buck if I've ever seen it.
It's a bad look for Steven A Smith.
He doesn't do humility very often, does he?
Does Steven A, yeah, I mean, he has a humble voice.
He does.
It's in his locker.
Yeah.
You can do humility.
Wasn't this the time for it when you lose five, six, ten, no.
No, no, no.
This is the time for cartoon characters to be made.
It feels like we're setting up for a mean
to do a limited fake, but he's not here.
So I don't know what we're gonna do about it.
Actor Will Smith, Dodgers Catcher Will Smith.
Well done.
That's a good pass.
That's a good pass.
Russia, New Orleans, St. Will Smith too.
Ooh, more Bucky.
Not better than Michael Jordan.
Does that know?
No, I'm gonna play in the game.
No, I mean, as the game, I'm just gonna add more names
and try to pretend we're catching number one. we're having fun. Greg, there was a question
mark in the sky. There was, I read that today, aliens, you know,
aliens know that we're onto them. They do, they do, and they're
playing with us right now, they're messing with us. So they put
a little question mark in the sky so that we would freak out.
This was daytime, nighttime, what happened?
Well, it's nighttime, of course.
No, okay.
So there's an image on the screen now.
No, it's an outer space.
I don't think outer space has daytime.
No.
Like, it's not like outer space.
Yeah, there it is right there.
Yeah.
Okay, that's not Photoshopped.
Aliens did that.
Look at the galaxies.
There's a galaxy literally right now.
It could, it looks more photoshopped.
Yeah, it's an outer space.
That's a deep space telescope.
Is this like that thing where we found out that we were looking at this really great telescope
and then it was like, oh, it's actually a piece of trotters so that they took a picture
of and it wasn't actually what we thought it was. It's possible. Yeah, it's possible.
Wouldn't this be like a galaxy? Like so aliens created a galaxy that we're seeing that's
in the shape of a question mark just to mess with us. Seems like a long way to go to mess with this tiny planet over here.
Well, but you know, don't underestimate alien intelligence.
You know, maybe to them.
I'd like to.
That's the days, why?
By the way, just this assumption that aliens are so much smarter than us.
Bullshit.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why do we have to just assume that aliens are so smart?
And that we're not, I have not seen an alien iPhone.
I have not seen an alien anything. Like, why do we always assume that aliens are so smart and that we're not that I have not seen an alien iPhone. I have not seen an alien anything.
Like why do we always assume that aliens are so much smarter than us?
Why would the question mark be the big move?
Oh, we got them a question mark.
Exactly.
If they were so smart, why would they do that?
I haven't seen an alien flag on the moon.
Have you guys seen an American flag there?
And by the way, Russians trying to go to the moon and then crashing into it, dumb, dumbs.
That was a big trick for us.
If they were so smart, why do we have them?
Why do we have them trapped?
Why are we studying them?
Are they really studying us?
Well, the assumption is that they're smart
because they have technology that's only foreign to us.
And if you watch these videos of UFOs,
dancing across the sky, impossible for our technology
to get to know.
That's the government.
Just so you guys know.
I'm reading an article now that says
it is not a question mark built by aliens.
It is a star forming clouds.
That's exactly what the aliens are.
So that's what they want to say.
Thinking about the other days,
there's been so many sightings here on Earth of UFOs
and unexplained phenomenon. But we have satellites in space, we have a space station
out there. There's never been a sighting outside of our planet. So why is that? Where are these
UFOs coming from? And I was thinking I was just working on it. I'm just working on it. I'm
workshopping. Isn't it these two fingers? I think it's this no
I think you're doing double guns. I think he was here. Yeah, no
I don't think he wasn't he wasn't doing the pistol peat. He wasn't it was it was yeah
He was doing yeah, but two fingers is the whole look this up
I'm like a dog with a bone on this, but I think he threw up two fingers on each hand guys
I do have a correction Lewis got a mayor. Let me know that we have not landed on the moon just just in case
He says the Buzz Aldrin told him hmm not him but the world yeah no Buzz Aldrin has been
edited all over the internet to make it sound like he is being he's telling
people flatly that they were never on the moon and people are like wow
that's crazy he's telling people it's just like can you not hear the clear
edits this is not real why is that though why is that and it's just like, can you not hear the clear edits? This is not real. Why is that, though?
Why is that?
And here's a theory that I was just chewing on.
It's a hypothesis.
What if the aliens are, we've always heard that we know more about outer space than we
know about our own oceans?
And there's places in the ocean, there are places in the ocean that are so remote that
you won't find any human within 250 miles of it. What if the aliens are coming from our own oceans?
Then they're not aliens.
Fish. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, time about space. Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about aliens. Oh, I'm talking about these UFOs. Where are they coming from?
Why haven't they been seen so the UFOs flew out of the bottom?
I don't believe this with conviction. I'm just asking the question. I'm just asking the question. I've seen a UFO and you know where I saw the UFO?
Yeah, I saw a UFO when I was younger in San Diego and you know where I saw it coming from?
Yeah, I saw a UFO when I was younger in San Diego. And you know where I saw it coming from?
The horizon, the ocean.
You saw a UFO fly out of the bottom of the ocean
when you were in San Diego.
No, I saw it.
I don't wanna say out of town.
I don't wanna say out of town.
I saw it come from the horizon.
I was on the west coast and there was nothing
but ocean on that side.
I saw this orb come from the ocean across the sky.
Well, you know that's not flat, right?
Like it's around earth. So things look like they're coming out of the ocean across the sky. Well, you know that's not flat, right? Like it's around earth.
So things look like they're coming out of the ocean.
Really?
And what are the drawings of the aliens?
They kind of look like a fish,
or at least they could be covered, you know,
swimming in the water, I think.
Well, I also have another theory that,
Octopi.
100%.
Yeah, the octopus is an alien.
I agree with you.
Wait a second, what is it about?
Because I've read a bunch of random facts about
Octopi and I've never really
Remembered any of them. They're genetic structure. They're genetic structures unlike anything else on our planet
Do they just like rebuild themselves? Is that what happens? What happens when they lose a tentacle?
They regrow. Yeah, regrows. Major regrows. What happens to the tentacle that's lost? That doesn't turn into another octopus, does it?
No.
Oh, thank God.
It's eaten by other fish, I would imagine.
The loose tentacle.
Grilled up, delicious.
I know, they are good.
I don't like the suction cups, though.
I like the solid part.
I don't want to be looked at as some Yahoo over here.
It's a bit late.
I don't want to, I don't firmly believe this, but I'm just throwing out a theory is why haven't,
why isn't the space station?
Maybe they have and they're just hiding it from us,
but we've run missions out to outer space.
We have all these really expensive satellites out there,
and yet for whatever reason, these UFOs,
which are plentiful here on our planet
and declassified now, we're talking about them out in the open,
we've never really seen them outside of the Earth's atmosphere.
So why is that?
You would suggest that this is the only planet with life then because not aliens coming
from the places that they just couldn't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no distract us and have us look in space for all of the octopus aliens when really they're just living in the bottom of the ocean the whole time.
There could be several creatures in the deepest parts of the ocean that can be accustomed
to pressure that we don't know.
You're a fan of the Meg.
They just discovered a deep ocean inside of the deepest parts of the ocean.
I think somewhere off the coast of Australia, There's a whole nother ocean below the ocean.
There's so much that we don't know
because pressure doesn't allow us.
Visibility is such that it makes it impossible.
I'm just throwing it out there.
I was thinking about this.
I was not high.
Just what if everything that we're seeing
is actually from Earth itself?
You know what the deepest part of the ocean looks like?
Close your eyes.
That's what it looks like.
That's how it looks like.
So the human eye.
I feel like you're changing here, Mike.
So let me ask you a question.
If you happen to be watching, let's just say of Colts practice.
And Anthony Richardson, through like a laser of a pass.
That was picked off, but it was intercepted.
What would you think about it?
That's not hard to believe at all.
Are you trying to paint a hypothetical here?
I saw that all season long last year. And what would you think about it. That's not hard to believe at all. Are you trying to paint a hypothetical here? I saw that all season long last year.
And what would you think about it?
Well, I would say that that's who Anthony Richardson is.
You wouldn't be impressed by the interception though.
I just want to make sure you're not entirely turning into Tony.
No, I'm not.
Because right now it seems like you are.
Look, you're projecting onto me that I'm some crazy conspiracy theorist.
And this is not a theory.
Not it is not a conspiracy.
It is merely a theory and I'm just running it by you.
10-day mic.
I'm just, I'm not telling you what to think.
I'm just asking you if you'd like to.
You'd like us to think, are all the aliens
coming from our own ocean?
Like we just haven't covered that part of the ocean yet.
I went back and forth as should I run this theory
by some friends because I was worried
of what they think of me and you're just proven,
my point that I should just-
I should just-
That we're not your friends.
No, that I should have just shut my mouth
because it's just something, it's interesting.
Let me-
I didn't pick that up from anywhere,
it just came that up.
Oh my, oh.
And Cowboy Carl said.
Not even running by Cowboy Carl.
Probably should have. I think I want to defend Michael a little bit
Do you yeah? I want to defend Mike here because for the record
I don't believe in aliens, but that's from a lack of knowledge and information while they made that question mark
So now are you a believer? No because that's been disputed now. Oh the question mark
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if we assume alien life is so intelligent,
then why don't we assume that there are aliens among us right now?
Why do we assume that they're on some far off unnamed planet
when they could be walking down?
This is my guy right here.
He's asking a number on question.
It's because they see how we react when we just see something in the sky.
Like imagine how we're gonna react,
I was at Duncan yesterday.
It's also so hot right now.
Why would you want a vacation here in the summer?
See, you all are thinking of aliens as green people
with things coming out of their head.
What if aliens can morph into a human like
figure, like men in black?
Yeah, and be among us.
I think we're all looking up to the stars
and possibly maybe, just maybe.
We're looking in the wrong direction, my friends.
Hmm.
This is that slippery slope that leads to like
the Jewish reptiles run Hollywood, right?
No, what the hell are you doing, Jeremy?
No, no.
No, it's kind of what happens.
No, it's not.
It's kind of, it's kind of what happens.
It's not, no, I'm just,
I'm just gonna watch it happen. Over and happens. No, it's not. It's kind of what happens. It's not. I'm just kind of watched it happen over and over
for the last decade.
See what happens when you put yourself in that box,
10-day mic.