The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Bi-Weekly Wooing
Episode Date: March 6, 2024Today's Cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Juju, Tony, and Jess. The Crew asks if ARod is really cooking at home or is he fooking? Do you still take your significant others on 'dates', Tony and Juju ar...e trying to put the show on game. We also revisit Operation Broken Arrow, the secret surveillance that found Greg Cote leaving the toilet seat up. Plus, David Samson joins to discuss the Dartmouth Men's basketball team's vote to unionize and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast.
Not to be outdone by his father, Greg Cody.
Good work, Chris Cody.
It's start to everything going on.
Is Greg Cody not to be outdone by his father,
Wild Bill, or is Chris Cody not to be outdone
by his father, Greg?
I was getting to Chris Cody,
but when he's in charge, sometimes there are little pings
and dings in the jalopy that you hear.
And so there was just a little bit of extra music there
right at the start of the show, Chris Cody.
Such a good open.
Not to be outdone by his father,
who yesterday, I believe, produced
the most surprising opinion of the year
in the Me Too era by just aggressively defending,
leaving the toilet seat up in a unisex bathroom,
uh, a controversial stand. He stunned me yesterday because he tends to be fairly predictable.
And he, in his columns, he's never written anything that provocative. He's written at
the Miami Herald for 50 years without doing that, but not to be outdone by his father.
Chris Cody today, I think is willing to accuse
a rod of something.
I don't believe he's been accused of publicly before fake cooking.
He's accusing.
He's accusing a rod of fake cooking.
A rod is in his kitchen in Minnesota.
One would assume and he is wearing wolves gear and a
wolves, a wolves hat. There's not a chance in hell he lives in Minnesota. There's not
a chance of hell he had to outfit on.
Hey, it's a wolf scully. I guess is what that would be called. It wouldn't be a hat.
Yes, Chris. I just love this video. It's like a night at home. He's trying to paint the
picture of I'm a normal person and it's my night to cook. And he, and he describes this.
I think he talks about a steak, a side side dish but all you see in the video is him
moving a bunch of lettuce from one bowl to a plate there's no sign of any steak
I want to watch this and I want to dissect this because he's trying to
paint the picture that it's his night you're accusing him of fake cooking
you're saying you're not saying it you haven't said it yet. You say you're just saying, but you haven't said it.
I said fucking, I mean.
Are you accusing me?
What can I say?
Are you publicly, are you publicly,
you're saying it the way Connor McGregor does.
I'm saying I would have liked to seen
a little steak somewhere,
because he references a steak and I don't see a steak anywhere.
Let's play this video for the folks.
All right, so it's my turn to cook tonight.
I'm a great cook. I'm gonna see a steak anywhere. Let's play this video for the folks. All right. So it was my turn to cook tonight. I'm a great cook.
I'm going to have a little seed of salad,
a little season here and then you bring it back.
Yeah.
There's some veggies, some platinum.
Some platinum.
That's it. That's it. He shows coffee there.
So he just moves lettuce. He transferred lettuce
into a pan for some reason. Into a pan that you would cook on the stove with.
It is absolutely fake cooking. Is Jessica the only one among us here who knows anything about cooking?
Chris, your father should cook. Wow. What are you doing?
It was a fair question. I mean she bakes she brings in big good baking is different than cooking no
No, if you like to bake you like to cook I haven't ate out since the Obama administration big brother
I cook every meal meal prep. You got it. You know trying to watch my figure big brother, but I
Can bake I can't cook I'm a great baker
You're a woman. I can bake, I can't cook.
I'm a great baker.
You can bake?
I bake.
I'll keep baking every day.
You get baked every day.
Different story.
I'm great at it.
Put it on the pole, please, at LeBatard Show.
If you know how to bake, do you know how to cook?
Because I assume, I assume if you're doing one, you're doing the other.
And when you say you're a good baker, I'm guessing all you know how to do is take some
cookies out of the freezer and throw them in the oven.
The fridge.
Yes.
Okay, yes, you don't know.
Put them on a pan.
But you don't know how to mix ingredients
in a bowl and create cookies.
No.
But that doesn't make you.
How you've got too far.
That doesn't make you a good baker.
Well, baking is harder than cooking, number one.
Like, baking is by far harder,
because baking is a lot easier to mess up than cooking.
Cooking, you can always add extra spices
and kind of make up for your mistakes
where baking you can't.
Like no one actually knows how to bake.
Everyone's just following recipes, right?
Right, cooking is like a blank canvas.
Like I can change that.
Whereas baking, you need to have like this exact stuff,
exact ingredients, a little often it tastes totally different.
But Billy, what are you saying?
That a baker doesn't know how to bake without a book of ingredients?
I'm gonna tell you what I just told Jessica. I don't know what I just said today. Like I'm out of it. I'm sick. I was gonna call out.
I have muesnecks in my system. I was just talking.
Well yesterday I saw you distracted the entire show by putting pills and medicines behind you.
I was told you were gone for a segment because you were at CVS. What's going on with you?
Oh, I made it so quick.
I went over to CVS.
There's a CVS apparently two blocks from,
also a Ross.
You guys know there's a Ross right down the street from you?
Do you need pills?
Absolutely.
Oh, by the way, Tony is Neo from The Matrix.
Although Jessica accurately said
that if we had a third show in Vegas,
that's probably the outfit that he would have worn.
I'm the one, Dano.
And if you need pills, I got you.
Just let me know.
He does have pills. Got a good one. Got a good one. Just let me know. I got a good little red ones. Yeah.
Yeah. It looks like David Samson's like candy bag. The red demons.
Hey, you know,
I'll be wrong with my boy. My boy. We eat the whole bag of candy a day. A zip of candy.
No one talks about that's why he's so weird. Too much candy.
All right
Well Jimmy Butler did an interview yesterday where he said he was having 10 to 12 cups of coffee a day our record holder around here is
Ed Orzran on sugar where he said he had 10 to 12 energy drinks a day and we all assume those are the big monster cans
Those are not small red bulls
Yolkich has them both beat because he used to have
a gallon of Coca-Cola.
That's nothing.
Wow.
What do you mean that's nothing?
Child's, that's why you're sick.
Coke-itch.
A gallon of-
That's what Mike Ryan has.
A gallon of Coca-Cola is something that you say is nothing.
That's the worst of those three things I just described.
The Coke-er. Juju, I assume that when you're cooking you say is nothing, that's the worst of those three things I just described. The cocker.
Did you, I assume that when you're cooking, uh,
that you're just aggressively, uh, proteins and baked potatoes.
Absolutely not. I'm delicate with it. Big brother, like, brother, ask my baby out there. I see my baby.
She know I cook like none other. Like, you know what I mean?
I'm, I'm, I'm actually a chef boy, you're D as they say. What's the go-to like if you're really trying to impress her though
Like if we're doing something trying to a nice meal for you and the lady first off
I'm gonna cook some wings just for you to eat on while I while I finish
Now I'm gonna get the pasta in the fettucciney going
I don't know how long it's gonna take cuz like you say when you cook it and you're boiling
Sometimes you be a little too high.
You forgot how much was it was.
Only last time.
My mouth is watering.
You did me.
And then you put that chicken in the oven.
Oh my goodness.
Come to the little oven.
She says, as Willy Wonka say,
salute the slug worth.
And then put it out.
That's how it happens.
All right, you know what?
I owe Juju an apology here because
Juju can be understated.
He will not.
I don't.
That's a funny thing to say, but Juju, when
he's not boastful until you've assessed him poorly.
And I because if anyone else in this room
had won their last two, three team parlays.
Three, three in a row, big brother.
I won last night for three, oh five.
Hey, come on now.
Real fast.
Stand up.
Oh man.
He wouldn't volunteer that, but once you just like worth, once you bring it up with it.
I mean, if anyone here, if anyone here, I didn't realize you'd won three in a row.
So you're nine and oh, with your last nine picks.
Yesterday, he hits it on the butler three
at the end of that game.
At the end of the game, 13 seconds left.
He's got over a half a three pointer from Jimmy Butler
and that's where the Parley cash is.
If any one of you had won that much,
we wouldn't stop hearing about it.
Yeah.
You gotta win with grace, you know what I mean?
Because I have a lot of losses this year as well.
And I salute all my brothers and sisters
that remind me of that.
So I'm winning with grace, you did me.
Juju, 9-0, okay.
9-0 and cashing three straight three-team parlays
is the greatest gambling run this show has had.
It's not saying much.
I mean, hey, and guess what?
We'll see you tomorrow for Thursday Thunder.
You got to know Draft Kings, we love you.
I started in NFL season O and 16.
I think it was worse than that actually.
I think you're underselling it.
The hell of a run.
I think it was O and 19.
But I see, let's get this Gus Johnson sound
from the weekend, from the Iowa game, because Gus
Johnson, this is as normalized as I've ever heard gambling talked about on the air, Stugatz.
You know, how Michael's is still is playing and pretending in the shadows that gambling is this
dirty thing when so many of the people watching these games the reason they're watching is because their money is running up and down the court in a different uniform
uh... but i i don't believe i've ever heard on a national mainstream
broadcast you correct me if you think i'm wrong
this much
extended time talk about gambling. starts very fast and very slow. You can win $1,600 on a $100 bet. If you think she'll
score 18 in the first quarter and you can win $4,000, that's why $4,000 on a $100 bet.
If you think she won't get it, that's it. The fourth pull. She can actually, actually,
want to take it.
Please normalize that.
A lot of details.
Not the terrible audio.
That we've normalized around here.
Please normalize talking about gambling that way instead of this shadowy dirty
things to God's the walls have caved in on all of this in a way that made me
stunned to be in Vegas and see the conservative NFL celebrating all of this in a way that made me stunned to be in Vegas and see the conservative NFL
celebrating all of that while not allowing any of the players to play a slot machine
while they're in the players in the game.
I know, but I'm saying there's a line, Dan. Come on.
There's a game to focus on integrity. Respect the game, Dan.
That's right. Because because if Travis Kelsey gets three cherries on the slot machine,
just a bad visual.
You can't have Creed Humphreys like at 3am slot machine.
You can't do it. Dan, you know what?
Three cherries in the slot machine could lead to in Vegas.
I really don't think slot machines even do that anymore. The three cherries.
I think that's a, that's a 1980s.
They've gotten worse. Like I give me that.
I don't like slot machines because I don't know if I'm winning.
Like, you know what I mean?
Back in my day, it would be three cherries in a row.
Boom, easy win.
Nowadays, it's like, I just have to look at the bottom
because it's like a bunch of good things pop up
and I'm like, this has to be good and it's nothing.
His father's son, Dano.
I don't like the digital.
Like you can pull down the shaft and then you have it go like
this. Yeah.
Love pulling this right.
Yeah.
Wow.
No, he's right.
Thank you.
It's just something satisfying about it. You want to press a button.
You see there's people like that are super into it. They like smack the screen for like
good luck.
Right.
It's crazy out here.
They time slot machines. They do. Like if your slot machine is a winning slot machine,
like people time it out the next time it's going to win. They did their professionals.
You know who's really good at slot machines? Michael X wife. She is really, she won like
thousands of dollars on the slot. She always plays the slots.
I don't think it's possible to be really good at the slot.
She's got to be lucky. I'm telling you. No, that's the heat.
That's the way the heat were built.
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Don lebatard. It's been a
Lovely cruise
Oh, man, that's my out outro. That's uh, you know as my casket is being lowered Jesus
You know I'll have been cremated a week before but we'll do the casket thing just for show and as my casket is being lowered, Jesus. You know, I'll have been cremated a week before,
but we'll do the casket thing just for show.
And as my casket is being lowered.
Wait a minute.
Well, we will.
Empty casket?
Yeah, it'll close.
You know, just for show.
Well, what's the redundancy there?
You know, I mean, we're gonna put on a public display.
Yeah, naturally.
Stugatz, what do you do with the ashes?
You're going on a lovely cruise.
Exactly.
Maybe we'll throw them over, my wife will throw them overboard.
I would assume...
And she's necking with her new husband.
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I'm watching this show called Deal or No Deal Island
and a lot of the contestants,
a lot of the contestants are coming on
and they're saying, I studied Deal or No Deal.
I know exactly, I'm a good player on Deal or No Deal.
I watch this, I'm really good, I've studied it.
It's like, no.
There's no amount of studying that you,
just because you used to be a case girl
on Dealer No Deal 20 years ago,
doesn't give you an advantage for Dealer No Deal.
You randomly are picking a case.
You don't know anything more than anyone else
because you've watched it more than anyone else.
Salute to the case girls.
Was it Meghan Markle on that show?
She was.
What?
Launched careers, yeah.
Before she was a princess or...
Before she was on suits.
Whatever it is that she is now.
Billy, have you played the dealer no deal game?
Electric, at Dave and Buster's?
At Dave and Buster's, I have a store for this.
Okay, so my wife and I are on a date
and we're playing the game.
What?
Thank you.
So we're playing the game, right?
We're the last ones there.
I'm working.
Boom, boom, boom.
All right, 15, no, there. I'm working boom boom boom alright 15. No, okay
K16 is a hundred bucks. We get down to two cases ladies and gentlemen the million dollar case is still available
I click case 17 it opens up. It's five bucks all of a sudden the entire power shuts off and David Buster's I
Had the million dollar case day and I was looking at it
It was about to open and give me like a thousand tickets. Guess what?
I think since we were the last people at Dave and Buster's workers were looking over and being like I think he's gonna do it
Turns it off in the middle of me opening it. Oh, so to bring it back Dan slot machines are not a skill thing
Probably not and the NFL now doesn't let people gamble. So we're back to football
and the NFL now doesn't let people gamble. So we're back to football.
You're unhelpful, fascinating to Tony to undercut him.
Was that a good story?
If we're gonna be honest, was that a good story?
If you're with your wife, is it a date?
For me, you don't go on a date with your wife.
It's just a night out.
Like you go on a date.
I got bad news for you buddy.
Carefully here.
I'll be dating a caribou.
Someone else's wife.
No, I'm saying just terminology here. I know you go out
With your spout like with your wife right in the movie
I'm just saying I only call it a date if it's someone I'm like trying to court Chris
I got something for you then well, since you think that way go home tonight and ask your wife
Can I take you on a date Saturday and see what happened big brother?
We're trying to give you for free Can I take you on a date Saturday and see what happened be a brother? For free
Yeah, I just it's a semantics thing
But I just for me it's like when you're when you're when you're not married with you
Let's go out on a date. You're on a permanent date when you're married, right?
It's just a night out like I'm with like hey, would you like to go out on Friday? I think Dan and Valerie go on dates
Hmm. Do you date dance? Absolutely? Yes. See I go on dates with my wife to buy your definition
I just never say let's go on a date, honey because we're married
I'm just like I want to go out Friday like what are we doing Friday?
I'm telling you I'm with you like it might get her if I'm like stop might it's not my it's not mine
It's not it's not trying to give you free games. I go out on dates with my wife. All like you guys
Call it a date and I don't do this. Call it a date and I see what happens.
The line is kids once you have kids you don't go on dates anymore. That's what I'm saying.
You just get away from the kids. Can we get a babysitter is what I'm saying. What are you saying about date night?
Why do you have to call a date night? Because it
Raises the level. What you don't get is when you go out for dinner everybody goes out to dinner you go out to dinner every night
That's not the point when you make it a date night and you throw on a little something special gets her feeling a little special
Come on man. He's convinced me. I'm not fighting. There is no doubt that what he is saying is accurate that you
Putting forth a single syllable of care toward honey. I thought about tonight
Oh, you want me to call my wife my dates are amazing because i don't call him dates don't don't say i'm not my
wife is what i don't fare chris i'm not saying you don't go out with your wife
and that your breath doesn't smell like beer the entire time beer and tortilla
vodka
uh... a day chris what i am saying to you is
haha if you let your wife know that you have placed a modicum
of care on tonight, I'm trying to do something special, which is what all you got to give
her is the syllable of a date.
That's the effort you have to make.
And you're, Jojo and Tony are nodding here and you're looking at me like I've got this
wrong.
You don't get it, Dan.
Kids change things. I'm telling you right now.
Once you have kids, you just try to find excuses to get away.
I just wait until Sunday, I mean.
Well, you, look at you.
You deteriorate all week.
You can see it on his face.
He shaves less and less.
It doesn't have to be called a date to woo.
I woo, okay?
Do you?
My wife is wooed biweekly, I'd say.
How do you woo your wife?
I don't know about this.
Really?
I mean, she is smitten.
Is that the right house, how I say it?
Smitten? Yes, woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo I Take her out we go to nice things I put on a nice shirt. I don't wear a hat
Just don't call it a date
Just talking about the semantics here. I woo her just we had one time Chris. I will just do it once
You want to call her right now and be like hey you want to go on a date? Yeah?
Yeah, you should I would try it can you record it
It doesn't usually go well
Put it on the pole, please do do at LeBatard show does Chris look to you like he woos by weakly
Did any of you growing up I feel like this is either a Chris or a Tony thing.
How many of you do that, like, not the Cologne, like you put pheromones on you to like, I
track the person?
Yeah.
You haven't seen that?
No, that was not me, Billy.
I feel like you guys got into that.
Back in the day, I would do the Cologne, one spritz on the neck, one on the wrist, rub
the wrists.
That was the play back in the day.
Why is that?
Like, who's going around smelling wrists?
I don't know, it was just what I,
I didn't make it up.
Like that's a thing, right?
No, no, it is.
It's a thing.
No, that's a thing.
Why is that?
How do you know?
It was a good question by Jess.
How do I woo now?
I just,
He puts his hat off.
Oh, it's his aunt.
To get a babysitter.
I've seen him with his hat off.
There's a reason he wears a hat all the time.
Like I'm just,
Dan.
I woo in my way.
I don't need to, I'm not going to take a quiz.
Right.
Oh my God.
His father's son.
He is his father's son.
Put it on the pole, please, Juju, at LeBatard show.
Have you ever doused yourself in pheromones?
He woos by putting the seat down for his wife, I think.
Honestly, getting a babysitter, that's how you woo these days.
Uh, Jessica, I'm gonna play this sound yesterday from, uh, Greg Cody, his, uh, son's, this son's father, uh, because this, I'm telling you, Sturgat,
when people make the fair accusations and criticisms of our show, they all think the same.
There's no diversity of thought.
I bring you this fossil.
A man from the past aggressively arguing in a way that scares us when we get near the
Me Too stuff and he is out here with his dinosaur bones saying, I'm going to do it my way. And
he turned it into flattery for women. He turned it into an act of care and
And a support and belief in women. It was a great move. It was unbelievable
He really turned the tables on us. We illegally caught him in an investigation. We were surveilling him
We saw that he put the toilet seat up and he left it up and when we accused him of it of air on air
He was not bashful at all and he stunned me
And when we accused him of it of air on air he was not bashful at all and he stunned me
Okay, sometimes I do leave the seat up and I do it without apology. Wow, okay? What I have high respect for females. I married a woman. I love
Okay, they are perfectly capable
I'm not their man servant they don't need me to do their work for You're perfectly capable of putting the seat down. What do you mean? Are you kidding?
I'm not their manservant.
They don't need me to do their work for them.
Oh, my God.
They lay.
Put your seat down.
Put the seat down if you don't want to.
I respect women.
Yeah.
He's married to one.
Just saying.
I don't think I need to.
A woman is perfectly capable of deciding whether she wants the seat up or down.
She wants it down. And you know what else is easy to do? For she wants to seat up or down. She wants it down And you know what else is easy to do for the woman to put the seat down?
Oh, that's also what is extremely easy to do and you know what I have such high regard for women
I believe they're perfectly capable
Okay, put it on the pole
as well. We framed it as hard to have a rebuttal for this.
And Levitt's hard show.
This is a rival major.
Sorry.
Okay, well.
There's got a point.
What's wrong with that?
Preaching.
Every day they give me a list of things that I could use for he's that guy or you don't
get the show.
But I'm not going to give this that you don't get the show because it's fair criticism
that I was just reminded of when I heard that audio again for the first time and remembered
something that I did not toward the end.
And this person writes in, remember when the show used to rail against the zippy in the
juice format and claim we are not that. I'm pretty sure nonstop whoopee cushion fart noises
and toilet seat bits is sort of that.
It's the fairest criticism we've ever received.
I had somewhat fun though.
You did.
I don't have a fair criticism sounder.
Let's find one.
Can we find, can we get,
we have Yeti working all hours
of day and night.
In fact, get the wrong song for me
because I've got to apologize for something
that I got wrong yesterday.
And this is, I wanna do a daily Dan Got It Wrong segment,
but this one's more moral than anything.
You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Wrong.
I feel bad about what we did to Russell Wilson yesterday
by asking Pablo Torre, like college roommate questions.
I had a blind spot about that and when it happened,
I'm like, ah, why'd we do that?
And I blew it.
You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
And so.
Salute to you, brother.
That's accountability because I felt,
when they were saying it, I was like, ugh.
Yeah, no, I shouldn't have done it. I think, we were live, we were live, right? was like yeah yeah I was I shouldn't have done it I think we're live we were live right yeah and so I shouldn't
have done it and yeah and it's my bet but salute the Pablo and salute the Nate Tice
I got y'all back if y'all need me to fight.
He really gets it from his groin like it's's very loining. That's where he loves the show.
You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Yeah, he loves this show from down there,
from his nether regions.
Also, Greg Cody on his take about the bathroom break
yesterday, baby.
Baby.
You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Jessica was wholly unsurprised when
she said that Operation Broken Arrow had resulted in
Greg Cody being the first culprit.
There was nothing surprising about that.
If you had said, guess who's been leaving the seat up and if you're wrong, we will kill
you, I would have said Greg Cody.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Seat up for your life, huh?
Seat up for your life.
It's Greg Cody.
However, the curious thing is, I usually am not here the same days as Greg,
and the seat has been up most of the times
that I've been here.
So there is more than one thing.
Every time I walk in and they're up.
But it's fairly obvious that the main perpetrator is Greg.
You know that the cleaning crew comes in,
cleans it, and then leaves it up, right?
That's not what we're talking about.
We're not talking about first thing in the morning, Tony.
But when Dan walks in, the seats are up because the cleaning crew had just finished cleaning.
When I walk out, they're up.
So Tony's the second person that I would guess.
That's never been solidified,
that there's no surveillance footage,
there's nothing on that.
Look at here, Leo.
You make yourself feel guilty as hell.
Yeah, just don't.
The cleaning crew, don't bring them into this.
That was a no-no, brother.
I love you.
What?
Eek it up.
And it's clean.
Imagine that.
Leaving it up is clean.
What?
Am I wrong?
No, and I'm Jessica's non-audio eye roll was comedically funny.
Hey, I just got us a new Coca-Cola spice.
Nice.
What's it taste like?
It's like barefoot water skiing while dolphins click with gleam.
Well, let me try.
Nah, it's like a gliding on a gondola through waving waters is a mermaid thing.
Nah, it's like Coca-Cola with a refreshing burst of raspberry and spiced flavors.
Yeah.
Try new Coca-Cola spiced today.
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Don Libertard.
You gotta know I'm a big Colombo guy.
Salute to that boy.
Okay, I don't think that's proof.
I don't think that's proof.
I think that's a lie.
I don't think that's evidence lie. I don't think that's it. I don't think that is evidence.
Salute to that boy. It suggests camouflage. It suggests that Juju has no idea what we're
talking about. And now it's just Googling it. Still gots. I'm not Googling it. My grandma
must stay in the country. I watch the Braves. I watched Colombo. I watched Matlock. I watched Andy Griffin
Back to used to this is the don't let but our show with the still guys
David Samson, I've told you has one of the most unique sports podcasts that there
are.
There are a lot of people in this space doing this now.
Too many people.
Way, way too many people.
You've got way too many options.
But what David Sampson is doing as a lone voice on his program covering the stuff that
he's covering every day. It's got a degree
of difficulty that a lot of people are not doing in this space. So nothing personal.
I urge you to check it out again because the sports business stuff is good, but that is
not all of the stuff he's doing. He is being very thorough in how it is that he approaches
that daily show. And this weekend, he's had some trouble sort of fitting in
in the Metal Arc universe.
And this weekend, he's got a party.
Is it here, David?
You're doing it here at these studios, right?
On Sunday?
Yeah, mom, my way to Florida.
We're doing nothing personal live from your studio Friday.
And then on Sunday, we're doing a seven hour Oscar party
where we will be live streaming with Adnan Verk
and Ben Lyons, both the bread carpet,
and then watch party through the Oscars.
And you're coming, as well as so many of the other people.
Well, I was told this, my wife said that I was coming,
and it was news to me.
I did not know that I was coming, but it is Sunday.
And one of the things that they're doing, Stugatz,
because I don't think that you'll probably be here.
La Crosse, Mitzvah.
David and Adnan care deeply about the Oscars.
Ridiculously, I would say.
It's a bit embarrassing, I would say,
that we're doing it at the studio
and not with them on the actual red carpet,
because they would like to be there doing that show there.
But they're gonna take great care
for seven hours on Sunday.
He said, bray at carpet, not a ray at carpet.
Oh wow, that sounds amazing.
Is it gluten free?
It's a fine.
We got turned down.
We tried to do it from Hollywood
and Skipper, you and Bimmel actually said no,
do it from the stained carpet at the Elser.
So we're calling it live from the stained carpet.
I mean, the carpet's new.
It is not stained.
No stains. It's an awesome carpet.
There's nothing wrong with the carpet in here.
And it's, but it's not the red carpet.
And you keep doing this to me
and it's starting to get annoying publicly and privately.
You said, I said no.
I didn't say no to anything your company man
Dan when I send you an email asking to do something and you don't respond. That's the same as saying no
It's worse I mean damn damn damn
It is not no I did not say no you cannot go to the Oscars
I mean that choice never came across It is not no, I did not say no, you cannot go to the Oscars.
That choice never came across anything
that resembles my life.
No, I didn't say yes.
No, but I just, I haven't seen the email.
My life's been very busy lately.
Things are complicated.
The absence of a direct yes is a no.
I'm still thinking about the bread carpet.
Okay, regardless, there's some stuff. I want
to do some stuff. I want to talk about in sports, do guys. But I saw a tepid response
when I, when I saw in the Slack, Hey everybody, Oscar party on Sunday, everybody here was
invited and I didn't see any responses. Oh, I think a lot of people are coming and everyone's
dressing up. I've got my tux ready. My girlfriend's coming in a full Oscar gown, so everyone's coming
dressed up.
We were told that Metal Arc is doing this great catering.
It'll be just like Wolfgang Puck.
So I believe that we are all in as a company for this Oscar party.
Two things, David.
There has been some internal,
I guess, dissent about the dress-up aspect.
A lot of people don't wanna dress up
and don't wanna come if they have to dress up,
so we need clarification there.
Second thing, someone is coming who is dressing up
and it's Willow, so just giving you a heads up
that cute bone in a bow tie.
I am, if you will bring Willow in a bow tie,
then I will love Willow that day.
But without that bow tie, keep it away from me.
No, not invited.
And does that mean that Willow won't shed or bite me
if he has a bow tie?
She will do both.
Sorry.
Fine.
I mean, why would you think a Willow is a boy?
Why would you think that?
This is getting more dangerous.
So the answer to dressing up is that dress however you want.
But in Oscar party, there are people
who are cool who can come and sweats in a hat.
But you can also respect the process
and come in this amazing gown, totally up to you.
Rent the runways a great sort of thing
that you can do,
that I can do for tuxes, et cetera.
So I would say it's totally up to you,
not mandatory in any way.
But are we expecting to do a live show now?
Because once you invite everyone here,
then it's a seven hour live stream with the show.
So it's a show that Adnan, Ben Lyons, and I
are going to be running and producing,
so you do not have any heavy lifting to do.
You can eat, watch the Oscars participate
in the gambling aspect of it,
because we're gonna be filling out brackets
and having competitions and prizes.
So there's a whole lot that'll be going on,
but don't act as though you're getting overtime for this.
Well, please, we don't get overtime for anything, David.
If you were part of a union, you could get overtime.
Great segue.
Great segue because, Stu, I don't know if you saw this yesterday,
but Dartmouth's Ben's basketball team is unionizing.
And I wonder if that is as big a story as it seems like it would be.
A couple of years ago, Northwestern football talked about this at one time.
Like 10 years ago.
Yeah, and I thought at that time,
it was a seismic undertaking that would cause what we've since seen.
I thought 10 years ago when Northwestern unionized that it would do that,
but that fell apart.
Is this gonna fall apart?
What's the meaning of this?
So let's say it the right way.
It's not that the men's basketball team voted to unionize.
The actual vote was 13 to two to join an existing union
because the NLRB gave them the right to be classified
as employees who could then vote
whether they want to join a union.
And this current set of 15 guys said, yes,
we wanna join an existing union right now
on the campus of Dartmouth
because we wanna get overtime pay,
we wanna get better healthcare benefits
when we're rehabbing from injuries,
we want better living conditions,
all sorts of things that in theory accrue
to the benefit of union members.
But we are so far from there
and that's what's being misreported.
A, they didn't unionize.
B, it's just in the process now, they haven't even heard the appeals because Dartmouth University
as well as all other universities around this country do not want their athletes to be known
as employees because that creates a whole set of issues
that involve, in my opinion, the disappearance
of myriad sports and opportunities
for kids around this country to play sports
that aren't big time sports,
because universities will not want them
to be considered employees.
Dartmouth has been very vocally against this,
like David said.
So they're going to appeal
and it will probably go to the National Labor Relations Board
because what the group,
the National Labor Relations Regional Office
is what allowed them to unionize,
which is sort of the same step that Northwestern
achieved back in, I think it was 2014.
So right now, like David said, there's still a lot
that's probably gonna play out in the court system.
But what's interesting is that the players have come out and said basically like they
really want health insurance.
They really want the rights that the other employees on campus have by being part of
the service employees international union local, which is the other group that represents
employees on the Dartmouth campus.
And so there is a bit of a question of what differentiates Dartmouth men's basketball players
from other school employees?
Do they do work that the school can control
how and when they work?
And the answer is probably yes.
So where does that line lie?
And I think there's also a lot of legal questions
still up in the air because Dartmouth
is a private university and a lot of the big universities
in this country in terms of like big football programs or public universities, would they
have to unionize with their private entity conferences that represent them because the
schools themselves probably like because of the legal distinction there couldn't do that.
So there's still like a lot up in the air, but I think that it's really interesting and
also super important to recognize that as recently as a couple summers ago, the Supreme Court sided with athletes in terms
of compensation, sided against the NCAA because of the model of amateurism is just so outdated
at this point because schools are making millions, if not billions of dollars off of these television
rights deals, which wasn't the case 30 years ago.
I just can't believe, David, what's happening because I thought all of this was going to come crumbling down
in 10 years ago.
And what's happened is during the pandemic,
it all fell apart.
But please correct me if I'm wrong.
Is this story being covered correctly?
Because it would seem to appear to be
among the biggest stories that could be going on
right now in sports. It is the could be going on right now in sports.
It is the biggest story going on right now in sports. However, it's just a little premature,
which gives people an excuse not to cover correctly or go into the level of detail that
Jessica just gave you, all of which was right. I want to clarify one little thing about public
first private. What's going on with Dartmouth, this will only relate to private universities.
There's a separate suit going on now with USC and their players, and that could open the door
for all public university athletes to be considered employees, but it's separate tracks.
And this only gets to the courts after the National Labor Relations Board deals with this
on the national scale, and that still has to happen. And keep in mind, the presidential election is happening.
And if it switches hands and it goes red instead of blue, you can change out the entire NLRB,
and they can completely overrule this, and it wouldn't even get a chance to go to the courts.
So we're about in the second inning,
but if this gets to the ninth inning
and all athletes, public and private,
not just the Ivy League because that's so one off,
but if public and private athletes are considered employees,
I guarantee you it will change the sports that are offered
and how these athletes end up not able
to play what they wanna play.
I don't doubt that the universities would use it
as an excuse to cut programs that they wanna cut
because there's already a monetary imbalance
at these schools and I don't-
Exactly.
I don't, yeah, that wouldn't shock me in the slightest.
But yeah, to your point, the election is gonna be
incredibly important because the current head of the NLRB, who was appointed by Joe Biden, is very friendly
to the idea of NCAA athletes being considered employees. And I don't, you know, I think
it's pretty safe to say if Trump reappointed a new head of the NLRB, they would be very
anti-labor.
Yes. I think that we're going to have to wait to see. And the fact is, these appeals take
so long that this will not happen until after
The November elections and after January when either Biden takes over or Trump takes over so it's gonna be fascinating to watch
But rest assured every single university president is paying attention to what happened in Dartmouth
And it's just funny for me to think of these 15 Dartmouth players voting
13 to 2 in favor
of joining this union and that being the impetus for what this discussion is, when in fact it was
originally them asking for the right to vote to join the union. That was the big story and we
just chose to ignore it back then. All right, we got a lot of other things to talk about. So stay
there, Samson, because we've got an assortment of follow-up questions for you.