The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Dan Blew The Joke

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

After last night's Heat collapse against the Brooklyn Nets, Mike Ryan is being driven mad. Amin Elhassan is here to begin our analysis before Mike and Jeremy get into it over Miami's roster and perfor...mance as Dan asks Tony and Chris about the different kinds of Heat fandom. Then, the crew discuss Chris Cote's upcoming trip to Germany to cover the Miami Dolphins. Plus, we take a look back at the foot in Chris Cote's bathroom stall and begin to eulogize Bobby Knight in the best way we can. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertor Show with this two-guts podcast. Mike Ryan cares about the heat again. He cares just enough to be made insane by Josh Richards. And I mean, Al Hassen's got to step out for a second because he's got to do oddball. It's on every day except Monday. Draft King's network, Charlotte Wilder.
Starting point is 00:00:34 It's exploding. It's very popular. It's found its footing. It's found its voice. And now basketball season is here. So we've got to get as much out of a meme about the heat before he goes. But Mike, I'm generally
Starting point is 00:00:46 worried about a means temperament. He just told me that the only reason he called Drew Holiday at Corpse is because we called him. He was in the back of the car with his son. He was mad. He was mad at Billy. He's mad at everybody. And he's tired and delirious because this company is running him into the ground.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And I just pointed to him and said, Hey, I know to do all the book and you come in here we've got a legitimate heat panic on her hands legitimate heat panic panic thank you christ now it it's uh... last night was bad that's a bad loss that's a bad loss because they were up fifteen in the middle of the second half because that net's team
Starting point is 00:01:22 hasn't figured life out yet because that net team was missing many of its better players. And perhaps most importantly, because that net's team doesn't really have a guy other than Cam Thomas who can beat anybody off the dribble, but somehow the Miami Heat decided to over-help on every dribble penetration except off of Ben Simmons. They stayed home on Ben Simmons like White on Rice. What is that? What is that all about?
Starting point is 00:01:48 I have no idea. I might. We know it's supposed good at coaching. Like what is that? I think the players are just not executing well because I'm saying I don't mean to, I don't come on man. Late in that game, that game was there for the winning. And they got a couple of different stops because the nets didn't look right.
Starting point is 00:02:05 But you're a front office expert and every GM survey now says, Spowe is the best at every. Why are you sitting here telling me that they're staying to Ben Simmons when all of us who've been watching basketball for three years would tell you, last four minutes of the game, go ahead. If he beats you, you've got no problems. Cover everybody else. It's not even, yes, not even, I'm not saying that was a tactical decision. I'm just telling you what happened last night. When they were helping, they were helping off everybody else other than Simmons. Simmons, who during that game at times looked worried about having the ball in his hands around the basket. This is not something we've ever said about somebody and been right on Simmons.
Starting point is 00:02:47 And you're telling me the end of the game. They're now one in four. They've lost all three of their road games that is not unexpected, but their players played last night. And Juan Wick and Richardson are two for 18. And Mike Ryan is taunting me by tax because they think they're deeper this year and I have to lend them the benefit of the doubt. I mean if they tell me so and so and so and so are better than gave Vincent and Max Struse if they think that's going to
Starting point is 00:03:17 be deeper I can't refute it based on like college scouting. I've seen the other two guys play well in the system, and now at the start of Josh Richardson's second career and Juan Wicks first, they shit the bed last. Yeah, they're in deeper shit. I mean, I think some of it you gotta get a time, right? Some of it you just gotta get like, for a hockey. They insert two and five last year. And but like
Starting point is 00:03:46 specifically to those guys, hot guys, like you gotta get them time. This is this is his first time at the rodeo. He's gonna have to go through some growing pain. He's like a year younger than Tyler. The idea, I get it, but like he's got he's a five years younger in NBA age. I'm important part of what Josh What's Josh Richardson's excuse? Might be a little too old in that case. Just, I will never forgive them.
Starting point is 00:04:10 For bringing Josh Richardson back into my life. I thought this chapter in my life was over. Here's my thing about Josh. I thought like last night he struggled for sure, but that last shot. I was like, I'm okay with you struggling You take open shots and make them you got got to the rim kind of flood them lay up, but whatever that's cool But man to come down with time on the clock and to put up a contested three like this is your big call to moment
Starting point is 00:04:36 I mean that one was that one was like come on. I will say this Mike Ryan in the history of his fandom, okay? Ryan in the history of his fandom, okay, has not been more exasperated by the late game judgment of any player in the history of sports in this market, more than Josh Richardson. I cannot think of somebody else that he trusts less. He is furious with Pat Riley for doing this all over again, and I'll ask you as the expert though. If I tell you, going on the last five years, Max Struse hasn't played, and we don't know what it is they make of players.
Starting point is 00:05:15 If the heat believe Josh Richardson can replace or be better than Max Struse, or if they think they're getting that from somebody other than Mac Struz. That's not the math at all. That's not why. Right?
Starting point is 00:05:30 Jamie, you want to jump in? They view Josh Richardson as a good perimeter defender who obviously it can handle the ball. He's not going to be their primary point guard, but he's another player that's a versatile three and D guy quote unquote and can handle the ball a little bit. But the math that they're doing on their rotation when you add Heywood high Smith who looked good last night when Caleb Martin comes back when Kevin love is there likely those
Starting point is 00:05:54 hawkes and Richardson minutes that you saw last night. Going forward, they're probably not a huge part of the rotation. You might get 10 Josh Richardson minutes and night, but it is not as simple as what we have seen so far from this team. And the struggles matter. They're talking about it like they matter. But to be able to look at this team and act like it's a complete product after five games would be disingenuous. Chris Cody help me out. What are you guys laughing about? Midway through that. Looks like I can't listen to this.
Starting point is 00:06:25 He took his headphones off, but he's in the same room with them. So I'm like, my hero, I still hear him though. Yeah, and then he covered his ears. He does not believe, cannot believe that he's being haunted by the same judgment, latent games in a game with it. When you're losing to the nets who are broken at home and all you've done this season is beat the pistons by one at home. At least the Celtics don't look great.
Starting point is 00:06:46 That's the other thing. The Celtics score 75 in the first half last night. I'm like, holy shit, that into 80 in the second half. 55 points. It's a fifth one. Hey, all right. Miami, he got penicillin coming their way to be here to be a wow. By the way, the worst team in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:07:02 As I said, last night, I was like, that's a bad loss, but all right, but you can't lose on Friday. You can't lose to those clients. As disastrous as I think this season's going to end up come June. And as locked in as I am, he might come June. He threw it on the ring and run away.
Starting point is 00:07:18 As locked in as I am on that under 46 and a half, there is like zero doubt in my mind. They're winning the NBA's in season tournament. Is Friday a must win? That would mean just right. Well, it's in season tournament. You better win it. But this is the round robins stage. Yeah, you can't lose, but yes, you can't lose the wizard. It's a must win because it's a win. If you're taking home that hard way, this is an early must win. Did you see what they did? Oh, the wizard. They're great. No, this is it is so wonderful in the NBA to see a team. It's just like, ah, believe it.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Hey, like, what are you doing? Game four. Just whatever. Game four. We'll be a traveling band of nine wins this season and Jordan Poole's gonna put up the occasional 39. I wanna say something really quick. You know, a lot of times when things happen in the NBA,
Starting point is 00:08:04 we, the public say, oh, this guy is such and such, and then these people always come out and say, you guys don't know the full story. Actually, this guy's awesome. Actually, you guys don't understand. Just wait until he gets something in the different situation, then you'll see what happened. And then they get in that situation and you're like,
Starting point is 00:08:21 nope, he's exactly what we thought he was. Jordan Poole is exactly who we thought he was when they won a championship like I don't like him, but you know, whatever he had some good games. Last year he was really bad, but it was a ghost because of the punch or whatever. And then this office, he said, I have to listen to Dremon and Andreic with Dala.
Starting point is 00:08:37 No, you guys don't understand, they're cut really good. That guy's, he's a good player, he's a competitor, he's smart and da da da da. And then he goes out there and I'm like, nope, he's exactly what I thought he was. stop telling me that I don't have the inside story of the full picture for those who don't know I walked around the entire arena yesterday showing people this clip because it's it's amazing it's true he did so the hawks are coming down
Starting point is 00:08:59 they hit ad there's a steal whose maguette's it he pitches ahead to an uncathested Jordan pool who throws it above the glass They're down 20. Wow damn what Dan I'm telling the story. I'm telling the story I'm telling his punchline man. God damn it Dan. That was the whole point of the story. You should go to oddball Oh, I am gonna go to the odd ball man. I'm sorry. He's telling learn it. So what happened? I'm sorry Speaking with thank you for bringing that up great. Thank you for bringing up the art of conversation because I I would say for everything that happened with us at ESPN the steps that led to Chris Cody and everything that happened at the end much earlier than even
Starting point is 00:09:50 the art of conversation, which was a place that we tripped over each other, was that ESPN wanted me out of the local hour to do three national hours, and the local hours always been my favorite hour. I would say that that's almost where the problem started, that they wanted me to be doing other things and the most precious thing to me, which was the local hour was something that they wanted to and did end up taking me out of.
Starting point is 00:10:18 But this is a fun local week. This has always been my favorite hour. Tony hasn't been in it for a long time. This is Andrew Hamilton's first appearance. Andrew? Hey guys, I'm the town crier. Here you here you. What? Alexander Hamilton excuse me. I blew the joke but it's a running theme for this segment. The But it's a running theme for this segment. Uh, the, uh, the second time I did that, I didn't realize I thought if you're telling the story that the relevant detail was that they were down 20 while they were showboding.
Starting point is 00:10:54 He was building up to that. But I didn't think that was the big pay off. I mean, I was the thing that was funny about it. Dan, it's okay. I found a way to tackle this country's weight problem. I think you should only be able to order pizzas if you have the heat promo code. Because we're not bad to seal them. Because right now the whole tri-county area is paying for full-ass price pizzas.
Starting point is 00:11:16 How mad are you? How mad am I? I'm not that mad. And I'm just like last year, I was, I told you so guy until I was epically wrong with the greatest upset and for my money and postseason history, they shoved it down my throat, credit to them. But I think there's an arrogance that came with that. I think they got lucky, they got hot at the right time. I think you'll look back on that run last year and say that might have been
Starting point is 00:11:39 fluky, especially when you compare it to this season. If this roster stays the same, you are looking at a play in team at best. Everybody else got better, they got worse. Now, that was a story that I went into last season with and they go in as an eight seed and they go on this majestic run that we haven't really seen in that sport in a full season.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Sans Lockout. I just don't see it with this team. They're bad. Their whole big plan was bringing in Josh Richardson and developing guys, you look, I got excited watching Joe Vitch in the off season playing your old ball. That guy can't get a minute on this team. That guy who looked great can't get a minute on this team. Oh, it's a little puzzling to me, and they'll probably figure it out and find their form and they'll get hot and Cortez will be tweeting again
Starting point is 00:12:30 because he goes into hiding every time they go on these stretches and Jeremy will be saying they throw babies in the stands and this is all super exciting and I'm prepared for the run, but this team is definitely not championship caliber. This is what's happening here, I would say. Unless it's a mid-season tournament, which they will absolutely win. Which begins Friday.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Don Lebertard. All these high-paid analyses. I don't want to mention names. TNT. ESPM. You know, oh yeah, they're there. They cannot go to make it, you know, even if they win in If they lose it in Miami, they calm you down. I know
Starting point is 00:13:11 They lose in Miami. They don't got a chance in Boston. Oh, they're going to have their ass, you know, wanting Boston, you know, two guts. They were wrong. They were are they going to lose their job? No, are they going to get a cousin Payton? No, what are they going to do? Keep predicting what is the obvious. They're going to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? The heat are going to win it all. This is the Don Lebatar show with its two cats. Mike, I would simply say to you and the audience that it won in four, I'm just pleased that
Starting point is 00:13:50 you're angry now as opposed to indifferent, which is what you were much of last season. I'm angry and I'm winning bet stand. When they couldn't shoot last season and then you hopped aboard and it was a lot of fun and it distorted. Not unlike they gave all that money to Dion Waiters and Hassan Whiteside when that team beat the war years in one game and went like 31 and 11, the second half of the season,
Starting point is 00:14:13 it is possible that you think that that's recreatible, what just happened last year. Mike's dismissing it with got lucky. And I'm like, the way I saw Janice beat in that first round, that didn't look like luck to me. The timing of them ascending to the mean was probably the only fortunate thing. They got fortunate with some things,
Starting point is 00:14:33 but look, they beat the Bucks ass. And anytime someone says Janice was hurt, I'm always jumping back down their throats. It's, they got hot at a good time and they were worthy Eastern Conference champions. But I think when you couple that with this year look it's not we're not too far removed from them also making a run us feeling good about ourselves them being injured in the finals and then saying we'll get them next year and then there's promptly swept out of the first round right so there is very recent history for a letdown season following a run to the finals
Starting point is 00:15:03 and they're just not good. They're a year older. They gotta do something with this roster. And Mickey Harrison can cryptically tweet all he wants about thinking that they know better. And he can fire back, however he wants at rumors that maybe Bradley Beall going into the luxury tax for something that they didn't have interest in
Starting point is 00:15:22 and they can lie and tell his Tyler Hira wasn't a part of these packages, but they failed this off season. They fail a lot when it comes to getting guys that can improve this roster. They need to improve this roster. It is plain as day guys. I kind of, I think we need a shot of Jeremy in the bottom right of the corner when we're talking heat around here because it's just so funny to see his face. Well, but let's, so let's have this out.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I'd like to have this out between, you know, man, Mike's fandom is earned. He loves this team. He cares about this team. The standard is where it is. We call the Homer all the time. No one's keeping him more real than me right now. This team is objectively bad, but they will win the NBA.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It's he's keeping a real down. But so Jeremy, you've spent the entire time shaking your founding father, W father wig in dismay because because you have supplanted my cryin as homer guy my grinds analysis has been uh... harsh he really dislikes Josh Richardson one of his least favorite players ever now he's got him in back court with Kyle Lowry like this is not a lot of fun to watch this grind in my most in the powder this is not a lot of fun. I just Grinded my mullers into powder. It's not a lot of fun to watch if you love the standard that this that this team is set And you got I got the Brent Venables neck right now. Don't you dare say Calauri around me so much easier when Mike was in
Starting point is 00:16:37 Different last year but now five games in you got him in rage My soul is possessed by the late Bobby night. I will kill you if you saved up. Go. I'll hurry around me. What? What this heat team is doing to Mike is cruel. I mean, go ahead. Put Antoine Walker out there while you're out. Hey, he had stones to be told through the right 2006 forever. Show me those stones.
Starting point is 00:16:57 All right. All right. So Jeremy, go ahead and Chris, can you help me navigate this because what I was beginning to say about the local hour and local journalism you're going to Germany this week. Yes I am. That's dumb from. This is but now metal arc media is going to start making moves after Hollywood and Chris
Starting point is 00:17:17 Cody's going with he's going dog going to he's going chief Stolfins, but Jeremy is an uppercumber in this business. And we have dressed him up today, which punishment is this, which team lost? Oh, man, I don't know. I've lost so many weeks in a row at this point. I have so many punishments to do. So this is the first of several, probably the Arizona Cardinals, because I got them like three weeks in a row. All right, so you're a founding father father guy and you're furious with everything Mike is saying
Starting point is 00:17:46 because the thing I wanted to ask Chris Cody is Jeremy biased. Can you take what he's talking about? I can be critical of the Miami Heat. It puts him in a difficult position. I can be critical. I this team struggled the first five games of the season. I won't call them garbage because they're not Josh, which is trash. I will not do that.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I think that at this point, it's fair to criticize their start It's fair to say that even the Miami Heat themselves after last night's game said there needs to be a sense of urgency and fixing the problems that they have That said when you look at a five game sample one game played without Jimmy Butler in the lineup, one game played against the Bucks without Bam in the lineup. No Caleb Martin at all to start the season. He's the guy who we were all clamoring to be the Eastern Conference Finals MVP. No Kevin love for a handful of games here. Your rotation probably, as I said before, will not include as many Jaime Hakez or Josh Richardson minutes, two guys who were a huge part of the reason that that game went south yesterday. Despite Hakez being in a positive plus minus because he played with the starting unit that was
Starting point is 00:18:50 dominating for most of that game. You had one stretch with a bench that won't be your final bench rotation that really blew that game. And no, there's no reason to believe that this team as presently constructed with the rotation that you saw last night would be a great championship caliber team. But to act like they're one won't be minor tweaks made throughout this season at some point to probably assure a little defense at the back up center, potentially a little bit at the point guard position,
Starting point is 00:19:20 would be naive. And when you look at this team as presently constructed, you haven't seen it yet. Last night was the first night of Haywood Highsmith who's gonna be the next guy that everybody goes, oh man, how'd they do that again? Yeah, so I'm naive for thinking that the Miami Heat will fail in improving the roster. I think as I'm in the middle here, I think Mike's bias towards Josh Richardson, Jeremy clearly is a little bias towards the heat. I think right in the middle. They're fine. Let's not panic I mean, it's it's hard to say Good ref right there. Don't panic. That's it. I'm not saying that it's not bad right now. I'm saying don't panic after five
Starting point is 00:19:53 We are asking a lot of Caleb Martin though. I'm not every time we have these conversations the last few weeks You reference Caleb being out and I know he's a nice player, but he is there probably third best player That's what I mean. He needs to be that for this. Do I sound like I'm panicking? I'm not panicking. I would panic if I had high expectations for this team. I don't. I just get it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I just get it. I get so confused by how the results don't influence the analysis, right? Like that's the part that I want to be confusing. No, no, the results of the last several seasons, because all of heat Twitter and Mike Ryan is in amalgamation of what heat Twitter looks like right now. He is it. He's out after five regular. My, the results of the last few season is you have two runs to the finals, which were unbelievable that people will try to poke holes in and I will, I will shoot them down and counter argue all day for, but you also got swept out in
Starting point is 00:20:43 embarrassing fashion the year after you had a play-in that went to the- You had a play-in. I know you wanna hold up the finals. That's great. That's another banner that we can take pride in and beat in the Celtics, but also, they were three minutes away from not making the goddamn thing.
Starting point is 00:20:56 So I think that there's plenty over the last four years to be like, there is a very clear opportunity to improve this team. And I'm being called naive for doubting their ability to do so when they have shown you who they are time and time again in that regard. This is a lot of process over result for an organization and a fan base that's supposed to be result oriented not process. Chris Cody, all you have right now is a result and it's one and four.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And you have also on top of the one and four that Mike Ryan has been pissed at this team for long before last playoffs. I was angry at them for beating Chicago last year. Like I wanted Wembee. Who now? I just got to do that. They still do that. I do not do that. I do not do that. I have to see those photos. I mean, look at you guys.
Starting point is 00:21:44 You pro Wembee guys. It's like rooting for Bayzos. What do not do that. I have to wear those photos. I mean, look at you guys. You pro-Wenby guys. It's like rooting for pesos. What are you doing? Can you imagine if we would have gotten Wemby the heat, all the sudden Michael would have been completely the opposite side of that? What is wrong with that? You see that as if it's a gotcha. But that is a gotcha.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I believe that in this room, we have all the forms of heat fandom. I believe that Mike is the cartoon monster belch by heat twitter and he is emotional and the standard is the standard and uh... look at my leo de caprio in the department it's not moving i'm not emotional when it comes to the same i understand but you've been but you've been back and forth you've swung back and forth with this team i swung once when they went on arguably the most
Starting point is 00:22:28 Jerry's big consistently the just pro heat I've repaid for but I've been right Consistently Calm down settle down Jeremy the thing so you got Chris Cody's another all the preseason game of playoff like that I feel like quite lighter to that. I did not I feel like I have some I pretty good perspective with these teams. I believe that Chris I don't fly. No, I stay right here in the middle. You know, it's not just that you're in the middle. I with you are yes, but you have to understand Chris Cody descended from the Homerist of Homer trees. Chris Cody who's going to Germany and he will, he'll be in a dolphin cheerleading outfit. He is not gonna be there as a journalist.
Starting point is 00:23:10 He's gonna be like, hey, look at me. I'm in Germany and I'm a dolphin fan. What am I doing here? How many dust boots can you? You're looking at it and you're like, hey, he, yeah. You'll probably be interesting this year. Catch him the playoffs and it'll be great. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I glanced at the game last night. No, but Tony's a different kind. I want to know how Tony feels about what's bouncing around in this room because after five games, you're getting all the heat fandoms because heat fans desperately want this season to matter. Never mind, never mind whether they win or go 500, they just want to have a reason to care about this team. The problem is you have a lot of different aspects like you said Dan, like you've got Jeremy Boughton paid for who's always going to be the homer. You've got Mike who's a little bit more reasonable when it comes to things, right?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like he'll tell how it is, he's been 100% 100% this is a tire time. A little bit more reasonable in Jeremy's reasonable. Mike's reasonable. Somehow keep it 200. It does. He keeps it a thousand by the way. But to me It's tough because you see this team and you know you don't have the guys. I'm just saying you don't have the guys
Starting point is 00:24:11 Good guys man. Yeah, but Dan the Celtic scored 155 points. They look incredible. Oh man the Celtic boxer In the regular season again cool. Oh this guy. I Gotta see Jalen Brown do it in the playoffs for real sure. Okay dribble with your left hand Okay, sure when you know you don't have the guys you know you don't have the guys down I got to see Jalen Brown do it in the playoffs for real. Sure. Okay. Dribble with your left hand. Okay. Sure. When you know you don't have the guys, you know you don't have the guys. Down on the guys on this roster.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Caleb Martin did outplay Jalen Brown last year. You don't have the guys, but I think a bigger indictment is they're failing to get the guys. They know that they need to get more guys. That's why they're talking to these other teams and they stop short or they approach things with arrogance That's be will-during to me. Jeremy you'll agree with this Tyler hero He has been tremendous Nice little player maybe we can flip him finally. Oh my god. You You don't at all when you say when you look at the heat organization
Starting point is 00:25:04 Okay, I'm just curious about this as you become heat Twitter and cartoon Manifestation enraged a Josh Richardson's experience. How better those culture jerseys terrible You look at the heat and you say befuddling arrogance and you don't see it in yourself, right me Me I'm the 300 now don't see it in yourself, right? Me? Me? It's a bit of a thousand. I'm thinking of the 300 now. Wow. Don Lebertard.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Kiss me where you bruise me. Kiss me on that flashy part. Really? Yeah, really. I'm just gonna kiss me on that flashy part. Kiss me, not touch me. Kiss me on that flashy part. It's a big, big, big, big, big, big, big.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Wow, Roast. Stugats. I'm talking about the cladder, is it? I'm talking about the cladder, is it? I'm talking about the cladder, is it? Yes, I am. Now we're out here riffin' and I'm gonna try to find it if I can. Wonderful rendition.
Starting point is 00:26:00 This is the Don Lebatar show with a stugat. ["The Star of the World"] Chris Coney's going to Germany. I can't believe it. We're a big media company that sends the child of nepotism into his journalistic career highlight, right? Oh, this is great. I'm excited, a little nervous, because I'm going alone. I mean, you'll be there a little real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, real, a real, real, a real, a real, real, a real, a real, real, a real, real, a real, a real, real, real, a real, two. Look at this, it's as good as a surgery. Tony, come on, yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Roy, thank you for this. Well, because they play hoffinheim. I'm awful. I see, no, but I'm convinced that what Mike is doing here, what he is entertaining himself by giving us a barrage of phrases, just a speed bag of barrage of things that we don't know about. Because me and Tony are having the same reaction i can't believe that you just did a call back to your bet from yesterday
Starting point is 00:27:12 well there's a price that uh... that you only made because you wanted to show off by your labor cousin that's not showing off that's an easy one i know but you you are doing a slalom course through the Bundesliga of a bunch of phrases when making bets that are aggressively soccer. Aggressively. Well, aggressively soccer, they're just soccer. What's aggressively soccer? It's aggressive. No, no.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Minus one and a half, dude. They won that thing by three, and they were tied in the 88 minute. I told you,, team's unstoppable. I want to talk about chiefs and dolphins and I want to talk about what Chris Cody is going to be doing in Germany because I learned just like Mike did,
Starting point is 00:27:55 hey, Chris Cody's going to Germany and your dad hasn't made a trip like that. You are out in front of the Miami Herald. I don't think the Miami Herald is sending a correspondent my dad's already trying to latch on to it he's like you think you could do a hit for me for the Greg Cody show it all call you and it's like that no that's good I want to bring your father son beef on air I think it's uncovered it's on the Greg Cody show with Greg Cody oh I said it correctly that
Starting point is 00:28:29 Creatoring I can't do it when he's here. I can't do it when he's here You Don't go through your beefs enough and people think you're being mean to your father Yeah, people call me Chris Levitard on that show your but your father your father Oh, Fribert versus bruschum what much in gladbach. Oh, wow your father is a little fiber versus brusch and watching the lot back. Oh wow. Your father is absolutely now while paying none of the freight and underpaying you, underpaying you indisputably. Now is going to want correspondence from you live from Germany
Starting point is 00:28:58 because the Miami Harold's not sending the what is supposed to be the greatest journalist in the family. His ears perked up when he heard I was going. He's like, ooh, I could do something with that. Right, but we're paying so that we can do something with that. Oh, I'm going to do so much too. I got, I'm going to need some weener schnitzel, a few brats. Be careful with the brats last time they got you in trouble.
Starting point is 00:29:20 They did. Heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, heeey, he They did Honorable Tony Claudio Speak now What thank you town cry cry Dan I don't know if you heard if you were listening Chris went to an October fest last week had a couple brats His tummy got you know, can we pull up the foot? Yeah, you guys get the first a big neutral zone infraction on the guy's foot inside the stall I was in a way too small
Starting point is 00:29:43 guys foot inside the stall. I was gonna wait too small. He was lining up like Christian Wilkins. I saw that. Next time I'm gonna put my foot across the thing. Just be like, hey, what in here too? What is it that's so creepy about the sand don't the foot outside the back? It's the dog being out there. You get a wide stance too.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And it's the bone sandal, and the cifu. And if I remember correctly, the second toe was very curled. Oh my god, no. Let's talk about why it is. I'm not here for all the foot fetishes on the internet, but you do you if you are, but when all of a sudden, you're not here. I'm not here for all the foot fetishes on the internet, but when you're here, you're not here. I'm not here for all the foot fetishes on the internet, but when you're here, you're not here. I'm not here for all the foot fetishes on the internet, but when you're here, you're not here. I'm not here for all the foot fetishes on the internet, but you do you, if you are, but when all of a sudden, there it is.
Starting point is 00:30:31 There it is. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Look how close it is to my shoe. You know, this thing you had to have broken that one. The fuck, guys, Toe is crazy. I gotta go wider there. I gotta fight back.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I think you, I can't put up with that. I think you went toe-poke. That is. That's a weird part. Somebody tweeted me that that's a sign for swinging zoom in like someone's like hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Maybe somebody knew who you were I mean I think I recognize there maybe you followed me in This is how I'll get them. I have seen that foot so many times in the keys Every public every public bathroom in the keys that foot is Here the further south big chill No, and you go further south. They'll be seven feet in there Just like that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 That's a power move. I don't like that one bit. No, nobody does. Nobody does. You got come on. You've got to have you got to you got to put a boundary. So my sound was on too. So you could hear the camera picture. Is that the kind of footage you're gonna footage I had to throw it in the I had to throw it in the poop chat. That's why I took the picture. I'm like I'm taking a poop Are you gonna go to Germany to bring out our That's on foot is gripped really hard. He's going through it right now. He's literally digging in. Zoom out. Zoom out. Zoom out. Zoom out.
Starting point is 00:32:10 He's digging in. Look at look at how white the the toes are. White Nucleus. He is digged in. I'm just imagining Chris in a power move just reaching down and going this little piggy went to the market. I mean, I thought about it Good times hopefully more of that in Germany Really, I don't think I want anymore of Chubby sausage is gripping the floor with a maniacal seal Cleansing because of whatever it is that was going on in that store. The rods. Perhaps you can take a photo of that at Hydenheim?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Of other things going on. There's a stoot-got, which is I actually always reminds me of su-gots. That's a stoot-got. Stoogots has sent me a tweet, or I'm sorry, he sent me a text where he is, I don't know if I should publicize this or not, but he's got some thoughts and He can't be here to share them, but he he doesn't want How do I say this because I everyone gets mad at me whenever I do the true legit? He doesn't want us Eulogizing Bobby night. I'll I'll understate this in a way that celebrates Bobby Knight. And he is firing off
Starting point is 00:33:27 texts in, in rage because he's evidently heard some Bobby Knight celebrated today. How am I going to handle the truth? There's been a bunch of celebration of Bobby Knight. Look, if you're looking at results and what a, a dude meant to an area of the country to a program. Bobby Knight is considered one of the greatest coaches ever anyone a lot of games. And if you don't have anything nice to say in these moments, you should probably refrain. Okay. Word association, throwing chair.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I mean, there's a lot in bokeh racism abuse. There's a lot there, casual racism, not so casual racism, but you judge somebody by the morals of their time, I guess. I think of the color red when I think of Bobby. And even by the time, you know, he was a lot. He had, it will say it most kindly, I guess, an anger problem that was obvious to all and a string of controversies that made him the most polarizing sports figure anywhere in
Starting point is 00:34:33 authority, former military discipline kind of guy who wins coach K, didn't he? Wins three championships. Not literally crisp. That would have been impressive. That would have been amazing. Yeah. And made his rage more understandable, but three national champion chips and the only undefeated season in that sport since 1976. Yeah, and one of the more colorful characters in the in the history of the sport. And I know that there was some controversy around his homecoming in Indiana. And I think even the most cynical could find aspects of that heartwarming
Starting point is 00:35:13 because he was battling Alzheimer's and it was they did it so he could experience it as best as he could. And I think anyone listening to this knows what a horrible way that is to go to see a loved one deteriorate right before you. There's a shell there, but the person, and in this case, a person that had so much life color attitude to them, to see that light diminished, it has to be crushing, which is why the family has asked for donations
Starting point is 00:35:42 to Alzheimer's research in lieu of flowers, but also in addition to all his accomplishments, to some people, he was awful. He was not great. There's videos of them choking players. Dan, you could speak to him because a lot of his offenses came before I was even born, but Bobby Knight, his history is a complicated one. He was abusive and a coach like that would not be allowed to exist to because he was physical with his players and he was such, man, he's the start of coach as power figure as the media age blossoms and you've got like college basketball,
Starting point is 00:36:27 one of the biggest things in America is becoming that, because Bobby Knight is leading these Indiana teams to three championships, and his only NBA All-Star ever was Isaiah Thomas. So like that's an amazing, like he was leader of men, and his anger was encouraged, and filed under leadership, and discipline, and he graduated players, and he was all powerful
Starting point is 00:36:47 and he was abusive and he and he did things with that power when you say of the time coaches of the time whatever the most bloated and ego maniacal of those things that get celebrated by America are because this was leader got. This is how you led this guy in sports and it came with controversies galore because he had an anger problem. And I don't even know if it- It built an archetype that was often imitated, not the results. And did it in a place that,
Starting point is 00:37:19 you know, you're coming off of Hoosiers and the idea of Hoosiers that has no ordained, right, to be that kind of good at basketball. Why were they that good at basketball? Because Bob Knight led men the right way, and it had racist. Underturn, undercurrents, and overt racism. I could go through the list of controversies. He's the most scandalous coaches ever in terms of abusive with power. There aren't more like that, but you're not supposed to say that again.
Starting point is 00:37:50 We had plenty of, in the history of the show, the show's been around for almost 20 years, and we've done these shows. I think that if you're a Bobby Knight fan and you're argument to hearing this is there's a time and place for this, we certainly did it as it was happening. So I think we should probably back off today out of respect for the ones that loved him.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Uh, okay. Fine. No, I mean, three seconds Roy, go. All right, well, my last, well, the last thing I saw is- No, I was joking. Okay, the last thing I saw was- That's where we go. Okay, the last thing I saw was...
Starting point is 00:38:21 That's where we go!

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