The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Did You Watch The Game?

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Jessica, Roy (to the rescue), and Tony. Dan wants to share his opinions on yesterday's Panthers game, but Roy has an important qualifier before he allows Dan to speak. Did the Panthers get lucky? Is the series over? Does a good hockey team need a Pavel? Then, Sunday's NBA action has made last week's takes age like milk, so we hear from our "Gasbag of the Week." The crew covers the Knicks getting blown out and Stu's fears that their series is over and Jamal Murray's miraculous shot as the Nuggets dominated the Timberwolves. Plus, a question about AROD leads us to realizing we should have listened to Pablo, a controversial AFC East Stat of the Day, the bibliography page, and the most emotional Mike Breen "BANG!" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Stu Gots, have you ever seen in all the years we've been doing this, me and Roy argue the way that we did before the show today? Me and Roy have an argument? Uh, no. To be honest with you, no. I don't think I've ever argued with Roy about anything. His temperament coming in today was strange. I thought it would be better with the Panthers up 3-1, but it's Roy. And so he kind of stomped in and I pulled, like I drove past him as he was walking in and I just shouted Royy to the rescue cuz he was even supposed to work today but the way that game what went he uh... he was needed here because it was forced into action because everything is

escalated in that series marchand is out because benet punched him in the face and it's like that and and and and they're saying before the game boston say what we're gonna have to take out their top guy and then the net next thing you know uh... reinhardt is getting hit so hard on the first shift of the night the both guys are losing their sticks and uh... so i say to roy roy you pulled one out of your ass there last night and his response

was a dismissive and condescending did you watch the game? I love that. They dominated, Dan. It's a staple of sports radio when someone is trying to give their opinion on a game and the other person who's watched every game for the last decade says, did you watch the game?

Dan, did you watch the game? Stu Gotts, yes, I watched the game. You sure? Yes, I'm positive that I watched the game. But I also love that Stu Gotts neuters these kinds of conversations when you come back in him with did you watch the game? And then the answer is no, I didn't watch the game I'm by no means a hockey expert, but the Panthers cheated yesterday That seemed that seemed like goalie interference to me will ask Katie Nolan about that

But it did it I know it's a Bruins fan about that i well i i'd it here's the thing i don't know the rules so it just a minute i know that was cheating it just seemed like i mean they challenged it and then they started complaining about it and they said they wouldn't have challenged it and and finally you just get into one of these situations and it's a weird situation to be in where they're saying yeah I wasn't allowed to do my job wasn't allowed to do my job because Bennett pushed coil and Swamen didn't have his ability to be a goaltender I mean that's a regular season penalty possibly possibly that

cross-check yeah but switch sweaters Roy and tell me you feel differently you know what I mean sweaters is what we call jerseys in hockey. Thank you Billy. What Roy is saying there are certain penalties you call in the regular season they don't apply to the postseason. I understand I didn't need the translation I get what she did I know what that argument is but I'm simply... In the regular season they would call them but in the postseason they shouldn't because it's hiding stakes yeah Lord Stanley. All of this was happening and several people in the room were insulted because Jessica wasn't interested she did not watch the game

because she was consumed by a what I'm gonna call a Caitlin Clark documentary even though it wasn't a Caitlin Clark solely documentary that you and Stu gots were both in what really huh I was in, I saw that Stugats was in it. Oh, you were both in it. I was in it. Names on the show. Well, but I just saw a clip, I had a clip, I saw a clip that made me really wince,

really wince of Stugats. I didn't realize I was also in that clip though. You're both in it. Huh. What was my clip? Congrats. Do you guys have that? We'll get that and play it for the audience.

It was a good take. I've said nothing but glowing things about Caitlin Clark. No, that's not true. That's not what ended up in the documentary. Really? That wasn't about her, but was about her. Or was only about her, but wasn't supposed to only be about her.

Oh boy. What did Dan say? It was something about greatness. Oh good. Okay, we'll get to that in a second, but you haven't seen this? No. You haven't seen it? Okay.

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Right. And that the goaltender was interfered with. Mm-hmm. Did you watch the game? Did you watch the game? Did you watch the game at all? In the regular season it would have been, but this is post-season hockey.

Right. Dan, what they're trying to say is there are certain calls that you don't call in the post-season. I got it. That you call in the regular season. That's one of those calls. Thank you. Hiding stakes here.

This needs to be stated though, because this is one of the rare ones where the Panthers did get lucky. I know Panther fans are gonna say like, oh, whatever, in the regular season. Did you watch the game? This is the rare ones where the Panthers did get lucky. I know Panther fans are gonna say like, oh, whatever, in the regular season. Did you watch the game? This is the rare one though, where the Panthers got a clear advantage with that call.

But they also dominated the game. That is not the reason they won this game. Well, it is the reason they tied it though. Yeah. But if you look at the shots on goal, the whole series and last night, the Panthers are dominating this Understood but Marshand is their postseason leading scorer and he's not in the game because Bennett punched him in the face

And that's something that happened. It's one of the reasons that people are gonna grow to hate the Panthers Well, keep in mind that was gonna be a late hit. He was delivering a hit on Sam Bennett He saw it try to reverse hit and and punch him in the punch him in the face Danny Melrose I mean, I this, hockey expert. Are you aware that the Boston Bruins, I don't think you want to go toe to toe with me on this given how little you're paying attention to these games. I don't.

Are you aware that the Boston Bruins are the worst team in the history of the sport at being down 3-1? Nope. They are 0-25 when they play games down three and one. Damn it, are they do? No. Oh, wow. I'm completely neutral, in fact,

I probably lean Panthers because I hate Boston sports. Oh, dicey guys. Yeah. Did you watch the game? No. Good analysis. That's the question, right? Did you watch the game?

Yeah, a little dicey with a moan is pretty good analysis. You don't often see, though, the situation. Roy, I'm correct on this, where Pavel Zaka is saying, before this game, he's saying, we're going to take out their top guys. But that was the motivation coming into this game, because they know the series is over. Like, that is all a panther. It's over. Well, hold on a second. Coming into the game, the season wasn't over. It was 2-1. They could have they know the series is over. Like, it's all Panthers, it's over. Well, hold on a second, coming into the game, the season wasn't over, it was 2-1,

they could have tied up the series. And if not for a cheating goal, they'd still be playing right now. Did you watch the game? Yeah. Did you? No, the Panthers have been so dominant in this game that they've basically taken the sole from them,

so it's over. Like, they're gonna end it on Tuesday. I love a good Pavel on a hockey team. You need one. Yeah, you need to have one. You do, yeah. put it on the pole, please at LeBataard show Do you need a Pavel on your hockey team and? speaking of things Getting things wrong or not watching enough of the games

Can we just go back for a second to basketball Stu Gantz because the Denver Nuggets? This is a good day incidentally for WFAT. Oh my god, the Knicks were down by 43 at one point yesterday. Yep, the season's over, give out the phone number, enjoy a 20 share today. We'll get to that in a moment but just so you know in being down 43 points in that game combined in all of their games since April 2nd the Knicks have only been down 40 in all of their games since April 2nd because they play close games yeah they were down 43 in that one and if you go back to the beginning of last month and take all of their games at the end of all of their games, they're down a total of 40. It's amazing. I can't believe I'm saying this, but just said it last week, you felt like game two was the apex of the Knicks season and will never get that good again.

And I'm not certain she's wrong about that because damn when they lost game three and boy did they have game three on the road when they lost that game. I said to myself, I don't think the Knicks can bounce back. I think the series is over. I mean, I feel like the Pacers are going to win this series. So wait. So wait up to one. You thought the series was over in favor of Indiana when they didn't close out game three. I don't know if you watch that game or not, but I did. I'm not sure that's wrong. Yes when they didn't close out game three. I don't know if you watch that game or not, but I did Yes when they didn't close out game three, they had every opportunity to do it They could have been up 3-0 instead

It was 2-1 the Pacers blow them out in game 4 predictable But I'm telling you when they didn't get it done in game 3. I said to myself seasons over the only reason It's not predictable Stu guys is to the Nick because the Knicks only play close games and even though they're undermanned I've never heard anyone say in my history covering sports have such a bad relationship with their team that when a 2-0 series turns to 2-1 you're saying it's over even though you're up to 1. Yes. Like you have been scarred dude. If that I've never I've been I have never heard that before from anybody even though people are very comfortable proclaiming series over. There's no OG. The Knicks were 26 and five when OG was in their lineup since

they acquired him from the Raptors. They're 13 and 17 in games that OJ OG has missed. He is out. I don't know if he'll be back for this series. I do not feel good about the next chances moving forward here, Dan. I don't. Okay. That's an odd take but because they're they're favored and they're the better seed and Halliburton is still hurt even though he seems to be shooting better, right? But I will get to that in a second, but let's go ahead and play the sounder on a couple of people who were really loud wrong last week.

Gas bag of the week. You guys worked real hard on that, huh? Like a lot of production work on that. Gas bag of the week. All right, so we've got two nominees for you here. We've got both of them are off the Timberwolves Nuggets series. If you went to sleep early last night one of my favorite things in sports is when a champion behaves like a champion and reminds you that it is a champion and

Jokic going for 35-7 and7 on the four time defensive player of the year and putting him in foul trouble, getting him five fouls. Aaron Gordon didn't miss all game. Jamal Murray in the third quarter was lights out. He was incredible. Well, wait a minute. The end of that first half might be unlike anything I've ever seen in terms of eight points in 20 seconds and one of them with Jamal Murray being what can be described as the most difficult shot ever made in basketball. Like if I like rolling to your left falling out of bounds staying

in bounds three-quarters of the court away from the basket like you may argue that there is a shot that you've seen that's better in the history of basketball on degree of difficulty but I'm gonna say I can put that shot against anybody I mean Jordan over Elo comes to mind Jordan against Byron Russell at all comes to mind easy shot Jordan the layup against the Lakers comes to mind all six threes eat in the first half and game one against the Lakers you're not really making a good argument against what I'm saying. You're just reciting Jordan's highlights, which is an excellent way to win a basketball argument.

The shot against Georgetown to win Carolina a national championship. I mean, MJ. Yes, thank you. But before we get to the video of that, can you give me the Gas Bag of the Week nominees, their analysis after Denver fell down down or two against minnesota our first nominee is collin cowherd chris cody out west the story is the defending champs will not be repeat champs that series it's over

denver's got no answers and what i'm watching feels like what i'm watching is too talented teams, but one with Ant is super hungry, relentless, aggressive, and playing like an underdog. And the other team, Denver, is lethargic, starts slow, now plays from too far behind, is a little arrogant, is a little listless, and by the time they look up they trail by 16. It's just, I think Denver's cooked.

I think it's over. The way he said it's over the first time had better condescension than the way that he said it the second time. Great take at the time though. Well, it's easy. It's an easy take when a team has lost two home games. Gas bag of the week. What happens, Stu? Does a piece of your body just fall off? Like a rusty piece of your

body that needed WD-40? No, but that's coming soon. I mean, the debting company, they're coming up this Thursday. That's coming soon. What was that sound? It was a computer charger. Let's play the other sound here. Who is this, Chris Cody? Who else is on?

Bill Simmons. Okay, same series, Bill Simmons. I think Minnesota's gonna sweep Denver. I think the series, I've been through these a few times as a fan, and I think this one's done. And basketball's about to change as we know it. He's been through this, so he knows. He wrote the book.

He did, he did actually write the book. Let's go back to that he knows. He wrote the book. He did. He did actually write the book. Let's go back to that shot for a second though, Stugats, and in general the last nine seconds of the first half last night because it really was magical. I don't know, and this is the criticism Minnesota is going to get because you do have a team with championship savvy, pedigree, resume, all of it playing against a team that people expect because of their youth and anthony edwards is twenty two to fall apart and do dumb things in big moments because they haven't seen any of the moments like this before where denver went through a whole season of a mystery the last year conquered but your up

you're down in the in the game and game and Anthony Edwards has just hit a three and from what I'm looking at there with nine seconds left, they have the ball until the end of the half. I don't see a shot clock. So basically, this game, the worst you can do in this situation, the worst you can do if you're a young, smart team looking to beat a champion is not score and go into the half with the score the same way it looks right now instead you have to sit in the halftime locker room with this because anthony edwards goes into the paint to early Do you guys have the still image, the still photographic image of Murray and I'm really stunned to get that you have not yet just shouted maria

because this would be the time to do it after making that shot i was about to do it by kevin harland is screaming in the face of the jamal murray who isn't looking at kevin harlan in this incidentally he's looking at reggie miller who is stupefied like that that the shot from the other angle of reggie miller was of him completely still of stupefied the way you would be actually in a movie if you're acting for a part act stupefied you need to get the part where he's back in his chair like this

like if he's blowing the being blown back by a wind tunnel of disbelief because he can't believe that you more just made that shot and jamal murray is exceedingly pleased with himself because uh... he knows an anonymous executive said this to god's and i thought it was uh... pretty spot on he knows that he shouldn't be playing in these cases he should have been suspended and an anonymous executive

has been quoted as saying adam silver was protecting the tb ratings was protecting that series doesn't want denver knocked out early and so they didn't suspend him when he threw all that stuff on the court after game two in frustration because he was a heating pad yet what was more than that that wasn't just a heating pad was two or three things made through on the court he was three for eighteen in the game he was frustrated and that'll get you suspended i thought was an interesting does anyone else get you suspended i thought it was an interesting does anyone else think that's interesting now it is an anonymous

executive because nobody would say that about adam silver on the record but the idea that you're more it wasn't suspended in that situation only because denver needed jamal murray because they're down to old to when you can't have everyone thinking what bill simmons and collin cowherd said was so when when that series is super interesting You want that series to go seven games you wanted to go seven games I'm not certain if you're the NBA you don't want Minnesota to win that series though because you want Anthony Edwards to continue what that Storyline to continue because we've had the joke itch storyline already sure

But would you rather have it end in seven where you can get more eyeballs right people in? Stadium or and then for if Jamal Murray their second best player is out The Dan Libertad show with su gots is sponsored by better help We all carry around different stressors big and small when we keep them bottled up It can start to affect us negatively keeping things bottled up can feel like carrying a weight that gets heavier with time Whether it's talking to a trusted friend Bottled up can feel like carrying a weight that gets heavier with time. Whether it's talking to a trusted friend, journaling, or seeking professional help. Finding ways to let out your thoughts and feelings can bring relief and help you

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Don Lebatard. Stugats. Every Cup game. And at what? This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats! Every Cup game! And at what? This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats! Were you guys as interested in that game as I was or did you all go to sleep early because you were watching Caitlin Clark and the Panthers and you didn't have time for the late game? No, I watched all of this game. I kind of wish Kevin Harlan had like, they had like chest bumped or something.

Like it feels like there should have been some sort of handshake. They were both staring each other down and I wish they're, yeah, I wish they had like really just gone for it. Well, I don't think they were staring each other down because Harlan was getting up and screaming in his direction and it looks like he was yelling at Murray but Murray's gaze is directly on a stunned Reggie Miller, a stupefied Reggie Miller. Can you guys tell me outside of Stu Gotts' list of Michael Jordan highlights, can you guys give me by degree of difficulty a shot you've seen in your life more difficult than the one Jamal Murray made. I was surprised he even stayed in bounds, do gods, that he was even able to stay in bounds going to his left like that and being three-quarters of the court away from the rim and shooting it that perfectly as if all of that was planned, as if that's

something that he practiced when I thought he was just gonna go out Of bounds and the half was gonna end that way Can you guys give me a shot that you remember anywhere that the degree of difficulty would have been more that you could argue was more than that in the NBA I Played some games a horse where I tell you some of them you go you do that no look Where I tell you some of them you go you do that no look One hand backwards sometimes you're going there's like a patch of concrete you jump off the patch of concrete over a chair To go like this and then if it's a bank situation You feel like you've made one that's got a greater degree of difficulty in horse

Honestly, there should be professional horse. Horse is more entertaining than basketball regular basketball. Is it not am I wrong? You are wrong. You can watch trickshot videos on YouTube to your heart thank you how about the Wade game winner at the very end and nothing warriors remember he like got the ball back and then he like double clutch yes I mean that's you're saying that was a better shot just in terms of like awkwardness but how about Billy's he didn't see it though he don't watch the game how about the yogic one where he gets it turns around throws it above his head, bank shot, goes in for the win. Over Anthony Davis twice.

Dan, I gotta tell you, I owe Denver an apology because you brought something up. They're down 0-2, they're going on the road, and that's where champions kind of shine. They'll get themselves back into the series. I didn't think Denver had that in them. I don't know what I'm doing with Jokic and Murray and Aaron Gordon as well who was great, not just in game four but also game three. I did not think Denver had that in them. They were going to go on the road, tie the series at two games a piece and bring it home for a pivotal game five. I love a pivotal game five. I do. What you are doing with Jokich is the same thing you've been doing I know with yokich I got a stop pronouncing his name in correct. So you don't respect him enough to even pronounce his name correctly

The Yoker he's even even he's a three-time a three-time MVP and again 35 7 and 7 and again thirty five seven and seven last night on the road when they need to save their season against the team uniquely qualified to throw giant difficult bodies at him uh... it is impressive to watch but let's go back for a second to w f eighty because uh... still got has to be wounded

today uh... the nixon pacerers game was not in any way interesting. And now Stugatz is officially scared. I'm terrified. I mean, that's why it is interesting because Knicks fans are scared and I love that. We should be scared. I mean, we have three and a half players and Obe Toppins playing out of his mind. I mean, it's crazy. That Pacers offense has been good all year though.

Like that's what they do. I know. But that's what they do. I know. But that's what they do at home. They're bad on the road and six seeds, 10. Teams like the Pacers, I remember this happened with the 42 and 40 Heat team that didn't wanna trade Bryan Grant for Shaq. People fell in love with that team.

It couldn't win road games. Was totally incapable. It was a Dwayne Wade, Bryan Grant, Lamar Odom team, incapable of win road games was totally incapable it was a dwayne wade brian grant lamar odum team incapable of winning road games the paces uh... i'd they're undefeated in the postseason at home and have they want have they want to gain on the road they've been made that they would want to milwaukee games on the road i think they did it maybe they did but it's a it was i think it was the game that both yannis and little word

were out and you know teams with two leadingers out to that point were oh and 13 and then the next game, the, the, the bucks drilled them. The, the Pacers are a bad road team. Thinking of the watch party that we did stack has changed my perception of Pascal Siakam, I think forever. He's like, Hey, he has no bag. He's trash. He's garbage. And I'm like, no, Siakam is pretty good. Like I like his interior moves and stuff.

I was watching the game. There was one play where he gets the ball in the middle of the paint. Kind of does like two pump fakes with nobody around him. Hits a fade away shot and bricks it. I was like, ooh, he's not that good, is he? He is a rugged, I think Stack called him a two and a half. Not a one, not a two, a two and a half.

Because someone here called him a one. Right. And he's like, no, more like a two and a half. Because someone here called him a one. Right. He's like, no, more like a two and a half. He's not a one. There's no way he's 30 years old either. I mean, that guy looks like he's 64 years old. I'm sorry. Yeah, some of that stuff with foreigners can be dangerous. We've been doing it a lot.

I think we started with a I said, I'm sorry. Yeah, you did say you were sorry, but not before you said it without apology. You said it first and then immediately apologized. And- How do I do that moving forward? Well, don't say it.

I would say it would be the way to go instead of apologizing insincerely immediately after saying it because you just wanted to say it. It's fair, I mean, I should watch the games. That too, that would help. But he, yes,akam is physically strong and will go into the paint with his uh... elbows and shoulders and do a lot of much else will not be over and what's a mid-range jumpers after bumping you off

of it and at the end of games it's never hard who's going to be taking the shots because because uh... siakam is not kawaiiwhi Leonard and was better as a two next to Kawhi Leonard but the Knicks never got to within 27 in the second half of the Pacers yesterday and you want these games to be close the Knicks have played almost nothing but close games Josh Hart's two gods gave them nothing, but he did before the game say something. He looked like Josh Hart again

Well, it's weird right Josh Hart is 17 rebounds over here 19 points over here And what he do yesterday two points he didn't do points three rebounds to assist You know just a weird game after every game this postseason He's been he's put up some statistical line that you're like, whoa I think somebody who was it that was talking was it Goldsberry was talking that he was shooting like 30% from three before he injured his wrist and then the wrist got injured and his shot stopped being crooked Then he started shooting like 40 something percent Reminded me of like Shane Baty. he was in a terrible slump, and in the finals he

just said, you know what, I'm going to aim a little left now. I'm just going to aim to miss and see if that works. And then he made a bunch of threes. But Josh Hart, I thought, did the Pay the Whales, Save the Teachers, and I know I'm saying that wrong. He said, the perfect thing, Stu Gotts, to get fans on his side when you're trying to be lovable. They're asking him about all the minutes that he's playing,

and he says, people get up at 6 a.m., 12-hour shifts. Those people are tired.m., 12 hour shifts. Those people are tired. We're playing a game. Well done, man. It's good. It's just giving the customer exactly what the customer, that should be a part of your ticket. It should come on your ticket,

a quote where a player tells you how hard your job is compared to his. Like they should sell that on you know on the Game Time app. It's like if you if you want to feel better about your team and how much you've paid for the ticket, print on it a quote from one of the players saying your job is harder than his job is. Dan what we do is we combine forces of like a game time and a cameo where you buy your ticket on game time And then you get a personalized cameo from Josh Hart saying buddy your job is way harder than what we're doing I work hard you work hard exactly yes, yes But Josh Hart isn't even saying that he's not even saying he works hard

He's just saying people get up at 6 a.m. 12 hour shifts. Those people are tired. We're playing a game It is the perfect I'm telling you if I could put one quote in a PR class for players I just say you know what do you want a great marketing deal? Don't worry about how well you're playing just say that again and again Anytime someone puts a microphone in front of your face, to any question, anything you're being asked, just say some form of how hard the customer's job is compared to yours. Those customers work at Goldman Sachs. The ones with the good seats in New York, yes.

Not only work at Goldman Sachs, many of them are involved involved in schemes because the scheme is having a renaissance throughout American greed my father the other day says to me turns me have you seen that show American greed? I'm like yes It's amazing. He's like I'm watching it all night. I can't stop watching is yet The America's filled with scammers who are trying to get a shortcut to easy money because they don't want to get up at 6 a.m And work 12-hour shifts so that their jobs make them tired more tired Stacey Keach with the voiceover there is incredible by the way I love that Stu got is put it on the pole please that levitard show is Stu got the stubbled face of American Greek You love your shortcuts I'm voting yes on that. Yes. Roy, I watched

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This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. game on TV tonight. I was going to watch, now I'm not going to watch. Holy shit, that was a shitty sales job. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. Billy has analysis on the Timberwolves' Nugget series that I have not heard anywhere else in American media. There are a lot of people gathered around the trough here having opinions, giving you analysis, trying to stand out and be different. But Billy had a thought that I haven't heard

any basketball expert have on that series. Well, so someone reached out to us on social media and asked a great question that I had not considered. And I actually don't know the answer to this and I'm in a room full of experts here so I was wondering if maybe you guys would know if Minnesota wins does A-Rod get a ring? Well no. Well why not? Because I don't think he owns the team. Yeah but No-Mar Garcia Parra I think got a Red Sox World Series ring He was traded the Dodgers halfway through the season. So he played some games for the Red Sox But I guess well a rod promised to sign the checks and I don't think ever did but

Promise to and you know showed up look at the very least a rod lived in Minnesota for some time and that should count for something Right greed. Yes, did he? Well, he was at a bunch of games unless he was in and out flying back home to Miami at night and then back to Minnesota the next day seems inefficient. I don't think he has a home in Minnesota. Maybe he leased it maybe he subletted maybe is it a you know perhaps efficiency who knows. I would recommend to the audience to listen to the recent episode that Pablo Torre did on Pablo Torre Finds Out on the giant business mess that is the Timberwolves ownership situation because it's an ownership situation.

Like it's bad, where Glenn Taylor's been a bad owner for a long time, and then as soon as A-Rod gets in, the team is better than it's ever been. That's what I'm saying, so does he get a ring or not? It looks like A-Rod took up a residence on the shores of Lake Winnetonka. How about that? In Minnesota.

Took up residence? Yeah. He was there like on Friday. And it's Minnetonka. Sorry about that. You made it Winnetonka? It's a camp, yeah. It can be Winnetonka if they get to the championships.

Isn't the land at 10,000 lakes? Maybe there is a lake with that name. You never seen purple ring? No. Oh man. I just can't unhear Joe Biden saying Minnesota whenever we talk about Minnesota. That's my contribution to the conversation.

Thank you, Jessica. I think he gets a ring. I do not, well, he gets a ring if he installs himself as owner again. There's no way if he's fighting with Glenn Taylor, Glenn Taylor's gonna, like it it's messy the reason I'm telling you to listen to what Pablo Torre is saying because this fight is a good one you don't normally get to see these ownership fights this stuff always

happens in the shadows power ends up being something that doesn't get seen when it's misbehaving and the way these guys are fighting over the team is uh... is something that super messy and pablo went into the weeds on the business of it it's difficult subject matter and he tackled it very well and i would answer that no i would say that there is no circumstance in which glenn taylor would give a rod uh... a ring on less he gives a rod the team if he gives a rod the team then a rod can give himself a ring if he'd like a rod posted a video of him shoveling snow during a snowstorm in Minnesota shoveling the driveway I

mean feels like he's deserving that earns you a ring right there yeah Dan I didn't watch the public Torrey finds out thing but I did see a graph that had like numbers on and I was like ooh yeah cuz the number graph thing I really want to do to do that one. But I do think he's got like a minority percentage ownership in the wolves, but he tried to buy it to where he was a majority owner of the wolves. Am I correct? Who? A-Rod.

No, the opposite. The former owner was selling it to them, and then he secretly went behind their back, and he bought out a minority owner. So even if they got everything they were going to buy, he'd still be the majority owner. OK, so I didn't listen. But the point point is he's still a minority owner, right? That means he should get a ring as a minority owner. He may indeed still be a minority owner

I thought something yeah, I thought something happened where they lost like all of their state. We should probably listen to this episode Well put it on the pole at lebatard show Do you avoid things that are that have numbers and graphs? Give me the start of the day music. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year's start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day.

It is the start of the day. Speaking of not getting rings, this isn't the stat of the day, but Wes Welker played eight years with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and never won a ring. It's one of the great stats in sports, but it's not the one I'm going to here. This one I think is better. There are four teams in the AFC East. That's not the stat of the day. That's a fact.

That is a fact. There are four teams in the AFC East. Do you want to guess where it is the Jets rank in division titles? Second. What? Fifth. What?

Fifth among four teams because the Colts used to be in the AFC East and I'd forgotten all about that. It's been so long that I had simply forgotten that the AFC East used to have five teams in it and so therefore the Colts have won more AFC Easts than the Jets have. Peyton Manning started his career in the AFC East. Yeah, but he did.

He did. That is correct. You're going back started his career in the AFC East. Yeah, but he did. He did. That is correct. You're going back to like Burt Jones though, I mean. I'm going back a ways, but not that far because Peyton Manning, as he said, as Roy said, started in the AFC East and that's where some of those were won. I'm looking here for the credit on that

and I cannot find it. Yeah, credit, shmed it. That is not my stat. It is somebody else's stat and I cannot find it. Because that is not my stat. It is somebody else's stat and I will find it and give the credit where it is due. Just give him a ring. Stats don't belong to people. They're facts.

This is a fact, Jack. I mean, someone took the time to look it up for whatever reason, but like you go to Wikipedia and you go to AFC East or whatever and division titles by whatever. Tony, do it right now. Then it becomes your stat. Thank you. It's just there, it's information.

Like today's temperature is whatever, 98 degrees. That's not something I own, it's a fact. And it's 89 in the studio. Neil Driscoll is the person who had the stat, and we should try to credit people when they look this stuff up instead of stealing the stat. But to Billy's point, where did Neil get it from? Exactly, right. Did he credit somebody? Well, he may have. Neil didn't But to Billy's point, where did Neil get it from?

Exactly right. Did he credit somebody? Well, he may have. Neil didn't make it up. Well, he may have looked it up. Like earlier in the show, I looked up how many, because the Knicks have played. Dan, you don't have to defend crediting a source.

You just don't have to do it. This is not a good faith argument from anyone else in the room. Neil didn't invent electricity here, you know what I mean? Such a journalist. They're not writers. They didn't invent electricity here, you know what I mean? Such a journalist. They're not writers, they don't understand. You credit your sources.

Nah. Well, it also takes the responsibility of being wrong off of you. Oh, that's bad. Now you like it, now you guys like it. Journalism's too confusing. Sometimes you credit your sources, sometimes you're not allowed to.

It seems you pick and choose whenever you want. This time I say my source, next time I don't say my resource sometimes I make stuff up and I just say I have sources but I can't reveal them and no one can verify that it's exhausting earlier in the show the stat I gave you about the Knicks was something that I personally looked up it's not something that you not something that I didn't credit myself. I was able to just say it. In this case, Billy, source is meaning a citation,

not a person. But a person can. Now the same word means two different things. I hated that shit, writing papers, sourcing. God, I just wrote anything. Plagiarism. I mean, try to avoid that. What do you mean you just wrote anything?

No, he's right about that. The formatting is just like, oh. The bibliography page, like give me a break. plagiarism What do you mean you just wrote it? No he's right about that. I know what you're talking about. The formatting is just like, ugh. The bibliography page. I hate that page. What? The bibliography page. No he's right. I know exactly what it is. When you write a paper you gotta put this shit at the end of where you found shit. No. A bibliography is a story about a person.

No the bibliography page is a story about a person. And then if you write it yourself it's an autobiography. I know it's not. My boy Cook. Stupid page. Just believe what I write. MLA form, I can go to hell. Oh, God. Thank you. There is nothing surprising about everything that's happening in the irresponsibility,

the general inaccuracies of the room. Too tired to be responsible, too lazy to actually credit people or do anything that resembles work so that people can trust you as credible and accurate. Yeah, cut us some slack Dan. We're in the middle of a hockey run. Everyone's exhausted. It won't stop. So after the hockey run, Chris will tell us how much he loved making psychos. After the hockey run.

Sure he will. I faith in him. We'll give Neil Driscoll all the credit he deserves. After the hockey run, Chris will sit down and write a book, an autobiography, as Billy likes to call it. I saw something from Isos Pita on Twitter, Stugatz, that I thought was pretty damn great. And it's the rare Cavs coverage from our show because we haven't done much with the Cavs so far this postseason but Tony tell me if you don't think this is correct he writes I think Caris LaVert

has a wheel in his head with a collection of random NBA players anywhere from Michael Jordan to Anthony Bennett and he spins it every possession to see who he's going to play like. That's good. He never plays like Jordan, let's be honest. There's some places where he's incredible, and I'm like, oh! He does sometimes.

Don't you dare say that. I care about you, man. Just when the wheel lands in his head, that one possession, it's not very much, but everyone's in love for a single possession. It lands on Jordan, and that's who he plays like. The Jordan sliver's a little smaller, so when it hits him, he's like like, oh perfect, I got one.

Mike Breen is gonna join us and I'm gonna try and play a fun game with Mike Breen where I play his bangs back to him because I wanna see if he recognizes what they sound like when he made them where he was emotional. Is that legal? Playing his bangs back to him. How do you have that?

You mean the call? Dissemination? No, no, I mean the sex. Oh. Yeah, I mean the sex tapes. Okay, is that legal? Who owns the word bang? Brain.

Oh, good. I don't think that's accurate. I don't think you know what you're talking about. I think you just say things, don't credit anybody, and often get it wrong. When you think bang, who do you think of? Adam West. Wrong, Jeremy.

Rose. Wow. So was it isospita or isospita? It might be isospita. Oh no. Peta then? He's hungry. Thank you, Jessica, I appreciate that.

I was asking. Yeah, I said it wrong. It's hungry. Thank you, Jessica. I appreciate that I Was asking yeah, I said it wrong. It's okay. Peter the animal people. Hmm. You don't want to cross them Also the bread. Yeah Another one of those words that means two different things so you're gonna play bangs back for breed That's correct. Yeah, because I believe I I believe that what I saw from him in because I believe I believe that what I saw from him in game three of Pacers Knicks is the most guttural bang I've ever heard he was surprised I think and as we all were I mean what the hell is Nemhar doing taking that shot what's he doing making that shot and I believe that Mike Breen went and grabbed that bang straight from his nether regions and I think it caught him off guard

I don't think he expected to do that. I don't think he wanted to do that I think he was made sad by that shot, but the whole thing startled him He's a veteran and I just think that he got rattled and I believe it's the loudest bang I've ever heard from him said it with his chest. No, it wasn't his chest. It was lower. It was lower It was not his chest it was and will ask him but i'd i'd i'd believe it's the most emotional bang i've ever heard from them and i'm going to claim

there's because he didn't want to be biased or seen as biased and so he went an extra step uh...