The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Happy Chanukah!
Episode Date: December 8, 2023The show celebrates the first day of Chanukah in a very special way. Plus, Hard Knocks continues to be great in showing the personalities of the Miami Dolphins, Tony brings back his Miami jingles and ...the crew goes to the Bucket Of Death. Also, The Athletic's Dianna Russini stops by to talk about her week, breaking the Zach Wilson news and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Happy Hanukkah to gods.
Hey Margot, how you doing?
Surprise, surprise.
This is Smoky Robinson, I know you didn't expect to hear from me.
But I was contacted by your sons, Jeff and Chair.
And they told me that you used to live in Detroit, across the street from me, and gosh,
that's beautiful.
How you doing again?
Nice talking to you again, I guess.
But anyway, you're living in Vancouver now.
And they want me to wish you happy Chanooka. I have no idea what Chanooka is, but happy Chanooka because they said so.
Anyway, God bless you babe and enjoy Chanooka. Have a wonderful time.
It will stand the test of time. It will be like some of the friends doesn't hold up. But that that's going
to be funny 60 years from that.
That's a no.
I wanted to talk about a number of different things to God. So I got so much on the plate.
Like really we don't have enough time here. Max is containing us to just an hour, but
we have so much to say today about so many different things. Princess Claire is here.
Yep.
Willow is here.
Willow is here.
Jellis that Princess Claire is getting an awful lot of the attention that she used to
got with, without any of the fear.
We'll talk to Princess Claire in a little bit.
This has the feel of a Thanksgiving plate.
Like there's a lot on this.
You know what I mean?
Like this isn't just your Tuesday night at home dinner plate.
This is Thanksgiving and I might go up for seconds plate.
I'm stunned by the amount that we have
to give the audience today in terms of creativity and clever,
but I'm handcuffed at the very start of what it is
that we're doing by a real and genuine unrest
that we have that I need Jessica's help with
as a union organizer because Jeremy and Lucy have walked
out like the merch store is officially a problem. The stuff with Samson is a problem and
everybody wants their own merch to show their faces and we have three new items. We do
have three new items for Tony, for Lucy and for Jeremy, but they're mad because Samsung sort of controlling how all of this goes
out and Tony's been professional enough to show up, but I have labor unrest. Like the
Emmy winner and the 24th highest ranked college football analyst in the land, they want
to be paid what they're worth and we have new t-shirts but samson's being a problem. Yengetagi.
Me.
That's right.
I don't know, hi, Bobby.
That's your, that you're a scab.
Yes, you're breaking, you're breaking the solidarity of what is a, what is a mutiny here?
It is.
But it seems like the walk out has worked.
I mean, they have stuff in the merch store now, right?
I don't know, they want no, but they want to know.
Yes, having stuff in the merch store is one thing.
What is your percentage of the cut, even though you own some of the company?
That's the stuff that athletes deal with all the time and coaches deal with all the
time.
I'm trying to run a labor-friendly company that allows dogs and kids and everybody eats
and things get in the way of that.
Your first mistake was hiring Samson then, I think.
Well, I, but I keep telling people,
this is gonna be a corporation with a soul
and they laugh in my face.
And because that got...
Well, the soul is David Samson.
Well, but, okay, but I'm gonna have to force it on him
is the thing, right?
Because he doesn't understand that I'm trying,
like he doesn't understand,
and he's not the only one at this company
who doesn't understand that I am insistent
on building a company for and run by creatives.
And so, he says, I can't go discount.
I'm already doing everything in the store.
This is the argument I'm walking in on.
I'm already doing everything in the store
at 20% discount for the holidays.
And I'm like, you need to pay Juju and Angel and everybody what they're worth because
I know we haven't been using that merch store right for two years.
If I handed Juju that merch store and let him just sell things in the street, he would
be caching money all over the place.
And we haven't been running it right.
So I want Samson to run it with an artistic soul and something that feeds created but he says he says that i'm already giving a twenty percent discount so
i can't give anymore and i'm saying the promo code now for these three items
and only these three items it's only these three three and only three the
rest of the store samson sucks and the number 20 gets you 20% off.
But new greed, 25, that passcode gets you 25% off on Tony's stuff, on Lucy's stuff, and
on Jeremy's stuff, and just on that stuff.
25% off, over Samson's objections, new greed, 25 is the passcode if you want to buy Tony's
stuff, Lucy's stuff, or Jeremy Jeremy stuff, so that I can concentrate
on doing the work here I want to do and not fighting
over money anymore.
Smart man told me once greed is good, then.
Smart man.
Well, Samson, as corporate greed is not,
corporate greed is not, corporate greed is part of why this country
has as bleeped as it is right now
Do you know how hard it was for Samson to take it down 20% he's never taken anything down 20%
I think in terms of Samson we should just start with us all before we worry about artistic soul
Well, I believe I believe at some point we will sell David Samson's soul on that site
I believe we will actually be 30% on that. It's not that it hasn't happened yet.
We have to, no, it's got to be the most valuable thing
because it's the most treasured thing
because no one's ever found one.
Rare.
I remember asking, we asked this question seriously
on time of Drew Rosenhaus on part in the interruption.
In five good minutes, do you have a soul?
Samson wants to sell stuff. Was he stumped?
Yeah, he lied.
He said he lied and said yes.
That's what he did, because of course.
I have gotten into hard knocks, man, it's been years since I've been into hard knocks.
I got to be honest, but the dolphins, because they're showing these different personalities
and I can't help but notice.
Oh my God, Flores didn't treat to a like,
maybe these things can be fragile
and you don't tough guy everybody.
Some people just need nurturing and love.
And clearly, Mike McDaniel is like an ally here.
How can I help you?
Yeah, I'm in charge or I'm kind of goofy,
but how can I help you?
How can I be an administrative assistant here
for you to get to your greatness?
Like clearly something there in that relationship.
McDaniel has built something that was entirely built
around Tua.
Flores was building something that was entirely built
around Flores.
Like it's like defense, defense,
and I don't trust my quarterback,
and I'm gonna humiliate people
because I learn the way to do it in the bellicic way.
Like, you got a tough these soldiers up,
and McDaniel's like, hey, how can I help?
And to see that play out in a way where he's kind
of the age of his players,
he's not that much older than them,
and they see day in and day out.
This is a person here who is going to help me who cares about me
And then you're watching the audios to got of Tyree kill shouting
I'm the best in the world. Yeah, and then you hear the audio of Van Ginkgo
Giggling like a six-year-old with the football in his hands because he can't believe he you know him in his white hair
Float on a stallion into the end zone with a pick six and you hear his giggle sound like a
six-year-old and that's where they make you fall in love with teams by showing
you the personalities and tying you to uh... caring about the human beings I
believe we deserve a little credit for how great this season of hard knocks has
been right when we got to max this I, this is one of the best seasons I've ever
in.
We're from Miami show.
Dolphins are our team.
So I just think that you're okay there, Chris.
Get emotional.
New greed to 25 is the discount code for everyone here who
thinks they deserve.
But it makes me emotional because we've partnered with Max.
The dolphins are on on hard knocks
It's just so much synergy in the world right now and it's just as a max it can I go myself a max employee
I'm kind of a max employee. I mean all my co-workers and Max they did a great job with this thing
And I just want to commend them. I'll talk to them at the office party in a few weeks. Are you guys going?
I think I think a lot of people Chris and what what you're going to be put in charge of if you end up becoming the executive
producer of the show, like media people because they don't understand sports business are sleeping on the
fact that we're on Max now and we just grabbed everything the showtime does in sports. Like they're just
sleeping on it. And yeah, it's it. I mean, we've got we've got some corporate assassins running our
company and we've been
able to do this in the shadows for a while, fighting over merch dollars, but there is a play
here that allows us to partner with everybody because we're not confined to just ESPN and
it's taken a long time to get here, but we are linked up to make a Super Bowl run with
the dolphins.
I'd go under those circumstances.
Under those circumstances, I would go to the super bowl if the dolphins go you go if the dolphins
make the super bowl i would go to the super bowl and i would make sure that our show and
god almighty would that cost a lot and make sure that every damn person on our show goes
got them right so you you're doing this in classic metalic fashion that where we'll have
to wait until the week before to find out if we're going. Two weeks, do we get two weeks? Let's zoom will be there
and let's book the trip now. Yeah, and this is where corporate does need to help us because I was
promised when we left the SPN. Yeah, you landed music festivals every two months and I kept going in
the same closet in a Cleveland or studio. And yes, because now we work for the machine, DraftKings needs three hours a day.
Not a lot of people make as much as we make.
And if they don't kill us by the time we're done with this, we will have built a network
for DraftKings that they paid us a lot of money.
More than was reported, by the way, because we extended to build a network for them.
And I don't think people understand
some of the business elements of this,
but let them sleep in the shadows,
because it's an interesting time as media collapses.
Hard knocks, though, is legitimately good.
I'm here to do an advertisement for Hard Knocks.
I know it has been for a long time, Stu.
No, it's great.
It's always been great, but this team is special.
This team is exciting.
This team gets along, and your points about Mike McDaniel,
they're great points because he has that ability
then he cares about people.
He cares about the players that are playing for him.
He's very aware of their situations
even inside of an important game.
So when Van Ginkle who is back in
because Phillips got hurt has that big pick six and has a big game,
you could see McDaniel on the sideline feeling good because he knows how much this means to him and his family.
Here's where it's tricky, Sturgats. And we get caught up in in the myth building that we do around
sports. Right. Care is about his players. Okay, that's a nice thing to say. Dan, he at least gives off the
appearance that he cares about his players. And that is that's a thing to say. Dan, he at least gives off the appearance that he cares about his players,
and that is, that's a lot of the battle for a coach.
I don't disagree with you,
but what I'm saying is giving off the appearance
that you care and players who have come through
what they came through to get to where they are,
they have to feel that care.
It's not about saying it.
What I'm gonna say to you right now,
do I care about you? Yes or no?
Yes.
When money and disagreements about money are involved, do you feel cared? Do I care about you? Yes or no? Yes. When money and disagreements about money
are involved. Do you feel cared for by me? By me? Yeah. By the company? Corporate gets in the way
here on caring. The the way of saying it right? The furnace, the furnace that is football and where Tyree kill and to what and Macdan you'll
have to live and rely on each other.
Care illustrates itself in video you're watching on the audio on hard knocks where Tyree kill
comes back to the huddle filled with ego after that deep throw and easy on oh hell no don't
ever do that to me again terrible throw and he comes back to the sideline and they show him that
Toa was trying to move him away from the safety. He was trying to help him
It wasn't a terrible throw and he apologized to to and then he goes and Tyree came here to be the stars to got
Not Kelsey not my homes. He came here to be the star
He goes on social media and he says hey, this is a bad take that that was a bad throw
I thought it was a bad throw they have is a bad take that that was a bad throw. I thought it was a bad throw.
They have the audio of me thinking it was a bad throw.
I came back to the sideline, it was not a bad throw.
The best part about that is,
and I do believe Tyreak in this instance,
but he's been such a good teammate to Tua
that I think he would do that,
even if it was a bad throw.
Like I know we got the audio because of Hard Knocks,
we actually hear in the moment that it is a good throw by two of,
but Tyreek has been, we talk about like wide receivers get a lot of slack
for being divas and stuff like that.
Tyreek has been the best teammate to two of that I've ever seen from a wide receiver.
He's been a great teammate period.
I mean, if you're just basing it off what we're seeing on hard knocks,
Tyreek Hill has been a great teammate.
It's not just a lot of slack.
Tyreek Hill gets whatever it is that he deserves.
He has gotten that gets wiped away
by winning in 2000 yards,
and we get forgetful
because it feels real good to go to the Super Bowl
and spend money in Vegas.
Like, it's not, it's not some slack.
I mean, Tariq Hill is reinventing himself
with the help of hard knocks with Max and with success.
And it's a lot.
It's a lot easier to get along with your teammates when everybody is winning and everyone is getting
theirs.
But as we've learned with the merch store, not always does everyone feel like they're
getting theirs.
So, lebutardaf.com is where it is. And if you want to support Tony, new greed 25 is the code, Lucy, new greed 25.
Jeremy, I'd support him less.
I, you know what, I should have raised his prices.
He's getting too much success too early.
The Emmy, I, like, I should have done to him
what I did to Pablo.
Nobody like someone who gets that much success, that fast.
Adnan was infuriated that he's an Emmy winner, Jeremy.
Because Adnan isn't, and it was one of those things,
because I was doing thing Bradley Cooper said he'd give up
the Oscar win for all his new movie,
for an Eagle Super Bowl.
And I was like, Adnan,
what would, because he's an Eagles fan,
I was like, what's something in your world,
you it, he's like, I want the Emmy.
I want that Emmy.
And then I was like, how angry does it make you
that Jeremy has one? And he's like, I hate it. And he's a nice man, and he's like I want the Emmy. I want that Emmy. And then I was like how angry does it make you that Jeremy has one?
And he's like I hate it.
And he's a nice man and he's ripping Jeremy.
Nice is man.
I think of Hard Knocks wins any Emmys.
We should all get one as people taking credit.
And also if this show gets any Emmys now that we're on max,
we should also all get one.
We were nominated for one one that are half time
our national championship watch a long thing where I was
orange juggling.
We don't have time for that.
Yeah.
I wonder why.
And when Jeremy won a state Emmy though, that's kind of like lower on the beat every
year.
It's not a national Emmy though.
I mean, it's wow.
You're pooping on that.
I'm just saying, I'm saying all Emmys aren't the same.
I didn't know the difference.
You wouldn't say to his face though.
Of course I would.
I called him a magician. Of course I would. I call them a magician.
Of course I would.
Tony, I want to get to a couple of things here with you because we have spent the week
not getting in the local hour to something I wanted to get to.
For two weeks now, these jingles that you're obsessed with, you claimed the, the Maruni,
the local commercial, the Maruni ad for it sounded like a ghost
buster song you claim that that was the best jingle ever then the next week you claimed
another jingle was the best jingle ever.
It's Jennifer's now what now where are we you have another three new jingles Dano because
what I like to do is show the people that haven't been here that long just Lucy Jeremy people
that didn't grow up in like Miami proper that didn't get these kind of jingles Roy's
an old head he knows every jingle from all time,
even in other markets, which is crazy.
But I wanna bring the audience a piece of our Miami,
and these are things that we grew up with,
and I know Chris has already pre-listened
to some of these.
I love them all.
They're great, so let fire off your favorite one, Chris.
Oh, I'm not doing that.
I'm building up.
I'm doing my least favorite first one.
Tony, what kind of amateur are you?
Don't put the favorite one.
You go on right here, you build up drama. Letting Chris be a favorite. Tony, what kind of amateur are you? Don't be the favorite one. You go and you build up triol.
Yeah, yeah.
Letting crispy, I'm professional.
How many, how many, you weren't letting him.
You were telling him how to do the job poorly.
Here's my third favorite. We're friends, we're good times, we're funnabiments. Be there.
La Faire!
It's all there, La Faire, be there!
La Faire!
Be there!
Gay County Fair and Exposition.
Yes, you've got to look, you've got to finger in the air from Roy.
Right.
Elephant ears, Dan.
I, uh, still got, were you in the room when,
uh, when Claire, we talked to Claire and we asked her what are some of the favorite things that
Daddy does at home? And she says he laughs a lot and all of us stared at her like she lied
and was your daughter instead. Yes, I was shocked as well. Yeah. The room was like, what?
He had laughs a lot at home. And I was super confused by that.
That is not one of my favorites.
It should not be on the bronze medal stand.
Give me the silver.
Blurr, I center for Cosmetic Sanery.
I just want to look, he's worth a thousand words.
That's what Jingles were, Jingles, Dan.
Oh, I love that flair set the end.
We got to play that one again love that flair set the end. We got to play that one again.
The flair set the end.
Right.
Before you get to the number one jingle local. That was exciting man.
Can you guys when you said you made me laugh, Tony, when Roy, when you said of Roy, he
knows all the jingles and all the markets video, can you please as quickly as you can just
find crappy sports commercials in other markets that involve athletes because we could play
that for months and make, we could make local regional advertising that uses the professional
star.
That market is so ripe to make fun of.
Just find me a couple real quick before you play this jingle because in Washington's
famous for them, they just have these crappy athletes do crappy commercials.
Or they have to say their name in it.
For crappy things.
No, that's the, no, that's the highest.
That's Brian Arakbo, pro-bola, who's not a pro-bola.
Cupcakes.
No, no. That's the best of them I'm talking about like
poor local guys who the car dealer Jose says hey get your camera out there get
Duncan Robinson sing a song with him no I'm talking about the guerrilla style
Miami shit commercials is what I'm talking about
the number one jingle according to Tony. You'll see what there is to see at my happy aquarium.
You'll see sharks and dolphins.
See light and sea oons.
Learn about sea rains and all the hills.
Florida residents February is free annual past month at Miami Sea Quarium.
Get a free annual pass with every regular admission.
Pay once, come back the rest of the year for free.
Miami's aquarium.
Diana Rucini is going to join us in 10 minutes, Tony.
This is what I'm putting on your lap.
If you want new greed 25 to be something that sells, what I would like is a commercial
for Miami's aquarium that has that happy music, but also an
amenity has been stuck in a 4x4Q with mildew for 19 years
too long. Like I want to do it commercial for Miami
Sequoarium that isn't quite that happy. We could do that.
Make sure you do that. You're putting that on his lap.
Yes, I'm giving me on his lap. We can do it together.
Let's do. Actually, yes, go ahead. Really? Yes, go ahead. I will put you on his lap? We can do it together, Stu. Actually, yes, go ahead. Really?
Yes, go ahead.
Go ahead, say, I will put you on his lap right now.
Or the bucket, maybe.
Yes, he's standing.
Yes, we do all have to go to the bucket.
So let's do that now.
Let's do it as fast as we can here.
I can do it for Tony's lap.
Yes, through the bucket for Tony's lap. D on, Rieper. Y'all heard that.
Rieper, dahlento.
Uh, fine bucket in death.
Oh, okay.
That's instantaneous.
That hasn't, I'm sorry, Jess.
So what, how much is in the fine bucket?
Not very much, right?
It's only my second L of the season, too.
I, uh, I am sorry about that,
but these are winning positions.
Wait, it's empty.
Someone stole the money from the five.
That can't be empty. I put, I've been putting money in there. That can't be empty. I've been putting money in there.
It's only me. No one else is putting money in there.
I've been taking it.
No one else is putting money. There were at least $50 in there.
There were. I've been putting money. I leave it here on the console.
The thief is back.
The thief is back. Tony, who you got?
I've got the, whoo, instant put back. Carolina Panthers.
That is always a put back. Keep an eye on them. They're both cheaters keep an eye on them
Please keep an eye on them the Reaper is like locked in falcons eye right here looking at me
Eagle's eye whichever bird you like
Tennis-y titan probably not better Titans are 13 and a half point dog against the dolphins Monday night
Monday night Monday night
Monday night at our watch party Chris Cody give the people the details on our watch party on Monday night
It's gonna be dolphins and Titans. I love that you just look to Roy and said what are the details go ahead? It's too got reach into the bucket
We're going to the dolphin mall
Vivo the Miller light stage our friends at Miller light dollar shave club come hang out with us this Monday night
Titans dolphins We're gonna be there. We're gonna be having a fun time Miller Light stage, our friends at Miller Light Dollar Shave Club, come hang out with us this Monday night, Titans Dolphins.
We're gonna be there, we're gonna be having a fun time.
Hopefully the cyclones get a win before that.
All right, well done.
Am I picking for Billy Gill here?
What are we doing for Billy?
Am I picking for Billy?
No, just go.
Okay, I'm going.
I like to rummage.
I'm on Tony's lap.
Oh, you gotta hurry up dude.
I got the Carolina Panthers.
All right, it's time to have point dog. Let's go, Stu got slas- We gotta rush this, we gotta Carolina panther all right, I'm gonna have point dog
Let's go. It's to got slas we got a lot of this we got to rush this I know I'm Russian. Oh, I got the bears
Max has new rules. We got to get in and out of here
Okay, bears are run over here three and a half point favorite at home or dog against the lion
She got the bears at home against the lion I have the dolphins keeping it all right nice
At the head with Tony. At the Dallas Cowboys.
The Dallas Cowboys are three and a half point
favorite at home against the Eagles. At home against the Eagles.
Oh, I have time. Let's go. No, you have time. Do you want to put it back?
If you want to put it back. I'll keep in it. Let's go.
I would keep that. It's a three and a half point favorite.
Oh, the Reaper. The Reaper works hard around here.
He's got a... I'm sorry. I still can't go over the fact that I pulled the fine bucket
and it's gone. Sorry. got a... I'm sorry, I still keep it over the fact that I pulled the fine bucket and it's gone.
Sorry.
I mean, I'm legit...
Look, Jessica, I know a lot of people don't know what's a bit and what's not a bit around
here.
Someone is stealing the money.
That's my money.
Well, everyone's stealing the money, but in that case, someone is actually stealing the
money. I've got the Colts. The Colts are a one point dog at the Bengals.
I'm not gonna get it.
I'm not gonna get it.
I'm not gonna get it.
Oh, you're not gonna be scared.
Whoa, big a man and I am literally scared of one game
from the Bengals.
I thought their coach is 428 and 1 when burrow doesn't play now he's 528
1. Oh, and he's wanting to know in the last game he played without burrow.
Jessica someone stole the money. I'm the bottom is gone. It's this is ridiculous. We've hit the bottom. We've hit rock bottom.
Don Lebertard Greg Cody of the Miami Herald is writing an article and I'm reading in it
Moss Miami sold out Miami artist Miami culture and I'm reading Moss Miami's sold out
And I'm reading about digital podcast network and I'm reading about us and I'm like this is our dreams coming true
Still got a thousand people come out and we see the shipping container on their own stage and they're like rock stars
You and me both had tears in our eyes.
We're like mom and dad of sentiment and it's hard to get you to sentiment man.
That was a very emotional moment for us to see those guys, I'm telling you guys, you were
on stage, Dan and I were both crying.
Are you guys aware of this?
Crying.
Like crocodile tears.
We believe crocodile tears are fake.
Oh, crocodile tears are fake.
I thought they meant big.
This is the Don Limita show with this two cats.
What a badass this woman is.
Yeah, I am happy to see her.
It has been too long.
I don't think people understand how hard her job is fighting for information in the
sewer of football and everybody and wants to stop her and
get out of here. We don't want to help you and she left the SPNs to guts. Like I
I've admired Diana for a long time but the move she just made NFL insider for
the athletic to leave the comfort of the corporate entity to bet on herself
her information and her ability to do this job.
A standing ovation.
It seems like this week was unpleasant for you, Diana.
And it's nice to see you, but you reported something and I feel like Aaron Rogers, the things that you represent and we represent parasites
who go to ruin Zach Wilson for our entertainment
because the information's valuable.
The truth is valuable.
A lot of giant contracts these days
where the information is, Diana is paid to go get it,
she's really good at it, it's really hard to get.
So you report Zach Wilson reluctant to play and everyone calls you a liar and you mess up the Jets
And then Aaron Rogers goes on ESPN and makes more news out of it the Jets have messed up the Jets
Yeah, but then what what get what happens next is my friend gets swallowed and it becomes
turbulent and awful so
What's your week been like and thank you for being with us. I'm happy to see you
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you so much for the intro.
I don't get embarrassed much.
You guys have known me a long time.
I'm like horrified hearing any of that.
But thank you for all the support and love.
And I never even thought of it the way you described it.
So the athletic has been tremendous.
I wish I spoke with you, Dan,
before I took the job as a writer.
No one told me that it will be the hardest thing I have ever done in my life.
Writing is really challenging, but really rewarding as well.
This is probably a really simple, basic statement, but I'm really happy.
I love what I'm doing now.
And it took me 40 years to be able to really feel that
and say that and express it.
So it's really been a great three months already
at the athletic, but as for my week, my weakest trash,
it's horrendous.
I live in the New York market,
so I'm in the vortex of it all, so I get to hear it.
And then also, you're from JetStands
when I drop my kids off a daycare.
it. And then also, you're from JetStands when I dropped my kids off the daycare. And look,
when you've been doing this a long time and you've become a credible person covering the league, you hope that because of all the past stories you've done, you've built this
trust with the audience and with the fans. But I realized over the last few days,
it's not that they don't believe the report is accurate. They know the report is accurate.
The story is just unbelievable. And I think that's where is it though? Is it, is it, is it
unbelievable? A guy not wanting to play quarterback for
his team or that team for that. Like, look, I think the jets have reached the right
point. They're the jets. They've been bad longer than he's been bad. Like the
Zach Wilson wouldn't trust that organization to not get him to capitate again. I wouldn't
either. I wouldn't either. Yeah. There was a lot of people that I've had done the conversation since the story broke,
but also even before we put the story out.
And I wasn't getting a lot of, what do you mean he doesn't want to play?
I mean, for some of the old school football people that I talked to, yeah, of course, it's like,
no, no, he has to, he's gonna fly it.
Like, he'll figure it out.
I was getting a lot of, why, look, of course,
he's not gonna wanna go out there and play.
So, I think Zach Wilson, no matter how you look at it,
has just been put through the ringer this year
with the jets and the entire,
he's an entire career in New York has been really hard.
And you know, when you hear Aaron Rogers go on TV talk about why anyone would want to
share that about Zach.
And then of course, why would the media, and obviously you pointed me out, why would I
ever feel okay and comfortable putting out a story about a player when it makes them look so bad.
Unfortunately, it's just my job to uncover the story and uncover the news. And when the number
two overall pick doesn't want to play or is hesitant or reluctant, whatever word the Jets want us to say or are comfortable with the world knowing about it this
point. That's a story to me. It's a story. I feel bad for that. You guys know me. I
have a heart. I'm not this cold mean witch that just wants to piss on the
jet organization. That's not my nature. But this is a story. And here they are now consumed with it.
And they're off to face the Texans,
CJ Stroud, and a really good number two overall pick.
You don't have to apologize.
You shouldn't apologize.
You don't have to explain what it is that you do
and the job that you do.
You do it well.
But I am wondering because you mentioned jet fans are getting after you.
What have you heard from jet fans?
I want to hear some of this.
I don't think you do.
I, I hope you hit by a car.
There's been a lot of traffic outside of my house.
More, I don't know if it's jet fans,
but it seems very busy.
I think people are just...
They want to blame someone, you know?
And I understand it, but at the end of the day,
if I was a fan and there was reporters,
Zach Rosenblatt from the athletic and me covering a team
and being able to share everything that's happening
and giving you the truth, I don't know, I would appreciate it.
But look, this isn't like me,
I'm not coming on here guys,
talking to you like, oh, feel bad for me,
my life's so hard, people are so mean to me.
The best part about reporting the truth
is it doesn't, you're actually indifferent about it.
I'm working on two other stories now,
like I've moved past it,
because I feel, I stand by my reporting on it. I know all the people I talked to, Aaron Granger's
nose I know. Zach Wilson knows I know. Robert Salano's I know. Every person there knows
I know. And it was up to them to deflect it. And, and I also understand why they did that
as well. Diana, I subscribe to any pub is good pub.
And this feels like a great week for you.
I mean, I can only imagine how many views you choose.
I got the other way on that. I would say that this is one of the most horrible weeks of her life.
Work life just because of how unpleasant this stuff can get.
Yeah, well, the problem is I have other stories out there
that I've been writing and working on
and I published a story my first cover story
for the athletic was on the Carolina Panthers
and the dysfunction in that organization.
And I worked with our my colleague Joe Persons on it
and we spent so much time talking to
over two dozen sources on this story to describe
what's going on there.
So I had the Jet Story Monday, the Panther Story Tuesday, and I reported also that Roger
Gidell does it like the Tush push, and then the NFL came out yesterday and said, well, actually
Roger's never really publicly expressed his opinion about it.
So all I three for three this week,
I'm feeling like I'm out here reporting truth and nobody wants to own it.
But this is the job and eventually,
Dan, as you know, it always comes out.
So I'm now sitting in this spot where I'm just like,
ah, someone just on it.
So until then, I look forward to it.
And I hope you guys follow along
when all three of these stories come out eventually,
the truth does, and you can say,
eh, but no one ever remembers that part, right?
But if you had to choose one, good week or bad week,
you can only choose one.
I know it's got new ones, good week or bad week. It was a can only choose one I know it's got new ones good week or bad week
It was a great week. I love telling stories and getting
I love sharing
I'm close to getting a divorce like my husband is so over it because it's I think what part of the job is you guys know that
That people don't get is it's not like you get a scoop, you get like a text message from someone,
you put it out and then like,
you know, then you go out to dinner with your family.
That's not how it works.
It's an all day thing.
So I'm on, I took a call the other night at 11.30,
I was in bed and I'm whispering to this source of mine
while my husband is kicking me under the sheets.
He's basically saying like enough, enough, source of mine while my husband is kicking me under the sheets
Basically saying like enough enough and also I'm trying to sleep. I have a job our kids are getting up in a few hours So there's just like a human element so the collection of information as well that I'm balancing and I have a two-year-old and a one-year-old
And
Crazy, but that's reporting whispering Whispering to us sourcing the middle of the night.
No, but people are impressed by what Wojchenchef to do
and it doesn't feel like that.
It's not a two and a one year old hanging from your ears
while you talk to God knows who would 1130
in your husband's kicking you.
I still don't know.
It's almost like the higher ranked sourced it
in the louder their scream is.
It's like if it's an owner, Michael, my two year old, that's why
he decides he wants to scream on top of his lungs.
Oh, Christmas tree or yesterday, I don't know why he's in this
phase where he likes to his daycare teachers, his fanics.
So he loves to speak Spanish.
So he's screaming all of the top of his lungs yesterday.
And I'm like, okay, okay, like we're not in a little havana.
Like, what we'll do this later,
but mommy needs to talk to this person
because this is gigantic.
So they don't care.
They, he was, all they want to do is eat their pizza
and no watch Paw Patrol.
And, and, you know, forks, unfortunately,
and my husband and I talk about this all the time.
For whatever reason, everything breaks in the witching hour.
And all those parents know out there that have young kids, there's this witching hour between
4 and 7, where kids just lose their goddamn minds.
And that's when everyone decides they want to call me and tell me their story.
Do you have any fear that one of your children's first words will be Zach Wilson or the Jets?
No, my fear is what my son did the other day, which he took my phone and charged.
So you know how an apple pay, you can charge people and give them money and ask them for
money. and give them money and ask them for money, they charged a very, very respected general manager
in the NFL $50.
That's five o'clock and more.
That's great.
That's exciting.
That's it.
Which that's it, and this is why I will fight for the chance
the day I die.
Well, that to me, Hey. Is everything okay?
Do you need money?
I know.
What did Bella check say?
Is everything okay?
It's gonna fall.
It's gonna fall for a scam.
And then Venmo, you $50, because you think's abducted you at that five o'clock in the morning
I was thought it was like whatever you need to die like I don't know what was that bad
You checked out a roster move I made the other day
Was our duty probably one of cutting this guy and then like three days later
It's a $15 charge of five five in the morning. Like it's horrible and I said, so sorry, that was Mikey.
And he said, but he wrote back, is he all right?
I might as well find these two.
He was like, oh, he's just pushing buttons.
I am thrilled for her.
I urge you to follow what she's doing at the athletic and just because like,
I imagine perhaps, Diana, you look at what's happening around here
and it looks to you like it's not actually falling apart because of the contrivances of television.
Behind you, you have a very credible thing here as you've left ESPN NFL insider for the athletic,
but that purple thing that you're sitting in front of, if you were to pull that down, what would
that reveal to us about
the professional surroundings around you as you've left the ESPN and embarked on your
own new journey of getting information.
Plus, we're going to close it.
Please be on the television.
No, it's new journey, old journey.
Remember, this is what I said.
Oh, no.
There it is.
Oh, look at it.
Literally hiding my own life. I knew it. I'm just like, this my god, look at her! I'm literally hiding my own life.
I do stop, obviously.
You see me?
Look at her!
That's great.
I just saw my checks and I'm just sending them a picture of it.
I'm doing well.
I have balancing being full-time insider with you under two.
That's your marriage.
Do you have any friends?
Don Lebertard.
Many of you, by the way, are writing in and you're saying, Dan, quit being so mean to
co-hosts that you always deem incompetent.
That's the formula, man.
Me being mean to the co-host is what allows two gods to take a very wealthy vacation right now
Still gots it's a winning position for everyone
But me have you guys not figured this out yet?
That's the whole thing is me being rotten straight man as everyone else gets to be incompetent
I yell at them for being incompetent and here's the miracle of it into the magic elixir bad
Which is the only thing Greg Cody can be becomes good and lovable and it's because standing next to obnoxious
strident me makes everyone look that way.
And the brush with death helped.
Yeah that was planned by me the whole thing was contrived.
VCC dan lebertar show with this two gods.
Hey Margot how you doing? Surprise, surprise.
This is Smoky Robinson, I know you didn't expect to hear from me.
But I was contacted by your sons, Jeff and Chair.
And they told me that you used to live in Detroit,
across street from me, and gosh, that's beautiful.
How you doing again?
Nice talking to you again, I guess. but anyway, you're living in Vancouver now and they wanted me to wish you happy
Chanooka. I have no idea what Chanooka is but happy Chanooka because they said so
Anyway, God bless you babe and enjoy Chanooka. Have a wonderful time
A totally understandable mistake.
Like, the first time I saw the word Hanukah,
I did not know it was Hanukah,
it was disorienting to me.
So you thought it was Chanukah?
I didn't know what it was.
I just, I'm saying,
whenever it is that I saw for the first time
without knowing if you don't know what Hanukah is,
if you just don't know what it is,
and you see it spelled that way,
I understand how it is you'd arrive at the seas,
not silent, totally.
But a story that I couldn't believe,
that seemed too impossible to believe,
is that a six and six bills coachy on the hot seat
in deep trouble because we all know his team is good.
And somebody's gonna get blamed.
It already swallowed up Dorsey.
Buffalo's never one shit they expect to win something this year and they're going to blame
somebody like Buffalo gets a lot of regional identity from that team and it doesn't usually
have these kinds of expectation.
It actually started with the defensive coordinator and McDermott took those responsibilities over
and he's calling the plays now and they're not playing that well and that he fired Ken
Dorsey. Okay, so still gots. I don't want to actually talk about Pittsburgh, New England last night doesn't deserve it
Okay, that game does not deserve our commentary. Have a good game. Sneaky over those teams
I shouldn't say the game. Okay, we are gonna talk about it a little covered data
Bella check
Wait a minute. Well, I have it.
You bet the stealers.
I did not bet the stealers.
I know normally I would bet the stealers.
Home, I mean a home favorite, minus six
against a bad patriotism.
Off and on the other side.
I don't believe that that's how you bet.
Little on the dog.
Okay, I'm gonna start making you do these things publicly
because that is not your betting. That is not generally the way that you go on this.
But how did this story get reported?
Because if I give you hot seed controversies,
like what do I need to put by a coach from four years ago
to make him look like just an intergalactic jackass?
This story, I'm looking at it and I'm like, this can't be true.
Yeah, this was from Ty Dunn and Go Long.
And it was an anecdote about something that McDermott said in 2009, which is that he...
He cited that the 9-11 hijackers were a group of people who were able to get on the same
page to orchestrate the attacks to perfection.
And then he started asking specific players in the room tactics what tactics do you think they used to come together
and then one of the young players was like uh... t.o.c.
and said that was a big ops i'm sorry but you're that because clear came in the
room and right before we were like should clear
the room when we're talking about nine eleven and that i panic
uh... but anyways he he said that the nine eleven high jackers were like an
example of good organization which which is the problem.
Don't go do that. It was back in 2019. These guys are doing a deep dive on his coaching style and his coaching
philosophy and they unearthed that little little nugget. He said he apologized for it to his players back in 2019,
but when you really read it, it makes you wince a little bit and it really makes you question his judgment.
It's a hug.
This can't be real.
This is a ball-side thing.
Oh, no, it's real.
No, this is a ball-side thing.
You guys are getting ball-side.
There's no way that a coach said, you know who did good organizing the 9-11 hijack?
That can't be true.
I'm sorry, guys.
You guys get a ball-side thing.
When did he do that?
Why is it being reported now?
Because it's not a sentiment oddly enough
that I haven't heard before.
Bill Mar lost his politically incorrect TV show,
a show called politically incorrect.
Because he played with the semantics of those hijackers,
you can call them many things,
but you can't call them cowards.
They gave up their life in the principle of something.
And he lost his show because of the heat that came down on him.
Like I understand, if we're going to make this so much about the military, footballs, the
military, we were talking about Zach Wilson before, would he want to go out there?
Yeah, a lot of soldiers want to be out there.
And a lot of like, I don't have any other options.
I got to be out here fighting for my country.
And if you ask him, honestly, is this in service of his country? No, I gotta be out here fighting for my country. And if you ask them honestly,
is this in service of your country?
No, I need a job.
And it's scary, like all this stuff.
And 9-11 obviously is not something to be joked about,
but in terms of football mentality,
hey, you gotta be willing to die for your job.
You gotta be willing to be so with your teammates
united that you're willing to fly into a building.
Like the mentality of football
the stupidity of saying it is one thing but thinking that way
that let think about the difference between that and what mcdaniel is doing with two a think of the
difference that's happening at the top of that division in the a fc east where they've got a
quarterback we all know was good and the coach is doingass nine eleven analogies because we've all got to believe so much that
we're willing to go to war with another country and give our lives
in order to make sure that josh allen is seven and five
there's so many other things he could have said to for like band of brothers we
got to come together were an army platoon anything like that
that could get the point across without invoking of you know national tragedy
so you're asking the time again, I will tell you,
he said it back in 2019 during training camp
and he apologized immediately afterwards.
This is according to him.
And so what's the blowback on it?
Like what is happening to McDermott?
I mean, surely the internet is flaming him, correct?
Like, and what's happening in mainstream media?
Is it being covered as a giant controversy
because a coach who's already in trouble
did the dumb thing?
I mean, their report is on the, you know,
the front page, the homepage of espn.com.
I saw it on Sports Center last night.
I mean, you have a coach who's job is in jeopardy
who people are, you know, digging around,
they're doing stories on them and that came up.
It's certainly, you have to question it as a head coach,
as a guy who's in charge of an entire organization,
you have to question the judgment of Sean McDermott
to go to an analogy like that at any point in his career.
But what if I tell you that the analogy,
even if he doesn't say it out loud,
that the mentality of it pollutes a lot of them.
Like, they think they're at war, Stugots. They do it all the time. Like, they're not, but they kind of it. Pollutes a lot of them. Like they think they're at war, Stugots. They do it all the time.
Like they're not, but they kind of are. I didn't. There's a reason he chose the wrong analogy.
As Tony said, there's a reason he apologized immediately after saying, I know, but I'm all I'm
talking to you about is the mentality. Yeah, you can disguise it and deliver it in another way,
but I'm telling you, that's what Zach Wilson is living under. Say, let's got the commercials. He
needs to protect his job. And oh, what do you mean? You don't want to play Zach Wilson is living under? Salas got the commercials, he needs to protect his job.
And oh, what do you mean you don't wanna play?
Zach Wilson, what do you mean you don't wanna play?
Yeah, I don't wanna go to war.
Have you seen our offensive line?
Does that make me a coward scared?
Or you're just not very good at your job?
And I don't trust your coach.
You have a point to another example in sports.
Point anywhere else, but where you point it.
Don't say, hey team, I want you to be organized
the way the terrorists wear a 9-11. Agreed. That's it. It's an easy stance. Stagots. Yes, bold. Yes, Stagots.
Way to get out there. Thank you. I worked there all week. Yeah. The story just broke
yesterday. So yes, yes, you're correct. The starting point on this should be put it
on the pole. Hey coach, easy to stand. I've ever taken. Yeah, don't use the terrorists
for inspiration. Yes or no
It's obviously thank you. So got absolutely confused by it. I'm not confused by you
Well that part I am confused because it's a controversy today on something he said years ago who did that to him?
Like somebody did that to him. You're asking the right questions, Dano
Let's
Isn't that obvious like someone wanted to make McDermott look like a fool?
How do I do it? I report the single dumbest story you've ever seen in your life.
I told you they're doing a deep dive into his coaching philosophy and they unearth this fact.
I mean, crazy.
Let's put that on the poll. Let's also recap some polls as we end our week here.
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Deep dives are terrifying.
I mean, they are.
They really are.
Sorry.
Tony, what do we got today?
The cup that South Florida values more.
Flanigans or Stanley and obviously,
Flanigans, the one for ribs, 92.6%.
Yours is better than his. Yours is a gacking is better than his yours the gaki is better than his the gaki where is Mike McDaniel on the MVP odds
Yes 63% as opposed to no 36% again where is Mike McDaniel in the mvp odds yes or no
Yes or no? You're trying to be Zagaki.
It's a serious conservative broadcast.
Do this.
Good God.
Do this.
Do this.
Very lovable.
Calling yourself a legacy fan.
Dan, I don't know if I can repeat this.
Dush.
Oh no.
92.9%.
No, Dush.
7%.
Here, my sorry.
Dush wins there by by astounding margin.
Reagan margins.
Is pop star, never seen it?
One of the greatest comedies of the last ten years, 65% of the audience says no.
Roy, take her head set away or hold her ears or something this is bad parenting at this point as a show
Here as a show not you as a show and she shouldn't be hearing some of this
Last poll here she'll say to mention it brought you by a dollar shave glove. Oh, you're absolutely right. She's gonna kill me
Can you find at least 2% of helpful advice
on the internet?
70.6% of the audience says yes.
Dan, those are the bowls brought to you by Dollar Shades Club.
Claire, what are your favorite three things about your dad?
That he loves a lot.
Wow.
Eee-hee-hee.
Wow. What else? Oh, wow. Three two more things. Okay. Eee-hee-hee. Wow.
What else?
What else?
I need two more things.
Okay.
Okay.
You have anything else?
What else is good about your daddy?
That's it.
Daddy plays with me.
Alright.
Yeah, I love Kyle's eyes.
The best.
Alright, Claire.
Claire, you are the princess and you're always the princess of ox.
And you run this place.
Penal penalty box.
Why two minutes Claire?
I'm sorry.
Get out of here Claire.
Oh, Claire.
Oh, Claire.
By yourself?
Claire, I have to walk you in there.
That's fine.
You can walk her.
You get out in the shoe.
She's your responsibility.
She deserves it though.
Claire, like, come on.
Claire, you came in here and you belched a screaming sound
and I need some professionalism around here.
It's also a $5.5.
She was better in the meeting.
I'm trying to run a media company here, Claire.
Get out of here.