The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Messi > Chicken Tenders

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

The crew describes what it was like to watch Leo Messi's first start with Inter Miami - where Pablo missed his first goal due to a chicken tender. Plus, do you hate it when someone shows you their pho...ne? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertar Show with this 2-Guts Podcast! Welcome back to the Dan Levertar Show. I was giving Pablo a countdown in his headphones, but he was like, Oh, my volume was way down. Yeah, you didn't know that we were starting with all the hubbub.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Oh, look at us. Yeah, we're live, Pablo. So do we want to talk about what we did last night? Yeah, why don't you take it away. Let pretend I just gave you a countdown like I just did and start the show properly. What a night. I didn't want to start this way because I actually feel like I am blessed when I visit
Starting point is 00:00:52 this city and get to hang out with you guys at games. I did this in April. I saw Jimmy Butler score a zillion points in the playoffs. And this time what Leo Messi is doing, it feels like what cryptocurrency promised us. It was like, oh, oh, Mike was right. Diamond hands should have believed from the start. We're going to the moon. Leo Messi's just going to do this every single time.
Starting point is 00:01:17 It's just a giant green arrow. Here's a sad of the day. Leo Messi is two goals away from being in the top 10 in club history and goals for Inter Miami. Look, it's been a tough, doesn't he have three goals? It's been a tough row to hoe for Inter Miami, even though they've made the playoffs twice in their three years of existence. But yeah, you may not have known that either. I'm a season ticket holder. Yeah. Well, the first year it was expanded because of COVID. But
Starting point is 00:01:48 Yeah, well, the first year it was expanded because of COVID, but the inner Miami have been really bad this year, really bad. They got off to an okay start and then they dipped in form because they had a bunch of injuries, we're starting a bunch of academy kids. And because for the last two years, they have been positioning this roster for this very moment. It's not like a finger snap and they just got messy here and we're off to the races. There was years and years and years of work and roster construction and eating fines and penalties. Some of the heaviest MLS is ever given because of the
Starting point is 00:02:18 Matswiti contract. That whole debacle because an owner in the ownership group narked on them. It's a whole thing. But they absolutely took a bunch of Ls with huge holes missing in their roster to make sure that they were positioned for this. And it seems to have worked out. You just provided a lot of complicated backstory, which I appreciate, none of which was necessary to appreciate what we saw last night.
Starting point is 00:02:42 That's kind of the thing about this story, is that you show up and you're like, oh, that guy, that is in fact the greatest player that has ever lived. And in fact, he is this much better than everybody else in the sport. Wittingham was texting me after the game as we can get into the post game, the pre-game,
Starting point is 00:02:58 all that stuff later, but just the sports of it, I do want to nerd out on because it just seems clear that the promised Mike, Chris, what we saw the promise of no one has been this good in this sport in America ever. And in fact, he's just gonna do the thing where he just scores goals whenever he wants, scoring the game winner on a free kick in his first debut.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And then just doing it on command seemingly, not once but twice. And then if you wanted to, it seemed however many more times that he wanted to. It's like he started a franchise mode in FIFA and he started on Easy. And he's like, I gotta make this more difficult. Because this is just like, I'm not having fun.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I wanted to have success, but now it's too easy. Three nothing, first half. It's like, I gotta turn this up to medium. That is a very talented Atlanta United side. You told me this. That was intermime. He's who I'll tell regal lead and franchise history. They won four zero on mother, the other reigning World Cup winner for Argentina on the opposite side of the field that nobody was really paying attention to Mr. P K. How about those fans leaving early though, just a bunch of jerks. You were one of them. You were one of them. And you lived closer to the stadiums. That's a bad look out.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Pablo left before Messi got to get out. We're knowing this already. Yeah, we're shaving each other. Pablo left for Uber purposes. I was just like, all right, Messi's gone. I think a couple of things about this experience. Number one, it turns out that drive-pink stadium is not in the Uber app. And so what you got to do is go to Google Maps and you put in driipink stadium and you pull out manually, and sometimes we often do,
Starting point is 00:04:33 the address that you then type in to the Uber app, and we did that, and we went there, and it was like a tire repair thing in Fort Lauderdale. And we were not alone because everybody, there's a procession of people in messy, like, Argentina, Jersey's walking sadly, pathetically, like the half hour
Starting point is 00:04:52 that was needed to go from the mistake in address to the actual arena, felt like a bit of an infrastructure issue. And it's super far from Miami proper. You can confirm now, which I think contextually as it's kind of gone viral not kind of it has the time lapse video of everyone leaving after messy gets subbed out in the 75th minute and people are using that to own folks.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I say Bravo for sticking through with that. I agree. I regret not. The stadium is super far and I say till the end mainly because I was invited guests by MLS. Thank you again, everybody for treating many of our show to that match. And also I've been a day one season ticket holder for this club. And I haven't seen many performances like that. And I wanted to relish in that performance.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And I didn't want to insult the people that put forth that performance by leaving once messy came out. However, that being said, I understand because I was in that parking lot for an hour after the game, all to make it out of that stadium and drive yet another hour to the populous center of Miami-Dade County. It's not easy getting there. And if you've seen some of the other matches in the league cup where there's like 215 people in the sands, I'd say maybe let's not dunk on Thorongs of people leaving after 77 minutes two weeks ago Jess was making fun of how this was a four-lotter-dale thing not a Miami thing and I was like, ah, she's just being snide and then I tried to get there and get home and I was like, oh, this is very very
Starting point is 00:06:21 Exactly what it is. I mean I was going to the game in an Uber and the left lane was a procession of about 20 cars, the site of which cost my driver to say, oh, that's messy. Yeah, you would, and I'm pretty sure it was. You would think with that struggle that you had getting to the match, you would sit in your seat and really appreciate the greatness early on,
Starting point is 00:06:44 but you missed messy's first goal for a chicken tender. A chicken tender. He hits me with, like, I think six or seven minutes into the game, he hits me with Chris when we break in the seal. I was like, Pablo, I already did. I got, I left early in order to make sure that the traffic was accommodated for. Under the assumption, I told Chris, I was walking, I was wandering around this building.
Starting point is 00:07:09 That's sort of not a building. Trying to make decisions on, and there's no line at this hamburger place. There's no line at this $14 hot dog thing. You gotta always investigate the suite before you make any purchases. But on my badge, it said field suite. And I said to myself, I'm a veteran of this game.
Starting point is 00:07:25 There's going to be stuff there. And I get there and I don't eat it. And I go outside and see the beginning of the game. I see Mike, I see Chris. I tell Chris, Chris, when you break in the seal, Chris informs me he already broke his seal. He's already eaten. And at that point, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:40 it wasn't awkward thing where there weren't a lot of people eating. No one was eating there. And that's the feeling of like, can I or can I? No one was eating because the match had started. That's why no one was eating. So what I did, and the food was inside away from the action where the greatest player ever was playing each soccer. What I did, what chicken tenses, was resemble the conventional wisdom that in no way is Leo
Starting point is 00:08:03 Messi just going to come out here and immediately score another God damn goal. Of course, I would have enough time to grab a chicken tender because I hosted four hours of God damn radio today and haven't eaten and Instead what I witnessed through the glass smudged by the 100 degree humidity is a scene unfolding That I sarcastically refer to as the history we were going to see is I was watching the caravan of secret service very literally Leo messy in the left lane through the traffic that everybody else had to wait through. And then I burst through the door and saw Chris Cody already with his phone out pointed at me laughing at the fact that I had missed actual history.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I wish I had video of you head down looking at the chicken tenders, hearing the roar and just the, oh no, the first look. I wish I just had that snapshot. I had never felt more like a sitcom dad. Or that gif of a guy who has like a bunch of pots and pans and he's like juggling, I literally was cursing to myself yelling, standing over a sterno can of admittedly delicious free high end field suite chicken tenders. What a great location we had for that goal to the celebration. We were in heaven right in front of us.
Starting point is 00:09:15 We got to paint the scene, Mike, because we were sitting at the most corner possible location right by the corner flag. Not a great place to see the entire game play out and plays develop. You're pretty much fixated on one side of the pitch, but first half goals, but first half goal is thankfully the toss broke our way and we got to see all the action. It was incredible. It was incredible. And the best part for me as somebody who does not regret the chicken tenders Because what happened shortly thereafter was Leo Messi just scored another goal and I got that and I was like, okay
Starting point is 00:09:51 You guys are just gonna have this in your life now. This is just what it's like to be a Miami sports fan now To be honest, he's seen one goal. You've seen him on poplar. You're good But he didn't see the first one. He saw one. He saw the other one. So he saw the first one too. Goals are different. And that's what. That's big. We're all one point. It's just long. Can we explain though why it is that Messi seemed to be completely uncovered and just
Starting point is 00:10:16 able to do whatever he wanted? Like what accounts for that? Well, I see there's been a lot of hyperbolic reaction. Oh, last place, inner Miami is just going to run through the league right now if they're doing that to Atlanta. Keep in mind, they needed a last second free kick winner against the last place in League of Mekis in their previous match. I do think it's going to be a little bit more difficult, but the main difference between
Starting point is 00:10:42 what happened against Cruza Zool and what happened against Atlanta United was Cruises' rule knew that that was the greatest player of all time and they threw three defenders at Messi. And still he dominated that match. Atlanta United decided they're just going to give Messi all the space he wants. Apparently. And you shouldn't do that. Okay. If they gave him that much space, he would have scored like five or six goals, right?
Starting point is 00:11:03 I mean, he only had two. He had two. Is he really that good? He had two and what to assist is, is he really that good? If he was really that good, they're winning this game like 10 to zero. Robert Taylor is going to get a finish call up. Like he, Robert Taylor is the real winner in all of this. Robert Taylor is good with the ball at his feet, but here's the thing about Robert Taylor if you're an inner Miami fan, he'll never pick his head up.
Starting point is 00:11:25 He just looks at the ground. But he was assisted on the second messy goal. Oh, dude, he had a worldie. Yeah. The ass and I take him. You've seen one goal. You've seen them all like Robert Taylor had an absolute worldie. But I had trick messy.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I just want to know who is the most thrilled person on intermiami's entire organizational chart right now the coach Coach of the year question mark. I mean it guys just on the sideline just smiling Eating basically eating chicken tenders. I'm not in kind of like I'm doing well so far I say whoever works for them that is making commission off of like ticket sales and deals. Their salary just went up like 300. No, the certified winner is the social media director that gets to put on his LinkedIn exponential growth. We went from 700,000 followers on social media to 15 million. Don Lebatard, few things feel better than when you're on a rollercoaster with no underwear.
Starting point is 00:12:24 No, did try it. A very weird observation by Stugat. You should try it. Don't knock it until you try it, Dan O. Stugat. You know what Stugat, I reconsidered my position. I have not tried it and so I won't knock it. Please explain to us in as much elaboration as you can why it's so wonderful to ride on
Starting point is 00:12:42 a rollercoaster with no underwear. Well, you just get that incredible breeze that you can only get when you're high up on a roller coaster and it's about to go down and when it goes down, oh, does it feel good? It's like air conditioning inside your shorts. It's amazing. It really is. This is the Dalé Batar show with Estougats. The business of Messi being in town is fascinating to me.
Starting point is 00:13:09 From sitting in the seats and being able to identify different shades of paper. For a lot of nails, town. Being able to identify, oh, that's a picture, is that a picture? You've already noted the bootleggers? Yeah. Well, I think one of my favorite things that I've witnessed so far on social media are all the local establishments that are using Messi's name, image and likeness to promote ribs and wings. Slow down on that one. Come on. No, there's like messy ribs. There's there is one Irish pub that straight up
Starting point is 00:13:40 Photoshop messy running with wings in his hand Photoshop messy running with wings in his hand. And there's another establishment that I free point. That's fair use. They can do that. That said, free point of beer every time messy scores two goals. And that one got bum rushed by folks. But I think the most curious part about this is, and I know Inter Miami have had plenty meetings with Adidas this week. And they've had meetings
Starting point is 00:14:06 with Byron Munich and Flamenco, and I don't know what the nature is of that. We know that there is an Adidas carve out for Messi in his deal. But one of the more interesting facets of Messi's deal is he's supposed to get a cut of new Apple subscriptions. And it's been reported, and I have not confirmed, it's been reported that his cut is more international subscriptions than domestic. I've seen reports that Apple had boasted it finally crossed the threshold where they can revenue share with the MLS clubs.
Starting point is 00:14:38 They had over one million subscribers. But messy, I don't know if you saw this on a social media, he is about 480 million followers. Every time you look up a famous soccer player social media following, it's like five times what an American intuitively would guess. Yes. They're the most popular people on the planet. They're the by far.
Starting point is 00:14:59 So this is a tweet I want to give Fabian Ranckel credit. Lionel Messi shares the MLS season pass link on his Instagram story for the very first tour, for the very first time. According to a recent report by Sports Business Journal, the MLS season pass already boasts nearly 1 million subscribers. If just 1% of Messi's 480 million followers decide to swipe up and sign up the subscriber base will expand to approximately five point eight million subscribers leo messi apple is in business leo messi because they're banking on the fact that leo messi
Starting point is 00:15:35 will turn the mls into his only fans account yes if just one person really only fans if just only one percent if just one percent of the people in a social media base, click that and subscribe. And Argentine, I believe this package is accessible to them. And yet, that the Martino, you had Almada, you had Messi, it was probably a big game down there. Their subscription base would have grown four to five times, four to five times in an Instagram post. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:04 It's, no Mike, it's the business model as we transition collectively into the creator economy, the subscription, on demand one to one sort of, you had me money because you're a fan of me dynamics. The question is, what would it be like if Leonardo DiCaprio had his own Patreon? What would it be like if the rock just started a sub-stack? This is the closest thing it gets to actually the top of that economy, which is what if Leo
Starting point is 00:16:28 Messi were to do that, but instead of sub stack is Apple TV. What if Chris Cody had an Instagram subscription? He never know. I do. It's great. How's that going? Slow burn. Slow burn.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So far the content you have is me cursing. No, that was for free about checking out. The good stuff I can't hide. I need everyone to see the good. You didn't put that behind the paywall. No, that was for free about checking out. The good stuff I can't hide. I like guys, I need everyone to see the. You didn't put that behind the paywall. No, unfortunately for Pablo, there were plenty of free places where you could see Pablo's earnest reaction. It wasn't embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It was embarrassing to note that people on the Apple TV, the aforementioned Apple TV global broadcast saw as soon as Leo Messi began to hug his teammates, adore swing open from a field suite out of which pops my head yelling about chicken tenders. See, that's why we pull out our phones. Like, in the moment, I'm always like, should I be in the moment here or pull out the phone, but then I wouldn't have gotten you
Starting point is 00:17:14 scurrying out with your chicken tenders. On my Instagram story is my view of that because I had started recordering, of course, when I burst out of the door trying to catch up, only to find that my camera was mostly capturing Chris, capturing me, all of us being captured by Apple TV's global television broadcast, potentially by billions of people across the world.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You could have made a better start for this whole thing, right? Mike, I keep on coming to Miami and thinking, like, this is a lucid dream for you guys. This can't, how can this get better? Can this be sustainable, right? Let's do that part of the story. He's doing stuff that is even for him beyond the pale. And like, where does he go from here?
Starting point is 00:17:56 What happens? How does the rest of the story proceed? And they're not nearly as strong as they can be. They're missing Gregory, they're missing Jean-Maut, they're Jordi Alba still trying to get a. Jordi Alba is still trying to get a, Jordi Alba is still trying to get a visa to come over here. So they're only gonna get stronger. And like I said,
Starting point is 00:18:12 that was a pretty good side that they just carved up with ease. I imagine teams are gonna step up, especially if they end up playing Santos in the next round. As we saw from the Cruises' rule match, I think Emma less seems are going to have to respect like this guy means a bunch of money to us. And maybe the officials will protect Messi in that respect. But the Mexican, the league of meckys seems don't have to respect that. And you're going to see a lot of shit. How's
Starting point is 00:18:37 are you? That's the question is whether respect means disrespect by physically like he's not like Messi is the greatest player. Maybe we've ever seen on this planet. He's also not the biggest guy. Obviously he's smaller than anybody else in this studio right now. Like do they just try and do the thing that everybody fears? I would like to revisit something from the first segment, which is you can't blame Miami fans for leaving early. Yes, you can. I finally have seen the video. The time lapse video that men and blazers posted of all the Miami fans leaving after Messi was subbed off. That is hilarious. It never ceases to amaze me the things that I see in the city. Well, for a
Starting point is 00:19:14 lot of days. Well, see, that's a thing. It's not in this city. And I told you first, I am like, I, it took me two hours to get home because I didn't take the opportunity to leave 12, 12 minutes early. That means most people stayed then. What are we doing here? Dude, it's also you sat in traffic. That means the bulk of the people stayed to the end. Why are we criticizing? There's traffic every minute of every day.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Not for me. Not for me. Not what I left in the 75th minute. I got right at it. I was probably only just too big pounded over it. By the time you got home, I was probably found to keep removed from my part for sure. And the time Chris got home, the game found the move from my part for sure. Uh, I was time Chris got home. The game was in like it's 88th minute probably.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I was on 95 and it was like, and that's it. But it does underscore what Jess is saying does underscore a larger reality of this, which is that this is a Leo Messi story. Right. Well, not yet an intermine. A mystery of like, well in the cup, and the cup competition, it's very clear to see granted. You see a lot of pinks, but it's certainly more messy fans than inner Miami fans.
Starting point is 00:20:09 100%. But there's again, when you see something like that, context needs to be applied. Those aren't inner Miami season ticket holders for the most part. They have first access to tickets, but this is a separate competition, which means whole new, whole new seats, whole new people in attendance. They're largely there for messy and don't love the club in the same way. That's not a knock. That's great.
Starting point is 00:20:34 They have the best attendance by far so far in this competition. This time lapse, this could be halftime. I don't see any time. I don't see anything here that shows when in the game. It is you have earned this reputation as a collective region in South Florida. I don't care who the fans were therefore. It is a funny visual. I'm going to laugh at it. And I'm going to use it against you at some later date after today. And in blazers, it's just as holy unfair because if you see any of the attendance and any of the other stadiums that are only American because
Starting point is 00:21:03 this competition is inherently racist. Well, that there's no one in attendance because they have to sell brand new tickets for these things. There are two follow ups I have to make. The latter one is the thing that Mike just mentioned. What are you talking about this competition being inherently racist? So there's three countries, two leagues, are any of the, how many times have you seen Monterey's stadium aggregated when it's a slow time in sports?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Beautiful stadium in Mexico with rolling hills behind it. Yeah, it seems like a nice facility. Why aren't they hosting? No Mexican host cities whatsoever for a competition between these two leagues. It also happens at a part in the calendar where it's in the middle of the MLS season. They're in peak form, peak fitness for the most part. And it's three matches into the Liga Meki season. So they're still working their way into fitness and form. It's not fair for the Mexican teams. If you watch historically
Starting point is 00:21:57 at any time Liga Meki's go up against MLS competition, predominantly Conca Caff Champions League were in the modern era only one MLS team has ever won that competition is dominated by Mexican teams. Leon, a Conca Caff Champions League finalist, they were sucking Canada for two days because flights to Los Angeles, a hub city were just canceled. It is, it is unfair and unfairly weighted in pro MLS side. But all of this underscores what this is, what these games are, which is to say, they're not MLS games. They're invented games for a tournament that is designed to grow
Starting point is 00:22:38 soccer in North America. And the question of, what are we watching here? It is kind of funny. When Stugots points out, they're still five and 14 because nothing statistically is being recorded that would change that fact. It has a little bit of the NBA play in round vibe where it's like, so these things were watching aren't actually being etched into stone. Where are these things going to matter from the historical record perspective? Well, I think Messi's presence in this competition is elevating it. It's the inaugural competition.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I can't get enough of it. There was so many wacky things happening in this. And you had Atlas, a Mexican club, tweet out a comparison between MLS members of the press and Hitler's chief property. That's right. Derbels. a comparison between MLS members of the press and Hitler's chief propaganda. That's right. Gerbels. Yeah, and they left the tweet up for days.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Can someone explain what that was and why that person feels so strongly about it? Like obviously bad take, but what's the backstory here? I've never seen a lot of frustration in that this is unfairly weighted in MLS's advantage. It's been reported that the total prize pot for this competition is $40 million into the winner.
Starting point is 00:23:53 $2 million goes. And that is a massive pot if you're an MLS player, particularly because that's money that most average MLS players will never see. So I do think that this competition is going to end up mattering because of the person that we're all talking about here, two segments in. We haven't uttered any other athletes name.
Starting point is 00:24:13 It's messy. And if they end up lifting the trophy, it'd be their first trophy in club history. And it would confirm all the casual fans' interpretation of the signing, which is plug in the best player in the world in maybe the league's 33rd, the world's 33rd best league, watch him dominate, and it's unfair. To that, I say, Miami did plenty of suffering to get to this point. And the notion that they don't necessarily deserve this, which I understand because they left early.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Jess could not stop grinning about this. It's been tough. It's been really tough if you're an inner Miami fan. And I say that, are you an inner Miami fan? I don't know who's out there. I'm glad welcome aboard. I'm just like, I'm just like, kind of, rechecking tenderism on any game you give me to. Don't let me part.
Starting point is 00:25:04 If you see a photo of fries, do you reach for it, not unlike a pigeon flying into a sliding classroom? Oh, I'm not kidding you. I have been tempted in restaurants, just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries. That hasn't happened to you guys! I've done it. You've done it to me. Have you done that thing on actual photographs where you try to zoom in on it with your fingers, and you just make a big streak across it a bigger fry Yes, I've licked my computer screen when it's on there. I love french fries
Starting point is 00:25:33 Still got who doesn't love french fries. I thought it I thought there's always someone out there I thought that was the one thing America could agree on I thought that that was the one place where every citizen in our country would indeed be united across the 50 states. DCC Danlebatar show with this two cats. But the theme, the storyline of last night was good vibes. I had a great time, thank you Mike for setting that up and the complaint that I heard. Well, that's above my pay grade.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I apologize. But I would have That's above my pay grade. I apologize. But I would have stayed till the 91st minute. I don't believe you whatsoever. I don't believe you at all. 90 second minute. The good vibes though were broken only by an I rate Chris Cody who did the thing that I have to follow up on now that I tease in the last segment, which is that he turns to me and he goes, the guy who shows his phone to you.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It happened right in front of us, and I was just like, this isn't productive. It's the move of, hey, look at this post, where it's just like a meme of something, something I have to read, or it's like, people do this with text messages a lot. Look at this person said, just tell me what they said. I don't wanna like read.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Anytime someone shows me a text conversation on their phone, I'm not actually reading it. I'm just nodding along, just nodding. Just tell me what it was. Admittedly, Tony, youtube.com slash levitator friends. What I would show you on my phone is what they just showed on screen, which is a grinning Chris Cody,
Starting point is 00:26:59 Captain on the Apple TV broadcast in the room. Look how happy I look. Maybe I am an intermigrant fan. In the, Wait Chris, look at this thing happy I look. Maybe I am an intermiami fan. In the... Wait Chris, look at this thing on my phone. Let me see. Oh. In the same vein with somebody shows you something
Starting point is 00:27:10 on their phone and it's a video, nothing's worse than they click the video to see how much time is left. Oh, that thing. On that video and you're like, That is... This is a no-minute half. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And then you say, if you move over, this part's good. This part's good. No, no, right here. This is part we have to listen. The only thing, a picture, that is the only acceptable thing to reach across and show me something. It has to be of your dog or your kid. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I don't want to see any fizzies of those. I don't want to see any lakes. Just kids or dogs, that's it. What's your go-to response when someone shows you a kid or a dog? Adorable. Cute. Cute. A real satisfying exchange. kids or dogs, that's it. What's your go-to response when someone shows you a kid or a dog? Adorable. Oh, cute.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Cute. Okay. A real satisfying exchange. In the like 80s, 70s, 80s, 90s, didn't people used to come home from vacation and do like put like their photos on a projector and show the whole room? Oh, but I think I saw that in Matt. Yes, the carousel.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I used to do that. My grandfather, the real time in, he to do that. My grandfather, the serial timing, he had a projector. My grandfather had one also. And like, I guess you'd invite your neighbors over and be like, look at our trip to the Grand Canyon and you'd be like, here's also at the Grand Canyon. Here's another photo of us. Is that it? Is that it? That was, that was a thing. And it lay out the wine coolers and people would have themselves in evening. I mean, it was Instagram before Instagram. It's like, hey, come check out my feed.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Look how cool my trip was. Yes. Except you can only see it one time and you're also forced to watch. Well, so remember extended vacations back before cell phones. You never knew if someone was coming back to the office. You never knew if they were alive until they returned two weeks later and you're like, oh, thank God, how was it? You just had no idea.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Every time. That's like, Stu got's now. That is very much like, where is he? That's a good question. It's just never productive. It has been very lonely back here. These exchanges are never productive. You never say to somebody, hey, someone showed me this great text chain today.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And here's what I learned in it. I think what I do is I just send it to them, and they can read it or watch it. Screenshot they're fine. But I don't show anyone anything from my own phone, especially because you don't know if someone's gonna text you and then the preview is on, and then they're like reading your texts. It's very awkward.
Starting point is 00:29:15 If it's on your camera roll, old people love to swipe, no swiping on my phone. Just hand it back to me on the same photo I showed it to you on. So now I just, I'll, if I have something I want to share with someone, I send it to them and I'm like, look at this whenever you have time. If you have to keep your arm extended for more than three seconds on a showing of a phone, it's too long, it's too much, I don't want to see it. It's a quick show, that's it.
Starting point is 00:29:38 If I can see it real quick, that's good. Everything back before the smartphone used to feel like what is now a very popular YouTube genre, which is the unboxing video. Everything was a surprise. Everything was inside of this thing is a thing we don't know about yet. Is it good? Is it bad? Everything was like that.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It carousel, a photo, sending your photos to the drugstore to get them developed. Binding out. Is my coworker alive coming back to work? Everything had this element of delight and now we're at the point where we just find surprises so often that Chris Cody only has the tolerance for three seconds in person of that. Top's preferably one. But if you're scrolling on your own phone, you're looking at it for a long amount of time. I assume it's just if you're looking at someone else's phone. Right. For sure.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Because your own phone, you'll scroll through other people's vacation photos on Instagram for hours. You know what I miss saying? Look how big you've gotten to kids because I used to go months without seeing them, but now I see their growth in development every day on social media. And it doesn't surprise me how big they've gotten. I miss that. I miss being surprised by how big they've gotten. I hate when someone has one of those things where it's like scroll through 10 pictures and the 10th pictures the best picture. Like what are you doing here? Oh, Instagram usage has devolved into like several different types of things now. There's like the photo dump people. I'm a photo
Starting point is 00:30:59 like. Here's everything I do. Here's a gallery of everything that I do every day in a row for the rest of eternity. There's those people that are just posting constantly. And then there's people that will just use Instagram. It's still like 2012. And they'll be like, here's my avocado toast. Right, a single. Very weird.
Starting point is 00:31:18 There's no one between. There's no one between. There's no one between. There's no one between. The photo dump people I'm with you Chris. Sometimes I'm like, how did you choose what your first photo was? How should I choose what my first photo is? It should be your best photo.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It should grab my attention. But don't I need to, but this is kind of like how do I, how do I swipe? But this is kind of like how do I structure a story? You want a great lead with that kicker. You need to give them a reason to like it to the end, right? The question here is, what picture should be better? Picture five or picture 10?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Obviously you want to come out strong with number one. We can all agree on that. But are you putting, are you finishing strong? Are you going in order? So it's like number two is the second best. Dude, I got it. I got to keep you hooked. You're like five is, ooh, five is intriguing.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But then I'm six and seven. You don't want to get predictable where I'm tailing out. If by number three, I'm like, okay, this is clearly getting worse. That's the problem though, is that sometimes they're not getting to just said to number five, and I'm like trying to tell a story of like, oh, but if you sort of like view these in the order, I, it's a journey.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Designed it, like see these episodes in the order, I produce them, and you will notice that I am doing artistic sort of through lines through this. There's a narrative unfolding. You produce that, you're going in there, you're tapping. I'm trying. You're tapping. I'm trying. You're tapping them in order.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Like, now I gotta go back. But some people aren't getting to five. I just like an idiot with a photo. Is it Instagram for a Pablo? Is it for your friends and family? Is it for your fans? Is it for brands to be like, oh, we want to pay for him to post something with our logo on it?
Starting point is 00:32:39 That's what mine's for. Roy's a photo. I don't even know anymore. Roy, what's your strategy? I just don't know. I post single photos, except for the last one, I just post one photo at a time and it's usually clear. That's my number.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's multiple photos. You've seen some photo dumps from you. Wow. No. I'm on to you. No, I'm gonna investigate this. You go ahead and do that. How are things going on, Blue Sky?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Shit sucks. Honestly, it is like Twitter, but without the weird porn bots and like the weird super toxic reply guys, but it's still like we're still not there yet Like I'm still not skidding. I'm tweeting. Yeah, I'm not skiing. That's what they went with. I'm threading. I'm still a thread head But no one's threading. It's it's dead. Please come back. No, we need like a real spit. How many photos to be considered a photo dump? And the thing is threads is so great for a photo. You just did three in his last post every threat that I see About how ozempic is dangerous now. Stomach paralysis seems bad. Oh, wow. Wow. What? Who could have seen that coming? I mean, there are some people that look great. I consulted a doctor, and if I get ozemic face, I'll just get filler.
Starting point is 00:33:46 What does Stomach paralysis mean? A paralyzed stomach. It seems scary, but seems like what you had already. Can we explain ozemic to people who I think have only maybe overheard it while skipping faster, like a real martial. There's commercials in it now. It's everyone knows what it is now. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:34:02 I see commercials for ozemic on Hulu, on YouTube TV. Yeah, it is now. Is that right? I see commercials for Ozentpik on Hulu, on YouTube TV. Yeah, it's mainstream. But it makes you, I guess the point is it makes you not want to eat. Makes you feel fuller, longer, and it ruins your appetite, which is why I've made the conscious decision to not start it until after my European vacation. So your scare tactics have worked. But there are plenty of people in my space that have good things to say about it. I'd say consult your doctor and act responsibly, as I did,
Starting point is 00:34:30 because I was pushed by my vanity. Like, there's no way your doctor was like, yeah, you're a candidate for this. There's no way. I mean, Tony, I've, you were in the Iron Temple together occasionally. I hear you brother. I play, I play healthy guy. Look at you, you're very healthy guy. I wait, well, thank you. And there's no way your doctor's like, you know what? Yeah, you need, you need, you need those employees.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I'm like, Mike, Mike, you got so big. I have gotten big, and it's a lot of mass, but let me see that thing. Mass kicks ass. Like, yeah. The boost is a little bigger. And I'm Cuban, I have multiple seas in that day.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I'm Latino, so I sash my fat and my chest and my butt, which is fine if you want to carry weight, but look, I started this anti-incity medicine. I was at, how is that going? Is that going on? That has been a godsend, but it did have a side effect that I was warned about when I did it and my mental health situation was such
Starting point is 00:35:22 that I accepted the consequences, and I welcomed them. But now that I am feeling better, and I am in consultation with my doctor to wean myself off, and I'm on a program to get off, because the reason why I gravitated to the Lexipro was that I could one day get off of it and not be dependent on it for all my life, like some of the other medicines I were out there.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Now I'm trying to get my body back, my pre-lexipro body back. And I find it hard because of lexipro. I've been working hard, I've been doing the intermittent fasting, I've been changing my diet. Could I do better in all these facets? Yeah, but the weight that I've gained does not correlate with the amount that I've been
Starting point is 00:35:58 maybe living in excess the occasional weekend. It doesn't match up. I've gained 25 pounds on it. My favorite part of what you said is intermittent fasting. Because I too have been intermittently fasting. And by that, I mean, I discovered that there's a term people use now for when you forget to eat breakfast. Because you're working too hard. Because you're working too hard. Yeah, I don't eat breakfast and I tried to, during the week, I'm mainly a one meal guy, or if there's lunch here,
Starting point is 00:36:25 I'll just go protein on it, but it's just not, it's not working for me. And I've tried the exercise, and I've tried the diet, and the cold pharmaceutical hand of Ozempic to paralyze the stomach. I need my stomach paralyzed. I need my stomach paralyzed to get there.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And naturally the cyclical nature of prescriptions in America or I'll probably need something for what Ozempic does to me. You're stacking. More than likely filler. So I'm very required to have more than likely filler, but look, this is a very transparent with my pursuit of perfection.
Starting point is 00:36:54 By the way, that red button that I imagine is glaring because of that sound. Is anyone else here in that, or is it just me in my head? Does she play through it, man? Okay, very good. Well, in hindsight, when the fire alarm went off on Monday, we ended up being fine, right? So it's a good data point to have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Every time they warn us that certain doom is impending, like, we skate so far. So far. Yeah. Which is doing wonders for my show. I'm pretty sure that philosophy has served the city of Miami and Fort Lauderdale well when it came to developing infrastructure for all sorts of things Stating was far right it was really far they apologize the kind person who ferried us into the building apologized It's like look this is in our actual stadium
Starting point is 00:37:34 You're not allowed to weigh in on social media if you haven't made that drive from Miami-Dade County to the drift pink I can do whatever I want I know what drift pink is by the wayift Pink. I can do whatever I want. Should I know what Drift Pink is, by the way, by now? It's an auto-nation, cancer initiative. They give to it's drug-pink. That sounds half like a thing that is a real organization that I should be proud of.

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