The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Mushrooms Are Like A Lazy River

Episode Date: June 27, 2023

Where is everyone...? Stu went to 6 Grateful Dead shows in 9 nights, and he looks better than ever. David and Stu share their polar opposite experiences with mushrooms. Then, Mike Ryan steps forward f...or a segment to discuss the most recent reports on Damian Lillard and some more thoughts on how the UM baseball coaching search worked out. Plus, we rehash David's celebration over taking advantage of Bob Ross and Mike is hustling backward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertor Show with the Stugat's Podcast. Metal art media has arrived at the summer on its hands and knees, battered and beaten by sports the last Two and a half months. I don't know where everyone is I know David Samson a very sick David Samson has been called in as we heard yesterday on contingency plan and heroically on a white stallion Stugots has rushed into the breach to rescue us
Starting point is 00:00:47 after what are you smiling about Billy? Well, because Stugots looks the healthiest of the bunch. Thank you. Like everybody here in the studio at the company Stugots is that's not a compliment. Of everybody here. It is for me. For me.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I think he lost weight somehow on this trip. Like he looks great. There is no way I lost any sort of weight. For me. I think he lost weight somehow on this trip. Like he looks great. There is no way I lost any sort of weight. I mean, I appreciate the compliments. I'll take them because it's been a while since I've gotten that around here. But there is no way. In fact, I'm guessing I gained five to 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I feel, listen, I might look good. I feel horrible, horrific, terrible, six dead shows at 50 years of age in nine nights. You were at six six shows in nine. Yeah. What did you do the other three nights? Drugs, I mean. Well, this is why he looks fresh and this is why he's arguing on behalf of his Jets quarterback,
Starting point is 00:01:41 Aaron Rogers, who's actively promoting psychedelics now. And still got his has his quarterback. As soon as Aaron Rogers gets to the jets, they both go into a psychedelic spin, not knowing what reality is anymore. I'm glad you brought up psychedelics because I got to tell you, Dan, I don't know the last time you did mushrooms, David, the last time you did shrooms. I'm assuming, I'm assuming the last couple of months both of you did so i've never done shroom really you're missing out
Starting point is 00:02:10 uh... even the chocolates i've never done any kind of shroom are you saying that cuz we're live on the air no i i don't mind telling you i've had clinical ketamine so that's up that's up that's like all yeah i mean that's up but that's not a psychedelic that's like a horse tranquilizer. It's a very serious drug. Can you get me some? I don't mind admitting to what I've used. I've just never done acid. No, it's not acid.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I've never done acid either. Acid is LSD. Shrooms are natural. Okay, I haven't done that. What I'm saying, Dan, is shrooms have changed. And I don't like it. Okay, because now you have like these micro doses, I had friends who were shrooming at the shows
Starting point is 00:02:48 and they're taking micro doses and it's the perfect mushroom and the perfect trip. No. You know what the perfect mushroom and the perfect trip is? Just take a bunch of caps and stems and throw them in your mouth. That's what you do. I don't need micro dosing.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I don't need the perfect trip. You let the LSD take you where it takes you. It's like a lazy river. And you don't fight the LSD. I don't care what it is, okay? I don't need a micro dos, I don't need the perfect trip. Sometimes you have a great trip, sometimes it's a bad trip.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Don't fight the LSD if you do. You'll wind up in the hospital. But that's the beauty. That is the beauty of tripping out. You never know where it's gonna take you and you just don't fight it. I don't need microdosing. I don't need the perfect trip.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I don't need any of it, okay? I need caps, I need stems, I throw them in my mouth, occasionally a tab acid. I did it one time in Amsterdam and I took copious notes. You did. I wrote down how I felt every six minutes I charted how I felt I wrote down ideas. That's weird. Have those. I do on you. I do have them. Can we go through? Of them on no not at the moment. I'll tell you why please bring them back
Starting point is 00:03:57 I like at some point I'd like to write full through the Redful thing to do while I was on acid. I mean, it was mushrooms. Not acid. Okay. And I had amazing ideas for the Marlins. And the highlight idea was, when you read this sober, you will not think this is a good idea, but I promise you, it's a really good idea. Signed John Baker. It was so bad.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Wait a minute. What we've got going on here is that when Stugantz takes mushrooms, he just gets lazier. Going down the lazy river. When Samson takes mushrooms, he starts bars and charts and what he's going to solve and just maniacal bookkeeping. That is exactly what I did. It's weird. I have points on a graph of how I felt at different points
Starting point is 00:04:47 and what I was thinking. You were charting your feelings. I was charting everything. So you went into a beforehand saying, like, let me set up the chart so I can kind of keep track of how the evening goes or. Because I was nervous, I'd never done it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And so I was told at the store, do not do it until you're back at your hotel. But we said, forget it. We took the heads and the stems, then we walked. That's how you do it. And then every bridge looked alike, and we had to pull into a store because first you get really stoned
Starting point is 00:05:13 before you start doing what you're doing. And I had a freak out. And once I had the freak out, I said, I better start charting. And that calmed me. And then I produced this amazing content about what happened during my trip david why do you go every six minutes like always the thought process behind that
Starting point is 00:05:29 because i wanted ten points per hour so i want to have an idea how i was doing incrementally you guys laugh but that's what gets a stadium built and also makes him one of the strangest people in the universe that he would go to a crazed accounting that his trip, the way that he would lose control is by trying to grab a notepad and control. I'm going to diligently write something every six minutes
Starting point is 00:05:58 so that I control this out of control high and allow it to have no joy whatsoever. I have a question for Stugots that I've always kind of wondered. Sure. There's a couple of things here, right? Because you're talking about all the shrooms you did and all this stuff, right? It's weird to me because you, behind the scenes, and this is betraying a little bit, get very upset when we talk to you, or we mention that you smoke cigarettes, because you're
Starting point is 00:06:23 like, I don't want my kids to hear that I smoke cigarettes, but you're like more than happy with I'm doing shrooms and acid. I didn't do shrooms, Billy. I'm telling you my friends did shrooms and they microdose and I'm telling them, hey, that's not how you do shrooms, okay? Here's how you do shrooms. You take caps, you take stems, you throw them in your mouth, and you don't worry. And you don't fight it like Samson, because when you fight it, that's when you have a bad trip.
Starting point is 00:06:49 You might have a bad trip, but don't fight it. Don't enable it. You have a good trip, you have a bad trip, and occasionally you have business trips. And that's what I just had to know you are getting exposed. I mean, I just got blessed football. I mean, six and nine nights just drug debts of tickets drug dad of his mind. Well, no, he wasn't his friends were his friends. Yeah, his friends. Yeah, you're expensing the actual tickets to the show. Yeah, yeah, under what theory is that
Starting point is 00:07:14 content? I mean, are you expensing the stems? Yes. Because the content has just been you again, again, giving a life philosophy of just throw them in your mouth and Don't care about anything which has basically been your entire life Exactly that's the way you have to live life Dan. That's what you do Don't fight anything David the reason he'd have a great trip. It was not a great trip There's no way you had a great trip. It was amazing. No, it was I loved it. It's my landing with you were writing I had a bumpy landing because as as you know, you don't know because you have never done it.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So you never done it. No, I've done it. I have done it. Just not during the dead shows for six times. I did do it six and nine nights. Did you do it four times in nine nights? I did it three. Three.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So there it is. So then that's my follow up question. Is your daughter was with you on this trip. So like how do you expect? Part to the trip. You went to the shows with your daughter to the how do you explain what's going on there? Part to the trip, okay? I went to two in Saratoga, two in city field, two in Fenway.
Starting point is 00:08:11 My daughter was only there for, my daughters were only there for two of the six, okay? You're a better father than I am, and you're tripping with your kids. I know I'm not huts, I didn't do it in city field. I need to figure out a better plan because what I'm doing is not work. Just life, just every day.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Take more photos. Maybe one plot every three minutes. It's supposed to every six. As the one who is in charge of wrangling stugots, the one who doesn't like that at Metal Lark, he continues to get blamed for Stugots' expense accounts. Can you please tell me whether you've noticed in God bless football for Stugot's expense accounts. Can you please tell me whether you've noticed
Starting point is 00:08:45 in God bless football that after years of doing this over the summer, you have a host, Kimao. He's shocked. I was shocked that our plan was to do a show last Friday morning after there was a city field Wednesday night show that I knew he went to. Right. Yeah, he was so proud of it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 He was so proud of it. He was so proud of it. He was so proud of it. He. He was so proud. He was so proud. He was so proud. Yeah. But is he fried? Is what I'm asking you? Do you see examples of... He looks fresher. I'm telling you, this is the freshest I've seen him in months. I don't know if it's a shave. I don't know what it is, but he came in. Maybe he got your clothes bigger, like something's different. Like a little sun maybe. It looks a little looser. Like you look relaxed and refreshed and I was surprised
Starting point is 00:09:25 because everyone is struggling here like everybody sick. It takes some time off go to some dead shows take some shrooms you'll feel great. It's kind of like Aaron Rodgers right he looks a little bit more refreshed now in New York something something this is his spirit animal man. This is one of the things I did not have happening at the beginning of the pandemic. Stugots his quarterback is going gonna be a kindred spirit somehow. They're both going to be doing huge amounts of psychedelics. That's two friends will be.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah, just my friends friends like Aaron Rogers. Three times and nine nights. That's it. Stugots more like a coach. Like he coaches everybody else. Hey guys, you're not doing that right. You're not doing this. I am a drug coach.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. Yeah. DC. So welcome coach. Yeah, yeah. DC. So welcome back, Sioux Gantz. I can't even, how does this work? I don't understand. When you're scheduling him, does he just say it? Like I'm gonna, I'm going to dead shows, and I'm experiencing it.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I'm just trying to get the lay of the land so I can figure out what changes need to be made. So I'm just trying to understand how is the interplay? Does he do it through an automatic calendar? Oh his schedule or does he call you directly? Well, what you said so much that we have a show to do. What's the really you have noticed that Samson is trying to tighten things up around here You've seen the breakfasts have gone to shit because he's he's made things a lot cheaper. He are you gonna actually This is the way. This is the way we laugh just like putting the bread. So sad.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Back up on the screen. And it looks like it's yesterday's bread. That is yesterday's bread. No, it's not. It is. Look, what's happening around here is offensive as he cuts costs in a difficult media time. And I believe it's possible that this expense account might
Starting point is 00:11:05 go across Samson's desk. I did take the fruit loops and put them in my backpack. I need some food. You're stealing from the company is what? What? You are stealing like Lewis taking green pringles? We had fruit loops. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:22 You went into one of these Kitchen you went into it for packaged So wait you guys are stealing from the company stealing food stealing drugs Supply There was there was there was For a while there was Not yeah, I was in drugs. What? C.D. for a while there was that was not yeah, I was in drugs. What? As a sponsor. I
Starting point is 00:11:46 thought that that oh a part of that is they gave everyone drugs. There were gummies. There were sleep gummies. Definitely. I wasn't even talking about. There are gummies. Yeah. I'm talking about the stems that Stugots put in an
Starting point is 00:11:57 expensive account. It seems we're buying him drugs. Thank you. We need to do better. We're going to do better collectively because I do better collectively because we can get rid of breakfast and just make it all stems and heads with some lettuce we should just do a show with stugots you know doing it before his friends do it seeing where the lazy river takes it oh god why shouldn't we do that I'll chart it Oh, God. ¿Por qué no lo hicimos? ¡No me he echado! But the most terrifying thing is not to know what to trust. Be aware of the people who ask you to look at it. If you want to follow the path. Birdbox Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:12:50 A foreign Netflix, the 14th of July. You dare to know. Don't let a tart! Could I interest any of you in an opportunity to make money? Where I buy some calling cards and I sell them to you and then you get three friends and then you're making money off the ones they sell. Ah, I'm illum. Stougats and he's paying to me.
Starting point is 00:13:13 The more friends, the more you make friends. I'm illum. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stougats. There's anybody driving sportsbook, one of America's top-rated sports book apps, Draft King's is all kind of ways to get in on the action, including same-game Parley's props, live bedding, and so much more. Use code Dan when you sign up for the Draft King Sportsbook app to check it out. We'll get to Damien Lillard in a second, and also we'll get to what's happening at
Starting point is 00:13:43 the University of Miami and the College World Series. And we'll get to it because a Mike Ryan who has stepped back wasn't even supposed to be in today. He just came in and started shouting takes at the room because he's got opinions on Lillard and University of Miami baseball. Because it's a, we just saw another Florida team go to the championship round and another
Starting point is 00:14:07 Florida team loses. All we do is finish second place in Florida. We get there though. We get there though. It's kind of like that coming here, man. We get there is they keep arriving at the championship round and then only getting far enough to hurt the absolute most. Good news for college football fans, though. One of your Florida teams is making the
Starting point is 00:14:29 college football playoff. They're not going to win it, but at least they're going to get there. Is that good news? And is that you don't know that at all? It's going to say based on what? Just based on the run. Yeah. All of Florida, making championships, losing, isn't that what we're talking about? That was a little peppy. It was a little. It was. It was. Yeah, I don't understand. You're, so you're saying because all the other teams have won then, of course, we're entitled or due to all of the teams guaranteeing a Florida college football program that he's guaranteeing one of them will be in the final four. That's always doing.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Book of Dano. Yep. I spent a lot of time last night very frustrated about something regarding you and your fandom and then it happened again yesterday and now you're talking about it today and I'm just done There's 28 markets right now that would kill and die to be Miami. They kill and die. That's why I was peppy kill and die and all you're doing is saying like you have this mic Sure complex. Oh, do it in the finals. Get to win the finals. You know what? Getting there is impossible. CBS did a graphic about how disappointed Florida fans must be what a tough run it's been. And they showed all the teams and all the finals they've gotten to, but then lost them. And I wanted them to do a graphic of all the teams that haven't sniffed the finals. Why can't you be happy?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Positivity from David Sampson, the face of corporate greed isn't that nice that he's absolutely right, but the climate that we have created, just to God's, let me read to you just something that made me laugh yesterday and what is basically our life in sports as things get prouler and prouler. I'm watching Michael Thomas of the Saints, amazing athlete, and we've watched over the last few years. Holy shit, the athleticism on these fields is nuts. Michael Thomas for the Saints has made a lot of money and they're just showing him deadlifting five hundred seventy five pounds a wide receiver. And yes, Billy, you've made a face unnecessary. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Hold on a second. You'll be not first with whatever the jokes are at Michael Thomas doesn't play as expense because I have the list. And show him running a slant. I, yeah, well, here you've got all the cliched jokes. Here we go. Ready? Because you guys got in fast with what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:16:45 plagues the industry and plagues with general cruelness, a culture of you either win or everyone else's losers. It's not you finish second place. Everyone else, you're all losers because only winners get to at the end be celebrated. So Michael Thomas, amazing athlete against all odds, made it to a crazy contract and you're looking at athletic end be celebrated. So Michael Thomas, amazing athlete against all odds made it to a crazy contract and you're looking at athleticism from him.
Starting point is 00:17:08 He and Drew Pries were as unstoppable a thing as there's been. He's doing 575 and here are the comments one after another out for the season after this. And that's just to run a slant and go on IR. 575 is the number of games he's missed. Who? That was all stew. L S when I'm in that.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I wish. That's not it. Hispanic scenes for that. That's not in there. Saints are going to be scary for the first three weeks. That's Nick Chubbs warm up for squat. It is. Out 12 games next year with a toe injury. All that to do slant. More pounds than he has yards in the last three years. All this to all this to play a total of 575 seconds.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Guessing this will be the reason he's on the public. Come late August. Ah, the public. Not sure how that's going to help him catch more on slant routes. You want me to stop? Are you skipping any good ones? And still, he'll miss 14 games this season. Honestly, though, I'm asking you when you ask me why is it second place good enough because of that because that's where sports fans live in her title than her
Starting point is 00:18:33 addicted to when interacting with the games. That's a guy who had a great year, a couple of the great seasons signed a big time contract. I don't know how money and hasn't played since. that's where that frustration is also fantasy some of you took him and you don't think he's human he's just numbers on a page in your mad at him could it be that everyone's just concerned about him i mean someone who deals with foot injuries ankle injuries her nia is like pay maybe not so much weight and the other thing is david and will get to a lurky. I could smell Mike Ryan out there because Damien Lillard
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yesterday we got 24 hours of the Histionics agent publicly meeting with general manager can't do any of this privately can't just do a meeting with a phone call all of the stuff Has to be leaked so it looks like unrest so that it looks like Damien Lillard might want out. He gets 24 hours of the attention cycle because we move right from, you finished in second place to a week later, who are you gonna get for me next?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Because second place isn't good enough. I want, I want Damien Lillard in Miami. And, you know, Sam Amick and credible reporters, Chris Haines was a bit of a mouthpiece for Damien Lillard yesterday, they went out of their way to say, they're a serious interest from Damien Lillard in Miami, going into a meeting with a GM
Starting point is 00:19:53 where he's trying to exert power over the GM. I led nothing personal with this topic. That's how much it bothered me and the GM had a statement after the meeting about the great dialogue and how committed we are to winning with them and Talking about roster construction and it's just offensive to me No GM I never had one meeting with the player to talk about roster construction never
Starting point is 00:20:15 Not one and a player walks in and says hey, we need some relief pitching Hey, we're not happy with Bell right now. Just get out of the office basketball is different. Oh play basketball That level of empowerment is that's the problem. Okay. And it's not working for teams, but that wasn't the point of why you should be more happy. It, I agree there's one winner, there's one champion in the rest loose,
Starting point is 00:20:38 but as a community what Miami has had, it's special. It doesn't happen often. And you've had it, you've had it you've had it for decades here with the heat starting their first title was 06 the Marlins 97 call it 26 years of championships here in Miami and Mike Ryan is here to tell you that Dame Dollars a loser oh he's a big loser. Favorite player in the league, but he's going to be 33 years old. And if this path continues, it's a career wasted. It really is.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Is it? Yeah, because he won't be remembered. They mean Lillard. They'll be the hall of fame, right? They mean Lillard won't be a name that rings eternal without an appearance in June. It won't be. He's one of the greatest shooters we've ever seen. And he's not even thought of that way. that rings eternal without an appearance in June. It won't be. He's one of the greatest shooters we've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And he's not even thought of that way. He's not thought of as the best point guard in his generation, because he plays in the same generation as Steph Curry, much better shooter than him. Mike, I think most people acknowledge and even he's given voice to I'm the second best shooter ever. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:42 Damien Lillard gets credit as being exceptional at shooting. Yeah, I mean, Clyde Drexler, I remember, but I think he's in that, he's in that tier. I think it's a very good comp and that Clyde Drexler was an excellent two guard and he played in a great era of two guards and he's not one of the first 15 names that come to mind. I think he made the drape team, Mike.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's admirable. What Damien Lillard is doing, but this is a legacy play too. I mean, Jeremy Grant and Dremon Green, you're not getting the credit that you think that you're getting. If you come to Miami, I know they made it to an NBA finals,
Starting point is 00:22:19 but this was an A&C. He's got to get the credit. He's got to be respected. He's got Kevin Durant on the warriors where Stugat will keep rings away from him, I know that. Okay, but just to inform the audience of the most recent developments because Lillard is the words coming out of that meeting,
Starting point is 00:22:38 hey, this is a tense crossroads. Lillard's never done this before. It's never seen that Lillard's one of the guys who wants out and in that meeting,ard's one of the guys who wants out. And in that meeting, what he's getting the promise of is, we'll get in the Dremont sweepstakes. That's not much of a promise. It's also not enough.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I mean, Jeremy, Jeremy, and Dremont, and at this age in his career, that's playing talk. That's not a championship competitor. That's not that's not a championship competitor. That's that's not a championship threat. I don't I mean, God bless him. I like watching him, but it's it's it's really unfortunate that he doesn't get to play marquee games. I do understand why he would want to play with Dremond as his two man game with Steph is arguably the best offensive
Starting point is 00:23:24 threat in the league and Dame has some of those similar skills. It's the same reason Dame would want to play with a player like Bamada Bio. So you look at Miami, it's another option. I think he's trying to find someone who can, he can play off of that, that creates more offense for him. But what it feels like in Portland more than anything is these are, it's like two people who have been married for a long time and
Starting point is 00:23:45 for whatever reason, their lives are going separate directions, they both know it, but they love each other and they just don't want to end it. I mean Portland and Dame both have this affinity for each other, he loves the fan base and it's just one of those things where nobody wants to be the one to make that call. So they're trying to find a way to make it work. Dreymon Green is getting pregnant to save a marriage. Sure. That they still love each other. They know they're headed toward divorce,
Starting point is 00:24:11 but let's try and bring more pressure. You know what I think is going to make things less volatile in Portland? Dreymon Green. That's funny, right? So, as playing, welcome to Miami, like his version of cheating on his team so that that ends the matter well one of the things in the like trap on instagram i want to get caught doing something wrong to get out of this version of liking uh... a thirst trap billy you tell me if uh... tyler heroes not hurt by what jimmy butler is doing
Starting point is 00:24:41 flirting with damian lily or. Well, Tyler here is hurt, period. Mm-hmm. Yes. And you don't think Tyler Hero is hurt by Jimmy Butler publicly flirting with the guy that would be traded out of town in order to bring Damien Lillard? I don't know, Tyler Hero. He seems like someone that just kind of like is there.
Starting point is 00:24:58 He's happy every two weeks. Right. He's happy to be in the league. Yeah, Tyler seems like someone that won't let these things get to him too badly. I don't know I mean, he'll go to the blazers and average 38 points again on like 27% shooting who cares me Tyler here up Please at Damien Lillard is a major upgrade over Tyler here. You would agree right? I mean Damien Lillard walks into the key franchise as it's best player if he gets traded here.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Ever? No, no, no, it's best player on the roster right now. It's better than Jimmy Butler and he's better than Bams. So he right now, if he remains in Portland, is not thought of as an all time great and is kind of forgotten. But if he comes to Miami, he's a legend. Well, because he'll do the winning. He'll be playing the meaningful games. That's really great analysis
Starting point is 00:25:49 Games in June Unless he becomes a winner by coming here. Yeah, well he become a winner by coming here I'm right I don't understand what what are they? What are they laughing? I'm right. I don't understand what are they laughing at. I actually kind of agree. Okay, no, he's got to do what he's doing in Portland in Miami. What are you laughing at?
Starting point is 00:26:13 You don't think that they're a threat in the east if they mean that they're comes to Miami? We're laughing at you, Mike. No, I get it, but on what merit? Please don't change what their legacy is depending on whether they work their way into the heat uh... no they change a legacy on whether or not they play an NBA finals but he could make the finals with the trailblazers to
Starting point is 00:26:35 no what you never have no he's not going to like that's the point that mike is making no he can't it they can't do anything it's pretty clear that if he stays there it's to end his career not winning it's he's not he's not going to win there uh... as a contract he has two years and ninety three million left
Starting point is 00:26:56 and you guys are talking about oh of course he has the right to walk the david he's not going to win there like saying he would have a chance at winning here with this team in this organization You just don't owe him that I've never understood that part of basketball where a star can just decide I don't want to be here anymore and the team almost always is like okay Yeah, where do you want to go like we'll send you there players have a lot of power Billy and and I do think that This is one of those situations. I mean, but they have that power because the management gives it to them right like you get very easily Just be like sorry, Dave, but they have that power because the management gives it to them, right? Right? You get very easily just be like, sorry, Dave.
Starting point is 00:27:26 But this is what Samson is saying. This is what Samson's saying about the poison that is player power. Do you not remember that? Samson wants to have the power. But it's not real power. No, but it is. Like, you know, we give it to them. Yeah, it's given power.
Starting point is 00:27:39 You can't actually say I'm going to go play for this team unless they say, okay, we'll do it for you. A player can make a mess. Don't you recall mello drama it lasted a year and a half. Don't you remember Dwight Howard in Orlando and the same thing, Gundy thing? These situations can become untenable and the player does have a lot of leverage in these situations. Don't tell me like it's like okay they can just put their foot down and not move them. If a player wants to go the player goes. On principle alone there are times that you don't do that.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Christian Yalich walked in, day one to Geter and said it and said, I want to be traded and Geter acquiesced. And what can you imagine Yalich on our team right now? Our team, I didn't know. On your team right now, he's pretty good. He's pretty good. All right, let's get to this next.
Starting point is 00:28:21 We'll get to this in just a second. It's amazing that the Marlins made like the two worst trades in MLB history. We need to get to, we need to get to this next. We'll get to this in just a second. It's amazing that the Marlins made like the two worst trades in MLB history. We need to get to, we need to get to next. We didn't do enough with it yesterday. The sheer delight. I'm hoping we can get instant replay back there or something. The look that came over David's face
Starting point is 00:28:38 when he realized the possibility and lustfully thought about manipulating and taking advantage of Bob Ross. I need to get to this because it was stunning. How happy he became at the very idea of being able to take all of Bob Ross' things. We'll get to that next. Don Lebertard. Don Grivers.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You know, Joel, he's going to tweet. What do you want to tweet? I'm quite frankly, I'm fine with it If anything I want to go to Miami-2. Is that all right? I mean, is it supposed to be in the front office by now? Hey I could hit the back nine right up the practice. Oh, he'd love that. Oh my god. Two gots Me and Joel. Let's go. I mean, I mean two gots. It's a great question. It's a great question if they win Gabe six That hurts my chances of coming down here. I mean, that goes with Joel.
Starting point is 00:29:29 It's a real handsome question, Stugats. This is the Don Lebatar show with this two gods. ["Draft King Sporzburg 1 the America's top-rated sportsbook apps. Draft King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action including seeing Game Paul A's props lie betting so much more. You just go down when you sign up on a Draft King Sportsbook app to check it out. David Samson has no issue showing you some of his vulnerable, weird spaces. So it makes sense that while watching movies about horror late at night in his 50s in a hotel room, he would need the comfort of the front desk
Starting point is 00:30:14 because he was scared. I have in front of me what I believe to be something happening in Halea right now that will scare you as someone who likes order and likes people to be responsible. And we're gonna get to that in just a second and we're gonna get to your sheer delight at wanting to steal Bob Ross's things in a second as well. I have a question for David.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Do you chart anything else? Like is that an uncommon thing or is that a regular thing for you? I do chart things. Like often like every time I do XYZ, I chart it, or I just want you to unasset. I've never done acid. That's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:50 No, it's definitely not. Do has any of the just his friends. Just his friends. Yeah, there's certain things you have to chart because that's actually the smart way. So you can learn from what your previous behaviors were and how you react to certain things that are going on. It actually helps inform you how to deal with situations
Starting point is 00:31:04 that come up again. You can go back to see how you reacted and then change if you didn't get the desired result. So like what? Certain things with business meetings. So I'll go get out of a meeting and say I tried this approach to negotiate with a player, with an agent. We tried this attack, it did not work. Therefore we're going to do a different one. But in your personal life, do you have other everyday things that you chart, like, no, my personal life is,
Starting point is 00:31:27 that's the, maybe I should. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Never talked about that. Oh, if you cared, if you cared to pour, if you cared to pour your will into cultivating a relationship at home,
Starting point is 00:31:40 instead of stealing Bob Ross' money, now we're on something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we're on. Now we're making progress. You want to pour me into your will? Mike, my book's sharp, maybe. Before you fully step out, I will get to this horrifying set of numbers. I want to present David Samson with about highly in a second. But Mike continues to be mad at the University of Miami baseball team.
Starting point is 00:32:03 LSU wins the title last night. College baseball is super. It's just fun. And what LSU did, that college world series swung back and forth. And you realize you're watching like a really cool swaggering LSU program, a beast that grifted off of LSU football getting popular and kicked the holy hell out of out of a Florida team that was very good and Mike Ryan is mad because Florida and LSU don't have any more right to be great at college baseball than Miami does. Miami births sort of what those programs have
Starting point is 00:32:38 become. You know, Skip Berkman went from University of Miami to LSU tried to take it there. The history of this is Miami birth this thing. Why is LSU, tried to take it there. The history of this is Miami birthed this thing. Why is LSU in Florida better at it? Well, LSU's been really good for a long time, beating Miami in a national championship game. I think it's a little disingenuous to say they've grifted off of the football's success. It's been a successful program for a long time,
Starting point is 00:33:00 and they do have more of a right to actually be in the college world series, because they have more resources, they have more scholarships available as public institutions for Miami's kind of the outlier and Stanford as well as private institutions Your handcuffed as the the financial resources you can give so you have to recruit a different type of player Which is why I think private school experience like two of the three candidates that were involved in this search was kind of essential and so after a day of pointing out that you didn't like part of the problem now being the ordained solution at the University of Miami. Why are why are Samson and Stugots laughing right now while I'm trying to talk to Mike. I don't know why Stu's laughing because he wasn't here. I'm laughing
Starting point is 00:33:43 because I'm listening to Mike talk and he's visceral angry. He came in on an off day. We can't get people to come in on an on day. Forget that. He came in on an off day. It's our college baseball. I'm really trying to correct some of this stuff because I know I can be grading to the audience. What is so visceral and angry about me right now?
Starting point is 00:34:02 I don't think you're visceral and angry. I think you're visceral and angry. I think you're gently emotional. You love that program and you're someone who's part of, you know, you've contributed money to the program and you're now in the circles where the power's being brokered on who gets control of this program. Columbus High School has control of the University of Miami program.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah, they do. That's the problem. I mean, this is how it goes in Miami. Yeah. Here's what happened with the Miami search. Ultimately, after doing some reporting and collecting the data, I think they went cheap. They went cheap.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And that wasn't necessarily why I started giving money to the program. That's not really the promise. I guess they're applying most of their resources to the football program and getting buildings in place for the football program. Damratt-Covitch is a high-priced AD, making about four times as much as Blake James.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And his reputation is I'm a building builder. I'll get you the facilities. And that's really important for the football team to be successful. And I understand that. Dan Reddekovich, I don't believe JD to be his top choice. I think a collective made a decision. They looked at budgets. They decided resources were better allocated elsewhere. And that the separation between the three candidates wasn't enough to justify the salaries. And that's frustrating to me because a lot of new administrators and lieutenants are commanding pretty big salaries.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And in college baseball, we're talking about a difference of a couple hundred thousand dollars. It's not a lot. The reigning coach of the year wanted to be here. And he's not a one year wonder at Wake Forest. He had plenty of success in New Orleans after Katrina. He is the reigning coach of the year. I thought the program that we were building here,
Starting point is 00:35:50 when we went after Dan Reddikovic, when President Frank acknowledged some of the failings of years passed that if the reigning coach of the year wants to be in Miami, we're gonna make that happen. We didn't make that happen. We went with a guy who was probably, if you listen to some fans, the biggest impediment. Miami's had the best winning percentage in the ACC
Starting point is 00:36:10 over the last few years, and yet they can't get past the regionals or the super regionals. And it's because JD hasn't necessarily developed pictures. So I guess the good news is JD doesn't have to be the pitching coach anymore, and we'll see what this goes, how this goes. He bleeds orange and green. So did
Starting point is 00:36:25 the last guy. I will support him. I think there were better candidates out there and we'll see how this works out. I do know that people of influence back to AD. He's a Miami guy, guys like Alex Rodriguez, Warren is camp. Hopefully this means Alex Rodriguez will commit resources to NIL and help this program because it rots stroke the big check to get his name on that. Hey, Rod, I think Mike Ryan is giving more money to the school than you have. That is that. No, not, not over the course of the years.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Like he's stroke the big check for he wrote the big check when he wanted to polish his image in Miami and pretend like he had gone to Miami when he didn't. Yeah, he had his insecurity. Who would do that? He also owes Miami nothing. He didn't go there. No, I mean, yeah, but I didn't go there either.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And I get more annually than A-Rod. Oh, how do you know that? What do you mean, how do I know that? Because I give it more. I do, you know. Because people like give. Because people like give. Because how do you know what A-Rod gives?
Starting point is 00:37:21 I'm very, how do I know what he gives? Get a list every year. I ask. You know, they're not allowed to be out there. He's a reporter. I'm not allowed to find out like who's donating to the program as a booster. You can't get to try and find out,
Starting point is 00:37:32 but someone shouldn't tell you. He's both. He's a champion. He's walking the line pretty well right now. He is a donor and a reporter. He's more informed on. All right. Who's in charge of telling me I can't report
Starting point is 00:37:42 and who's in charge at the university mind me telling me I can't donate because they're taking my money Like they're not don't get you think you think when they're when I'm writing them a big check They're like we can't take this guy's money because he has a platform Mike is classically hustling backwards usually what you do if you want to Gryfft off of a program it's so that you can make money off of to drift off of a program, it's so that you can make money off of reporting off of the program, not so that you could give them money to in order to report on the program.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You can have your laugh, but I'm well intentioned. I genuinely care about the program and I want what's best for it. And I got directly involved and I started giving resources because I wanted to turn things around. Things like what just happened, where UM goes on the cheap.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And say what you will about college baseball and Miami's place place in its history when Jim Morris was the biggest name available, Miami wouldn't got him. And he won a national title down here. This is not that something that the football program used to do when we corrected it. The coach of the year wanted to be here. Pollard wanted to be here. Dame Reddikovic said, okay, go ahead with JD. And I'm not even sure that was his top candidate.
Starting point is 00:38:44 So it's a disappointing end to a less than stellar job search. Donate more and report less and then you can have your say. David, screw off.

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