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Episode Date: January 17, 2024We kick things off with a Parade of Gasbags of our show's Dolphins takes... David Samson is here to discuss the Fins and their decision making with Tua, Peacock's streaming success, NFL Ratings vs. ot...her leagues, and the Dwyane Wade statue unveiling. Then, Billy has a rant against the merits of the Dwyane Wade statue, and Jeremy has a rant against the Emmy awards on behalf of Better Call Saul. Who will win Jessica's Emmy Award for Best Rant? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I think the dolphins are making a Super Bowl.
I genuinely think they're making the Super Bowl.
So do I.
They have Tyree Kill, who's clearly a game breaker, and shifted the power in the conference
from Kansas City to Miami all of a sudden.
Vic Fangio is the God, the lowercase G there, no offense to anybody.
He's the God of defensive coordinators, and they're ready to do it.
And Mike McDaniel digging in to his second season,
he's familiar now, he's more comfortable.
They're man, they're ready.
They're ready.
Dolphins haven't been to a Super Bowl
in almost 40 years since Dammarino's 1984,
and they're ready, they're gonna do it.
The Dolphins are overwhelming, I'm not certain.
They're not the best team in the NFL right now, Greg.
I mean, I could talk for the whole show about why they're a better game and why they're better than Buffalo.
Dolphins offense is everyone football for me. Like I can't watch a football game.
It's not the Dolphins. It's done the exact opposite for me. I just can't football amazing.
Like I'm watching no it's great, but I'm saying it's ruined the rest of football for me.
Like I can't watch just a single game that's not the Dolphins. Tua is everything they thought he would be
when they drafted him number five ahead of Herbert.
Tua is the favorite in the MVP odds right now.
Should be.
With great reason.
And I just think this is the most dynamic,
well-balanced, inventive, exciting offense
have ever had.
We're all watching something we don't understand
and he's outtactitioning people on things we don't understand. This is the most
overwhelming offense I have ever seen the franchise play, our franchise of
Dan Marino, too, is getting rid of the ball the way that Tom Brady does in
speed with Drupurie's accuracy. This should be the dolphin's year though, right?
I mean this is the best chance they've had at winning a Super Bowl in 25 years. Correct. With the accuracy, that's not
stoppable. Miami Dolphins! Woo! The Dolphins offense is until somebody proves otherwise,
almost unstoppable. Look at the delight on David Samson's face. I think the people in the
back row today are trying to fool me, put her on the pole, Jude, you at Levitard show.
Do reading glasses make you look more responsible?
We've got a back row of total energy.
And in the front row, we've got Chris Cody in charge.
And he's a mess because of everything
happening with the dolphins.
You are just beginning an offseason of everyone questioning
your quarterback and everything
that's happening there. We'll get to David Samson's business thoughts on this in a second. But first,
Chris, tell the people what kind of mess you are today. I'm all over the place. In the last 24 hours,
I've traded to a, I've signed him doing Max deal. I've, I'm just, I can't decide what I want to do.
I don't know if he's good. I don't know what any of this means. I don't know how this, I don't know if the season was a good season.
I've flown all over the place on every single topic with the dolphins.
I, I, just this, this what I'm saying.
Like, that's how I feel.
David, what should the dolphins do with Tuo?
What are the business merits of he's the best quarterback you've had in 25 years,
no matter how many people are questioning him.
So you don't have to make a decision.
One of the things that gets owners in trouble is when they make decisions before they have
to.
A lesser known situation is when the Red Sox gave the extension to Chris Sale or the Tigers,
your guy Dave Dombraski gave an extension to Armageddon Cabrera when he didn't have to
or Dantro Willis when he didn't have to.
You just don't need to do anything with Tua right now.
I don't think it's necessary.
I think you wait because are you sure that Tua is the person?
And from a business standpoint, are you interested in the money that you're making as a team
with your ancillary businesses, which is what Steve Ross does, ancillary
to the dolphins around Hard Rock Stadium and within Hard Rock Stadium.
Or are you interested in possibly getting to the Super Bowl for the first time in most
people's lifetimes?
And I think if it's the latter, you need to wait because as quirky and great as Mike
McDaniel is, we don't know for sure whether or not the dolphins are in a position to be
competitive at the end.
And it doesn't matter what happens at the beginning of a season or what matters, what happens
at the end.
And owners get pressured by PR.
And the good news is in Miami that PR is all over as Chris Cody just said.
So I think the dolphins wait.
So you're saying just let him play out his option here.
Play it out.
There's nothing wrong with letting players play out their contract.
Every owner gets nervous, oh, we're gonna lose them.
Always gonna be a free agent. Oh, we're gonna have to end up paying more.
So now people are speculating, oh, just give him a hundred million guaranteed.
And that's sort of in the middle where it's neither here nor there.
You're not really giving him the max. You're not getting close to Watson,
but you're still then saying that he's gonna be the quarterback
that you want as your franchise quarterback.
And to me, Baker Mayfield did just fine.
But on the flip side, there is benefit
to when you know it's your guy, you locked them up.
I mean, that happened in Baseball with Evan Lungoria
with the raise that's happened with the braves
have now an all-star team for the next decade because they locked everyone up. I guess the two of question is, is he their guy, right? Because
if he is their guy, then they should try to lock him up because if they don't, then they're going
to have to start over again if he's too expensive, right? The question also is not just is he their guy,
but it's how much do you have to pay him if he's your guy? Because the examples you just brought up are bringing guys in for what eventually became below market
value and were guys on sort of cheaper deals than they would have gotten when they got
to free agency where Tuah, if he gets paid and extended, will likely do so as one of the
highest paid quarterbacks in the league. So I can actually understand where David's
coming from to an extent with two of
if you just plays out this year yeah you might have to pay him
what might be an even bigger deal going into the following off season and you risk the opportunity
of losing him but at the same time if you're unsure
as to whether or not he's the guy in the system i can understand waiting it out
well that's the thing if he is your guy sign them now because it's only going to go up it's not
going to go down if you wait a year are you sure because he just let the thing. If he is your guy, sign him now, because it's only going to go up. It's not going to go down if you wait a year. Are you sure? Because he just led the
league in passing. If he gets hurt and there... Well, because the contract's always go up.
But if they're nine and eight last next year and you're even less sure than you were before,
is it going to go up? I mean, he couldn't have had a much better... He had a terrible ending,
but he couldn't have had a much better regular season. He was healthy and he led the league in passing.
Well, I'm saying is if he's your guy, which they would know or not know, if he's your guy, lock him up because if he's not your guy
Then you can let him go. But if he is and you're gonna lock him up a year from now, it can go from 45 million to 60 million.
I think we have to play the game to win or to out.
Is that your guy, Billy Gil? We have set a record for asking whether someone is someone else's guy in this segment, and
we're 10 minutes into the segment.
Still don't have an answer.
David, no, we're not going to have an answer for seven years, just like with Tana Hill.
We're going to do it all over again.
We're going to do the same thing that we did for seven years.
I'm two in.
With Tana Hill. David, can you tell me what you made of peacock drawing 23 million people to its streaming
services?
The other games all did better than that.
All the other games on network television did better than that.
And Cowboys Packers was at almost double that, but 23 million, they're trumpeting it as the
greatest streaming victory in the history of the United States in the history of things
being streamed.
Well, let's not get too crazy because until we see the numbers and we'll never see the
numbers, but maybe someone will find them.
Maybe Pobletori will find out.
I want to know how many people both signed up for peacock
and then kept it.
That is where the money is.
The 23 million also is an incorrect number
because that number includes all the people
in Miami and Kansas City.
Now there were way more in Kansas City,
but the number of people who watched the game
on regular television.
So it wasn't actually 23 million streaming.
However, I think what fans have to realize
and so many people were so upset
that oh, it's just streaming,
you guys did a whole segment on how grandparents
will figure out where to find the game.
The NFL could not care less about that demographic
and having them understand where to find games.
They're focused on getting as many possible entities to bid for the right.
Peacock paid $100 million just for that game.
Extrapolate that over an extended playoffs.
Extrapolate that over a regular season and you're talking about a huge amount of money
going to these
owners.
I think what the peacock game did is hopefully helped inform all of you that more and
more games will be streamed and your CEO John Skipper is going to be correct where the
Super Bowl will eventually be behind the paywall.
It's coming and it's coming soon.
How crazy are you made as someone who cares so much about baseball business that football
just stumbles into giant oil wells of money and they don't have to be monogamous or exclusive
with anybody like they they are just capable of creating money streams in all sorts of
new places in ways that are really ridiculous.
It's not just MLB. Think about what the MBA just announced in the last couple of days.
I don't know if you guys covered this, that the MBA draft is going to be over several days now.
They're trying to make it an event the way the NFL's draft is an event, we spent years just trying to be like football.
What can we do?
But the biggest difference is NFL shares all of its national broadcast revenue and there's
no local broadcast revenue and that's just what the NBA and MLB will never be.
So therefore, what is it about the NFL that really bothers me the most?
It's that 40 million watch the Cowboys Packers game.
And a total of not even 50 million watch the entire World Series.
What bothers me the most is when the list of top 100 shows comes out,
and 86 of them are NFL games.
So badly, we want to be able to send a press release that more people are engaging with baseball
and that more young people are playing it.
All in an effort to just get more broadcast revenue, the NBA is doing the same thing
as they're going into a negotiation, but at the end of the day, NFL is uncatchable.
And that's the problem.
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Billy, you have been locally and nationally,
the only one brave enough to call out the flirtations
of Dwayne Wade when he's a heat
lifeer, but goes elsewhere. He just got a stature.
It's not flirtations. It's full on Fing.
All right. It's full on Fing.
He left and went to other places. It's not like, oh, hey,
sure. It's penetration station. Okay.
Okay. It's penetration station. What?
You heard him. It's penetration station.
And Billy, Billy came in here on hinge this morning
He's had a couple of days off and he's just he's crazed
Trust me when you were supposed to got you don't have any days off
One of the things that's happening with him though is he is willing to go where other people in this town or not willing to go when it comes to
The excess that we bestow upon Utanus, Aslam, and Dwayne Wayne,
where I can't keep track of the ceremonies
because every couple of weeks,
they have some sort of other ceremony
to celebrate these guys retiring many years ago.
Let's be very clear on the front end here.
I have not taken any shots at Utanus, Aslam,
that is you.
You're the one beefing with him and feuding with him,
not me. You're the one writinging with him and feuding with him, not me.
You're the one writing articles, doubting him, not me.
What I said was, Jeremy said,
oh, this Friday, I'm covering the heat game.
We're doing you, Donas Haslam's retirement goal.
Another one, we just did this with Dwayne Wade,
like three days ago, can we space these out a little bit?
What are we doing that every game is the special honor
where we're bringing back old timers and doing this and that like let's space these things out
Give me time to miss people. Why are we doing everything so close together? I don't understand
I can understand what you're saying about giving some time to miss people
But wasn't the whole complaint before that we were doing all of it in all of these different weeks
They've got one week Dwayne Wade just got his Hall of Fame enthronement honoree and was told that he was going to be given
a statue in the fall of this year.
Udonas Haslam is getting his number retired now.
Now I can understand with Dwayne Wade
where it's felt like a lot because the last two games
of, he had the last dance, right, or rather,
what was that one, yeah, last dance,
where it was his entire
final season that was sort of documented and everybody was giving him rocking
chairs etc. But then his final two games his final home game was his last game his
final road game was his last game the game in Brooklyn then he comes and gets
his number retired and now it's this and there was a movie too in the middle of
all of that I remember going to see the movie at the arena. All right, hold on a second.
Let me get David. There's a lot. There's a key under a door. A man. Yes.
25 that was for LeBron. I think that's what got Pat Raleigh. No, no.
LeBron was hit the road. Jack, you're out of here. No, Pat Raleigh got fine $25,000 on
freedom for leaving the key under the mat for LeBron. You're welcome. I just don't understand Billy's dislike for weight. You know your favorite
status. You know your favorite.
You're a violin player played for another team too. It's not dislike for weight. You're
the one suggesting that Dwayne Statue should be him. What were you suggesting him? Well,
no, no, no, no, let's not miss represent this. Let's not miss represent this. I said,
are we ever going to get on his statues?
And then I said, it would be funny
if when they unveiled the statue,
it was LeBron and Wade doing the Rachel Nichols
interview in Caves uniforms
because that's all he ever did on the Caves.
That's what I said.
Okay, and that strikes me as anti-Wade,
but let's play the sound here.
I don't understand.
If I'm historically accurate, I'm anti-summon for simply selling the truth. Yeah, but I'm historically accurate, I'm anti-summon
for simply selling the truth.
Yeah, but for telling the truth, I'm anti-summon.
But saying that he's not a heat lifer.
He's not a heat lifer.
Before on Droggitch is a heat lifer.
Nope, he's not.
He's not a heat lifer.
That's a whole new thing.
You can understand that.
That guy supposedly wanted to come back to the heat so bad
and had like three opportunities to come back to the heat,
didn't come back to the heat.
And now he's going and is playing a game in like Slovenia.
Yeah.
One more game.
He can't even do that on the heat.
He loves the heat so much.
Didn't want to sign with the heat,
but he's having all of his heat friends go to Slovenia to play a game.
What is that?
How much does he actually like this team?
And then he has like season tickets practically.
He's sitting in the stands every game and they're like,
I don't want to play for us.
He's like, nope, nope, don't want to play for you.
And then a microphone's there and he's like,
I love the heat.
I'd love to play for the heat.
What the f***ing sign with the heat then, buddy?
What are you doing, you're here,
you have nothing but time on your hands,
go play for the heat, if you wanna play for the heat,
so bad, what are we doing?
I don't understand this, you guys are so stupid.
You let these people, you let these people,
pay me fancy narratives that just go to what you wanna believe
and you fall for it every time.
What's wrong with you guys?
You're gonna honor, you're gonna honor Goran in two weeks.
I already know it.
You're gonna retire his number two.
We're running out of numbers people.
We're running out of numbers.
What are you angsties?
Chris Cody's here, he's like,
Hi, Mehaka's whatever.
We should retire his number two.
Okay, great.
Let's retire his number two.
Oh, he's gonna leave this team on a finals run.
I've heard that about everyone from Jimmy Butler
to Tyler Hiro to what's his
name, bumpy that you called him. Tyler Johnson. Tyler Johnson. I never said that about
him. You guys were all over Tyler Johnson. All over Tyler Johnson. David Samson, we will
hold that. You don't his has them sound for later in the show. He is and him indeed mad
at me. Samson, your thoughts on Wade getting a statue
and whether or not it should be a statue of him,
Lebron and Rachel Nichols commemorating all he did
in interviews.
I'm still reveling in the fact that Billy is so upset
about something other than the Marlins right now.
I'm not upset.
It's just, what upset?
It's not upset.
What upset me is you guys.
It's not even them. It's you guys. you guys are the fish that come out of the water with
Three hook holes and it's like how how do you guys keep getting hooked by the same fisherman over and over again?
I don't understand it. Do you not learn any of you?
Do you not learn this just a game?
They're playing only do this to the heat though like you love Juan Pierre
He played for other teams like the fact that you're holding. Mr. Marlin played for nine years to go.
The fact that you're holding,
the fact that you're holding Wade going somewhere
at the very end of his career against him,
is just two other places.
It's blasphemy.
It's not.
Samson?
I have some concern about statues in general,
because I am hurt.
We had a statue ready to go for Jose Fernandez. We had the artist hired,
we had the mold ready, and then the team got sold, and the new owners decided that they were not
going to allow any sort of statue, any sort of anything for Jose Fernandez because it was too
difficult a conversation to have because of the circumstances under which he passed away.
And so they just decided to completely just get rid of Jose
and any part about him.
So that's a bit personal with me.
So it has changed how I view statues.
I would go around to different ball parks
with it when the team was on the road
and look at the different statues
and which players get them and how.
The most famous statue, of course, was the one in Pudge Rodriguez's backyard.
He had a full 12-foot statue of himself in his own backyard, one of the greatest statues
you'll ever see.
And my only question is, when you decide a statue, it's a huge decision, because in theory,
it's not supposed to go away, like a retired number, except we unretired a number with
the Marlins, which was a horrible
move.
But if you give one to Wade, how many statues and where are they going to be and who's
going to see them?
What's the location?
That's what's fascinating to me.
Do you put Wade in the prime spot?
Where's LeBron statue going to go?
You can't do it behind where the park was going to be.
So do you put it right at the entrance,
do then put two next to each other,
and then Bosch doesn't get one, or Butler,
or any of the other great, that, no,
that's not even the right statue that I'm talking about.
That's the one that he got in Texas.
The one you'll never see a picture of
was the one in his backyard.
But in any case, the heat are an example of franchise. They do things in a very
knee jerk way when it comes to honoring, which is funny because when it comes to building
their team, they are methodical and successful. And this all started for me back in 03, the
year we were winning the World Series, when the heat inexplicably and infuriatingly retired
Michael Jordan's number in a move that I've never forgiven
them for because a it's a terrible precedent to ever retire the number of a player who
wasn't yours unless it's a league wide initiative like Roberto Clemente, let's say.
So I just don't know what Pat Riley's gig is as it relates to statues and retired numbers,
but it's way too much.
David, I don't know what you were seeing in preview there.
It wasn't a statue that was on the big screen for the viewer to see.
So you were reacting to something that only you were seeing there.
And the rest of us were not seeing.
I believe I have seen a public photograph of the statue that Pudge Rodriguez had.
We will in his yard,
which was laughably funny.
We will see if we can find that.
But can you tell me the unretiring of a number?
You unretired the number that you had given Carl Barger, correct?
It wasn't me.
We inherited Carl Barger.
It was the first president.
I was the third president in Marlon's history.
Dumbrowski was two and Carl Barger was one.
Carl Barger, I believe, passed away prior to the first game
the Marlon's ever played.
And Wayne Heisinga retired his number,
but he didn't have a number.
They just said it was number five.
That maybe that was his favorite number.
And one day, Jeffrey Laurie walked into my office and said,
we're giving Logan Morrison five.
And I said, no, it's retired.
He said, no, we're unretiring it.
And I said, you can't unretire a number.
And he had promised Logan that he would get number five.
So that was it for Carl Barger.
We moved it from a retired number to like a plaque.
And it always bothered me
And I lost that argument with everybody and I spoke to Logan about it and he didn't know Karl Barger was
It didn't matter to him and I think the whole purpose of retiring a number is that you keep that flame alive
So people keep the legacy and learn about the person. I just don't think you can unretired numbers not right
Karl Barger was the late president of the Marlins. His favorite baseball player was Joe
Dimashio, whose number was number five. And I want the audience to absorb the
uproarious hilarity in unretiring and dead man's favorite number who started
your franchise for Logan Morrison. Like that. That's that's a thing. It's unbelievable.
Put up the statue. Please now on the screen that Pudge Rodriguez had in his backyard a just glowing testament
to narcissism and self. The statue is the second most ridiculous thing in the photo. I know,
right? He's on a motorcycle in front of the statue. That would make a better statue than
the statue. I think he motor cycle on grass him on the motorcycle that is correct what do you
shaking your head about david
i'm just reminiscing about the party that he hosted after world series we all
had a blast we had won the world series we went to his house this is back
before some of the issues he had
you know financially
but he had amazing house in Miami when you go over the cause way there's these
exclusive areas and then we go to the causeway, there's these exclusive areas.
And then we go to the backyard.
None of us had ever known.
None of his teammates had known
because he really wasn't necessarily that close
to his teammates.
So we never, no one had been to his house.
And we walked into the backyard and there this thing was
and you could see people,
like I remember Derek Lee's reaction,
like it was yesterday.
You sort of look at him, at your like, oh my God,
I've never seen anything like this.
And to this day, I've never seen anything like that.
Did you call Dwayne Wade statue knee jerk?
Yes.
What are you doing?
He's the greatest player in their franchise's history.
And building him a statue makes all the sense in the world.
He's a Hall of Famer. He's a hall of favor.
He's a hall of favor off the court at this point as well.
Best at having him in this market of my lifetime.
Yeah.
And Lebron, you know, you said where you're going to put the Lebron statue, you won't put
a Lebron statue.
He played here for four seasons.
He was there.
He was there.
Best player.
But your greatest player was Dwayne Wade.
And your culture carrier is Udonis Haslum.
And that's why he gets his number retired.
So I think it makes all the sense in the world and these things have been thought out for
years, not just right now.
Culture carrier of the bronze statue.
Culture carrier makes it sound like a virus.
Makes it sound like something that is disease.
It is when it comes to you yammering about it.
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I cannot imagine how insane David Samson was made by Adnan
Burke at the Critics' Awards, revealing a whole bunch
of photographs, including an annoyed Robert De Niro
trying very quickly to walk past Adnan
and Adnan taking the picture while he was walking past
unhappily.
Like Robert De Niro did not want any part of saying hello
to Adnan Burke, he was giving him the side eye clearly clearly but I wanted to wait to talk Emmys with David Samson because I know he
cares about all this awards bullshit deeply. How did you feel about Adnan Verke's
photographic celebrity star bleeping? So you have to understand that Adnan was
texting me all these photos. I didn't think he was going to post them. He sent me the De Niro photo,
and he said to me,
look, my buddy De Niro,
and I responded like,
buddy, it's like he wants to have you arrested.
He no interest.
You're not posting that, right?
And the next thing I know,
of course, it's being posted,
and I went right to trying to understand Metal Arc and
trying to understand how it all works and how he goes to the Critics Choice Awards.
Why is that paid for by Metal Arc?
What's the advantage?
What content are you getting from it?
Other than putting pictures of people who've been on this podcast, how about getting new
people on the podcast?
How about adding value instead?
It looks like it literally looks like Adnan is stalking people.
Oh no, he was.
If you want to listen to today's cinephile,
he details the entire night and it's just him sitting around waiting for this guy
to go to the bathroom and follow him there and get a selfie.
It is, it's kind of gross, but it's also adorable because he's so excited to be there.
He went there on his own dime.
He maybe could have gotten metal art to cover it, but he paid for it all
himself. And it's just, I just look at him. He's so happy. He met Paul Giamatti. Come on.
How can you hate this guy? Well, were those squares? Did he take a screenshot of the iPhone
trying to, he did say that the will Farrell one was a terrible self. Put that one back
up. That's just like, I don't know.
Farrell was there for a second, and he was fumbling with his phone and adnan got
the best shot that he could on the screen shot at himself taking a picture
while the phone was trying to focus on him and will Ferrell's fate these are
all terrible so he actually said will Ferrell of all of them recognize them
like was like hey I know you and that was the only one that gave that not all
the other people did not I just think that what you're doing is creating a monster in Adnan
who already thinks his movie takes are so far superior.
And now you put him in a room with all these celebrities
where he's somehow, it actually is delusional
up to think he's friends with them.
And he posts this and then gets a podcast out of it.
So I hope for MetalArc standpoint
that the ratings are great and the downloads are great,
but I just don't see the value.
If you're gonna send Adnan, you have to send me too,
because then we could do a show together,
and we could actually...
We didn't send him, he sent himself.
I know, but I don't buy that.
I wait for the expense report.
I would like to quickly just flip through all these selfies
because they're all bad for different reasons.
Like the exposure is behind him and a lot of them.
One of them's just a screenshot of a picture.
One of them is cutting his own head off.
Like they're all poorly constructed selfies,
but each for a, it's actually very aggressive
to be this bad at the end.
You know what, she's totally right.
Let's roll through these one at a time
and find the flaws in each of them.
This one might be the best one.
Bill Hader might be the best one.
Okay, we're being haters and this might be the best one.
But Bill Hader is far behind him, but he's engaged.
Let's see the next one here.
And that's John.
He said John Hamm of all of them was not unfriendly, but just was like, buddy, come on.
What are you doing?
He felt the energy from John Hamm of like, I don't want to be taking this stuff.
And you can tell because he put half of his face
outside of the frame, I think maybe as like a reaction
to the hostility emanating from John Ham's body.
It is an awkward photo.
This photo here is too much light,
way too much light on AdNens face.
You can't see half of AdNens face with Seth Rogan.
Also blurry, yes, Seth Rogan.
Seth Rogan. Wow, that's pretty good right there. Limited fake Seth Rogan's high laugh.
Let's see what else we have here. Yes, Will Farrell there. The mistake is obvious.
That's honestly impressive. I've never seen anybody be able to take a screenshot while the
picture is happening like that. I'm almost I'm almost more impressed than it being a bad picture.
They are. Who is the celebrity in the background with the tiny box in front of their face?
That's the that's an underrated part of the selfie.
All terrible, all worse than the last.
There's Wom's game.
Offal lighting with a terrible lighting.
Okay, so David, one of the things I wanted to talk to you about a lot of people are making fun of Bob Odin Kirk
and Better Call Saul because they're the biggest loser
in the history of the Emmys.
No one's been nominated more for an Emmy
without ever winning one than Bob Odin Kirk
and put it on the poll, please, Juju.
Does Bob Odin Kirk look physically
like someone who has lost 53 Emmy nominations.
I would say better call Saul was better than the bear
and I'm offended by the idea that better call Saul
is never won.
Different categories, the bear was comedy.
Okay, well, it was ridiculous.
This is the whole issue.
This is the whole issue.
It's almost like the, the,
succession was comedy.
Well, it's like the all in B.A. voting.
Like eventually they had to get rid of the center position and just make it three forwards and it's the succession was comedy. Well, it's like the all-in-b-a voting. Like, eventually they had to get rid of the center position
and just make it three forwards,
and it's the same thing now.
All of these shows are hybrids, right?
Succession is a comedy, the bear is a drama,
but it's nominated for comedy,
and the other one's nominated for drama.
None of it makes sense.
Better Call Saul was the only true drama
that was remarkable like this,
and to be nominated 53 times and never win, there were some of the things that won over it
You know season eight of Game of Thrones the one that everybody hated the
Starbucks one over season four of Better Call Saul
Like what makes any sense to me?
That makes me sick. Yeah, cousin Greg. I look he was good at his job in his role
But the idea that he won supporting actor over any
of the other supporting characters in Better Call Saul over the span of these years, there's
so many different examples of times when these actors, these characters should have won.
It's Ray Seahorn that's the most infuriating of all of them.
She was unbelievable and to have a true dramatic performance like that. One that was like Shakespearean in the level
of acting that she had to have that lead to Jennifer Coolidge,
Jennifer Coolidge, who was comedic in the drama.
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
And I love Jennifer Coolidge, but that was not-
Thank you.
That was not the same level of performance.
And the other thing is Carol,
but Nat should have been nominated for best guest actress because she was so good in that final season. Let me play for the audience here real quick before
we get David's thoughts on this. All of the shots of Bob Odin Kirk losing at the Emmys. Just play John Hampton. And the Emmy goes to
Rami Malik.
Sterling Capra.
Nothing's major.
The Emmy goes to
Kirin Colpin.
Spermins.
Samson, your thoughts?
I hate the fact that you're forced to clap for someone else.
They're not rooting for someone else to win.
And I think it's so disingenuous when they show the people who lose and they're cheering
and saying, yeah, go and clapping.
They really want to drop them the bird
and they want to leave.
And so Odin Kirk, I think the last year
when Culkin won over him just a couple of days ago,
I think that was the final straw
because he knew the show was over.
And that was his last time, his last chance,
and he didn't hide his contempt.
And deservedly so, he should feel that contempt.
He also had a freaking heart attack
while filming the last season of the show
and came back and delivered for the fans.
I'm with Jeremy.
That was Jeremy's best rant in show history.
Jeremy, give it up for Jeremy.
Jeremy's on the press.
The Emmy for best rant.
The show is on him.
I mean, he almost died.
You're just gonna give him a word for good acting
because he almost died.
They're unrelated.
Billy had a good rant earlier in the show. I think he deserves the Emmy for so far.
That was awesome.
He's nominated.
He's nominated.
He's nominated.
What are you reviewing for us this week, Samson?
Can we talk about the mission?
Has anyone in your group seen the documentary called the mission?
No.
Okay, so I want to explain it to you.
Do you remember the story of the guy,
the religious zealot who went to the group of people
who live in the North Sentinel Islands off India,
where you're not allowed to go because they're cannibals.
They're not a civilized group of human beings.
They have separate laws.
It's very simple.
You cannot go to that island.
But this guy said, no, no, I'm gonna go there
and I'm gonna convert them all to my religion.
Sort of like elder cunning ham type stuff.
So he goes there and then he never comes back.
Shockingly, he got eaten.
Wonder why that would be.
So this documentary is the first time
they are giving you the true story
and you're getting video because there were videos of his efforts to get to the island and
people sort of scared they had to drop them off. You know, you know, there's no
doc or anything. It's a bunch of savages who live as savages. And I was watching
this documentary thinking, what kind of hubris did these religious zealots have that they
think that they're going to go and say, you guys need to find God. And then they end up as lunch.
It is a documentary called The Mission and you should watch it because, hey, you're going to learn
something and be it'll get you thinking about, why is it that we need people? And this goes for
our country too. Why do we need people and this goes for our country too.
Why do we need people to believe what we believe in order to make us feel better about
what we believe?
I don't know the answer to that.
So while force and his religion on a group of people on an island, he was cannibalized.
Is what you're saying?
He said lunch actually was how he punctuated it.
They are cannibals.
They are savages. This group, this community, if you can call it a They are cannibals, they are savages.
This group, this community, if you can call it a community,
I'm not sure they have a government.
And he never came back.
And the hypothesis, I mean, they don't have guns or anything,
they use bow and arrow, is that he was killed
and his body was never recovered,
and that he was killed and eaten.
I've always thought about, like,
cannibalism is so wild, like,
Dan, me and you, let's pretend we were on a plane
the two of us, it crashes,
and we end up on an island together, all right?
And you're like, hey, I'm older than you,
I'm gonna sacrifice myself, I'm gonna die here
and you can eat me to survive.
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
Like, we're, like,
it's time to die, probably.
Like, like, do I have to, like, rip your leg off completely? You mean you don't know how to begin. Like, we're like, it's time to die probably. Like, do I have to like rip your leg off completely?
You mean you don't know how to butcher a human?
Am I just going to start gnawing at his skin?
Do I need to cut, get through skin first?
You should cook him.
Just ask him a lot of fire.
So light a fire and just roast him.
Well, you don't want to do it as sushi.
Like the pig on nochibwena?
Yes.
Like, just put you in a bottle.
But you absolutely have to cook me. Okay, so I can't just start gnawing at your cat. No, thatena? Yes. Like, just put you in a box and just- You absolutely have to cook me.
Okay, so I can't just start knowing at your cat.
No, that's unwise.
I just don't, like, that's what I say.
People say this like, oh, who are you gonna eat here?
Like, I wouldn't even know where to begin
in terms of eating someone.
Well, it's not-
There's a new movie about this right now
called Silence of the Snow
that is based on the crash of the and in the Andes
of the soccer team.
And it was in movie a while ago called the live.
It may be before your time, a live, anybody.
Yeah, a soccer team that crashed and they had to eat each other.
So am I taking all of Dan's clothes off?
Can I just heat all your clothes?
Well, why would you go to eat the clothes?
Yeah, I'd eat as clothes.
That's my point.
So I have to picture me on an island now.
And now Dan's making Dan.
So now I have to make Dan fully nude.
It's like, I'll probably leave his underwear on just
because it's awkward.
That's the awkward part.
I mean, it's all awkward.
That's the point.
You'll eventually have to eat that, too, though. Hey, it's Mike Ryan.
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