The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Stugotz's Beard and the Destroyed Evidence
Episode Date: September 27, 2023We have a new and shocking development in the case of Stugotz's dyed beard. David Samson is here and joins Billy, Chris and Jeremy in their frustration over the Mets field conditions forcing a postpon...ement to a Marlins-Mets doubleheader today. Then, Billy has a suggestion for the Marlins, eulogizing Brooks Robinson, and one of the greatest announcer calls in the history of baseball. Plus, David shares an old ticket-stub scheme and Mike has concerns about a new Inter Miami jersey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Stugots is first order of business right as we turn off, turn on the microphones is to
turn his head away from all the cameras and then clear his throat.
It was, it was gross.
What just came out of his mouth.
Thank you.
But better right before the mics go on, then the first five seconds of the show.
Yeah.
I caught Stugots on the way in, rummaging through the back of his car with his ass crack
out that photograph of you distributed nationally in moments.
You know, you sought to run up to me like you care, like I'm looking for something in my
car.
A key got caught in the seat, okay?
And I'm trying to get it.
I have saws his fingers.
I have fat hands, okay?
Thick hands.
I can't get into those little cracks in the car, especially in the car seat.
Oh, Stu Gods, can I help you while you're filming me?
I have great calves though.
I gotta be honest with you.
I've seen this picture, my calves are outstanding.
My best feature, easily.
Speaking of your features.
Yeah, this is infuriating.
What, this, this, we are already, David Samson.
We've got two David Samson, we'll get to David Samson.
I don't know.
I did.
What?
What we have in our room here in this side of the room
is difficult, Mike, because I want to get
to all of the things Samson has expertise on.
But also, PFF has told us that Tua and Van Dyke
are the number one quarterbacks in their respective sports. Wow. has told us that Tua and Van Dyke
are the number one quarterbacks in their respective sports.
And there's all sorts of football stuff to get to
that's exciting, but we've got Samson here
and Samson is strong on almost all subjects,
but football less so.
We all know that two guys is a pathological liar.
What happened?
We know this about him.
Yeah.
Yesterday, we caught him, dying his beard.
I didn't do that.
Yeah, he said he didn't do that.
He put the blame on a makeup artist.
Not you.
Not thinking that we could cross-reference this, that we could fact check it easily.
So the very same makeup artist was in today.
So we asked her, hey, did you die?
So gots his beard.
She denied the allegation.
The crazy part is, is we didn't ask.
We kind of just assumed he was telling the truth.
I was like, I heard you died his beard.
Why would we do that?
She was like, what are you talking about?
And if you'll notice right now, before Soogat tries
to snake his way around this,
he destroyed the evidence on his face.
He came in clean shaven today.
Yep. The Ellen Lu clean shaven today. Yep.
The Ellen Lucio stands for liar, I mean.
That's not a thing that's gonna help you here.
We have caught you brazenly in a lie
that none of us understand why you felt the need to lie about.
And the investigative team here did all of the journalistic work
of just walking into the other room and asking her.
And clearly we believe somebody who has worked with us a few days more than somebody
who has worked with us for 20 years.
Yeah, but look at my calves.
I mean, whoo.
That was on nice calves.
Why lie there?
Why lie there?
Why lie there?
You guys, you've known me now for 20 years.
You think I'm dying my beard?
Who died it?
I have no idea.
Oh, come on.
Jesus Christ.
Come on.
Christ, the lie can't fall apart like that.
I mean, you blamed it on the makeup lady.
She's just being honest, I mean.
You're not being honest, sir.
I am.
You're fundamentally incapable.
Stu gots.
Who died your beard?
The answer can't be, I don't know.
Perhaps it was the makeup person on Monday, and the die stayed in there. I have no idea. We have I would even know for my
Wits I mean you only came in with a dark beard yesterday. I don't know what to tell you what's the thought process?
Why look better? Do you think you look better with the dyed beard? I mean I didn't dye my beard David's
Intentional evidence I mean he just like, have you met people like
this before who this is pathological, correct? This is like the need to lie about everything,
it has to be some sort of viral story. I imagine if I died my beard, it would
be for the same reasons that you die your hair. Stop saying if you admitted to having your
beard. I just want to know from a line standpoint is what's the,
what are you getting? Do you get a raise?
What's your lot?
I don't, I don't die anything.
I don't buy that.
Stop the guy lie about plenty of stuff.
Don't let him trick.
Don't, don't be in a lie.
He's not saying, don't fall for this.
He's not saying, don't fall for this.
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of what people generally lie
to get ahead to accomplish something.
I thought he was incapable of shame.
I thought he birthed all these Trump people who are incapable of shame and have doubled
down on shame.
But clearly there's some shame here on something because we've never caught him quite this
obviously in a lie where we have video proof, investigative proof, and one star witness that we believe. Clearly, Stugots has been caught
dying his beard and then lying about dying his beard. Period. We've never caught him
like this. He can always slip around. The idea that some sophisticated liar is a
concept I will never understand. It's very obvious when he's lying. You just kind of let it slide because you're like,
am I going to waste two days or two hours of my life
trying to get to the bottom of this?
No, like I will just keep moving on
and get on with the rest of my life.
But aren't you fascinated by the creature?
Like aren't you fascinated by someone
crawling around in the media?
Do you realize he's the reason?
No one trusts the media because right at the center
of it is fake fake news't say that he gets a raise
He's not the reason he invented lies in the media. Yes, you're working for me or against me look at the photo
You die your beard
He look at the photo from yesterday David on your monitor that is very clearly beard died something that he admitted to now
Where this life's troublesome is he threw someone else under the bus
he put it on the makeup artist who's not lucy out of put it on jesse
we ask jesse
then why would you say that she did this bearded i who did the bearded did did
did her job poorly is what you accused her of no no no did her job so you think
that's a good i job did her job so poorly that you look terrible on television
and one mic asked her about it. She might have thought it was reprimanded. Why did he look
so shitty on television with beer die? Beer die right under his eyes.
But it wasn't the die that made him look bad on television.
Yep. There's two guys in the middle of it. Can we please go back?
Thank you, Rick. You're welcome. Yep. And Billy. Are you still denying it with this evidentiary proof
of the before and after?
Look at your mustache.
I'm just saying, if die got in my beard,
I have no idea how we got in here.
Wow.
No, no, no.
OK.
And then what?
I'm proud of him.
I mean, come on.
Come on.
Come on.
He's showing up today.
He's your hill.
This is the first time he's been clean-shaven in months.
Right?
Him showing up today, destroying the evidence.
Such a tell.
We're trying to get him.
We used to die.
We're trying to get him work on television, and then DraftKings is like, can he look better?
The answer's no.
Sure I guess.
The answer's no.
The answer's no.
See, Kev?
See, Kev.
We're trying to convince DraftKings
that he is a professional broadcasting talent
who can groom himself correctly.
And we ask him, Stu Gotts, can you make your face?
Look, younger professionally.
And the answer's no.
I can't clean my face after 17 straight tour dates
with the Grateful Dead.
How are you at thrusting people into DraftKings?
So do you have to convince them that Stu is broadcast worthy?
Do you show before and after picture?
Have you been successful in other instances?
No, this is not my job.
Mike Ryan's the one dealing with programmers at draft kings
and the money at draft kings that pays for shows and resources.
And Mike Ryan gets to decide that stuff.
I don't make those decisions.
So do you have a hard time getting, getting stew in there?
Like was the die your suggestion that he needed to look at?
No, no, no, no.
Look, I've occasionally died my beard when it's longer.
It's fine, just cop to it when you're called out on it.
And he did, but he blames someone else for it.
He does not want to admit that anyone,
I've been asked for any of this.
Yes, he clearly did.
I didn't ask for dye.
It's who dyed your beard.
Maybe your wife put it on you and you're sleeping,
so hold on a second.
Instucats is defense though,
in any normal word environment,
if someone comes in with dyed hair, dyed whatever,
you don't publicly shake it.
This is not normal, right?
It's not normal.
And to admit that they dyed their hair.
I don't know if that our situation here is normal.
You know what is funny about this?
Lawyer up.
I don't think we are.
Yeah, they are.
They are lowering up.
Who's way?
I don't, management of which a part of is Dave.
Dave is somehow a part of our management now.
Dave.
My father, this is a true story, ran a factory in Halea and he would show up one day,
totally gray, eyebrows, giant mustache, hair, and then the very next day, jet black.
Like there was no transition, and it would just happen again and again, where everybody
at work was like, where they would just see him slowly deteriorate. And he would only
check in on his grooming there about every nine months. Being gray is not deterioration.
Right. Well, Roy's loving. Imagine your boss. He's the plan manager and they keep seeing
him. He's just whistling it like, hello, everybody. He's painted his hair poorly. He's a plan manager and they keep seeing him coming. He's just whistling in, like, hello everybody.
He's painted his hair poorly.
He's painted his eyebrows, like they were bushy and gray.
And then your boss shows up the next day
as if everything is just the same as it was the day before.
Do you think cowherd felt that the day he went on television
with totally orange hair?
With Trump's hair?
It was so garish that I believe he addressed it early on
and they still run those photos as promo
yeah well why wouldn't you I do want to get to some of the things going on in
football locally and Billy I'm sorry the Marlins got rained out last night
although you've got to get rained out you finally uh... billy that was an outrage
it led off to this morning's nothing personal
the fact that the met screwed up the tarp situation and are causing the
marlins to have this problem this week now
well i mean it it was negligence right because it seems like if you if you
reading twitter everyone seems like this is an a furious thing but from what i
can gather and maybe you know, it seems like they had a
tropical storm hurricane go through over the weekend.
There's a lot of rain on Saturday.
They covered the field, it was wet, they didn't uncover it.
The field was all soggy, they just decided,
we can't really fix this, and then they waited hours
and then it just decided we're gonna just have
a double header tomorrow, and that's that.
This is a giant week in Marlon's baseball.
I don't know the last one like this, David.
You presided over it probably.
It has been more than 10 years since we had a week
like this of baseball for the Marlon's.
And the match just did something that if they did it on purpose
and if it is nefarious,
they just screwed up the playing two games in one day isn't it's a competitive
disadvantage to have to play two games in one day.
Well, and it's not just the traditional competitive disadvantage of having to play two and win
two, which is difficult enough as it is, but this was a day where the Marlins were supposed
to be primarily using their bullpen because they're so injured in their starting rotation.
This was a bullpening day.
And so now you have a day where your bullpen
is potentially going to be exhausted
after Braxton Garrett start.
He's gonna have to go deeper into the game.
Going into a week when you need that bullpen
because you've got to save your season
to get to the playoffs.
And Braxton Garrett will have to start on short rest
on three days rest on Sunday.
Should the Marlins potentially need to win that game. It's just surprising to
me that this game wasn't an optional game on Monday should the Marlins needed. That's
the confusion that I have, David. So I would love to blame the Mets because had I still
been president, I would have lost my mind, but it's actually Commissioner's office decision
to do the double header. And that's the same thing that they did when the Yankees and Diamond
Backs had the issue. There was the question, will they play Monday after the season?
And they actually switched around a whole bunch of games.
They moved the White Sox Diamondbacks game by a day, so the Yankees could play the Diamond
backs.
The reason why baseball doesn't want to play the Monday after the regular season, why
there's no more game 163s, is they start promoting and marketing the playoffs, which start start in the third and they don't want to have any regular season games happening at all.
So that's why they're having a double header go today.
Terrible disadvantage to the Marlins, but they will start Garrett, but keep in mind Sunday
the Marlins own the tie breaker over everybody.
So all the Marlins have to do is be a game up and then they don't need to win at all
Thursday.
They're guaranteed is what you they've clinched the same.
So I'm not pitching Garrett Sunday.
Right.
If they they're going to clinch Saturday, it's possible they could go on Saturday.
So that's what they're going for.
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Jeremy and I had a situation or a solution, I think, David, that you may like and Dan,
you may like this too.
So in the event that you have obviously, that're gonna have a rundown bullpen here.
We're thinking who's out there.
What do you do?
Do you go down to the miners?
You bring someone up for a spot start
and we were talking Madison Bumgarner's
Perfume out there.
Oh, mad bum.
Mad bum.
You say, you know what?
This guy's got one game left in that arm.
You bring him in, you show some faith in him.
I like that.
Instead of Quedo.
Well, instead of starting Quedo,
I can start Quedo. Hold on, hold on. Dan, there's more to this. Now like that. Instead of Quedo. Well, instead of starting Quedo, I need to start Quedo.
Hold on, hold on.
Dan, there's more to this.
Now, there's also the designated hitter.
So what do you do?
You solve two problems with one.
You say, you know what, Joey Wendell?
You're going to take the day off from hitting.
We're going to have Madbum also hit.
You don't think he has one homer left.
Come on.
Oh, we know.
I think he has two, actually.
There's always a little bit left in the tank.
Billy, you can make jokes.
What joke?
Joe.
Billy's like my dad where you can tell by his tone
where he's going.
As soon as he started talking,
I was like, this is gonna be a ridiculous suggestion.
No, but not only is it a ridiculous suggestion.
So ridiculous.
It's not.
Okay, but Billy, your camouflageing, this is the thing.
Billy's good at this, man.
He is really good at this.
Billy cares this week. He cares and he's gonna hide his care from you
He's gonna hide it because he doesn't want you to see him hurt if they do not make it this team has hurt Billy
Many times this team is that man has heard me and you just bring him a parade him in front of my face
Sam Billy's defense Dan the key to caring is acting like you don't care
I mean he's been Billy's been doing the thing this week of they're gonna make the playoffs
and then get swept in the first round.
I don't know what he's doing there, psychological.
Well, that's probably gonna happen.
And that's why I feel bad.
I think that they are gonna, well,
headed into yesterday, I thought they were gonna make it
and then the braves did the more than the solid
which never happens.
No, the cops did the most solid.
The cops did the more than the three.
You can go kind of go back and forth and figure out
if that ball is ball-as-that.
You don't have a game that you're playing last night
and you can entertain with yourself with,
oh, the Cubs are going to come again.
They're going to drop flyballs in the outfield.
That was entertaining for you.
Billy, you care.
Well, I hate the Cubs too.
I hate the braves.
I would have caught that flyball.
Oh, just say that.
You would not.
What are you so hard to catch a fly ball.
Who is he telling you to?
No, BP ever.
David, it is harder than you.
Are you just saying I can't catch a routine fly ball?
Are you saying off the bat in the game?
Yes, off the bat over the game.
I mean, I've played softball and caught many fly balls.
There you go.
Moving to my room.
I'm just saying it's not an exact thing,
but I know how to catch a fly ball.
No, but it is different.
400 feet in the air at the top. All ready to go out to the field if you guys want to do it
We can recreate it
I'm telling you now that one of the things that you do not realize and it's a nightmare when the kids are doing the home run
Derby do remember the home run derby when kids are catching balls in the outfield
Then they get drilled in the face and they get drilled in the face Chris Cody's a grown man We could both do this absolutely catch a fly ball
That was a routine no I'm telling you that neither one of you would catch a ball off the bat. Okay, okay
This is what I don't think either one of them would catch a punt. I believe I believe all of us would drop a
Would drop a punt, but are the guys running at us?
Yes That's part of it.
Make it out of the way.
Yes, that is.
No, it's not just a routine punch, but now we're very catching up, moving away from the ball.
I will grant you guys that you might have been able to make yesterday's catch under certain
circumstances, though you wouldn't do it 10 out of 10 times. But going back to the warning track when you're playing in in right field to catch what
looks like a routine fly ball, but would not be routine to you guys would not catch that.
Agreed.
Zero out of 10 times.
Now this was a route like outside of Belinger coming over.
He clearly calls them off.
You see the hand gesture.
That's a routine fly ball for this guy.
We can get away from whether I would have done it. We can get away from whether I would have hand gesture. That's a routine fly ball for this guy. I'm barely moved. We can get away from whether I would have done it.
We can get away from whether I would have done it.
That's a routine fly ball, but I would have got it.
And you guys thought me saying mad bum pitching a giggle.
We have to try that.
That is no ridiculous.
Chris Cody, then you catching a major league fly ball.
Yes, a routine fly ball.
Yes.
Do you have a relationship with the Marlins currently?
Yes.
Can we get into loan deep hope, start me in right here with that? And not during the game, yes. You have a relationship with the Marlins currently. Yes. Can we get into loan depot part?
Start me and right, build it up.
And not during the game, obviously, when it's empty.
And have someone hit you.
True, so could be easier.
We're talking off a Fungo, a Fungo,
I'll probably catch 10 out of 10.
That's way more different.
Like a Fungo fly ball, not a Fungo fly ball.
You're saying like I want a big league hitter in bed.
I want you to be there for BP dude. I love all right
I would stop with the dudes. Okay. We got it. You think you could catch a routine fly ball
Congratulations athlete of the year. Thank you
Let's test it with both punts and what you think a routine fly ball because Chris
Chris is a high school baseball player and he hit a single one time to the opposite field
off Matt Latoes and he may be our finest athlete although Roy loves in my car.
Roy got further in American Ninja Warrior.
And Tony thinks he is.
But please don't become your father while I'm still alive.
Okay, thinking that you can do everything in sports.
I mean, we're there.
Okay.
Not everything. Just that fly ball.
I would have thought that.
Yes.
That's it.
Okay.
This will be great, great to do it.
Yes, we sure, we will.
I always wanted to do it.
And punt returns.
I want to do punt returns.
We'll win a catch.
With 11 guys coming in.
You're going to find a special team's unit.
Yes, I mean, I'm Metal Arc is going to rent
a special team's unit.
Yes. Just to run it. Yes. Make it
billionaire Columbus high school team. Doesn't have to be a
special team. Mike, what are you distracted by up there? What
are you watching on the just learning Brooks Robinson wasn't
dead for 40 years? And also upset. He's white. What? No, you
didn't know his first name is Brooks. Yeah. Well, I don't
know why he didn't know. Yeah, Brooks Robinson is a white man that what didn't die 40 years ago?
He died yesterday rest in peace all time great Chris you didn't know either that Brooks
No, I know I know I just help him my gut
I didn't know are you thinking of Frank? I
Will tell it's a thing they also had Frank didn't't they yes Yeah, they have a different people different people. Yeah, I know different people
Where they're friends? Well, he's a little bit before my time
I didn't watch a lot of Brooks Robinson
I'm just finding out the man didn't die 40 years ago. You mean vacuum cleaner. Tell me how to mourn
He dies at 86 yes, and I do thank you for bringing him up actually because
Not only is he a legend from a different time
and I get a little uncomfortable when the 80 year olds die in sports and people don't
actually remember how great they were because hey it was before you cared about sports,
all of you cared about sports, Roy what do you, it was before you cared about sports too,
Roy.
No, no, no, I know for a fact he was one of the best defense of their basement of all
time.
I know, but you know it because you heard it not because you're saying it. No, no, no, no, I know for a fact he was one of the best defense of their basement of all time I know but you know because you heard it not because you know I
I've seen highlights I've seen it
I've seen it I've seen it I've seen it I've seen it on I apologize for being born in the 80s
I
Don't need apology from you the thing that I saw yesterday in the
Ulygeizing of Brooks Robinson which I don't think most sports shows are gonna do because once you get to a certain age You got to be Bill Russell other Jim Brown or we won't do it correctly in the way that we you'll judge you
But Baltimore this is an athlete that matters to a city in a unique way Baltimore's good at baseball again
He started them caring about baseball that way
Generations in Baltimore know that name and the baseball there being played is the best it's been
Since maybe he was playing
But moose that city's history is such that when yesterday
This was my takeaway from the death of Brooks Robinson because they got Jim Palmer to talk about it.
He looks exactly the same.
Jim Palmer does not age.
Bro, I was startled.
I'm like, that guy's got to be Brooks Robinson to age.
How does he still look like when he was 30?
Same with me.
Just for everybody.
Just for everybody in the back and in the audience,
that isn't familiar with Jim Palmer I am.
But can you explain?
He's a beautiful model of a man.
He had a drink named after him.
He did, no that's not.
No, that's not.
No, no, no, no.
He did underwear ads.
Yeah, he did underwear ads, yes.
Jim Palmer is the underwear ad guy,
and it was very controversial.
He was a majorly baseball player
who did an actual, maybe in Haines, where he was in his Haynes undies.
And he had a great body and he was a great pitcher.
This is back when pitchers were pitching 250.
But he was a sex symbol.
He was a sex symbol.
Good calves.
It was jockey.
You don't need good calves when you're a sex symbol.
Jim Palmer.
The loose say they have good calves
so the people have bad bellies.
Put it on the pole at Leventage. Just acting you. Are the people who say they have good calves, so the people have bad bellies. Put it on the poll at Levitar
show. Are the people who say they have good calves, the people who have bad bellies?
It's probably beneficial for the good calves, honestly. So you're saying Jim Palmer looks
today like he did back in the 70s and he's just like Steve Garth. Find the eulogy and
you will laugh when you see what I am saying. He's the anti-Sami Sosa. Jim Palmer is a name
that might have fit in this sequence courtesy of the Braves television broadcast
So the Braves will go from Johnson to hand and the batter will be master boney
That's probably a good thing Jeff Frank was in the other booth
That is a crazy sequence of events there
How do they go from Johnson to hand?
To master boney Play that again, please.
So the Braz will go from Johnson to hand,
and the batter will be Master Boney.
That's probably a good thing, Jeff Frank Kurs in the other boot.
That is a perfect sentence, broadcaster.
I appreciate your rebellion.
Fridgey.
In the sacred sport of baseball,
where no one will make a good masturbation joke,
there it is for you.
So the Braz will go from Johnson to hand
and the batter will be master bony.
That's probably a good thing,
Jeff Frank Kuerz and the other boo.
That's our guy hand.
Remember him?
Yes, Marlon.
Well, he wasn't good here,
but he became an all-star when he left.
Well, we totally screwed his career.
Well, he became an all-star when he left.
He's still made good money,
but he should have been a better starter,
and we just brought him up too early and then ruined him by
Bring him up and down and making him his fencer was this small because every time he gave up a hit
He'd be looking over am I gonna be sent down?
Anyways, was master boney on your draft board?
No, no
I'm just blown away by the broadcast actually
eloquently being able to say the sentence get the joke off and
not break character because that never happens on any of the broadcast.
I am telling you that I am ready to put this sequence with do you believe in miracles as
the best thing a broadcaster has ever had the good fortune of happening upon.
Oh, this gem Paul.
Yeah, looks great.
Handsome.
Oh, it's Jackie. Yeah. Oh, this gem Paul. He looks great. Handsome. Yeah, he is, he is very handsome. And I just
can't believe that he does into age because it's like Tom baringer. Yes, yes, without the
dimple on his gym. Tom baringer. He looks like a much more fit leaner, uh, facially sculpted
Tom baringer. If you now watch a substitute, where Mark Anthony was the Anthony was the the rowdy high school in Mark Anthony
Yeah, he was he was the guy that was feuding with baringer the substitute was amazing
I'm thinking of major league era baringer Bunt a hit and score Wesley Snipes from second base as someone shaped like Jake burger a
Button run
My wife saw Jake burger the other day a third base and said, don't baseball players usually
look different than that?
And he's not anymore.
He's a player from yesterday.
Well, but he's a keg softball player.
It's so good.
He's crook.
He should play third base with a beer in his hand.
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Don't let it hard Mike Marty shot in Heimer passed away still got
So how did you say that?
I was excited. I was not excited
Really pointing out that a browns legend
I was not excited. Unbundly is really pointing out that a browns legend has to hold on.
That was amazing.
We had to go on a show and have a die.
Hold on, hold on.
And maybe the greatest coach to never win a Super Bowl.
OK, wait a minute.
Let's just everybody settle down.
That's all I've done here.
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There's a local sports story outside of the Marlins that I wanted to ask David about,
which was what happened at Hard Rock Stadium on Sunday, historic performance from the Miami Dolphins
and Mike McDaniel decided to ease up at the very end
and a former team president that sold ticket subs
after the fact to a perfect game.
I'm wondering how a team president,
if you were the team president of Miami.
Ticket subs of Roy Halliday throwing a perfect game
against you.
What's your team president had on?
I can't tell if you're that was an insult or a compliment.
I mean, you decided to do it.
It's an insult that you did.
Why?
Compliment for me.
Thank you.
How would David Samson, the team president, process what Mike McDaniel did?
That's so badly I need allies.
That's right.
You were so pleased that you got support.
So, so, so, die and lie over here.
But this is your allies to do.
Put it on the poll, please,
Judu, at Levitade show.
Put it on the poll.
Should you be very upset if
Stugots is your ally on anything?
You shouldn't say thank you. I mean, I'm not going to say that. Should you be very upset if Stugat is your ally on anything?
You shouldn't say thank you.
I don't understand what's happening around here.
What was happening in the studio?
You were beginning to say you were doing nothing personal.
We should tell everybody here that you should check out nothing personal on the Levitard
and Friends Network.
And Stugat's heard you singing air supply for some reason.
I was singing air supply.
Yes you were.
I thought, did we not build soundproof studios?
It was so loud we can hear it.
We could hear you, we could talk the morning meeting.
We heard your show throughout our morning meeting.
Yes, we could hear everything you were talking about.
I was not aware of that.
I thought that the studio was soundproof.
It is, but someone left the door open in the other room where it was over the speaker. How would you have processed the
mic mic Daniel thing? So I'm going to give you an answer. What happened there? Supply.
You got to get the record. You absolutely have to score 73 points. And the reason is that
you can monetize that. Number one, number two, in six months,
no one remembers that you went for the field goal at the end to get it.
What they have is the record forever that you are the holder of scoring the most points ever.
You're so close. And McTaniel said,
oh, we would let the record come to us only. We're not going to chase it.
Well, that's Horsaki. Of course you chase records.
That's the point of it,
because then you get to be permanently remembered.
But when you talk about making money,
the dolphins, like, don't football teams do well.
So, like, the Marlins would need to look for every avenue
to generate revenue.
You're talking about a franchise that's lived off 1972
for 50 years.
Yeah, but it's not like they're selling things for that
every year. Yes, but really are. like they're selling things for that every year.
Yes, they really are.
What are they selling?
Have you gone into the team store at all?
They do.
Chris, your father?
Look right next to you.
Yeah, but he didn't just buy that.
Chris, your father?
Did he buy that in 1973?
Chris, your father has a book out right now that was only written because they were perfect
in 1972.
It's 50 years of celebrating the dolphins.
Your father!
Okay.
I bought this shirt in 2021.
Put it on the pole, please, that Labatard show.
Can you sell ticket stubs after the game
to a perfect game thrown against you?
How are you not embarrassed by that?
Not even a little, that a boy.
That absent.
I didn't say it, learned my life was didn't say it. I was gonna go with
Crosseus. Maybe a little mercy. How much did you guys make out of that stud? How much did
your dignity cost you? First of all, we actually bought some too because we wanted to jack
up and try to. It was something that inner Miami day.
I wanted to fake, I wanted to fake the attendance numbers.
So he signed tickets to a game that had already been played a perfect game against them.
God, that's terrible.
It's way better.
The number of people who bought the ticket stubs after the game was smaller than I would have liked.
So we bought a bunch of them so we could announce that it was a huge number so as to make it a good idea.
How many do you have?
How much do you think it netted?
I have so many.
How much?
And I don't want to tell you where they are.
I want to know how many so Valley of Valley of Valley of Valley.
How much did you...
Because you died.
How much?
Oh, that...
Well, that's what happened.
Well, I'm just telling you like a baseball car.
The value goes up so much when you get to the hall of fame or when you die.
Yes, thank you. Thank you.
I celebrate.
Thank you.
David's not laughing at Roy Halliday's misfortune.
I am not laughing.
That's Roy Halliday's Roach Robinson card.
I mean, whoa.
I am not. That's Roy.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got.
He's got. He's got. He's got. He's got. He's got. I have a lot of stubs to his perfect game that are worth a lot of money that went unsold
because I couldn't, I was faking the numbers
around the tickets.
How much money did you make on the Roy Halliday tickets?
What's the amount of money that your dignity cost you?
30K.
Marlins need that.
Marlins need the 30K.
I also could use some dignity, especially back then.
I am not willing to let go of this
as a great idea. All right. There was something that inner Miami did that reminded me of you.
You died, but not you. You will not die on this hill. Absolutely not. What inner Miami did,
that reminded me of David Samson was a couple of years ago, they made the very bizarre decision. The logo was very well received.
Pink was a color unique to them in the league,
and they decided to try out white uniforms
that have since been purged and replaced by the home pinks.
It was a terrible misstep by Inter Miami early
on they had a lot of those.
But, seizing an opportunity, they've decided to put messy number 10 on the
back of leftover white jerseys that messy is never worn.
And if you go to the team store, you'll see messy number 10 on white jerseys that were largely
hated by the fan base, a jersey that he never wore, and they are selling them at a premium.
How proud are you of that?
How proud are you of that to be a fan of a team
that's actually being run like a business?
Hmm.
That's a bad look.
It has since been aggregated.
It's an embarrassing look to be selling something
in the team store that he never wore.
You're trying to get one over on a fan base.
It's just not a great look.
It never even occurred to me that someone,
a player had to wear something to sell it.
We would have players, and we'd put their names
on an old Marlon's jersey, a new Marlon
we would put on the old teal.
Yeah, but you wear throwbacks.
Like, jazz chiseled is pictured inside wearing
the teal uniform.
Messi will never wear that white jersey.
Why?
It's left over from years ago.
Am I, you should've.
Amalesch changes jerseys.
You're allowed to change one set every two years.
So you'll get introduced one new kit.
It's not like you're a poor,
all the kids are replaced every year.
Amalesch is different with the Deedas.
You get one new kit every year.
We're talking about several years of past since this.
It's just, it's not a throwback
that they'll wear again one day.
It's just an old jersey that they had in the corner somewhere.
But you're paying messy a lot of money.
You can use his name and like this however you want
and why not use it to sell shirts that weren't so-
If I'm not saying it's a bad business idea,
I'm just saying it's the optics of it.
If I may, okay, because this line to me
is interesting where David resides on it,
because I don't know if he actually
is bad look greedy running sports and filing it under. Hey, this is good business. Get your romance
away from me. I need to make $30,000. Don't tell me about how I'm cheapening this thing you care
about. This thing I care about, if I'm Samson, is a business I have to run that needs to make $30,000 because we don't have enough fans. And all of it's uncomfortable. But I
don't know where the line is for David if there's anything that you can say
Mike that is a bad look if he can merchandise it. And you want this romance with
your sports commerce and he's like it's commerce. Like you want me to treat it
like I'm not gonna cheapen it because it's messy.
I paid messy a lot of money, I gotta make my money back.
There is no cheapening it.
I'm gonna sell all the jerseys I can.
I'm not gonna protect his name with sacred candles
the way you're doing it.
I'm gonna go grab it in the extra dollar if I can.
And why is it cheapening?
Why are you using that word?
Because of how he cares about it emotionally
and romantically.
Because it's very clear that there was just
leftover overstocked old jerseys that they
that someone that thinks like David Samson.
I'm not saying that as an insult.
So all right.
We've been paying to just stock this stuff.
Let's purge this stuff.
Slap number 10 on it and we have this new revenue stream.
It's pretty smart, especially since a lot of the people that are buying messy merch
aren't necessarily legacy intermiami fans if there is even such a thing. It's a bunch of
people that are there for the show, that are there for the sparks and the shiny new thing,
and they don't know that messy never wore that jersey. They'll do that.
They care. That's the point is they don't care. And what's the downside? It doesn't change
your...
Have they been embarrassed by it?
I don't actually. David, the the downside they're embarrassed because you want them
They have inside they have cut some corners. I they they I don't know what happened with the PA announcer
But they let go of the PA announcer new person's in there and it it kind of sounded minor league the person the PA announcer
Didn't even say players last names when they were getting subbed in and out he tripped over his own players names
They are cutting some corners
while they have absolutely improved on the presentation.
There's all sorts of pyro.
I've got to tell you though, I really do.
It's never been this crystal clear to me
on how it is that David Viewsports versus
how even someone like Mike who is an adult
still cares unreasonably and emotionally about sports.
You ask what difference does it make? How many things I'm cheapening? Mike, you lost Mike as a
Marlins fan. That's what the cost is. Mike used to care about that team. He does not anymore because
what that team did was so corporate because it cheap and South Florida
two championships they win and everything that surrounds you is is killing that and you
do it matter of factly it's why I love having you talk here because it's like here's how
they all do it people I'm just the one telling you they all do it this way I'm surrounded
in the big leagues in the suites by me's everywhere they all do it but the rest of them
are better at hiding it and he's giving you all the secrets.
it in the big leagues in the suites by mees everywhere. They all do it, but the rest of them are
better at hiding it. And he's giving you all the secrets.