The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Greg Cote Birthday Monolong

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cote, Chris, Billy, Jessica, and Mike. Dan begins today's show with a touching tribute to Greg Cote and their friendship on Greg's 70th birthday. The crew celebrates G...reg, discusses the birthday episode of The Greg Cote Show with Greg Cote, and analyzes whether or not he should "follow the light" as Dan suggested. Then, we get back to some serious news as the body cam footage from the Tyreek Hill detainment has been released. Dan, Stugotz, Greg, and the Shipping Container watch and listen to the video and share their thoughts on the nationwide problem in policing. Plus, Tyreek Hill's agent Drew Rosenhaus joins the show to unveil the details of what he witnessed on Sunday. He discusses the unacceptable actions from the officers who violently detained Hill, how his other clients reached out to get him to the scene, and the discussions between Hill and the officers after the tensions settled. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Eligibility and member terms apply. Now's a good time to remember where the story of Tequila started. In 1795, the first Tequila distillery was opened by the Cuervo family. And 229 years later, Cuervo is still going strong. Family owned from the start, same family, same land. Now's a good time to enjoy Cuervo,
Starting point is 00:00:43 the tequila that invented tequila. Go to Cuervo.com to shop tequila or visit a store near you. Cuervo, now's a good time. Trademarks owned by Beckley, SAB, the CV, copyright 2024, próximo. Jersey City, New Jersey, please drink responsibly. I'd like to take a minute on this Greg Cote Tuesday to talk to you a little bit about fathers and brothers and sons and the treasure chests of concealed love that can be unearthed around men and their oafy masculinities if you care enough to do the digging. Perhaps you've heard me say that the greatest professional blessing I've ever known for eight years on ESPN was getting old next to my old man on your television.
Starting point is 00:01:23 That whole thing was ridiculous. It made us closer than we've ever been, and I honestly can't believe that I got to do any of that in his second language no less, and the gratitude in it will overwhelm me on the days I sink into thinking that one day, Poppy will be gone. I celebrated his 81st birthday with him this last weekend,
Starting point is 00:01:44 surrounded by photographs of the youngest son he lost a year ago. So mortality has been on my mind a lot more than I would like. But if you really make me think about it, I might say that I've had only one professional blessing that rivals working with my old man. And it's working, believe it or not, with the other old man I've had the blessing of sharing with you over these many years, Greg Cody. I've worked at his side a lot longer than I did with Poppy,
Starting point is 00:02:11 nearly 40 years, since I was 19, literally a teenager. And it's come with a lot more laughs, comfortable and proud as Greg is of his endless river of oddities. He's stubborn, he's weird, he's loyal, he's loving. And he's made me feel like family from the very start. Our relationship began, you could say, before I even met him. I still remember that story that Cody wrote about former University of Miami wide receiver Michael Irvin and his late father and his late father's hat.
Starting point is 00:02:44 It didn't merely make me want to be a better writer that story. It made me know for sure that I wanted to be a writer at all. To me, Greg was an idea and an inspiration before he was a person. He had touch and he made me feel before he was someone I could either touch or feel. I don't know that I had ever envied another writer
Starting point is 00:03:05 before reading that story about Irvin's love and loss, Cody's grace with words, a little poetry, a little song, a lot of feeling. We tease him too much on Tuesdays, but it's not an overstatement to say that this man genuinely taught me, guided me, inspired me, and helped me better understand what I wanted from writing, work and life.
Starting point is 00:03:30 When I got to the University of Miami, very much searching, I'd stand way down below as a student and see him up high in the press box at football and baseball games, closer to the big lights where my dreams were, and I would wish that I was him. Quite literally, I looked up to him from the start. He was my very first friend at the Miami Herald back when I was scared, super scared. I was an intern. He told a joke in my ear in the Herald cafeteria
Starting point is 00:03:59 and then wrapped an arm around me and insisted I come sit with all my childhood idols. You do not forget the people who make you feel like you belong. You do not forget the people who make you feel like you've arrived. Belonging, arriving, these are things I associate with home and my closest and most personal access to home professionally often has Greg Cody, if not holding the keys to the house, at least drinking a beer on the couch. Greg is, as they say of the deepest friendships, the family I chose. You see it and hear it every Tuesday, whether he's dancing with the golden oldies or
Starting point is 00:04:40 missing the hard network out. But you would have seen it and heard it any time we were together at any point over the last 35 years since the first day we met. And he made me feel like newspapers were exactly where I needed to live. He was part mentor and part guide. And he made it real simple for me. All I had to do was follow the laughter. Just keep following the laughter. You're getting warmer, Dan. Warmer to all the things you want. Just follow the laughter. Keep following the laughter. It'll get you to where you want to be, where you want to live, where you want to work, to the people you want to be around, to the people you want to share your life with, to be the man you want to be, the one who can protect your friend
Starting point is 00:05:34 and his son and their family and your family as everyone grows old together. Just follow the laughter. It'll do more than set you free. It'll make you feel free too. Really feel it. In all the places where gratitude lives so deeply that when you press on it, it will overflow around the heart and it'll leak right out of your eyes. The very best things in life are pretty simple sometimes. I like being around him always, especially when he's annoying me like a big brother might because he makes me laugh and that makes me feel better. It's medicine for me and you. You see it and know it and feel it in a way that doesn't even need to be said to our most loyal listeners, the one who feel like they actually know us and
Starting point is 00:06:23 what we're actually about, because they actually do. You can't fake what Tuesdays are around here. Cody and I did a South Beach session about our relationship and I would urge you to listen to it. What gets brought out when we're together will do more justice to our friendship than I'll be able to do here sitting alone. But Cody is, as you know, past the syrup of all this. A wonderful flaw disguised as a human being. Self-involved beyond all reason. Belly full of beer cans. Washes his hair with shampoo in the pool. Doesn't just throw out the stinky deck shoes he has worn without socks for 30 years, but
Starting point is 00:07:00 buries them in the backyard in an ornate funeral. My wife will tell you, there might not be anyone else in the world who makes me instantly happier right upon sight. I wanted to share something else with you now though as we spend this entire year celebrating the 20th anniversary of this show, celebrating 20 years of friendship with each other and with you on the air. I've been scared a lot the last few years, a lot, more
Starting point is 00:07:25 than I've ever been. It really is a terrible place to live in that dark inside of a certain terror. And I will tell you now exactly when that fear first started long before my brother died, this creeping sense of mortality that haunts and was never around before I turned 50. I remember the distinct cold blowing through me right after we left the ESPN, when I was still in the bowels of a Clevelander that was falling apart with busted pipes
Starting point is 00:07:52 and faulty bathrooms and an assortment of rots brought by living for years near the sea. Cody, who had already had a tumor removed from his chest, would not stop coughing, could not stop coughing. My good friend was having trouble breathing and sleeping and was having trouble hiding it as well and too stubborn to go to the doctors about it to boot. He tried to hide it so poorly during the pandemic that he would pass out coughing on the floor. So afraid was he of being seen in public as a viral strain. On the phone, in the studio, that
Starting point is 00:08:24 cough felt like an alarm for me. I don't know how much more overt a sound would have to be to warn you that time is short. This was very much a siren, a warning, not to value each moment. I couldn't see that from there. Death hadn't visited yet. Grief hadn't yet left its mark. So the lesson then wasn't to value each moment, it was to fear that any might be the last. And fear and gratitude could have trouble living in the same place if you aren't conscious about it. You can choose to run away from that fear,
Starting point is 00:08:56 as I did at the time, or you can choose to run into it with the knowledge that you don't have to choose dark when there's still light. I didn't quite know when I lost my brother that I'd look up and realize that there was another who was there all along. I don't need to tell you or Greg that I love him. You know this, he knows this,
Starting point is 00:09:16 you feel it, he feels it, I feel it. But we've got enormous plans around his 70th birthday this month as our show celebrates 20 years together and Greg and I celebrate being together almost twice that long. So happy 70th birthday to Greg Cody, my beloved friend, your beloved friend, our beloved friend. We do not know how much time we have left with any of the people we love, but we're gonna celebrate this one like we know in our hearts that filled too deeply with love and loss That we aren't promised anything beyond the joy of today
Starting point is 00:09:49 That's the gift we get to share together with this lovable old man every Tuesday and every day But especially on his birthday the joy with gratitude and love together of Getting to open the present and love together of getting to open the present. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show.
Starting point is 00:10:23 DraftKings, the crown is yours. DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. And happy birthday to him! I don't care! Good luck! Next time just say happy birthday. Yeah, Greg. Greg, I texted you happy birthday this morning. Don't let that whole piece overshadow my message to you.
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, your text was heartfelt. Yeah. Happy to see thatadow my message to you. Cheers. Your text was heartfelt. Yeah. Happy to see that you're still with us. Right. I walked in late and I thought you were dead. Midway through that I was worried. I was glad to see you in the seat. I think we said this is his last birthday, so enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Dan certainly made it feel that way. He doesn't think there's gonna be a 71. Sorry to tell you, Greg. Monologue, more like monologue. I heard that joke in my ear while I was doing You know how hard it is to do that while Stugats is telling Billy monologue And and when I hear him complaining do I wear four minutes left? I thought Mike Lupica was gonna pick up where you left off Was your editor out sick or something? It was a little wordy. I have to admit but you know midway through that I'm thinking to myself, you know, this is very well spoken, well said, well
Starting point is 00:11:29 written. I want this guy to do my eulogy when that time comes. He just did. Yeah, just happy I got replayed. Save the date though. Save the date for my eulogy. Well, it's this year, so. Yeah. I did not say anywhere in there that was not a hot take prediction that he's going to die within the next year You said celebrate this birthday because the next one's not guaranteed Celebrate all birthdays because none of the next ones are guaranteed. So we're all dying now, not just Greg Tell you what when I turn 39 skip me. There's only one of you I wish would die I wish would die. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Let's guess. I feel like it's me. It could be anybody. Could be anybody. HR? Yeah. With that? Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Could be directed at anybody. It was directed at me. No. You piece that together. I did. Yeah. Not necessarily. Listen, this is a hell of a 20th anniversary I'm having.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I mean, Dan is having sex with everyone but me. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Talking about boo, what a great show they could have had. Greg Cody was his first choice. Listen, you're stuck with me. I'm the best thing that ever happened to you. I don't care what you say. I mean. Studios got a cuck chair and you're in it, pal. For your 70th birthday, we give you the greatest gift possible, a star dolphin arrested outside the stadium. Yeah, yeah, that's the gift that keeps on giving.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I gotta write more about that right after the show today. It'll be online late this afternoon, so your birthday gift to me could be clicking on that column. Doesn't cost you anything. Right. Now, Dad, are you, you were disappointed in me for not having Dan appear in the Greg Cody show for your birthday episode, and I didn't because I knew, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:06 he was gonna say some nice stuff for you here. Does it now make sense why I did not have Dan on the Greg Cody show? Yeah, we had a cavalcade of guests. Listen to the show because on the Greg Cody show, which is the new episode's out now, we do a birthday celebration of May as well as I talk a lot about the Dolphins win
Starting point is 00:13:22 and the Tyreek Hill stuff. I didn't really ask you to plug the episode. Wow, that was just straight promotion you went into it wanted to talk to you about some of the content around it that you probably got mad at him because i wasn't on that episode you went straight to salesman antiseptic promotion of what's on your part of the question i asked you yeah i get it i sort of get it i still think you know maybe he could have given me a 30-second You wanted to hear that twice?
Starting point is 00:13:47 He wanted more No! A 30-second version Well no, hold on a second There is no 30-second version In Greg's defense, it's like me getting my daughter a PS5 for her birthday Like it's Greg's show for his birthday be on his podcast Yeah
Starting point is 00:14:00 And you're like, let's put it here That's what I'm thinking But my executive producer of my show wouldn't do it Well I I knew how long that was I was like it's gonna be redundant Hmm well, I wouldn't expect that I mean that was truly You know that that left me for clumped. I mean that was did you cry at all tear up? You know I I naturally tear just because what I have my mother's eyes, right? Yeah literally Ruth Doogie used to Have tearing eyes, not related to emotion or crying.
Starting point is 00:14:29 She would just, her eyes would get all moist and tear. And so do mine. I'm on the road today, a hellish trip to the studio. Terrible. Terrible. Just extra bad. I'm following ways, you know, and it let me down. And then my gas light comes on, so I'm sweating. I'm following ways you know and it let me down and then my gas light comes on so I'm sweating I'm rolling down my windows I'm all clammy and I called him I'm like dad you don't need like you got 38 miles on your range you're good you have 16 miles to go and meanwhile cars not passing me by because we're all going so slow you're looking over you're seeing another guy stop just like you are and and I'm practically cheering they think I'm crying because I'm stuck in traffic, but we got here. Okay traffic made you cry more than the monologue
Starting point is 00:15:12 As Ruth sighs he has Ruth sighs I'm not even certain he was crying during the monologue I mean follow the laughter whatever you do follow the laughter Avoid the light and follow the laughter no the monologue was emotional no Mike no Mike you follow the light and follow the laughter. No the monologue was emotional No, Mike you follow the laughter and into the light you don't avoid It's definitely me either way just say follow the light seven I didn't say who I wanted to die all right follow the laughter and do it 17 times over listen Going into the light is a metaphor for dying So I don't think I'm gonna look for the light right live in front of the light knowing that you might die laughing Don't avoid you know be the light get the warmth from the light. I'd rather be the light. How about happy birthday? Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Does anybody actually die laughing? Has that ever happened? Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBretard Show. Has anyone actually died laughing? With my last breath, I want to go, ha ha ha ha! You have fainted laughing a couple times. You control that, I think. That's almost happened here, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 He wants Taylor to walk into the light, by the way. Yeah, there's a subtle difference. There's like two dozen things that you could die doing that I would say he died doing what he loved. Plugging his podcast, talking about himself. Miller Lite. Being the center of attention would absolutely be high on the list of how it is
Starting point is 00:16:43 that Greg Cody wants to die. Center of attention with Jimmy Buffett singing nearby. Yeah. Oh. Too bad you couldn't arrange that. Jimmy's tied up. Should've gotten to him sooner. Yeah, I failed.
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Starting point is 00:17:53 Wisconsin, 96 calories per 12 ounces. Fewer cows and carbs than premium regular beer. Don Lebatard. It's been a Lee Cruz Oh, man, that's my outro that's uh, you know as my casket is being lowered Jesus You know, I'll have been cremated a week before but we'll do the casket thing just for show and as my casket is being Yeah, you know just for show well, what's the redundancy there? Yeah, it'll be empty. Just for show, we're gonna do that. Well, what's the redundancy there? You know, I mean, we're gonna put on a public display. Yeah, naturally. Stugats.
Starting point is 00:18:32 What do you do with the ashes? You're going on a lovely cruise. Exactly, maybe we'll throw them over, my wife will throw them overboard. I would assume. As she's nicking with her new husband. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. But for your birthday, I again will say we give you the gift of a star dolphin receiver
Starting point is 00:18:56 being arrested in the safest place that he could have been outside of the field. Detained, by the way. Yeah, he was not arrested. Forgiveness. Once you're on your stomach with your handcuffs behind your back, you are being arrested. Like that's- Detained. No, it's a place between detained and arrested.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's detained. When they close the cell, you've been arrested. I'm gonna say that that felt like an arrest. I think it's the Miranda rights, but maybe it's the cell door. Yeah, I think when they close the cell door, you've been jailed. Okay. But that feels like you've been arrested. You're right.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I think it's one of those things that like if it feels like you're being arrested, then you can say you've been arrested. Yeah, it did look like an arrest for about 10 seconds. I'm kind of worrying or wondering how that all ended because like we saw the escalation. We saw Kaleus in there, we saw Jonah in there, we saw all of it, we didn't see how they finally set it on, like, okay, you're free to go. We're gonna play some of this,
Starting point is 00:19:52 because they knew he was a dolphin, there is that body cam as well, but this can be and is, to me, both appalling and watching the video, totally unsurprising how it is that that escalated that way. It's how those things escalate. I remember Stugatz, the Spike Lee movie, Do the Right Thing in college. I had a very sort of antiseptic childhood in Miami. It was just ethnic with my culture. It did not have all of the ethnicities of
Starting point is 00:20:25 Miami so when I'm watching do the right thing in Spike Lee I'm being introduced to how something can escalate when there are a lot of tensions and then at the end the system falls on the black guy and radio Rahim is dying in the street because he looks like a menace the way Kaleus Campbell might look like a menace if that kept escalating now that we have all of the video on these things and i don't know who slaters andy slater sources are in the police department he's got good ones like in the history of this market i don't know that we've had outside of edna buchanan somebody who's got the police sources that this person
Starting point is 00:20:57 has but now we've all seen what it is that happened here and i'd like to examine it together because I don't recognize totally those accents I'm not good at telling Hispanic accents apart But it sounds like the police officers are people who learn the language in this country It sounds like I recognize enough of the accents to be like wait a minute these these people are not necessarily from here They learned English while here after coming from somewhere else is what I heard in the accent That's not what I heard. I heard your traditional Miami accent. So let's see
Starting point is 00:21:29 I want to hear I want to examine this together and I want to I want to go over what it is That is in this video and audio. Yeah, not a language barrier Keep your window down. Hey, keep your window down. Keep your window down, I'm going to get you out of the car. As, I'm gonna get you out of the car. As a matter of fact, get out of the car. Give me your ass, get out of the car. Give me your ass, or I'll break that freaking window. Get out of the car.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Get out of the car right now. We're not playing this game. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out.
Starting point is 00:22:21 What part of that are you in this thing? Hey, Drew, hey, Drew, I'm getting, hey Drew, I'm getting arrested Drew. I'm getting arrested. I'm getting arrested Drew. I'm getting out bro, god damn. Tweed. When we tell you to do something, you do it. I'm getting out.
Starting point is 00:22:36 You understand? I'm getting out. Not what you want, but what we tell you. I'm getting out. You're a little f***ing confused. I'm getting out bro. Too late, too late. Alright bro, take me to jail.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Bro, do what you gotta do bro. We are. Hold on, hold on. Hold on bro. I just had surgery on my knee. I just had surgery on my knee bro. I just had surgery on my knee bro. I just had surgery on my knee bro.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I just had surgery on your ears when we go there. Bro, chill bro, chill bro. Hey, don't do bro. Back up. Hey, call Drew, call Drew, call Drew. Man, they got Tyreek. The cops over here beating on them. They over here beating on Tyreek man.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Who's the driver? This man. This man. This man. This man. This man. This man. This man. Hey, Joe New, bruh! Back up! Hey, call Drew! Call Drew! Call Drew! Man, they got Tariq. The cops over here beating on them, man. They over here beating on Tariq, man. Who's the driver? This is my car.
Starting point is 00:23:10 All right, move. You gotta move right now. Let me have your license. You're gonna take it, too. I'm coming. Let me have your license. You're gonna take it. Let me have your license.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I'm leaving. I'm not playing. Let me have your license. I'm leaving. Yo, what's going on? Your license right now. What's going on, man? Your license right now.
Starting point is 00:23:22 You're not gonna give me your license? Hey, hey, hey. You're not gonna give me your license? I'm leaving. Let me have your license. Your license right now. Sir's going on? Your license right now. You're not going to give me your license? Hey, hey, hey. You're not going to give me your license? I'm leaving. Let me have your license. I'm leaving. Your license right now. Sir, you want me to leave?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Hey, your license right now. I'm leaving, I'm leaving. Or I'm going to lock you up. Your license right now. Serve and protect. Trained in de-escalation. I mean, you mentioned before the video that you could see it escalate. It escalates by the dudes that are supposed to de-escalate the situation and the calmest ones are the guys on the receiving
Starting point is 00:23:49 end of it. You have Tariq saying, hey, just give me a ticket, I have to get to work. He is saying, hey, whatever I did wrong, fine, write the ticket up, I need to get to work. This is going to be met where we are in this country by a whole lot of people not hearing it the way that you just heard it, saying i recast ago yes or no sir right off the top and help like they're a whole lot of people listening this warren saying that the escalation started with the police they will say that the escalation started with tyreek hill not completely all beating or be obeying in a
Starting point is 00:24:21 subservient fashion police who were going to abuse their power if he get them with arrogance because of everything that drives up their speeding black expensive car and god knows the amount of hostility those motorcycle cops have because they're short and motorcycle cops like no no joke there's a whole lot of shit happening before we get to where it is that they have a divide between what's inside tyreek hills car and what's
Starting point is 00:24:50 outside his car and many many people will not change their mind by seeing that video and say all tyreek was wronged there they will say no right off the top you all day but policing began with slave chasing that's how police began that we've created
Starting point is 00:25:12 around the football somehow blackballing the quarterback who told us can we stop that can we stop that and things that work like that and then the answers now we can't stop it. Get out of the league, Kaepernick. And now Tyree Hill is on CNN. He's calling his agent in the middle of that.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Drew Rosenhouse is going to be here shortly to talk to us. But Greg, your thoughts on what it is that you're seeing there. Yeah, I was told that when he referred to Drew, get Drew, get Drew, the Dolphins director of security who deals with police matters like this he also has the first name Drew so he may have been referring to him but I think Tyreek did one thing that legit was wrong which is rolled up his darkly tinted window when the cop was talking to him I think that in retrospect was wrong but overriding all that I think this is a gross the Tyreke was caught driving
Starting point is 00:26:06 while black. That was his crime. And it was a gross exaggeration, overreaction by the police. I thought it was a plain abuse of power. I didn't think, when they, when they put him so quickly and so forcefully to the ground, that's how George Floyd started, right? Okay? Ten minutes later, one of their boots could have been on his neck. I mean, this kind of thing gets overblown quick and turns deadly quick, and that's why the reaction to this is not an overreaction. This is pretty serious and pretty damning to the Miami Dade Police Department, in my opinion. It really is. It's gross, it's disgusting, it's an abuse of power, but when Tariq says afterwards after the fact, I rolled up my window because people walking by, people coming
Starting point is 00:26:52 by would have taken pictures of me, are you okay with that? Are you more okay with that? This is what I would say to you, okay? Trying to be maximum understanding to police officers who in my mind and my experience in miami do not deserve this kind of maximum understanding it's a difficult job and i understand why you would see kalei is campbell and find him threatening and i also understand when a window gets rolled up and i can see in there are you going for something like i
Starting point is 00:27:21 can understand in miami how you would arrive at you need to roll that window down because i mean to see what it is i need to see that's happening inside your car but their job it isn't to do all of the things that instigate that to a higher level and i can also say hirik you need to not be arrogant in that spot i can say that but they can treat him like a human being once faced with
Starting point is 00:27:45 that arrogance instead of doing what they did which is show everybody know we have the power over here you don't have the power to do anything that you want here you will listen to us you will obey let's get the other sound word becomes clear from uh... from nearby that they knew who they were arresting so this isn't even a matter of ignorance they're going over there with the knowledge that it would be
Starting point is 00:28:11 pretty unlikely that a dolphin star receiver is going to shoot at them near the stadium uh... start that's the f word upon learning that. And to be fair, I don't know if the cops knew that going in. Like he looks at the ID and says, you know who that is. That's one of the Dolphin Star players, which is responded to by a loud F word.
Starting point is 00:28:39 This is, when all this stuff happened, everyone was saying, let's not rush to judgment. We didn't, we don't know what happened here. I think a lot of people kind of knew what happened there, especially those that grew up down here and knew everything there is to know about the cop and just had all their biases confirmed in all the doxxing that has happened since,
Starting point is 00:28:59 from the level of education to probably his friend group and who this person surrounds himself with. This is a problem across the nation. to probably his friend group and who this person surrounds himself with. This is a problem across the nation. What you saw play out is not just unique to Miami but also very Miami in the complex of these police officers. The video that we just saw there was after, the second video was after he had been detained and they were realizing who it is that they had arrested. Right, not on the front end. They have his license and they're saying hey this is the Dolphin Star player. How
Starting point is 00:29:32 about what happened to John Woo there which is you have one police officer telling you in a crazy moment where John Woo doesn't know what's happening he's approaching hey get back in your car get off another cop comes, undermining the first cop saying, in the extended video, you're dealing with me now, give me your ID while you're getting back in your car. And John who is literally getting three different directions in a half second span. He's like, I'm leaving. And that other cop just tries to keep escalating, keep escalating, saying, you know what, I'm going to put you under arrest too.
Starting point is 00:30:01 All this happens within a finger snap and all John New Smith is doing is literally backing up, trying to understand and saying out loud what he is seeing. Drew Rosenhouse next. TD, Tuddy, taking it to the house. Whatever you call a touchdown, they matter more at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official Sportsbook partner of the NFL. Ready to place your first NFL bet?
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Starting point is 00:31:34 All of us know him. He is a gentle giant. And Darlington was quick in that moment to say, well, you don't know when all of that is coming towards you, a giant man. You don't know when all of that is coming towards you a giant man you don't know any of that and so someone in a threatened situation might find that extra threatening someone of that size so I want to make the clarification from back there where I'm saying well I know this person it's hard for me to imagine that person being being kind of enraged since we've known him since college that that would be the kind of enraged, since we've known him since college,
Starting point is 00:32:05 that would be the kind of threatening that it might look like. Originally, the cops did not know who Tariq Hill was. There's no way they know who Kaleus Campbell or Janu Smith is. Well, but Tariq Hill might not look like a football player. There is no misunderstanding that Kaleus Campbell looks like someone who could play football.
Starting point is 00:32:24 So Drew Rosenhouse is with us now, and it's been a long time since I've talked to Drew and I saw him sweaty in the middle of the field. All of that looked uncomfortable and also a position that Drew Rosenhouse has been in a few times in front of cameras. So he joins us now and Drew thank you for joining us what can you tell us you know now that you didn't know when you were talking to the media right before the game well I admire what Tyreek is doing right now guys he's in the process of trying to organize a forum discussion with the chief of police of Miami Dade, anyone
Starting point is 00:33:08 else here in South Florida that wants to get involved. Tariq has said to me, as traumatic as an event as this was, he wants to take this negative and try to turn it into a positive. We talked about all the things that athletes have tried to do over the years like Colin Kaepernick and others and to see this type of treatment continue to happen. He's gonna take a different tact here and try to meet with some leaders
Starting point is 00:33:42 to bring people together to follow the rules. The way that Tyreek said the rule book, what police are trained to do. That wasn't the case on Sunday. So Tyreek is adamant about being an agent for change and talking to the Dolphins, the NFL, Troy Vincent, the seniorphins, the NFL, Troy Vincent, the senior vice president of the NFL, the players coalition, the NFL PA, everyone is behind Tyreek and there's just a lot
Starting point is 00:34:17 of momentum right now to turn this into an example of how we can take a negative and turn it into a positive. You were careful in the moment not to make any allegations and what you're saying is that going forward? None will be made because everyone here is trying to now de-escalate this and turn it into a teaching moment versus saying Any one of the things that could be said here about a black man being handled poorly by police. I think number one Dan there's no question that Tyreech wants to improve relationships between the police and society.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And to see this type of thing happening, in particular with black people and non-black or Latino or white police officers, this is not unfortunately something that is new, but he does want to be an agent of change. Now that's not taking things off the table by looking to discipline the police officers that were involved here in violating Tyreek and the way that they treated him and Kaleus Campbell and John New and there may be litigation and a whole other slew of things but for now Tyreek is focused on trying to, rather than necessarily protest as much as try
Starting point is 00:35:49 to work together with the police to get this on the right track moving forward. I was amazed after everything that those officers did to Tyreek, he went out of his way to try and shake their hand before he left the scene to go into the stadium. He literally said to them, I want to be a police officer one day. I respect law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:36:18 This isn't how it should be done. Let's be better. I was with him when he said those things. He showed a lot of poise and I think he really wants to carry that message moving forward. But it was the reason I was sweating like that is I was running frantically around the stadium to get to him. My client John Smith called me and said Drew the cops are beating on Tyreek they're choking him they're kicking him they've got him on the ground in handcuffs I mean you want to talk about anxiety pain frustration it was a nightmare and then all these videos out
Starting point is 00:36:59 there there's zero narrative about what happened to Tyreke. So I was hustling to talk to as many people as I could before the game to get the message out that Tyreke did nothing wrong. Kaleus Campbell did nothing wrong and the police involved here were way out of hand. Drew, does does Tyreek have any regrets about the situation? I have not I can't speak for Tyreek, but from my perspective. I don't think he should I don't believe when you look at the video And I talked to Tyreek about this that his conduct in anyway, merited any type of physical force to put him in handcuffs, to yank him out of the car.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I mean, how about a little respect? Give him a ticket. If you thought it was a moving violation, give him the ticket. But handcuffs and the way that they kicked him and hit him and the choke hold, that was mind boggling. For him to have regrets, he's absolutely the last person that should be regretful. The police officers involved should regret this, and hopefully people are learning from this around the world on how to not be in law enforcement. That's a lesson on what not to do and how to treat people the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Drew, how did we get to the handshakes? What stopped all of this from happening? What's happening in the middle here that we don't have access to that gets to the handshakes? Well, to Tyree's credit, I was with Tyree, Drew Brooks, the Dolphins head of security, Brandon Shor, the Dolphins vice president, Tyree's grandparents, Berman and Virginia Hill were there. We, you know, Tyree just settled down and showed a lot of poise and maturity, it was his call to reach out to those officers to tell them to be better moving forward. Drew, this could have been so much worse. Tyree could have been injured and seriously injured. And unbelievably, he not only played,
Starting point is 00:39:19 but was the star of the game with that 80-yard touchdown catch. To make clear, might litigation still still happen is that still on the table absolutely tarik has uh... his attorneys involved that are looking at this to to see if that is appropriate uh... a lot of people reached out to him indicating that uh... this is
Starting point is 00:39:43 uh... this is something that potentially should merit litigation. That is something that will be determined in the future. But Greg, I want to go back to your point. I literally just hung up the phone with Tariq a few minutes ago and he made the point that you did. It could have been so much worse. He said he could have been shot. He could have been so much worse. He said he could have been shot,
Starting point is 00:40:05 he could have been killed. Thank God he didn't resist. Thank God he didn't fight back. Thank God he handled it with the maturity asking for professionals to help him and he kept his poise. But what if he didn't? This could have been absolutely disastrous when you see the way these officers were treating him. Absolutely feared for his life. What information do you have today that you didn't have when you were talking to the press? What have you since learned? When did you get access to the body cam video that confirmed or refuted any things that you thought before
Starting point is 00:40:46 you saw it? Well, I mean, when I got there, Tyreek was still in handcuffs, but it was after all this violent stuff. Otherwise I probably would have been arrested as well because I would have jumped into the fray here. This is just mind boggling, just like Kaleus and John Yoo did. I got there at the tail end where he was still in handcuffs and went over and the police were trying to push me away.
Starting point is 00:41:14 What do I know now? Looking at all the body cam footage, it's absolutely sickening. And Tyreek himself didn't realize even going through it how terrible it was. He told me he just couldn't believe this is the kind of thing that you see happening to somebody else. And what if he wasn't Tyreek? What if his director of security, Drew Brooks, wasn't there? What if I wasn't there at the scene?
Starting point is 00:41:41 Who knows what this could have turned into? What if his grandparents weren't there? i can't believe that they were there and that is where it's a fixed everything grandparents are there they've don't put on the poll juju at lebatard showed to grandparents fix everything like what what so what what are you walking into drew you've got all the police officers there you're receiving your client is still in handcuffs this is before the handshakes and his grandparents are there.
Starting point is 00:42:06 My brother Jason and my partner said to me, Drew, don't get arrested. He knew I was very emotional and I was extremely upset. But fortunately, by the time I got there, the officers had calmed down to the extent that Tariq was with Drew Brooks. They just had led him out of handcuffs. Tyreek was very poised. But to say that everybody who cared about
Starting point is 00:42:34 Tyreek was enraged and livid, including his grandparents, his pregnant wife who was at this stadium. This was just absolutely, I've been an NFL agent, guys, for 37 years. I've never been involved with something like this. It's mind boggling. A player is just trying to get to his own stadium to do his job. That's all he was trying to do and that's basically what
Starting point is 00:43:05 he said to the police when they ripped him out of the car. He was just trying to explain what he was doing and why he allegedly was in a hurry. He had a job to do and he had a game to play. Mind-boggling. You know Tyreke and I were we're still talking this morning about how shocking this is even 48 hours later. You say no regrets. Was he driving too fast or recklessly? Not that I'm aware of. He says he wasn't. It's kind of hard to do that in traffic. You look at where he got pulled over, but I wasn't an eyewitness
Starting point is 00:43:47 to that. Quite frankly, we were, we were just, you know, relieved that after all of this, he got a speeding, you know, basically a speeding ticket, a reckless driving ticket and a ticket for driving without a seatbelt. We were concerned the police would try to keep them away or take them into custody. We were quite honestly very relieved and we'll get that stuff taken care of. But I obviously, if he was, that certainly did not merit that type of outrageous conduct.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And I know that almost everybody agrees with this sentiment. Tyree did nothing that deserved the beating that he got and the physical treatment much less Kaleus and John Hu on top of that. It's heartbreaking. Howdy folks, it is Mike Ryan and over the course of our 20 years together, there have been a lot of changes. A lot of changes to the show, a lot of changes to my body, a lot of changes to you and your listening habits. But one thing that hasn't changed is the un-debatable great taste of Miller Lite. Another thing that hasn't changed?
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