The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Immaculate Grid

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

WE'VE GOT MARLINS FEVER... David Samson is in-studio, playing sick, in place of Stugotz. The crew discusses the continued hot streak for the Miami Marlins, winning with Luis Arraez and small ball, the... dominance of Eury Perez, and the hottest new Wordle-esque sensation, "The Immaculate Grid." David and Jeremy end up in a "Speaking-With-Players-Off" regarding Jazz Chisholm Jr.'s return to the lineup and what it will do to team chemistry before David finds out Mike Schur will text everyone but him. Then, Damian Lillard and Jimmy Butler's public flirting on social media leads us back to a conversation about the Heat organization's spending and a "HOW-DARE-OFF." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertars show with the Stugat's Podcast. I think it was something like 109 degrees feels like in Miami yesterday. And I'm looking at Billy right now and I can't believe it based on how it is that he's dressed, but it is true. It is. It arrived this weekend. Billy and South Florida have baseball fever.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I can't believe that a weekend series against the pirates gets 25,000 a night and it's all Latin flavor and you get dramatic walkoffs and fun and people in town are paying attention to the Marlins for the first time in how long and we're here to celebrate it with David Samson. I'm very disappointed that people think I'm not happy just so you know i'm very happy they're doing but not as happy as billi is well billi's strange about the marlotte whoa what is that supposed to mean means that you've been you wear your your good terms you wear your marlons emotions on your sleeve and it's very much
Starting point is 00:01:17 uh... results based and you're very sort of you're writing it now like you're you're taking a victory that now i watch them when they're bad. But you're angry about watching them when they're bad. Yeah, that's part of fandom, right? I'm supposed to be happy that they're bad. I think it's just part of sports.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Teams go through bad stretches. Yeah. They do? I find it great that people are going to the ballpark. One day, the upper deck will be open. We never were able to open the upper deck. It's gonna happen I'm doing the immaculate grid right now. I'm sorry if I seem distracted
Starting point is 00:01:49 You guys familiar with the immaculate grid David you know about the immaculate grid. This seems right up your alley I got a text from Mike Ryan that I thought was going to be about the week's content And instead it was hey, are you doing the immacular grid? Do you know the macular grid, Dan? He came in here, Mike Ryan came in here like a crack addict. Okay, he's been crazed for months now, and now he wants to do baseball puzzles that feed an addiction. Before you get me off on a macular grid, just so you know, David Samson is going to get
Starting point is 00:02:19 me sick. He is coughing, he is spitting into a bucket. My wife thinks he got her sick two weeks ago because he's been coughing for two weeks and he's blaming metal-arc media. He's blaming us for forcing him to fly in this condition. And he's going to get the whole show sick as you want to get as Mike wants to get it addicted to a macular grid. I will not get you sick. I promise you. Just don't make that promise. Just don't sit here. I'm gonna turn away whenever I have to.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I am sick, but I'm not gonna let you down. When I got the call, hey, come to Miami. I'm gonna, however disorganized it was, and however the metallur travel department does not exist, and the Elser, oh, you're with Levitard show. Oh, okay. Well, can I get a water? I mean, whatever the deal you have here, whatever is going on, the weather and Miami this time of year, it's not the time to come here. It's not that, David. You got Marlon's fever. Check your temperature. I could go to my first game since 2017 while I'm
Starting point is 00:03:22 here. Well, they're on the road, so you can't. No're gonna be i'm gonna be here all i've got to mention you may not have seen the email although maybe it'll change i thought i was here my not here for a week or two what is the metal arc ok let's backtrack for a second because billy seems confused and i thought he wanted to talk marlins but he wants to talk a maculid grid and i've you're claiming that metal arc media has literally made you sick that you're sick of metal arc media that you try to get down here you're trying to get down here sick and you're sitting in the seat of stugots because you're basically on call all the time because stugots is with the grateful debt that
Starting point is 00:03:56 well that's exactly how this went out there was an email that came it starts with the text the text comes hey this is always a bad sign. What should availability like in the next couple weeks? That's not an interrogative, that's the clarity of meaning you've got to be ready. I don't think people value what a rubber arm can mean to a team. An innings eater? Do you? We were just talking about the Morllins acquiring one of those at the deadline.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Desperate. We need to use quick question gang, someone that played for the Dodgers and the White Sox. Oh man. Any guesses? Well, you haven't explained to people what the Immaculate Grid is. Well, I can't figure out how to enter the names
Starting point is 00:04:37 on this thing, which is a bit concerned. It's a search bar. Yeah, it's a search bar, then. It'll drop down with the name. Okay, so the way that I'm gonna be here, can we not do this live on YouTube? Why? Because I don't find it to be interesting
Starting point is 00:04:49 that you're playing me a macular grid in the middle of a show. This is the new obsession. And you should get in on it with us because I'd rather talk about the fact that we are right now Miami witnessing what is the best season of any Marlins player ever. And we've had amazing seasons.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'd rather talk about the fact that we are 11 games over and that there is an opportunity now post-jeeter. Maybe they were getting it right, post-Samson post-jeeter, and that there's a chance that they can ride this into October. And instead, you want to know who played for the Dodgers and White Socks. Fun fact about the Marlins right now, their winning percentage better than the Heat
Starting point is 00:05:26 or the Panthers winning percentage was in their seasons this past year. So something fun happened in here, huh? It's a fun little team if they can keep it up. And the best part is that they've been doing without Sandy and Jazz so far. So like even if you don't make moves at the deadline, if you get both of them back healthy,
Starting point is 00:05:43 it's like making moves. No, but one of the other things that they have because this is Cincinnati just had, I couldn't believe that over the weekend since an atty's ballpark is full because it's been Joey Vato being excellent. A major. It's a historic awful in Cincinnati after historic. That was the most important baseball club in America for a period of time and they have a hot thing they have Ellie Della Cruz I'm watching that guy play and Tony's talking about why is that guy in baseball that guy would have a hundred catches and football
Starting point is 00:06:16 Terrible to have like a 1700 yard season like 14 touchdowns He'd be the most incredible Y.R.C. Reversy would break in half. Exactly, he'd get destroyed. But the Marlins have in a power arm, Yuri Perez, 6'7, he's giving you what Sandy's supposed to give you 33 innings one run. But I'm worried about him because I feel like one, they're kind of pacing him, right? Because he's young and they don't want to wear him out.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But if they go on a postseason run, are they going to shut him down? He's going to probably start two more times before the all start break, then I'll have a lengthy break, right? But then if they start going into October, how long are they going to be committed to him pitching? Is it going to be one of the Strasper things again?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Let me tell you where I stand with that, because I've fought with agents about that very thing. I could give a flying rats ass about a player's career. If we have a chance to get a ring and a chance to get through October, I want my guy pitching. If Perez is hot, if I'm screwing him a chance to get through October, I want my guy pitching. If Perez is hot, if I'm screwing him up for the next five years, I'm not going to sign him long term and I'm sorry, but he's so hot now. Straussburg got him the ring.
Starting point is 00:07:13 The problem with Straussburg is they signed the extension. They got borrassed. I mean, I'd side with you on that because I'm a fan, so I don't really care what the length of the career is if you can get a ring out of it, right? But I don't know that that's how they're going to operate the situation. They don't, but they should. We like to operate that way, and you can do that when you don't sign guys long-term. You can just absolutely pitch them till their own falls off.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You get the best out of them and then someone else will. You are cold and you have a cold and the whole thing is cold because the way that you said it is the way to run it. If you want your business to succeed right now because it's not often you have 25,000 in the park, you've been waiting 20 years to have anything in the way of momentum with a crowd. You burn someone's arm. The arms are disposable because your business needs meat now.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Well, in the interesting part about that is the Marlin sort of recently went through that with Sixdo Sanchez, who they thought was going to be the ace for the long term. And, you know, they tried to manage his innings in 2020, which was a shortened season and get him through that. And basically, he broke down and hasn't been able to come back since.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And that was with carefully managing an arm. So you wonder if this sort of this front office regime looks at it differently now saying, you know what, this guy's been the best pitcher in baseball since being called up. He's been better than D-T train was in his call up time. He's better than Jose was in his call up to like, he's been as good as anybody that's ever pitched for the Marlins in his first nine starts.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Uh, just FYI, he is been great and players are your toe by your scouts every year. This is the guy. We have the guy, sign him, bring them, play them. There's always another guy. Sandy Elmer Jr. Sixth toe was the guy. You see Andy Elmer Jr. I think he played for both the white sides.
Starting point is 00:08:53 You're right. This is the problem that we have, okay, Samson, because the Marlins team is worth talking about, but Mike Ryan has come in and he's snorting this immaculate grid. I'm, here's what's happening around here. So people understand as we try to hold the business together and David Samson complains that they're not being,
Starting point is 00:09:12 he's not being given bottled water when he arrives with a cold at the L. Sir, he's taking. I wanted more than bottled water. I needed to make, do you know that I was on a chair Dan fixing the air conditioner? Cause I, there was a draft and I'm sick. What? Marlon's fever.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah. There's a side game to the macular grid too because they have popularity percentages. Is it a macular grid too? You wanna have an answer that's 2% or under. That's just like a fun little side game in the macular grid. Mike, you will explain at some point during this segment
Starting point is 00:09:43 or another what the macular grid is, but I need to explain to the audience. The Marlins can wade in the wake of Panthers, Heat, Summer needs something in Miami for sports. They've got something that I don't like to run differential, but they've got a couple of things. But they're built for this, aren't they? You can't throw run differential and usually it's a pretty good metric over an MLB season, but now that they've changed the rules and they've built this team, what's so encouraging about the Marlins is they actually entered this season with a plan for this season. Not like the replenish the farm system, long view plans that we've been going for almost at nauseam down here with Miami. They looked at the the free agent market this
Starting point is 00:10:29 off season. They built their team to be this small ball type of team and you're not gonna some days you're gonna win two zero. Some days you're gonna score one run with 10 hits and it's not gonna look great, but they built a team around the personnel that they had and they're taking advantage of the new rules in the sport and I think that's pretty exciting. You're not often going to outslug the big spenders with their elite power hitters. You know, when you look at teams like the Yankees
Starting point is 00:10:56 or the Dodgers or all these other teams that build these sort of monstrosities of lineups that you look at where, you know, a couple of years ago and even last year the Marlins are trying to sort of outslug those teams with, I've just say, Al Garcia and Jorge Soler and sort of the next level of slugger. So they looked at their roster. They said, we've got a bunch of guys who are trying to fit into sort of different types of molds.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And they acquired Luis Areyes, who hits 400. And they acquired Yule Gouriel, who's hit, you know, who hits close to 300. And a bunch of guys were hitting singles, but sometimes when the leagues go in one way and you're not winning that way, at least you're looking at your roster and saying, all right, here's a way for us to fill it in and try to do something slightly different. Is that the most efficient way to win in Major League Baseball according to the metrics? No, it isn't. But pitching defense and basically putting together innings is the way that they're doing it. This is what's cool
Starting point is 00:11:48 This is indisputably cool this part because if you got a power arm excitement buzz around the ballpark You know how we're gonna do it in 2023 we're gonna hit 400 Like what I like that though like what well, and the weird thing is is that they also lead the league in double plays right? Yeah, one guy by by a wide margin. Well, Yeah, they're one guy. By, by a wide margin. Well, they don't have one guy. They have, well, you just made it to like the team. They don't want you hitting 400. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:10 But they, they have a ton of games with 10 plus hits. Like, like, there's a lot of singles happening as a result of the fact that you're looking at a team that is being led by Luis Arrayes. You're looking at a team that that's the mindset as they go into each game. Pero lo más aterrador es no saber, ¿en qué confiar? Uy de las personas que os piden que mireis, si queréis seguir convido. Birdbox Barcelona, estreno en Netflix el 14 de julio. Te atreves a ver. Don Lebatard! ¡Let's go to a...
Starting point is 00:12:58 80. Bo. ¡Boo! ¡Wau! ¡I think Billy typed an 8 instead of a B. Five's a clear state. Wow, two guts. Number eight. It's Chris Conor on the line. He's seeing. This is the
Starting point is 00:13:15 down limit our show with this to Presented by Draft King Sportsbook, one of America's top rated sports book apps. Draft King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action, including same game parlay's, props, live bedding, and so much more. Use code Dan when you sign up on the Draft King Sportsbook app to check it out. He's coughing a lot in here. He sounds very bad. And Mike Ryan who doesn't want to be here who wants to step back, Mike Ryan is addicted now to this immaculate grid because he needs something after all the
Starting point is 00:13:54 sports stuff. And I don't think Marlins is what he's ready for. Oh, I'm ready for Marlins. This is the first time, as you can imagine, I was in on the Jose stuff. I found that to be an exciting story, but I would only watch when he'd pitch and I'd go on living my life. But now they're playing a brand of baseball that Harkins back to a time that I love. I think the biggest problem with the Marlin since they've moved into this new ballpark,
Starting point is 00:14:19 they decided to change their colors to an awful color scheme that was basically every color. I don't have any connection points. That's why I like these teal Fridays because oh, that's that's my connection point. The old uniforms. Players don't stick around in this franchise long enough for me to develop actual relations with the players because they ship them off. So what can bring me back? What? Situational hitting, timely pitching, small ball, advance a runner, station to station. That's how we won in 03. That's that is my brand of baseball.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's a type of baseball that I know there's the same people love the long ball. Never for me. I don't like the all or nothing sport that baseball became. They're actually not stealing enough bases in my opinion. I'm not going to tell Skip how to do his job, but they're hitting into way too many double plays, they're leading the league in double plays, they have tons of singles, if you just steal some bases. They're like middle of the league right now
Starting point is 00:15:13 and stealing base, just steal some bases. That's gonna help with that. It's almost like, with the way that the pitcher and the pitch clock, it's easier to steal bases now, because you know when they're not gonna go over to you. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Marlins are playing better when jazz is not playing? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I do not think it's a coincidence. But if you ask anyone around the team, they will tell you it's not a coincidence, except they don't want to say it on the record. But can't he help with what ails them right now with a double plays, with the speed on the, on the bags, he can help them. I believe that you will see when jazz comes back that the performance of the team will decrease, not increase. I think that that's a bit of an unfair twist of the fact that they're heading toward a difficult part of their schedule. They are heading toward a tough part of the schedule. You're allowed, you're going to be right, but that's not because jazz comes back. I would like to
Starting point is 00:15:55 point out that their issue with jazz is significant. The players. And I happen to know this Jeremy. I mean, as well, and speaking with players around the team, oh, we have a speaking with players off. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Here we go. Where do we? Where do we have his air every day? And Samson is not anymore. He's been banished to the fringes of the sport. He wasn't banished, but sold the team.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But has sources like if you sell a house, you don't still live in the house Jeremy Jeremy I want to know what's true here jazz chiseled in the clubhouse We've been having reports for a while people have problems with him in the clubhouse So what's real you're there Jeremy Samson's not but he does have sources I will say that a number of players who were on the team last year had real issues with jazz and a number of those players are no longer on the team. Their manager and Skipschumacher, and this is a part that I think has been made clear
Starting point is 00:16:53 but is also part of why they're performing the way that they are. He's the type of guy that is positioning himself as a sort of players manager and that he played the game before, but there's a sort of players manager and that he played the game before but there's a lot of accountability. So I spoke with Jesus Lazardo just a couple of days ago and he talked about the Jesus Lazardo. I'm good for them. But spoke with his Lazardo.
Starting point is 00:17:17 He was a great talking piece, Jeremy. Yeah. Yeah. It's just absolute horse hockey. No, but the reality is is that look, there have been issues with jazz before, but that's not to mean that this team in particular, especially considering, you know, we talked about it. I think David, we talked about this last week, potentially, or two weeks ago, where it
Starting point is 00:17:36 was when jazz comes back, it's the perfect time where this team is playing well. A lot of the outfielders are playing well, and he's put himself in a position where he now has to kind of earn his spot in the lineup. He's not just going to be the lead off hitter sort of granted, hey, you're going to play every day in center field, you're going to play all nine innings. There's going to be things done to make sure that they're winning. Hold on. What is horse hockey?
Starting point is 00:17:56 He's been saying this for a while. It's the original hockey puck. But it was it was it was a cow dung or horse dung on frozen. I like the expression. I know. I know. it doesn't make me old No, I'm not a horse hockey's poop But when you say horse hockey each time it's not I'm not mocking you for being old I'm is there something else you want to say?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Is there another word your true that you're you're editing yourself? I don't choose to say shit on the air. Yeah, well he did I was oh So by the way, okay, there you go. So you just ruined it. Well, I okay, but horse hockey dilutes it in a way that it makes it less strong. Did you know that that was the origins of hockey that they would play with horse poo on frozen ponds. And that's why he uses horse hockey. No, I did not know that. Learn your puck. The original only do five things at once. My. This is a hockey town. Speaking of, I know a player that played for the Yankees Dodgers and Brewers, but I made a mistake. I went eight of nine. I fell short of the
Starting point is 00:18:53 macula. But I use that player for the Yankees Brewers grid. And I left myself open. I worry about you, Mike, in the following way. I worry that you have become someone who requires this sort of Dally infusion of obsession. I don't you're making this something more than it is. It's a game that comes out every night Twenty-two and I love texting with Mike sure like ooh look at this wait you text with Mike sure Oh, you're not the only baseball guy. I know I sent it to Boog Shambi I sent it to Mike sure and the greatest thing is the three baseball guys in my rolladex They never heard of it. You never heard of the immaculate grid sure loves this game I just introduced a new fun thing into his life and that's a very rewarding. Did he answer your texts?
Starting point is 00:19:37 You haven't programmed in your phone Mike sure and I have a great rapport outside of NBA playoffs Is he in your phone is Mike sure? Yes, he I consider Mike sure a mentor of mine a mentor I asked Dan recently if I could text Mike I asked for the number well, that was good judgment by you and run it by Dan and he would not give me the number great judgment by Dan because he said that Mike does not want to hear from you. Oh, well, I mean I find that to be that Mike does not want to hear from you. Oh, well, I mean, I find that to be difficult to believe. Well, you're going to get to talk to Mike today. He's joining us.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And he objected vigorously to something you said last week that I should have called you on, because Samson was making the argument on behalf of Mickey Eris and not going into the tax that he loses money every year and that he's not going to make the $5 billion because he's not going to sell the team. He's going to give it to his son Nick and just keep it in the family. So I should have called Samson on that.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I did not. What would you have said? Mike sure called it the single dumbest thing ever said on our show. And you can talk to him when he comes on with us later, but he doesn't really want to talk to you. I don't think he doesn't want to share his space with you. That's not going to try. You know, Samson and I actually went at it over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:20:45 We spoke on the phone and in a friendly little back and forth, I also went at him for his defensive Mickey Harrison. And I think Mickey's been a great owner here, but I do think that you can loft a pretty valid criticism that he does not like going to the tax. I mean, this is how they operate. Every year we celebrate Andy Ellesberg for getting Mickey Harrison under the tax apron.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It's what they do. They're gonna build a statue for business and commerce of Andy Ellesberg because he is great at that and explaining to people how it is they can get six million more dollars because there are no state tax. And rings. Yeah, well, he rings. Great, great.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But he's also not doing as much as the other owners. So when the Warriors ownership group spends well into the tax and they get a ring for it, you can commend them. Mickey is a great owner, but Mickey could have gotten Bill and Lillard if he had any interest in going into that second threshold of the tax. Now you can make the argument, but then we can't sign them in level exceptions. And there are basketball reasons why not. Okay, but we have like about 10 years now, dating back to the Amnesty of Mike Miller,
Starting point is 00:21:51 where Mickey just does not want to spend into the luxury tax and the way that you say it, the way that you presented it, is Mickey Erison loses money year over year. You swear by that and I believe you on this business. And Erison also said the only year that they have broken even is the 10 is 2010 through 2014 when they had that monster.
Starting point is 00:22:10 It should be noted that they have a deal with the county that if they actually make money they have to split it. So they're not incentivized to actually make money here. Also, when you say he loses money year over year, that's a good thing for a billionaire like Mickey Erison because it's a tax right off. And may I remind you, Mickey Erison works in the cruise line industry. Go ahead and look at their tax reasons. I'm not talking luxury tax now people, I'm talking actual tax.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Mickey Erison, I am not going to cry over because he operates at a loss year to year that he probably revels in. That his accountant makes sure operates out of laws. I think to actually use that as an argument for Mickey Erison is actually a bit misleading. Is this what happens when you only get eight out of nine on a macula grid? Dude, I use Sheffield to early on. Okay, explain, Billy. Explain since you've been caught in the webbing of a macula grid. Go ahead. I wasn't't done yet and I was talking to him and I was talking to Mike sure who gave me another one that fits another one of this way I was the player that played for the blue you have my shirt number also. Oh, yeah, we text almost daily This is absolutely wrong. I mean he texted me. What do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:23:20 I did not I did not get a cruise. I did not give Mike Ryan and Billy Mike Shurz number. I didn't get it from me. I don't know how they did. He texted me. He got the friendship with him. He was a fan of the show and we developed the friendship. We talk about baseball every day. God, we're big,
Starting point is 00:23:34 Ily De La Cruz fans. It's so much fun. And strike zones, we hate umpires together. Let me tell you about um scorecard. I was going to text him not to bother him or talk about money. I was going to thank him not to bother him or talk about money. I was going to thank him or talk about
Starting point is 00:23:48 something that I'd seen him do and that I enjoyed the content. And you were dismissive and protective. It's amazing the way you treat him. David, we all have our own friends. I don't hate you up, Jealouset. You have a relationship with Larry Bindfest like it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:07 We're all on the same team. That doesn't mean your friends have to be my friends. You want cowboy Carl's number? I'll take. Yeah, text cowboy Carl. He's one of my oldest friends. You don't see the difference? That's part of the problem, Metal Arc. What are the other problems?
Starting point is 00:24:19 That you're wanting to be friends with our friends? I don't want to be friends with Mike. I'd like to be able to talk about content creation. I don't find that to be unreasonable at all. It's what we do. Get him on the slack. I agree with him. I agree with you, Dick.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I'm not getting him on the slack. Is he on the show today? He's on the show. You're going to be able to talk to him, although he might cancel now that he's been doing. I'm getting a cell number today. He might, okay. I am not leaving today without any cell number. I hope he doesn't hear this part of the show. I hope he doesn't
Starting point is 00:24:49 hear this part of the show and just comes on with us later. And we can just sit back all of us only knowing the joke that David's going to try to finagle sure his number. And you'll make a very decent man feel awkward because I don't think he'll give it to you. We should take bets. See if Shoms can move the betting odds for us. It's an interesting conversation more on that later. We should take bets. That's good content. We should take bets. David is very charming. I will get his number. Okay, but I'm not the gatekeeper on that. You worry. You didn't give it to me.
Starting point is 00:25:21 You shouldn't. Aren't you the gatekeeper on this I am my guess yeah down lebertard Oh, I think Larry Fitzgerald's on the green right there. Stugats. That's Alfonso Rivera There's a son to be fair to be fair Alfonso Rivera has a great ass. This is the down lebertar Show with Estoucats! Presented by Draft King Sportsbook, one of America's top rated sportsbook apps. Draft King says all kinds of ways to get in on the action, including same game parles, props, live betting and so much more. Use code Dan when you sign up on the Drafking Sportsbook app to check it out. According to a source, the Dame and Joe Kronin relationship isn't great. It's Blazers GM. They are going to have a meeting to discuss the next steps of roster building, likely early this week. All eyes are on Miami from there. Dame indeed has serious interest in joining Miami. That last part is from Sam Amick. And if you paid attention to social media over
Starting point is 00:26:33 the weekend, you'd know very public flirting was happening. That's what was happening. It was hurting Damien Lillard, who if the heat acquire, I will ease up on my public demands for Mickey Erison to pay tax. I'm not talking luxury tax. I'm talking about paying actual taxes because all the cruise lines don't have American flags on the back of the back of the back. They should look into the cruise lines purchasing of our portions of Miami. Yes, there are tax benefits. Spotted cruise line where the American flag.
Starting point is 00:27:03 They do not exist. They do not exist. They do not exist. We can see from our window the benefits to running the empire that is erosant on the bay. They're both the arena that has the fraudulent cryptocurrency with a giant thing on it that nobody can get off. It's still up there on the roof. To the bay that houses all of those cruise ships
Starting point is 00:27:23 that don't pay taxes. This is a very expensive to remove. Just says, this is a not so subtle public challenge to Mickey Erison. For every day that goes by that you do not acquire Damian Lillard, I will amplify my sneaky cause to make you pay money. What if they lose Gabe and Max? Does that bother you? For Damian Lillard.
Starting point is 00:27:42 So you're good. So, if Damian Lillard becomes the best player on this team if they acquire it. And then you don't have to have the conversation of can you win a championship, which you need, but Lur, as your best player, can you win a championship with Bayam out of bio as your second best player? Because after two tries, it seems like we can't. Samson just said something in the middle of that. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Does it still say FTX arena on top of the arena? No, I know it does. The part that he said, it's too expensive to get out of there so they won't remove it. It's going to just say from the sky FTX arena because what Mike Ryan is alleging, they're too cheap to move the stain of FTX arena off of the arena or it's that expensive. So those are related, those are related. The way you're negotiating with the new sponsor, Cassaya, Cassaya, part of the relationship is where do you want your sonage?
Starting point is 00:28:33 And if you want the top, which is what sponsors want, because that's where the planes go back and forth, that's the exciting part. But they want the team to pay for it, the team wants the company to pay for it, and the county won't pay for it at all. And in the alternative, the team would like the team to pay for it. The team wants the company to pay for it and the county Won't pay for it at all and in the alternative the team would like the county to do it I so what's happening now is nobody I'd like to do reporting on this I'm just throwing this out there. This is not reckless speculation
Starting point is 00:28:54 I had actually heard there was so many name changes with the arena that the Kaseyah Center deal doesn't actually kick in Until next year that this is sort of like an added value thing with the temporary signage on the outside that they just wanted to get people and recognize where they weren't going in one it's so hard to get something off that when you put it take it off you put into new one on at the same time that's also true because it's so good so we're talking about like a helicopter or multiple helicopters that have like a crane or the people that are pushing it on all the helicopter ground you know what thank you Tony thank you airplane maybe I bought a saw this weekend I mean if the prices train or the people that are pushing it on the helicopter. Grouse. You know what? Thank you, Tony. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I have played maybe a bit. I bought a saw this weekend. I mean, if the price is right, I can go cut it into bits and just kind of toss it over the side, you know. I have seen on the beach helicopters come over with pianos and furniture and stuff that have to be dropped in from the top, but you're talking about it probably can't be carried off by one helicopter. No, multiple helicopters
Starting point is 00:29:45 And now you've got a now you've got a liability risk. How expensive would all that be to get that off of there? It's a couple hundred grand Come on, they can find that give me 80 and I can get that off. I'm telling you right now It'll be cranes 17 Armando's I they'll carry the dumbest things. I have mini chainsaws up there. We throw one of those things on the side, those garbage shoots.
Starting point is 00:30:09 We just cut it into little bits and pieces and just toss it in that, goes right into a dumpster. Waste management comes over, shout out to Wayne Heizenga, and then we're done. All right, P, we needed the blazers to do what they did on draft night, which was actually use the third pick
Starting point is 00:30:24 and not acquire a superstar with it. Because that signals, hey, this is still a long-term project and not a win-now project to Damien Lillard, who again, I need to remind the audience, went on IG Live to play Will Smith's Miami in the background. When 2023 does that by accident, the statement was from his reps that that was a total coincidence. Come on. I might have been born at night,
Starting point is 00:30:48 but I wasn't born last night. Why did you do that? That was not a good long? Also, I'm not even sure if I was born at night. It was not clever. I don't know. Ricky Williams hasn't told me what time was born yet. Do you not know what time you were born?
Starting point is 00:31:01 Do you know what time you were born? Not an important piece of my life trivia. Do you know what time time you were born? No, you know what time you were born? Not an important piece of my life trivia. Do you know what time your kids were born? Yeah, I know like the general time. The sun was out. Yeah, okay. So Damien, Damien, Damien? Just call him Dam.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Lillard. Damedala. He's not meeting with the GM, just FYI. Oh, I'm thinking, oh, please call him Damedala. Please. Dala with an A. With an A. Bathers me with a dala. B that bothers me when white guy goes hard art
Starting point is 00:31:31 You were saying David I was saying that he's not meeting with the trailblazers to go over roster construction those meetings don't happen We say they happen, but you don't actually sit there and do it Do you think they're sitting with? Dame no, this is to find a way to get him to go to Miami. He's publicly already said that Miami is his top destination. But Jimmy Butler flirted back. Yeah. Jimmy Butler posted a screen cap of Dame Dallas song on his IG. And this is the most, this is the most Damien Lillard has ever played ball with what a superstar
Starting point is 00:32:03 has to do to force his way to a destination. He's never done it. He's been some uninformed people have maybe accused him of being a loser. I would never do that. Because he's my favorite player in the league. He would never do that. I would never do that. I would never.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I would never. But now he's finally doing winter moves, which is passive aggressively trying to force his way out of his current franchise. First time we saw it down here was Gorn Droghitch. I couldn't believe a little adorable koala bear was making a big public mess. That's what you have to do. I mean, imbede has done more in this respect to force his way to Miami than Damian has. And imbede, even though they never get out of the second round, it's been, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:45 there are adult people with their own babies that haven't seen the sixers advance past the second round. But he's done more to be like, I don't think I want to be here. And for publicly, which I mean, butler now finally, Damien Lillard is doing the things necessary. And I truly believe for the first time that Damien Lillard is going to leave Portland. Now the challenge for the heat franchise, is to not have Ischbija drink their milkshake, is to not have Brooklyn drink their milkshake, is to actually do what is necessary to get this done.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's very disappointing that there are fans out there and now you're in the media too, where you are so over focused on this and you're judging a administration based on a player. Yes. I really don't know. I don't even know how to compute that trying to run a team because I can't, you can't run a team with that sort of background.
Starting point is 00:33:41 There have been a lot of instances. That would be one player. David. We have to get them. David, there have been a lot of instances over the last few years where you can make the argument. They've been a player away. They could have had Chris Paul. They've been in finals.
Starting point is 00:33:52 They didn't do enough to get Chris Paul. They haven't won the finals. And this franchise, while Pat Riley said a season unlike any other, and I do think that they honestly genuinely reveled in the massive achievement of being the first legitimate A.C. to make it to an NBA finals because the next did it in a lockout short and season.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That being said, not good enough. That's not the mentality down here. They accomplished something they needed to, which is they got increased value established for Duncan Robinson, and they got into a position where this is a recruiting tool is like, hey, Dame, however you guys are doing it over there, we can do it with Gabe Vincent. Imagine if we had you instead of Max Truce, we can do that with you here. But the thing about that, Mike, is as you salivate over this and other teams will also want Damien Lillard and maybe they'll lose Damien Lillard again. You're six months from being in the NBA game. Like there's always someone and
Starting point is 00:34:50 which is why you don't trade BAM to Portland. And who would you rather have? Like that, Miami's always going to be in that game. They're going to finish second place on, but why are we talking about the heat and not the Marlins? Well, don't you guys get tired though of always being like, ah, if you fail your six months away from being in the next game, like, don't you want to win one of these games? What do you have? You have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Who LeBron please? It is unrelatively disappointing for you all. So Miami-centric. There are people listening to your show around this country who haven't sniffed a ring. Not one. Oh, no, but this is a spoiled entitled fan base. Like, it's, it's problem. It's crazy
Starting point is 00:35:25 But it's out to work by product of the culture that they revel in They they he culture championship culture like they preach this they put it on t-shirts And then they get insulted when we Lead the propaganda when we wear it on our on our chest when we're all about rings or nothing This is what they preach. This is what's celebrated in the halls. This is what they have in championship alley. It's not called second place alley. It's called championship alley.
Starting point is 00:35:50 That's true. How dare you go at me? Yeah. For just being a fan of the team and treating the team the way they want to be treated. Yeah. How dare you, David Stamford? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:35:59 I'm gonna keep doing it because how dare you be so spoiled and entitled that what they did last year was a failure to you. Looks like we got a, how dare all. Classic one. Yeah. How dare it. I mean, you're just gonna powder you going to.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I'm gonna solve it on the grid. Uh, okay. Oh, do the grid. Are you doing the grid? Are you doing the grid? Absolutely. I dare you to get mine. Dude, you're not gonna be immaculate.
Starting point is 00:36:23 There's no way. All right, see, this is what they know though. This is what I'm not even sure was immaculate. Look, what they know. Not even our good friend Mike sure. 5550109. It was his first failure at the immaculate grid. He had been two for two headed into last night.
Starting point is 00:36:39 He made the same mistake I did, which is use up CCs of Matthew and Gary Sheffield in the right squares. Just tell the people, you got a minute, tell the people what this is, why you're addicted to it, why it's so cracky, and why David Samson will be tempted to do this because this is the new word, or this is the new, you know, the new cracky thing for baseball dorks. A macular grid plays into this shows one true passion, which is really 80s, 90s and early 2000s baseball.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And what it is is a grid of nine empty places and they drop hints. You have three hints on the top line, which is usually two logos and an achievement, and three hints on a vertical line, which is usually two logos and an achievement. And sort of like a Venn diagram. You have to find a player that fits the logos.
Starting point is 00:37:23 So today there was like a Brewer's Yankees column that met who's a player that fits the logos. So today there was like a brewers Yankees column that met Who's a player in that intersection? CC Sebastian would be a good one, but also there's a player that played for the Yankees at a 3,000 strikeouts Oh, I can use CC Sebastian there, but I can't use CC Sebastian twice And and there's nothing better. There is nothing better than getting a player with a popularity rank. Nothing better. Nothing better. I can get you to fight this.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You take it to things that are like, no, no, no, no. You have a good money at David. When you take a chance on Chicago White Sox and Los Angeles Dodgers, when you take a flyer on San Diego, Marjoneer, and it clicks and you're still immaculate. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You're a sad. Better. And you're still immaculate? Nothing or a sad face!

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