The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Pregame Speech
Episode Date: August 16, 2023Tony delivers an impassioned pregame speech to get the crew going after they tell stories from last night's group outing at the Marlins game. Then, Messi is off to a remarkable start with Inter Miami,... so Billy questions whether or not the sport of soccer is fixed, and Domonique realizes he has some sports homework to do. Plus, Charlotte Wilder joins us to kick off a conversation about James Harden's mess in Philadelphia. Is there a way out for Daryl Morey and the Sixers? Also, Jimbo Fisher joins us to discuss Mrs. Met. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You're listening to Giraffe King's Network.
This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat's Podcast.
Alright, I'm back.
We had a fun family outing last night.
Well, feelings were a little hurt.
You guys had a metal arc outing at the baseball game.
I'm not a member of metal arc,
but I was invited baseball game
because I'm down here helping out during this tough time.
It's a great time.
Had a lot of fun.
Then I go and look at the Instagram later.
It's a big group picture.
You know who wasn't there for the group picture.
Me.
I just waited until I left to do the group picture.
That was the plan.
You left before the game ended though.
We waited for all nine innings.
Really?
You didn't get there when it started though.
I was there for the first pitch.
Same note too Dominique.
Same note too.
I didn't put up a picture of you guys.
It's what happened to me.
They sent Billy the Marlin, and I think they wanted
like a group picture with Billy the Marlin,
the mascot, and there was like eight people there
at the time, so they're like, okay.
I got a picture with Billy the Marlin, as did Lucy,
and all the other children that were in the suite. Yeah. Lots of kids there, I had a picture with Billy the Marlon as did Lucy and all the other children that were in the sweet
Yeah, lots of kids there. I had a great time. Yeah Lucy was on the floor in the corner
Being a kid with the kids stacking things organizing. She was timing them at some point
She had a little a little baby combine happening over the side
She's let him loosen clock at him and then my son came over there and wanted to tackle people which I'll say all right. Let's go get some ice cream for everybody. I was like let's be gentle
He's like I never I'm never gentle. I know one speed
You slow down. That's how you get hurt
Is it possibly someone's listening yesterday and you're criticizing his dapping abilities?
So he said you know what I'm gonna be extra like rugged today
I mean the death was it about being rugged,
but I told him that I criticized his DAP in ability
because at the game, there were some important daps
that he needed to deliver because they heard about him.
He delivered some great daps and I gotta say,
thank you, Marlins for having us.
Billy to Marlin.
Bad Dapper.
Bad Dapper.
We's got a talk with those hands. Hey, bad, bad, bad, dapper.
We's got to talk with those hands.
Hey, excuse, excuse, excuse, Tony got here this morning,
like a minute or two behind schedule,
try to blame it on the train.
Don't blame it on the train, Tony,
it's on me, that's personal responsibility.
I should have gotten there 10 minutes early.
That's what I'm talking about.
I don't want to train blames,
and don't blame the fin for the dapp.
You got to fin, then you figure out a dapp with the fin.
You are big like Tom Caulflin on arriving
to meetings 15 minutes early, right?
I mean, I talk yesterday about being
kind of sports brainwashed in some ways.
And that's one thing that I have not been able to shake
is I get everywhere super early, it's awkward and weird.
I wish I didn't, but I can't shake the anxiety
that comes with like when I know I have to do something,
I don't know if anyone else is familiar with this,
but if I have to be somewhere in an hour,
the whole hour leading up to that time is stressful.
Like, I'd rather just get there and be 30 minutes early
and just chill, because I can't get anything done
in that time.
I feel you.
I have a question for you.
So you went outside and got ice cream for your children
at one point in time.
And then we saw Tony eating that ice cream.
Was that a different ice cream?
For Tony, because we thought that like you handed to him
and tended to give to your kids
and he just opened it up and started eating it.
Because there's only kids and Tony eating the dip and dots that you went outside and
purchased yourself.
Tony took it from my youngest.
Okay.
Took it right out of our hands.
Three kids, the youngest is very kind and Tony just took it from us.
Do you lose?
And started eating it.
It was unfortunate.
No, what happened was my son who is the most outgoing
of my children, who went out and bought himself,
he has like a Apple Watch with some money on it.
He went out and bought himself in his sister ice cream
and then he brought it back into the place
and I was like, eh, into the suite that you get that.
And I was like, eh, you can't do that.
So then I went back and bought a bunch of ice cream
for everyone else and then Tony took like three or four of them
because that's what Tony do.
Cookie dough.
You said that yesterday when we were talking about
the recycled pre-game speeches,
as Tony is known to do, he believes he can do everything
as well, a better than professionals.
One of the things you told me is that you think
you could deliver a great pre-game speech, Tony.
That's right.
I'm talking about it, be about it. Let's go.
Well, what I'm realizing here is that everybody wants to talk and think shit sweet.
Shit is not sweet here, okay?
We got to work for this every single day.
You know who's out there? Who are people making podcasts?
A lot of them!
I'm not going to mention what their names are, but they're in the top five.
And you know who they're coming for us
You know they want to do topple us and that's what we got to be here every day to work hard That's why I'm standing up right now. That's why I got Billy standing up right now on my feet
You know why I'm at attention. I'm ready because you know what people are trying to come for what we got
Oh, I'm not gonna let that happen. I'm really smiling around here. No smiles. We're here to work today
Thank you, Billy. I'm ready to run. We're here to work today. All right, Mike
I don't want to see you smiling today, dude. I want to see you locked in game face locked in new haircut new you let's go
Stoos here ready to go make up on no smile looking good. Just smoke the heater. Yep. Get ready to smoke the ops
I'm waiting in the front sharing a blanket.
I like it.
Sharing is caring.
Teamwork makes a dream work.
A mean wherever he may be, he's ready.
I've already talked to him.
He's ready.
He's already ready.
He's ready for his other show.
I got to say, the blanket saved you.
I wasn't in, but what you called out to share a blanket.
I was like, this is a family.
Sharing is caring.
We do care, buddy.
Studio B, the people in the back.
They're ready to go.
Born ready again.
Warriors, put them on screen right now.
Warriors, ready to go.
Look at them.
Ready to ride and die for the look of.
Let's go.
Look at us.
Don't die, though.
Look how much that listening.
Robert's not listening.
Where's my kid, see him?
Oh yeah, he's kind of talking.
Yeah, exactly.
Robert, let's go.
Let's go.
The whole team ready to go.
He just smiled. Yeah. There's no smiling. And's go, the whole team ready to go. He just smiled.
Yeah, there's no smiling.
And real T-Six is the smiley show.
Down.
We'll talk about that later though.
Don't just try to hear that.
I like, I like, Fuentes Taylor, ready to ride.
We ready to ride.
I'm certainly not going to argue that we live in anything other than the patriarchy.
However, the toilet seat,
hmm, should be left up.
Like it did.
I did down.
I do, I do.
I do put it down.
Wait, but why are you saying it should be left to hug?
Because I accept responsibility for putting the toilet seat up.
I mean down, because that's what we all of a accept it.
But in actuality, like the reasonable thing to do
is to leave it up.
No, so we can fall in.
They fall in.
Put it down.
I have little.
You have to put it down.
You have to put it down.
I'm saying that it's easier.
Put it down, put it back up, leave it up.
Then it is, put it down and lift it up all the time.
Wait, do you guys now look at the toilet before you sit on
said toilet?
You learn the hard way. And now I'm falling in. Yeah, do you guys not look at the toilet before you sit or say toilet?
You learn the hard way.
And now I'm falling in.
Yeah, and then I'll always look.
The reason why I say that is because again,
I have children, I have one son,
and it's, if you leave the toilet seat up
and my daughter's check, they're good.
If you leave it down and my son doesn't check,
then we got a dirty seat.
So that's all I'm saying is what you're asking
is you're trusting every man to do the right thing
all the time in actuality.
Take some accountability for yourself.
I'm with you, I do.
Next.
The standard of the standard.
Why don't you guys just look.
Should it just make me down?
Should it just make me down?
Okay, okay.
Okay, it just makes me feel like
our families are doing.
Are you walking with your eyes closed?
Like I don't get it.
You're just assuming every seat is down. You're just assuming that every scene is down.
Yeah, it's telling the seat is up and the seat is down.
I haven't left this seat up since 98.
I'm just saying, practically,
the reasonable thing to do is because-
So you're saying we were asking for it?
Okay.
Has an inspirational speech ever caused a schism?
Yeah.
Great job.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute for me.
Iron sharp and zyron.
I lost interest in a patriotic one. Iator for it. Iron sharp and zyron. I lost interest in the Patriot Act.
You know what I found out?
It wasn't about horses.
Oh, Barbie, great picture.
Did you guys like Barbie?
I loved it.
I did.
Haven't seen you yet.
Not surprised.
Patriarchy trying to perpetuate it or I mean.
I just went to see Oppenheimer and then I haven't been back.
Oh, of course.
Oppenheim.
Lou.
Oppie.
Maybe.
Will you ever see it?
What, Barbie?
Yeah.
I saw it on opening night with my daughter.
Good answer.
Good answer.
I still haven't seen Oppenheimer.
I do want to see it, but I haven't seen it yet.
Little long, but really good.
Sound freedom guy.
If you haven't picked one, you're picking Barbie, right?
Haven't seen that one either, Mike.
Less than two hours long.
Sorry, bitch, I should work nine.
Sorry. I for work done.
I do feel like. The question is, is Mike gonna watch Sound of Freedom?
No.
Oh, okay.
No, I see where we are.
I'm like, it's fine.
I heard that was great.
Yeah, no, I've heard it's great too.
That's heard it.
People have told me it's great all the time.
Mike's gonna watch you in a hit streaming services.
He can't be seen watching Sound of Freedom in person.
No, can't.
I mean, I feel like you're better off seeing it in person.
I'm not gonna see it in person.
I got a name for like monumental things.
Monumental thing.
I mean, like super important.
Good filmmakers.
The, uh,
the Cavizel's crazy ass.
Yeah, I can't go see that.
Even if I was interested in it.
I'd rather see Tom Cruise's crazy ass.
Yep.
So that was great.
Great. And we can't say that we can't rank it yet in because we still
can't because they're telling one story. So it's unfair to say this is better than
dead reckoning part one because it's just part one of dead reckoning.
These part one of four right? I hope so. Yes. Spider-Man's been the best movie
this year so far. Oh. The multiverse thing.
Yeah.
I'm a multiverse.
I like the scene in the flash when the baby's on.
That was Spider-Man.
Yeah.
And then Barbie by that.
Yeah.
I feel you on the tide of multiverses, but that's a pretty good story.
You saw it, I assume.
Uh, no, I haven't seen any.
You can't see it.
No, you can't.
Judd, did you haven't seen it?
I'm getting to it.
I mean, it was so much judgment.
It's now available on digital, which means now it's on myplex.
It's not my size. It's not my size. It's so much judgment. It's now available on digital, which means now it's on my plex.
It's on my plex.
I was talking about this yesterday,
how the polarization that we all experience
means that certain things that used to believe in
or used to have skepticism about,
you can no longer have skepticism.
I find myself like a fan of the FBI.
It's real weird to place to be in for a black man.
It's really uncomfortable where you're like, hey, trust everything. Coming from me, it's a real weird place to be in for a black man. It's really uncomfortable where you're like,
hey, trust everything, coming from me, it's real hard.
Like, uh.
Trust the authorities.
Don't forget this out.
I hate that.
I hate that I find myself in the place where I'm like,
hey, you know those people over there that are in charge?
Why don't we believe them?
I will watch down to freedom, I guess,
if there's-
You don't have to say that.
It's growing.
No, it's just, it's become like a, people identify with it.
It's a,
You'll watch it when it gets to you.
You're not going out of your way to watch it.
Well, it's just like, I guess I identified with
Bourbon Himer, so I'm talking out of both sides
of my political meetings.
I watched Blindside, so that's kind of like Sound of Freedom.
Right, same thing.
It's the same formula.
Probably similar audiences.
Yeah, targeting.
Yeah, both.
Yeah, targeting.
It's funny now that Michael Orr and I guess we'll get to this
again later in the show.
I wasn't happy with how we discussed it yesterday.
I gotta be honest.
I think we won a lot of segments yesterday.
Michael Orr's segment was L. We gotta come back on that.
But I did rewatch some clips from the movie
and I've never seen the movie before
because I was on the team with Michael
and he like openly, I was like, yeah, it's movie sucks
and I was like, all right, cool.
That should have been our first hint, right?
I was like, I don't want to see it.
He didn't really love the book.
He didn't really appreciate the movie
and I was like, yeah, I'm good on that.
But I watched some clips last night and
We as a country really love that movie and now everyone's turning on it like y'all
assholes was eating it up back there like yeah
Save that big black man white ladies save him maybe feel good
Green book done libbert. Why are you guys
blurting out safety names?
It's the best game ever.
Little while ago we were talking
about an art Pollard and now I
think we're just playing a game
in the studio where we're just
naming safeties. Yeah. Kind of
like the 90s baseball player
game. Like a couple minutes ago I
just blurted out Brock Marion.
Great work. And it made a few people happy.
Yep.
Still got Bob Sanders.
Yeah.
No, he was early in the list.
Classic.
Very cathartic.
Yeah.
Adam Archaleda.
Not a good safety.
No, but a great name in a name.
He had a run name alone.
Sounds like he should be better.
Adam was a good safety for a few years.
Did someone say Brock Marion?
Yeah. So that's where this was.
That was a gambit.
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I'm in, baby.
I was at the baseball game.
I enjoyed the baseball game.
I don't mean to disparage the baseball game at all.
I enjoyed the Marlins.
Yeah, thank you.
It was fun.
They lost, but it was a close game. It was enjoyable. However, I did a lot of peeking over my man, Mike Ryan's shoulder, a lot of peeking
over shoulder because you know what he had set up. He had a little Apple TV device set up there
watching messy. Those pink jerseys, Bousquet, Alba, there you go. Analysis complete. That's all I got
for you, baby. Sockers, Faker, right? Come on, Billy.
I'm just asking, like this guy comes in. He scores nine goals in like six games.
He's leading the team in goals.
They have more wins of when he was on the team and like 22 games.
Like he's making it look too easy.
That goal that he scored, he hit from like the other side of the field practically.
It looked like it was just like a bowling ball, just kind of rolling a bounce.
I got the end. It didn't seem that hard to stop.
I am enjoying watching Mike's face.
No, it's fun.
Like I'm not saying it's not fun.
It's fun.
It's good for, you know, the city, the team, the league, whatever.
For a long time.
That's a whole nother.
So should we hold on before you get to that?
Should we, should we start calling it sports entertainment now?
Like, I think that's fair.
Put it in the wrestling category.
Stopper didn't like his real sports.
Let's go sports entertain.
There's nothing wrong with that label.
And I don't I mean, WWE's worth billions of dollars.
What's the MLS would love that, right?
I just I don't understand one, the made up cup, right?
Where they're actively like postponing actual games in the league for this cup
that didn't exist before real Real games. Real games.
Meaningful games.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know what's a meaningful game.
It's forced entertainment.
It's just really the meaning is just to entertain us, right?
So they're moving actual league games and every game he scores.
How's it possible?
And they tell us he's 36.
He can't play a certain turf.
And this and that.
It's really just fine.
I really just find. I really appreciate how they gave us that short, like, injury storyline.
They tested the injury storyline and then they're like, no, we can't do that.
They put them back out there, put them back out there, scrap it.
Yeah.
Well, that's another thing.
Why is a guy playing 90 minutes into a game when they're up four to one?
If he has this injury, it seems like not a great idea to put them out there.
The guy's your entire team. He's your entire league. He's Apple. He's MLS.
He's everything for this league. Why do you have him out there in a game that other teams not gonna come back and it seems risky?
Mike. No, but all excellent points.
All of it.
To be rigged.
I would say rigged. I said it seems fake. Well, it's not rigged. Like the guy is clearly playing in a league
that he doesn't belong in, right?
The league's not good enough.
I appreciate, look, I guess Apple's marketing strategy
is working and it's a great move for the league
for you guys to realize that Messi is good at soccer.
He doesn't say everywhere.
I have MLS plus package, whatever it is.
Yeah, I got it for free with T-Mobile.
Yeah, I still have it.
He's only got nine goals. I mean how many games six
Mike say you're saying that he does this all the time nine goals six games. I'm saying that's like a little above his normal output
I mean keep in mind he was sharing the ball with guys like him bop Bay and and name are in his last place other people were eating too
but it's also
It's also not exactly accurate when
people say they just plugged Messy into the worst team in the league and they got better.
Yeah, he got plugged into the team, but so did Buskets, so did Alba, Alba scored yesterday,
Buskets has been dynamite.
New manager for brand new manager, so a lot has changed and we're game removed from them
having to go to pens
and conceding four goals. So he's not running through this league like a hot knife through
butter. Yeah. Individually, he's been seller, but he's not doing anything unmessy like this
isn't like, oh, this guy was watched at the tail end of his career. The guy scored a brace
in the World Cup Final against France six months ago. I think you can score a goal against Philadelphia Union.
All right, the ultimate test for whether this is real or fake
is can we predict the storylines?
So like I think we need to see if we can predict
what goes on next.
I think it has to be something physical.
Like I think they lean into the messy injury.
At some point he's got to miss a couple games and we have to see how the team does without him. Like that into the messy injury. At some point, he's got to miss a couple games
and we have to see how the team does without them.
Like that's the next move they'll lose.
Yeah, and then we build it up for the big comeback
for the first knockout game.
So I have a question, well, the next game's a championship,
right, in this tournament.
Yeah, that to the regular season.
First ever, we don't, we don't.
Well, this is all like, well, so there's a storyline.
So regular season, how does a storyline go in this? Does he win the championship in his first
time? Or does he miss some of it? And then they lose? And then there's like,
vengeance for next year? No, they have that storyline. This is the first year of the cup.
Right. This is the first year of this cup. However, he doesn't have to wait that long for his
second opportunity at Hardware
because the oldest trophy in professional US soccer is no no no the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup.
It's a that's tennis. They're football. I mean real football. They're inner Miami made it to the
semifinals without Messi. They're playing FC Cincinnati, but that fixture is next week.
And so if they make it to the final,
there's actually talk that if they host the final,
that final gets moved to Hard Rock Stadium down here.
So he actually has a little home cooking.
Yeah, and through the victory last night,
through the victory last night against Philadelphia,
they punched their ticket to next year's
ConkaCaf Champions League.
Because the top three in the league's cup automatically qualify. Philadelphia, they punch their ticket to next year's ConkaCaf Champions League because
the top three in the league's cup automatically qualify.
So like all major soccer leagues across the planet, there are about three to four competitions
going on simultaneously throughout the season and they're all regular season.
I guess the hard rock would be a neutral field, right?
Yeah, that's not a home field, no home cooking there.
Double road game, yeah.
Different county. I love when you get to punch a ticket nothing like
punches for it's yeah it was it was my hope that it was my hope that if this guy
came into town and performed at a high level we'd stop talking about it the
way that we had doing it we're talking soccer right now would we be talking
about the right MLS no it's it's cup. It's, I think it's cup.
What this move has done.
Midseason tournament.
What I love most about this move,
outside of being a season ticket holder,
a day one supporter of the franchise,
being super happy for my hometown,
not close to Book of Retone,
but the general region of it.
And for the United States to have messy and primetime
and realize, hey, this is pretty cool and pretty good.
What I find coolest about it
is someone that's watched messy basically
my entire soccer-loving life is he's having the most fun
I've ever seen him have.
And it could be a combination of things.
It could be post-winning the World Cup
and that pressure's off his shoulders,
but we did have a sample of him in Paris after he won the World Cup and he was visibly
not the same guy. He's having fun, he's cheesing it up. It's done the impossible. The
move to Miami has made Lionel Messi charismatic.
I saw him try to stand up for one of his teammates last night and I was impressed. I appreciate
it, but I also was thinking, hey guys, what are the rest of you doing?
Like, this is a, hey, this guy scores the goals,
you guys do the dirty work.
But he's also team captain.
He's also team captain.
Yeah, it's been coming upon the team captain
to mix it up like that.
Yeah, but to Billy's point, you don't want to make a game.
He's so important to the team and the league
that when you're up for one, you should probably take him out and to dominate each point. You
don't want that guy being your force.
I, I, it's actually really, there's a reason. There's a reason. There's a reason. There's
a reason Wade had Haslam, Jordan had, you know, Oplea, Rodman. He's got, he's got, he's
got other people there to be enforcers and some people have tried testing him. And I
imagine if, if they were playing Monterey, Monterey probably doesn't have the message from the league,
which is hey, protect the money maker, keep him fit.
I'm not saying let him run rough shot.
However, it was a little curious.
And this thing always surrounds messy,
be it all the, it's usually
sending from Ronaldo fans, but the conspiracy theorist
said it was all predetermined.
And they just wanted messy to win the cup because the host country said as much.
I have never seen Philadelphia play that poorly.
And it's not just because they run into Lionel Messi.
They gave Messi so much face early on.
That is the best defensive team in MLS.
As a reigning Eastern Conference champion, and they got blitz from the start
You saw in the second half them kind of settle in and you saw what the game plan was but they kind of got starry
I'd they kind of got sorry I'd early on I actually thought Philadelphia had a decent chance of winning that game
Should be noted that they were missing Karanso who's a former inner Miami player who's a DP for them and a tremendous player
He had a hamstring pool. I think got really good players in Philadelphia.
And if that was your first time watching Philadelphia Union,
you think that the league is a joke.
Part of the reason why we end up in a bad place
talking about this sport in a way that annoys Mike Ryan
and probably annoys other MLS fans is because,
I don't know shit.
So you said a bunch of names and a bunch of things,
and I would like to respond with expert analysis back in your direction. I don't know shit. So you said a bunch of names and a bunch of things and I would like to respond with expert
analysis back in your direction.
I don't got that.
So you know what?
It's fake.
Yeah, but I don't know shit about a bunch of the sports that we're talking about.
Like I try my best.
You know how many college basketball teams there are?
You know how many I closely follow?
Like I know the ACC and when other people speak with authority, I tend to listen.
Like when Billy has opinions, when Chris has opinions on baseball,
I'm not gonna pretend like I have conviction on these things.
I'll fake it and set other people up.
I'm trying, as I grow older, I'm trying to take the piss less.
You know, I don't, people like these things,
people are informed on these things,
and I understand that we have to speak largely
for a group of audience that doesn't care. But look, Chelsea Liverpool is most streamed soccer match in the history
of soccer in this country. They got almost million streams on peacock as media is evolving,
as MLS itself is evolving, as we gear up towards this nation hosting a World Cup in 2026.
You have a right to be bullish, and I think as a nation,
we should probably stop being so sarcastic
when we talk about it.
I think that I've decided
that I'm gonna give myself some sports homework.
One, get smarter and soccer.
Two, watch your baseball game.
It's one.
Looking for you, there's a World Cup final.
In less than a week, Sunday morning,
gotta get up a little early.
I think the game starts at five, maybe six.
Australia lost this morning, very sad for the material.
They did?
They did, three to one.
It was such a heartbreaker.
Sam Kerr had one of the most gorgeous shots
I've ever seen to tie up the match.
Plus two sixi on that.
Came back scored two more goals.
Sam Kerr missed a couple opportunities.
And now England
will be playing Spain which is a really interesting match up because of everything going on with
Spain and their federation so you should all tune in if you want to you know watch some high
level soccer it's going to be a great match what's going on with Spain their federation well
well I know they like hate the manager everyone hates hates the coach, Jorge Vieldeb, because he apparently is not showing a lot of professionalism.
There's a lot of issues that the players have with the way
that they've been treated.
So a number of players wrote a letter
to the Spanish Federation ahead of the World Cup
and said to not call them up to the World Cup team.
They didn't want to play on the national team.
So a couple players did end up playing on the team,
but a lot stayed at home. So some of Spain's best, most talented players are not even on the roster. And they a couple players did end up playing on the team, but a lot stayed at home.
So some of Spain's best, most talented players
are not even on the roster.
And they still made it to the final, which is crazy.
And they are still not happy with the way
that things have been handled by the Federation.
So it's a very interesting kind of tense vibe
within that team right now.
And there's been a lot of clips of star players
not wanting to shake hands,
not wanting to celebrate with the coach.
Now that Alsteria is out,
we got a room for Spain to win,
just so we can see how awkward it gets
in the celebration.
Like the biggest achievement in all the professional sports,
winning the World Cup,
but we hate the guy who let us there.
That sounds fun.
You know, the NL has a DH now?
More sports homework. I need to watch
show Heyo Tani. Like, I gotta do it.
I promise I'm gonna do it.
Don't let me talk!
You know what a razor is, Dan?
I do not know. I don't know what a
motor roller razor is.
You don't?
No. I bet you you had one.
I did not have one.
Really? Let's walk through your phone history.
What kind of phone?
I never had a motor roller razor.
I did not have a motor roller razor. What was kind of phone? I never had a motor racer. I did not have a motor racer.
What was your first phone?
Ooh.
Not a motor racer.
A telegraph machine after that.
The motor racer, Dan, was the one that was like really, really thin
that it flipped over, but it was like as thin as like a razor blade.
That's why they called it the razor.
What is a telegraph machine?
I don't know. They had one in down nabby.
Still gots.
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All right, so first of all, I feel like we need to name the portion of the show,
like at the end of every segment, there's like a spot where you can get one good line in or
one good word, and then we need to name for that, because I feel like maximizing that is important.
You know like they say movies, people only love the movies that end well.
Like the whole movie can be great,
it has a bad ending, it's a terrible movie.
I feel the same way about a segment.
We can get it with a perfect joke in that,
I don't know, that alley at the end of the show.
You wanna stick the landing.
Yeah, right, yeah.
So we're calling it the landing, Tony.
You tried, I liked it, I think you did.
But you know what, I came in over the top
and messed up your landing.
You're good, I thought that you needed a second, so I was gonna give you know what? I came in over the top and messed up your landing.
You're good.
I thought that you needed a second,
so I was gonna give you that second.
I gave it and then you said something in the middle,
so I got in between.
That's on me, that's on me.
I'll take that one.
That's my responsibility.
We'll work on it.
We'll get better.
I got it in my spot.
Personal, you know.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
We have Charlotte here via Zoom.
What up?
Hi guys, how are you?
Good, also.
Amine has joined us in
studio. Three women on at the same time. What woman's topic are we gonna talk about now?
Because we have three women on at the same time. We did. We had three black people yesterday.
We did it. Yeah. We had three. We had three. And this place is still open. My man Tony gave us pre-game speech and so I was wondering you've been around
sports your whole life. Have you ever given a pre-game speech?
One time and it was terrible and I wish I remember the particulars. It was something about
like they're coming for our way of life or something like that. Like it was who are you
speaking to?
Who are you speaking to? Who are you speaking to? I'm speaking to like the young kids on our team.
This is like a preseason.
I might have even been like a scrimmage now,
I think about it, but it was just,
it was something online that coming for your way of life.
Like, you know what?
You want to make a rain in a club?
No.
You're coming for your way of life.
You know what the key is to a good pregame speech
is what I realized afterward is,
and Tony, you made this mistake.
You tried to launch right into like,
you gotta tell them a story, man.
You gotta set it up.
You gotta set it up with a story.
And there are certain things you have to say twice.
Like I listened to Michael Irving's pre-game speech
that he did here that he recreated.
Right, I guess he did it before an FSU game
or a half time of an FSU game.
He says everything twice for the good.
For the good.
Nice.
But very pretty early.
But that's when you reach the crescendo, right?
Like before you get there, you gotta be like,
I was on my way here and I stopped off in a corner,
so I thought it's old man, he was bent over, right?
There's gotta be a whole story behind it
about how the old man, even though he couldn't stand up straight,
he was still sweeping in front of his store
because he had pride.
Pride.
Pride.
That's what I know every single one of you in this room has.
Pride.
And even when you're back certain,
even when you build up,
and then you start doing the double talk.
Yes.
And the raising of the thing.
Charlotte, what is a James? What is
a James Harden pregame speech look like? I feel like he's going to use their coming
for our way of life. He's very big in his way of life. Well, I first have a question
for me and I mean, are you talking about the young kids on the sons or is this like a
youth basketball situation? This is, yeah, this was, this is in my professional life. No, let's go youth kids. They're coming for our Capri Sons.
We won't stand for it.
Yeah.
I love Capri Sons.
I mean, who doesn't?
Who doesn't?
Who among us?
Some people don't like them.
No, who are they?
I don't know.
We should call them out right now.
I don't like Capri Sons.
All right, get her up on the wall.
Like, that's right.
Wall.
Coming up for our way of life.
Pick me out of the studio, but now we're gonna shoot me.
Yeah, well, look, I didn't say that.
Whoa, nobody said that.
Nobody said anything about an SU.
Anyway, well, I was trying to throw it to Charlotte
so we could go with this James Harden topic
and you, he then took it back, so it's Charlotte.
It was Charlotte's fault.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I derailed it on purpose so that I could think about what James Harden's pre-games. and took it back. So it's Charlotte. It was Charlotte's fault. It's just. Yeah. She threw it back.
I derailed it on purpose so that I can think about
what James Harden's pregame.
So James Harden, he would say,
Darryl Mori is a liar five times
and then stopped talking.
Well, I mean, he did do that.
Like, like, Darryl...
But like, that's what you do in the locker room.
Yeah.
Hey guys, let's get wild though.
Darryl Mori is a liar.
And I don't want to be a part of this anymore.
Let me say it again.
I mean, we have had lots of pre-game speeches
that is us versus them.
Like, pre-game speeches always us versus them.
You have to decide who the them is in the context.
It's the world.
Yeah, but I mean, I've had been on teams
where the pre-game speech was us against upstairs.
Yes.
And during training camp, in particular, it's like, look, it's us first them.
They're looking for a reason to trade.
They're looking for a reason to cut you.
They don't care much.
When their trade talks out there about players,
that is always the center of the pregame speech.
And the coach, at that point,
the coach who had been hanging out with the GM
all, all, all offseason is now like,
I don't know about that.
I'm with you guys.
I'm now here in the trenches with you guys.
That's always my favorite when we're we're definitely saying the people upstairs or
they're they're evil. They want they want to break everything up. They don't believe in you.
Da-da-da. We go and we know we're not going to give them an excuse. We'll go out there.
We go win and then people are going to be like, why'd y'all break it up?
I feel like the heart and saga as much as heart and the celebrity, he's not the player that he once was.
Whenever I think of the 76ers and I think about James Hardin or Darryl Mori, I think about
Joelle and Bied.
So Charlotte, would it mind to take away from any of this and how Joelle and Bied feels
about it is and how any of this is impacting his future with the team?
Well, I mean, it's obviously a total mess.
Like James Hardin is, there's something going on.
I want to know what Darryl Mory lied about because if it's that he said,
you know, if you take a pay cut this year, then we'll, you know,
we'll give you a little something on when it's time.
And that's not allowed.
So then he'd be in a ton of trouble.
But if he said something like, you know, I promised I'll trade you if you opt
into your contract.
And I think it all depends on what the actual lie was if there was a lie.
And Joe LNB, meanwhile, is just standing there very tall being like, uh, can we, are you
going to press me?
Like, what's going on?
Yeah, I'm actually in between them.
He trying to keep up, you know, like at a UFC fight the way in.
I got like a heart.
Dana White.
That's what Charlotte is right now.
What's in the lie you mean for?
Did they ask Cardin to opt in?
I don't know, Tragey.
I don't know what the lies, I don't know if anyone knows what the lies.
Because there's a couple of things, right?
It could be, hey, take this smaller deal and then we'll take care of you next summer.
It could be, hey, if you opt in, it'll make it easier for us to trade you.
There's a couple of things there that could have been the things.
But to me, it's irrelevant because what you're talking about, Dom, is the big thing,
which is regardless of whether he liked him there, he liked him there, he didn't lie to him.
He kind of insinuated whatever it is the reality is
This is Mori's guy. Yeah, it's his guy right and his guy has turned on him
And this is the guy that he went out and traded picks and obviously Ben Sims didn't want to be there or whatever
So this is a guy he's paid 225 million dollars to but specifically in Philadelphia's two guys right this is your mess
Yeah, there's one guy on this roster who preceded Darryl Mori one but specifically in Philadelphia's two guys. Right. This is your mess. Yeah.
There's one guy on this roster who preceded Darryl Mori.
One, Jo Ellen Beade, the one, the good one, right?
Everyone else here is here because of Darryl Mori.
So regardless of whether hardness is mistaken
or hardness is one on a point,
if you're Jo Ellen Beade, you're gonna be like,
hey dude, you made this mess.
You, I thought you were gonna fix it.
There's a point that happened and I don't know what we're pointing at, but we, you made this mess. I thought you were gonna fix it. There's a point that happened
and I don't know what we're pointing at,
but we're all looking at each other.
Well I think Dominique was pointing at Charlotte.
Like, right.
I, I, I, I, I.
Oh see, dumb, I, I can't see that.
When you point, I see a sideways finger
come into the camera.
I don't see it pointing at my screen.
Well when there's an awkward pause like that,
you could say Charlotte.
I could.
Yeah, you could.
I'm having a rough start. I'm having a rough start. I'm having a rough start. No, you I could. Yeah, you could. I'm having a rough start.
I'm having a rough start.
I'm having a rough start.
No, you're okay.
We're getting better, man.
I'm, I don't, hey.
The one thing I don't do is patronization.
I'm a rough start.
Dominion is what I sell.
Rough start.
Let's focus.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
On my way here, I walk past this corner store.
There's an old man like me.
His back was hurting, right?
But like he kept...
I mean, hold on, hold on.
You think shit is sweet, huh?
That's what you think.
That's what I'm talking about.
You think that Dan's gonna let you do this again with that hate talk?
Hell no.
Yeah, Dan will never let me come out here.
Work for free.
Again, after that, thanks Dan.
He kept dropping the broom, right?
I don't want to hear the rest of this, please.
But even though he was dottering and all, he kept reaching down and dropping the broom right? I want to get the rest of this, please. But like even though he was dottering and though he kept reaching down and getting the
broom because you know what?
We're not defined by our mistakes, Dominique.
And now I'm turning it to actual somehow.
Okay.
We're not defined by our mistakes.
We're defined by how we react to those mistakes.
Speaking of mistakes, I think just about everything they've done in Philadelphia
has been a mistake. And the sad part about this whole situation to me, Charlotte, is that
I don't see a way out. Like, what is the way out? I don't think there is one. I feel like my favorite,
my favorite thing that people say in pre-game speeches is we're going to burn the boats. Like,
I always thought that was hilarious because like, what boat did you row here like the whole analogy is just like insane to me
and I feel like Darryl Moring, James Hardin are burning the boats and for the
rest of the team without the rest of the team's consent and then the team is
stranded on also in the boat situation are we on an island did we take a
bridge and burn the bridge so we can't the New World. What's going on?
We came to the New World and then we burned the boats and then we brought smallpox with
this.
And then we ruined absolutely everything.
Your speeches are horrible.
I feel like the hardened and more are both too stubborn for there to be any clean way
out of this.
I feel like the Sixers are going to implode before anybody come. It's like a battle of the egos at this point.
They're both like, well, it's a game of chicken. I don't know. Charlotte gets five fleck bucks
for mentioning rowing the boats. Nice. Good job, Charlotte. That made you can smoke weed.
All you want this week like I do regardless I
Think that was how you got out of drug test
Wow, okay now you sold me again on bj flag hold on now hold on. Yeah, I believe it by I mean
If I speak it out of turn I think I read the article and suggested that
Mr. Flex the flex bucks for acting right? I mean keep up
Yeah, and for like going to do community service and stuff
and the people who high on flex bucks could use them
to buy themselves out of drug tests and other things.
Really smart man, hold on man.
Like you hold the carrot here and you say just do this stuff
here that no one likes to do and like you they have go
and they're doing it and somebody even end up liking doing it.
But they're racking up P.A. Flagbox,
but can you then sell Flagbox to other teammates?
I think so, I think.
One Flagbox is 0.003, Dogecoin.
Oh.
It's gotta be a Black market to Flagbox or a white market.
I don't know, I don't know.
I'm just a market.
I mean, the original market,
we're talking about once you sell it amongst your your teammates
The 76ers we're done talking about 76ers. They're gonna be sad. They need to trade
Joe LnB to move on and start all the way over to Miami. They need to turn to Miami right only Miami
Yeah, this is for nothing. This is what you do you call day. He's a hey, I know you wanted to play with bam
But what if I told you I could turn bam into Joe LnB
Jimmy Butler David Lillard and Joel and Vee? Come on, man. Who says no? Three team deal and no one's upset because an ulcerer heads somewhere. My
Amy doesn't just do the Tyler Ero thing. There's an eye and fix everything.
There's also the possibility like we're assuming that James Hartton means to
things that he says. I don't know that James heart and cares
I think he just wants out of town. I think he probably loves Darmore
He just wants to call him an asshole so he can get traded watch oddball every day on YouTube every day
DKN don't miss it. How the landing?
Stuck it
Don't let it hard. Chris Cody does an impression just be careful dangerous game
There's a dangerous game. I don't want to play this game. No, you say man. I could do such's a dangerous game. I don't want to play this game
No, you say man. I could do such a great. Oh, I don't want to play this game. He's like man
I
This is who we're gonna trust me. Let's let a mean do it. I think I think you could do it Chris because you did a great
Charles Barkley your one for one there did no one just hear the segment we just did with the mean we cannot be taking judgment is not the House from the local drunk on whether or not you
Should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his words like you don't see the bad
Moza moody moody moody moody moody
We got it like We cannot do this.
It's too close to the line.
This is where the line is.
Something legitimately funny can't be funny
because we're scared our ginger is
going to do something racist by accident.
Carry the hell on, Dan.
Rachel.
Dan, the line is where we feel alive, though.
This is the Dalabatar show with the Stugat.
This is the Dalabata show with this two cats
So one of the things with the hard and thing and I'm curious to know your thoughts I mean is it seems like the mainstream media that has these partnerships with the NBA is finally circling back
to James Hardin's deal last year and
Like you guys mentioned you don't know exactly why he's calling him
a liar. He could just be trying to start James Harden himself might not be knowing. But
I do believe him a little bit more because he said, allow me to repeat that. So, and that's
how you know, let me say it again. That's how you know he feels strongly about that.
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all that ass as my ass.
It's, we have a lot of weird things that are cannon on this show,
but anytime we talk Mrs. Metc, I think Jim Bofischer.
That's a weird timing in.
I'm not even really sure how that all happened.
I can't wait for my trip down to Miami
to play the hurricane games this year.
And hopefully Mrs. Mets is going to be watching too.
Why was she being Miami?
Watching on TV?
And I'll give her a little smooch in the camera.
A smooch.
You know what I'm finding?
What I was trying to get at was this was obvious while it was happening that this was, I guess where you could push back
is, the perception is, here's the theory, James Harden took less, so they could sign guys
like PJ Tucker, someone else I forget.
Daniel Hauss.
Yeah, Daniel Hauss and so.
Yeah, to improve the team, there are chances of winning a title last year, and then they'd
sweeten the pot for James when he came back up. And then that's where we can all perceive the deal when sideways.
And the only notion against that is what was James Hardin's market value last year?
Would he have found someone to give him the full max or at least what he was, what he opted
out of? What do you believe?
So there's a lot of things, right?
So there's, there's, there's that.
Then there's the league investigated them and docked them a couple of things, right? So there's that, then there's the league investigated them
and docked them a couple of second-round pay.
Right, because the tampering only happened
with PJ Tucker and Daniel House.
It didn't happen at all with the contract
that made it possible.
There's so many parallels to the Joe Smith fine.
Well, the Joe Smith one always go down in history
because they had it in writing. And exactly because they had it in writing.
And the reason they had it in writing was because they weren't sure, the Joe and his agent
weren't sure that Glentaylor would be alive long enough to honor the deal.
This happened in 2000.
I want to say 2001.
It is now 2023.
Glentaylor still with us.
And if you've seen Glentaylor, if you've seen a picture of Google it right now,
if you haven't, he looked like that in 2000.
Secret aging.
Well, the secret aging is looking like you're on Death's Door
for 20 years.
Yes.
So Abe Vagoda just had a career.
So it's, there's that part of it.
Let me ask you this.
How do they, how do they ping them for tampering
on the contracts that James Harden made possible?
They didn't, they ping them on illegal contact
with PJ Tucker and Daniel House before.
Right, but illegal contact wouldn't be made
if they didn't have this cap room
that James Harden made possible.
So how are they not looking deeper?
This was, this was obvious to everyone.
Rubin divest himself and then you,
you'd figure that James Harden makes it up
with fanatics endorsements.
We said this as it was happening.
And now that it's gotten ugly,
everyone's circling back to say,
hey, that was curious,
and the league looked into this,
and the sixers who have historically
always been ringing the bell for other teams.
They did this with Kyle Lowry.
Yes. So that's where i'm coming from it
yet all that that that that that that that that's no that's my son that's more
clarity on chip's on the table like they they were upset
because he got cala rean they didn't have a shot
and then they do the same thing with pj tucker
and they circumvent the salary cap to do so
and get hurt by it well i mean and then they have people carrying water on mainstream media while the superstars
do in the same exact thing that Damien Lillard's trying to do.
So I'm curious, when does the league do something about this?
What are they supposed to do?
Do more.
Do what they did with Damien Lillard.
What did they do?
What they did with Damien Lillard?
But they didn't do anything with,
they put out a memo.
Okay, but they haven't done that with this.
But the memo said this doesn't just apply to Damien Lillard.
It applies to every situation.
And immediately after that, what does James Harden do?
Okay, but that's not message not received.
Yeah, but he didn't say I want to play only for the clippers.
He has been, but he didn't say that.
His reps did.
He didn't say that out loud.
Damien Lillard didn't say it out loud.
He played Will Smith in the background.
His rep, but it means,
his rep said it, which you know it, you know what that means. But it comes from James Harden. Where did his rep say it out loud. He played Will Smith in the background. His rep said it, which you know what you know what that means.
But it comes from James Huller. Where did his rep say it?
Well, Mike is saying that the rep said it.
Where it was it was the old world report that he wants the clippers.
Again, there's a difference between according the sources,
they're pushing for the clippers and coming out on the record
and saying, my client will only play for the Miami. When did he when did they come out on the record and saying, my client will only play for the Miami.
When did they come out on the record and say that?
God, man, it was a...
Because it feels pretty similar.
I'm not gonna do the defensive thing.
Like, I just did that because I wanted to undercut
what people are gonna come at me with.
What I'm saying is, this was obvious as it was happening.
I mean, it was obvious what was gonna happen
as soon as Ruben divested himself from owner. That they going to circumvent the salary cap and then when James Harden
What I want answered to me really is what was the market for James Harden last year?
Was he going to get the same kind of offer because Houston was out there as a team that would have given James Harden a supermax
No, yeah, so here's the thing he opted out of 40 plus mill
He may not have gotten five years max
or four years max somewhere else or whatever.
He also wasn't gonna get 30 over two,
or 60 over two basses.
He's getting 33 this season.
Like 63 is what he signed or whatever.
Whatever that number was, everyone recognized
that was well below his market value.
And not only that, to take a well below market value and also say,
play a style of play that's not going to make you look dominant.
Now, even though that's the funny thing I said everybody's like, he had a great year.
Yeah, his season actually went better than you would expect considering his physique.
But the last time we saw him was a game seven, I think against the Celtics, he had six points.
No, but it means about to make a good point.
Six points. He had a really good.
He led the lead. No, I know he did.
What on you? He led the league in a sys.
20 and 10 shot the second best three point percentage of his career
and played a role that everyone said he could never play.
Oh, he'll know he can. He has to have the ball.
He did it. And by the way, yes, he had a bad game seven.
Why were they in a game seven and begin with? That's like, he,
what did game one of that series?
Like he had, he had remarkable,
he had a better outline arguably than Curry had on a game
clinching game seven on a series clinching your seven.
He got them to that game seven.
He had a big series to get them.
Yes, because they were up in that series.
Yeah, yes, yes.
Now, did he have a bad game seven?
Absolutely.
I'm not here to say like, oh, James Harden,
it wasn't his fault
Whatever it's not his fault like it's not his or are Blake's fault. I was gonna say Drake's fault
Because he had a concert. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm getting my my things confused. Yeah, but
The point is no, it wasn't my fault
It wasn't my fault either you were feeding me the line. It was so loud in my ear wasn't my fault either
Well, it was a by-fall either. You were feeding me the line, it was so loud in my ear.
Wasn't my fall either.
Yeah, go.
I'm getting lost in the multiverse.
The reality is, this dude is a great player.
Now the problem is, and this goes back to Stu Gotts'
question in last segment, is the lie, hey, opt-in,
that'll make it easier for us to trade you?
Because had he opted out, he could have gone the market and and maybe got the bag of money that
Houston threw at at Fred Van Vleet right the bags of money that got thrown all over
the league maybe he could have been one of those people but i believe that's the
lie he's talking about where it was like hey sign this thing opt-in and i will
take care of you i will trade you and now he's saying i'm not going to trade
you and it like no coincidence that his Dalmoy's a liar speech
comes within 48 hours of a report
from the mainstream media that Dalmoy shut down all talks,
don't even call me about James Harden.
So he's picking and choosing how much he values James Harden.
He values him by like the contract
he's not actually willing to give him.
Well, I mean, I think he's picking and choosing
to what makes it more convenient for him,
and maybe Darryl is trying to be,
as he's known to be,
coy in negotiation,
and be like, well, you know what, maybe I'm not gonna trade him
and hoping the clippers step up with something more substantive,
but like the reality is,
that much like Miami and Portland is like,
look, this is the deal, dude.
It can't get that much better or that much bigger. like the reality is the at much like Miami in Portland is like look this is the deal dude.
It can't get that much better or that much bigger.
He makes for a bad martyr, but if anybody would make for a good martyr, it's same in Lillard
and perceptions against him too.
See, but this is the thing they won't do what Hardin did ever.
Now what hard he's running into opposition that James Harnan isn't running into where
there are other forces plotting. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, noay doesn't like his deal. Well, I'm not showing up. There's only 16 games.
How about, if we give you a little bit more money,
you're like, okay, that's better.
And I'll show up.
In the NBA, my money's guaranteed, baby.
Okay, you don't like it.
I don't like it.
All right, cool.
I'll show up.
He did that in Houston.
Yeah, but mail it in for the preseason.
Like what happened?
James, well, James is.
Mail it in for at least long as you want.
The regular season as well.
James, well, James is not right. is going to want to try to his tummy.
You're right.
Mike, you are right.
But but all the mail in means I get delivery.
Well, let's I want to ask Dominique this because once the season starts, your professional
athlete, you're still making $33 million a year.
You're on a team that's good enough.
That team can contend.
It's him and Joel and bead.
Like doesn't just pride take over at that point and you start playing
hard. No. I so sometimes we make this mistake of thinking that because we're all former athletes
that we all think the same. I have no clue what is going through James Hard's mind. He didn't ask you
that. I didn't ask you that. He said, wouldn't you play hard if you're in the situation, not by you?
If you felt like you were lied to
and you still had to show up to the team,
go through training camp,
and then the regular season kicks in.
Who cares what I would do?
And I've never been in that position.
And so that's the point that I was making is like,
I don't know what it feels like
to be so valuable to an organization
that I can act like a complete asshole
and they can't do anything about it.
And like, I'm not judging him.
I know it seems like I'm judging him
by saying he's acting like a complete asshole.
I don't mean that negatively,
but I'm saying he is so good
that he is free to do whatever he is that he wants to do.
I get away with it.
You gotta, ha ha, ha, ha.
A minute too early.
You, uh, ha ha.
You gotta, you gotta make a mess? Stugots, you gotta, you want out? You gotta make a minute too early. You, uh, you got to, you got to make a mess?
Stugots, you got to make, you want out?
You got to make a mess.
Right.
You have to say, okay, oh, yes, he's making a mess.
And that's where I actually think that Damien Lillard's
different in a lot of ways, but I don't see Damien Lillard
being on the court and just doing what James Hardin has
already shown as he's capable of doing.
Right.
Like, and the reality is, without Without that all they'll do is say
He's a professional. He's all right. He'll be fine as soon as we start playing soon
He's starting winning everything is gonna be cool
But no if you've got somewhere that you want to be doesn't matter whether you're under contract or not
You want to get out show up to work show up to work and do a terrible job of it
How about show up to their work like I did to wfa yet
and do a terrible job of it. How about show up to their work?
Like I did to WFA yet.
The stigma.
If you want to be a clipper, show up to their can.
Yeah, just say.
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