The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The WFAT Power Hour

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Jonathan Zaslow, Chris, Jeremy, Jessica, Roy, and Tony. It's time for the Power Hour on the nation's preeminent sports radio station, WFAT! While Stugotz is ready to rip Re...ggie Miller, Rick Carlisle, and Spike Lee, and praise Jalen Brunson, OG Anunoby, and Josh Hart, but Zaslow can't believe we're not starting the show with the Florida Panthers mopping the floor with the Boston Bruins. We discuss Roy showing up hungover to work after celebrating, the definition of a "clapper," the tongue off, and Chucky taking down Pasta. But then, it's time to get back to the Knicks and what Jess and Stu argue may be the apex of Knicks fandom this season and how easy it is to fall in love with this team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:45 W-F-A-T. Outside of Jorge Sedano, I don't think there's anyone in the history of this market who knows where Stugatz's skeletons are buried. More than Zaslow. He has seen every incarnation of the Stugatz. Yep. From hungry to lazy to... Lazy. What you are right now, Stugats, which is fully engaged. This is, Stugats is working five days this week. It's the first time I can remember that,
Starting point is 00:02:15 and I do not know how long, and it's because the Knicks matter, and he is now programming WFAT. I am not happy with our guest list today, which is New York Agg, and Jasel, I'm gonna need your help beating some of this back because Stugatz is, you always wanna harness the maximum Stugatz energy, but the New Yorkization
Starting point is 00:02:38 of what it is that we're doing around here makes me uncomfortable. Yeah, you guys are feeling so good right now. You're gonna come crashing down soon though. It looks like your team's breaking down a little bit. Jalen Brunson, OG Ananobe, only so many injuries you could take. OG was great last night. I gotta tell you, he kept us in the game when Brunson went out. Enjoy while you can. What do you mean, while I can? While you can. Enjoy while you can. Zazzle, I haven't enjoyed this in 30 years. I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of it, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I will say a couple of things about what is happening here that is wonderful to watch. One, it's the most lovable Knicks team of my lifetime. Bar none. You can have whatever it is that you hate about those jerseys. It might be the only. But those players, Josh Hart playing more minutes than Will Chamberlain, like think about that forseys. It might be the only. But those players, Josh Hart playing more
Starting point is 00:03:26 minutes than Will Chamberlain, like think about that for a second. I mean that's classic Tibbado. Right. But playing more minutes than Will Chamberlain and this team is now representing when Jalen Brunson comes out in the second half and like doubles down on we're maximum underdogs, we come back from all odds, we can overcome anything with our heart, our Josh heart and our heart and Stein, we're gonna, with our heart on, you're gonna, on our sleeves.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Got it. Last night, I hope that I'm wrong about this, but last night felt like the apex of the Knicks season because all of these injuries are gonna be really tough to play with for the rest of the series. And if they somehow move on, playing against Boston with players that are going to have to contribute minutes that haven't played all season might be kind of tough.
Starting point is 00:04:16 But last night was the apex because they won at MSG again against the Pacers, a tough game. And Josh Hart, who is your favorite Knicks fans favorite Nick had words to say to Reggie Miller. I want to address basically everything that's happening there because I don't think New York understands that that's not the flex they think it is to remember how he tore your heart out with eight points and nine seconds 30 years ago. I don't want to hear about Reggie Miller.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I mean he has somehow inserted himself into this series. I am tired of Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller was nine and thirty-three for his career on the road against the Knicks. He had nine seconds. Nine seconds. Take those nine seconds away and Reggie Miller, according to Dan, who was asked by Boog Shambi at the Versace Mansion many, many years ago, Reggie Miller, not a Hall of Famer. Great moment. I am tired of hearing about Reggie Miller.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Inserting himself, and I don't want the Knicks to focus on him anymore. It's over. It was 30 years ago. He's overrated. He had nine seconds again, nine and thirty-three. Here's the thing though. The only thing you remember about Nick's Pacers are pace of victories. Yeah. Nobody remembers about the Knicks doing anything good. He could be nine and a thousand. Nobody remembers about the Knicks winning any of those games. It was Reggie Miller. All those points in a few
Starting point is 00:05:43 seconds and Patrick Ewing missing a layup, Pat Riley quits, and comes to Miami Heat. Let's get out of here, New York, who cares? I mean, all I remember about the 90s is Michael Jordan, so this is like a real argument for second place here in the East. But Reggie Miller was inserted by TNT onto this broadcast. This is usually just a two-man crew.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yeah, he didn't just show up and say, I'm working tonight. And they were like, we're putting him on this broadcast, even though it's at MSG. Oh, enough with TNT. And Knicks fans are going to be furious about it. So Josh Hart was reminding him, hey, by the way, buddy, you're still not welcome here. They followed him down the tunnel
Starting point is 00:06:16 like if he was playing in the game. You know how they do the inserts of, here's Steph Curry walking into the garden. It was like, Reggie Miller about to broadcast. It was like, eh. What I'm telling you about New York advancing to this space that makes the sport better that they haven't been to in a long time is that you could rummage around and you have to rummage around to get the excellence out of the Knicks
Starting point is 00:06:36 history into the past. And what you find to me, if Reggie Miller is one of the great villains in the history of sports what a compliment that you can't shut up about his nine seconds from 30 years ago the dudes almost 60 the dudes almost 60 and a whole arena is chanting about how bad he made them feel 30 years ago he's not even the best basketball player in his own family I want to hear about it from Reggie Miller. Thank you. I really thank you. Name another Reggie Miller moment. Go ahead. I dare you. Name one. When he pushed off Michael Jordan, he hit that three pointer and jumped around center court. It's a good moment. He's in the hall of one moment. That's what he is.
Starting point is 00:07:16 The fight against Michael Jordan. Stu Gotz was going to make that hall of one moment joke no matter how many examples you gave him. The hall of nines. I would love to have, if I were a villain and I did something and the middle of New York was singing my name 30 years later because of nine seconds of my villainy that I gave them. It was a tough nine seconds. Holy shit, I mean how memorable is that? I just can't think from any greater compliments
Starting point is 00:07:44 that a sports villain can get than to make that arena feel, for the first time, like it felt back when you were playing because you're invested in stakes. It made every Nick fan hate Spike Lee when it happened. Everyone blamed Spike Lee. You're right, we did. For Anthony Mason throwing the ball away. No,
Starting point is 00:08:05 for inciting him, for pissing off Reggie Miller. The moment is, and Spike Lee showed up with his Reggie Miller. Spike Lee showed up. I don't know how he got the contraband into the arena given that James Dolan confiscates everything and suspends people with surveillance. Yep. Breaking down something that happened 30 years ago. WFAT. I love it. That's what it is, baby. And so last night, Carlisle gets ejected and they have sent, I'm not making this. I am not making this number up. They have sent 78 missed calls to the league office from the from the first two games. Okay. That is unbelievable. I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:42 Rick Carlisle, how about you spend some time, stop cutting up tape, stop looking through the film to find where the missed fouls were. How about you spend your time coaching your team? WFAT! So adjustments, anything. Who gets the report and like, all right, give it to that guy in the back to review these calls. Like whose awful job is that to sift through 78 calls
Starting point is 00:09:06 that Rick Carlisle, not like our officials, that Rick Carlisle thinks is questionable. That's a shit job. There's no way they actually review it, right? They get that paper with all the links and they're like, don't worry about it. Send them an email back that it's under consideration. Under review.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And just throw it in the trash can. We're investigating. We're investigating. They're investigating. That's what you say. Just fall in. I do need to stop Stugats on something, though, because whatever you think the differences are between Carlisle and Thibodeau, Carlisle,
Starting point is 00:09:37 before the last round, hadn't won a playoff series since when? 2011? When was the last time that he won a playoff won the championship in Dallas. A playoff series. But whatever you think the difference is between Carlisle and Tibbs, when Stugat says, how about you coach your team? This is doing that. Trying to manipulate the officiating, when the officiating decided game one, Stugat, trying to manipulate officiating, that is part of coaching now.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Coaching your team is playing TJ McConnell, who's been maybe your best player through the first two games. Play him in the second half. I mean, he's guarding Brunson better than anyone. Play him in the second half. I mean, listen, that's coaching your team. You're talking about TJ McConnell. I'm over there watching Posternak get punched in the face by the class. I mean, TJ McConnell, who cares? I mean, you see how hard he is talking hockey right?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Not get a lot of love from me last night Look at Roy buoyant and hungover Has anyone in the history of the show showed up more for work hungover than Roy is he the league leader in the history? Of this show Chris Cody. I don't know Is he the league leader in the history of this show Chris Cody? I don't know He certainly hasn't said it as often as you are when I it's not a school night though, I'm getting after it Greg Cody's got some endurance He doesn't come in he doesn't come in broken from his dozen beers in the garage the night before You're the amateur who comes in here perpetually broken because you don't know how to moderate your drink. I just show up, Dan.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I know. I come here, man. I know you come here, man, and you do so hungover more than anybody because they got drunk on goals last night. Oh, that was good. That's a good segue. Six pack, Dan-o.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And better than that, because Panther fans are gonna like this part, it's not just that you win 6-1 It's that you're actually winning the violence. Yeah You you won the stick your tongue out at them game. That's right I love you, baby. Yeah, the thing was though. It was Boston that resorted to thuggery not Florida It was Boston and he lost Boston started the thuggery Florida finished the thuggery But you guys were very excited by the tongue-off
Starting point is 00:11:49 So good you're gonna explain it to Tony please because Tony every Tony is learning everything Tony I need you to pay even just glancing attention to what's happening in this year You know me and Billy told you don't worry about it until they get to the Stanley Cup final Yeah, we're gonna get locked in, but right now, we're going to have to do it. You're nuts not paying attention. There was so much fun stuff about that game last night. Monty sticking out his tongue at Marshawn last night. Posternak eating that fist.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Oh my god, how about that Posternak? Did you see him when he turned around to his coach? He goes, oh, could I fight? He asked his coach if he could fight. He asked him, oh, the mean guy, the bully on your team, am I allowed to fight him? And then pop, planted him, fist right in his mouth.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Let me tell you, which camera? Is that camera? Listen, Pashinok, you wanna fight someone, you fight me. Really? All right, which is more true here that Zaslow sounds like Maximum Sports Radio or with the backward cap and the entire look, looks like somebody on spring break in Daytona Beach.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That's all right, we're turning back the clock here, baby. He is Mad Dog before Mad Dog, because we've got Mad Dog coming on here on WFAT in about 25 minutes. You've never spoken to him before? No, no, I have. I have several times, but he's my hero. But you're very excited.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah, very excited. But you and Stegatz both have some some of the cadence copycatting that comes from knowing what it is that Mad Dog was in sports radio back when he was inventing. He is a major influence on me. Yep. The funny thing about the tongue off as you referenced that is actually a troll because Brad Marshawn actually licked the plant. Yeah, he licked the guy. That's right. Last year, last year right no it wasn't last year years ago is Ryan Collahan of the Rangers we did that the guy who was on the call last night yeah it was right calling him this is a rare thing that we
Starting point is 00:13:33 saw last night because this is not just a regular fight this is the best player on each team which you rarely see fight I mean Kachuk is like a he's a no he's he's an agitated fighter but he never fights and that one was so cool to see because they literally they talked about it before they're looking at each Other on the bench. It's like you want to go Please have you seen a player ask their coach for permission to fight. Here's permission to get knocked out. That's right. So good I think it was the 11th and 12th misconduct that period it was a fight. They were handing out 10 minutes like candy. Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Oh man, it was just a sight to see, man. It was a beautiful game. But why are we getting a Roy for celebrating? Because there are very few things in life that are better than nodding up a series at one game a piece. Oh, absolutely. Worthy of a celebration.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yes, absolutely. Yeah, the Panthers a little better. When you're down one nothing and you nodded up at one game a piece, that is worthy of a celebration. It is. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Absolutely. Hey guys, it's Tony. I am very, very, very excited about the NBA playoffs. They have been incredible so far. Taylor, producer on the show, thanks to Game Time, took a 28-hour train ride to a Knicks game. Talking to Taylor, it was an awesome time going to the game, feeling the energy of the garden, and I really want to get out there to watch a game in the garden.
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Starting point is 00:15:39 Been losing and losing for much too long. But now we're back with New York pride Stugats Jalen You've got us on our feet Jalen We're gonna win the East Jalen Without Randall we're still doing fine This is the Dunlap atatar Show with the Stugats.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Can you guys help me manage one of these situations? Because I don't know how to do this in the modern age because I am just so tired after so many years of doing this, having all of the conversations around the refereeing and the officiating in the deciding of games. But when Carlisle gets ejected and they flood the league office with 78 complaints about missed calls through two games, I don't want to do wah wah from Knicks fans, which is what they'll do when the moment they lose a game late against Philadelphia, those fans will do the same thing and then fans on the other side will do the wah-wah, stop with your
Starting point is 00:16:53 whining and whimpering. He's feeding that narrative that the NBA is rigged. He's saying small markets you get the same chances, same opportunities as big markets. That's not what he's doing. He's just setting up the calls for game three, going back to his building. I get it, Zazzle. There's no need to say it though. Rick Carley. No, there is need to say it.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Who won a championship. It's human nature. He won a championship in market number five. Do me a favor. How have the Knicks been the last 30 years? How have they been? So are you not going to help me? You're not going to help me further this discussion
Starting point is 00:17:22 because you want to keep doing the rinse repeat of every time there's a call We come on the next day and argue about the call and we have the same car argument for 25 years about this I don't like it either, but Rick Carlisle made a pretty crazy accusation after the game I understand why he's doing it, but he's essentially saying he feels like the series is right but how do we do that how do i and the that in the content business the thing that i'm asking you about because jalen brunson has become a genuine phenomenon good player he's not just a good player he's a good player even though you're left to wonder how does he do all of that given his size and speed. This is a little confusing. There are not physical gifts out there that would
Starting point is 00:18:09 suggest to me that when this guy comes back, Stu Gutz, in the second half to MVP chant, I'm not joking when I say this, in that building, moments like that, you got to go back 60 years for a fan base to fall in love with Willis Reed in the finals because what you're giving New York is the feeling of, wait, maybe with you? We can do this with you because of how tough you are, because of how much we love this team, because you are a team that Knicks believe they will find a way no matter what the issue is because Josh Hart will play 48 minutes and Brunson will limp out of the locker room and it's exactly the kind of team any fan base wants to have.
Starting point is 00:18:51 The one that gets swamped in the first half, Brunson goes to the locker room, fear sweeps through all of New York because he's going to be done for the playoffs. What does this mean? We've got no chance without him and Ananobe? He's going to go for almost 30 and then he's out at the end of the game. And you withstand that, even though what's on your bench is Charlie Brown, a guy named Charlie Brown, and Alec Berks. Yeah, I love Alec Berks, though.
Starting point is 00:19:14 He can give you 22 on any given night. He gave you one minute last night. I don't know about that. One minute, but he can. Regular season, check out the numbers. One minute last night. A single minute he gave you last night. Well, he'll play more minutes going forward here. I think Jess was right. We saw an apex last night, because single minute he gave you last night. Well, he'll play more minutes going forward here.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I think Jess was right. We saw an apex last night because the Brunson story, his individual story, and the Knicks story somehow got better. I didn't think that was possible. And somehow, it got better. I have no idea how he injured his foot. I don't care if he injured his foot. If he purposely left in the second quarter
Starting point is 00:19:43 to get that in the third quarter, good for Jalen Brunson. That is a heady play. But Dan, the story got better last night. A couple of Knicks fans agreeing with each other. Yeah. I know what they're doing. I know what they're doing. I can see it now. They're talking about this being the apex of the season. Just setting it up for once they beat Indy, heading over to Boston, maybe getting one on the road in Boston. All of a sudden, that becomes the apex
Starting point is 00:20:04 of the season. So, they're setting it up for down the road in Boston, all of a sudden that becomes the apex of the season. So they're setting it up for down the road. I'll tell you what I thought was the biggest moment last night, right at the end of the second, when Forsling puts the Panthers up 3-1. Huge. That was a big moment. I left my seat there, because he literally scored with what, like 0.3 seconds left? 1.3, yeah. And I admit, I left my seat, I had to get a bathroom. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Bathroom, bathroom, bathroom, bathroom. Get the video, get the Roy Bellamy tweet. I love how Roy tweets from games. You're saying right now that it's 1.3 seconds, but I saw on my timeline last night that Roy Bellamy tweeted that that happened with point three seconds left. They added a second.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But you didn't. Your tweet had three tenths of a second on it when he was drunk the clock said zero point three You got out there too quick with it. No, it's literally said zero point three rather be rather be first than right Yes, you're absolutely correct rather be first and right. Yeah, you wanted people to say Roy had it first Yes, Roy Bellamy had what first he first? He reported, yes, but Roy's tweets are one of the greatest things in the history of the written word in sports because he just tells you matter of factly in Roy's total character what just happened. Is he hockey magic Johnson? Wait a minute, that's insulting. A thousand percent. That is insulting. He's not as enthusiastic.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But I think Tony, since Tony hasn't been paying attention at all, I mean, what I do before I come into work, I've been keeping an eye on him. Is I read Roy's tweets because they're very informative and you will know exactly what happened in the game. All you need to do, you don't have to watch the game, just read Roy's tweets and you will know exactly. Listen to the hockey show also with Roy and David.
Starting point is 00:21:43 But that's on Fridays though. This game was yesterday. That's true, but it will keep you. Listen to the hockey show also with Roy and David. But that's on Fridays though. This game was yesterday. That's true, but it will keep you informed week to week. And then you don't have to watch the games. You can just pay attention to whatever Roy says. Roy's doing a good job. He's doing God's work. With 0.3 seconds left, Gustav Forsling
Starting point is 00:21:56 with a clapper to make it 3-1 Florida. It says right there, 0.3 seconds. That might as well be in Mandarin for me. I don't know One guy two guys Gustav pasta for sleep with a clapper to make it Do you want what you want to know the definition you want Roy's working definition with a clap of a clapper Yeah, I have no idea what of this. It's a slap shot Roy then later correct a clapper too. Roy then later corrected.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Make that 1.3, they put a second back on the clock. Oh, but look at that, he changed it from a clapper to a bomb. Yeah, you know, multiple ways to describe a slap shot. Right. And I went with an alternate way there. Stugatz, when a fan base falls in love with a team, there are multiple ways in basketball to fall in love the best.
Starting point is 00:22:50 When you have the guy who's scoring more than anyone else in the playoffs, which is what Brunson went into that game doing, but also, God almighty, do fans love this part of it? When you don't know where you're gonna get it from on a certain night and then that guy does what I don't know he does in the first half where you're like wait a minute that's not the offensive player that he is but they
Starting point is 00:23:13 need it and you're getting it in different spots Josh Hart in this postseason I don't recognize this player he isn't great he is not a 45% shooter from three and he's not somebody who routinely scores 19 points a game. But if you look at his game logs, there are a lot of 17 rebound games in there. Josh Hart, for a 210 pound guy, is exactly the kind of guy when Jessica says he's your favorite, Nick's fan's favorite.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Nick, he plays exactly, him and Hartenstein play exactly the way you fall in love with the great guy. He rebounds at a clip where he looks like he's 6'10". And then you realize he's 6'4". He's just sky over Biggs over everybody to get rebounds. You can lock him in for double-digit rebounds every single night from that position is crazy. He had 15 last night. He's been great and Dan's right.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Like that's the beauty of this team. That's why we fall in love with this team. You're going to get what you're going to get from Jalen Brunson every single night. You have no idea who your number two is going to be on any given night. They're trying so hard. Yeah. The Knicks. Yeah, you only have five choices. To be the Miami Heat. Right. They're trying so hard. What are you talking about? The Heat are out.
Starting point is 00:24:19 We did this last year. We did the same thing. Everything you're saying right now. Replace it with Heat players' names. They're trying so they saw what the Heat did. Everything you're saying right now, replace it with Heat players names. They're trying so, they saw what the Heat did, I was like, man, I wish that was us. They're trying so hard to be the Miami Heat. That's what they're doing. He's right. He's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Gabe Vincent and Max Jones were crazy last year. Oh, Jalen Brunson, he's the best closer. We didn't know he was this good. Just replace everything you just said about Jalen Brunson with Jimmy Butler. Oh, I didn't know he's 45% from three. Oh, okay, replace the name with Jimmy Butler. It's the same, every game's close,
Starting point is 00:24:49 the Heat pulled out, they had tons of threes, they play good defense, they play hard, nobody thought they were this good. They wish they were the Miami Heat. We're going for the Heat, that's what you're saying. Yeah, that's right. Really. Well, a championship organization, yeah, like, makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Could do a lot worse. Right. Yeah, like, being the Knicks last 600 years. Hard to do better, yeah. You're right. I'm really surprised that Zaslow doesn't have that old Knicks hatred in his gut. Because he hates Boston more, you know. Understood, but Boston didn't bring the physical fights. Boston didn't bring the opposing coaches hanging on to Alonzo Mourning's ankle
Starting point is 00:25:27 at the center of the court. I think yesterday was 25 years since Alan Houston. I think it was yesterday. Rough day. That shot that he's talking about is Pat Riley sobbing at his desk after that game realizing he's gotta blow up his whole team. Like in the locker room, that shot, and it's faded. God, it's good to blow up his whole team like in the locker room. That shot and it's faded.
Starting point is 00:25:46 God, it's good to have him back. It is. I've missed them. It's decades of irrelevance. Plural. I have missed this so much. This team mattering in this sport. The part that really messes with my mind though, I'm having difficulties
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Starting point is 00:27:29 ["The Stoogots"] Tony, not that this is usually the subject matter that we have here on WFAT, but what is your problem with the Catholic clergy? Dan, I thought you'd never ask me. So this goes back, the beef between me and the Catholic clergy goes back to Easter, the day before Easter, right?
Starting point is 00:27:51 So I'm at a Catholic service because my wife's cousin is getting married in the church, but they were doing it kind of different, whatever. So we're at this huge Easter mass. And Dan, I don't know if you've ever been to an Easter mass before, they were getting all of the sacraments in at one time. So we had kids doing first communions. We have kids getting baptized.
Starting point is 00:28:11 They're like two years old. We have people getting a show. It's a big show. It's like it's four hour mass. What, which one's the big one? Christmas or Easter? East from what I saw Easter because I was there for four hours. It was insane. They did it all the night before like the Easter vigil mass. That's why I was. Oh, you were. So it was there for four hours. It was insane. I thought they did it all the night before, like the Easter vigil mass. Yeah, that's what I was at. Oh, so it was like Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Saturday night, exactly. Oh yeah, don't go to that rookie mistake. I was promised, hey, hour in and out, we're gonna see them tie the knot, everything's great, I'll see you guys later, we're gonna go to the ale house. Like whatever, right? So as I'm sitting there, hour one goes through, they sing like 40 songs, hour three goes,
Starting point is 00:28:46 like I'm at a place where I'm like, all right, we got to get out of here. But how many baptisms you're saying it's all about confirmations. It's everything. It's literally every converted Catholics also get confirmed. I believe there's like, it's a special moment for a lot of people, but it's a clearance sale of Catholicism. Like it's just everything. It's everybody in one.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Just you're getting communions, you're getting little breads, you're getting babies are getting dunked in the thing. Old people are getting dunked in the thing. It was crazy, right? So they get to a point, Jess, maybe you can help me on what things are called. If I remember, I will try to help. I was just thinking about when you mentioned babies getting
Starting point is 00:29:19 dunked in the baptismal font. I thought about during COVID when they were like, hey, this is like, we're gonna get germs. Instead, we're gonna spray these babies with like the spray guns full of like baptism water, holy water. Oh man, those were crazy times. So Dan, let me set the scene.
Starting point is 00:29:34 There's 400 people in this church, right? It's kind of muggy, if you want me to be honest, a little hot in there. They're singing songs, lights are going on, people standing up and down, like I'm not used to it, right? Whatever, I'm there just enjoying the ride, just making sure that we watch, which ends up being the very last thing by the way. But were you trying to do a move of go to the Saturday mass so that you
Starting point is 00:29:55 get your Sunday for free? You get your- No, I still had to go Sunday. Oh, you had to go- I still had to go Sunday. Yeah, I still had to go Sunday. This was more for, hey, they're getting their marriage blessed. We have to go watch it. So the entire family's there. And at a certain point, they do the spritzing of the holy water for people, right? So people come up, they get the holy water. All of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:30:14 You mean like they sprinkle it on you. It's not like they mix Aperol into it. Just wanna make that clear. It's not spritzing, it's with the chains and the. So all of a sudden, El Papa, or whoever it was, the cardinal, I don't know the names, he gets like this like, imagine like a mop, but like a little mop, right? It has like these like strings of yarn or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So he's going around people and just kind of like, like Petey Pablo putting his shirt around his head like a helicopter. So he's kind of doing it to people whatever so yeah right so people are getting blessed with the holy water picture the the church is almost like at a slant so he's going upstairs and he's kind of like stadium seating stadium seating he's kind of like waving around like everybody's like yeah and then you do the sign of the cross when the water hits so yeah this guy I'm sitting at the edge top because we got there late so I'm sitting at the edge top of the cross when the water hits you. So this guy, I'm sitting at the edge top, because we got there late.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So I'm sitting at the edge top of the stadium seating. So he turns a corner. He looks at me. I'm standing there. We're all kind of standing. And they're like, yeah, come on. Let's make it happen. This guy cocks back.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Guys, I swear to you. He cocks back with the thing and goes, really? When he hits me, guys, my glasses, it was like water pouring down my glasses. I had a green shirt on. The entire shirt. You needed it. The entire shirt is soaked.
Starting point is 00:31:30 He knew. He saw you standing up there with your fists on your hips. He's like, that guy's got demons inside. I can see it. Dude, he hit me with a gallon of water. Like my glass, I needed windshield wipers for my glasses. They were pouring. My entire family laughing.
Starting point is 00:31:46 The water is a little weird, right? It has a scent. A little bit, like incense. I took a shower in it. Yeah, so his thought process was probably like, this is someone who only comes to mass once every 10 years, so I'm going to give him enough holy water for the rest of his life, because he may never
Starting point is 00:32:03 come back after this. Dan, he hit me with such a stripe of water that I was sitting underneath an air conditioning vent, again, muggy, but hot air hitting me, and it was just, my glasses started fogging up. Now you're damp and swampy. And I'm just sitting there, they do it again. Another guy comes by about to do it,
Starting point is 00:32:21 and I had to like... I'm like, I'm good, I'm good. So I don't know if I'll ever go back. You're extra unholy though. It's like a brisket mop on a smoker. Literally, that's exactly what it was, with just holy water, just absolutely smoked me. So I don't know if I'll ever go back.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I have beef with the Catholic clergy, they're gonna have to make it up to me somehow. I don't know how, but we'll figure it out. He hit him harder with that water than Chuck hit pasta with that punch last night. It hit me like 90 miles an hour. He cocked back with like a crow hop in the little dress like he cocked back and just wha!
Starting point is 00:32:49 When I was a child and we had to go to mass once a week and they they only do the holy water thing on holy days I believe or on special occasions because it's not a thing that they do in every mass and I remember always feeling like I got cheated if I didn't get a little splash of the holy water because everyone else would be getting like a little splash and then you do it and then I would just, sometimes you'd just be sitting there and you'd be like, well, I didn't get any.
Starting point is 00:33:11 What happens now? I'll bring you my shirt, you can bring it out, it's still soaked. Well, Tony's got enough so that on average, over a lifetime, he'll be okay even if it never happens to him again. It's the way that Josh Hart has played an average of 48.2 minutes in the last five games,
Starting point is 00:33:26 even though they've only had one overtime game. He's playing more than 48 minutes per game, Stu Gotts. He's been great. Thank you for bringing it back to the Knicks, to the Mecca. That's the place where I observe my religion. Let's take some phone calls here at WFAT. Our callers are doing our jobs for free at WFAT. Let's go to Vinny on a car phone.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Vinny, go ahead. Hey, guys. I love WFAT. You guys are the fattest. The fattest. What a night last night. I mean, when Jalen Brunson came out at halftime, and I heard them MVP chants, I was fundamentally
Starting point is 00:34:03 altered as a human being. I will never be the same again unless we lose game three, then we are chokers and deserve to die. I thought that was Ric Flair. That sounds just like Ric Flair. Vinny's right though. I mean, you know. You want to take more callers? I do. We're taking callers now. WFAT, yeah, big Nick game last night. Let's take one more here. Let's go to Mike in the Bronx. Go ahead, Mike. Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. This team, man. I mean, come on, no Julius Randall. I was there. No Mitchell Robinson, no whichever
Starting point is 00:34:35 by Donovich is the one that we got. No Edna Norby by the fourth quarter. I mean, no Brunson in second quarter. I'm at the goth. they ran out of hot dogs by the third quarter. No pretzels. I track these concessions. I ate a lot during the game. No pretzels by the end of the game. They didn't run out of seltzer, all right? I mean, they had seltzer,
Starting point is 00:34:54 but not like the cherry kind that I like. I mean, this team, nothing can stop this team. Nothing, we had nothing. We had nothing. Nobody in the stands had any pants on by the end of the game. We all stood there with nothing. We still beat the game. I don't want calls. We still put the price off of them. Go next.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Why are we taking calls? Can I just say as someone who is here on WFAT for the first time, I mean, can you explain to me how embarrassed you think David Posternak is that he had to ask his coach if he could fight and then he got knocked out and then he had to leave the game. How embarrassed do you think he was? Kachuck all dent in his face. Excuse me. I butchered that Jesus like Tom Thibodeau. Let's take a call WFAT Please no calls, please. Hey guys, thanks for taking my call
Starting point is 00:35:38 I thought I thought we showed Reggie Miller last night with that chant. I mean, we got his ass. I was there. We heckled a nearly 60 year old man. We proved to him, to the world, that 30 years later, we still remember how he took our choking dog, Nicks, with eight points and nine seconds, and people who did not know that, or weren't old enough, who weren't born yet, we taught a whole new generation
Starting point is 00:36:05 what losers, what losers we used to be. Ah, you know the tabloids, they blamed Spike Lee for the weak, for heckling them and making them sodomizers like that. I tell you what, he inflicted a pain that we handed down to the kids. It was, what was it, three decades ago, but we chanted at him in a sing song way back then and now I feel better. Even though 30 years ago, that was apparently one of the highlights of his life and one of the definitely worst moments of our lives.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I mean, it had to be one of the worst things to ever happen to a New York sports team. Had to be. I mean, Reggie used to say, I remember this, he loved being a villain. He enjoyed that, the quiet he inflicted on the road, even more than a roar of a home crowd. So, you know, I'm sure he was deeply insulted by us remembering what he did to us three, three decades ago. We got him good, I'm gonna hang up on this. I don't wanna take anymore calls, Stugats. You say that on a day like today, all you do is open up the phone lines
Starting point is 00:37:14 and go lazy sports radio person. And I don't believe. Just kill two minutes with a 20 share. I know, well you killed two minutes, but it wasn't any good. So? Any good. That was excellent call, I don't even know what he said, but it was great. I don't care about quality in New York. I but it wasn't any good. So? Any good. That was excellent call. I don't care about quality in New York.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I mean, it's all good. I think the last one was my old neighbor. I had forgotten that part, that Reggie Miller says that he always enjoyed a quiet road crowd more than even the cheers of a home crowd. Chipper Jones used to say the same thing about doing that to Shea Stadium. So yeah, if that's something that you enjoy,
Starting point is 00:37:49 Reggie Miller leaves that arena last night like he's just imbibed from a fountain of youth, no? He had 45 chances to enjoy that feeling. He did it 12 times. I don't hear about it. I think he feels alive when he leaves that building last night, right? Like they're searching for that rush again
Starting point is 00:38:07 after they retire. I feel like he feels alive. I feel like he thinks he's in the series. He's in it now. I will tell you guys that all of these athletes who leave sports and have such a hard time because there's nothing like playing in the center of that pressurized madness, when they get to the sidelines
Starting point is 00:38:26 JJ Reddick will look for whatever it is that he will find later in his career. It'll never feel like that There is no such thing you'll get near it. You'll be on the sidelines You'll coach and won't have control but being in the middle of it There's nothing like it but if you can be to the side of the stage and Feel like you're in the middle of it You can't give Reggie Miller a greater compliment on what his career was that never won anything,
Starting point is 00:38:48 a career that didn't get to the finals but once, right? One time got to the finals, half as much as Jimmy Butler in the last few years, Reggie Miller, and to have that all resurrected for you because at one time, though, you know, maybe the last time the Knicks mattered like this, honestly. Maybe the last time.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's probably been this long since the Knicks felt this kind of good. Maybe Lynn, maybe. Nah, 2000 was the last time they mattered. And they lost the Pacers that year, 2000. Okay, but mattered like this, when they're coming off of the Pat Riley, interrupting the OJ Simpson finals John Stark's going to for 18 and then
Starting point is 00:39:30 Riley goes to Miami and all of the balance of the conference changes This is a different time like that when you can combine all of these elements to gods that the team is an underdog It's cool and lovable and you get the nostalgia of I'm going to go grab some of the story so that I can remember what it was like to play the Davis brothers. Forgot about those guys, Antonio and Dale. A different time could not play today. Neither one of them don't have range in their offensive game. They were just
Starting point is 00:40:04 muscle.

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