The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Where's Jeremy?
Episode Date: April 22, 2024Today's Cast: Dan, Stu, Izzy, Chris, Billy, Jess and interestingly NOT Jeremy. The Heat got thrashed by the Celtics and most of the crew is fully expecting a sweep. The Panthers dominated the Lightnin...g and Dan cannot believe that Nikita Kucherov was nowhere to be found. It was all part of the most boring exciting weekend in history, which included Scottie Scheffler winning yet again. The crew also dives into plenty of topics from the NBA Playoffs, including whether people actually like watching the Celtics, Dame Time's arrival in Milwaukee, Anthony Edwards beefing with Kevin Durant and Kawhi and Joel Embiid continuing to struggle with availability. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm gonna ask a controversial question here
to start off our week, Stugat.
Is Sam Houser a better long-range shooter
than Larry Bird at Levitart Show?
Shot for your life?
No, different question.
That is not the same question.
It is not shot for your life.
It is simply, is Sam Houser,
because at some point, right,
the legends of our youth,
we're going to disrespect them,
the way Anthony Edwards disrespected Kevin Durant
during that game.
Everyone except for Michael Jordan.
Yep, I'm with you on that.
I think Sam Houser is a better long-range shooter
than Larry Bird. I think all of the skills is a better long range shooter than Larry Bird.
I think all of the skills in this sport
have gotten to such a crazy place
that the shot that's most valuable,
people are better at it today
because that's where the money is than they've ever been.
Brian Scalabrini said the thing, Stu Gott.
Yep, Scal.
He said the Code Red was ordered
and that Eric Spolstra.
Oh, come on. What are you shaking your head about, Roy?
Skull.
He'll be on with us later.
He was scheduled to be on with us.
Skull's gonna be on with us later?
Yes, but he was scheduled to be on with us
before he said this.
And now he's wandering around telling everybody
that Spoh ordered the Code Red.
Somebody's gonna have to make that Celtics Heat Series
interesting because it feels, after game one,
it feels both in hockey and in basketball
like the organizational shifts that have been necessary
in these rivalries that Boston has overtaken Miami
organizationally and that the Florida Panthers
have taken over the Tampa Bay Lightning organizationally.
This part though is very, very important.
Are you telling the audience,
cause it's a big distinction,
that we had Scal book before he said the thing?
Yes.
We're not booking him because he said the thing.
That is correct.
I am saying we are not adding flames to this fire
on purpose.
Izzy Gutierrez is here with us.
The playoffs in hockey and basketball have me feeling today the
sports slothy I feel on Monday only after football. But how? Nothing started yet.
Yeah. There have been no upsets, no road teams won, the playoffs haven't
technically started yet. Put it on the poll, Juju, at Leviton show. Have the
basketball and hockey playoffs actually started yet?
Yes or no?
Because in basketball, the games weren't even interesting.
No, just the one that I fell asleep on at the end.
I have no idea how that game ended.
I saw the score.
I was like, huh, OK, see, Pelicans, that's the one game.
But the rest of them were bad.
By the way, it's not a code red, because if you take out
Jason Tatum, the Celtics are still sweeping the heat.
So slow down, Scalabrini, slow down.
The Celtics, Dugats, at one point during that game,
I didn't see the final numbers,
but 66% of their shots were threes.
They never lose when they shoot that way.
They often shoot that way,
because they are completely overwhelming offensively.
One of the reasons this series doesn't bode well
for Miami is because Miami is not as good at offense
as Boston is at defense and is not as good at defense
as Boston is at offense.
Well I don't know if you guys want me to do this
because Mike's not here and you know when Mike
sort of speaks about his current fandom or lack
of fandom when it comes to the Miami Heat I feel like people are sort of
rolling their eyes but I feel like watching this Boston series just the
first game I kind of understand it now I understand his position I'm not fully
backing him I think if you're a fan you got to stick with it but I understand
his position when you look at Bam and Jimmy are effectively a duo that is, you know, not a perfect fit,
kind of like Tatum and Brown,
a duo not exactly a perfect fit.
They've tried to add the pieces around him.
They've tried a Kyrie Irving, a Kemba Walker, this guy,
and now Chris Dap's poor Zingus.
And now, in that time, they've also added a Derek White.
They've added a Drew Holliday.
Now, that imperfect duo looks like they're on
an all-timer type of team.
That's all Mike was asking.
We've got Jimmy, you've got Bam.
Put the right pieces so where five years down the road,
you have this unstoppable team.
He was looking for his,
Jason Tatum was looking for his Palgasol.
He got it in Chris Stapp's Porzingis. Jimmy and Bam still are looking for their Palgasol.
Give it another year. And this is where I'm saying with Mike is like, don't give up. Give
it another year because, whoa, just telling you Miami's in position to maybe get another
big time player next year. And what will that team look like? It would look way better if
you're playing with a Donovan Mitchell in there the same way the Celtics team looks
with a Chris Daps Porzingis.
So the Celtics are actually doing the heat thing
better than the heat.
Tyler Hero has done some damage to his value
over the last few games of inefficiencies.
And I don't know about the rest of you
as it regards this sport,
but I still find it disorienting
To see the seven foot three guys shooting from 30 feet
Why why would anybody block that shot that has been almost the entirety of my life a terrible shot
Imagine Kareem shooting from that distance. That's what it's like
To see the seven foot three guy do that.
I talked to a, guys I was surprised by this,
I talked to a person that's high ranking in the NBA
who would know stuff about player evaluation,
who said he would take 13 centers over BAM.
Really?
13 centers.
Huh. Don't talk to that person anymore. Did he list them? He did. Really? 13 centers. Huh.
And he-
Don't talk to that person anymore.
Did he list them?
He did.
Really?
I'm gonna get the list for you.
Porzingis was one of them,
but one of the reasons for it
is the stretching of the floor
that Bam doesn't do the way Porzingis does.
I still don't think watching that game
that Bam wants to be taking the threes.
He'll take them,
but it doesn't feel like he wants to be taking them. Not. He'll take them, but it doesn't feel like
he wants to be taking them.
Not his job.
There's a whole other side of the floor
that poor Zingas could not do any of the things
that Bam does.
Izzy, you made good points,
but they aren't playing without Jimmy Butler.
I mean, it should be noted.
No, no, no, I'm not saying that this Heat Team
is what it is.
I'm saying if Jimmy was there, they would still be underdogs.
You are saying this Heat Team is what it is.
That is what you're saying. You're saying it is what it is. I don't know what that is. I'm saying if Jimmy was there they would still be underdogs. You are saying this Heat team is what it is. That is what you're saying. You're saying it is what it is. I don't know what that is. What is that? You got me. I'm saying the pieces around them have not gotten good enough over the years. We're still, oh we have enough. No, it needs to be overwhelming. It used to be back in the day with the Heat Big 3, that was overwhelming talent. What are you gonna do with that?
Now the talent's more spread out.
There's duos all over the league.
It's whelming, you're saying.
It's whelming talent.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And this whelming talent here in Miami
is just not enough to get people like Mike excited
who have been on this train the entire time.
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Don LeBattard.
All these high paid analyst.
I don't want to mention names, TNT, ESPN, you know, oh yeah, they, they,
they, they can look, they're not going to make it, you know, even if they win
in, if they lose it in Miami, I need to calm you down.
I need to calm you down. That's right. If they lose in Miami, they don't got a win in Miami. I need to calm you down.
That's right.
If they lose in Miami, they don't get a chance in Boston.
Oh, they are going to have their ass, you know what, in Boston.
Stugats.
They were wrong.
Are they going to lose a job?
No.
Are they going to get a cutting pay?
No.
What are they going to do?
Keep predicting what is the obvious.
They are going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win.
Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? The Heat are going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win, oh, Denver, the altitude.
And you know what?
The Heat are going to win it all.
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Mike didn't even watch the Heat game.
He was at Panthers.
Roy, you're leaving early today
because you've got a big Panthers interview, correct?
Yes, we have an interview with Anton Lundell.
Wow. How did you feel watching a game in which- My pillow game? Correct? Yes, we have an interview with Anton Lindell. Wow! Nice.
How did you feel watching a game in which-
My pillow guy?
Yeah.
No, that's a different Lindell.
That's Lindell, actually.
That's your first contribution
letting anyone know you're here today, Billing?
Just asking in case of confusion.
How did it feel watching a Lightning playoff game
and I didn't see Kucherov?
Didn't feel him, didn't have any idea where he was?
It felt good.
I mean, the Panthers really threw the Lightning
off their game plan for the first 15 minutes of the game
and it really felt good.
It was a good grind in that game.
The first shot for Tampa in the game
happened like seven minutes left in the first period.
So yeah, it really played the game.
Yeah, but those next three minutes. Okay. All right. They took,
they took advantage of the one defensive lapse that the Panthers had on the third
opportunity off the faceoff play. They had, that's when they scored. That's when Brendan Hagel
scored. But outside of that, it was all Panthers. That second period, you weren't nervous even for
a second. No, no, because the Panthers played very good defense in this game and it was really good.
It was a very physical game. It wasn't the type of, you know, bulldozing, boyover type checking.
It was like enough checking to get you off of the puck and take the puck away.
P.K. Subban said that he wanted more hatred. That was his analysis.
It's just the first game of a series.
It's a long road to Lord Stanley, Dan. You don't want to bust your body up to early.
Roy, I'm going to call BS on you, by the way,
because I do think 1-1 headed to the third.
You were nervous just because of the opponent.
I do.
No.
No.
They really threw the lightning off their game.
They really did.
109 hits in that game.
Everybody got a hit.
I've never seen that before.
The entire team, both teams, each player got a hit,
except for the goal team.
Why is Subban out here saying that he wants more hatred?
He does, I mean he wants hockey to work in Florida,
and that's apparently what's gonna take him.
We don't need more hatred, there was no need for hatred.
There's enough hatred between these two teams,
I mean regular season pass playoff appearances,
there's enough hatred there and it will build up.
We need more. Mark Messier's
Analysis is that the third goal was going to win that game because of what Roy's talking about
The neutral zone was entirely controlled by the Panthers. Oh, yeah all the entries that the lightning had in this game
They pretty much clogged them up
It was a sight to see do the rest of you feel the way that I do on this Monday the way that you do after
A college football Saturday and Sunday because there was I'm a little bit overwhelmed by the amount of sports that there were over the weekend
But it wasn't necessarily good or dramatic. You don't have
Anything that gave you an excitement and enthusiasm a surprise game one win a road team winning a game one
Lot of blowouts all these teams should join a conference.
I don't like seeing blowouts in the playoffs.
The rare, boring, exciting weekend.
Nailed it.
Was it?
It was like there was a lot going on,
but there wasn't a lot of interesting stuff going on.
I felt like it's generally how I feel when I go to Vegas.
I'm excited when I go there,
and by the time I'm leaving I feel dirty and broke.
Don't ever want to be here again. and it was worse for South Florida fans because it was all over by what?
3 p.m. And then you've got all this other sports to watch this is already hung over
This is another problem that all of their games in the first the first two games. They've got another conflict the next time
They're giving me both games that have stakes that I care about it exactly the same time
I need it spread out there was an outlier to this The Jets beat the Avalanche seven to six.
13 goals in that game.
Yep.
That was a banger.
Thank you.
That was a banger.
There was something.
And the game that you missed
because you fell asleep busy in basketball,
CJ McCollum had a bad shot late.
He was well guarded and they missed Zion at the end.
Got it, thanks.
I was watching golf yesterday.
Nellie Korda, I mean.
That's Scottie Schaeffler, my God.
A couple of stars.
Why's he playing so much?
Take a week off, buddy.
Are you having a kid or not?
It was a signature event,
so I think there's a bigger purse if you play.
RBC Heritage, yeah.
A lot of the pros like that tournament.
Yeah, he's tight on money.
If you guys were that great at golf,
you'd want to play all the time. I'd never playing. Oh, I wish. You guys are sitting here saying,
why is he playing so much? No, we all suck at golf. Because he's better than everybody.
If I was that great at golf, I would hate golf because of the amount of time that I
need to dedicate to golf to be that great at golf. But I think what Chris is saying
is you just want a green jacket. You just had a kid, like take a weekend off. I don't
think he had the kid yet. No, I don't think he had the kid yeah I don't really yeah stubborn one huh oddly enough he wasn't
willing to leave the RBC you think he had the kid in between Sunday at the
Masters and this weekend that's what I thought if he had the kid it would
explain why he's playing so much golf Billy what do you feel like you're great
at if you're saying I don't want to put in the effort to be great no I didn't
say don't want to put in the effort to be great. No, I didn't say I don't wanna put in the effort
to be great, I never said that.
Don't put those words around.
What you said is that that kind of greatness,
you would hate golf because of the effort
that you had to put in to be that great.
I would be tired of playing golf
if I was that great at golf because of how much time
and effort I would dedicate to golf.
It would be boring to me at that point, become a chore.
Stugatz has proven you can dedicate a lot of time to it
and not be that good.
Yes I have.
It's actually stunning.
While telling everybody how great he is at golf,
that's the thing.
I can't believe how average he is at golf
for how much golf he plays.
Like the one time that I played with him,
I was like, huh, this is, huh.
I'm actually impressed by Stu on the golf course
because he clearly has a herniated disc somewhere.
Like there's an injury out there.
But he is swinging away.
L2, L3, L4, and I believe now L6 and L7, I believe.
I haven't been to a draft, either.
Stu got his cure instead of stretching self-care
for all that Ailes is back for years is to get the shot that pregnant women
get to give birth.
Ah, the big shot.
The epidural shot.
That is, it's not to repair anything.
It's just simply to soak it in medicines.
It's a bridge to the next shot.
Put it on the poll at Levitard Show.
Is Dugatz's golf game a medical shot as a bridge to another
medical shot?
I have to make it a medical shot because the shots in golf is what they're called shots.
That's a good one, Dan.
It's not a good one.
I just have to make the tortured explanation.
Roy go sit outside.
I mean, come on, it was a call back. It's not that I didn't understand the joke. The tortured explanation Roy go sit outside
It's not that I didn't understand the joke
I know but I was apologizing for explaining. I apologize as well. You're penalized for saying it as well Do the Heat fans all feel a little bad because of how excited they were to beat the Bulls in the play-in and then
What happened on Sunday
just put them back into like,
oh yeah, that's why we were in the play-in.
Like you feel weird, right?
It's a weird weekend.
It's hard to see how the Miami Heat
are going to win a game in that series
because Boston has gotten a good deal better
and if they're going to be healthy never mind
if they shoot like that if they shoot like that you have no chance but you got
they often shoot like that I told you earlier this season there there was a
game they had in which all five of their guys made three threes it was the first
time five starters it was the first time like I think it's happened three times
ever and they've done it twice this year.
Their shooting is ridiculous.
They had three guys with four threes
in game one against the Heat.
They had poor Zingas, they had White, who's been great.
He has been great and they had your boy, Hauser.
I would push back that Heat fans were excited
after beating the Bulls.
We didn't have Jimmy, it was pretty,
like we won that game, but Jeremy was.
Jeremy was after it.
Other people were speaking for the Heat fan
after that game.
You had Chicago announcer say,
Heat culture's a real thing.
Spoh was basically setting you up
for the loss to the Celtics when he said,
you have to earn your playoff appearance.
It's not something that can be given to you,
and I don't take for granted making the playoffs.
So just telling you, hey, we're still relevant in a sense.
My question for you on the South Six is,
do you like watching them play?
Isn't that the style of basketball
that people just get annoyed by?
It's just like tic-tac-toe, easy three.
If you don't like it, then you don't like
what the modern game has become in general.
Because they're the ones who have perfected it they're doing that better than
Anybody in the league is doing it. So you may have a golden state started it though, right?
I mean, yes
But they're doing it better now than anybody and if you don't like the way they're playing and they're playing still gots Trey
Young's available by trade right now
He doesn't play any defense
but the evolution of the game has bothered a great many people because of how it is
that you're playing along the perimeter
and shooting from a million feet away,
and all of a sudden what you used to like about the post
and playoff basketball is gone.
Trade Young.
Well, I thought, I stepped right on that one.
I thought exactly what Stu did.
I thought of the Warriors,
and that's when I, watching them play,
I'm like, well, wait a second.
It's not just Steph and Clay here.
All these guys can hit this three,
and they're gonna hit it at a ridiculous clip.
And four out of seven, not one out of seven games,
four out of seven games are probably gonna shoot it
like that, and what are you gonna do about it?
And so I think that where, you know,
the real basketball fans wanna see Jalen Brown
cross you over and dunk, eh,
they just wanna see him get into the lane,
three more passes, that's a wide open three.
I'm not saying it's boring, I love basketball,
I just think that this is where the fans
who don't love basketball don't love watching this.
And Jason Tatum having a triple double, but I don't even remember a play outside of him
getting clipped.
I'd go another route on this.
I would say that I would have preferred
the Heat lose against the Bulls,
so I didn't have to watch what I'm about to watch.
But imagine the Bulls playing the Celtics.
If you thought Sunday was bad.
But Dan saying he'd rather watch that.
No, I just wouldn't want to watch it. I just wouldn't wanna watch it, that's right.
You've got it right.
But Atlanta, I would've liked seeing Atlanta
against the Celtics just because they played them tough
a couple times this season.
Kobe White had a night on the beach, huh?
I mean.
Trade young.
Kobe White was not very good down here,
but that game feels like it was a million years ago.
That game against the Chicago Bull a million years ago, that game
against the Chicago Bulls.
It does. And really, when I think of Heat fans reacting to that game, I'm just thinking
about how last night I opened TikTok and the first video I saw was Jeremy reacting to the
Bulls, the win over the Bulls from Friday night. And I was like, why is he so happy?
The Heat just lost today. And then I realized it was like a three day old video. And I was
like, that's hilarious. Suspiciously, Jeremy is out today,
doesn't want to deal with any of the shame
that would be coming his way.
A couple of the moments though
from the weekend in basketball stugats,
Damian Lillard with Giannis out, they drag the Pacers
and Damian Lillard, you are seeing here
some B-roll of him on the court.
Stephen A. Smith has reported that he's unhappy there.
A lot of people are talking about
if there's a first round exit,
he's going to leave Milwaukee or want to be out of Milwaukee.
But this part feels good,
where he's at the center of everything.
He's been at Coachella the last couple of years
during the playoffs, he was lamenting that.
And here you can see him mouthing,
this is why you brought me here,
this is what you brought me here for.
But for me, the thing that I wanted to analyze with you guys
because of how disrespectful it was,
so Anthony Edwards has said that Kevin Durant
is his favorite player.
And on the court, you can see him mouthing
some form of you can't bleeping guard me
when Kevin Durant is on him.
Go ahead and enroll that.
And so he hits the three in his face
and as they're running down the court,
he says to me, what the bleep did I tell you?
And calls him an old ass right to his face
and the camera angle unfortunately shows Kevin Durant's
bald spot as he's calling him an old ass.
Did the cameraman went for that?
I mean.
I don't think so.
I do think it's wildly disrespectful
and I'm confused by it because I know that insults
can be a language of intimacy among men,
but when you respect someone enough to call them
your favorite player of all time,
how does Kevin Durant feel running up the court
and nodding, yeah, I'm old?
You're undercutting yourself at the knees
when you're like, oh, I just busted your ass.
Oh, but you're old, so I shouldn't really give myself
that much credit for it, which isn't.
The Timberwolves liked calling the Clippers old
on the sidelines, and you saw Stugats why in that OKC game,
why some people don't trust youth in the playoffs,
because youth can be knuckleheaded.
But Tarant is smiling at being called old.
He is smiling in Edwards' face.
I mean, he gets it, right?
It's kind of like the passing of the torch,
that kind of thing.
What do you mean he gets it?
I mean, he grew up idolizing Kevin Durant.
Now he's playing against Kevin Durant and beating him.
But gets what though?
It's disrespectful.
And as he says it in his face, my guess is the competitor in Kevin Durant and beating him. But guess what though? It's disrespectful. And as he says it in his face,
my guess is the competitor in Kevin Durant
is made agitated by it.
In this game, they happen to be down 25,
but I'm guessing he's smiling in a way that thinks vengeance.
He's not smiling in a way that thinks
he's actually happy about that.
He should have said back,
you're young and you're a knucklehead.
That would have been a good comeback.
Youth can be knuckleheaded're a knucklehead. That would have been a good comeback. Youth can be knuckleheaded.
You knucklehead.
You tell me how it is that Kevin Durant,
you imagine that he's receiving,
being told that he's old in a game that he's down 25.
Because Allen Iverson, when he crossed over
Michael Jordan famously at the top of the key,
kept it polite.
He didn't say anything.
Well, Jordan wasn't old yet.
Well, this is what Kevin Durant is about.
Like, Kevin Durant, he's almost the prototype real Hooper,
is he not?
And so, the real Hoopers, you can take the smack talk,
especially when it comes with this level of,
I know it sounds asinine, respect from Anthony Edwards,
because he's not doing this to anybody else. He says that loud, he's my favorite player ever. it comes with this level of, I know it sounds asinine, respect from Anthony Edwards,
because he's not doing this to anybody else.
He says out loud, he's my favorite player ever.
Me personally, I would treat my favorite player ever
quite differently if I met him or played against him,
but yeah, this is how he treats him,
and Katie's all about it.
I'm trying to envision a scenario.
What's he doing in this scenario
being respectful down the court?
What does the opposite of that look like?
Guiding down the court, like here you go, come. Can I guide you down the court. Like what does the opposite of that look like? Like guiding down the court, like here you go, come.
Can I guide you down the court?
Sorry I'm doing this to you, Kevin.
Just silence.
Just fine.
Just silence.
Silence would be more respectful.
Let your play speak.
Hey, it's just, I'm more respectful
than calling him an old ass.
It's more respectful than what Chris calls his dad.
To say it right in his face when the league is indeed sort of at the point where you expect
it to be taken from Kevin Durant.
Well they were probably going back and forth all game, right?
And we just have one isolated clip.
I'm sure Kevin Durant talked crap to him too throughout the game.
Oh but I'm talking about the specifics of the insult.
Like the place where it lands. and maybe he doesn't care,
but I would care about that is what I'm,
You would care if somebody called you old.
If I'm,
It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
If I'm in the position that Durant's in,
how often's he been a six seed?
Like where you see it slipping away,
where you see you have to play on their court
and you're down 25,
and the Beale Booker things not good enough this year
So this is a don't poke the bear situation. I know I'm saying poke the bear the bears old like I'm saying fine
That's what Edwards is say it's it's no it's an old-ass bear
But what I'm asking you guys is you guys are saying Kevin Durant is indeed smiling and meaning it and I'm like
I don't think so. I'm saying that one hurts in the places you don't talk about at cocktail parties.
I think game one, this is like, it's a long series, Rilke.
Like he's like, okay, see if you're laughing when it's over.
Kevin Durant's 35.
Sports are insane.
He's the age of Nicholas Batum.
So it hurts.
He's old.
In the anus?
Don LeBretard.
God doesn't even know what this list is.
He was the head of Tom Brady, who also won a playoff game.
A couple, yeah.
That was literally the most confusing list
we've ever done.
She both got a better shot at coming back.
I'm mad.
He's got more leaders.
I'm mad.
I'm angry.
I'm angry at you.
I want to leave.
Stugats.
This would have been your day.
This should be.
You should own the sports media landscape
I am top seven guys. I would not want the
This is the done libertar Show with the Stugats.
I was hearing from some people over the weekend, Stugats,
asking the specifics of what you're doing for the NFL draft.
Where it is that you will be, if people will be able to see you,
interact with you, meet and greet with you.
I'll be in Detroit-ish, around the area.
Like when you say around the area,
you mean like Ann Arbor?
Well, you know what, I asked Billy
what I'm doing for draft week,
and he said you'll be in Detroit-ish,
and so that's where I'm gonna be.
I think we're doing something Thursday night,
a live watch along for the first round,
up until the Dolphins pick
and a Draft King sports book in the Detroitish area.
But you don't know which one it is?
It's Draft King Sports and Social.
Yeah, Draft King Sports and Social in Michigan.
If you wanna go, you can go hang out there.
I'm intentionally not telling Stugat
exactly where it is,
cause I need him to get on the plane and get there.
On the bird?
And then once he gets there,
he'll get more of the information
that he doesn't need to know at the moment.
I just need him to get to the airport,
get on that plane, and then we're good.
All right.
I think.
Just came back from Detroit.
Yeah.
I was surprised to see you today, to be honest with you.
I never know what's going on with you. And I'm the person people come to to find out what's going on with you
I'm sorry about that Billy, so it you're just staying until the Dolphins pick don't they have like the 21st pick around there
It's gonna be a long night. Yeah, we're gonna be on from 8 8 p.m. Until the Dolphins pick ish is the plan right now
The next 11 well, I mean I mean you have to pay for internet
It's not free you know what I mean we I mean, who cares? You have to pay for internet, it's not free,
you know what I mean?
We're not gonna be here until 1 a.m. watching teams pick.
We need to know what the Chiefs are gonna do
at the end of the first round, who cares?
So we'll be here, Stugats will be in Detroit-ish
with Mike Ye, they're gonna be reacting live all Wednesday.
Stugats is gonna be talking to some draft picks,
we're gonna be checking in with him,
we're gonna be checking in with the fans that are there,
with him in Detroit-ish Michigan,
we're gonna be checking with Lucy, who's gonna be on the ground. She's gonna be doing some off-roading
We're gonna be checking with her for fan reaction. I'll be here manning the ship Dan
Don't you worry about that Jess will be here Tony will be here. Juju will be here Chris will be here
I believe everyone's welcome to attend whoever wants to be here is free to come if you'd like Dan
Yeah, no, thanks
I hate all draft why because I hate them all he doesn't want us to make fun of his popcorn again I
You guys should be so honored that I would make popcorn for you on a draft
I will not know I will not be partaking in anything draft related
Why not deliver because I hate the draft a big day for the company. We've already covered this. Yes, yeah.
It's a big draft, it is.
I don't care.
What are the Dolphins gonna pick?
They got a lot of needs.
More about the draft than I did before.
Right?
Hmm.
I'm going to it, I mean.
I know.
And there are 16, the top 16 picks,
there are a lot of quarterbacks needed,
so you guys are gonna convince yourself
that JJ McCarthy's a great professional quarterback?
Tell me why he's not. Yeah. Because I saw him play all of last year a lot of quarterbacks needed, so you guys are gonna convince yourself that JJ McCarthy's a great professional quarterback?
Tell me why he's not.
Yeah.
Because I saw him play all of last year
and his coach tried to hide him.
Magic champion.
Before getting that 15 and 0 tattoo
that he got this weekend.
Draft expert.
To be fair, they didn't need to throw a lot, so.
That's right, and that is my indication
that if they were good at throwing,
my guess is they would have.
You know what would be fun to do this week?
Let's draft drafts
We'll go around and we'll draft our favorite drafts. Like I would take the NFL draft first
Well, I like that. Yeah, that would be so would your military draft be last or first?
I'm not taking that of you doesn't exist anymore
Thanks. Good. Thanks for your service
Or is it it would you put it you wouldn't put it last right?
You'd put it somewhere else just to be politically correct
so that you couldn't be too controversial
by calling it the worst and the most un-American of drafts
even though it was at one time very American?
Draft gangs would be number one, of course.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
I think a draft Miller Lite would be in there somewhere.
Miller Lite draft, yeah.
The draft you get up your shorts
when you ride a roller coaster with that under one.
Ooh, I love that. World drafty. Can't relate, that sounds like a good one. Millerlite draft. Yeah, yeah the draft you get up your shorts when you ride a roller coaster
Put it up on the pole, please do at Leviton show is the draft up your shorts on the roller coaster
A good drag when you're not wearing underwear. I'm just going by Stu gots his word here. That's the key. No underwear. Is it the king?
That's the key to the correct draft. Is it you're welcome?
Why are you taking thanks just because that was a good two minutes we did there yeah draft talk content
Well, we haven't done it yet. We're just talking about how the mystery great Halloween candy draft one of my all-time favorite drafts
I want that draft. Is that where we did, we had to have a candy
and a broadcaster? Chris Whittingham lost.
No, I think that was just,
that was when Chris took Tootsie Rolls first overall.
Terrible pick. Which is such a bad pick.
Don't, don't.
You want the list of 13 centers
who are allegedly better than Bam,
according to somebody who's basketball analysis.
I'm in the mood for a laugh.
Somebody who's basketball analysis analysis you no longer respect.
Just saying.
Who is this person so none of us respect this person?
Yeah.
Nope, I cannot tell you because that is a betrayal.
Huh.
I don't know that I would say that I trust
all of Charles' basketball analysis.
Ha!
He says a lot of things. I was sad to see the other day though that I trust all of Charles' basketball analysis.
He says a lot of things.
I was sad to see the other day, though, that Charles Barkley's show with Gayle King was
canceled after six months, at least in part because he doesn't have time to devote to
being available all the time for that show.
Now, I do not agree with this list, but I tell you for examples to God's when it comes to Tyler hero and the Miami Heat's
Assessments of Tyler here
There've been a couple of things in the past that I have relayed about the Miami Heat's assessment of Tyler hero that have been
Controversial things one of them was saying that the Miami Heat thought that he should be
aspirationally someone who looked to be like Devin Booker. And more recently what
I said compounding off of that opinion is that Tyler Hero is as good as Tyrese
Maxey, which he has not been. But what you saw from Jaquez in that first game
where he was fearless,
we used to say that about Tyler Hero,
how fearless he was as a young person,
but I do think that one of the things
that's finally happening after five years, Dugats,
of Boston and Miami fighting at the top of that conference
is Miami's mid-round picks,
mid-first round picks, Bam and Tyler,
have hit where their ceilings are,
and Boston's higher picks, the better talents,
according to the draft, that haven't needed
sort of organizational culture, their higher picks
are now growing with compliments and building into a place where Tatum and Brown their physical
skill sets were drafted higher than Bam and
Tyler's and Jimmy not that that's always the measurement
But in this case when it came time to just taking skill sets
Boston has the guys that are taken at the top of the first round and Miami has the
guys that they're doing the most they can with from the middle of the first round.
Izzy, what is your assessment as someone who has covered basketball for a long time, what's
happened with Tyler Hero?
Because I did expect some jumps here that would allow him to be someone who as a number one could give you the 40
point game if you needed it.
You're not going to be as good as you were with Jimmy Butler, but you weren't going to
be that 11 point crud where he's taking a ton of bad shots.
You don't believe any of them are going in.
You need him to make something from 25 feet and he's starting a game again, two of the
last three, one for nine or two for 11.
Yeah, so my take on Tyler is he's ridiculously skilled.
I think where you had the comparison to Devin Booker,
the part that was sort of, you didn't really know
was going to happen was his size.
Would he fill out?
Devin Booker's got a barrel chest.
He's got some arms to him, right?
He can sort of fend off of contact.
Tyler Hero looks frail, he looks so thin out there
that when he takes a jumper, it looks like it's affected
by the wind somehow, I don't know, it's just really weird.
And so,
The ball or him?
The ball, both.
By a draft, would you say?
By a draft, actually, yeah, thank you, Chris.
The draft of his shorts when he's not wearing underwear,
make it a roller coaster for all of us.
You're welcome.
And so yeah, I just don't think the physicality,
and this season has been probably
the worst possible scenario for Tyler,
because at some point in the middle of the season,
the rest just swallowed their whistles.
And so when it was a point where everybody hated the game
because everything was a ticky-tack foul,
that's a great place for somebody like Tyler,
because he's ridiculously skilled.
But if you have to take on all this contact or if you get people bully you and just take
the ball away from you more often than you see most players that happen to, you just
you don't feel like you belong there for certain stretches.
And then all of a sudden you'll have him see a game where he scores 30 and has 10 rebounds
and six assists and you say okay Tyler Hero is a
great number two or three option on a team it is very difficult to be a lead
guy on a playoff team even if it's number eight it's ridiculously hard. That
does happen a lot Tim where he's just dribbling and they take the ball away
from him it's an unusual amount. I also think Stugance that people vastly
underestimate when watching the likes of James Harden and Kawhi Leonard,
how physically strong those human beings are.
Even among people who are physically strong,
James Harden and Kawhi Leonard, what their core strength is
is something that you probably couldn't fathom
if it was posting up on you.
Kawhi Leonard again getting just scorched over the weekend by Stephen A. Smith and
others because of his lack of availability, Stu Gotz. And I just would
be super frustrated. Anthony Davis has this reputation, played a ton of games
this year, but I would be super frustrated if I were Kawhi Leonard or Joellen Bede and I was trying to play all the time
and all sorts of things were getting
in the way of my availability and now the media,
because my body is betraying me,
is turning me into someone who's not available when,
given how little Kawhi Leonard talks,
I'm genuinely curious whether he's
deeply resentful that he feels like San Antonio did this to him, that San Antonio's doctors
and its care, given how quiet he is, given that he left there, given that he was a bit
of a problem at the end that Popovich was talking about as a problem, it makes me wonder
whether some of the things
that he's dealing with,
because I don't think it's an absence of care, Stugatz.
I don't think Kawhi Leonard.
Oh no, I think Kawhi cares,
and I think he has to be upset at the organization,
the Spurs organization, for doing,
at least in his mind, physically, what they did to him.
Yeah, that has to be frustrating.
But I also understand guys like Stephen A. Smith
coming out and saying, hey, it's the playoffs play.
Let's go.
I know, but Stugarts, he would if he could.
You're seeing that from Joel Embiid.
He wouldn't be playing right now
if it was the regular season.
He's only doing it because it's the postseason
and because he's had so many missed opportunities.
This is the frustrating part.
If you're Kawhi Leonard, if you're Joel Embiid,
if I'm Kawhi, I don't even look back at the San Antonio experience because I've had years of doctors being able to treat it.
You would think that I would be able to get on the other side of this,
but it just keeps happening at the wrong time and you say to yourself every year,
hey, if he's played 20 straight games,
maybe this is the year and then it happens again. And what can you do about that but be frustrated?
He in his last eight games has shot under 50%,
last eight playoff games, that is not him.
But he almost went out with,
what I thought was a career ending injury
that would have been the greatest I've ever seen,
which is throwing it off the backboard, dunking,
and then just being done for the year.
Like doing that to Mitchell Robinson, like just the pride and ego.
What a great male way to go out.
Just, I'm going to do something so very masculine and also incredibly dumb.
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