The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Who Put Pablo in Charge?

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Greg Cote is here on book release Tuesday for The Pride of a Lion. He's feeling proud, and we ain't lyin'. Dan has sent in his vote for the Heisman Trophy and has some major regrets over not voting fo...r Iowa's punter, we spend some time trying to promote Greg's old book FINS AT 50, and the feelings from yesterday's merch store discussion are still hanging over the show. Then, we discuss the lack of action and plethora of injuries in the NFL. Plus, Pablo Torre is here to defend himself against questions of collusion with David Samson, GTA6, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Do you want to see what the world is really like? Yes. Four things is deliciously funny and spectacularly entertaining. A woman planting her coast of freedom. I'm in love for it. It's non-stop bonkers brilliance. I love that.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Four things. It's a like theaters bonkers brilliance. I love that. Poor things. It's like theaters, December 15th. I've got a bit of a problem on my hands, and it's not just that it's a Greg Cody Tuesday. I thought that was the problem. Yes, Greg, the chemical ingredients of Greg Cody who comes in frazzled and late and interested in nothing but selling his new book. He has no other interest today. Usually, it's just his podcast as he physically right before we not even
Starting point is 00:00:49 what before we go on television as we're on the broadcast he is wiping the sleep from his eyes uh... something he could have done before we started but the problem that i have on Tuesdays to got is generally speaking as a show, we dominate the sports market in narcissism. Okay, like just, we've got so many people at microphones, so many narcissists at microphones, and in Lucy, Jeremy, and Roy, and Cody today, we have four people who haven't been able to give
Starting point is 00:01:23 any opinions at microphones about college football and today they have not been allowed to do so yet Unfortunately, we covered all this terrain yesterday and somehow Stephen A Smith took the best of all the takes we don't have to have any more takes The best take there is is that if everything were exactly the same and Deon Sanders was the coach at FSU, FSU would be in that playoff. That's why Steve and I is the goat. But we have other people who wish to speak on such matters and Lucy is the only one among
Starting point is 00:01:58 us who was at the actual game in bad seats at a terrible tailgate. She did speak. I mean, you must not listen to God Bless Football on Max, but she did speak yesterday about the selection. Oh, it's not. It's on DraftKings Network and YouTube. That's unfortunate. .com slash Adelaubatory.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Maybe one day. Maybe we were the Spotify. We were the, wow, you can't tell whether it's on Spotify or not because the number of big Jerry Witt, you should probably stop whether it's on Spotify or not, because the number of picks and very win, you should probably stop doing that. Oh, please. Lucey, although your thoughts on God Bless football are the place where people can get your thoughts first,
Starting point is 00:02:35 before we play what it is that you bring us from an SEC tailgate that was disappointing to you, yes? Yeah, it was the worst tailgate we've been to the whole year. And it's not like I don't think it has anything to do with Alabama fans or Georgia fans. I think it's just straight up where Sadie's been, Sadie, I'm in the way that Atlanta is set up. It was just not built for tailgating. It was not built for the SEC. It was kind of a bummer. I have not yet given my top four, although I did vote for the Heisman yesterday. Really? Who'd you vote for?
Starting point is 00:03:05 I was punner. Isn't it embargoed? You get in trouble if you were a real. Ah, gosh, Lucy, I wish you had been here yesterday because I would have put, I was punter. I would have given him a vote. I, there's only one joke on my ballot, and that's not the joke.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Well, there's only one joke at the top of my ballot, and that joke, it's not one I made, but I wish. wish I had. I wish I had put I was punter as one of my he's meant would have been great. He's been finally missed opportunity. We had a weekend. We had a weekend. I mean, every weekend's a weekend for him, right? The star and the miss him so much. I said this yesterday and we'll say it again. I cannot begin to tell you how difficult it is and easy it is to bet the team total under on Iowa under six and a half. Under Iowa will not score seven points. They will not get two field goals in a safety.
Starting point is 00:04:01 The best they're gonna do is two field goals. I can't tell you how hard that is to bet, and yet how often that bet cash is. I think there was some stat that came out that like if you had bet like $100 on the Iowa under since the Purdue game enrolled in over, you had like $23,000. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:04:19 They've done it 11 straight times. They've gone under 11 straight times on that. But Greg Cody is here and his book is bona fide bestseller, the pride of a lion with Ron McGill. And now we're in the wheelhouse of Greg Cody. Look at the smile that emerges over his face here because it's the only reason he's here. I mean bestseller. Give the man some credit. BS. That's seller. Do you have a back in my day to day? I actually don't know. I put that on the show top once I guess you didn't get that far down the holidays. Yeah the holidays.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I mean book release day right? Yeah it is. It's a national holiday. Is it a holiday is already I mean oh yeah December 5th. You didn't have Thanksgiving. Isn't that a holiday? There's a nice little wide lane in between the holidays where I feel like we can get one. Yeah, the holidays begin with Halloween. Yeah, they accelerate with Thanksgiving. Yeah. And then they go into overdrive once all the holiday lights
Starting point is 00:05:17 are up and everybody's buying the pride of a lion, you know, as a gift. I mean, it's where we're in a high gear now. So if the malls are decorated for the holiday season, there will never be a back in my deck. Well, you know, there's an exception to every rule, but right now we plan to come back with a vengeance in January,
Starting point is 00:05:35 with a brand new back in my deck. That's a month from the hell. Wow. But Martin Luther King deck. You're punting on entire months? That is bad form. Punting like the i will putter you know what's funny is to about that uh... just last week i mean it we've
Starting point is 00:05:49 had conversations him and i because the business of this isn't furiating and soul crushing for me but for a couple of years now gregg kody has been complaining quietly or or i shouldn't say complaining because he hasn't volunteered much of this but reminding me that he wasn't being paid. And most recently, I had to ask him, hey, did we get that all sorted out? And he's like, yeah, a lot more than I expected. And what's the reward? No back in my day. You wrote a book though.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, I mean, a man can only do so much. That we published for him. Oh, you did? You own mango? I didn't realize that. I'm not familiar with the business workings of metal arc. Congratulations for buying mango publishing. Thank you. I appreciate it. I don't often get congratulations for all the things that we own.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So you get a percentage of sales of Greg's book? We do, because we all own this company. Very nice. Well, thank you, Greg. What did I do? What you wrote the book? And, well, take true. You write in a book that goes directly into my pockets
Starting point is 00:06:54 over you writing it back in my day. There you go. See, that's the man. Mike gets it. He gets it. I too, Greg. Thank you. You get nothing extra from back in my day. Apparently you do get something extra from the pride of a lot. I was excited to learn that.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Okay, so let's see exactly where this book is ranked. I am happy to have Greg Cody here because why will have to wait for Jeremy and Lucy and Roy's new college football takes and I don't want any of Greg Cody's college football takes what I do want though Is Greg Cody's maximum Homerness around everything that's happening with the Miami Dolphin So I want to put up for big loss for the Jags last night. Yes. Yes. Now now even that's crazy All right I woke up this morning because I did not watch that game to find out that a four team teaser
Starting point is 00:07:47 that I had with Jacksonville Plus 2 that couldn't lose last night. Couldn't lose last night. Unless you took it. Jacksonville Plus 2 cannot lose unless football happens to the jugs at the top of the conference and not only happens to God's, but this part,
Starting point is 00:08:05 this part is fascinating and the injuries and the pain in that sport have been normalized. But now four of the top seven playoff teams in the AFC are going to play this week of Trevor Lawrence doesn't play with their backup quarterback. Like, this is what you head into the playoffs with, right? You can have the top seed and if two gets hurt between now and then you're gonna be bleeped the season is gonna go to hell so all you're doing here is trying to make sure that two stays healthy because now Trevor Lawrence is limping off the field and you know how long he's out for no no they'll just have a committee put Justin Herbert in
Starting point is 00:08:37 uh... uh... uh... uh... i'm with the idea of just putting a committee in charge of more things and having sports be more about committees that are less. Here's the thing about committees. They don't know shit either. If you would have asked the committee who wins Monday night football last night, they're all saying Jacksonville. That's what's the beauty of all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:56 No one had Cardell Jones lifting a national championship. You're right. Chris and I were discussing yesterday, we'd like a committee to determine who wins the NFC South. Not a joke. Put it on the poll, please, at Lebitar Show. Should we have a committee to decide who wins the NFC South and furthermore, a second question, should that committee be allowed to pick a team from another division to win the NFC South?
Starting point is 00:09:23 The answer is nobody. Nobody should win from the NFC South. There's two divisions in football that are so bad, they should not have a playoff team. They should restructure the entire division format and reward teams with better records. And I'm not saying, as a wild example, if you go 13 and no in college football, it automatically means
Starting point is 00:09:45 you should be in the CFP. But in the NFL, you can't have a 500 team in the playoffs when you're leaving out teams with much better records. I just looked at the standings. It could not believe that the Atlanta Falcons are in first place. The Atlanta Falcons are going to be a playoff team. What a disaster. What's the second division, Dad? NFC South in which one? I believe the AFC, uh, so I don't have a
Starting point is 00:10:12 tsunami. I was the Jacks. The Jacks are ready for the culture. Seven to five. They have they might have the techs with TJ. Right. They've got. I feel like you got caught. You got caught up in the air there with two teams. AFC South's been really bad for a long time. You can make the argument the AFC East is worse than the AFC South. Oh, it is. The dolphin would like a word. Just saying. Greg, that's pretty terrible though.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It's our football expert though that you don't remember the name of the division. Yeah. You don't know who's in it that you don't remember what you're talking about. Ascent is okay. I made a mistake. I'm a human, particularly on book release day. It's a national holiday for me. Big day. It only happens once a lifetime. Dan, I'm a human, particularly on book release day. It's a national holiday for me. It only happens once a lifetime, Dan. I'm a little excited. Well, fins and 50.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah. So it's happened twice. Don't get me started on that. It's your second book. But the first one he knows that's going to sell. But what are you rolling your eyes? Fins and 50. You are. We are thrilled to have you today because you are the Definitive historian and chronicler of local Miami dolphins lore yes you and Dave Hyde or our Elbowing Alan Pappar and who's the other guy your elbow and Trying to get out of the way Tom Curtis There are like four of you there are green
Starting point is 00:11:24 To be dolphin historian Curtis, like, there are like four of you that are helping green. To be dolphin historian, you're the only one who is written Finns at 50 and you're rolling your eyes at your other book. Well, Finns at 50, I don't think metal art, there was no metal art then. I don't think Dan Levertart owned a publishing company at that time because the book was published by Miami Herald publishing who did no promotion for the book. Yes, and
Starting point is 00:11:47 I'm calling up my own newspaper. Fins at 50 came out and just sat there because the Miami Herald did not get behind that book and did not promote it in the lease. Calling them out on release day is a choice. Well, but we're seeing the opposite now now, right this book is being well promoted by this show By mango by by everyone involved. I wish Finns at 50 had had been Don Lebertard Greg Cody of the Miami Herald is writing an article and I'm reading in it Moss Miami sold out my ami artist Miami culture and I'm reading Moss Miami's sold out And I'm reading about digital podcast network and I'm reading about us and I'm reading Moss, I'm a soul doubt, and I'm reading about digital podcast network, and I'm reading about us,
Starting point is 00:12:26 and I'm like, this is our dreams coming true. Still gots. A thousand people come out, and we see the shipping container on their own stage, and they're like rock stars. You and me, both had tears in our eyes. We're like mom and dad of sentiment, and it's hard to get you to sentiment, man. That was a very emotional moment for us.
Starting point is 00:12:43 To see those guys, I'm telling you guys you were on stage Did and I were both crying are you guys aware of this? Crying yeah, like crocodile tears. We believe crocodile tears are fake I thought they meant big this is the down Limita show with this to got Is there any profit that can be gathered for the shipping container in us right now, resuscitating Fins at 50 with whatever sales are after today? Congratulations are in order because according to Barnes & Noble, your book is the number one best seller in biology of Katz Lions and Tigers. Haha, that a boy.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I didn't know there were so many obscure categories. I've seen it number one in four or five different categories, but they're all sub-categories. Don't apologize, they're making things. Number one is number one. Okay, yeah, yeah. But does profits from... It's not number one if they're 40 number one, though, number one is not number one if they're 40. Your though number one is not number one if they're 40 your book is available a target
Starting point is 00:13:47 The extra profits that we're gonna get from that Fins at 50 that's gonna go right back up or are we gonna get those trickle down sort of like the merch store? I'm glad you asked actually because I've got more merch store complaints. Yeah, and they're directed toward Pablo Torrey Oh, what happened? What happened? I mean, he's next to Samson in New York, and so there's an avalanche of Pablo Torrey merch on our site. There was more merch for Pablo Torrey than there was for our people.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Like, it was weird, and it's just because he's got a bunch of an army of assassins up there just marching around, finding out how to you know make maximum money they're figuring stuff out do we have someone looking over David doing all this no i thought closed for six months because i didn't have anyone like David to look over it
Starting point is 00:14:38 it's an interesting choice to put David Samson in charge of anything business and expect it to be ethical i understand but then like he trusts David Samson. David Samson loves Dan, I think. The business. It's not that I trust David Samson. He does love me and loaves as I am to admit it. I also love him.
Starting point is 00:14:57 However, we need help with business because to got many of the problems that you and I have had over the last two years come specifically because you and I have had over the last two years come specifically because you and I can't be in charge of the money other people are in charge of the money and when other people are in charge of the money stu gots gets mad that he's not in charge of the money. I like to have the money in my own pocket. You deserve to. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:15:18 How do you think David did with his first crack at it? I genuinely believe that David loves you. By the way, Dan, I just think he loves money more. And Pablo. Yeah, well, this was your first experience with David doing something like this. How did it go for you? I would say generally, when corporate, any corporate gets
Starting point is 00:15:36 involved, the soul of that thing dies. And it doesn't matter whether it's corporate at Apple or ESPN or here, but some corporate is required because you cannot have creative people running anything because look at what happened to United artists. You know, you unite the artists and they go bankrupt because you need people who can handle money
Starting point is 00:15:58 and know how to manage money so that the creatives aren't fighting over all the money. So it went terribly. Okay. Nothing personal. Is the name of David Samson's podcast? There's still, are you promoting it? Because all week we will have
Starting point is 00:16:15 with a discount code on our merch site. If you use Samson sucks, I've been doing this a while. So, God, so you can trust me to lead the places. Samson sucks 20. is the code that you use if you want a 20% discount on everything that's at the store, but I want the Homer opinion of Greg Cody on what is happening right now with the Miami Dolphins, with the understanding again, because this part is, it really has been normalized. I'm watching the game, my wife and I have grown
Starting point is 00:16:51 to hate Sundays because of how shitty I feel at the end of Sundays because I can't go be with my wife because I have to be worried about whether the Titans punter had to kick's block. Me and Abby love Sundays. Well, I love Sundays. You're not doing Sundays, right? I mean you'll get there, Dan.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Thank you, but you are watching football and smoking marijuana all Sunday. I would like to be with you've said it marijuana. I mean a meeting marijuana You've said you use a bomb on Sundays like I'm just using your words. I don't know what you're smoking habits It starts with a gummy the bomb really just brings your words. I don't know what you're smoking habits are. It starts with a gummy, the bomb really just brings it home. That's all. Yeah, it does. People still use bombs, huh?
Starting point is 00:17:30 So that's what he's doing on Sunday. But so I want you to imagine this, right? Because my wife stays away from the town. I really don't want to be at a point in my life where I have to care about these things this way, because we've been doing this a long time. And I don't want to care about whether things this way because, you know, we've been doing this a long time. And I don't want to care about whether that was a catch for the Arizona Cardinals tight end or not.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And the announcers are telling me, the three of them are telling me it is a catch and then they rule on the field. It's not a catch and that's what I'm watching. As what's being normalized is stugats and I don't know if this weekend was worse than most or whether I just noticed it more the phrase I heard more than any other during the weekend was blue medical tent Like that's what I heard again and again and again and so my wife like imagine this through the eyes through the prism of somebody Who doesn't have any understanding of what's happening where every other word is something about a concussion or someone's limping off the field or stuff, and she's looking at me and she's like, does everybody
Starting point is 00:18:27 watch it this way? Where like it's five or six hours in a row and I'm like, no, when they're in London, it's 12 hours in a row, the way that people watch this and she's asking, what else is like that? And I'm like, nothing, nothing in the world, nothing in the world is like that where people sit in front of their television all day and it's a religious experience and the 96 of the top 100 shows are football shows, but this was the part that really blew her mind. Okay, yes, soccer fair enough football of another kind. This is the part that really blew her mind. I'm like, do you understand that in the three hours that I'm watching of this window, there's only in each game about 10 to 11 minutes of actual action.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Everything else is standing around. And she looks at me sideways. Like what? And I'm like, yeah, most of the game, but two hours and 50 minutes of the game are not plays being run. Like it's not people actually moving. Right. That's why Red Zone was invented essentially.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Well, that's why it's crack and that's why hockey and basketball are about to follow here. Like hockey and basketball are gonna try and like what they have to do to get young people in the stimulus age is you have to just swamp them with action. It can't be one game anymore. Like all of this must change. In fact, all of these sports have been way behind it. Like baseball just figured some of it out and they're like, okay, if we speed all of this up,
Starting point is 00:19:51 but all of them are gonna have to hit us with more and more action in order to do. That's how football became King's sport because the action is so furious everywhere. And- The 11 minutes of it. The 11 minutes of it, that's correct. But Andrew, putting it when a lot of people aren't working and you're making the
Starting point is 00:20:08 game so that it's just Saturday and Sunday and people have time to not sit in their unhappiness at work or whatever it is, the problems with their spouse and they can just watch the television for nine hours and escape into that. I've had to spend so much time on social media for my job that I've been trying recently to disconnect from social media a bit when I'm not getting paid to be there. And I tried to watch a Thursday night football game a few weeks ago without Twitter and was so bored. There's so much time between plays.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I cannot watch a game that doesn't have some sort of other something going on, which is why Red Zone is kind of the only way to watch NFL Sundays. What's wrong with you guys? Just enjoy a playoff. Take a deep breath. Yeah. Just close your eyes for a minute. Make it in a minute. I wish I could. I mean, was it C-Hawks Cowboys? Because that game was very exciting. Not that one. All right. I was at K-Soo's Heat that night. The one before that. One was in case you'd see it that night. The one before that. One game is hard now. I think we've all changed our habits enough that people are a bit drunk on stimulus.
Starting point is 00:21:13 What happened to football, the game itself, just being enough, just being enough to entertain you, that you need to be on social media, gauging everyone's reaction to every single thing that's happening during said game. Yes. Just sit down like Chris said and watch the game. Uh, Stugots, you are coming from a different time as I am on all of this stuff. So Leslie Ann Wade has put on Twitter. I don't expect many to read this,
Starting point is 00:21:37 but if you are forward thinking in the sports media or PR business, it is thought provoking. How Gen Z is killing sports media as we know it. And Dan Chonise, the old time Boston Globe sports writer who longs for the same time that you do, Stugat, the time when he was in charge and he was the media, says it's over. It's, Dan Chonise says it's over, has been for a while, just grateful we got to do it
Starting point is 00:22:03 when there were actual smart thoughtful fans slash readers and I This is old people telling young people you're not smart because you're changing everything and this is what happens to the old person Someone climbs into his mentions with good ridden stand maybe on your way out the door You can drive down to New York and pick up that other curmudgeon fill mushnik at the post and you can sit in rocking chairs and complain about how much better Everything used to be 30 years ago back when you mattered. I can understand the lament if I felt full confidence that the generation that has all the management positions and it's making all the decisions to appeal to these consumers had exhausted every effort to appeal to them and to push creative limits.
Starting point is 00:22:43 But to just blame the consumer and disassociate yourself with responsibility when it happened on your watch, I mean, aren't these the legacy media members that are sometimes writing think pieces to fire coaches because something bad happened on their watch? To just put it on the consumers is a bit lazy. There's all sorts of ways to make sports entertaining after the game has happened too. I think the issue is that you don't have as many Gen Z people watching these games in live moments like watching the full game or watching anything like that. But if you go on TikTok and you see some of the creators who are creating storylines after the fact who are going through and breaking down something that's happened, whether it's
Starting point is 00:23:23 a couple of plays from a game or the narrative surrounding a player like Tyree's Halliburton right now, having the moment that he's having, you'll see all sorts of really cool ways of storytelling afterward that they are interacting with. The thing is that the people in charge haven't figured out how to make money off of that yet. Dan, that's unfair. I would like to call out the person who sent that to Dan Shawna. See, he'll always be relevant.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I mean, that guy could fire up an 85 Celtic book whenever he wants with a different angle and it's a bestseller. Guaranteed. He just did it. He just did it. Like three months ago. And if he wants to do it again, he will. And it will sell out.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I have to be awed by the amount of media, sports media things. The Boston area, his birth, because the Boston area cares about sports in an unreasonable way. And I remember 15 years ago talking to you and saying, do you realize that our show would never work in Boston? They care too much about their sports in a way that's unreasonable, that has identity in it.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And if we're sitting around talking about stupidities like the art basil traffic that's gonna make me crazy over the next few weeks there's no time for that in in Boston where they want to talk about you know somebody's bunch but let's get to the reason that we've got the most magical historian and Homer here and let's get all his excited thoughts on the Miami Dolphins. Well I wrote this is inu alun improved and lebatar show with the stugas gamble on by draftkins. Don lebatard many of you by the way are writing in and you're saying Dan quit being so mean
Starting point is 00:25:01 to cohosts that you always deem incompetent. That's the formula, man. Me being mean to the co-host is what allows two gods to take a very wealthy vacation right now. Two gods. It's a winning position for everyone, but me. Have you guys not figured this out yet? That's the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It's me being rotten straight, man. As everyone else gets to be incompetent and I yell at them for being incompetent. And here's's the miracle of it and the magic elixir bad which is the only thing Greg Cody can be becomes good and lovable and it's because standing next to obnoxious strident me makes everyone look that way and the brush with death helped yeah that was planned by me the whole thing was contrived this This is the Don Lebertar Show with this two cats. I don't know what to do about Pablo Torre. He is rising up the charts. It is going to his head.
Starting point is 00:25:52 He is getting all the things that he wants from creativity and following his curiosities. I mean, who put Pablo in charge? Seriously, who did that? I want to see him. Well, he's not in charge. I don't know why you're saying he's in charge. He's just taking charge. He's just in charge. I don't know why you're saying he's in charge. He's just taking
Starting point is 00:26:05 is he's just taking charge. Yeah, what's refreshing? He is not in charge of anything and no one put Pablo in charge of anything other than Pablo Tore finds out which he's been in charge of and been doing an amazing job on. But before we get to the greed and contamination that is his really ruining our merch store. Oh, okay, got it. Yeah, we're going to get to greed and contamination and how me being good is actually bad, got it. Proceed, yeah. Yes, we'll get to that in just a moment, but before we do that, I want to tell Angel and whoever can hear the sound of my voice to please create some stew bongs to sell. Please, on the merch site, just figure out how to do that,
Starting point is 00:26:54 please. Now, before we get to some subject matter with you, though, Pablo, can you please explain to me why our merch site is contaminated with things for you and your calves and just all about you. So I just want to explain how it is in the New York studio. You know, your your neighbor, your sibling up in downtown Manhattan. It's kind of like me and David Samson are kind of like two kids in a trench coat trying to be an adult combined because there is as Michael alluded to a tremendous power vacuum.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And so when David Samson is like, Hey, I'm in charge of the merch store now. Fight through. He gives I am full of flamm dude. I went to a holiday party on Friday and I felt like Greg Cody for three days. Thank you. It's just serious. You guys get here there. I was hoping that would sound like a zoom effect,
Starting point is 00:27:46 but no, that just flam. It's just a fine. You said thank you through flam. I did inadvertently. You can't plan that. But thank you, Bob Lo. For whatever you said, I took it as a compliment. It's always, I'm really calling.
Starting point is 00:28:00 That is nice. That was my name. The vibes are always complimentary. You know if the words are the opposite. Thank you. So for me, what I try to do is, when I get an assignment that's like, hey, we have a merch store now,
Starting point is 00:28:12 can you guys create designs? I take that as a mandate from a real media company because I'm trying to form a smaller, real media company inside of the metal arc media, real larger media company. And so I have my guy Patrick Kim, who was the creative director on Deezus and Merrow, make dozens of designs,
Starting point is 00:28:32 because I thought that's good. And now I realize that everyone is mad because there's just, we did too much homework, I guess, is what I've discovered about working at this company. Being a real media company is bad. Is my takeaway so far based on this merch store experience. Yeah, and this is what happens when money contaminates all things that are meant to be artful and soulful.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You know, I'm with Pablo on this one. We typically have a move where we're unorganized and we're messy and it's nowhere near as endearing as you think it is especially when you're in your 50s. Yeah, but that's the company we're stuck with and that's what we are. That's what we have on for it. I can't do anything about the We're in our 50s except I'll do it in six years when I'm in my 60s.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Like I don't know, like I don't know what to do for you there. Like usually a good default as a gag but but it's we're living the gimmick here. I like we're doing this. It's our sixties. We're we're living the game out of here. No, I have the over on that. I have the over on that. I have I have you guys doing this in your eighties.
Starting point is 00:29:36 But it's funny. You should say that because he says we're living the gimmick and the way things are going. Don't worry. I won't get to my sixties. We won't have to sweat it at all, it'll be fine. Please live gimmick, please live, I have a three year old. Can you please tell me, okay, before we get to some of the subject matter that I want to get to with you, Grand Theft Auto is about to be, if it's not already, the biggest video
Starting point is 00:30:02 game of all time. Like, the one that's just released with the trailer that is, it's not already the biggest video game of all time like it the one that's just released with the trailer that is it's not a release in 2025 bigger the frogger huh yes it's going to be the biggest though it's on track based on the history of this game to be the biggest thing in video games ever all right and the the one that has been distributed the trailer that was released excuse me because the game was not released. And video games, when we talk about some of this stuff,
Starting point is 00:30:28 Greg, about people are now addicted to not just their phones, but to stimuli, and one football game is not enough. The thing that I thought of when my wife asked me, what else is like this, where people sit in front of their television for seven straight hours? The answer is video games. Like gaming. Gaming is the other thing that's like football.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And for Pablo to say this is gonna be the biggest one ever and the trailer was in Miami and frankly, was so good that I thought it was Miami. Like I wasn't sure in certain parts of it if it was cartoonish or actually just the way our city is. Well, Pablo can explain it, but they've spent the reason why this game has been rumored to be released, I think a couple of years ago
Starting point is 00:31:10 was the initial release date, but keep pushing it back. They've mapped the entire city of Miami. Like they've taken a call around town and they've mapped the entire place. I have a friend that is associated with Space Nightclub, Space is in the trailer, every nook and cranny of space is in this game.
Starting point is 00:31:28 There is the Clevelander or the equivalent in video game Grand Theft Auto World, if you're watching on the Jack Kings Network or on YouTube. The Clevelander is there. That's a fun. What are you doing? That's $10. $10 and fines.
Starting point is 00:31:42 What are you doing? $20. $50 and there it is. There it is. But to the artificial imagery that is uncanny valley-ish, which is to say that it's so realistic that it becomes unrealistic, there's the Clevelander. At some point if you're watching this broadcast,
Starting point is 00:32:01 on the draftings now regarding YouTube, I stuck a finger in the air. When was torquing a top of car. Like this has gone viral because the butt cheeks are actually vibrating in a way that physics wise seems incredibly realistic. So Dan, you are not alone. Despite the fact that Dan Levitard, his video game expertise extends as far as I believe miss Pac-Man clips like this are making everybody of all ages feel the way that Dan feels at age six years shy of 60.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Miss Pac-Man, that's a video game. That's a video game. I got that in my game room, it's on the Fritz right now. Gotta get somebody to come fix it because I'm missing it, man. Did you just say there you go with the same vigor as Miss Pac-Man that you did to twerking?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Because I think you said there you go twice. It was perfect. He said there you go right after twerking was on the screen but to miss Pac-Man. So it just seemed like he was saying it to the twerking. No, I did not. I did not do that. I approve of twerking. I did not compliment the reference. But Miss Pac-Man has got you excited. Yeah, I did. A terrible ally for me to have in my addictions to miss pack man uh... but that this this video game uh... it i can't believe how much it looks like my amie i'm not you're talking about the physics of the jiggling in the twerking and i'm looking at it i'm like man this is our city in almost every way they've gotten every detail right
Starting point is 00:33:24 into all of how astonine and absurd it is and it's all here in town this month like art basil is here so that entire like you can get it you can get grant theft auto six before twenty twenty five but just going outside anywhere in my amy this month and we get uh, can angel make Greg Cody a grand theft auto character? Um, I mean, I feel like the idea that Greg Cody perhaps wearing a shirt, this is another merch star idea, by the way, a shirt that says, quote, I approve of twerking. Um, as he hands out a mission to you, as you have to
Starting point is 00:33:59 go, I don't know, uh, kill several, uh, people in this video game, um, is the natural logical conclusion of these worlds colliding? All right, I just wanna make this official because I am tired of the way that Pablo is trying to horn in on everybody's money at the merch store. So right now. I have ideas. Right now.
Starting point is 00:34:18 That's a good idea, Pablo. Here's a good idea, okay. Because it's for you. Yeah, it's out in the Greg Cody Show merch store right now. We put it out there in the last 10 seconds. I'll put it in my merch store. I don't know. Publicly find out can house also a subsidiary of Greg Cody
Starting point is 00:34:29 merch. Happy to do that. We got lots of ideas. We got a whole art direction philosophy. We got a team of people who can make this stuff for you, Greg. Great. Excellent. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:34:41 This last time I was this bored by something is when you guys couldn't stop talking about all your cameos because whenever there's money around and you guys can make some money Everyone gets to my try and and tries to make yet trying up because you stop doing No George Santos is pumping all sorts of new money into it Really? We have to do a show with him. We have to we have to get him to do a podcast. No, no, it would be our best It would be our best rated podcast George Santos is the most entertaining man in America. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Let's sign him up. Let's get the people at mango publishing and whatever they're doing up there in New York when they're not just fan-seeing Pablo's whims. Let's get all these people together to do a Santos podcast. But I will right now because it's the holidays this week, this week, lebitardaf.com. Lebitardaf.com. lebertard AF dot com okay lebertard AF dot com if you use the code Pablo asshole 20
Starting point is 00:35:31 All prices will be increased by 20 percent Wait, they will be increased not a discount. They will be in all prices will be increased by 20 percent Because I don't want Pablo to have success here because he's had enough success and all of it is going to his head and it's annoying. Now on Pablo Tories finds out what you do with these football intelligence tests. Like did you take one of these football intelligent tests? Yeah, if you are looking for an episode in which my head is deflated, today's episode is not for you because you may understand that there is this thing
Starting point is 00:36:05 that replaced the Wonderlick. And the Wonderlick of course was the previous gold standard, quote unquote, for IQ testing in the NFL. That was stopped as a mandatory part of the combine last year. What replaced it is this thing called the S2 test. And as we marveled at it, like how Brock Purti is now an MVP candidate, who anywhere saw this coming? Well Brock Purti aced this thing called the S2 test,
Starting point is 00:36:27 the new IQ test that replaced the Wonder lick. Relatedly, Bryce Young aced this test, and CJ Stroud bombed it. And so it's been highly controversial, like the Holy Grail in sports really, is how do we know who's a good quarterback? All scouts are trying to figure out who is good at processing making decisions.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And so the only way that I determined would be fair would be for me to take these tests myself and figure out, is there anything to this or is this all bullshit designed to sell contracts to teams? So that's today's episode. The Wonder Lake Test always seemed ridiculous to me and I don't remember who the player was, but I do remember the story most famous for me around the Wonder Lake test is true or false and I like tall women was the question and whoever with a player was just crossed out the T and tall instead of answering the question because they don't take some of this stuff seriously.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I should say that relatedly as the controversy around these tests build like Dan Marino Got a 16 out of 50 on the wonderlick. Right. So there are lots of guys who've done well Alex Smith is the guest on today's show He's a super smart guy got a 40 out of 50 Dan Marino got a 16 So I don't know if he's the guy who likes women with the tall crossed out, but he might fit the profile Marino fell my test as well So I don't know if he's the guy who likes women with the tall crossed out, but he might fit the profile. They stand at that method. Marino failed my test as well. I do the ring test where I check your hand and see how many rings are on it. I mean, it's the best way to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:52 It is the best way to do it. If I saw a question that was, I like tall women, I would write in there, that's not a question. Dear God. Dear God.

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