The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: Never Gonna Lose Me
Episode Date: September 5, 2023The crew takes a trip through some of the other hot button topics from around college football over the weekend, and no matter how much Dan is concerned about the future of the sport, we know one pers...on it will never lose. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I would like metal-arc media to be sending Lucy every weekend all over the country to gather
content that no one else is getting of slurring ed orgeron zealots sexually harassing
Taylor he told me the story he said that the woman in the parking lot was very aggressive
grabbed a lot of firm ass and said that she liked them young baby and Taylor does have
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uh... but there are two things here that i didn't get to get to with lucy
regarding college football so we're clear though lucy is going to alibaba
text is this week what are we doing
uh... that would be very cool i'd also like to go to elastica iowa i was state
well i want wants to go to that game what
uh... what is that called i'm sorry because you are the now nation's pre-eminent Iowa fan
girl for no one is supporting college football.
And I was the way that you are.
And I saw the stat, this stunned me that Iowa had its first opening
drive of the season touchdown pass since 1991.
Dude, our office is so good, we're breaking records.
We're breaking records.
30 years, they have not gone, just marched down the field with a drive and thrown a touchdown
pass.
Oh, that's possible.
I was.
It doesn't seem possible, but I didn't enjoy that story as much as I enjoyed.
God, I don't know why more people weren't making fun of this.
Jim Harboss Michigan players holding up four fingers to honor the coach who
self-imposed the four game band that the NTA rejected and then made it three
games. And so he's sitting out and they're holding up four fingers.
Usually that's for the fourth quarter.
In this case, they've made a martyr out of Jim Harbaugh in a lawless college football.
He can't even follow the rules.
He's self-imposed a band because we're all buying players.
Now we're all trying to compete for, I mean, it's really stupid what we've done
with college football.
Is it not like just money over the table, seeing all the rules change in front of our eyes has made some of what we're's really stupid what we've done with college football. Is it not like just money over the table,
seeing all the rules change in front of our eyes has made some of what we're watching really stupid.
No, that was incredibly dumb.
It was a self-imposed ban.
They showed up wearing free harbosh shirt,
did the four finger gesture.
Oh, that's goosebumps.
I'm seeing the clip of her right here.
That's goosebumps.
Stand and buy your coach.
Yep.
His daughter is at the game filming TikToks like,
my dad's not here.
I can do whatever I want and live my life.
Like, it was just, it was one of those things where you're like,
are they aware that Michigan and Harbog agreed to this?
This was their decision.
And by the way, you're, you're playing East Carolina.
Like, let's take it down a notch.
It was self-imposed.
That's so gross.
To God's, what I love about what's happening in college football is because all of the rules
are crumbling while no one had prepared for the idea of, well, holy shit, if you give the
players all the freedom, they're going to be transferring like crazy. They're going to
have power all of a sudden. Brian Kelly's not going to be able to lord over players
the same way. All the sudden, Stanford has an offense.
I mean, they do, Dan, that's the one cool thing about it is,
if you had three quarterbacks on your team,
and they were sitting behind Vinny Testiverty at the University of Miami,
they're never going to sniff the field,
they might be good enough to play elsewhere,
they're not good enough to play at the University of Miami at that time.
Those kids now can transfer, They can go to another school.
And if that coach develops them into the quarterback, they were supposed to be at my Emmy,
then all of a sudden you have a pretty good team. What's going to be parody?
But what we're doing is mercenary minor league football. And we're draping it in. Well,
college sports have to be run by this $10 million a year.
Nick Sabin, not exactly not anymore.
The whole construct of what used to be college football for your grandfather, for your father,
for your mother, for your grandmother, it's a different thing now.
And I do wonder is it gets more brazenly commercial where it's like, oh, conferences
don't matter.
Well, last year of Oklahoma, Texas, really, oh, Pac-12 doesn't exist anymore.
If you just make it minor league football and say, my team can get Lincoln Riley and he
brings a quarterback, I wonder over time whether football can withstand the barrage of that
commercialization where people, man, these boosters aren't going to like Deon Sanders
over running the sport with his set of rules.
That's not what they got into the business of the orange jacket wearing for the Orange
Bull Committee to be athletic directors of somebody coming in and being at Texas State
is going to take over Baylor where they allowed covered up murders.
Like Baylor was there.
I mean, think about what's that.
Baylor was a three touchdown favorite.
Oh, you can't beat Texas State.
Why? What the hell's Texas State?
It's 45 transfers who really want to play football
and might not be able to get into Alabama.
But I think that's kind of the cool part in the sense
where like now Texas State can be competitive.
It's just how you operate your team.
Well, like this makes me sad as an Iowa fan
knowing that Kirk Ferenc will never change anything ever.
But for other teams, that's gonna be awesome.
Like we had Wyoming be Texas Tech this weekend.
There are chances, even though it feels like
it's getting further and further,
it's still giving some sort of an upside
to the underdog a little bit.
I had Texas Tech minus 13.
I didn't love that one.
That was bad pick.
They're still Alabama, Dan.
They are for now. For Dan. They are for now.
For now.
They are for now, but I still think,
and so got you, can be entrenched in that position,
but last year at the end,
Alabama wasn't playing in the games,
and you just saw Clemson fall up the map really quickly,
because it's hard to stay up there,
especially as the rules keep changing on these guys.
And you're gonna do,
Duke is better. Duke is better.
Duke is better.
They are.
But Clemson, as you knew them,
Davos is going to look really silly,
running 100 miles an hour down that hill for a five and 16.
He's one of the fall one time.
Oh, that would be awesome.
It's not.
It's not.
I know.
Davos, the perfect example of not adjusting
to the changing landscape of college football.
He doesn't want players to get paid.
He refuses to use the transfer portal head Clemson gone in the transfer portal, gotten
some receivers.
They would be Duke last night.
He's just not using it.
No, he's like very anti the only time he's ever used the transfer portal was to get a
player who had transferred from Clemson back to Clemson.
But kids are leaving Clemson.
He's just not getting any kids back.
Like kids are transferring on a cliff.
I just want to state clearly for the record
because you've heard me talk about this.
I keep wondering when the money is going to affect
pure tanical interest.
The people who believe in the marching band
and the tailgate, and it's not about
my 50 guys I got over here
that I paid with boosters better than your 50 guys.
Like it's going to be the illusion of college football.
All the rules are collapsing in front of us in a way that I find endlessly delightful.
It's just total energy.
What is happening right now to college football where you have those upset by three touchdown
underdogs?
Because people doing stugots the line setting have no idea the
change that comes this way like what do you mean Texas state how they had third most
transfers as dabo says no transfers Texas state beats baler routes baler because they have
three times as many transfers as any other school of course you've got to use that it's suicide
if you don't nowadays but when clampson goes old school the old school is favoring the old rules and
that's what you see clampson in front of you i wonder though the enduring
sustaining power of those things ten years from now if you've got ten a c
if you've got an exciting offense and you're one of the ones winning
you'll love it but how about the rest of the country
that just wants minor
league football when it just becomes I'm here for the storyline of Deon Sanders every week
if you want to give it to me. But the way that you're talking about the traditions and
stuff like that. That's it. I'm talking about college football. As you know, it is no longer
the thing you think you knew. This is the beginning of the mercenaries coming in and trying to buy their way into a money game where people are hugely competitive, where Tennessee
gets in trouble because it's bags of Chick-fil-A cash. Like, you've got outsourced
all your money to boosters and donors. Of course, what's going to get
contaminated here is the kids because you're throwing them in the middle of the
deep end of capitalism. But you're doing it with no transfer rules that can control them.
They have the power now and they can bleep your school and the parents can become an infestation.
You can get a recruiting fight over dollars because the whole thing now has lost all its mask.
All it is now is open greedy commerce, who can get on television, look at all these TV dollars,
holy shit, Deon Sanders is in the game now.
After one game, he's in the game
beating last year's national championship participant.
Are you shitting me in a game
when they didn't have money as a program, Stugat,
to be able to afford him
and they raised $28 million out of an oil well
because Deon has just proven to be underpaid
because he's already paid for himself.
But I view it, like I understand what you're saying, how long before we get tired of this
or the old school fans get tired of this, but I view this as a great thing for the sport
where you have Colorado coming of nowhere and they steal the entire weekend, the entire
sports weekend coming out of nowhere and they steal the entire weekend, the entire sports weekend coming out of nowhere.
And then as far as the kids are concerned, the kids finally have an opportunity. Hey, I can't play
here. I can play there. And if I play well enough there at Texas State, I might find myself in
the NFL. That's opportunity for a lot more kids than they're used to.
Dan, you mentioned bands. You see what Alabama did to Texas's bands? I did not.
Gamesmanship. Lucy, did you see?
Yeah, I saw.
So basically, last year when Alabama played at Texas, Alabama didn't send their band because
Texas was like, we're only going to put you in the upper rafters.
So Alabama put Texas's band in the upper rafters.
Oh, wow.
King Sport.
Oh.
Cullen Fable is the best.
You're never going to lose me.
or comfortable is the best. You're never going to lose me.
You are not made uncomfortable by all of these changes.
Even though you have said you hurt for the people who
travel with teams because that's a uniquely,
that's such a distinct community of people who put on their
garb and go live a weekend life away from where they live
because traveling with the football team
is like many vacations that are a lifestyle choice.
Conference realignment is what's really getting me
just because TV and money is completely controlling.
All these student athletes lives like not just football players.
When it comes to the transfer portal and NIL,
I am all for it.
One NIL was happening way before it was legal.
We just couldn't see it.
Now it's out in the open.
And the transfer portal, my theory is if a coach can leave,
a player should be able to leave.
But Cal going to Stanford is one thing.
A lot more costly when Cal is going to Raleigh
to play North Carolina state.
I absolutely hate that.
Like that's my least favorite part.
I really think that football should separate itself
from the other like non-revenue sports
so that there's still some geography there
so parents can go see their kids
so that you're not traveling across the country on a school night
but like that is where money has come in and just completely I don't say ruin college athletics but worked it.
Greg Cody toward this end of the show now as you have aged I've noticed that you drift off into oblivion.
Am I in oblivion right now you just what you were just sitting there listening to the show as a as a
casual observer just as a passenger that had no interest in talking nor if
you'd been asked to talk would you have been able to talk overnaughting to
i could tell he didn't want to get in by how much he was just like this is
over now you have thirty seconds left on the clock it's not to trick you it's
just because i missed you this last segment. Nobody knew you were here. Right. Well, you were doing a fair amount of talking. You were on a soapbox. I mean, there wasn't a lot of room there for me to get in. Plus I'm in rage that Pablo Tori gets that much time to pimp his. That uh... three three days ago and okay whatever and and now the great
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