The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Baby On Board

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

Lucy's spirit has been broken by Miami traffic, and the crew is here to give her some advice moving forward. Plus, are we overreacting to Colorado's first win or is Deion Sanders on the verge of compl...etely changing the game in college football? Mike Ryan capitulates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.
Starting point is 00:00:34 That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. The places that do empirical measurements on traffic have now said that South Florida is so overcrowded and so ill-equipped for the number of people here in America's most expensive housing market
Starting point is 00:00:57 that we now have some of the world's worst traffic in this city. And Lucy's been here about six minutes. And Lucy says that already, and this happened fast, Jessica, this did not happen this fast to you. Lucy says she's already been broken by the driving in this city. I bought a baby on board sticker to put on my car in hopes that people drive better around me. That's the best idea ever. I'm 25 and basically a baby anyways, but I'm not a good driver and I really need other people to be a good driver because I'm trying my best.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I'm doing the very best I can, but it's still not good. And they are so bad and it makes me, I've cried like four times while driving since I've moved here because the drivers are so bad. You can't just left you have to yield you have to yield that's the law You say literally got flipped off this morning just for driving like at a normal speed in the parking garage Someone flipped her the bird Explain that explain that that parking garage is a death trap too people go flying through there You weren't even at the last one i prefer the last one i prefer the p garage
Starting point is 00:02:11 i prefer to the cleveland or the russian are you an anxious driver lucy like are you not confident driving to begin with because this city will steal your confidence no i'm just bad i'm i'm a bad driver and I know I'm a bad driver. I'm pretty confident in that. And it is so terrifying. I walk everywhere. If I can walk, I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It doesn't matter that it's a thousand degrees outside. That's how much I hate driving here. I hate it. Even though when I walk, I almost get hit by buses, too. The Tonys mentioned it before, being a bad driver is a good thing here. Like, you just need to embrace that you're a bad driver is a good thing here. Like you just need to embrace that you're a bad driver and be aggressive and confident.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Because that's all it takes. You don't need to use turning signals. In fact, if you use turning signals, that's just a weakness and everyone else will speed up around you. It's not going to be a good thing for you. So if you want to get over, just aggressively get into that lane. I cannot do that. I literally cannot do that.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Probably should drive here. You should use turning signals. Why is that a thing no one ever does here? Do they know it's there? Do they know the purpose? Well, speed up if you use it. You can't get into the LSD Martin. You don't do that here. Put it on the pole, Ju-ju.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Do Miami drivers know that they can use the blinker to change lanes? It answers now. Lucy, do you follow only in-date yet on Instagram? Not yet. I mean, it will show you just the sheer amount of carnage on these streets every day. There is a car fire a week in Miami. I do not under how are all the cars catching on fire.
Starting point is 00:03:39 There will be like a couch in the middle of I-95, a freaking couch. That's just the temperature. I lived in LA before this. So I felt like I had dealt with bad drivers. And then the week I moved here, my dad, who works in car insurance, by the way, was down here and was like, I have never
Starting point is 00:03:55 seen anything like this in my life. Three separate times, we saw someone confidently driving the wrong way. I don't know if this information is still true, but at one time, one year, the intersection of pines and charadins in Broward was the world's deadliest intersection. I was told that growing up not to go there. I didn't know that it was actually the deadly intersection.
Starting point is 00:04:22 My mom wouldn't let me drive there when I was a kid. Why are you laughing? Mike, because it's drivers, because it's like four and five lanes in every direction and it's all bad drivers. Like Lucy said, I think most people project Iowa because she's a big Iowa hawk. I've had it, she went to school there, but she's lived in LA for several years,
Starting point is 00:04:42 which is reputed to be the worst city in America. No, no, I'm telling you now. I mean, obviously this is not just me driving around in Miami. I've lived here all my life. I know how bad the drivers are. It's never been this kind of overcrowded. I don't know 10 years from now how many seismic changes are going to endure from things that change during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:05:06 But one of them was the relationship that people have with their work and where they can work. And Americans have learned that they can work from home and if they can work from home, they'd rather do it in the warmth. They'd rather do it in nice climate. So we've got a lot of San Francisco and New York, a lot of tech money. Just an absurd number of people for, I York, a lot of tech money. I'll just an absurd number of people for, I need to remind people of this because they think of Miami
Starting point is 00:05:31 as an international city, all of Florida is just a bunch of spring break towns. That's all it is, all of them are Daytona. And Miami's is just browner and has a little more money because it's got a bit of international audience and it's whatever. Reputed gateway to the Americas. And drugs. And that. Yes. And a city built on drugs.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Thank you. Drugs and money and fraud. But we are basically, all Miami is, is another Caribbean town, not unlike the rest of the Caribbean that happens to be attached to Florida instead of an island, the customer. Service is terrible everywhere. Oh, look, Lucy, we've had another Lucy land on. Everyone is nice here. I am the type of person where if I'm checking out, I want to have a little chat.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I want to know how your day is going. I want to crack a joke or two. I don't be like, hey, how's it going? People just look at me. They just look at me and that ruins my day. It ruins my day. You are far too nice for this town. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I say that in the best way, the best, most flattering way, but if I didn't know you and you just approached a conversation with me the way that I think you would, I'd be turned off by it to and I'd be rude to you It's just I'm like what what's this person? No in Miami if you approach me with yes like your Jovial self. Hey, it's Lucy and you know you're your cute charm and your knitted sweaters like I don't I would just be like weirded out by it It starts with hey, how are you? Not to be happy yet.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Lost me. I hate it here. I believe that Miami, Miami and to our distrustful of overt friendliness. Yeah. I literally got extorted like my first four months of living here by my landlord at the time. So I'm with Lucy on this one.
Starting point is 00:07:24 You guys are just all mean. I don't know how to drive. Yes. That's fair. I will not take responsibility for the appalling behavior of your landlord. Well, I'm kind of proud of it. I came back from a study abroad program in college
Starting point is 00:07:39 and when I returned to South Florida, I went for a jog around the neighborhood and was making eye contact with people and waving hello and saying, hi, because that's how it had been, where I had been living, and was so jarred by the like, disdain in the looks from people. And it made me realize, I'm home.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Lucy, is it possible that the people that you are chatting up and this is possible in various parts of Miami aren't English speakers. Are you going to places that the people might not be the service might not be speaking English? Sometimes I will try Ola Komostas to see that's where you're going wrong. I was going to paint a nightmare scenario which why that exchange would go poorly. And it would be you saying, Ola, Como, stars. I had a very delightful interaction with the Spanish speaking woman
Starting point is 00:08:30 at my Salvation Army near me, and I couldn't understand anything, but we had a great time. She was so nice to me. She was the only one that was nice to me. Except for there have been a few times where I'll go talk to service workers about how crappy the people in Miami are and they're like, thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I get it. You pull up with your baby on board. I want to hear more about this. I want to hear the decision-making process. I want to hear where you went to go get it. How you decided all of this. I got it on Amazon. It will arrive this weekend.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I bought it yesterday because I just, I'm not good at driving. I cannot do it. I was like, how can I be safer here? And I have a friend who, she has like a not nice car. And she was telling me that people drive a lot better around her because they assume she doesn't have insurance. And my car is like a fine nice car.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So I'm like, well, I can't just go get a crappy car. What can I do to mark myself as someone who needs a little extra caution? Baby on boards. I feel so out of touch so many times. And the fact that I just asked you, where did you go get a baby's on board thing as if you wouldn't just order that from Amazon,
Starting point is 00:09:48 made me feel almost as bad as getting the intersection wrong. That was the world's most deadliest in 2001. It was Pines and Flamingo, not Pines and Sheridan. Those run parallel to each other. That would be weird if they ran parallel to each other and we're causing a lot of accidents. Over a two year period of the study that ultimately named Pines and Flamingo, the most dangerous intersection in the nation, there were 357 accidents.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And it wasn't overcrowded then. Now it's overcrowded because that, that area, we keep building out West on marshland, deeper and deeper into the Everglades and the things that shouldn't be built on because we don't have any more space except to go up in South Florida. I legitimately don't understand how it is that a place like Halea is the fifth least affordable
Starting point is 00:10:43 housing market in the United States. I don't have a more stunning, we had seven stats of the day yesterday, a whole week's worth of stats of the day. I don't have a more stunning stat I can give you than Haya Lea, the armpit of my youth, being the fifth most expensive housing market in the United States, that least affordable. It just... BOOMING! It's exploding. It's a huge boomtown right now.
Starting point is 00:11:12 How was that? Because it was an affordable part of town and then all these places gravitated towards it. And for people on a budget that wanted to live in South Florida, that would be where they went. Like, it's a huge boomtown. I did not think it would be possible in my lifetime, given what has happened in general with the climate
Starting point is 00:11:35 for places in South Florida that have never had any money to be gentrified by other parts of the country and for highly it to be one of them. It's one of the most surprising things to have ever happened while I've been living in South Florida. Well the good news is that the drivers might be terrible here and the people might be unfriendly and your landlord might historic you but you will also pay a fortune to live here. And there's a hurricane coming. I got chased by a homeless man the other day too. So having a really good time.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I think we should come up with Lucy's daily complaint about daily observations about living here. We'll have happy music and then just the sentence. I got chased by a homeless man yesterday at 11 a.m. At least the highs only 93 today. These cooling down cool spell. It is cooling down. Who, which was the player that shouted at the US open that they're trying to kill
Starting point is 00:12:38 people? I think it was Medvedev. Just because of the heat because it was so hot. The fans are at Don Don Lebertard. Elton John does not like performing crocodile rock, but to the point we were making, I think he still does because he just knows the crowd wants to hear it. Right. Well, he has to. I feel like that safe. He might be litigious,
Starting point is 00:12:59 but that was such a poor imitation of the song. Still gots. We can all agree. Piano man. The crowd all agree, piano man. It's my good son. The crowd needs to sing piano man. Yeah, but I want to hear Billy Joel sing it. Yeah, most of it, they just let you at the end go. Would you do? Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do That was just going to work. They're rocking our rock. Big Billy Joel's being here now. You got it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's all right. This is the Don Limita show with this two gods. I mean, El Hasen will be here shortly and bitter and furious because he's working too much. Oddball is something you can catch every day, except for Monday. Every day except for Monday, because it's oddball. And so it's not every day.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Lucy and Jessica will be doing a weekly college football segment with us. And I do want to talk to them about some of the things going on this weekend because Lucy's a crazy person. Thank you. But I wanted to start with Mike Ryan because I felt for Mike Ryan this weekend. Not just because for a game at least he was loud wrong, but it's also just that Deon paid for himself on day one. Did you guys see the number that Colorado Texas A&M did as a rating?
Starting point is 00:14:35 That is not a good time slot. It's only a good time slot for sports. Saturday at noon doesn't get $7.2 million, $7.2 million people. That's crazy for TCU Colorado. Crazy. 7.2 million people represent more than any other football game got on television that day. It represents the biggest number that big noon Saturday has ever gotten. And I wanted to ask you, Mike, because there are plenty of people who have now, for reasons that I'm unclear on, it may just be because Dion is allowed mouth and for better or worse,
Starting point is 00:15:21 polarizing is good for television, but is going to get people on the other side. Not everyone's going to celebrate this. But you think you're very worried for America's kids, America's students, because Dion is doing things. I was wondering where you were going to go with this. differently. Well, I could go anywhere though, because you were very publicly against them being any good. And at the very least, no matter whether TCU is a fraud or not this year, they're going to be interesting to watch. And offensively, they're going to be competent. Yeah, I think they'll be able, I think they've proven that they're, they've got to move the ball.
Starting point is 00:15:58 No, I don't think they're going to move the ball to the tune of 500 passing yards and forcing 22 mistakels from the other team against the team. That was, even though a national runner up, eight disaster defensively. I understand why I'm being positioned as that because I was the only person on this show to be like, hey, this is new and it's unconventional and they're a bad team. So if that makes me a hater, it makes me a hater. I'm also the only person on this show that's actually donated to Deon Sanders and his school prior to. So I don't know how it can be both. A lot of Jackson
Starting point is 00:16:30 say. All right. But you were like, Mike, you were loud that they were going to be bad. No, I wasn't loud that they were going to be bad. I was loud in that. I don't think that he deserves to be paid more than Kyle Whittingham and you're very, you're always a subscriber to the chaos theory. And I understand why Dion works for you. I'm skeptical. I think it's right. I was rightfully skeptical. And this, who could have forcing that?
Starting point is 00:16:55 It's already a hugely successful year. I think it's a huge overreaction to beating a TCU team that might very well end up being bad. I mean, but no, but no, hold on a minute. However bad they will be. reaction to beating a TCU team that might very well end up being bad. I mean, Oh, but no, but no, hold on a minute. However bad they will be, they will not be as bad as Colorado was last year. No, Colorado, it's, they're, they're so much better. Colorado was for the last few years outside of one Mel Tucker year.
Starting point is 00:17:18 They, they were really bad. It's already a smashing success. Uh, but I also think it's a bit of an overreaction. I think both things can be true and you can have an overreaction to week one. I think I saw a staff from Draft King Sportsbook that 97% of the betting public is on Colorado this week against Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And it's only a three point line. I think that game's probably the most fascinating other weekend to me because of Matt Rulan, Nebraska, Faldon, too. That's, that's incredible. It's wild to call that the most fascinating game of the weekend when Elastaco is this week. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. I love Mike being like Kyle Woodingham should make more money than Dion Freak and Sanders who was like independently famous. If you had never touched a football ever again past the age of like 35 You get paid more when you're super famous. That's like that's how it works. It doesn't matter if you're a better coach or not. Okay I think a part that's interesting with the David Samson. No, is it show up? It's fair. Oh, I I noticed what was happening during that game. It's like, oh, I'm gonna be called the hater for just saying,
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think that this is without precedent and something far more likely to not work out than it did. And after one game, I'm willing to come to you at hand and say, yeah, I was wrong. It's going way better than I thought. I never thought a million years they'd upset. But what's the old? PCU? What's the overreaction to that though, right? Because I don't think anyone is making the conclusion. Oh, they're gonna win the championship
Starting point is 00:18:51 They're gonna be nine and three. I don't think people are making those leaps I think they're saying holy shit that surprised us while that's surprising and seven point two million people watching because They added this element of fame because it doesn't have to just be somebody who's exes and owes. These guys are all figure heads for their universities. They are all fundraisers for their athletic departments and for their schools and for their libraries. They are all prestige grabbers for your institution. So what is the overreaction to? Oh, biggest rating, big noon has ever gotten. What is the overreaction to? Nobody played a college football game this weekend on television that drew bigger numbers than people wanting to see, hey, what's Deon got going on over there?
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'd save as far as Colorado. They're better than I thought they were going to be this year. But my major question surrounding Dion in that position is what will happen when Coach Prime gets dealt with adversity? What will happen when they go on a two game losing skit? And I don't think that's necessarily something that's talked about right now because they just be the national runner up and everything's amazing
Starting point is 00:20:00 and they're gonna throw it for 500 yards every day. But what will happen though Mike is content. Like he is a fountain of content. He's got Coach Prime on Amazon video. Everything he's doing is videotape. He is culturally relevant in his 50s, in some of the same ways he was, in his athletic prime. To me, those are, he makes...
Starting point is 00:20:19 Ah! I... He said it. He makes Colorado matter by virtue of standing on their sideline. They matter. They matter They matter and he does make the matter and you made the matter before it got there, but that's winning. No winning is winning I think winning is winning that's that is also important, but after one game What he's given you is both he's given you winning you didn't expect and he's given you winning that pays for his entire contract. Pays for all of it. He is now underpaid, Mike. He's underpaid.
Starting point is 00:20:52 See, that always gets me because no, he's not. Mike, they got $28 million in donations because he signed up. Yeah, that's what they say, yes. And he still has a lot of challenges coming his way that he articulated in terms of resources. And hopefully, I like to, when Colorado was good, I think it's good for college football. And like I said, I've donated to Deon Sanders in the past. I'm also personalizing this because, man, if they're good, if they're good, it's gonna be really hard for the program
Starting point is 00:21:24 that I back, specifically, that is a monster to deal with. And I know that he carries himself unconventionally, he carries himself like Deon Sanders. There's a lot of bravado there. He does a lot of things that even in the murky world of college football is kind of looked down on. Hell, there was video of him going up to what I've been told is projected to be a first round draft pick at corner that kid Newton going up to him right after the game And I see a lot of potential in you. I mean, I've heard that he's face-timing with players and opposing locker rooms like he he goes about things a very Different way and if he has that program cooking like after one week
Starting point is 00:22:00 It certainly looks like they're well on their way They're gonna be really difficult to deal with, really difficult. I think that it's fair to wait for more data before we decide like how good this team actually is, but I also think you have to give the man credit, which I'm not saying you're not doing, but like we, I doubted Colorado. I thought after turning over your entire roster and taking over a team that was one in 11 last year, it would be really difficult to win big games. They've already won a game that I thought they would lose. There were 20 point underdogs. A lot of people thought they're going to lose that game.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And now you look at the rest of the schedule. And if they play the way they did against TCU, there's a lot more wins in the win column than you thought before the season started. So, yeah, I think he gets credit. And I think also we will wait and see because preseason rankings don't really matter. They don't mean anything in college football. There's no preseason. We don't know how good any team is, especially in the portal era. And it's not until like week five or six when you start having teams play in the conference
Starting point is 00:22:59 and play against other teams in the conference and compare and contrast results, so you can actually determine how good a team really is. And even then, no one agrees on anything in college football. That's what makes the sport fun is that we get to argue for hours on end about is has Colorado played anybody yet? It's such a great sport. It's such a great sport in that respect too, because I can come into it with a certain
Starting point is 00:23:20 amount of backstory and knowledge that I think could apply to what I think their season's gonna be and when it comes to forecasting and I can be totally wrong, totally wrong as I was spectacularly wrong against ECU, but at the same time, I look at that D-Lide. It's got a lot of tiny bodies. I see a team that once they get into the war of attrition that is a college football season is not very deep.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And I don't think that they're this, to rank them 22nd, when you consider what their preseason ranking might have been, which is at the bottom of FBS, with one performance where you took a historically bad defense and beat them up, and they played so poorly. They're bad, and on top of that, they played poorly. I think it's a huge overreaction,
Starting point is 00:24:03 but at the same time, I understand why the layperson is just like, yeah, that's why you go get coach prime. This is the part that I don't get, though, if it's the biggest win in program, the last 30 years of the program, 20 years of the program, whatever it is, you want to measure it by. When Jessica says, he's getting too much credit, or you're saying overreaction. My question to you and the audience is. I didn't say that. You did. You just got, you know, I said Mike was saying that. I did not say, I said he should get a lot of credit.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Okay. Just through the year. I thought that you were making. Colorado fans are allowed. I just, I don't understand why we don't agree on what the proper amount of credit. Stugat said that yesterday, that's who you're thinking of. I'm Sue Gatz. I'm gonna have to go back and listen to it
Starting point is 00:24:52 because I was going to say it as soon as you said it because you may have been framing it on behalf of my objection remains though. What do you mean for his next time? What is the proper reaction? What is the proper amount of respect? I don't think you should hyperventilate. I think hyperventilation is an overreaction. I'm just saying, I'm skeptical because the coach prime brand is built on the things that we saw on Saturday. And if he loses to Nebraska, where are we going to be pointing fingers at? They matter a game against Nebraska featuring Colorado matters.
Starting point is 00:25:33 It doesn't matter whether they win or lose it. Don Levitard. If you lob a 30 mile an hour fastball to a major leager, of course, they're going to hit a home run. The worst major leager in baseball is going to hit 10 or 12 home runs under that format, being pitched that way. Today should be throwing curve balls. No, it's a fake event. It's like not even real. Still got you had a shooter. Oh, those are my deck shoes of longstanding. Real nothing to me.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Real shoes, right? Exactly. No, no, no. I am with you, Greg. What's wrong with that? Be coming on that one. VCC Don't Liberty Show with this two-gats. OK, I'll just lean into the Colorado pager stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:23 What I was alluding to and tiptoe to round is I Wasn't such a huge fan of how coach Sanders Approach this season approach some of his discussions with players how he goes about recruiting certain players It's I think it to be dirty pool in a game that's basically dirty pool anyways and I have so many hypocrisies showing when it comes to what I've said previously about changing regimes over here in Miami. But I don't want it to work so spectacularly well. I don't want it to work as well as it might seem after one week because I do think
Starting point is 00:26:59 that the way he's approached things can be called into question. I do think that it would breed a lot of copycats and I think that makes an already super dangerous sport and I'm not just talking about what's happening on the field, talking about all the ambiguity and different states surrounding all this rule. Lawlessness, lawlessness, you have a run again.
Starting point is 00:27:22 He's a bigger renegade and outlaw than anybody. And I'm not going to be worried about the kids guy, like I've been in the past, because I already sound very parole-clutchy. But I think it's going to be a fascinating case study. And I'm not willing to call it a success after one week, in part because I'm kind of afraid to. I think something is we've seen this before, but at much smaller scales. When Lincoln Riley did this at USC, he did get rid of players, but it wasn't the
Starting point is 00:27:54 entire roster. And yes, you've seen USC have like increased success way beyond when Lincoln was there. They still haven't gotten to the promised land quite yet. It's one of those things were like, I don't want it to work in the sense of like, I don't want it to be the norm. I don't want kids to get pushed out of school time and time again. And yes, I know I'm like, the, you know, what Mike doesn't want to be in the watch out for the kids, but I was in college like three minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I sympathize with them. Yeah. Like Lucy, a bunch of kids had coach prime walk into their locker room with a camera crew. And he basically told them F off. I'm bringing Louis and it's and and knowing how he approached things in Jackson state and seeing how that's playing out in Colorado. He's not really going to change his M.O. And I still think you can meet it with a bit of scrutiny, and I understand you're drawn to the chaos factor. And yeah, let's light a flame to all of this.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I'm just a little hesitant to be all aborted because there are certain things about it that feel icky in a sport that's already icky. Wouldn't there be almost an argument that he's accelerating the path toward us getting toward the solution though, right? Because there's so many coaches like Mario Cristobal, for example, right? Who's this big time recruiter in the new NIL world and we're going to spend the next five to 10 years figuring out how that works until eventually we ultimately get college football to a place where it's almost over regulated and you have a salary cap and you
Starting point is 00:29:23 have all the things that these pro leagues have. So why not set fire to it now with somebody like Dion who might have success and then we see the copycats fail and we finally have to figure out, okay, what's the right solution for this league? I agree with that in the sense that you haven't had any coach for so many other coaches have come out publicly and been like, I don't like what Dion is doing. I am not cool with that. And when they start to get together and get angry, the NCAA has had no sort of like rule over the sport whatsoever. They're looking for their moment to come back in and be like, Hey, remember us, we are in charge.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And I do think this could all lead to that. I'm so skeptical that anything will ever happen in the sport that is good for college football players. And also, it's like, if he, in a roundabout way, causes like positive change in college football, do you have to hand it to him? I don't know. I don't know about that, Jarevair. Given how we talk to kids that he just met, I am worried for what is reaction will be because right now it's
Starting point is 00:30:26 great being coach prime. You can give those halftime press conferences where you're like the the the high's minimum would be chilling at his house or you could single out members of the media for not believing in you and all that stuff plays so well, especially with your fan base after you had the us against the world win. How is it going to go if they lose? Because that provotto will flip on a dime, and it'll start blaming others, including kids, if they struggle. No, I think we're all kind of waiting for that first loss. How does he approach that? Because it's very easy to celebrate beating TCU of ranked TCU team. It's just, man, my heart can't stop thinking about the athletic story. When they interviewed the Colorado kids who were asked to leave and they were like,
Starting point is 00:31:12 yeah, Dion didn't talk to me the entire time I was there. He came in with the expectation of, I'm going to let these kids go. I'm going to make these kids go. And like, I don't know that college football is not like the compass of morality, but a small part of me still wants to believe there's something that should be this way, you know? I just think we should be careful to single out Deon Sanders for doing stuff that a lot of other coaches have been doing for a long time. And I think his fame and the way that
Starting point is 00:31:42 he does things is like a particular brand that people want to root against, which is why I think it's important to give him credit when he's successful, but also like the same when it's Lincoln Riley or any other head coach when they're doing things that are not in the best interest of college football players, we should call them out too. A thousand percent, Jess, and we have to look at this as it's a black head coach. First time in this opinionated, it's a black head coach with not a ton of experience. He's already been a head coach at Jackson State, but that is a huge part of how people are
Starting point is 00:32:20 going to be talking about this. And I'm talking about the on Sanders really as an avatar for a larger issue, but even though roster turnover exists, certainly more in the NIL age. Mel Tucker had all of this success previously, a Colorado by turning over the roster. He got to Michigan State and one year in it looked like a genius because he turned over a roster.
Starting point is 00:32:42 There are coaches that go about talking to these kids understanding that, hey, you're not a fit here, we're gonna help you land on your feet somewhere else. And I think totally ignoring somebody and playing this style of pool, to me it's not my favorite. I mean, I feel like I am looking right now into an oddly distorted
Starting point is 00:33:06 fun house mirror. Mike Ryan sounds like a grandfather. Lucy, she has a baby on board now. She's an old woman protecting the futures of kids from mean, mean coaches. He is an imperfect pioneer for Mike Ryan to be voicing his discomforts in protection of the University of Miami program because of the future adversity that Colorado might face that will be a
Starting point is 00:33:39 content factory for us because Deon's going to step in it and Deon is going to be what these coaches all are in these press conferences that stink when Sabin's not giving you his depth chart week one because he's so protective. He's here to break the model. He's not going to do it perfectly. There's going to be collateral damage all over the place, but he can't have done it more successfully than he did out the gate. It's not possible to come out stronger than video everything I'm doing. Make me the center of attention.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Let's do a giant television number when all college football is made for television spectacle and you have seen the greed is changing the way sports entities do business and changing the way all of us are going to consume college football the next few years as it becomes more overtly, obviously professional football in disguise. Like it's just a cheaper brand of football and of course, Deon, like all these coaches is going to use all those kids as a stepping stone. He already did it at Jackson State, as a stepping stone to his next career move, because, surprise, Deon is one of the most famously selfish athletes ever, a mercenary of the highest order,
Starting point is 00:34:56 and he sees a business opportunity here. First of all, I respect Mike for admitting, at least in part, even though I think it's a big part of it. You don't want to seem succeed because it's not fair. You've struggled so much down here. We're waiting for that turn around, the easy turn around. And this guy just around and one year in the mountains, I'm screwed.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Cartwheel's in. Shits on his existing players, kicks him out the door, engages in all types of weird NIL recruitment and then comes out here and just is a massive success right out the gate. It makes Mario crystal ball look like way to second. What the hell are you been doing over here, buddy? Like that's yeah, if you want to do the direct comparison, you have someone parachute in and fix things right away or at least that's what the optics are one game in, Right. And you have a coach down here that I support that I donate to the program with. And I'm like, I would sign up for that plan. That'd be because I'm
Starting point is 00:35:52 exciting. Colorado is not a destination, neither as a location nor as a university, right? It says as a location. It is. I think kids in L.A. and in Texas and Florida want to go playing. go forget about prime, want to go to Colorado? Everyone that goes to Colorado is from LA. They call it UC like, I think it's University of Colorado or California Boulder. Everyone goes. I don't know about the athletes. I'm not talking about.
Starting point is 00:36:17 No, they all are from LA. They're from LA. Yeah, everyone like LA goes straight to Boulder. It's definitely a destination school. That's why they call it UCLA. Yeah. Oh, if I may, I always wondered if this plays out over the course of the football season, the way it did last Saturday, where they are so much better than anyone expected.
Starting point is 00:36:35 This quickly, he'll be there eight months and he'll actually go to a school with real resources. But I'm okay with him changing the entirety of the structure so the coaches who are making $80 million have yet more pressure on them. Yeah, maybe Norvell would be out at FSU already if there was a new standard. Where no one's gonna wait around for FSU for him to put the L in Norvell and everybody to be laughing at him. He's turned it around and usually that does take time. And I suspect this will take time to by the way
Starting point is 00:37:06 because i don't think they're gonna be great this year but i root for them to be great and i think if you're not rooting for them to be great it's almost classic hating you're just saying i don't want him to succeed why because that's bad for me yes so initially I pushed back on the notion, hey, don't project hate or I've donated to Dion in the past. No, I'm a hater. I don't want this to work.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Let him wear it like... Don't want it to work. That's what college football's all about. Right? Hating is more fun than loving. I hate everyone else more than I love my alma mater. So give me... That's how it works.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Give me your mentions. Give it all to me. I welcome it. I don't want this to work. Because if it works, I'm royally. F***. Put it on the pole at Levitage Show. Is hating more fun than loving?
Starting point is 00:37:57 It's amazing. It's such an amazing feeling. Feel so good. I'm going to embrace it. I feel so free. I don't have to pretend like I'm not a hater. I hate it. I don't want it to work.
Starting point is 00:38:08 One game is a beat the national runner up. One game is a beat the national runner up. I've waited 20 years. I hate him. Let's go. I hate the on-senders. I hate free. I hate Colorado.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I hate their fans. I don't want it to work. I need it to not work. Oh, why hate their fans! I don't want it to work! I need it to not work! Oh, why isn't it working? Stop working!

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