The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Cornbread Whore (shoutout Kate)
Episode Date: February 23, 2024Lucy was called a "cornbread whore" by her younger sister Kate, so Amin wants to know the most creative insults that have been thrown at the Shipping Container. Then, Mike has a warning for the people... purchasing NCAA 25. Then, Pablo Torre subs in for Amin! We discuss the 1997 performance of Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac and some of our other favorite live song performances on YouTube, NPR Tiny Desk Concerts, and take a look at The Polls from this week. Plus, Jeremy is the anti-Mike when it comes to Victor Wembanyama, and Pablo and Jess have some thoughts on American vs. European consumerism in sports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, Lucy, your sister called you
a very interesting word or name.
Yeah, so this week was National Sister's Day.
Am I, I didn't, yeah, I didn't post anything for her.
She didn't really post anything for me either, but whatever and she texted me and she said hey
It was national sisters day this week, and you didn't post anything for me. You're a cornbread whore
I was whoa, okay hold up. I have never been called that before
I don't think I've heard anyone been called that before so I texted K
I said hey girl, what does cornbread whore mean and she said you
I said, hey girl, what does cornbread whore mean? And she said, you.
I was like, damn, I can't come back from that one.
And I was thinking, I was like, man, these days,
people send mean shit to us online all the time,
but it's very basic.
Like you're a b****, you're a ruggler, whatever, blah, blah.
I enjoyed being called a cornbread whore a little bit.
That doesn't give you guys permission
to call me that, listeners.
But I missed the days of creative insults.
Like one time someone tweeted at me and they were like,
you're a whole wheat bitch.
I don't know what the food term sort of thing is.
That is better than white bread.
Yeah, a whole wheat bitch.
I was like, you know what?
And that was years ago.
And I still think about it all the time.
And I'm like, you know what?
I'm not even magic called me that.
I'm honestly honored.
So I was wondering if you guys have any names
you've been called that's just like,
that's creative as hell and you can't be mad about it.
That I can say on here?
Well, it is max, but it's also a family show.
So give us a PG-13 version.
I've been called a Sasquatch head ass.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I love the term head ass.
This is kind of like the looks like contest
that we do on the LeBatart show, right?
Like they're creative insults.
They're very mean cause they're, you know,
making fun of what you look like,
but they're sometimes very creative and funny.
That's what makes them good.
That's why when, like Lucy said,
when we get insults online,
it's not like it hurts my feelings.
It's just like, ugh.
Be more creative, yeah.
Just do it in a way that I haven't heard it before, right?
Give me something new here.
I once got called by, well not once,
I got called by Shaq this a lot of times.
He would just start singing A-Rabb Bunny
every time I'd walk into a room.
Every single time.
That's problematic.
No, it's not problematic, man.
It's Shaq, Come on. It's yeah
Sure, but every time looks like a duck
Jeremy you're a theater kid man. I kind of feel like you have to have caught yeah
I'm not gonna say a lot of the words that have been thrown my way
Other than other than those that I won't say my favorite personal favorite is just when I've been called Jew
That's really good. Hold on was it was it a Hispanic speaker that was
talking about Jew? Hey Jew over there! Hey Jew! You know you gotta be very good.
No unfortunately this was a confrontation on a basketball court and Oh and your face? Oh wow. Yeah someone just uh... We're just flustered and we're scanning for an insult and landed an effing Jew and I was like whoa, you don't even know I'm Jewish
That's crazy
Two things one by the way wouldn't have been offended if they knew I was Jewish
Number one crazy that that was a wild guess and it landed. Yeah, right to now. I know our Dan doesn't go to you
I was like what Jeremy should be more involved
I mean you got something here nah you Jesus. That's it. That's why Chuck doesn't say it
That was so weird when he spelled it out JJW. I'm like I didn't think this was bad until you started spelling it out
Yep, also, it's not like they're you know dogs or something like if you spell it
They won't know what you're talking about. If you put Jewish before anything,
it's going to sound like it's an anti-Semitic trope.
Like if you say like Jewish basketball, you're like, ooh.
Wait, Jewish deli with like a word.
I think it's putting the in front of your group.
I'm going to tell you this.
Jewish, fine.
Jew feels a little uncomfortable.
See, that's what I'm saying.
And that's what Charles Barkley was saying.
Jew deli does feel different to see.
Yeah, it does, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you call it the Jew deli.
We are towing a lot.
Dude, I'm not.
Yeah, I'm giving you permission, don't worry about it.
On behalf of the Jewish delegation,
or the Jew delegation.
Oh my God.
The Jew delegation.
Yeah, let's find me a way out of this.
Oh, Jessica, surely you have something creative
you've been called.
I don't have anything good.
People are not creative when they insult me.
Does that make you feel a little let down?
Yes, it does.
It's like I don't have the smart people hating me.
I haven't just seen it.
I've called a nine before.
If you would like to creatively insult Jessica,
would you like to give out your handle?
Go ahead and send her.
My Venmo is Jessica Dash-Smetana.
That's where David Samson sent me $1 when I won the bet.
I did that once where I was like,
oh yeah, if you wanna send me something mean,
you know, send it to my Venmo.
And all these people were requesting money from me
and ended up backfiring so bad.
I would just say that.
You're gonna get so many foot, foot headlines on your Venmo.
This, you guys are doing it wrong.
You don't put out your Venmo.
You put out your cameo at Darth Amin,
request me anytime I will respond within five days.
Don't worry, birthdays, celebrations,
bar mitzvahs, bot mitzvahs, funerals, whatever it is.
Jeez.
Oh my God.
Is cameo still going strong?
I never ended up joining because I sensed a plateau.
A plateau.
Amanda Bynes just joined.
Oh, she did.
Yeah. A plateau. You know what I just joined. Oh, she did! Yeah.
A plateau?
You know what I'm gonna do right now?
I'm gonna do a cameo live on air.
Oh.
See, it's this easy, ladies and gentlemen.
He's doing both parts, Dan and Stugatz today.
Ladies and gentlemen, Amino Hassan.
It's Max's birthday, everyone.
And this comes from a beam.
Happy birthday, Max.
What's something special about Max,
you want Amino Hassan to know?
Max is a big supporter of you and the show as a diehard wizards fan
He wants to know whether there's any hope for the franchise
He's also a big Nick Cage fan
Okay, are there any poorly rated gonzo cage performances that are must watch cinema? Thanks. This is what I'm gonna do Mike
I want you to answer the Nick Cage part Tony. I want you to answer the Nick Cage part. Tony, I want you to answer the Wizards part.
And let's see, Jessica, I want you to do the show,
like all of the show loves you stuff, all right?
Weird, you didn't go to me this time.
Yeah, no. Strange, I wonder why.
What's his last name?
You're on the bench.
You're out.
All right, are we ready?
Is everyone ready to do this?
I guess, I forget the Nick Cage question,
so I'll just do an impression.
Okay, all right, here we go. Hey, Max. Happy birthday. It's, oh,
whoops.
It's tricky. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Cammy attendee Tony.
All right. Let me take two, take two, take two, take two. Okay.
Okay. Here we go. Three. Ready? We ready? Okay. Here we go.
Three, two, one. Hey, Max. Happy birthday. And as a huge treat,
I'm going to answer all these questions for you,
but I'm gonna have the people of the LeBatard show
do it for you.
This is awesome, all right, so we're gonna start
with Mike Ryan, who's gonna give you
a great Nick Cage impersonation.
Mike, take it away.
Hot.
That's it, that's all he's got for you.
Okay, now we gotta have Tony,
who's gonna answer your wizard's question.
Tony.
Buddy, Elvin Hayes is not walking through that door,
neither is Wes Unsell, the wizards are done.
And finally, Jessica, thank him for liking the show.
Thank you for being such a big fan.
I don't think you can hear this because the sound
is coming through Amine's headphones,
but we really appreciate you.
Incredible, so Max, you got literally zero answers
to any of this, but you got me kind of holding my phone shakily.
Hot.
But I appreciate you.
Ooh, someone just vented me a dollar.
Really?
Hey.
That's live.
Okay, happy birthday, Max.
See, ladies and gentlemen, that easy.
Cameo.
Outsourcing your work to us.
The Stu gots us wrong.
And he didn't even hear it.
And he didn't even hear it.
I'll send another one later, don't worry. Okay. Can I get something off my chest that I wanted to talk about since yesterday? Please?
I'll play off not college football playoff college football 25
We talked plenty of the college football playoff, but I I like a lot of people my age that have maybe pseudo retired from the gaming
Lifestyle explain what college football 25 is for the people that don't know. It's a college football game produced by EA Sports that has been gone for over a decade and since it
disappeared people have been lamenting its absence, missing it, playing the oldest version of it.
Thanks Ed O'Bannon. Yeah, Ed O'Bannon who got some players paid, they got about a grand for the
course of a decade and I saw the spin like whoa the payouts were a grand for the course of a decade. And I saw the spin like, whoa, the payouts were a grand,
but that was also over the span of a decade.
If you get paid, you break it down,
it's like $100 a year that they got for being in the game.
I was actually fearing that people would come out and say,
this is an insult, this NIL deal.
But so far, I think the number has landed all right, $600
in full scope
It's the largest NIL deal ever and they'll have additional NIL deals for people that want to promote the game on their social channels
But I think this is going to be fascinating to watch because the people that are really into this have not really played video games
Since the last incarnation and as someone that has maybe dipped his toe in the waters a little bit, guys, the game has changed.
First off, do not line up outside of a Best Buy at midnight
thinking that this game will be there.
Best Buy is no longer carry physical inventory.
What?
I do think that this game will set a modern era record
for physical copies.
Can I wait at borders?
Because no one knows that you can just download the games.
Games stop? don't look.
Here's what NCAA football fans want in a game, the simulation experience.
We want to be able to sim for hours.
Make it if I play a football game in a day, it's probably too much.
I just want to spend 30 minute phone calls with parents and build my
prestige the old fashioned way.
But what you're going to run into is there's this whole player pack phenomenon that EA
latched on to about 8 years ago and it's terrible.
Don't give a shit about Ultimate Team.
My day is not made by being forced to open a FOSTER MRO card.
I don't like that stuff, I just want a sim.
So do me a favor, EA.
Make the game for the people that are actually going to go out and buy this, because it's
meant a lot to a lot of people of a certain age.
I've had this release calendared for over two years.
You move the release on me, I have a babysitter for the full first week of release.
It will affect my marriage.
So please, don't disappoint us by making some new fangled
player pack ultimate team. We just want the old game with updated names. That's
all we want. I don't think I've ever played NCAA football. What? You're missing out?
You're missing out. This is going to be the least productive summer in the history of
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Don Lebatard. All these high paid analysts. I don't want to mention names TNT, ESBM, you
know, oh yeah, they are dead. They are not going to make it, you know, even if they win in
if they lose it in Miami to calm you down.
I try to lose in Miami.
I don't got a chance in Boston.
Oh, they are going to have their ass.
You know what?
In Boston, you know, two guys were wrong.
They were.
Are they going to lose a job?
No.
Are they going to get a cutting?
Pay not?
What are they going to do?
Keep predicting.
What is the obvious?
They are going to say, oh, the Noggets are going to win. Oh-pipe? No, what are they going to do? Keep predicting. What is the obvious?
They are going to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win.
Oh, Denver, the altitude.
And you know what?
The heat are going to win at all.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugads. Come on! Great song. Hey, thank you very much. Nice, George. I've got that.
I'll take all of that you got.
That was Letterman, right?
Yeah, that was Letterman.
And him going to a band like that was akin to Carson telling a comedian to come up on
the stage.
Yeah, no, Letterman.
When Letterman gives it up for you, you know you've f***ing earned it.
Like that guy is not trying to be effusive.
All right, well, kind of start here.
And maybe sports.
All right, Amin did what he said.
He's off to catch a flight, but that's OK.
Pablo Torre, host of Pablo Torre, finds out,
is with us to bring this show home.
We had a little bit of a break, and we've
been watching a ton of live performances.
We went down a bit of a rabbit hole on YouTube because my wife, I bought her a shirt, right? And
it was a targeted IG ad and she didn't get the reference. It was a shirt that
simply read something along the lines of, I can't stop thinking about the 1997
performance of Silver Springs where Stevie Nicks shares a hole through
Lindsey Buckingham. And I showed her this video, and I had to explain
where the hole door, and it was cool to watch
someone experience it for the first time.
We just did that for Tony over here.
Tony, your takeaway on the 1997 performance
of Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac.
Mick is wearing what I would imagine
Robin Hood to be wearing.
He's wearing like a shirt that has like, over springs by Fleetwood Mac. Mick is wearing what I would imagine Robin Hood to be wearing.
He's wearing like a shirt that has like stringed things
that he would tie.
That are like a sailor somewhere in like Greece.
It's like Robin Hood meets Captain Lou Albano.
Right, right, yeah.
Electric performance, I've got to say,
from everybody in the Fleetwood Mac band.
Just, it was great.
Yeah, and then we then-
What a review.
Totally.
That's actually the end.
I killed it.
Wow.
All right, good.
Yeah, on the whole show.
All of the Macs killed it.
All of the Macs.
The mix and the Macs, all of them.
Then we went into Fleetwood.
About 20 years in the future,
and we saw a Future Islands performance on Letterman,
which we onboarded you on.
And that was also a very cool pop culture moment in time
for indie rock kids because Letterman got it right away
because the performance blew so many people away
and it was so different from especially what that audience
was watching at the time.
Tony, your review of Future Island's
Letterman performance.
Good dancing by the guy,
just said that he dances
like she dances, so then I thought the entire time
instead of him dancing, I saw Jess dancing
and then I was like, kinda weird.
The song was cool for you guys?
I thought for sure, I saw a lot of guys
and girls dancing in here.
I probably would have skipped next to the next song,
but it was what it was.
Yeah, I do love those seminal live performances
that stop everybody in their tracks.
And right then and there, you know,
and this one may surprise you,
but it's a reference that Dan will occasionally make it.
What started the Latin explosion
was this performance by Ricky Martin
of the Cup of Life at the Grammys
that I'm telling you is one of the most
electric goddamn performances you'll ever see. Ricky Martin of the cup of life at the Grammys, that I'm telling you is one of the most electric
goddamn performances you'll ever see and it totally changed the sound of pop music at the time.
Pablo, is there a live performance that you consider a game changer?
Man, a lot of my playlist of live performances is so over indexed now on tiny desk,
like the NPR tiny desk concerts, which I think is taking the mantle from like the late night show.
Like Conan Letterman, they had like this real cred because they used to break bands that were not mainstream to your point, Mike.
And now it feels like NPR is doing a mix, not just of that, but of like like let's get this rapper in here to do an acoustic
I mean T pain on tiny desk to me was like revelatory on a couple of levels for that reason
So was juvenile too though when Juvie came in and they did all that like that was incredible
I just saw the GZ one and then it took me back GZ has so many bangers
I went down to Spotify and it's place
I was like oh bang or bang or bang or bang it all the way down
But at those tiny desk things not not only bring you into new people
that you wouldn't maybe have thought of, right?
Like, probably I know you know him because you've had him
on the show, but Action Bronson is an incredible lyricist,
an incredible musician.
Love that one.
And there's so many people that don't know about Action,
where it's like, if you've been following his career
throughout all of his mix tapes, all of his albums,
he's got a new one coming up, by the way.
I know you've been seeing that on social,
but for people to never see him
and then see him perform the way that he does,
it's like, oh wow, I'm a fan now.
Yeah, I want you guys actually, Mike.
I feel like we're hitting on sort of, you know,
a solutions-oriented concept here.
Why can't there be like a shipping container desk? Why can't you
guys invite bands in to the container and do, why can't we just plagiarize NPR and
do this in Miami?
Well that's not really where our company cut its teeth, but we can we can figure
something out. I want to shoehorn one of my tiny desk takes in because I do also
love that series and I discovered so many bands through there. Jack White's now wife put something on our IG stories
way back in the day of Idols, this band that I positively
love and wearing out their album that just dropped.
It's called the Tank.
But if you watch their Tiny Desk performance,
the intensity that just vibrates off the screen there,
I could not get enough.
I've worn that video out.
And they turned out to be one of my favorite bands
after just seeing them for the first time on Tiny Desk.
What's the capsule summary on the whole incest thing
with Megan Jack White?
Where did we do with that?
Where did we leave that?
Well, yeah, so.
That's actually interesting that you said that because.
Yes, it is.
The White Stripes, you didn't know this
about the white stripes.
Nope.
Like you know that Megan Jack were married at one point.
Yeah.
You know that they were married.
They were related.
When they burst on the scene, it was still like
infancy stages of the internet that you know now.
So the story was they were brother and sister.
And the internet found out after they had already become a hit.
The internet found out that, oh, these people that actually look alike and you
believe to be brother and sister, no they're not. They really do look alike. I
found out today that they're not brother and sister. Really? Right now in this
moment. Well you nodded your head silently that they were married at one
point. No, I was really confused by what was happening with the incest conversations. So they were married, divorced,
continue on with the band,
and were still very close.
They should have done a smoochy reveal on Letterman.
But.
Shocked America.
But the internet discovered
that they had actually been married
and it was this wild moment in time.
Did they perform the 1997 version of Silver Springs
at each other?
Meg does not have that vibe.
Meg and CV Nick's in terms of intensity,
it's like, you know.
Fuller opposites.
It's like Dick Vermeel, Mario Cristobal.
Like it's just like a huge difference.
This is the second time you've named
Rock Dick Vermeel in like two weeks.
People need to know that Dick Verm vermel was a player's coach
And was emotional and was weird out of that position
It's I mean he was very successful at coaching one many years without a job just because what sits and now
Everyone's that archetype Pablo? I want to get into the polls with Tony because they're corporately sponsored
While he pulls up some polls once you tell the fun folks what you got going on at Pablo Torrey finds out
Well today we have an episode that is actually I think something that is not what you expect from an episode about guns
I'm going to tease it that way because guys I I've gotten self-conscious about how I show up here
And I promote my wares and I'm so proud of my wares people are like
Why don't you do show and I'm trying to just like hang and I realized as soon as I say the word gun, it's like, this guy.
So just, I promise you, it's good.
It's not what you think.
Can I share a text instead from Chris Cody
that I got at 11.52 PM last night?
By all means.
So I don't know.
I'm catching up on your guys' life this week.
I'm out of the loop because of the F4 mentioned gun episode
I was doing.
But what I got from Chris Cody at 11.52 PM last night
was this, quote, I'm in and why, and that was it.
Wait, what?
Oh, it was a mistext.
No, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
And 11, what time did you receive this?
11.52 PM out of nowhere.
That's amazing.
He wanted to let you know he was there
so that you wouldn't feel bad
if he posted something to his Instagram, but he also didn't want to invite you know he was there so that you wouldn't feel bad if he posted something to his Instagram,
but he also didn't wanna invite you to do something.
Yeah, I'm confused.
Is there a backstory here?
Like Chris is obviously not on the show today.
No, so he kinda sprung this New York trip on folks,
certainly sprung it on me.
I'm not supposed to be here today, but I am.
It's cool, no resentment at all.
I know from his IG stories that,
cause that seems like kind of a,
maybe I'm doing a Chris Cody thing,
that seems like a drunk text when it comes in,
when there's so vague.
100%
It was a scene without, look at his story.
Yeah, but he was also at Hamilton.
But then he went to a jazz bar.
Yeah, but like the guy went that one at Hamilton?
He hit me, Chris got super horny at Hamilton
and hit me with a U-Up at midnight, basically.
Huh.
Tony, let's read the polls for the week
and they're presented by the new season
of the Peacock original, The Traders.
Streaming now with new episodes Thursday at 9 p.m.
Eastern only on Peacock.
What are the polls?
First one up, did you like the movie Limitless?
Oh, Love Limitless.
58% of the audience said yes.
I'm so mad I missed the Limitless conversation.
Did you guys talk about the part where he drinks
his own blood off of the floor
and like sucks it up with his mouth?
Nope, we missed that one actually.
We did the Sultburn shows weeks ago.
I was just about to make the same joke, damn.
A more iconic, a more iconic shrug, Michael Jordan vs. the Blazers,
or the last dance security guard playing Marbles.
69% of the audience says last dance security guard.
Hell yeah, good take by us.
Deserved.
Which did you watch, Reggie and Candace Parker
or Dreymon Green, Chuck and Taylor Rooks.
59% of the audience said the alt-cast with Dremon, Chuck and Taylor.
My favorite pastime now is just following two personals IG account and seeing how many
of my guy friends are liking every post.
Oh, I love...
Mike, one of my favorite pastimes is to go through, and of course I'm doing this anthropologically
and not because I myself am on there, Super Horny.
I'm on there looking to see who likes this thing,
and I just keep track, just cataloging.
Yeah.
We're up to.
Mental note there.
Our $200 tennis shoes affordable.
See, I don't like the way that this poll was worded,
because tennis shoes, what are we doing?
We should have written sneakers.
I mean, when I think tennis shoes,
I think New Balance and New Balance had a banner year.
They did, but also when I think of tennis shoes,
I think of somebody like at the villages playing tennis
with like old ass tennis shoes.
So, I don't know why I'm on the villages algo,
but I'm, have you ever seen like, yeah.
I got one of those.
I'm from the villages.
Yeah, yes.
I have sex with everybody.
I think I know why.
Is that what the villages vibe is? yes. I have sex with everybody. I think I know why. Is that what the village is vibe is?
Yeah.
It's like retirement.
Oh, it's VD capital.
It's a huge VD capital.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you're a urologist, like, mecca for urologist
is moving to the villages.
Man.
We say gym shoes in Chicago.
Well, sneakers is probably what we should have said there
I don't know who wrote that poll all good our $200 tennis shoes affordable
It's a dan asked question 90% of the audience said no hmm. Okay
What's worse a ruptured testicle or a fractured testicle a good question either way
We'll be able to see them with the new MLB pants and 88% of the audience said a ruptured testicle would be worse
Which I agree
Are there professional players in any sport who play without underwear?
We're about to find out 78% of the audience said yes, and is a jockstrap count is underwear
No to the front. Yeah, but it's like a mullet. It's like underwear mullet, right? It's like party in the front.
Leggings count, right?
And party in the back.
Like, track and field athletes probably don't wear undies.
No, I do leggings.
I don't wear underwear underneath my leggings.
That would be crazy.
Crazy.
A lot of bunching up.
A jockstrap, a jockstrap.
So I have a voicemail inbox on Publatory Finds Out,
you can call it.
And we got a voicemail today about jockstraps,
asking why they were invented.
Why is it, as Tony put it to paraphrase,
and why is it like business in the front
and the villages in the back?
What's the deal with that?
And I don't know, I've never worn a jockstrap.
So, open investigation, call it.
It feels kind of weird when you put it on,
because you're like, I'm used to having coverage everywhere
when I put something on, but this is like,
yeah, like everything is exposed out back.
Kind of weird.
I feel like I'm in a swing.
Yeah, last one here, Latrol Spreewell.
What do you think of him?
Multi-time All-Star, choked as coach or rims?
Oh.
Only one right answer, it's rims,
but the audience got it wrong, choked as coach at 69%.
Yeah.
I also think Ian once.
Oh, spinners, come on.
Spinners shoes.
Of course, yeah.
The sprees were, in terms of discount tennis shoes,
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On the list of shoes that are constructed
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Don Lebatard!
All of us who were watching college football
elevated everything the weekend was
because we missed football in general so very much.
You didn't watch the ending of U-Tep Jacksonville State.
It was awesome.
It was easy. Boom. Mm-hmm. Stugats.
Such a lane for you. Just everything in college football is awesome. Any single thing that
happens she gets deliriously happy about. Don't you miss viewing sports through that prism though?
Like I'm envious of Lucy. Like I wish that I could still be happy. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugas.
The Stugas.
The Stugas.
The Stugas.
The Stugas.
The Stugas.
Did you see that Ricky Martin,
the interview he gave this week?
The feet?
Yeah, the feet thing.
Guess what's the feet thing?
No, I haven't.
No, we haven't talked about it.
I haven't.
What's a feet thing?
Ricky Martin. Ricky Martin, a quote from GQ magazine quote. I love feet. I have a foot thing I love foot massages, and I would kiss your feet like crazy for hours, but we all have something
Wow, I don't really have something should I have something? I like a pretty face. I'm gonna go me crazy
You dog the sucker for a pretty face your face guy. Yeah, me crazy. You dog. I'm a sucker for a pretty face.
You're a face guy.
Yeah, big face guy.
You have a face fetish?
I think so.
I mean, I'm also attracted to intellect and a certain charisma.
Face first.
But face, you gotta have a face.
Gotta have a face.
Gotta have a face for me.
It's the face for me.
All right, I'll count to 10.
Five, four, three, two.
You can keep that.
One, Honorable Mention creeds Thanksgiving
halftime performance.
That can't be Honorable Mention, Mike.
That's the top five.
I'm sorry, that makes a mental mistake.
But in the moment, it really wasn't as weird.
As it is now?
What do you mean by that?
What jersey did he wear in that performance?
His own personalized, Scott Scott's jersey. Yeah,, I have so Kyle Brent swagger Jack me because I had customized before it was a thing for Thanksgiving a
Number 11 Scott Stapp Jersey. It's still hanging up in my closet
But Kyle Brent beat me to it in War One the exact same plan that I had on on a good morning football broadcast
So now it just looks like I'm copying him.
Wow.
Did Mike and Parsons choose number 11
because of Scott's death?
Wow.
I think it's a fair question.
Public Tory should find out.
Find out.
Jeremy, you were talking before the show
about Victor Wimbanyama, who's really hijacked.
Amazing.
He's hijacked the conversation,
and I gotta tell you, I've been right about the kid.
How? Dead on. I told you this day would come conversation and I gotta tell you, I've been right about the kid. How?
Dead on.
I told you, this day would come.
And I was fearful of this.
Is it that he broke basketball?
Cause there was a stretch there where you were saying
he wasn't good and he was just tall.
I mean, they're losing a lot.
They're not, they're not a good thing.
The only reason they're winning any games
is because of everything that Victor Wembenyama does.
He is one of the most unstoppable forces in basketball.
And at this point, I'm convinced that next year
he'll win defensive player of the year.
He won't win it this year, because he's a rookie.
But next year he'll win defensive player of the year.
And basically the year after that, moving forward,
he'll be in the MVP conversation every year
until he decides to retire.
There's a stat here.
Victor Wendianma is the first player ever
to have these numbers in a season.
150 plus blocks
150 plus assists and 75 plus threes. It's February. I have another stat on Victor women yama
Since 2024 started Victor women yama has 74 blocks in 22 games. He's averaging 3.2 blocks per game.
He has more blocks, okay, than the entire Miami Heat team has since January 1st.
Yep, very tall.
68 blocks in 23 games for the Heat, 74 blocks in 23 games for Victor Wimanyama.
Super tall guy doing super tall things.
Yeah, but he's so talented, Mike. Like, he is going going to change basketball and it might not be for the better as you mentioned
No, it's gonna destroy don't like it the only thing see me
The only thing that might potentially save the game of basketball is Liz Frank. She is our only horrible
That's horrible. I don't like that. You said that she's our only hope Pablo
Where do you fall when it comes to this Victor Wimpen
Yama discussion?
Because I was fatigued of it before it became a thing.
And yeah, just dimensionally, he's a huge problem.
He obviously is skilled.
And credit to pop, he finally figured out
kind of how to play him.
He was trying to do too much early on.
And I think now he's kind
of found a groove and he's doing some more of the exciting things but he just really
struggled to acclimate to just being tall. Just go be tall for a little bit and they
did alter their game a little bit and now he's taking over games. It's not resulting
in wins but if he's say is healthy, no doubt he is going to be a force.
Yeah, look I have PTSD from just big men getting injured.
So the whole like planter, fasciitis,
Liz Frank thing is like real.
I am very glad to get to watch him now.
I'm glad that his teammates,
like they're no longer ignoring him
when he's like rolling to the basket at eight feet tall
with like an open lane
and they're like giving him the ball now more it seems.
My favorite things about Wemby though
are how he is like, he's the sort more it seems. My favorite things about Wemby though are how he is,
like he's the sort of exotic where the very basic details
about him have become part of his mythology.
Like he goes to bed at 1030 to read books
and he enjoys books.
And this is part of how he is hailed
as like this new like creature from like outer space.
And so for me, I enjoy the sort of just dissonance
of like the guy seems on NBA
while also embodying the future of it.
But I mostly am worried that he's gonna snap an ACL.
I mean, that camp, Mike.
I, why wouldn't you assume that?
Just given the history of tall people and their feet
in that sport, especially when someone is this tall,
doing things that we don't typically see people this tall do,
but he's been incredibly healthy
throughout his very young career.
And he's been praised for the ways
in which he's anticipated all of this, right?
He's not naive to this.
He has a trainer that has done these exercises,
these stretching exercises. He's seen him doing yoga specifically because of
all of these concerns. And so the fact that he has not gotten hurt yet, the fact that they've
load managed him in this way, all speaks to that recognition. But I did a story once for Sports
Illustrated about the afterlife of seven footers. And I hung out with a bunch of dudes seven feet
tall and up. And the actuarial charts on their lives which is tragic right like this I won't
be a bummer here and just name all the guys who've died that I interviewed or got brutally
injured because of various medical maladies but in terms of just the fact that you can't do this
for very long that's the part where Joel Embiid is absolutely figuring into the conversation because Wemby, look, what Wemby
was supposed to be is supposed to be is what Joel Embiid was this season before he got
hurt.
And so I just hope that we get to get that.
It always goes back to the Sixers.
Nobody's doing it with blocks.
I want to talk to you about consumer power from sports fans in Europe opposed to here in the United States
because sports fans in Europe
have blown up billion dollar deals
and they're doing this routinely.
You can see European sports executives
filled with envy at the American sports model
because American sports executives
tend to just trample the fan base
as we're watching right now with Nike slash fanatics uniforms that no one likes in Major League Baseball.
They came out to zero fanfare and lots of poison, and they're still marching on ahead.
And maybe there's going to be some changes because we see dicks and balls now.
But over in Europe, German supporter bases have blown up a billion dollar deal
with very questionable funding.
We saw what happened to the Super League two years ago
where fans rose up and they stopped a huge deal
from happening.
I have a couple of theories as to why
the American sports fans who may actually have this power
and just haven't realized it, I have a couple of theories as to why there American sports fans who may actually have this power and just haven't realized it, I have a couple theories as to why there is such a difference. I'm
curious if you have any.
Well, look, the obvious interpretation there, right, is that demand for sports in America
is inelastic, which is to say we're always going to want this. We see it as our escape
from reality, which means that when bad things happen inside of our escape,
we're not gonna escape anywhere else, right?
And so what's the closest thing?
Mike, I ask you this question actually,
as we think through this.
What's the closest we've come to a populist revolution
when it comes to consumer power in sports?
Because you're right, the Super League stuff
was something that I have never seen.
I think students being hired by Texas A&M.
I mean, stop that shit and it's trash.
People at Tennessee painting on that rock, right?
Like, is college football where we go for that?
College football, the only comparison to, you know,
what it's referred to probably unfairly is hooliganism.
The sports tribalism over in Europe,
the closest thing to it, the regional identity that an athletic program has with its community.
It's college football.
And we've seen boosters, also considering the dynamic that these aren't full capitalistic air quotes, ventures, you know, there's a whole student athlete thing.
We've seen boosters and fan bases rise up and say, no, we don't want Greg Sciano as our head football coach.
And they flex that power and they've stopped things. They haven't stopped things nearly
like Super League. For example, we were talking before the show, you said it, well, the Pac
12 is gone. I don't know if that's a West Coast thing. But there are certain deals in
this country that sports fans don't like and haven't been able to stop.
And it just seems like we're all passengers in the six-way into college football playoff
thing.
I don't know if we're just so accustomed to being broken by American sports' free market
capitalism.
Teams can leave communities, whereas, you know, if Chelsea wants to move to another part of London,
they can't, there are protections in place.
They have to approve, they have to get approval
from pitch founders that actually own the literal pitch
that Chelsea plays on.
It's a totally different dynamic.
And I wonder, it seems the way that we're going
is that Europe is gonna end up being more like America.
And it's a shame because oftentimes the fans
are on the right side of these things.
Well, Mike, let's just say it bluntly then about America.
America doesn't have that dog in us.
We don't want it enough.
We're happy to eat what's served.
And I get why, right?
Like you don't have, look, the thing about
like a popular revolution, I presume having not participated in one myself in that way
is that you sort of need an example to follow and I think the presumption is it
won't work and that's it's gonna that's where Europe differs they've shown that
it does it's a shame because they'll blow up something that will totally
fundamentally change a sport like Super League.
And you see the notion of Super League is not going away.
In fact, just a couple of months ago, they started trotting that back out.
They're going to keep fine tuning this thing until it finally lands in a peak.
They're never going to give up on the thing that college football, by the way, is engineering
simultaneously as they're trying to, in Europe, soft launch it again. Right.
But if you...
I feel like we are overgeneralizing a little bit about the cultural aspect because there
have been major wins for labor in this country in the last year.
There's also been some huge losses, but it is something that I think in the United States
has been largely cyclical because you've seen different administrations, different industries
really prosper, and then there's the backlash to it.
Right? different industries really prosper and then there's the backlash to it, right? And right now we're in a really interesting time where you've seen the Writers Union,
SAG, the UAW have these huge labor wins, but at the same time, President Biden not siding
with the railroad workers last year. So it really is something that I think you can't
really overgeneralize about Americans not having that dog in them, right?
Like you said, we do feel really beaten down
by the system that we operate in,
but people are trying to fight back.
We have 30 seconds.
I think we are gonna find that dog in us.
Unfortunately, it's just gonna be to stop pants
in baseball from continuing to be produced.
You got 10 seconds here.
Do you actually think Nike and Fanatics
are gonna pull these uniforms?
I think if people cared more about baseball,
this would be such a bigger story.
And I think everyone's just hoping for people
to not care that much about the sport
whose pants are truly see-through.
I think we just need a bigger penis.
America, we have that penis a lot bigger than you thought.