The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Divide And Conquer

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

Dan, Stu, and the Shipping Container explain the plan for the rest of the show after power went out at the studio...No. For real. It's not a bit. Dan plays a quick game of "Pick Your Favorite Stat" before handing the keys to Stugotz and his team of Billy, Brad Williams, Roy, JuJu, and Jeremy. Then, Stu's crew tries to guess what Le Batard's group will do for Hour 1 and questions whether they should do something different or do the same show but better. They discuss if there might be a spy in the group and Erik Spoelstra's beard before Stugotz questions if Spo could leave Miami. Plus, we dissect what might be one of the biggest Stugotz lies has ever told. Is the Stugotz strong in Jeremy?! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. We are going to attempt here, however, awkwardly, to give you a full day of content. We had so many good things planned, including a video presentation that would have had in one corner of the screen

for all of the hours that we were doing it. Bill Simmons' heartbroken face at the Celtics game, because, I can't get over this part of the funny because in the most relic building that they have had in Boston in a century, that everybody was talking about how excited and how great the energy was, the air started leaking out of the building

on the very first play. When Boston realized, oh my God, our best player is hurt, And in the second half, he couldn't move. But we've got with us right now. We're going to split into groups in a second. But right here, we have Stugots, Mike Ryan, Brad Williams, comedic great, comedic giant, Brad Williams, Billy Gil, Roy Bellamy, Jeremy Tashay, Tony and Juju. In other words, way too many people, we will split this up in groups in a second. Yes, to God's. I, Al Hwarford did not get hurt. It was Jason Tatum just to clarify, okay?

Thank you. I want to read to the group an assortment of stats and I want everybody to pick one, but you can only pick one as I go around the room on most amazing of these things I'm going to present to you. From stat news, they heat the season, were 30th and points, 27th and rebounds, 25th and assists, 25th and offensive rating, 21st and net rating, going to the NBA finals. Duncan Robinson, according to Rohan Nudkani, Duncan Robinson shot 88.2% in the restricted area in the conference finals. Also, according to Rohan, that's money.

Oh, wait a minute. They're going to keep getting funnier. Also according to Rohan, Caleb Martin regular season, 9.6 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1.6 to 6, 46% shooting, 35% from three. Caleb Martin conference finals, 19 and a half points, that's 10 more points, 6 and a half rebounds, same number of assists, 60% shooting shooting 49% from three. This from Josh Eberley, Caleb Martin, 135 points on 88 shots, Jalen Brown, 133 points on 134 shots. This from top of Haberstro made threes in the series. Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, 18.

Caleb Martin and Tyler Hero, 22. From Tom Haberstro, Jalen Brown's eight turnovers, career high and the most in the Celtics game seven in franchise history. From John Allinger, Boston becomes the first city to lose a home game seven to an eight seed in both hockey and basketball in the same season. Go ahead and choose. What do you guys?

You guys got plenty to choose from there. What is your favorite from all of those two guts? I'm going man, it was Duncan Robinson right up until I hollered your stat. That's my favorite right there. Again, points and paint giant Duncan Robinson, unstoppable in the paint, 13 for 15 in the restricted area. Mike, what's your favorite stat in there? It's not even in there, Dan. It's at the heat shot over 50% from three, three times this regular season. And in this series, they did it three times. They matched their season

output within this series. And also, I think back to games like the playins in which I believe Caleb Martin was over from the field in the playing game against Atlanta. I believe Bayamata bio was one for nine and the game for your season against Chicago. This was a team that needed to close out those final two minutes against Chicago perfectly in order to get into the playoffs. It's objectively hilarious. It is hilarious. This is hilarious. How the

heat have found themselves in the NBA finals. What are you shaking your head about, Billy? It's not how the game works. You just have to pick one of the other stats. That's true. He went off the board. That's usually that's a Billy move. I think you stole Billy's move before Billy tried his move. So Billy, what is your choice there? I'm just going to say the first one because there was lots of numbers. And then there was a bunch of stats and I got confused. Honestly. So the first one was the most impressive for me. Thank you, Billy, what is your choice there? I was just going to say the first one because there was lots of numbers and then there was a bunch of stats and I got confused honestly. So the first one was the most impressive for me. Thank you, Billy, for nothing. I look forward to seeing what you and Stu got to do together and another happened, by

the way. Yeah. Can we redraft? How did I get stuck with him again? I can't lose this guy. Roy, what was your favorite stat from among those stats? Oh, because it's included in the Panthers. This definitely Boston being the first city to lose a game seven in hockey and basketball

on the same season. Jeremy? It has to be including the guy that they couldn't live without Tyler Hero, adding to Caleb Martin's three-point shooting and them out shooting both Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. I mean, Caleb Martin, man. Tony? How does Dunk of Rob's and have 15 attempts inside the restricted area? both Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. I mean, Gail of Martin, man. Tony. How does Duncan Robinson have 15 attempts inside the restricted area? Does he have 15 attempts inside the restricted area all season?

You told him not to do that. I already got him to shoot her. Which he did. Finally, game seven, he let it fly without any hesitancy. That was why he was hitting those shots. But how does Duncan Robinson have so many layups? I forgot, by the way, I got the stat wrong. It wasn't 13 of 15.

It was 15 of 17. So he was even, he was spending even more time in the paint. Brad Williams, what was the most impressive of those stats to you? As a Laker fan, I enjoy the tears of Boston. So let's go with Boston being the only city to ever lose two game sevens in their, in their home.

I, I I I just love that Boston had a few years of just unparalleled championships between the Patriots Celtics and Bruins and then and Red Sox and now this a gut punch of a single season. It is I didn't even mention it is so amazing to see the story arc go from down 3-0 apocalypse, winning to tie it at 3-3s to God with a tenth of a second left and what would have been a historic forever remembered shot if not for shitting on yourself, the way that your starpalt peers did one time in a wheelchair as a franchise so that your season just ends in the smell of shit in your arena in your silent arena.

Uh, juju, I don't understand what you're doing. You are in now a Miami in Miami gear. You were in Boston gear. I don't know that your words mean anything, but among these stats, which was your favorite. My favorite stat is heat and three baby just like I always said. To got points out here via the chat that Caleb Martin is going to be paid less this season than Bobby Bonilla. Bobby Bow. A number of things here that are worth enjoying and forgive us because we're going to split this up in a second. Greg Cody and Chris Cody. Chris Cody right now is walking his father by the hand to the train because they are trying to get back after we have lost power. to try and do this the best that we can today. But from from what it is that we watched yesterday,

I don't want to lose sight, Stugant of the fact that that feels so good at least in part, because you have the combination of the way game six felt, which is as bad as one fan base can feel and as good as another fan base can feel where you're confused. Looking at replays, did you get the shot off in time to go from the emotion of that to the very next game in a Boston that was already celebrating the way that Miami got made fun of years ago, because Boston, LeBron and Wade celebrated before they actually won the game. They went from making the Miami Heat a historic, echoing laughing stock as the first to ever lose a 30 lead to come back with hope in your arena

and never have a good moment at home in the last game as you're the favorite by seven and a half. All the money is on you and Vegas. Everyone knows that you're the better team right up until you try to be the warriors, but you don't have two players who can be the warrior shooting from the perimeter. You you miss you miss your first 11 threes and the arena is dead. Your season is dead before game seven can even get off the ground. Mike, how much did you enjoy that part of it? The part where

you get to laugh at Boston when Boston spent the entire weekend laughing at you. It was kind of, it was kind of weird because I expected way more drama and, and, and more Boston tiers, but it's almost as if Boston and their fan base had the entire game to cope with what was happening. I kind of wanted it to get a little bit tighter. And there were some moments there in that fourth quarter where Boston would keep bringing it up to, to seven. And then Caleb Martin was the go-to player there Jimmy Butler was deferring to Caleb Martin I don't know what like I think I know what Boston figured out with Jimmy Butler is they weren't fighting on that pump fake

And you saw Jimmy just completely go away from the pump fake it at sometimes But there was a realization from everybody on that court in that heat uniform. They're all fence got stagnant and they just had to keep feeding Caleb Martin, undrafted Caleb Martin, Caleb Martin, which when we signed him to that contract extension last year, we just were all resigned to. Here's another overpaid deal. Now is one of the best bargains in the NBA. Yeah, it was great. All the best moments for the Celtics and their fan base

happened before the game. The announcement of the starting lineups, Larry Bird walked in, Mikael, the chief walked in, all the old Celtics were hanging around for a big game. Seven. I mean, it was great. If you just like Boston, that was a great, great weekend. It really was. And, Dan, I don't know what they do with Tate of a Jalen Brown and Missoula. I have no idea. I mean, break up the team, fire the coach. They're not going to do anything. I mean, this team went to the Eastern Conference Finals this year. They went to the NBA Finals a year ago. Those are two of the top 15 players in the NBA. What are they going to do? I mean, serious.

I would just tell you, that's fine. You can say that as a blueprint thing, but they have a $300 million decision to make. And at the time that they needed Jalen Brown to be a one at the time they needed him to do what Tatum was doing. Caleb Martin was doing it as a bargain on the other team. When Stugat, it wasn't but four quarters ago that Stan Van Gundy was saying out loud out loud on the broadcast. Jimmy Butler looks intimidated. Looks it wasn't that long ago. Jimmy Butler and Bam were terrible in game six. Bam was terrible in game seven. Jaleb, Jalen Brown is supposed to do what Caleb Martin did. What Caleb Martin did at value is what they're about to pay $300 million for J. Lynn Brown to give him eight

turnovers. So, got to say, don't do nothing, but you just saw what the Panthers did when they were good enough. Right. Team, if J. Lynn Brown's your number two and you need him to be number one, your proper screwed because look at what happened in that game when he just started taking jumpers all over the place and couldn't carry anybody and in the middle of it, they're like, Derek, why can you please save us? Yeah, but I'm saying is he's still, Jalen Brown is still a top 15-20 player in the NBA. Like Jason Tate of that injury was unfortunate and Jalen Brown did not have the game that he probably should have had.

What's your number one goes down? The number two needs to become your number one. But I don't know if the Celtics have any other option than to resize Jalen Browns and bring him back with Jason Tatum and let's not forget then it's Eastern Conference Finals and NBA Finals. That's where this team has been the last couple of years. And if not for a Tatum Echo injury, first play of the game, perhaps they're back in the NBA finals today. I mean, Jeremy, why are you shaking your head no like that? That game was a dominant blowout. Whether

Jason Tatum played or not, the Miami Heat had Boston's number there. And it was a number of different players that didn't play well. Jason Tatum still played every minute of that game. Every single player on both of these teams at this time of the season is banged up. We talk about that all the time. And yeah, we saw Jason Tatum get hurt, but he played through it. If he wasn't on the floor, maybe we have a conversation, but no, that was the heat starting too hard. Oh, look, Greg Cody has arrived.

He has arrived and he has put up a finger. He has found his way on the train in order to get here and be A part of the proceedings before we break up into two teams here Greg Cody welcome. What do you have for us here? You have some deep thoughts? I don't know how deep they are, but the Boston Celtics have proven in this series that They're not that good ¡No es tan bueno! Pero lo más aterrador es no saber en qué confiar. Uy de las personas que os piden que mireis. Si queréis seguir convido. Oh, wow. I think Billy typed an eight instead of a B. Five is a clear as day. All right, get on.

Stugats. Number eight. He got three. It's Chris Cohen, or on the line. C-C. VCC Don Limita show with his Stugats. So someone decided it was a good idea today. All days to connect our show to Dan Patrick

show. And by doing so, all the electricity in our studio, and in the city of Miami, the entire 305 is out, the entire grid. So we had to rush home, we have divided, and we're going to try to do the divide and conquer strategy. So we are team B team B. I don't like it. You don't like it. And we always get the B label. And I don't know why it is that we always get the B label or always kind of like the afterthought, the scraps, the forgotten ones. Here's team B team R. I don't mind being on team B because with team B comes lowered expectations and I like expectations to be very low for me. That way I could exceed the expectations.

TMA comes with a lot of pressure and it comes with levitator. So I mean, I am perfectly fine right here with this crew, you know. Speaking of lowered expectations, Brad Williams here, Dwarf. I would just like to say that team B, Billy, just look at it as not the second best. Look at it as team B is team Billy, Bellamy, and Brad. That's what team B is. I like that. So I have a question for you guys. We know team A very, very well. We're with them every day, okay? We know what they're probably going to be talking about. And so my question for you guys is this, Billy, I'll start with you.

Do you want to discuss the things they are talking about and try to do them better? Or do you want to go the opposite and talk about the things we know they are not talking about? Which way, Billy? about the things we know they are not talking about. We're quite silly. So you want to have a little contest and see if we can do a better show. I feel like maybe we should take the audience into consideration because when we split up, we don't really know what the other show is going to be talking about. So if we're both doing the same thing, then we're just doing an hour of the exact same, well, I guess two hours of the same show over and over and over again, right?

So should we talk about the other things? I mean, what are the other things that we should talk about? I know what they talk about right now. They talk about Ryan Quartier is calling to the hub for the 1700s time. I was nervous. Please, look at my brother Ryan. I love you. They also talking about how Mike Ryan does have the right to cheer for the team.

He was just doing a thing the entire time and being in the matches and Tony is blaming shit on AI. Yeah, some so you say you're predictable. I mean, baseball. And most importantly, Dan is talking about how Jaylen Brown, after that performance, if you even wants to go back to Boston, regarding Boston's racist history and he will bring it up at nausea. That's good. So Jeremy Toshet is a heat fan, which way do you want to go here?

Because I know you're dying to talk to Miami Heat, but I think we all know they're talking heat over there. So we have the Panthers. They're about to play in the Stanley Cup for the second time. It's a mystery. My daughter became a national champion over the weekend. I mean, what is it? You guys take it wherever you want to go. I'm happy to discuss the heat. I'm happy to try to do what they're doing and do it better, but Jeremy, I'm going to leave this up to you. I don't know why, but I am.

I really appreciate you leaving this in my hands. You know, it as someone obviously who covers the heat, who's a fan of the team who I'm pretty sure the only reason I'm even in this group is just to make sure that you guys don't get the heat stuff factually incorrect. Well, I mean, I was I was explicitly told, hey, go over there and make sure they don't get the heat stuff factually. So the only reason I'm here is. Wait a minute.

And yet and yet. And yet I want to start in the rightful place. Time out. Such as in Northwestern lacrosse natural chips. Yeah. Time out. By the way, who also made an entire city of Boston shut the hell up, okay? Yeah, I mean, how about that?

Time out. So you're a spy. You were sent here with a job to do what? Make sure that we all here with a job. No, we all sent here to make content. Billy, I think when it went downhill and the reason Mike was really kind of pushing Jeremy to be in this group is when I had Robert Powers, Kevin McCale and Larry Bird in the building last night, they wore it.

Yeah, I think that's it. No, they lived there. Those are cheap. They're always there. They never come here. Always there, and spirit. Yes. Did someone actually tell you go and make sure that they say things factually correct?

No, but it was a little bit of, hey, Stugat said a few things that were not quite accurate on the heat. So let's make sure we've got somebody who actually knows what happened in game seven over on the other. Just in case, just in case there's a decision to talk about, you know, the greatest franchise in the NBA and let me explain what happened to the Celtics and the heat. Okay. I mean, the heat, a team that Mike Ryan has not believed in the entire year hasn't had

to bend with the pay attention to what they did is they wouldn't have Boston and game seven after losing three straight and they kicked the Celtics ass. Is that sum it up? Yeah. That's about it. Yeah. It was really, I mean, it was unbelievable. And if we want just for a second to talk about that part of it, like the Miami Heat did the impossible

this season and being an eight seed to go into Boston and win in the game seven to now upset the one and the two seeds and beat the New York Knicks. Who we know, you know, they weren't quite on the same level as the heat throughout the season and into this post season. But what the Miami Heat have done is is really, really, really, really remarkable. And they did it despite the fact that realistically in the last four games, there were a couple games there where Jimmy Butler had numbers. And in game seven, Jimmy Butler had moments when he needed to take over. But in that last game and really throughout the series,

it was about all the other guys. It was Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin and Duncan Robinson, who nobody expected to see. You know, Duncan Robinson was second on the team in fourth quarter scoring in the series. Duncan Robinson. And he was nearly unbeatable in the paint. I mean, it was really, it was such an example of, and I hate to be this guy. But this series was the ultimate example of heat culture, not just beating a team that's more talented, but being able to bounce back from something

that we all historically have seen. You lose that game sticks that way, you're not bouncing back and blowing out the other team by 20. And yet, that's what he did. Their defense shut down Boston. It was an unbelievable performance. Billy, why are you shaking your head? Ding dong.

Ding dong. It's a teammate guy over here. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Ding dong. I'm a teammate guy. team A guy over here. This is a team A guy. You'd be a horrible undercover cop because you're just doing your cop things in here. Everybody. No, I don't like it.

All right. Well, you wanted him to go the opposite way and I told you that you know, he's doing the show that they're doing it for. I had to get a different for this hour. Well, I can tell you I can tell you one thing from that key broadcast as the outsider that I thought was the best thing is once the game was over on the championship podium, did anyone notice that they tried to push Spode to reveal what was the inspirational video that he showed the team and he completely just sidesteped it. It was like, we don't need to talk about that.

We don't need to talk about the inspirational video. He sidesteped that and when Bam tried to hand Jimmy the conference finals trophy, he said no, I'll hold the next one. It wasn't on Mike, but you can see it. You can read his lip now, hold the next one. Jimmy should have passed it along the Caleb Martin. Yeah, absolutely. Did anyone notice Spogue in a little handsy with E a there or any Johnson? Yeah, he grabbed his arm.

I mean, Billy, I see this. Are you still good looking guy, man? I don't know. Yeah, you're right. But I mean, Spoke on his hands all over Ernie's pushing him around. I mean, it up. I have a question for you guys because I was thinking this yesterday when I saw a postponed not just coaching, but when I saw him and like in that interview in between quarters. So he is not shaved and he doesn't have a good beard. Like he can't grow a great beard and it's like a little bit gray slash white now, but it's a little bit patchy, which is like no shame to him. I grow the same beard. But are we doing that to look like we're

so busy that we don't have time to shave our Beards and that's why that's going on because here's what I'm thinking is if they go on and they win the NBA Finals, right? If he goes back and he watches video and he hasn't shaved between now and then he's going to be like, man, someone should have told me something. I looked terrible. I should have shaved and now forever I have this crowning achievement of winning an NBA championship and I look not great because I didn't shave and no one told me to. I was just going to say salute to Charlotte Wilder and my big sister Charlotte Wilder. You know brother Michael Sherry, you feel me? I know y'all having a rough morning. Yeah.

Be all right, troubled on last always, you know. And Sarasivian. Succession also in the guys, you know. Oh yeah, that's true, yeah. on last all age, you know. And Sarasivian. Succession also into guys, you know? Oh yeah, that's true, yeah. But no one answered Billy's question, I think. I can answer Billy's question. I don't think Spokaires.

I think the the Glow, the obvious glow, the mad scientist look of, I've been in the lab orchestrating exactly what's gonna happen here. He's not gonna care when he looks back at it. So, no. It's a different era. It's a different era.

Someone around it, you should do it. If you the next time you see me, you're like, hey, hey, hey. That's what to happen here. He's not going to care when he looks back. No, it's a different era. It's a different era. Someone around you should do it. If you the next time you see me, you're like, hey, that's what we should do. I should pass a shave. Pass a razor through that stuff. You know what I mean? Like trust me on this one. You should do that, Jeremy. If you had any balls, you would do it. I mean, play off of this. People respect people that tell them things like that. Because like, he probably scares a lot of people there.

I would think, right? And no one wants to tell him, Hey, you look a little rough. Let's, uh, let's trim that, you know what I mean? Just checking him with a friend. Exactly. You tell him that for a second. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, got a minute. Let's just off the record. A little quick combo. You look like shit. Shame that on your face. You know, no, no, no, that's a playoff beer bill, Billy. That's that's hockey. Yeah, but it's not a beard, right? Yeah, that's double. It's playoff stubble. Yeah. Right, no, no, no, that's a playoff beer bill, Billy. That's that's hockey. Yeah, but it's not a beard, Roy. Yeah, it's double. It's playoff stubble. Yeah. Right. Williams, how would you handle this situation and telling Spowe the beard's not working? I would say Spowe try try to keep the beard going

because that's the secret of aging. The secret the secret of aging is not to look good because because when Spowe is completely shaved, he's one of the best looking coaches in the league. He's got to get that raggedy ass beard going because the secret aging is that you look horrible, but you look horrible for 40 years. Okay. Put that on the pole billies, the secret aging to look horrible is because that's what I'm going for.

I mean, look like Boonehosa. I do. No, I'm just saying look like booting Hozor. Go that one. Okay. No, you can go. Jeremy, are you upset at the theory that I brought up the dad Patrick? Because perhaps today is not the day to do it, but Eric's bolster of stock will never

be higher. And therefore, if he's ever thought about leaving, considering the jobs that are open. Okay. Now listen, Roy, you laugh, but I'm telling you, the championship that Kobe won without shack was infinitely more important to him than the championship that he won with shack and Spowe doing this without LeBron, without Wade, without Bosch and Jimmy Bleep and Butler as his best player, Spowe stock, never higher. Yannis is open. The buck's job is open. You have Durant and Chris Paul and Kevin Booker

open in Phoenix. There are plush plumb jobs and spoke to leave right now. He can write down his salary on a piece of paper. Tell me, wants to be team president and head coach, get out underneath the Pat Riley shadow and do this thing on his own. It'd be a great move by Spoke right now. He's never leaving. Yeah, it's never leaving. And if it wasn't, if it wasn't already sort of written in the stars or maybe potentially already written down on paper at that much is, I guess journalism that's beyond my

purview. But Eric's poster is going to take over this organization. He will be the president of basketball operations whenever it is that the time comes. And who knows? Look, maybe this is the perfect moment. Really, the question for you, Stugatio, is this the moment for Riley to look at this and go, this is my swan song. This is my moment to step out and show I made you another champion here.

Here are the keys, son. Take over the organization. That's the greater question that I'd be asking myself if the heat get four more wins. Bob Meyer stepped down. What if Pat Riley goes to Golden State? Oh my God. What are we doing? That's how we do it. We do it. Do it better. Don Lebertard. Stugots, if you give him the choice, do got you can have the very same thing one of two ways. You could get it honestly or you could steal it. He'll always choose stealing it!

Stugots! Well, it's the quicker path. I mean, it's just... VCC Don Lebertard show with his Stugots! Alright, guys, so I have a question. Stugots, obviously, as we mentioned in the last segment, is Dr. Rachel is now a national champion at Northwestern. They won the LaCroix National Championship.

And some of you know that some of you might not, but back a few years ago, Stu Gotts and I connected for the very first time as I became the video editor for his daughter Rachel's lacrosse highlight reels to get her recruited to go to school. Wait, what? Yep, this is the truth. This is the truth. A couple of years ago, Stu Gotts tried to get Lorenzo to work on the highlight reels for his daughter as she was trying to get recruited for college.

And Lorenzo knew how desperately I wanted to be anywhere near the show. So he ponded this task off on me. And I became the video editor for Rachel. Did you pay them anything? Did I pay you Lorenzo Lorenzo didn't do anything. You introduced me to Jeremy. Did you pay you Lorenzo Lorenzo didn't do anything. You introduced me to Jeremy. Did you pay Jeremy? I believe so.

I believe so. I paid at some point, I think. At some point, it initially started in paying by, hey, here are the other dads on the team and they have daughters and you can go ahead. You can cut their lacrosse. They'll pay you for sure. And we'll get back to you. But ultimately, I do think Abby guilt tripped Stugatzins into paying me somewhere

down the line. Nonetheless, nonetheless, I feel some level of connection to this national championship. I feel some level of personal responsibility. Yeah, you're going to get a ring. Yeah. And so I do deserve a ring alongside a heat ring. And ultimately, I'm sure, you'll get it back to me on that. But I texted Stude because I was incredibly excited about this. And I, I'm sure a studio got it back to me on that. But I texted Stu because I was incredibly excited about this and I texted him. Holy shit, congratulations. So happy for Rachel and for you and for the whole family.

Congrats again. He responded saying, thank you, man. What a day. And then four hours later, I get a text from Stu Gotts that says, when I told Rachel, this text is from the guy who put all your highlight videos together, she and my wife started to cry. Thank you, buddy.

So the question is, absolutely a lie. That's the question. Is this truth? Is this a lie? Billy, you're better than anybody at reading Stu Gotts' language. Was he telling me the truth? Or was this his way of trying to express?

I'm thankful. Thank you, but this is a bold face lie. Why even make that up? Why is your white and why are they both crying in the same? Very emotional moment to see your daughter that happy to see a dream come true, to see it fulfilled. Tinocious three more years left to play there. And she already has a big 10 championship at an national championship. And I felt the support of this entire show, except for you Brad Williams, okay? Because everyone was texted me, congratulations. I felt it, I got it from Dan, Mike, Greg Cody, Chris Cody,

Billy, Mikey A, Juju, I think you forgot about me. Roy is focused on the Stanley Cup. I'm a post-emolum. Yeah. What's in this? I didn't, I do. I don't have your number. I'm trying to make sure you never ask me for a favor because you know, then I come down to Florida. I'm doing shows at Miami improv. You want to come in tickets.

You want to be at the experience. Then you know, show up. I'm trying to avoid this happening. So I don't. Brett, you need your number. Brett tweeted about it a couple of times while the game was going on. Listen, I felt, I felt the love. And so what I'm saying is Rachel did not achieve this or accomplish this without her

vote. I'm sorry about that, Juju. I cut you off. My apologies. Is it something that was so good that needs to be said again? Do you want to say it again? Absolutely not. But what we realized, and what I realized, especially after winning it, was this was not something

that Rachel accomplished by herself, that there were a million people involved from trainers to support, to mentors, to someone like Jeremy who helped her put her highlight video together and did such a good job, that it attracted Syracuse and North Carolina and Northwestern and all these lacrosse powerhouses and what happened after winning the game was a lot of those people started to reach out. And it made me and Abby think back to the entirety of the process of Rachel starting to play the cross when she was six years old all the way up until right now which is just one national championship and it became a very emotional

experience for both me, Abby and Rachel as well well. And so all I did was say, Hey, this is from Jeremy Tasha. He works on the show now. He was the guy because Rachel was in 10th grade. She didn't know. Uh, this is the guy who put together your highlight videos. It did such a good job, uh, that it helped you get into the school you wanted to go to and they got very emotional. That is the truth.

I mean, I, listen, I don't expect you to believe me. Billie's already shaking his emotional. That is the truth. I mean, I listen, I don't expect you to believe me. Billy's already shaking his head. He's just saying of all the people that were in crime. The mind wasn't Jeremy that's like, this is where they started crying. And this is the part that's difficult for me, right? Because I received that text message and forgetting that Stugots was Stugots. I initially got emotional. I did, this made me kinda tear-eyed because I was thinking about the idea of like, oh man, I was like, this small part

and this is my initial link to the show, even though Stugots is not all the person who helped me ultimately get to the show. And, you know, but yeah, and he was, but yeah, sure he was, I'm sure I get him credit. But ultimately, I was sitting here feeling like, man, what a cool accomplishment. Like, as I remember playing Showcase baseball

and thinking of the same things, I'm now going through my own memories. I'm thinking, oh, how cool it would have been to be a national champion. It was in about 10 minutes after I texted Sue Gatz telling him how emotional it made me. I had the realization of, this is probably bullshit. So I think I need to bring it to the show.

And I asked everybody else, you could read the wise a little better than I can. So he responded, well he responded by saying, oh man this made me teary-eyed so he met my tears with his own tears. I did? So I'm not certain Tasha was crying. I'm telling the truth. I'm not crying. I can't lock it out tears. His memories didn't get over themselves because they had no place in Rachel's moment.

Exactly. Thank you, Juju. That's exactly what happened. I no place in Rachel's moment. I was exactly. Thank you I think that was Rachel's moment next to God's moment or Jeremy's moment This is why they happen. Oh, hey, this is from Jeremy Tashay and they looked at each other And it was like oh and hug more or something exactly cause. It caused them to cry. I call BS, salute to race out. So, Judges, they were early in an emotional state before I showed them the text of Jeremy. Yeah.

Yeah. The gaki. If I'm already celebrating the heat's wind, like they did, go heat culture, eat Colombia with a high five. Of course, I'm gonna give you a high five. I'm not gonna be like, oh, me and you had a great moment of high five.

Right. So perhaps it made me cry. No one else, maybe. Because I didn't cry. I mean, I saw you. I saw you on the ball. Did anybody cry at all? Rachel, Jeremy, do you guys have two carers?

I thought you got them looking high as hell. I was like, what are you looking at, Stu? Oh, I'm not as a kite. How you got that looking highs here? How like what look is stew? Now stew stew do you celebrate with with A little bit of the gonja or do you try to keep it straight around your daughter and your family? How how does stew party after a national championship? After my daughter's national championship. I party like I want it.

Yeah, that's it. With a lot of tequila. And then, you know, and then, you know, perhaps I smoked when I got back to the hotel room, but I wanted to separate the two, but there was a big party afterwards, and we had a blast. It was just, it was an emotional time, but I think the person I was crying, I was emotional. I am not certain Jeremy was moved that much where he was moved to tears. And so I am now going to spin this weird touch. It might be fair, it might be fair. Because I was, I doubt that you had a single tear in your eye, Jeremy.

No, I will say it did. It touched me that the idea that it could make your family as emotional as it did. So it wasn't like, I wasn't like this big emotional basket case that she'd won a championship. It was more the idea of, oh wow. Look at this moment that just got shared in the middle of all of this that I feel so thankful to be a part of a family moment that was shared in this glory.

And then really pretty immediately realized like it was, there was no way that it was actual tears. Like it had to be just an overexaggerated because I get it. I get it. I've been, I responded to you saying I was tear-yied. And who knows whether or not that was the truth. This, this has to be one of Stugots's greatest pivots ever. And in terms of how he practices, I'm just going to say Stu Gottsu,

the art of Stu Gottsu, where he, where where where where he lied, turns the lie around, puts it on Jeremy, and now we're all looking at Jeremy like, God, Jeremy, what you lie. How did this happen? I had very much the opposite interaction with two guts during the game where I tried to fire the coach before not putting his daughter in. I'm like, what are we waiting for? I was like, I've been watching this game for an hour. What are we waiting for? Put in Rachel. They should fire the coach and see how it's like a buddy of this game. I don't like dude. It is like 14 to four right now. They are now. I've been watching lacrosse for an hour. I know they're not coming back from this. Wait, no, this is great because Billy wanted the fire of the coach who was who was about to win her eighth national champion champ, please national champion champs since 2005, fifth consecutive final four, the most decorated coach of women's lacrosse history.

And Billy, I appreciate the support you wanted the fire because she didn't put Rachel in. But Rachel was five because Rachel's get a ring Rachel got three and a half minutes of the national semi-final game like she was good She wanted to go out and celebrate with their teammates. I was fine with it. Yeah, Billy somehow was not I was offended I was offended that this was going on It was a blowout put everybody in have everybody experience that game together by the way I felt really bad for the Boston College head coach. I think it's not one in eight in national championship games or something like that.

Man. Yeah. Why'd you feel bad for her? I mean, my daughter wanted that. I mean, because you go to the national championship so many times and you've lost it so many times, I'm like, man, this isn't great. And the conditions weren't great. It seemed a little rainy there.

Maybe we're both teams, though, by the way. Okay, I'm just saying, you know, not, you know, when is it loses there's to got. Hey, BC coach, how about you do me a favor? Okay, because I coached for 10 years. Am I team one undefeated two years in a row? We won back to back national championships. Make anyone else beat you other than Izzy Skane, okay? She's the best lacrosse player in the country.

You might want to double and triple team that girl. She's really good. I was a beat. Also BC coach put Joe rings in the box and put Rachel's rings in the box. Get you got. I think they're even. Yeah. She's got one. Rachel has one, but Rachel does have more than Kevin Durant. How about that? Hello. Hey. Hey, oh, so Jeremy, you didn't cry. I didn't cry. And I got to be honest. But Rachel does have more than Kevin Durant and on that So Jeremy you didn't cry I need cry and I gotta be honest. I never showed the text to Rachel or I have a feeling I had a feeling that was the truth You're just circling back around and all the people that you're looking like all right Did I give them a good enough message back they were really excited?

I sent like eight thousand exclamation points and I got like, hey, thanks, buddy. So this was a, he's feeling a little guilty later on and he's like, all right, how can I make, how can I make Jeremy feel better about this? I know what to do. More crocodile tears through text, crocodile tears through text. It's amazing. I'm proud of you, Stu. This is masterclass.

You're right. Stu got to you,'m proud of you, Stu. This is master class. You're right. Stu got to you, Brad. I did, Brad. This is it. No, I know you're not. You're not for me then right now. No, I know you wasn't grand, you ever did say? Because Derek White had just did some bullshit.

That was over yet. You're filming. So you know. Heatin' seven. Heatin' seven always. Heatin' seven always. I mean, heat and seven, heat and seven always, heat and seven always.