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DraftKings, the crown is yours. Wow, accountability plays. I wanna leave that here, you guys can keep that. Andrew Barry has taken a lot of heat recently because of the decision for Deshaun Watson, and I have to give some credit to Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the team that Mike formerly loved, the Cleveland Browns.

We're gonna get him back. You're gonna get him back? Oh, we're gonna get him back. Jimmy Haslem came out, and it's a rare thing for the owners, and it's funny to juxtapose what Jimmy Haslem did with what Woody Johnson said at the same time, but Jimmy Haslem took responsibility and said the buck stops with them essentially

for the trade and signing of Deshaun Watson that hasn't worked out. The Woody Johnson quote was about the surveys that were done for the NFLPA and Woody Johnson's organization got an F from the players. He essentially said, what that tells me is it's a little bit fishy. I don't remember the exact terminology, but he said that it was kind of like. Totally bogus. Yeah, he said it's totally bogus, rather than doing what's apparently,

although there's some reason to argue that Jimmy Haslam is not a standup guy, in this situation, he stood up and said, that's on me, but he didn't let his wife off the hook. But that's on me, indeed. I guess it's one thing to say that he took accountability, which he did, but he took accountability for Deshaun Watson not being good.

That's essentially what he's apologizing for. To me, when I quit the Browns, I didn't give a shit if he was going to be good or bad. I was hopeful he'd be bad because I didn't like him as a person. You acquired a garbage human being. That's what I want an apology for be bad because I didn't like him as a person. You acquired a garbage human being. That's what I want an apology for. Not because it didn't work out for you. So if they get Cam Ward though? That's how you erase it. That's how you get me back. There's only one way. Well, there's two ways. You can try to find a way to get Baker Mayfield back,

but that'd be great. I love Baker. Roof of the Bucks. I'm a big Baker guy. We all know wrong decision was made there. But Cam Ward is the other way to fix it love Baker. Roof of the Bucks. I'm a big Baker guy. We all know wrong decision was made there. But Cam Ward is the other way to fix it. Cam Ward, because of the Miami ties, I love Cam Ward. And yeah, that'd be a great elixir for what's ailing me right now. And I'm likely to support wherever Cam Ward goes to, because I'm that big of a fan of his, and I'm going to be rooting for him regardless of, even if he's a Baltimore Raven or Pittsburgh Steeler I throw my support behind Cam Ward so I I know that the Browns fans have been through a lot I think Browns fans even

though some of them supported Deshaun Watson do deserve someone like Cam Ward and I lived it I've seen Cam Ward turn a program's fortunes around I think he's an incredible player I think he's an incredible player. I think Tennessee's kind of figuring that out though. Cam Ward's, I feel like the perception around Cam Ward is going through a bit of the normal quarterback trajectory where last year no one knew him. And this year they're like, oh, he's pretty good.

He's probably gonna be one of the higher picks. And now it's going through the roof. I'm seeing him compared to the likes at the top of the league, or his skill level and talent. And I get why people are excited by it, but I mean, I get a little nervous the way they're raising the ceiling on my mind. Because everyone loves him, it makes you nervous?

No, it's not even that. It's about how fast it's gone, and the names that they're comparing him to, and the expectations that they're creating for him, and the situation that he's going into. Because they started putting him with people like Mahomes saying, talent-wise, he has that type of arm talent.

I don't think he was projecting him to be Mahomes, but they're putting him in that category. Yeah, it was Daniel Jeremiah who did comps for him and he said that Kim Ward is in the phylum. He's obviously not as good of a prospect of the Brett Favre, Caleb Williams, Patrick Mahomes style of player. And just putting those names out there.

And then you look at Chidora Sanders, and he's like, Andy Dalton. First off, that's not good. Not gonna tolerate any Andy Dalton slander while I'm on this shit stand show. Should have been a first round pick. Number one. Who slandered him?

I just, I don't know, cause it was the tone Charlie took. You're saying Michael Harrigan, but Chidora's an insult? It was an up, and then it went down in the tone of his voice My homes bread any like it was a doll I feel like you know even you would any of those comparisons are different They are different your insolvent by the should do I would rather him give the information and say hey

He compared him to these guys and he compared your door to this guy So I just walk away from it. It was like, there was a comedic time. It was well delivered. It was well delivered. I was gonna ask Charlie. It was unnecessary. I was gonna ask Charlie to redeliver it. Redeliver it.

Can you redeliver it in a way that's not offensive to Hawk or Andy Dalton? I would just like to get my information, please. I would not like to be told. Andy Dalton, who should have been a first round pick, is why Shador Sanders is 18th on Daniel Jeremiah's board. Oh yeah, that's moving him up.

I like that. We good? I like him. I like him. The Cam Ward, I'll probably surprise you with the take, Cam Ward is a flawed prospect. He's not perfect. If you go through his best games, he'll do things in the best games that will positively make you mad.

He's the type of guy that a GM will fall in love with, but also the type of guy that might get a GM fired. And I think, look, Kam Ward had a special season last year, and yeah, I think he's gonna be a great pro. But also, if this edition of Kam Ward was in last year's draft, he's probably maybe the fourth quarterback taking off the board.

You can even argue fifth, considering how Bo Nicks finished last season I think it says more about the current state of the draft class that cam ward is being talked about and Because he's gonna be number one or talked about as a number one pick then of course the comparisons of Patrick Mahomes are going There but if he's talked about his fifth quarterback off the board, you're not hearing those comps I feel really good about Ken Ward, man I feel good more than anything. I mean, yes, he looks good on tape. He has the arm arm strength He he throws at the certain arm angles like Daniel Jeremiah said and I love Daniel

Jeremiah is like I really trust his opinion on the quarterback guys What I love most about Ward is like the opposite of what you expect for guys that have been in and out of the portal Right because in this new day and age where you're going to have a quarterback that's played for two, three, four programs, you're going to have a lot of questions about A, their personality, why they're doing that, what's important to them, and them not being able to be stable in any one place. Cam Ward has also bounced around, but if you watched him, he jumped up at every level, and it felt more like in an effort to prove who he was to everybody else and himself.

And when you look at the success he's had at every single stop, I mean, you can't help but be impressed. This is a guy who will go into a program and has such a confidence in himself that he is the linchpin to turn it around. And don't you think the fact that this is a guy who, he started at incarnate word.

His upside is the fact that he hasn't been coached in a major program. Like, Shador Sanders was being coached by elite position coaches since he was a kid. This was part of Deon's plan to have his NFL quarterback. Cam Ward is like sort of backed into this, where his talent and his elastic arm are so exceptional that like, yeah, his feet, they're really sloppy.

I mean, I remember the first time I talked to Dominique about this, he's like, he does not look like an NFL quarterback in the pocket. And like, the upside of that is he hasn't been coached like an NFL quarterback for his entire career. He ran the wing tee in high school. He had under a thousand passing yards as a senior in high school.

He then set the NCAA passing record. That's unbelievable. And so like, so many quarterback draft there, we go through different things. And as we talk about the evolution of the there, we go through different things and as we talk about the evolution of the league, we go through different things that we value when we're drafting. At one point, the thing that was most valuable or considered most value for a quarterback was his level of whiteness. No longer a deciding factor or doesn't seem

like a deciding factor. Then we went into like accuracy was a thing at one point where you look for that more than anything else. Pocket presence. And now it seems like potential. Like potential is the word that gets you excited. And Ken Ward might be the best prospect for that because of what Charlie mentioned. Like he played in the wing team.

Then he went in incarnate word. And then he goes to Washington State and he gets better and better. And so you can see that he's already on a ridiculous trajectory and coaches see that and get excited. They got so excited last year with Eddie Richardson and he wasn't showing that trajectory. He just looked freaky out there.

They were like, hey, we go figure it out. And with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and guys like that, everyone thinks they're not gonna have Trey Lance. They think they're going to get Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. And you know what? I also think Shador fits in that bucket as well. Now obviously there's conversation around Shador and you're like, oh, he's arrogant.

Yes, he is a confident dude. Like he's the son of Deon Sanders. You know what I mean? I'm short, my dad is short. That's how it works. You kind of get what you're given. But at the same time, he also went and performed at HBCU And I remember when he went to Colorado people weren't like oh, he's gonna go here and crush

He's gonna go in here and be one of the best quarterbacks in the nation And he also did that as well And so there's obviously a lot more factors around Chador and how he ended up at the FCS level But I will say I feel this like similar to him, the Ken Ward, that there's a trajectory there where they're all still climbing. I don't think it's been a plateau. Is there any bias that you need to declare

when talking about, because you got a lot of friends, you're really famous. What is that supposed to mean? I'm just saying that you're watching a different player than I'm watching, if that's your assessment of Shidors San, so I'm trying to figure out, you and Deion homies or what? What the hell is this supposed to mean, man? I'm saying that you established yesterday.

This was your strategy in game two? No! You established yesterday. To start a riff with your teammate? This is what you wanted to do? I take it back. I take it back. You wanted to go Kobe Shack today? That's what you woke up this morning and said? Did you hear me say I take it back?

I don't think you can do that. We're on a public forum. They're all looking at us like, oh no. Is he gonna flip the table? I might, Mike. This is a heavy table. You flipped the table? Yeah.

I flipped this table? The top's not attached though, so you gotta be careful with that table. If you lean on it too much, it'll flip over. If he was here more, he would know that. Be careful. If he was in the gym when I was in the gym. Everyday, early putting up shots.

It is funny though, the discussion around Cam Ward, because it would relatively be, look, we're not talking about Shador as much, because he's consensus second quarterback being taken off. And I reached out to someone in NFL scouting, and I asked him, like, how do you think the draft would go if this year's Cam Ward was plopped in the last year? He said, Caleb still goes number one,

even though he was betrayed by coaching staff, the upside is still there. Then you go Daniels, and this particular person said Cam Ward's three, and I found that surprising ahead of the likes of Drake May and Bo Nix. I understand over Bo Nix, but Drake May, I feel like in terms of measurables, in terms of what an NFL front office feels safer with because

Cam Ward is risky because of the footwork because of his his ability to kind of freestyle a little bit and hold the ball a little bit longer to make things happen I think Drake may would be a safer pick but this guy had Cam Ward around three. So where'd you get that information from? I'm gonna reveal my sources. What is this guy doing, Mike? What is he doing? Yeah, but this is a high ranking scout in the NFL. ["Lose, Get Me Louie"]

That's all I'm doing. I'm just trying to set up a Louie. Just trying to set up a Louie. Just trying to set up a Louie. I like a Louie. OK, all right. I like him. Yeah, man.

The Kam Ward projection is one thing. The Shador Sanders thing is, like, I understand the reason why thing. The Shador Sanders thing is like, I understand the reason why anyone would draft Shador Sanders. So going back and looking at Shador Sanders' film from this year, one thing that I realized is it was a lot more short passes than I remembered. It's a lot more, like in my mind,

and I think that this could happen, is like, I remember Shador throwing big passes in that game against Kansas. And then I went back and watched it on a flight a couple months ago or a couple weeks ago and was like, ooh, doing a lot of screening over there. You're getting that thing out your hands awfully fast, big dog. And then I'm looking forward to make these big, thrilling down-to-field passes that I imagined and they just weren't on the tape that I watched nearly as much.

And that's the thing I think that scares people is they don't want to be in a situation that so many teams find themselves in. Is as much as we want to focus on how important it is to build the team, we wanna look at the Eagles, it's like everybody can do that. You don't have to have a perfect quarterback. One thing that makes it easier for you,

that cleans up a bunch of mistakes, you got holes on defense, you know, it's pretty nice to have a quarterback and two awesome receivers and then you can be competitive in every game. Yeah, I don't think you're wrong. And I think I've watched maybe, again, admittedly, maybe three, like all 22s of Shador. But when I watch him, and the same with Ken Ward, because like Mike said, there's things that pop out that you don't Love like that. He's not developed on there will still be development for both of these guys and like I also have to consider Like where they've been I do not that it's been a bad thing that he's played for his father

But is a different situation like you're not out there on the island I have a son as well And I know yo sometimes I got to just drop them off and let him get out there and just figure it out, otherwise there will be always a crutch there. And I feel like in some of Shador's development, you see that in his film, which I do feel like in the right situation and with the right coaches, he will develop his way out of

because of the ability he has. It's like, when I'm scouting high school receivers, and I see a guy from South Florida, and then I see a guy from Fort Wayne, Indiana, and I see them guy from South Florida, and then I see a guy from Fort Wayne, Indiana, and I see them in their camp tape, and I see one kid who's catching the ball at camp in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and he's just running back to the huddle,

instead of running up field, which is like, hey, you gotta do this, but then I see a guy in South Florida do it, knowing the culture down here, knowing the football culture, knowing what you're exposed to at such an early age, then I'm more like, oh, that's a decision for you not to do that,

versus this guy doesn't have the information. And when I look at your doors, like, downside, I feel like the situation he's in, in some ways, has capped the best version that we could probably expect when we put on the game field. I feel you. The tools, though, that he has or doesn't have, I think is what scares people off.

There was a time when we would be scared away from the toolsy quarterback. That seems to be in vogue now. Everyone wants the toolsy quarterback because they all believe that they can turn him into Josh Allen or turn him into Lamar Jackson, which obviously you're probably not going to, but it's worth the risk to take because if you have a quarterback like that, as we saw particularly in Buffalo, they change that roster around him many different ways. You know where they find themselves every year? In contention.

So that's what it comes down to. And I guess there is really no debate between Shador and Cam. We're creating that. There's nobody, there's no draft analysts out there who's like, hey, one or two, Shador or Cam. What's interesting is we did this exercise with Cam. Where would this year's Cam be drafted

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More sports! This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. You mentioned how your son is a really good athlete and I ran into you at the Junior Olympics because your son's an awesome athlete. He gets that from you? I love to take all the credit. My wife was a really good long jumper,

like a better long jumper than I. Did you run track? I was on the team. I'm like Mike, I was there. I like the accountability. Yeah, I was. No, no, no. It's not Solon Valor.

I was around. I wasn't helping. I was like a high jumper. I'm shocked. Jumping like 5'2". Wasn't getting a lot of points there. I did triple jump. I did long jump.

And I would have these spurts of athleticism where they would, you know. Was your school like a particularly great sports school? Like I'm shocked that you were- Hang on, Billy was a collegiate track star. Right, I know. So I want, it sounds like he was on the track team. It sounds like he played-

I was on the track team. Many events on the track team. I did a lot of them. Yeah, I was there doing every event. But like for me- So you were good, you're just being humble. I'm not being humble, it's that the expectation is, if you didn't know anything about me

What would you say you'd be like? Oh, you were the hundred meter dash guys. I say you were No, I was on the four by one team. I you underachieved in track I didn't figure it out till I got to college. So were you like you were an anchor where you're on a four by one I was the third leg. Whoa Yeah, no, it was I am stunned. It was bad. It was bad I mean I ran the 100 twice in high school. My best, I ran it as a freshman, and I ran a 13.6, which is not great.

That's not, no. As a freshman, you're a freshman. I like your, now you're a better teammate. You're a better teammate than you were earlier. I appreciate that. But in my senior year, I ran 11.33. Okay. Was my, you know, but that's not,

like my son is in seventh grade, and he runs a 12.5 in the hundred. So what about your jumps? You were, you're a great jumper, right? I was solid, I jumped 20 feet once. Your son had practice yet? Has he what? Has he had practice yet for this year?

Like today? Yeah, I mean like no. No, today, today. It was a weird way of asking. It was a weird way, okay yeah. No, he's had practice in the jumps. The reason why it's a weird way of asking, the reason why it's a weird way of asking. It was a weird way, okay, yeah. No, he's had practice in the jumps. The reason why it's a weird way of asking, the reason why it's a weird way of asking

is because for the last two minutes, just talking about track and talk about sons. Well, hold on. I talked to Hawk earlier in the day. You're trying to have breakfast now? And Hawk had a great time at his son's practice yesterday. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had practice yesterday.

Okay, you were trying to tee me up. I didn't want to talk about it. It's not a good thing. So now I don't feel like you're a good teammate anymore. All alright, so I'm pretty sure I ruptured a disc in my back Trying to triple jump yesterday at my son's practice And that's what we're trying to the story We're trying to get to because I didn't even get through the triple jump and if for those that don't know triple jump is three Jumps you could probably figure that out

The first one is kind of a skip and then you jump to to the next. So you jump, land on the same foot, jump to the next foot, and then into the pit. So I jumped, I just didn't warm up. I was like, yo, I did this in high school. I was trying to give an example. I jumped, and I was like too far, like from the board that I jumped from. I'm like, let me just shut this down right now.

Let me just abort. You were too athletic? Is that what you were trying to allude to? It felt that way. She was the best seventh grader out there. That's the look-a-me-Louie situation. Those seventh graders... Look at me move.

...what Miami lost to BYU. We were too fast. I was like, yo, this is the board y'all jumped from? So anyway, I tried to shut it down on an abort mission, and that's where it all went downhill because that's a lot harder than it looked. The landing is always the hard part. I just came down really hard, so much that it shot a pain up my back and my head kinda just went and rattled things and I immediately got a headache

and now I'm pretty sure I need to go to a chiropractor. I recognize that urge as a former athlete myself. Whenever I'm around somebody doing sports stuff, something in me is like, hey, just go ahead and get a little shot. Just go a little something, give them a little run, a little crossover, but it's dangerous because I have so many friends.

We're at the age, we're at Achilles popping age. Like early 40s, it's when they start popping. I had two friends poppin' in the last year. Achilles just out here poppin'. I went skiing and that's all I was concerned about. Well, my son's 12 year old who really likes to ski and 12 year old boys, they make terrible decisions. And so I was really concerned about him

and my friend's son who's six was also a boy who makes terrible decisions. They just try to skate around into ridiculous things or ski around and up mountains and stuff. So I was worried about that. And also, popping something. I mean, so I was worried about that. And also, Tearing your achilles. Yeah, popping something.

I mean, everything gets brittle at this age. I was sore as shit, but you know what? I ain't popped nothing, so it was a win. Well, I don't ever like, and we talked about this, I know, I hear these stories, right? Everyone knows, when you get a certain age, don't do certain things, you will get hurt. Like, you gotta just pass on it. But the urge, Yeah, it's in there, it never goes away. It's in there, and also, a certain age, don't do certain things, you will get hurt, like you gotta just pass on it.

But the urge, Yeah, it's in there, it never goes away. It's in there, and also it's like the fear is, the thing is never as pronounced as the stories that people tell. Like I knew I shouldn't have did it. So yesterday I was like, there was like a little piece that was like don't jump.

But it didn't quite feel as dangerous as it does in the moment, the way my back is feeling. Were you trying to show off for the seventh graders? Like why couldn't you just go like 70% speed? It was like, there's like a line, right? Cause it was like, oh, let me, let me dial it back. And then I don't make the pit.

Well, yeah. And that's like the, so my going hard was not in an effort to show off. It was like, you gotta hit a bare minimum to not look like you're old. I get it. Cause like what you were telling us is like a seventh grader could beat you as a like you're old. I get it, because what you were telling us is a seventh grader could beat you as a freshman in a race.

You get it. Not in jumping, though. So now you don't want to have the seventh grader be like, I'm probably closer to what I was as a freshman in high school than I was as a senior in the moment. Billy, I've seen you race before, where you got it in you two, where you walk around, you say that.

But somebody calls you out, they look at you funny, you're like, hey, let me just. Line it up. Y'all must have forgot. Yeah, you know what I don't do? Cause you're talking about being all trampoline parks. Not a thought in my mind. Those are safe, those aren't safe.

What? Whoa, they're safe for like age appropriate attendees. Like I've gone like two or three times and I've left pretty unscathed and I feel like I've had to retire from those. Like I don't even wanna go back. When my kids are of the age of going to them, I know I'm gonna go down that path.

I'm like, I can back flip. And then that's when I end up, you know, not walking anymore. What events did you do in college, Billy? I just did pole vault. That's pretty sick. Yeah, but I'm slow is the thing. Like that's the problem.

You had to be faster for pole vault. Aren't you the fastest person on the show, right? Well, no, Chris, that's, there's a misconception there. Chris beat me in the last race. Now, that was a long time ago. Now that was a long time ago, so I'm not going to be talked into racing down the street. But here's the thing. So I'm going out on top. So Chris, Chris beat me on the last race, but like, if we look at the tape, the finish line changed and I'm a notoriously bad starter also. Like I can catch up to people, but I have a bad first step. I don't have a good jump off the line.

I'm not encouraging anybody to race as I talk about how we're all at the age of popping Achilles. I swear to God I'll do it. I swear I can so easily be talking to something athletic. I know that feeling Be Dominique we know that We don't need to race we did a combine we did come on you're not talking me into popping nothing out here today I jogged yesterday

Trying to catch Billy here. I did watch Dominique jog as a Uber to home. It's alright Dominique, you're scared to race Hawkins. It's all good. If you give me two months to train, I feel like I can pop a really good 100 meter dash time. If you give me two months, I probably will still sit here and be scared to race Hawk, because I'm not scared of losing to Hawk, unless y'all putting some money on the line.

I'm scared of what's gonna happen to my bones, joints, and ligges. I ain't here to pop no ligges. When did this happen to you? Because I thought I heard stories of you racing people in alleys in Washington at the office. Yeah, that happened. I gotta fight, I gotta fight the urge.

So when I, at my son's flag football game, my son had a good game, and I told my parents about it on the way home, and I've been sending my parents clips of him, and my parents was like, I think he's better than you. Oh. If y'all don't get the F out of here, I would've gave that kid,

and that's the feeling that comes into me when I'm around people doing athletic things or people talking about sports things. It's like, man, why don't y'all stop with this foolishness? Like, I don't, I get that. Let me show you what time, have you forgot what I was in my prime? And that's what also keeps me.

My son ain't compared to me. I mean, he's right. One reveal. But I ride on that fool. Dominique did lose a three cone drill to former Levitard show producer Old Money Charlie. That's a bald face lie. In a hallway, in an ABC hallway,

there were cones put out. He looks like he's telling the truth. There were cones! Okay, bald face lie. I have a photo. Bald face lie. What happened? The photo of a race is crazy.

So it is a video, and then there is a freeze frame of the crossing of the finish line. Were you guys going at the same time? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I thought it was like you went then he went and you both timed it. No, no, no. It's not this Charlie. It's a different Charlie. It's a fast Charlie. Wait, you have the video of this? So theoretically we can watch the video. We can make our own determination of who won. But you're saying you will no longer engage in athletic. Absolutely not. It was that, that was the same year

where I had a producer at what was then called the undefeated now Anscape who said that he could score a point on me in one-on-one basketball. No it wasn't Tony. It was Monis in,, it wasn't Monis This is important. Yeah really down into it was Yes, undefeated producer Tony. That was our Tony. It wasn't your Tony. It was another score one point against you That doesn't seem that hard starts see this is how it starts. This is that type of disrespect

Is that one point well well tell this, by accident it could happen. I could just throw it over my head. Not me, I wouldn't. The thing that, the fact of the matter is, he was taller than me too, and he was like, I mean I'll score one, and I was like, no you won't. I'll score 11 before you score one. And I was trying to explain to him the difference,

you're not faster than me, you're not stronger than me, you're not quicker than me. You will not stronger than me, you're not quicker than me. You will not get a good shot. And like I'm not a great basketball player, but you're not gonna get a good shot. You're gonna have to hit a bad shot before I hit 11 shots. And that's, yeah, I beat him 11 to zero. Yeah, that sounds about right.

And he was like, I play basketball every day. And I was like, I don't, but what you have to understand is. I'm a lunatic. Yeah. What does not Tony look like, just out of curiosity? Like regular Tony. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, I mean Tony wouldn't get a bucket on me either. Don't say that when he's around. He'll show you his game tape over and over again. I have a, I might have a list for later in the week when Tony's here of the top five players that I think Tony thinks he's better than a basketball can beat in one-on-one, but he won't say it loud. Is Tony a good basketball player?

He thinks so. If you ask him. Did he try out for FIU? That was football, he tried to be a quarterback, but they didn't let him use the football. So it was like, shadow passes. Who tries to walk on as a quarterback who's not a quarterback, that's crazy.

He probably could've did some H back though. He's got never ending confidence. Yeah, he is the MVP of like- That's the number one thing you need as an athlete. The well talent too. He's got never-ending confidence. Yeah Number one thing you need is an athlete well talent to Does he yeah, I know he's a basketball I mean he's not he's not a pro by any stretch against 65 year old Ron McGill. Yeah, yeah, does he win? I mean, I saw he shared on Instagram like an MVP of like the Tuesday night When I mean I saw he shared on Instagram like an MVP of like the Tuesday night

Basketball player here by fire white march. Yeah, I know that that I know that's not a great Brad That's a professional athletes. I just want to get him out there and see what he's made of I don't I'm not saying I'm better than him or I could beat him You could he be just Williams and want to get him out there and see what he's made of. I'm not saying I'm better than him or I could beat him. Could he beat Steve Williams in basketball? I just wanna get him out there. Could he whoop Steve Williams' ass is the question that Neek is really wondering with all of this. That's all I wanna know.

Can you fight Steve? Can you fight? I mean, I heard the accent. I was like, he'd probably play a rugby. I bet he's a tough guy. See if I can get him into some tough guy talk. Eh, probably not. We gotta get Tony out here to defend himself.

Yeah, I think Tony can't. Uh oh. Oh, this is the picture. Here we go. Let's go to it. Who is falling? That's me falling. Oh no. Zooming on the foot though here. You just saved your Achilles by releasing that thing.

What kind of shoes are that? Are you wearing like early 2000's seep patterns? No, I think they were. Are those horse huffs or what? Why are they that shape? Octagon at the end of the race while you were falling backwards We did the three cone drill and I was ahead by so much I decided to backpedal and the one thing that I'm doing at this age is You were paid millions of dollars to do? That was years ago too.

That's like seven years ago, right? Oh, Hawk points it out accurately. You'd think that'd be muscle memory for a former corner. You think of all the parts of the race to be like, I'm gonna go into the thing that someone literally made me a millionaire to be really good at, and that's where it all fell apart. Yep, the back pedal.

That's crazy. The overconfident back pedal cost me the win. I still think I won. Charlie. Those clogs? What was that? What kind of shoe? What year was it?

And we can figure it out. Is it like those Steve Madden, Coling shoes? That one's very popular. Like the old six popular. I'll tell you what it was. It's when Nike and Cole Hawn merged. And so I had the access to all the spending of the Cole Hawn merged. And so I had. You had the access to all the spending of the Cole Hawn.

And Nike, I had a lot of Nike bucks from being a Nike athlete. And I was like, all right. Oh, what a time. Yeah, so that's what it was. They were leftover Cole Hawn Nikes. It was like, hey. And that was before we all just wore.

Athletic dress shoes, man, I love it. It was before we just all wore tennis shoes at all times. Now it was like those were the most comfortable type of work shoes you could wear back in, whenever that was. That completely makes sense. I told you guys that we're gonna get to my racist cat. So I didn't know.

I'm gonna take it back, he's not racist. His name's Lamar, he's not racist. Sounds like you're. He just has a healthy trepidation of white folk. Okay. So we went to Aspen and while we were away, one of my wife's friends from college asked to stay at our house while they did some work at her house.

So we were like, sure, fine, go ahead, you can stay there. She's white, her husband's white, their kid's white. They get there and they love cats and the cat's there. And they called and it was like, we haven't seen the cat all day. They called the next day, we haven't seen the cat all day. Four days, they say, we haven't seen the cat. So we're all kinda nervous, like,

oh, they must've let him out by mistake while they were coming in. How big's your house? I mean, it's a house. Come on, man. You see these cats can hide, man. You know how much Cohans cost? Plus Nike, I mean. Are you crazy?

Go look up the cost of Cohans in 2011. And that will tell you how big his house is. It's called Foxworth Manor. It's not called that at all. It's, you know how sneaky cats are. They can hide. What's the name of the cat, just for context? Lamar.

Lamar. Oh, that's right, you said that. Steve Martin. I'm gonna leave. Steve Martin, no, no, no, no, no, you good, you good? Everybody makes mistakes, stay, stay. Dan would have sent you away, but we're not gonna do Martin. No, no, no, no, you good, you good? Everybody makes mistakes, stay, stay! Dan would've sent you away, but we're not gonna do that. Yeah, no, no, we're inclusive around here.

True team leaders here. You're gonna be better in the end of this show for that. So we're all worried, and my wife and I are like, man, what are we gonna do? The kids are gonna be so upset. The cat's lost, probably dead somewhere. We get home flying, it was like, he could be dead in the house, it just don't stink yet.

Like, I don't know, or he ran out into the woods. So we get home at like midnight from flying and we walk in the house and the first thing my son does is call for Lamar. Lamar! He doesn't know, we didn't tell him. He just like excited to get back to see his pet. And so my wife and I look at each other like,

oh, cringing like, oh, we just gonna try to go to bed tonight and talk about it in the morning. He's Lamar, meow. The cat's in the house for four days. They're in the house and he's hiding and that's the only conclusion we came to. He didn't trust him.

He was like, I don't know what y'all doing here. Are you guys colonizing? Has he ever seen white people? Yeah, yeah, I mean. He spent his whole life in your house. Yeah, he's we got him from white people, okay After that that might those might have been the last do we know how? Those white people treated it well. We don't know that might be it. Does he think it was those same white people? This sounds like just cat behavior. Like cats are weird. For a black guy, man, this is his first cat ever. I can almost guarantee you he's never had a cat before this. Cats are weird, man. Like, it's the first cat.

Just what they do. They know the voices of the people they care about and if it's not one of those voices, they're good. So the cat eat, like just sneak out and eat like when they weren't paying attention? That's what happened. But the food was disappearing but they were still worried about the cat? Who's eating this food? No, the husband, so it was, we put out enough food so it was too much for them to like tell the difference. But the husband said that he would hear stuff

and he just felt like he was there but he just chucked it up to like maybe creaking in the house late at night. And the cat was just hiding, came out, got his food, would do his business at night while they were sleeping and then go back to whatever corner in the house he was hiding. You know what I think it is?

What is it? Because this is what I would do if I had to stay over your house because something was going on in my house and your cat was there. I admittedly am not a cat person. Yeah. I would have locked your cat into a room

the entire time you were gone. But you wouldn't have also told me he was person. I would have locked your cat into a room the entire time you were gone. But you wouldn't have also told me he was missing. I would have, just in case. You know, maybe you have security something that would have seen some portion or something would have happened or went wrong in that time. I'd have been like, oh, he was in that closet the whole time.

We must have shut. So then right before you come back, you let it out. And then it's voila voila racist cat with actuality We not not capped we locked the lock your cat away because I'm not gonna be in your house for four days Scared for my life because I don't know if your cats gonna claw my eyeballs out. I would enjoy this mansion By myself. I'm not a cat person either I've become a cat person but the kids wanted a pet and my wife is allergic So we consider getting a hypoallergenic dog,

but kids at this age, it's enough work. You know what I'm not doing? Add another heartbeat to the house that I have to be responsible for. So you get a cat, cats take care of their own business. You don't have to deal with too many cats like that. When you say you've become a cat person, you just pet it on the head now a little bit?

No, I don't even do that. I was gonna say that. He just owns a cat, so he's a cat person. I mean, I've become a cat person, you just pet it on the head now a little bit? No, I don't even do that. I was gonna say that. He just owns a cat, so he's a cat person. He has not tortured the cat, which makes him a cat person. I clean the litter box. He likes me the most, I guess probably because I'm the only one that cleans the litter box

and feeds him and do those sorts of things, give him medicine when he needs it. I do those things. Give him space. That's probably what he likes more than anything. He follows me around. The funny thing is he doesn't like to be pet. So he follows me around and sits wherever I'm sitting.

And if I ever try to reach over to me, he's like. That's why y'all cool, bro. Y'all just lockin' us off. I mean, would you like if the cat just starts petting you? Like, what are you touching me for? I don't like it when cats purr. What? Are you a cat person?

You have cats? My parents have a cat. Anybody else here have cats? I don't like it when it purrs. Like, what's he really thinking? What's he don't think he's happy. It's just really about he wants me to think he's happy. He's not happy I'm not a cat person. I've never had I'm not I shouldn't say I'm not a cat person I've never had a cat I don't have dogs either. I got a person. I'm not a pet person

Oh you you got to realize dogs in my community. Yeah, it was a scary thing man because it wasn't like this Breaking in and fell news from the breakers Adam Schefter has sent out a good teammate NFL's kickoff proposal was separated into two votes today one that passed one that was Tabled number one the football now moves to the 35 after a touchback that passed Number two no vote at this time on the onside kick modification. It will pick back up at the main meeting. So why ever return a kick? Yeah, the justification for moving it back

is they're trying to get, or moving it up. Are they trying to get kickoffs out of the game altogether? I don't understand, like I feel like the XFL kickoff, it worked in terms of having some returns back for touchdown. We saw a spike in that. We saw that start with week one. The, where people get confused with is with the onside kick because, okay, well, I hate having to announce it.

Well, everybody's down there. You can't onside kick at 35 yards. The onside, I think at some point, they'll move the onside kick to the flag football version of onside kick, which is they, you get a fourth and 20. Yeah, I love that. Why can't we go back to the- Another rule from the XFL. Why can't we go punt no newie on them you guys aren't hip to put no newie

I don't even know what that means no idea. I let him know though come on. This is thanks Billy. I Got you up. This is recess football like when you're playing recess. There's no kicker, so you throw it Oh throw offs yeah like punt no you got to yell, nooie cuz like as this is the last one where you know no newie. There's no we're not doing this over again It's one and done, baby. We're getting just been like a house rule for you I've seen it in movies man. I know you haven't I mean granted I produced a movie and it was it was a story of my life specifically It was a story of my life, specifically. Uh. Look at me, Nui. Yeah. That was good.

It was a lie, but we can go with that. Yeah, putting on Nui is not a thing that I ever participated in. Come on. I mean, we do throw-offs. So what type of, like, losers were you playing with? Do you say it mid-throw? What do you mean?

No Nui? Yes, literally. I guess my is. Put no Nui. Throw. Who was calling for Nuis? Like, when we would do throw-offs you threw it off There was never a reason you call a penalty illegal throw. I never heard someone say newie There's no way you were playing recess football without knowing putting a new place in 500

What's that? We like throw it up like 100 and like 100, and then you gotta get to 500, I think, to become the thrower. No, that's a different game. I've never heard of that. No, the kids call it, or at least my sons. Jackpot is what I'm being told my game is called. My sons' friends call it Moss, where they just all stand in a circle,

and you throw the sand together. Oh, that is a good name for head top. And you throw it up over there, and they're like, you wanna play Moss? Like, no, I don't wanna play Moss with you, people who are a foot shorter than me. What are we doing here? Yeah, they call it head top. Okay. I thought I got a different name We don't know we we call it no new where I grew up. Yeah, I'm introduced no new

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